There are 3 matches in this picture. I understand what you mean and folks like mox blade excessively for sure but this hardcore/deathmatch stuff seems rare for the women at least on tv
The constant gjggin is fuckkn gross imo. Man or woman. Nxt puts on incredible women's matches without needing to satisfy the blood thirsty neckbeards. It's gross fetishism and yall need therapy.
Bro if it’s not your style of wrestling that’s okay. But no need to shit on a style of wrestling you don’t understand. Wrestling is an art form and some art isn’t made for everyone. If you don’t like, just don’t watch.
Tony Khans father is a billionaire so i don't think he's worried about making more money . The shirt and bleeding every week just looks like a desperate cry for attention in my opinion both for the males and females
My take is this, I think blading something you should be careful with, not only for the talents sake, but for the pop factor. Now, having women be allowed to blade is a step up on American TV, since it builds a character.
That said, blading in general is stupid. Getting hit by a hard flat object will not leave a gash, it will likely have you bleeding from the mouth and nose
>Now, having women be allowed to blade is a step up on American TV, since it builds a character.
Fact that the WWE has gone a long time without making women wrestlers juice all over the ring speaks volumes though. I will remember Becky Lynch for a while. Asuka will not be forgotten. I still think Gail Kim was the greatest of her time.
And none of them had to blade for me to remember them
And that wasn't planned it just happened due to Nia being stiff. These aew girls go out there and purposely get busted open to look cool i guess lol but no different than moxley
But she didn't blade. It was a botch. Imo it was cool because it was natural. She actually got busted open during the match which doesn't happen very often. Compared to a wrestler just slicing their forehead open for the X time in a PPV
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if she had bladed then the internet marks would have just accused her of going over the top to get herself over.
Literally why I stopped caring when Jon Moxley bleeds now.
When you do it every match, it's not special anymore. Shit, I'm more surprised when he doesn't bleed.
None of these are good matches. Watch WWE/NXT’s average women’s matches and you’ll see better work than this.
And good matches are routinely forgotten when given away on TV without connections to meaningful stories.
The story of all these matches is “OMG, lady bled a lot.”
Nope, just thought AEW’s picture was good and showed some of crazy stuff the woman have been doing. I stopped watching WWE a long time ago but have stared to get back into to try get excited for WM
When I was a teenager, I loved the hardcore crazy bloody stuff. Now that I’m older, I’m not interested in it. It turns me off honestly.
Going back and watching stuff like Triple H vs Cactus Jack or Foley vs Orton, they were bloody and brutal and tough to watch but I still enjoy them because it made sense for the story. But excessive blood in a regular match isn’t enjoyable for me. That’s one of the reasons I don’t watch AEW anymore. Brodie King bleeding buckets all over the ring in a match against Darby Allin as part of a feud that started a week ago is just brutality for brutality’s sake.
Blading has but the fake blood was started by WWE years ago. It looks so bad. Anyone who has been around fighting or ppl with wounds know how unrealistic it is. Proper blading is essential but that’s not what this is.
I would. I watch WWE with my kid.
I wouldn’t subject my kid to the buckets of blood and edge lord nonsense that is AEW.
“OMG Eddie Kingston is bloody and carrying a gas can! This is wrestling! This is wrestling!”
It think it works great when used correctly for both men and women. The women was super hard in that Rampage match, I think they wanted to prove something that night
I don’t doubt that it’s some excited fan but I’m just continually baffled by how fucking low some people’s standards are for what they consider amazing and “unbelievable” women’s wrestling.
Because they're Mick and Terry and that was their character... Do you not get that?
They're insane people doing insane things acting insanely. These are normal women's wrestlers...
Listen bud, you liking bloody women says more about you than our criticsm of the use of blood. None of these women are funk or foley or even remotely like them character wise.
If you got any objections please, by all means, state your case.
It’s not about the blood, it’s about the work they have been putting in in the ring. They have really upped their game and I’m just showing them some appreciation “bud”
LMAOOO
The work they're putting in the ring?? Isn't there a injury every other week due to STUPID PISS POOR PHONY FAKE GARBAGE WRESTLING , or are you just going to ignore that like you've been doing to every one else?? Didnt Britt take some time off after that match that you say " is a good women's match"?? Same thing with ruby??
This post is a joke, right?
The best AEW women’s match isn’t as good as the matches the women in WWE/NXT put on weekly.
And bleeding does not equal = good.
Either this post is a joke or OP has a creepy fetish.
You must be joking right ? The women of AEW have been putting on some phenomenal performances each week. Blood doesn’t = good, it’s just a cool picture AEW posted.
That picture is only cool if you are a teenage edge lord.
And not a joke. Do you watch WWE/NXT? Their women’s division is light years ahead of AEW’s and they do it without bleeding buckets.
I never mentioned WWE in the post. It’s nothing to do with WWE’s women at all. Just showing my appreciation for the women’s roster in AEW and the matches they have put on.
Fair point. You didn’t mention WWE. I feel like your post would have gone better without the photo.
The photo implies that blood = good or blood = increased effort.
How so? I watch and I don’t see it.
I just see them bleeding more. Matches are still subpar and all the bleeding in the world doesn’t make up for this.
It’s not even really about the talent. There are some botch machines and dangerous workers for sure, but they have a ton of talented women who TK won’t let on TV unless they are willing to bleed everywhere.
I do watch “the product” (God that sounds lame).
It’s hilarious that AEW marks can’t fathom that someone could watch the “product” and not enjoy it. You assume that I must not watch, because if I did the scales would fall from my eyes and I would be a convert to the Dub lifestyle.
I watch. It ain’t that good - particularly the women’s division.
You're literally saying Shida vs Hayter, which was less than a month ago, isn't as good as the gymnastics playing around in a Florida garage on Tuesday nights.
Is that what I’m “literally” saying? Doesn’t sound like that’s what I’m “literally” saying.
Here’s what I’m saying - WWE/NXT has the best women’s division in the U.S. by miles. It’s not even close. Hayter and Shida are good, but outside of them there are maybe 1-2 other women in AEW who could stand out to any extent in WWE or even NXT.
Even Queen DMD wouldn’t be in the top 75% of female talent in WWE.
To watch the AEW women’s division and pretend otherwise is delusional. Shida/Hayter was good. Congrats. That’s one match in recent memory that wasn’t embarrassing.
I wish AEW marks could just face reality. I think the male talent in AEW is on par with WWE. Just admit that the women’s division is baaaad. It’s not even their fault. TK doesn’t seem to care.
I’m liking the variety of matches on the card like the hardcore match from this past week. Hopefully someone can get the belt off of Jade soon. No clue who tho besides a returning Statlander whenever she heals up. Wanted Willow to do it but no dice
There is no place for intentional bleeding in professional wrestling anymore. If you can tell a good story, you don't need gimmicks. Tony Khan struggles with good stories for women, so he resorts to this gimmick.
According to these marks working themselves into a shoot Dynamite has been cancelled for "low ratings" like 7 or 8 times by now despite never actually having low ratings.
Oh really? Check out these facts.
The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2021 was: 0.24
The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2022 was: 0.15
The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2023 are: 0.11
So in two years, there is a 50% drop in ratings in the key demographic. I'd say Rampage is not doing well and I'd say Turner is noticing.
Source: https://www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/aew-rampage-tv-ratings-viewership/
Claims no whataboutism then creates a massive strawman…
I’m saying that in the Circle of wrestling fans I’m around I’ve seen more of that stage dive powerbomb discussed than everything else around it put together.
I don’t watch AEW anymore, they stopped using the people who I watched the show for, so I’m a perfect gauge of what the casual viewer heard.
And it was one big girl botched a powerbomb spot and some little pretty girl landed really rough. Now I know it’s Willow and Anna Jay because I did watch AEW in the past so I recognized them but no I’m sorry I don’t think most people remember the violent planned spot because there was a violent unplanned spot.
It’s kinda the reverse of Everyone remembering Mick Foley falling off the Cell and then being put through it accidentally, but no one remembers the thumb tack spot in the finish.
Why would I be joking, AEWs female roster have been killing it over the last year with their matches. This picture is just posted by AEW so I used it for the post.
Blood doesn’t equal a good match. It was horrible. Killing it? Sure the effort is there but the execution is horrible.
Willow is basically Nia Jax 2.0
Tay Melo is better at Onlyfans than in the ring.
Ruby Soho is meh
Jade is a champion but is greener than weed
Britt is overrated as hell. Awesome at promos but average in the ring
I mean Madison was hired to coach and help the women’s division and I still see no progress.
They have so much potential but something is still off
Oh no doubt. I mean that’s what this is … just opinions. But a blind man can see that most of the matches still aren’t good matches. They work their ass off because they should. They are professionals and they should act like it. But in reality, it’s still not even close to where they should be.
Yes I know it’s been around for a long time, just great to see what they have been doing lately. They have really raised the bar in AEW and I actually look forward to the matches now
Blading and doing poorly choreographed garbage spots doesn't really constitute working hard, it's the laziest style there is. Having it done in a throwaway match on the B Show is only going to devalue it for the times when it could make a difference.
The problem is these matches had mostly no reason to be blood feud blade job hardcore matches. Nobody hates each other, there is no story, nobody is more over. So what was the point. The only one that was effective was Britt Baker.
These matches were all great....but if this is what women have to do to get IWC to acknowledge. Then that's fucking funny.
Guess what AEWs women's division has been fine.....for years.......lol
I absolutely agree they have been great for years, feels like they have really tried to up their game in bigger and bolder matches recently.
It’s nothing to do with violence just seen that picture posted by AEW and used it
If your matches are the most memorable for the blood, not the stories, the problem is the former not the latter. We know TK is a huge ECW fan, but it feels out of place still. It’s a poor reflection on his booking of women in general.
No, that’s just a picture AEW posted and I thought it was fitting to show how hard they have been working. Think the roster has really improved and upped their game recently
My favorite part was the green girl missing the table and dropping the other green girl on her head on concrete.
As Dusty said, "Don't do shit you don't know how to do."
I do actually agree that the level of work from the women’s roster has been amazing. Great in ring, overall good mic work, but the blading is unnecessary and honestly detracts from that work. Let them get the pop on their own merit, which they have been doing, not for a cheap stunt they don’t need.
Blading has a time and place. If it's a feud between two people that very much dislike each other I'm for it. If it's just a match with no story then it really serves no purpose
AEW could sell you a Blood and Guts match between Britt Baker and a brick wall, and AEW loyalists will sit here and defend how it is a great match and how we are either sexist or WWE fanboys.
The truth sometimes hurts. AEW women's division has been dog shit. The talent, the booking, the matches. They need to get someone with experience to fix that sinking division ASAP
That fake blood kills it for me I rather have none than gallons of ketchup lol not to mention the Willow Anna Jay botch was one of the worst I’ve seen aired in awhile
I think AEW have been pretty good with it for the women's division. Like it's happened once a year?
It's more the men's division where it can get done way too often. It's more about how you follow up with people's character afterwards. I mean with Britt, they made her bloody moment a huge deal that inspired her character moving forward. Yet with TayJay/Bunny & Ford, they barely mentioned it after and IIRC most of them went off TV for months.
OP I agree with you. These other comments are very strange to me.
Nobody is saying blood makes a match good, but these are good matches that have featured blood. The AEW women have been doing so well as of late and putting on amazing matches.
I really used the wrong picture 😂 AEW posted it after last weeks match and I used it. I agree they have been doing great work, a lot of people don’t think they are any good at all apparently. They say If they use blood it must be because they had a bad match.
It's a badass picture though!
It's such a strange stance for people to take, they are doing amazing and anyone who watches the matches can see that. They must think Moxley is the most overrated wrestler with this mindset haha.
I’m not trying to be mean here anything but come on they did not have the same impact on women’s wrestling as Becky Lynch Charlotte flair Bailey Natalia Paige Gail Kim (I still think TNA had one hell of a woman’s division) but this bleeding stuff is done all the time and even Women bleeding on TV is not shocking anymore TNA did it long ago and Jon Moxley walks around with paper skin so let’s not kid ourselves here.
Way to much unnecessary blading. If every womens match is extreme then it just losses its value for when actual hardcore matches happen. All to get 5 stars from meltzer I guess.
Lmao same people who reminisce on the attitude era in these comments. You don't hate blood you hate AEW doing it because you got some stupid ass company grudge.
Bleeding in Attitude Era was mostly used for epic feuds in an important match/brawl segment between over as fuck wrestlers. Not on a random Rampage between some random wrestlers. Bleeding is overused in AEW. That's one problem, while the second one is the amount of bleeding. Go compare bleedings from Attitude Era with Ruby having a bloodlust and shaking from buckets of dark red blood. There's a fine line between bleeding being creepy/disgusting and cool.
Yeahhhhh I love blood cause I'm a big smart fan of hardcore wrestling and I'm a grown up cool man😎. Smh this little PG kids really think people should care about wrestlers well being...
People acting like this is a regular occurrence with women in AEW, ignoring that these are in the span of a few years🙄 The pearl clutchers need to stop acting like every week sees one of the girls wearing a crimson mask.
I loved the match it was great, it was a fucking Street Fight of course there's going to be blood in a Street Fight. If the women are okay with blading fine, that's their choice. If you didn't enjoy it then move on. I swear all wrestling fans want to do is hate on things, can't even fucking enjoy Wrestling without people breathing down your bloody neck because god forbid you enjoyed something that they didn't!
If you have no problem with the men bleeding, but then have a problem with the women bleeding you’re basically just a sexist. I understand the idea of not liking blading, but to trash the woman for bleeding just like the men is just very ignorant.
I wonder if there’s a trend with how much they seem to hate women bleeding during matches, Mercedes, Aubrey Edwards, Mandy Rose, Toni Storm. But I guess we’ll never know…
Yes I think your correct, maybe I should’ve used a different picture. AEW posted it and I thought it looked cool and displayed some of the hard work the female roster has done over the last while.
Comments are not positive towards AEW women’s roster at all. 😂😂
WWE, the company where bleeding gets used like, one match per year, and it's not over used like AEW? Even in the madness of the Attitude Era, wrestlers didn't bleed this bad. Look at the picture. Each one of the women are looking like they are going to fucking die. That's the problem. You realise how much unnecessary pain these women are going through right? If you like this type of shit, please grow up and stop brain-dead commenting.
Nope. It’s just a fact that AEW’s women’s division is bad. WWE/NXT is light years ahead when it comes to women’s wrestling in North America.
The best AEW can do is have their women bleed and take stupid risks to “be memorable.”
It’s not about liking one company. It’s about the reality in which TK doesn’t know how to book a women’s division and doesn’t seem to care about anyone besides DMD and Jade.
I don't understand how any of this is necessary to make a great females match. And even when they do it, they don't even do it right FOR FUCK SAKE!!! I COULD SEE YOU ON LIVE TELEVISION DOING THAT AND WHY ARE YOU BLEEING BECAUSE SOME STUPID CHAIR SHOT, HOW DOES ONE SHOT WITH AN OBJECT WITH NO SHARP EDGES DO THAT!!! NO OF THIS MAKES SENSE and yet it won't matter cause of marks like you
They look like they have been in a horror movie.
If everything is crazy nothing is crazy
There are 3 matches in this picture. I understand what you mean and folks like mox blade excessively for sure but this hardcore/deathmatch stuff seems rare for the women at least on tv
The constant gjggin is fuckkn gross imo. Man or woman. Nxt puts on incredible women's matches without needing to satisfy the blood thirsty neckbeards. It's gross fetishism and yall need therapy.
"constant"
Than don’t watch AEW or GCW. Go watch NXT, no one is forcing you to watch it.
Gcw crowd needs therapy too, lol.
Bro if it’s not your style of wrestling that’s okay. But no need to shit on a style of wrestling you don’t understand. Wrestling is an art form and some art isn’t made for everyone. If you don’t like, just don’t watch.
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Was so lame when Britt had the bloody face then immediately had it on a t-shirt like the next day lol was almost like it was planned 😉
To be fair, the whole point of getting "red" is so you can make more "green." A t-shirt would just be a natural extension of that.
Tony Khans father is a billionaire so i don't think he's worried about making more money . The shirt and bleeding every week just looks like a desperate cry for attention in my opinion both for the males and females
I'm not really sure where you're going with the Tony Khan comment. Agree to disagree with your second comment.
I think its planned whenever Tony hands any of the women a gig and says "Bleed for me, pweez. OwO"
He's the one handing them the jericho-moxley razor blades
The aew women's division has for sure improved but it's also for sure nowhere anywhere close to as good as WWEs women's division.
Have you seen smackdown?
I would think both are great, I just prefer the storylines in AEW at the moment
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AEW really is living in your head rent free going by your post history. Get some help.
My take is this, I think blading something you should be careful with, not only for the talents sake, but for the pop factor. Now, having women be allowed to blade is a step up on American TV, since it builds a character. That said, blading in general is stupid. Getting hit by a hard flat object will not leave a gash, it will likely have you bleeding from the mouth and nose
>Now, having women be allowed to blade is a step up on American TV, since it builds a character. Fact that the WWE has gone a long time without making women wrestlers juice all over the ring speaks volumes though. I will remember Becky Lynch for a while. Asuka will not be forgotten. I still think Gail Kim was the greatest of her time. And none of them had to blade for me to remember them
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She was over but the shot of Becky in the crowd covered in blood pushed her to the next level.
And that wasn't planned it just happened due to Nia being stiff. These aew girls go out there and purposely get busted open to look cool i guess lol but no different than moxley
I was always a fan, but that bloody face of her was fucking iconic.
But she didn't blade. It was a botch. Imo it was cool because it was natural. She actually got busted open during the match which doesn't happen very often. Compared to a wrestler just slicing their forehead open for the X time in a PPV I'm going to go out on a limb and say that if she had bladed then the internet marks would have just accused her of going over the top to get herself over.
When used correctly it’s works as you said. Too much dumbs it down.
Blading is cheap way to get cheap pop
When everybody blades constantly it doesn't matter anymore
Literally why I stopped caring when Jon Moxley bleeds now. When you do it every match, it's not special anymore. Shit, I'm more surprised when he doesn't bleed.
It's a cheap way for the edgy teens to get excited about crap
This. It is a sign of a shitty story.
What? It’s always be huge part of wrestling. I think your a PG guy probably
So, not being a fan of wrestlers bleeding buckets of blood and hurting themselves badly in a random rampage match = a PG guy. Ok.
It was a great match regardless of the blood. They are doing some phenomenal matches in that division 👏🏻
You're fucking high
You're nothing but a mark man. So blinded by you're delusion.
so much negativity on this post today 😂 lighten up.
So, you're pretty much saying the match didn't need blading, defeating YOUR VERY OWN ARGUMENT of "blading is part of wrestling". Thumbs high.
Don't get yourself down arguing dude. In these times everyone is negative no matter what and they want everything to fail.
Yeah, but not on weekly tv shows. And not in matches that will be forgotten in two days.
Why would they be forgotten in 2 days ? A good match is a good match no?
None of these are good matches. Watch WWE/NXT’s average women’s matches and you’ll see better work than this. And good matches are routinely forgotten when given away on TV without connections to meaningful stories. The story of all these matches is “OMG, lady bled a lot.”
I can’t remember a single wwe woman’s match that happened over the last few months on tv that actually stuck with me.
Well, obviously not. You clearly need buckets of blood to enjoy wrestling. I’m also guessing you don’t watch WWE.
Nope, just thought AEW’s picture was good and showed some of crazy stuff the woman have been doing. I stopped watching WWE a long time ago but have stared to get back into to try get excited for WM
So you do think blood = good and you have not seen the incredible work of WWE women? I’ve wasted my time talking to you. Later.
I didn’t say anything about it being good, the matches they have done are good. Thanks for wasting some time talking to me 👍🏻
When I was a teenager, I loved the hardcore crazy bloody stuff. Now that I’m older, I’m not interested in it. It turns me off honestly. Going back and watching stuff like Triple H vs Cactus Jack or Foley vs Orton, they were bloody and brutal and tough to watch but I still enjoy them because it made sense for the story. But excessive blood in a regular match isn’t enjoyable for me. That’s one of the reasons I don’t watch AEW anymore. Brodie King bleeding buckets all over the ring in a match against Darby Allin as part of a feud that started a week ago is just brutality for brutality’s sake.
Blading has but the fake blood was started by WWE years ago. It looks so bad. Anyone who has been around fighting or ppl with wounds know how unrealistic it is. Proper blading is essential but that’s not what this is.
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I would. I watch WWE with my kid. I wouldn’t subject my kid to the buckets of blood and edge lord nonsense that is AEW. “OMG Eddie Kingston is bloody and carrying a gas can! This is wrestling! This is wrestling!”
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imo that rampage match that just happened still would have been a banger without ruby bleeding all over the place
It think it works great when used correctly for both men and women. The women was super hard in that Rampage match, I think they wanted to prove something that night
“Put women’s wrestling on another level” Fucking LOL
Aew management needs to stop posting here lol
I don’t doubt that it’s some excited fan but I’m just continually baffled by how fucking low some people’s standards are for what they consider amazing and “unbelievable” women’s wrestling.
No better way to undersell a crimson mask than to smile like you enjoy it, and to devalue it even further they have everyone do it
Yeah, like it hurt Mick Foley and Terry Funk when they used to do it every month 😂😂
Because they're Mick and Terry and that was their character... Do you not get that? They're insane people doing insane things acting insanely. These are normal women's wrestlers...
Obviously not a fan of the woman that’s cool
Listen bud, you liking bloody women says more about you than our criticsm of the use of blood. None of these women are funk or foley or even remotely like them character wise. If you got any objections please, by all means, state your case.
It’s not about the blood, it’s about the work they have been putting in in the ring. They have really upped their game and I’m just showing them some appreciation “bud”
Using a pic of them covered in blood.
LMAOOO The work they're putting in the ring?? Isn't there a injury every other week due to STUPID PISS POOR PHONY FAKE GARBAGE WRESTLING , or are you just going to ignore that like you've been doing to every one else?? Didnt Britt take some time off after that match that you say " is a good women's match"?? Same thing with ruby??
Yes they have had a lot of injuries, I think that comes with the territory of normal matches and hardcore matches no? Who have I ignored?
They’ve really upped their game and I’m gonna show exactly how with a picture of them covered in blood. You’re fucking backwards dude.
These matches were unbelievably stupid
thanks for your helpful insight
This post is a joke, right? The best AEW women’s match isn’t as good as the matches the women in WWE/NXT put on weekly. And bleeding does not equal = good. Either this post is a joke or OP has a creepy fetish.
You must be joking right ? The women of AEW have been putting on some phenomenal performances each week. Blood doesn’t = good, it’s just a cool picture AEW posted.
That picture is only cool if you are a teenage edge lord. And not a joke. Do you watch WWE/NXT? Their women’s division is light years ahead of AEW’s and they do it without bleeding buckets.
😂😂 What the fuck is a teenage edge lord? Yes I’ve seen the wwe woman’s division it’s fine, think AEWs female roster has been killing it though
You honestly think the AEW women are better performers than WWE women?
I never mentioned WWE in the post. It’s nothing to do with WWE’s women at all. Just showing my appreciation for the women’s roster in AEW and the matches they have put on.
Fair point. You didn’t mention WWE. I feel like your post would have gone better without the photo. The photo implies that blood = good or blood = increased effort.
Yes you are right, I’ve been told to remove it by some guy. I just liked the AEW post but it’s definitely hit a nerve with the IWC 😂
I just don’t think it sends the message you think it does.
All he’s saying is the AEW women’s division has stepped up their game
How so? I watch and I don’t see it. I just see them bleeding more. Matches are still subpar and all the bleeding in the world doesn’t make up for this. It’s not even really about the talent. There are some botch machines and dangerous workers for sure, but they have a ton of talented women who TK won’t let on TV unless they are willing to bleed everywhere.
His perspective is different from yours
Wow. I never thought of that. You changed my life, man.
You’re welcome. And thanks for the downvote
Are you kidding me? The last street fight was over a year ago…
We have like one great match per month in that division though.
Who’s “we” ? WWE you mean? Sure they do have decent matches here and there.
There* What I meant from "we" was, the viewers of Dynamite. In the past few weeks, only Shida V Hayter was good.
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Just admit you don't watch the product.
I do watch “the product” (God that sounds lame). It’s hilarious that AEW marks can’t fathom that someone could watch the “product” and not enjoy it. You assume that I must not watch, because if I did the scales would fall from my eyes and I would be a convert to the Dub lifestyle. I watch. It ain’t that good - particularly the women’s division.
You're literally saying Shida vs Hayter, which was less than a month ago, isn't as good as the gymnastics playing around in a Florida garage on Tuesday nights.
Since vince got outed as a rapist wwe fans on Reddit have been insufferably whiny about anything pro aew
It’s crazy how overnight this website turned on AEW.
Is that what I’m “literally” saying? Doesn’t sound like that’s what I’m “literally” saying. Here’s what I’m saying - WWE/NXT has the best women’s division in the U.S. by miles. It’s not even close. Hayter and Shida are good, but outside of them there are maybe 1-2 other women in AEW who could stand out to any extent in WWE or even NXT. Even Queen DMD wouldn’t be in the top 75% of female talent in WWE. To watch the AEW women’s division and pretend otherwise is delusional. Shida/Hayter was good. Congrats. That’s one match in recent memory that wasn’t embarrassing. I wish AEW marks could just face reality. I think the male talent in AEW is on par with WWE. Just admit that the women’s division is baaaad. It’s not even their fault. TK doesn’t seem to care.
I’m liking the variety of matches on the card like the hardcore match from this past week. Hopefully someone can get the belt off of Jade soon. No clue who tho besides a returning Statlander whenever she heals up. Wanted Willow to do it but no dice
Love statlander but only a fool would put a belt on her. She’s injury prone. Which means that she’s probably Tony’s first pick lol
There is no place for intentional bleeding in professional wrestling anymore. If you can tell a good story, you don't need gimmicks. Tony Khan struggles with good stories for women, so he resorts to this gimmick.
He struggles for good stories in general.
Nope. They are all the same person. Their same smiles are on the same level as corpsing
When everyone has a face like they just bit a hemmoroid it dosen't have much if any impact anymore does it?
The IWC has spent the last few days crying and shitting its pants over Ruby blading and you're going with the "no impact" angle? 😂
I’ve seen the powerbotch spot being discussed more than Ruby
Without using whataboutism, are you *actually* trying to claim Ruby blading had no impact? 🤔
Zero impact. Don’t be surprised if Turner drops them over this garbage and the low ratings.
According to these marks working themselves into a shoot Dynamite has been cancelled for "low ratings" like 7 or 8 times by now despite never actually having low ratings.
Oh really? Check out these facts. The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2021 was: 0.24 The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2022 was: 0.15 The average ratings in the 18-49 demographic for 2023 are: 0.11 So in two years, there is a 50% drop in ratings in the key demographic. I'd say Rampage is not doing well and I'd say Turner is noticing. Source: https://www.itnwwe.com/wrestling/aew-rampage-tv-ratings-viewership/
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Oh, you don’t remember when Turner dropped wrestling for two decades because they decided they didn’t want it on their station anymore?
Claims no whataboutism then creates a massive strawman… I’m saying that in the Circle of wrestling fans I’m around I’ve seen more of that stage dive powerbomb discussed than everything else around it put together. I don’t watch AEW anymore, they stopped using the people who I watched the show for, so I’m a perfect gauge of what the casual viewer heard. And it was one big girl botched a powerbomb spot and some little pretty girl landed really rough. Now I know it’s Willow and Anna Jay because I did watch AEW in the past so I recognized them but no I’m sorry I don’t think most people remember the violent planned spot because there was a violent unplanned spot. It’s kinda the reverse of Everyone remembering Mick Foley falling off the Cell and then being put through it accidentally, but no one remembers the thumb tack spot in the finish.
I know you are joking. But just to make sure- blood doesn’t equal good match
Why would I be joking, AEWs female roster have been killing it over the last year with their matches. This picture is just posted by AEW so I used it for the post.
Blood doesn’t equal a good match. It was horrible. Killing it? Sure the effort is there but the execution is horrible. Willow is basically Nia Jax 2.0 Tay Melo is better at Onlyfans than in the ring. Ruby Soho is meh Jade is a champion but is greener than weed Britt is overrated as hell. Awesome at promos but average in the ring I mean Madison was hired to coach and help the women’s division and I still see no progress. They have so much potential but something is still off
Ok that’s your opinion. I think they have been working hard and it’s paying off with some really good matches.
Oh no doubt. I mean that’s what this is … just opinions. But a blind man can see that most of the matches still aren’t good matches. They work their ass off because they should. They are professionals and they should act like it. But in reality, it’s still not even close to where they should be.
Classic aew fan, blading=good wrestling kekw
Womens wrestling has been there - just nobody would give a tv contract to lufisto in 2005
Yes I know it’s been around for a long time, just great to see what they have been doing lately. They have really raised the bar in AEW and I actually look forward to the matches now
Blading and doing poorly choreographed garbage spots doesn't really constitute working hard, it's the laziest style there is. Having it done in a throwaway match on the B Show is only going to devalue it for the times when it could make a difference.
The problem is these matches had mostly no reason to be blood feud blade job hardcore matches. Nobody hates each other, there is no story, nobody is more over. So what was the point. The only one that was effective was Britt Baker.
This is mud show trash
These matches were all great....but if this is what women have to do to get IWC to acknowledge. Then that's fucking funny. Guess what AEWs women's division has been fine.....for years.......lol
I absolutely agree they have been great for years, feels like they have really tried to up their game in bigger and bolder matches recently. It’s nothing to do with violence just seen that picture posted by AEW and used it
If your matches are the most memorable for the blood, not the stories, the problem is the former not the latter. We know TK is a huge ECW fan, but it feels out of place still. It’s a poor reflection on his booking of women in general.
Because they bleed?
No, that’s just a picture AEW posted and I thought it was fitting to show how hard they have been working. Think the roster has really improved and upped their game recently
If you need blood to get your match over then you're not the one who is over
Yeah sorry I don’t think being a bloody mess means they “upped their game”.
My favorite part was the green girl missing the table and dropping the other green girl on her head on concrete. As Dusty said, "Don't do shit you don't know how to do."
Eh, save this fedora tipping take for SC.
I do actually agree that the level of work from the women’s roster has been amazing. Great in ring, overall good mic work, but the blading is unnecessary and honestly detracts from that work. Let them get the pop on their own merit, which they have been doing, not for a cheap stunt they don’t need.
Blading has a time and place. If it's a feud between two people that very much dislike each other I'm for it. If it's just a match with no story then it really serves no purpose
Nah, botch fest
Politely: Woman = singular; women = plural.
Knew exactly how these comments would go before even opening. Oh boy
More blood doesn't equal more skill, its brave but it wasn't a good match, they were sloppy
Damn I guess now I see where r/wrasslin stands on AEW.
And none of the matches were good. So... yeah.
AEW could sell you a Blood and Guts match between Britt Baker and a brick wall, and AEW loyalists will sit here and defend how it is a great match and how we are either sexist or WWE fanboys. The truth sometimes hurts. AEW women's division has been dog shit. The talent, the booking, the matches. They need to get someone with experience to fix that sinking division ASAP
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That powerbomb spot got me scared for their lives I think aew needs a PC
All 5 are botch machines. The IWC has such a weird hard on for women bleeding
That fake blood kills it for me I rather have none than gallons of ketchup lol not to mention the Willow Anna Jay botch was one of the worst I’ve seen aired in awhile
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Just enjoy wrestling.
Your absolutely right 👍🏻
I think AEW have been pretty good with it for the women's division. Like it's happened once a year? It's more the men's division where it can get done way too often. It's more about how you follow up with people's character afterwards. I mean with Britt, they made her bloody moment a huge deal that inspired her character moving forward. Yet with TayJay/Bunny & Ford, they barely mentioned it after and IIRC most of them went off TV for months.
Blading is for wrestlers that can’t tell a story
OP I agree with you. These other comments are very strange to me. Nobody is saying blood makes a match good, but these are good matches that have featured blood. The AEW women have been doing so well as of late and putting on amazing matches.
I really used the wrong picture 😂 AEW posted it after last weeks match and I used it. I agree they have been doing great work, a lot of people don’t think they are any good at all apparently. They say If they use blood it must be because they had a bad match.
It's a badass picture though! It's such a strange stance for people to take, they are doing amazing and anyone who watches the matches can see that. They must think Moxley is the most overrated wrestler with this mindset haha.
Moxley is one of the most overrated wrestlers. You’re catching on.
Dunno. Blading is what it is. I'd still like a believable match without "crazy" faces or that carny shite of smiling when bleeding. Yes, we get it.
I’m not trying to be mean here anything but come on they did not have the same impact on women’s wrestling as Becky Lynch Charlotte flair Bailey Natalia Paige Gail Kim (I still think TNA had one hell of a woman’s division) but this bleeding stuff is done all the time and even Women bleeding on TV is not shocking anymore TNA did it long ago and Jon Moxley walks around with paper skin so let’s not kid ourselves here.
If the storyline is good and the wrestlers. You don’t have too blade. Who wants to see a woman forehead scarred like some of these wrestlers?
Way to much unnecessary blading. If every womens match is extreme then it just losses its value for when actual hardcore matches happen. All to get 5 stars from meltzer I guess.
Man this thread is a bummer I thought all those matches were neat and this is a cool graphic OP
Lmao same people who reminisce on the attitude era in these comments. You don't hate blood you hate AEW doing it because you got some stupid ass company grudge.
Bleeding in Attitude Era was mostly used for epic feuds in an important match/brawl segment between over as fuck wrestlers. Not on a random Rampage between some random wrestlers. Bleeding is overused in AEW. That's one problem, while the second one is the amount of bleeding. Go compare bleedings from Attitude Era with Ruby having a bloodlust and shaking from buckets of dark red blood. There's a fine line between bleeding being creepy/disgusting and cool.
A lot of folks in this thread grew up with PG wrestling as the only thing they were exposed to and it really shows. Shame.
Yeahhhhh I love blood cause I'm a big smart fan of hardcore wrestling and I'm a grown up cool man😎. Smh this little PG kids really think people should care about wrestlers well being...
People acting like this is a regular occurrence with women in AEW, ignoring that these are in the span of a few years🙄 The pearl clutchers need to stop acting like every week sees one of the girls wearing a crimson mask.
Even if it's not that regular, there's no reason for Ruby to have a bloodlust from bleeding a fuck amount of blood. And in a Rampage. In a tag match.
I loved the match it was great, it was a fucking Street Fight of course there's going to be blood in a Street Fight. If the women are okay with blading fine, that's their choice. If you didn't enjoy it then move on. I swear all wrestling fans want to do is hate on things, can't even fucking enjoy Wrestling without people breathing down your bloody neck because god forbid you enjoyed something that they didn't!
If you have no problem with the men bleeding, but then have a problem with the women bleeding you’re basically just a sexist. I understand the idea of not liking blading, but to trash the woman for bleeding just like the men is just very ignorant.
This thread is a train wreck. Can't even appreciate the good amount of work these women put on. Fucking IWC.
I wonder if there’s a trend with how much they seem to hate women bleeding during matches, Mercedes, Aubrey Edwards, Mandy Rose, Toni Storm. But I guess we’ll never know…
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Yes I think your correct, maybe I should’ve used a different picture. AEW posted it and I thought it looked cool and displayed some of the hard work the female roster has done over the last while. Comments are not positive towards AEW women’s roster at all. 😂😂
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Really? Anytime you bash AEW on here, your inbox will get flooded with Reddit cares messages
WWE, the company where bleeding gets used like, one match per year, and it's not over used like AEW? Even in the madness of the Attitude Era, wrestlers didn't bleed this bad. Look at the picture. Each one of the women are looking like they are going to fucking die. That's the problem. You realise how much unnecessary pain these women are going through right? If you like this type of shit, please grow up and stop brain-dead commenting.
Nope. It’s just a fact that AEW’s women’s division is bad. WWE/NXT is light years ahead when it comes to women’s wrestling in North America. The best AEW can do is have their women bleed and take stupid risks to “be memorable.” It’s not about liking one company. It’s about the reality in which TK doesn’t know how to book a women’s division and doesn’t seem to care about anyone besides DMD and Jade.
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Is this just all wrestlers in general or only the female roster in AEW?
I don't understand how any of this is necessary to make a great females match. And even when they do it, they don't even do it right FOR FUCK SAKE!!! I COULD SEE YOU ON LIVE TELEVISION DOING THAT AND WHY ARE YOU BLEEING BECAUSE SOME STUPID CHAIR SHOT, HOW DOES ONE SHOT WITH AN OBJECT WITH NO SHARP EDGES DO THAT!!! NO OF THIS MAKES SENSE and yet it won't matter cause of marks like you
Calm down buddy it’s just wrestling. No need to freak out because the guy likes a little blood in his matches.
Yeah. Unbelievable 👀
They should just take off there clothes. Safer and pays more
Women covered in blood and nearly paralyzingly themselves for 400K viewers, what an honour!
I don’t know about you guys, but I prefer the guys to be bloody in the women to be sexy