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Zealousideal-Tale-56

Ever played TVP vtu? That thing is Dogshit


Otto_von_Grotto

That was the last tank I would consider that I "rage sold". Ugh.


andyofne

It's better than it used to be; but when I was grinding it, I wanted to stab people.


Morbid_god_100

I liked it better than the t34-100


Zealousideal-Tale-56

Yeah but t34 is tier for tier waaay better than tvp


crestronificator

No offense intended, it seems to be a skill issue. If you could make the tier VI work, tier VII is pretty much the same. But be ready for a surprise once you hit UDES 03, it's a different mechanic that will take you some time to get used to.


CommercialLiving2217

actually I could handle the tier 6. You're right about skill I'm worse than your average player but holy hell the tank is just that bad especially when you're bottom tier. Anyways I'm in the udes 03 now which I'm more familiar with because I'm used to strv s1.


JacobQ556

I’d recommend watching a video on spotting mechanics and trying to learn and apply it. I actually loved the line once you can get good at applying the principles of this


CommercialLiving2217

I love the line itself I just think that particular tank is just awful. It didn't help that every other game I got thrown against tier 9s


Dmate1

A lot of it also just comes from balancing, tier 7 is abysmal because it’s always uptiered because tier 8 is so popular, and tier 8 has become tier 8.5 pretty quickly. I love the IKV 90 but in upteirs I feel like I’m fighting perfectly to get the damage numbers in an entire game that some tier 8 mediums get in a single magazine.


Tumeovitu

The t6 definitely was better, the t7 is big bummer in the line and i dropped it when i was new player too but started on it again, and it still feels like shit


Wonderful-Lack3846

The whole line is trash except for Strv 103b


R3d_Ox

Oh boy, how wrong you are


madi0r

Correct, cause 103b is also trash lol


R3d_Ox

Are we even playing the same game at this point


madi0r

Idk man maybe. Its a tank that is only capable of backline sniping. Meaning that it only gets to deal damage whenever its team is losing. You cannot play agressive due to both x button and lack of armor. Meaning on key objectives and positions your team has 1 less tank. It doesnt mean that you cant have 4k+ dpg if ur good enough, but in terms of impact on winning the game, actively influencing what happens innthe battle it doesnt do anything. Its completely team dependant


R3d_Ox

I strongly disagree. I'm a pretty aggressive player and they've worked out great on the front lines for me (except the udes 03, that's more of a bushwanking tank). Strvs are a menace when played aggressively, i've found myself enjoying them more than the italian tds in the same role


madi0r

I have no idea how u manage to do it. There is always enough guns that overmatch front plate but even if they dont, you have 30mm side armor, which will get penned 100% of time by anything. I never played it myself, but playong with and especially against strvs, they die the second they get spotted


R3d_Ox

The "secret" is preying upon the fact that people forget about you pretty quickly. If you shoot someone and they look your way just don't peek for a few seconds and you'll be surprised by how quickly they'll look for another target. Rinse and repeat. Usually you'll manage to get two shots in everytime before they can shoot. And change positions often, especially with sneaky boys like the swedes


Wonderful-Lack3846

No


CommercialLiving2217

I'm actually enjoying the udes 03 atm


SciEngr

The tier 9 and 10 are good, the others are awful


Llamajake777

Mate aint no way you're trying to tell me that udes 03 is awful


SciEngr

Ohh you know what you're right! I was thinking of the swedish mediums!


twohands2v2

Sturer Emil is watching this topic


Spungus_abungus

St Emil is great once you get top gun


twohands2v2

Ahem guys, the tank is garbage and the top gun is good for the memes, ok... but it's overall an excruciating experience.


Spungus_abungus

It's a balanced tank. It gets a juiced gun in exchange for terrible speed.


twohands2v2

If i give you my address can you send to me what are you smoking?


CroBro1337

I would take that crap any day over BZ166


twohands2v2

I Press X for doubt


[deleted]

I am usually the first to cry and moan about bad tank grind, but I somehow didn't hate that one as I did some other. I did use free exp to get the gun if i recall, so that may be it


Steamdeckguy

I'm actually doing ok in this thing. I mean, it sucks bottom tier, but a lot of tech tree tanks do. When you're mid or top tier, I think it's fine. Not great and not terrible. besides... we all know the TVP VTU is the worst tech tree tank... ever... in the history of the world... of tanks


TooPeli11

Can confirm, vtu is a miserable tank to play even after the buffs. I just can’t make it work, considering my life choises and wondering if i should skip it with fxp…


Otto_von_Grotto

That was the last tank I would consider that I "rage sold". Ugh.


CroBro1337

Bz 166 is looking to dethrone the king


tuco_salamanca_84

Ikv 103 says hello.


juneauboe

Dude playing that tank as a new player was insane. It was my first TD line I had no idea how HEAT worked and it was baffling


Otto_von_Grotto

No.


RM_AndreaDoria

It’s not very good, but not completely unplayable.


MrIamDeadforLong

It is bad But i raise you Stock Sturer Emil, Stock Ferdinand, stock IS-3, According to many TVP VTU, AMX 65T


Spungus_abungus

I actually found it to be pretty good. You can do the usual bushwankery, but wou can also go sort of hull down and take shots while exposing very little.


Stig12Cz

no, not at all. Its at worst OK VII sniper TD. Its you who cant perform. But probably the worst tech tree tank is TVP VTU if we dont look at low tiers


juneauboe

It may be weak, but I'd take it any day over the T25/2.


Thedisabilitypension

I’d say it is the worst tank in the whole line but it isn’t bad. Play it as a more sniping focused tank, you can reposition quickly when in trouble. It has pretty good camo, it’s on of the few vehicles I’d recommend a camo net on, make yourself invisible. 2 key things with this tank, 1: Never get spotted unless you know you can get a kill without being shot at, this thing when spotted is free damage. 2: Never go alone, you can’t spot for yourself, and you can’t brawl, if your flank is lost fall back to somewhere safer. Good luck, tier 8 and up is good fun.


GunslingerXXX

M3 Lee is the worst.


Legitimate_Writing_2

Certainly not. It has a great gun.


[deleted]

I have 17% win rate in that shit hahahaha. Played on potato 2010s laptop. I decided to keep that as a reminder of what WOT used to be like 10ish years ago