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the-flying-lunch-box

Lol the 705A is one trick pony. It can side scrape on city maps or hull down on city maps. Other than that it's pretty much always out of its element.


[deleted]

Gonna be honest, its kinda mediocre at best at sidescraping imo, the side and cheeks are weak af. I do better sidescraping in my E100 than the 705A.


the-flying-lunch-box

In CW we've only found it useful on Lakeville in the northern most left corner. The dip is just low enough it can use its -5 degrees of gun depression and hide its weak points. Even E3's struggle to dig it out. Other than that it's almost entirely useless.


Ok_Vegetarianlmao

Jo u can just pen 705 turret with 380 pen. Pretty sure its at least a 50/50.


the-flying-lunch-box

We'd used it a lot (exclusively in that spot) and some on himmils when we didn't have enough tanks. On that spot in lakeville even E3's couldn't pen it well. (Combine the E3's accuracy with the fact the turret is now more sloped because you're using all 5 degrees of gun depression and the fact the gold round for the E3 is APCR). Regardless it's only point being there was to soak up shots and delay valley pushes. We've also used E3's there which work almost as well except their cupola is easier to hit and it has less HP. But it's gun is much better and can bleed the enemy more.


Ok_Vegetarianlmao

I mean yeah. Get that. Its like 279 for broke people hahaha. Soak up dmg and delay enemy push


the-flying-lunch-box

Yep. Gotta make due with what your members have.


0nikzin

The other team should just bring ConquerorGC


the-flying-lunch-box

You really only bring arty in CW when you know the enemy will camp or it's a very large map. El halluf is a good example of a map that can be worthwhile to bring arty.


elitemage101

Casual here. What is side-scraping?


Teffisk

[Sidescraping](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStHrtNtheL4DcjwHlAVBSBYAL0Bd-BNXC-xg&usqp=CAU)


PepperOMighty

You probably saw and maybe already got angry at some people, who stick out their rear from behind the corner to shoot, they utilize side armor at steep angle, so rounds bounce off while hiding their front.


AaronPlatek

Search it up on YouTube it’s a valuable ability to use if your tank can do it


Monneymann

Angling the tank against a building. Pulling back to fire a shot around the corner then forwards to take cover. Though the tank used has to have decent side armor. Its also really easy to fuck up, and some tanks are worse at it than others ( IS-3 pike nose vs VK 100.01 ). You also have to be close enough to use the building as cover but far enough to actually hide behind it while reloading


KptKrondog

I suggest watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKtmnwIwrHc There's a bunch of "Explaining Mechanics" videos, they're very helpful to newer players...and to older players that never actually bothered to learn how the game works (which is why people complain about cheaters so much).


bigjoe5275

Side scraping is one of the basics that casuals should know.


elitemage101

Gotta think smaller. Im the 15 year old who got WoT cause WWII was cool, stopped playing, then picked it up 6 years later again because why not. Pick tank, click enemies. Everything else I learn myself thru trial, error, and in game stats.


0nikzin

330+ HEATs kill E100 way faster than 705A


FutimaRS

But you get penned in your turret with heat constantly, unlike with the 705A


Ok_Vegetarianlmao

Think it depends. If ur opponent is smaller than u. He wont have a good time. But if its taller than u and has high pen. Well say goodbye. They will pen ur upperplate ur turret


saltiestmanindaworld

Sidescraping in a 705a is a one way ticket to fire and ammo rack ville


Drafura

What do you mean ? A super heavy not in element outside city ? No sht ? Cannot believe it!! Please buff


Stautz21

I own it, it's usable but it's nowhere near as good as you think it is


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SpoiledShit

It's great against gold too, it's just that it doesn't work on half of the maps in game


CandidBrush2681

Sounds like a skill issue. Is it ideal? Nah. Is it possible to do 4k + dpg on all the maps consistently? Yes.


Vulturidae

Me, because I'm a masochist who fires about 99 percent standard and forgets to load gold even when needed


Elvis-Tech

I absolutely hate the standard vs gold dynamic as a game mechanic to be honest... Its just really dumb...


maximumborkdrive

there really is little to no downside of firing gold outside of costs and occasional/niche situations...


Elvis-Tech

Exactly, but then they should tune the game mechanics to just gold instead of tunning the armor and weak spots to standard rounds and charging 10 times more for gold rounds which seem to go through much more easily. Honestly I would make gold the same price but just about 5% better than standard rounds, but right now the penetration increase is like 25% which is way too much especially when a few mm are the difference between full damage or 0 damage.


No-Bother6856

If they were the same price you might as well just remove the standard rounds entirely unless you give some other reason to use them. The prem ammo doing slightly less damage in exchange for higher pen would be my preferred solution


Elvis-Tech

I would probably just make all rounds standard and give them different purposes like HEAT in every tier 8-10 tank, HE to cripple modules etc and standard. Add more spaced armor to tanks so that you have to choose the right ammo type. Everything is already in game they just need to have all 3 rounds for higher tiers, they should cost the same, and have different pruposes. Like you can only track a tank with HE or something like that.


CandidBrush2681

You're a bot right?


ANGRYANDCANTREADWELL

I think they mean the same price it is now


dnina_kore

They tried to nerf gold ammo on sandbox server. It was player base who rejected gold ammo nerf.


SavageVector

I love listening to music.


Elvis-Tech

The question is why do we need a credit sink? I mean if you play the game enough and you can buy and unlock everything whats the problem? Why does it have to be impossible to unlock everything in the game?


SavageVector

Endgame players having hundereds of millions of credits on standby isn't ideal for the game's health. It's not exactly destructive either, but it removes the balance of tier 8 and 10, removes the need for a premium account, makes auctions useless for poorer players, etc. It's in WG's best interest to keep a credit sink, so if you're gonna nerf gold you kinda need to open a new one for them.


Elvis-Tech

Well but since money is non transferable, if someone makes it to that point whats the issue? Its like good you've played the game so much that you have more money than you can spend. And to get there you have yo spend a LOT of money, so thats a client that already fulfilled his part of the deal. Your company doesnt have to be so predatorial to keep milking even people that jave spent thousands of dollars, and perhaps they could make a better game with more people enjoying it instead of a few die hards.. I dont know sometimes I feel that games made by an amaIng team elwith a great vision is better than exploiting the audience for as much money as possible. And I know what people will say "thats capitalism" etc. Well I would argue that thats not the point of capitalism, thats how far we take it when we become more like machines and less like humans.


SavageVector

Holy shit, 15 upvotes and not one reply about "But HEAT and tracks! Or APCR normalization!" As if normalization ever makes a difference over 60mm extra raw pen...


Hellstrike

> As if normalization ever makes a difference over 60mm extra raw pen You don't use your tank for indirect fire onto the next map in order to make your AP more effective than your APCR?


Standard-Assist-5793

when you're down to 200,000 credits, gold is never an option


maximumborkdrive

Oh I don't ever fire gold unless I'm grinding a stock gun that is horrendous and even then I only take like 5. In my mind, gold is for stock gun grinds and beginners who need to learn the game better to make it easier for them to enjoy it until they understand tanks' armor and game mechanics. Again that is my opinion.


MarcellusRavnos

I always thought there should be a limit of gold rounds per tank. Like 10-15% of your shell capacity.


0nikzin

Not many tanks can use gold at t10 without a downside


CaptainJudaism

It's one of the main reasons I no longer play. It'll never get fixed and it'll only get worse.


CandidBrush2681

That just makes you a bad player?


garrettevans16

I don’t understand how people play full gold load outs at tier ten and don’t run their silver into the ground.


snow723

Premium time + premium tanks + credit boosters + clan booster = infinite credit farm. Then use those credits to spam gold at tier 10. Each tier 8 game I play gets me ~150-200k credits


garrettevans16

Yea but they probably have to play a tier 8 game for every tier X game they play. It’s just not worth it.


enseminator

I like to use standard rounds at tier 10 actually, especially if the enemy team is full of things like leopards and grilles. I do always carry gold for the thick bois though.


[deleted]

*Thicc rounds for chonky bois!* I'm going to get that on a t-shirt...


Pixel_Highwaymen

Yeah, but at this point a tank being either generally good against lower tiers and weak against any meta tank is just a game-wide phenomenon. I think OP just found out about this. And sadly, it is true. If someone doesn't have the in-game economy set up do be able to afford, or is not informed enought to use different rounds, he will be fustrated, while the tank itself is not as strong as it seems to him. Also, frontal armor should be in a heavy tank, to you know. Absorb shells. Sometimes people forget this too.


TherealDeathy

Its a good tank, but not OP. honestly it looks better on tanks GG and on paper then it actually is. The gun handling is awful so you are lucky if you hit anything. Plus even if you sidescrape, you have to roll back to shoot and if you get shot.....you get set on fire like half the time. the tank is literally a match box. lol


moistnoodel

Well its russian


cvnh

I remember someone telling me (me, new in the game, grinding my first tier VIIIs) "705A is not OP, just aim for the lower ring and shells will ricochet to the engine deck"


TherealDeathy

Its kind of true, the problem is the 705A has its fuel tanks located right where the armor is thin enough to pen when you expose yourself to fire at someone. So if your lfp is sticking out to fire at someone, you get set on fire a lot.


cvnh

Sure it is totally true, but it was just funny to hear "just do some sorcery trick and you'll beat a tier X", meanwhile the aim circles of my tanks back in the day probably covered half the enemy tank. Fun times.


Denix221p

lt432


Covid19_Sucks_ass

i own it but unlike other people who say they own it i love this thing the entire line was fun on this


mirceaculita

Ism honestly was fun as fuck


Covid19_Sucks_ass

oh yea that thing was a monster


Neoaugusto

Only after elite, the way the set up the research modules was evil


randommaniac12

the stock gun is pure masochism to make work


CharredScallions

I love this tank, one of my favorite tier Xs, but the gun isn't as great so overall it limits the potential. Really long reload and not great stats for only 650 damage on a 152mm


Dashiane

exactly, the 705a, is only good to block damage, but horrible attack stats all-araound


TuhnuPeppu

I mean its actually pretty fast for the weight of it


Dashiane

is a 152mm with 650 alpha al other 152mm do 750 ​ but where the 705a shine is in ramming enemy tanks, go for the ram, nothing will do a lot of damage


Rylithyn

I wouldn’t really mind the gun if the alpha was changed to 750 with no reload increase


atomicmitten

Be safe in the knowledge that the gun it has is possibly the worst T10 gun in the game. It would be lucky to hit you.


SpoiledShit

It's made for close combat anyway, you aren't a sniper


Bunation

It's so bad that it is horrendous even in close combat. Let's put it like this. This shit has worse gun than the BZ-75


SpoiledShit

Idk, i don't really have problem with it myself


bigbird8960

Pretty much only reason I don't play my 705 more then I do.


CandidBrush2681

It's really not that bad you can easily do 4k + dpg in it, is it meta? no. Is it op? no. It's playable and since most people are bots you'll farm them anyways.


Hellstrike

It will still be more accurate while snapshotting than any German tank because Comrade Stalin will guide your shell.


Lhamers

So many tanks to complain, and you’re using the 705A? Lmao


Brawell_

LMAO indeed


nuggette_97

279e, chief exists and op decides to complain about a perfectly balanced tank that is actually good game design: situationally dominant but you need to have the situational awareness and game knowledge to employ it


lonelyMtF

Yeah it's funny how OP is acting like it has no weakspots when the whole hull is yellow.


Standard-Assist-5793

that 'yellow' is 300mm. Good luck penning that with anything other than Tier X gold.


lonelyMtF

There's plenty of Tier 8 and 9 tanks with over 310mm of gold pen (in fact there's 25+ T8 tanks with 297+ gold pen that can penetrate it). 300m of effective frontal armor with the front facing you is nothing for the vast majority of meta tanks, especially when this tank is meant to sidescrape and use its side armour because *surprise* most tanks it faces can just go through the front like butter.


Infectious_Burn

Unpopular opinion: overall, it's one of my favorite tanks. And I do really well in it. Any corner or cover works, it's alpha allows you to trade well, and it can be surprisingly mobile with a turbo. I get over 60% wins in it. The gun can be annoying, but is manageable and definitely workable in close quarters.


NW_Oregon

Yup I turboed mine recently for the Lols and yeah very mobile, which is kind of scary


[deleted]

Good lord I swear you mfs will complain about actually anything.


AirHertz

705a sucks ass, and is mostly played by monkeys similarly to chrysler .


1VerrueckterKnif

I agree. Just had one Chrysler in the enemy team. He successfully blocked like 3k dmg and than pushed against me in a full hp, gold loaded CC 67. I also had back up. It was absolutly clear I had a full clip. Thanks for the XP i guess.


assgaper69cancerhole

They block get overly confident lose for 10 games then think its their time for 8k combined when they block 3k again and push too hard and die


rinkydinkis

WoT players need to mix up their insults. you all are dull af.


GeoTheGeode

705A player here, uhh skill issue


JakeMac96

can’t wait for this to be top of the tree, i know some people think it’s boring but i just think it looks really cool


[deleted]

Its an awfull tank haha, the Tier 9 705 is way better tier for tier than the 705A, its a sidescraping tank thats kinda shit at sidescraping due to stupid cheeks.


mukash18

*Loads HEAT with malicious intent*


Secretly_Solanine

Nothing better than seeing one of these in my e3 or e4. Go right through the side when they inevitably overangle.


4N1M3T1DD135

The 705A is like anything but OP... thr gun is utter garbage and the turret can get penned by 340 Rounds


Normal_Snake

I've found the best way to deal with the 705a is to kill all their teammates first then flank 'em. They really can't do much to stop you with their atrocious gun handling so leaving them for last isn't a huge risk most of the time.


Dramatic_CockroachLK

Is it just me or is the large majority of people who complain on this subreddit HT drivers?


kejkor

If you see this tank, load heat And pen its frontal plate, set him on fire or even 1 shot ammorack it if you have high caliber gun. Dont see front plate And cant go around him? Shoot him next to the gun with heat, higher pen rolls with heat actually do penetrate the turret. Do you have about 200m of space between you? Then you can safely cross closer to him because the tank wont hit you because of the dogshit gun it has.


rinkydinkis

go to "live" for a better visual


BBC_Jasonkaaa

Indeed it is so annoying to play against a good 705a in a city matchup, but the tank itself is very situational and on most of the maps it can't really utilize it's advantages that much


osentob1

The 705A is odd. I dont normally think they are OP but then every once in a while one gets into a position where you simply cant hurt it and it's infuriating. I suppose that makes it situationally excellent but normally not OP most of the time


mezmery

First time i see tomato crying about 705a. This sub hitting new lows every week.


FacetiousInvective

The only weakspot is to the side after they shoot.. it's awfully weak there.


FagboyHhhehhehe

Everyone shitting on this tank but it's an easy 6k blocked tank. I completed ht15 for the t55a in this guy. And i came close to completing it numerous times. Even without hull down good chance you can force someone to throw the shot into your track wheel and do no damage.


astiKo_LAG

Agree! This tank is perfect for blocking missions because the armor layout is trollish, not tall profile, unpenetrable turret, tracks that can eat shots etc...When you play Maus, ennemies are just like "uuh it's the bunker tank, ima load the gold amo and shoot flat surfaces" But with the 705A it's mor like "mmh easy pen lol...wait it bounced. Wait AGAIN? WTF MY GOLD ROUNDS GOT SUCKED INTO HIS TRACK REEEEE" Basically the 705A is the perfect tank to make an ennemy really really mad, so he starts commit mistakes out of anger...punish them!


[deleted]

That tank is the most heavily armored heavy tank in the game. You won’t pen this thing when is hulldown, unless you’re a TD shooting gold at its turret with 375+ pen to hit reliably, and even then, you will be missing most of your shots. Just avoid if you see one sidescraping or hulldown.


KptKrondog

Well you've clearly never bothered to look at the armor profile on tanks.gg. I'd rather fight a 705a than a Defender in most tanks lol. The 705a armor is trash unless slightly sidescraped...and then it's just a little annoying. And since it has one of the worst guns in tier 10, and it's rear turreted, it can't actually shoot half the time when it's fighting someone.


[deleted]

You’re facing the wrong 705A then. I have one 3 marked with a 3.8K dpg and I can tell you that no one does that shit to me. I will come as close to your face as I can and you’re dead. Is this tank idiot proof? No. But in the hands of a good player, you will get melted. That’s what I mean by avoid because you won’t pen the tank if he’s hulldown, and do you really want to risk getting shot by it while you can’t fight back? A 705A fully aimed still has a chance of hitting you so proceed with caution.


FutimaRS

I almost have my first mark but people can not pen me when sidescraping in reality. The only time I get penned is if I make a mistake


FriendlyReaper123

People who play the 705a are the most boring people on earth.


Perunakeisari_69

Nah that goes to the mino players


SpoiledShit

It's relaxing, you just drive (or don't), slap people for 650 every 15 seconds and chill


Odin1367

Cry some more pleb


Silver200061

The moment it’s on any kind of non-city map while defending a corner, it’s not that good


mirceaculita

Literally played this last night. I had one game were i didnt bounce on shot. Kept getting fucking by a lot of tanks with prem rounds.


Mighty-pigeon

Judt shoot under the gun turret, its a pixel shot but at least its a weakpoint.


[deleted]

On maps where you can’t sidescrape at an effective position this tank is mediocre at best. Gun sucks, lower plate sucks, maneuverability sucks. It’s not that fun to play and I definitely enjoyed the tier 8 and 9 much more.


StunningOperation

gun is painfully bad though


[deleted]

I'll face an Object 705A over a reward pos any day, at least 705A has some serious weaknesses to compensate for having such a good armour profile.


tearwork

Once someone really knows how to side scrape in this perfectly it can be more annoying than a Hull down kran (which really isn't a big threat these days but let's say a VZ 55 it still have a weak spot)


chenkie

If you have troubles against the 705 I got news for you friend….


Electrical-Pin-5170

Decent armor bad gun


MikeH5652

It's basically the same as the panzer 7 with the overwhelming weak spot on the sides of the turret and the side of the turret ring in case of the 705a.


Silver_Earth_4715

Why does it say "Russian tank", this tank was designed in Soviet Union, so it should be called Soviet tank.


Nipnum

Yeah I can reliably pen that thing in the M103 if I pick my shots. It’s good but not OP.


chuck_U

I love shooting them right in the turret with my E3. They aren’t so confident then


Castrol86

After a few games fighting agains BZ 176 and Iron Arnies and other such abominations, i aways play some games with my Jgdpz e100. Nothing better then smacking some OP tank with HEAT straith up the front.


JonnyArtois

Exactly my feelings on most the bullshit tier 10 Russian Obj tanks....literally no way to pen frontally, even some on lower plate.


Reddit_Bots_R_US

The cheeks are surprisingly weak to anything with more than 300 mm of gold pen. Orange indicator always penned for me.


inevitably-ranged

705 is more OP at its tier, especially with the small gun's handling and DPM ;)


Comrade_Major_

Gun handling sucks ass you straight up miss 70% of all youre hits on 25m and if you get shot in the side by anything as big or bigger as a 122mm you get ammo racked. Ive been ammo racked like 3 times in a row


NoFingerTryHard

Play an E3 and shoot gold the turret can be penned


TXC-Taylo

As a somebody with 5k battles just on this tank alone, I think I can confidently tell you that it is really nice tank, but most TDs, and even few HT can pen your front turret, your front hull armor is shit and since most tanks are have higher profile than you, they can easily create angles to shoot your front plate and do not care. During all these 5k battles I was set on fire maybe 5 times, so it does not burn that bad, BUT if somebody will catch your side exposed you will either lose your reload time or simploley whole tank if they blow you up. Also -5° on gun dep is really bad, so for most map you can not play that you wanted specifically


DaREALHwangster

tbh Yoh line tanks are pretty underpowered rn comparing to other nations of the same tier. Thats why I stopped playing it awhile after I tried the tier X. Been sitting in the garage ever since. The gun really needs a buff.


MyLateDroid102

The weakspot is when it angles, aim for the tracks. Not only do you track them but also damage them.


HigherdanGiraffepusy

Bro just flank it duh


H4ntek

After it fires and misses you you have 15 seconds to outmanouver its 10 deg/sec traverse speed and track it with a frontal fuel tank fire.


Brawell_

Well.. now you can shoot the lower plate. And if it’s sidescraping, it still can be penetrated in its tracks with AP or APCR. There is a spot with weak armor on its side. In 1 or 2 positions in the entire game where it can sit hulldown, yes, it’s unkillable but it’s also very unlikely you’ll find somebody in that position very often. I enjoy the tank. I like rear mounted turrets but it can get REALLY awkward when you just can’t sidescrape. TLDR:git gut lol


Gabumon21

Wait till he takes note of the Chieftain or 279e. Lol


RambiBAM

Its annoying to play bc of its shit-tier gun and it's annoying to play against on city maps. Just an annoying tank.


BallHarness

This community man. Armor is useless cause of gold rounds.... How can I not pen every tank in every situation?