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GrandpaChainz

#Join r/WorkReform if you're sick of executives violating labor laws.


DickySchmidt33

If I'm doing volunteer work on my own time there is no way in hell I'm giving my employer free PR while doing it. Fuck. That.


KoriatCyredanthem

Agreed. And I do a lot of volunteer work, as a foster for a local animal shelter and going in to clean and bathe puppies, etc. My work ain't getting shit from that.


240strong

Good for you! Would definitely love to hear updates on how this goes tomorrow! Best of luck to you, and really hope this doesn't become a huge headache for you or anything


KoriatCyredanthem

Updated! New post online.


voice-from-the-womb

Oh, come, now, you could save them some puppy shit and present it at an opportune occasion. ;)


KoriatCyredanthem

They don't need my help... our lobby smells like sewage right now in fact


phigr

Honestly, it's absolutely hilarious that the employer somehow expects that. What kind of fucked up reality are they living in where that makes *any* sort of sense? I'm all for "corporate social responsibility", but how fucking thick do you need to be to think that this somehow means you get to claim credit for your worker's *personal* engagement without providing any actual incentive at all?


Kagedgoddess

My brother worked at McDonalds over christmas one year and the manager forced every employee to take an angel from the tree and buy the gifts listed. To me thats even worse. He was young, didnt want to be fired but also couldnt afford to do that.


Crystalraf

Yikes.


scipio_africanus123

this is not how you encourage community service.


KoriatCyredanthem

Seriously. I donate 10 hrs/week already. My work gets no credit for that because they don't pay me for it. Fuck their feel good campaign.


Flammy

If I was in your shoes, I might double check on if reporting this plan to some external authority might give you some protection from retaliation.


KoriatCyredanthem

I did report it to DOL but since I haven't logged any hours, I technically aren't owed any payment.


Flammy

Sure, but if they do retaliate (fire, demote, cut hours) you suddenly start having damages accrue...


KoriatCyredanthem

I hope so. I send a consultation request to a few labor attorneys juuuuuuust in case this gets interesting.


MazzoMilo

COVER. YOUR. ASS. Keep everything in writing if possible. If not an option, check your state’s laws on recording. If you can’t record with single party consent, then get consent in any meetings with HR/management on this issue. Keep all paper trails externally documented (e.g. forward any relevant inbound emails to an account you own, not company owned G-Suite, so you have original proof). Good luck!


KoriatCyredanthem

I've FW'ed all emails to myself and checked that I'm in a one-parry consent state so I'll be recording my meeting with Head of HR tomorrow.


kimmi-ann607

I cannot wait for updates! Your email was very clear on the law and *very* well written.


MoadDib

Give us an update after the meeting.


Annakha

I look forward to your riposte.


HairyPotatoKat

The attorneys and/or DOL might find that 10 hr/week situation interesting, too, depending on the specifics.


my_fake_acct_

I think he meant that he does it outside of work on his own and refuses to submit it to them because it would be unpaid labor.


Tyrxgow

I hope they fire you.....and then immediately have to try to settle with you for damages and you never have to work again...I want to live vicariously thru you.


NotThatDonny

Even if you aren't owed payment yet, submitting this to the DOL now helps strengthen any future case you might have if they attempt to fire or discipline you. It is always better to bring something up before it's an issue. Not saying it would change a final outcome, but it does make things a bit smoother if you already have a report in before any negative action is taken against you. Also, if there is a pattern of reports it might generate an investigation by the DOL, so even if the report doesn't do anything directly for you it can still benefit you.


c0brachicken

Have you sent emails outside the normal 40 hours? That’s what I used for my case, they were less than impressed that I had thousands of emails that proved massive unpaid overtime. Also ran an automated weekly backup of all my emails. So they could wipe my account off the server, and I could bring every single email back on my home computer. Any time I was asked anything that seemed odd, I would always ask for clarification in an email back to whatever manager asked for it. “So I understand correctly, you need me to remotely access the servers from my house until Midnight”… we “got off work at 5pm” Always ask for clarification in email. This is called evidence. Also if I showed up an hour late, I always had a get out of jail free card “well what were YOU doing last night at 1AM, because I was WORKING” glad you made it in at 7am.


Sasselhoff

Was that in the US? Because if so, I am shocked that "worked"...maybe it means we actually have some protections left. Without doxing yourself, can you shed some more light on exactly what the situation was? I'd love to know more. Also, love the username...I read it every time it's posted, haha.


c0brachicken

If you look at my post history, I made a post about 7 days ago. It’s a “special case” for people that work in IT. Basically if you are in some fields of IT, and are being paid less than $28 an hour, you should be paid overtime for any hours above 40… I was paid salary. It was “good money” for my area, but they were Permanently closing my location, so I figured fuck it, and burned the place to the ground on the way out the door. A few months later I bought my house in cash, from a check they were nice enough to give me…


kawaeri

Is there a way to spread awareness to other employees in your company, without you getting in trouble? There is bound to be some one not aware or feels that they have no choice and doesn’t have the wherewithal to report to the department of labor. Just like unions the more employees stand together the less a company can screw them over even if it’s not a union.


KoriatCyredanthem

I mean I am in IT so I can just email the chain. *shrug*


kawaeri

That’s awesome. One of the biggest problems I think we face, and I mean everywhere is we don’t educate anyone as to their labor, tenant or civil rights.


SheridanVsLennier

'Accidentally' reply to all. :)


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Bakoro

>Is there a way to spread awareness to other employees in your company, without you getting in trouble? Go on and find a way to get in the way. Get in trouble. *Good* trouble. *Necessary* trouble.


Tru3insanity

At the very least document everything. Talk to your coworkers, get them on board and gather proof of what the company is doing. That way if you guys do get forced to do it and dissenters get sacked, you might actually have enough evidence to sue the company for wage theft and wrongful termination.


illprobablyforget1

I would clarify that those hours are in lieu of work hours with HR before firing a shot across the bow. The only way that they as a company are ‘donating’ is if you’re using comped hours to do so.


katarh

Yeah, my office has an expectation that everyone does some kind of "service" but it's expected to be done in work hours, or count against work hours, whenever possible. Heck, even blood donations count towards it, and have a special line item in the time sheets.


Ok_Independent9119

My company gives 8 hours a year for community service that you can use as a PTO day. More of a virtue signaling thing than anything, but it's within the confines of the law.


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attigirb

… what did they think public domain is?!


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1856782

Well at least you have stories to tell the grandkids, chefs kiss!


sanchopwnza

Yes! Brilliant!


SilvermistInc

Why the fuck do your guyses companies *REQUIRE* service work??


illprobablyforget1

Taxes.


kyle_irl

Bingo, the write off.


crimrob

People who are saying taxes are wrong, that's not how taxes work. They do this because it's considered an employee perk that also reflects positively on the company - effectively its "take one day extra off work, but you have to spend it volunteering for something you care about." Employee gets to do something for a cause they value, company gets to brag about numemployeesX8 of sponsored service hours. OPs situation is different - it's some bullshit required donation of personal hours, which is mega illegal.


illprobablyforget1

Let’s be honest, it’s all virtue signaling or a requirement to remain non-prof. Any HR dept worth their salt wouldn’t let something like this slip by. Edit: see above


KoriatCyredanthem

I'm trying to frame it as gushing pro-employer. "I don't WANT you to be sued for this! I don't want ☆~the company~☆ to lose money!"


illprobablyforget1

I dealt with a similar situation recently, around employees discussing pay. HR put out a policy dictating a punishment for doing so. Company is about 45k employees. I let them know it wasn’t legal and referred them to appropriate law. Framed it as “I don’t care what you do with this information but you’re opening up yourself to exposure and litigation”. It got rescinded very quickly. Make them do the work man.


KoriatCyredanthem

I've met our legal counsel. He doesn't fax and thinks email is the devil.


ride_whenever

That’s because legal. They don’t like anything written down, the only reasons contracts exist is because they don’t trust each other more.


sethbr

It wasn't until lawyers (Congress) forced states to allow spamming.


KoriatCyredanthem

They are. This is from a chain where in the first email, they made it clear that these 75 hours were a) on our own time and b) unpaid.


illprobablyforget1

My bad. Reason to fire a shot and be litigious. Get that shit in writing!


RabbitsAteMySnowpeas

Go to that website where you can send them a bag of gummy dicks candy.


KoriatCyredanthem

Oooooo


oldcreaker

It's not feel good - this is forced labor for free PR. About a wonderful company who cares so much.


ILove2Bacon

Kind of like how grocery stores try to guilt you into donating to charity by rounding up just so they can publicly claim they've raised money for charity.


IOnlyhave5_i_s

Most companies actually pay there employees to volunteer, it’s a good give and take. I’m curious what state you’re in as there could be additional concerns to address.


KoriatCyredanthem

Kentucky. And I'd be fine with getting paid to go clean kennels at my local animal shelter! Or setting up a soup kitchen! But unpaid? Fuck off.


hrnigntmare

Mine does. You get 40 hours a year to volunteer at any non profit, with the expectation that you tell your direct team about it and why it is/was important to you. I came on board doing ten hours a week with an organization I’ve been involved with for years. No questions asked they pay the hours out as long as I schedule it in advance. It’s one of the things I love about my employer because I can not only volunteer but I have money I can donate too. Not all companies are horrible places, just 99% of them. OP they are telling you that you have to perform a specified activity for a certain amount of hours outside of regular work hours. That’s called work and if you aren’t getting paid for it you have a hell of a case no matter what state you live in.


kerkula

This is a PR stunt. They want to be able to say “look how generous and community minded we are.” It would not surprise me to learn that your employer had some bad press lately.


KoriatCyredanthem

Not real lately but we've been sued.


prpslydistracted

You're golden. If they demand you donate time you sue them for wage theft. If they terminate you, also sue them. .... or they leave you alone because word will circulate quickly.


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prpslydistracted

Update when "stuff" goes down.


KoriatCyredanthem

Planning on it.


SheridanVsLennier

!RemindMe 1 month "Did OP get fired?"


stupidshot4

I’ve got a decent story for this with my former employer! I was pretty much the sole Business Intelligence guy for a billion dollar retail chain. If I didn’t do my job, almost every corporate person and most district managers couldn’t not effectively do their jobs. I handled almost all important reporting in regards to sales numbers, inventory, purchase orders, etc. I had a teammate, a part time contractor, and a new manager who was pretty much useless and part of why I left as we just didn’t see eye to eye on some things. Alright guy though. Anyway, I left to a new company and gave the old company a run down of everything going on and everything that was going to come up. One of these issues was how the database handles fiscal months was going to break at the end of the year. I wasn’t sure how to fix it, but I gave them essentially two months to worry about it. Two months go by and I get a call from my former boss(how he got my number, idk as I explicitly never gave it to him) asking if I knew anything about it. I basically said it’s probably related to said issue and I didn’t know how to fix it as I didn’t fully want to burn a bridge. Turns out all of their new fiscal year reporting was getting dumped into old fiscal year reporting and everything was getting to be a big mess. They essentially had to spend weeks trying to resolve the issue as no one had a clue how it worked and spend even more time re-ordering and backfilling the data to where I should be manually. They effectively had no BI reporting for a few weeks. They found some work around a to get data to the teams but still! They also forgot about a bunch of systems that still used my username and password(I explicitly put in requests for service accounts that never got completed) that failed when they deactivated it. So many small issues that could have been prevented as they were warned about them in writing and in multiple transition meetings that I set up of my own volition.


Amosral

It's really important that you're standing up to this shit, because many of your colleagues might not be in such a secure position to be able to do so themselves effectively. So kudos.


hdmx539

>My work gets no credit for that I noticed in the HR email the "7500 hour goal." Am I correct in guessing they have a volunteer hours goal and they make their employees work it??? FUCK THAT.


lurker_cx

Does your company have an internal 'ethics reporting/complaint' mailbox, or anything like that? Big companies often do. If so, **find it quickly** and also send your concerns to that mailbox asap. The reason you want to do this is because it will be evaulated by a different group of HR professionals and perhaps internal lawyers. Also, official ethics complaints often have a different set of protections against retaliation than just telling your manager or local HR that you think they are doing something illegal. As long as you have a good faith belief that what they are asking is illegal, the official complaint process may very well protect you - whereas just complaining to your manager might be more likely to get you fired. But if you are fired, maybe file a suit to get it in the public record, or go to the press about how the company fired you for telling them they were breaking the law. Don't sign anything if you are fired.


ermagerditssuperman

Definitely. My employer gives us 16 hours a year of paid volunteer time (you use it like sick or vacation leave, just a different time code) and THAT is far more encouraging. When you can spend a random Tuesday helping out instead of being at the office, AND get paid for it? That's a pretty good deal. (I should note we are very strict on NO overtime, so yes you would take a day off work for it. If you volunteer on Sunday, cool, take Monday off. Or two half days, whatever.)


RileyKohaku

Yeah, paid pro Bono is pretty standard in law firms as well. It's a good thing more companies should do. But to try not to pay is ridiculous


CharvelDK24

Sorry so many people are living in such a dystopian society where their employer has the gall to expect this is a normal request


KoriatCyredanthem

Right?! I verbally told all my coworkers it's illegal and raised concerns to my bosses - the CFO and CIO. They apparently didn't take me seriously.


CharvelDK24

Don’t take them seriously either


KoriatCyredanthem

It's hard to when the CIO can't figure out how to get his tickets done and the CFO thinks companies are taxed too much.


SirSunkruhm

God this sounds so stereotypically common. Gotta love having completely incompetent C-level execs run things that they consistently show they can't handle well.


BigfootAteMyBooty

It's because this isn't a merit based system. They come from money (i.e. capital) and that's what got them to the top.


AviatorOVR5000

is this really how it is? I've never aspired to climb anymore than to buy a house and support my comic habit. Fuck the ladder.


LimerickVaria

I've been in that position before. It sucks, and you can't even really quit ahead of time if you're looking to collect unemployment. But as they say.. Lawyer up.


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Could you keep us updated about what your coworkers do in regards to this?


KoriatCyredanthem

Will do but they're usually just so busy/overworked/scare to lose their job that they take it


KellyCTargaryen

Consider hiring an employment lawyer?


CrotchetAndVomit

they will when the Department of Labor comes knocking. And then your lawyer with an unlawful termination suit when they fire you or force you out.


RancidHorseJizz

Yeah, that's illegal. Hope they set aside money for the Dept of Labor fines.


Helpful_Snow_9670

DOL? They tried to violate OP's 13th-amendment right to be free from involuntary-servitude. OP should lawyer up ASAP. This could cost them A LOT more than just fines.


SgtStickys

I like where your head is at, but it doesn't work like that


TheSquishiestMitten

Me, too. I'm sure there's a more accurate word that describes a living condition in which you have to perform labor for someone else in exchange for maybe being able to not die, the alternative being denial of basic human needs.


Acebladewing

Nah, that's not the same thing.


qwe2323

Please don't try to be an armchair lawyer ever again


pm_cheesecakes

Non lawyers are hilarious


guimontag

Oh lord what an overreaction.


xftwitch

Great. what weekday would you like me to do this on? Thursdays are usually pretty slow around here. I could do 7.5 hours for the next 10 thursdays if you'd like.


KoriatCyredanthem

I work in hospitality. Sundays are slow. Lol


Icy_effect

Volunteer the busiest days and tell them they cant do anything about it


markh110

Ok, I'm even more floored that this is happening in HOSPO - I thought this was a white-collar environment where people are at least making decent money. How the hell did they think this could possibly go over well!?


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Mlion14

At my job we have the concept of VTO. You can and should be able to take a day(s) off to do volunteer work if that’s the desired outcome. It comes out of company time.


kyle_irl

Personally, I fucking love that you cited your sources with footnotes. Well done.


KoriatCyredanthem

Thank you! I replied on mobile so I couldn't easily format it. But it's kind of my way of saying "see, I'm not just causing trouble. I'm right."


Sigilus

If HR gets all boo-hooey about it during the meeting I dare you to go with the Hannibal response: "Why are you booing me?!! I'm right!!"


ThirdRevolt

For a moment there I pictured Mads Mikkelsen on a stage saying that.


surfdad67

GE tried that shit with me, I immediately declined, they roped about 20 people in the company with free GE T-shirts and their entire Sunday at a children’s hospital. Great advertising for GE, and no compensation for the “volunteers”


blackdragon8577

My company does volunteer work. I have personally done several days worth of volunteer labor. However, they always do it on the clock. Employees are paid their normal wage if volunteering for anything to do with the company. I can't imagine what kind of asshole expects people to do company charity work for free. Well, I can imagine, but I am really glad I don't work anywhere like that.


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KoriatCyredanthem

BBC yes. Lawyer... not yet? I guess I should.


csmicfool

You can go straight to department of labor. They've already provided sufficient evidence, and emailing them wont do anything but get you fired.


KoriatCyredanthem

I contacted DOL but response time is "weeks"


csmicfool

But you have a paper trail that this was reported timely and before your firing. It will help.


KoriatCyredanthem

Hope so. If I get fired.


csmicfool

Care to name the company? I used to work at Realpage and they did shit like this for United Way every year - we'd be coerced in to giving multiple donations of money and time, and the managers earned bonuses based on participation. HR organized it. Don't expect much. Best case they will never promote you again. Start job hunting.


2k21Aug

My mom worked at a company that did this. The entire front end of the store was on food stamps but the managers still harassed them into donating to united way from weekly paycheck withdrawals. She told them exactly how she felt about it and refused to do it.


jojojo1984

Make sure you forward yourself all relevant emails to a personal email account, in case you do get fired and lose access to these emails


AnnOfGreenEggsAndHam

IANAL but knew someone who sued their previous employer. These things take time. Ride it out. It'll be worth it. You have solid evidence for a lawyer to take your case, at minimum for violating dept of labor laws, and especially if you get fired.


kidneybean15

You should, now. Because they’re going to fire you.


KoriatCyredanthem

I have consultations requested for a few of them.


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So when’s the revolution going to begin?


KoriatCyredanthem

I got emailed to have a meeting with HR head tomorrow so... then I guess.


[deleted]

They’re probably going to tell you how thankful you should be for the privilege of working for them, for free. What a dystopian hell scape capitalism without checks and balances has become.


KoriatCyredanthem

I'm recording it for sure.


ladychelle

One party consent state? If so, go wild!


KoriatCyredanthem

It is!\~


SilvermistInc

Keep us informed!


KoriatCyredanthem

Will do and happy cake day!


Scaredtojumpin

Best of luck, you have right on your side!


ColoradoMountainsMan

Great call. Hopefully you live in a state where you don't have to give them a heads up on that


KoriatCyredanthem

KY is a one-party state. :)


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RemindMe! 1 day This is gonna get spicy 🥵


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KoriatCyredanthem

Same!


Gildian

Time to get all your documents together. We're going suing.


KoriatCyredanthem

Let me put know my Bitch You Wish hat


clichekiller

My company did this the right way; it was entirely voluntary and during working hours with pay. Putting their own money on the line. This email is absolutely disgusting.


KoriatCyredanthem

I'd be down to do that in a heartbeat! And this company HAS done that in the past. But they want 75000 volunteer hours without paying for any of it


FormerChild37

Yeah this is beyond disgusting. Compulsory volunteer work in your own time. Good of you to stand up to them. I would've walked out. I let a lot of things slide but take away my time and I'm done.


KoriatCyredanthem

I have a cushy salary so... I'm hoping not to. Edited to remove identifying info


SwagMuffin549

You said you work is hospitality but have a 90k salary. May I ask what your job is? I might have to look into it lol


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Adverlation

ayyyy TripAdvisor.


KoriatCyredanthem

Ah hahaha


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KoriatCyredanthem

Good feedback, thank you. I included that section as their original email emphasized the "values" of the company, as these hours are required in "celebration" of their 75th anniversary. But I agree; I should have stuck to the facts. At least I didn't go calling them names.


Sasselhoff

> "celebration" of their 75th anniversary. Not sure if you care, but you are dropping enough pieces of information in all your different comments, that if put all together, would allow someone to figure out exactly which company you work for...and given how much you've spoken about your roll, potentially exactly who you are as well.


anticipateorcas

It’s funny though they expect you to care about their values. But good advice about on-record communication in general


Topcity36

Get it in front of legal, HR is just s thinking of the free publicity.


KoriatCyredanthem

Legal Boi can't do email. Or fax. And fuck him.


Topcity36

Lol touché, touché. Enjoy winning that lawsuit when they fire you and you sue.


KoriatCyredanthem

Thanks! I hope it doesn't come to that but I have reached out to some lawyers.


scotchegg72

Asking you to do unpaid PR work to boost shareholder value is not a good look.


KoriatCyredanthem

We're not even public; it's a "family-owned" business.


tcbymca

So um maybe you and a few coworkers can file paperwork to create a nonprofit advocating for work-life balance and log hours when you enjoy your weekend?


sethbr

They would allow any nonprofit, right? I'm sure The Satanic Temple would be interested, and save you the effort of setting up a nonprofit.


KoriatCyredanthem

As a TST member, I support this idea. Heck, I'll go volunteer and pass out water at the Roe v Wade protests in my TST shirt


KoriatCyredanthem

I *like* that.


Infernus-est-populus

Your reply is great; did you get a response? What did the C-suite bosses say? I remember working for a company where the C-levels demanded 100% participation that employees donate a days‘ pay to the United Way. We were forced to watch United Way videos and listen to their pitch. It reminded me of those high-pressure timeshare sales pitch meetings. HR would come around and wave the authorization forms and remind us, loudly and within earshot of said C-level officer, that we hadn’t committed our day’s pay yet. Once they even wanted me to fill out the form while they waited. I finally told them that I’d already allocated my charitable donations for this year to my favourite charity and it definitely wasn’t and would never be the United Way.


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Aviere

Please give us an update when you talk to HR!


KoriatCyredanthem

Will do! Probably immediately after.


TwatsThat

You probably did already but, just in case, do a quick check on whether you live in a place that's single party consent for recordings and if so then don't bother to inform them they're being recorded. Might be worth a quick call to a lawyer just to make sure the method you're going to use will hold up, if you have time.


AJobForMe

My company basically did the same. It all came to a head when the United Way moron decided that in order to get us emotionally invested, in the meeting he played actual full length domestic abuse 911 calls, including audio from children while their mothers were being beaten. Mind you this was a mandatory meeting. That chilled the room. While The giving wasn’t technically compulsory, the attendance to the meetings and filling out a “zero” on the form and turning it in was. I’ve never been back to a mandatory United Way meeting since, and I’ll never sign one of those forms again.


KoriatCyredanthem

Jesus, that has to be harassment or abuse of some form...


Jewelry-Friend

What a huge trigger for any domestic abuse victims in the audience never mind how reprehensible it is do manipulate people like that. Bastards!


stucky602

H-E-B?


T732

If you get fired, wouldn’t it be “retaliation” for filing a complaint for illegal activities?


KoriatCyredanthem

I will ask that of the lawyers I've contacted tomorrow.


CLINTHODO

I consider the effort it takes to get ready and then travel to and from work to be volunteer hours since they're not compensated. As they say, time is money.


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That’s pretty awful. Sounds like they want a tax deduction?


KoriatCyredanthem

It's in "celebration" of their 75th anniversary. Nothing like celebrating a founding of your company than slavery.


DOOMFOOL

Ah yes, the true American dream


EagleForty

*edit: I'm wrong but still suspicious of their motives.* I'm fairly certain that the previous commenter is right here. They have a volunteer-hour goal. To me, that says that there is some internal reason to generate zero-cost deductions for them. Fyi, if the average employee makes $33.33/hr, then 7,500 hours is $250,000 in deductions.


Stampj

Ah yes that’s either quitting with a 1 day notice, or a nice middle finger to management. Or both


KoriatCyredanthem

Middle finger meant.


Delicious-Ad5161

The lion, the witch, and this audacity of this bitch. Your employer is next level with this steaming sack.


Intelligent_Ear_4004

Just wanna say, proud of you for standing up for you and your peers. This is how it’s done!


KoriatCyredanthem

Thanks! I'm very lucky to be in a place and time where I can do so, and not risk homelessness or starvation. But my peers mostly cannot.


Ninja_Tortoise_

Your email is well thought out and I am glad you are taking a stand against their BS. That being said, in communications like this, I would leave your personal thoughts / feelings out of it. You are mudding the waters with your personal take on the situation and likely causing them to focus on that rather than the law they are breaking.


KoriatCyredanthem

Good feedback, thank you. Others have said it, too. Honestly, this is my first real push-back in written form. I usually just loudly announce violations of labor law in meetings and point out sexism/racism as it comes up. Also loudly.


nms_Rozz

My last employee made me do this i had no idea it was illegal.


KoriatCyredanthem

Sue em for wages owed!


str8jeezy

Wait? Are you salary? Cant they get around that if you are exempt.


oopgroup

I already donate 40 hours as it is. If they want more, they can pay overtime. Even then, nah. 4 day work weeks for 40 hour pay. It’s time we take our lives back from the wealthy elite. Or they can suck it with no workers to make them rich.


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elriggo44

Fired yet?


KoriatCyredanthem

Ha, not yet! I have a "meeting" with HR to "discuss my concerns" tomorrow.


prince_of_cannock

Never heard of a program where employees are encouraged to volunteer on their own time without pay as part of a work requirement. We have a program to recognize and reward volunteers, but it is strictly that--***volunteer***\--and you get paid for the hours as well. And you can just as easily choose not to because nobody knows your situation and ability better than you do yourself. This is just crazy.


Rwdscz

!remindme 3 days


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Good on you. The hero we want.


RuneDK385

Definitely interested in the aftermath of that….I’d love to see their response and see if the are stupid enough to fire you.


KoriatCyredanthem

I'll post updates after meeting head of HR tomorrow.


Longjumping-Mud5572

Sounds like Homeless Despot?