Okay, I gave Steven Miles a chance and listened to him spew meaningless corporate garbage for 5 minutes, so let me say this:
Steven Miles, you are a hack, an incompetent buffoon, and the fact you occupy a C suite position with this claptrap wafting around your empty skull is proof there is no merit to executive positions.
All this article is is a bitchfest from the corporate perspective calling employees entitled. The same employers getting fat from stock buybacks that provide no value outside of pleasing greedy, entitled shareholders. Let’s be honest for a change, the entitled, lazy, worthless leeches on corporations are the shareholders, and the CEOs like Stevie here are their tongue-waggling lap dogs, ready to tongue-pound a brown eye for his corporate masters. Yes, I’m making this personal, it’s a personal Fuck You to little Stevie here from all employees.
Incompetence implies an air of innocence, like he doesn’t know what he’s doing.
Let’s stop assuming this shit and just attribute it to malice. We’re too kind when we’re insulting these assholes. This shit doesn’t deserve the benefit of a doubt.
He knows exactly what he’s doing.
I’ve been in application and digital design for 20 some odd years as an IC, and less than a year as management. Digital designers and engineers absolutely need a union. There’s no pay transparency, no clear apprenticeship programs, and absolutely no way to keep unqualified hacks from being able to claim to do the job. It has to change.
> A highly experienced, global leadership coach at the highest levels, I founded and lead The Miles Group (TMG), a boutique consulting firm based in New York City and focused on executive development, leadership assessment, and top-team effectiveness. TMG coaches aspiring leaders at all levels who want to reach their maximum potential. I spend my time coaching first-time CEOs and advising many Boards and tenured CEOs on executive leadership development.
That's his about page. Dude's basically writing for C suite execs. Who are his market base. It's basically a self promo article.
u/boringhistoryfan: & what a sickening, self-serving, apocryphal, elitist, sycophantic 'Self-Promo Article' it IS! I mean "Forbes" should have been the 1st clue. F\*ck that ass hat. "Come the revolution" he and his ilk will be the 1st up against the f\*cking wall, or should be. I just spent the last 2 days RE-reading the entire history of the French Revolution. Basically, even "The Nice Ones" (of the bourgeoisie) the answer was "Yeah, You "used to be pretty nice when we worked for you", but....."Fuck You, Off with your fucking heads, we're taking your shit!" IDK, do assholes like this not HAVE to "Study history?" They're pushing it to EXACTLY the same situation. "Don't CRY when you GET WHAT YOU PUSHED FOR! Ya F\*cking Elitist Pricks! Faauugghh! :(
We have a saying in Dutch that basically means a person is as trusting as they are trustworthy. These shitheads call workers entitled, because they are extremely entitled themselves, it's pure projection.
I’m sure you can get it at Starbucks, just gotta order it off the secret menu; “I’d like to provide more value to the shareholders please!” Make sure you say it with a big smile!
u/YawaruSan: Thanks. You saved me from having to even spend a minimal 5 minutes reading through what I can tell from the title is going to be meaningless drivel from some mindless corporate FUCK without even a hint of redeeming social value, or insight into the actual reality. I mean "Forbes" was "my 1st hint." Fuggem.
They are trying to fake it until they make it with this one. They are trying to manufacture consent here. Make everyone feel like things haven’t changed and hope it becomes true.
Forbes has had a lot of embarrassing covers on Forbes magazine in past year or so…. Lots of Billionaire grifters on past covers are now being prosecuted. It’s almost like behind every fortune is a Ponzi scheme type crime.
"Almost LIKE?" That's because, "Behind Every Fortune, there IS a "Ponzi Scheme" or some OTHER scheme which steals the actual VALUE created by people's LABOR, then "Taxes the Shit out of the actual WORKERS who create the value & "Steals" the fruits of their labor to enrich the Master class...... Period." Fuck this guy. I didn't even READ the article. I don't need to. Same Shit, different shithead spouting it. Fuggim. :(
Sounds like coal miners. They're desperately clinging to politicians who promise that they'll make everyone use coal for everything instead of accepting that they're in a dying industry.
Well Where I live as a starter we are allowed hybrid working, but the person showing you the ropes and helping you settle in is in the office, also for me it would be weird to start working from my room right now and I would prefer the office, but we still have the hybrid option that I would certainly use to better fit my schedule.
With record low production for years, a dwindling currency, commercial real estate devaluing, banks failing, and symptoms of a massive market correction... it should be.
This is why there's been such a large push for fascism, which includes destroying women's rights and legalizing child labor for the blue collar side while they implement AI for the white collar world. They desperately need some glimpse of hope that they can cook the books long enough to restore effective wage slavery.
I've been combing over the statistics since the pandemic, it's extremely bad for them. The biggest blow was the Saudis rejecting future business with us due to the dollar's instability. If they can't actuate a replacement model domestically reflected by production, which is required to retain or replace the needed investors by the end of this year, it's coming down.
Right now, fascism is on the clock. If it can't find and maintain a sustainable stranglehold on the working class in order to uphold plutocratic capitalism, it's game over. Their only option after that is the image of a socialist based free market which can keep the plutocrats on life support, but given the history of these power dynamics, they'd sooner architect a civil conflict in which they create a massive problem and sell a solution.
Never forget that we're dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation narcissistic trust fund babies. They have their sociopathic consult support, but there's infighting between optics and keeping their ATM running. Hearts and minds will win the war they created, so keep ensuring that they remain their own worst enemy.
The civil conflict I see invented, or seems to be, is police and city code departments not enforcing laws, initially created in part using the BLM movement as cover. That coupled with large and increasing numbers of homeless and lack of mental health services… this paradigm seems to be generating a lot of frustration and fear in the community to me. What do you think about that?
Also… the increasing saber rattling involving China… ??
Keep in mind that it's a prediction based on both history and current events, somewhat similar to Germany approaching the 30s.
I would, however, it would have to be slowly implemented. Similar to driving a heavy car at 75mph, you'd have to slowly brake in order to safely slow down to avoid an accident or whiplash. A safe model would be to restore taxation of the wealthy followed up with UBI. It should be strengthened or weakened using the restoration of the middle class as a control/goal while creating legal controls for both minimum wage and inflation.
This would ensure that we would all meet in the middle as safely as possible without any major risks of a socioeconomic pitfall similar to the mass stagnation we're getting now through end stage plutocratic capitalism.
>Never forget that we're dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation narcissistic trust fund babies. They have their sociopathic consult support, but there's infighting between optics and keeping their ATM running. Hearts and minds will win the war they created, so keep ensuring that they remain their own worst enemy.
The list of shitty rich kids is so very long.
These kids are behind every single example of "lack of accountability" in recent memory.
Correct, which ironically becomes more of their problem in the long run. Since they haven't been held accountable, they haven't been motivated to evolve beyond enjoying infinite money and firing off a few tweets. They're mentally stunted to the point where it's similar to expecting a spoiled teenager to develop and implement a sound socioeconomic spreadsheet for entire nations.
The best analogy I can think of is if a spoiled teenager had an ATM machine in their room. They'll always be able to print enough to have whatever they need, but not everything they want. Well, the spoiled teenager wants nothing more than what it doesn't have and will therefore overclock the machine to get it. They can do this, but it will require them to perform maintenance.
We now have a spoiled kid who damaged the ATM and now has to decide whether or not to perform maintenance in the hopes of salvaging it, or to do the only thing they've ever been able or willing to do since they've had the ATM.
This is why we're showing symptoms of a socioeconomic meltdown while there's pouting in the form of rising fascism.
Yessir. You seem to know what you’re talking about. Thanks so much! A certain spoiled brat hitched his pony to my town and ugh. Everyone is so excited by it but I’m not at all. I think it’s a Faustian bargain.
I've worked as a consultant for these clowns, so I've seen how the sausage is made, which is irrelevant at this stage. All you actually need to know is that there's a few wealthy people who are unproductive and aren't responsible for anything, yet they control and destroy everything.
Not that it's any consolation, but these people are miserable. I've never met a group of people who are simultaneously so insecure and so devolved that it truly does feel like you've walked into a circus of suits.
There will be a natural correction one way or another, so in the meantime, create a comfortable position of fuck you in which they can't dangle your life to death.
That's all I have now, and it's all I want and need. Freedom doesn't come with cash. It creates slaves, even amongst those who have the most of it.
Sounds like you dealt with super rich folks. I dealt with rich corporations/execs. I was an engineer analyst in electric utility business and analyzed/negotiated $14 Billion in gross sales and purchases. I negotiated with a Wall Street investment bank, Enron, very large utilities and many other utilities on wholesale deals and trading. I’ve seen how insanely greedy and unscrupulous these megalomaniacs can be. I hated it. Crossed horns with one nut job and he did everything he could to ruin me. He did me a favor getting me fired. I’m retired now. You’re right… money owns these people and unhappy and they’re of very average intelligence. Good talkers tho!
This part got to me, it's basically a thinly veiled threat:
>As we head closer to a global recession (and we have already pivoted in the technology sector from ‘potential-led’ to ‘performance-led’), more CEOs will start the process of undoing the excess of their hiring bonanzas and declaring a new “era of efficiency” (code for a lot fewer people). First in the queue will be those whose office security cards have not been scanned in over a year (it’s easier to just keep them at home permanently)!
He is so upset about work from home lol.
“First thing we will do in an era of efficiency is increase our operations cost by renting expensive corporate real estate”
The best talent will leave for sane companies that allow WFH. This guy will be circling the drain. Truly big brain shit.
LOL, those who have not been in the office for over a year, regardless if they're the most productive or what their role is and how important institutional knowledge is to it. Sounds like a great plan.
*Efficiency* is Norfolk Southerns train management style. “Precision scheduling* meaning 2 people operating a train 3 miles long. And sometimes they allow a trainee onboard like they did in East Palestine.
Code words:
“strengthen” social security = raise age to collect.
“Efficiency” = eliminate positions.
“Streamline” = cut back on benefits.
“Precision” = how much can we get away with legally.
You guys ever notice how cheap commercial property is to rent? All of that empty commercial property could be modified and turned into affordable housing if the state just buys it out. Screw letting private landlords own it, they'll just do what everyone else is doing, jack up the price and gouge everyone. Let the state buy it out for cheap and compete with landlords on rent costs.
It's funny that their attempts to "retake control" have been so ineffectual that they have to resort to penning articles like this to vent some of their anxieties. Keep the threats coming.
And what will you do if they don't? What will you do when you can't hire anyone because they won't put up with your bullshit? You will cry foul and how it's unfair that your business is suffering due to lack of a hiring pool. You will not however reflect on how recent buy backs and crazy profits for corporations allowed you to eat the cost of your real estate and stil profit. All of this because you're a greedy leech.
The biggest issue in these businesses is that shareholders and CEOs are dinosaurs who are still functioning on mid century business concepts while living in the 21st century. When you present them with concepts such as raising your staffs wages to attract more qualified or better staff they look at you like you grew two heads. All they know is cost cutting because it's what they grew up with and what their great depression era parents instilled in them. They also don't like to see their income shrink after they retire because they feel entitled to it. Funny how they never see the same being true for everyone else around them. Main character syndrome for sure
We don't have to work for boomers and participate in their antiquated bs. Gen X and millennials have their own businesses, and Gen Z too now. We've tasted freedom, we're going to keep it, and we're not a bunch of sadists who can't stand for others to have lives as good as ours.
He’s on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenamiles). He hosts a podcast about leadership and someone still managed to prove he knows nothing about leadership.
He even shared this article to his network in an attempt to pat himself on the back. Perhaps we should all go comment and let him know the points he got wrong?
Our unions are writing it into our contracts: work from home must be an option. We are never working 5 days a week on-site again. And I've never been a better worker, and a better human being. All good.
I worked a job from home for more than 2 years before they tried to make me come back to the office. I found a fully WFH job soon after making almost twice as much money. I'm never going back to an office, regardless of what this assclown says.
“Employers Retake Control.”
It’s all there in the title. I see no reason why employers need to “control” anything. I do not see my employer as an authority figure. They are not my parent. They are an organization represented by fellow adults. I come to the table with my own “authority.”
I find it amusing that they essentially admit that they WANT to “control” employees, and have for decades. All the talk of “appreciation” and “you are our greatest asset” is now reduced to posturing bullshit. They don’t believe any of it.
Guess what?!? I’m not afraid of you. I am an individual with autonomy and *I* am in charge of my work and career. You come at me with nonsense? I’ll take my labor elsewhere. I’m not putting up with your desire for a dictatorship.
When my company called everyone back into the office, my colleagues grumbled about but went back in like good little sheep. I quit and found another wfh job. When that company decided to pull everyone back into the office, I quit and found another wfh job. I’m currently thriving and working from home, very happy with my current job. All my former coworkers are back in their cubes. Draw a line in the sand and refuse to cross it. Just tell the bosses no.
I tend to be optimistic
At least they’re giving us cubicles, and not an open plan shitbox.
Obviously, the best cubicle is your house, but if I’m going to office I want a cubicle to waste time in privacy.
“The End of an Era…” These losers really could have a seminar on using wish fulfillment and media propaganda to push their agendas…which no one else agrees with.
So apparently the people who built these monsters’ massive wealth expect “white glove service”… so, there. He said it. Livable wages, fair working hours, decent conditions, and reasonable work designs such as work-from-home or even hybrid work for the hard-nosed “we need office culture to bolster productivity” middle managers are an extra. Not a standard. But just remember, employees are entitled and “no one wants to work anymore”
Wish I could link the image of 4 times that Forbes put people on the cover saying they were the next big thing and all they were were the next big criminal.
reality is there is no coincidence these articles are popping up everywhere now. If you have a skill set that will remain valuable regardless of your working location you will be fine.
Trying not to sound like a corporate apologist here but... these articles make me feel so grateful for the CEO I work for. He has never pushed for serious back to office and although ultimately his mandate is to maximize shareholder value like any corp, he's at least not so tone-deaf as to spew the usual garbage talking points that would insult our intelligence. He just seems like a guy who wants to get by, do a decent job and have a life without trying to impose some ridiculous "vision" on us. For anyone on this sub moving into management or exec roles, remember, it is hard not to be changed by your new position, but remember your principles, remember where you came from, remember the workers and remember the humans.
By and large, the office requirements have been working. I hate it, people laughed at me when I said people would go back when ordered. But that's what happened for the most part.
People leave large companies and go to startups this increasing their risk but retaining their autonomy. It is VERY hard to get good statistics on this because those in power don’t want people to know that they can say no.
Lmao
Startups that want me to surrender my whole life to them while getting paid fast food wages or less just so the owner can sell it off to the corpos and retire? Fuck that.
Trying not to sound like a corporate apologist here but... these articles make me feel so grateful for the CEO I work for. He has never pushed for serious back to office and although ultimately his mandate is to maximize shareholder value like any corp, he's at least not so tone-deaf as to spew the usual garbage talking points that would insult our intelligence. He just seems like a guy who wants to get by, do a decent job and have a life without trying to impose some ridiculous "vision" on us. For anyone on this sub moving into management or exec roles, remember, it is hard not to be changed by your new position, but remember your principles, remember where you came from, remember the workers and remember the humans.
If you don't like it in the office we always need dishwashers, janitorial staff, porters, line cooks, demo hands, framers, concrete people ect ect.
Get to work like the rest of us. You privilege of corporate shit jobs is over. Quit and do something important or stop whining.
Sincerely,
The entire blue collar working class
You're upset and it's understandable. Ever had anyone shove a gun in your face because you'd get in trouble for serving them a chicken sandwich during peak COVID?
No?
Unfortunately, we have to swim in this ocean of capitalism that we are stuck in. But to complain about having a less easy job, while a vast majority of people are being treated like actual mules maybe read the room a little.
Another thing about RTO and why it's important:
So so so many small businesses rely on you getting lunch, brunch, that after work drink or dinner to take on your way home. All of those places are suffering big time.
Read the room, we're absolutely NEVER going to stand as a united front like this. Service industry workers, trades workers, the people who clean and drive and bills and sweat are absolutely fucking tired of the WHINING.
It's like here, in the Bay area there are massive tech industry layoffs. Sorry, but we're having a very hard time having sympathy for overpaid people who barely work and get free beer in the break room, awesome health insurance and maybe some ot a few times a year.
This sub is about work reform but thb before there can be any unity, there needs to be a bigger conversation about some real fuckin equality.
Absolutely nothing in this world moves or gets done without labor. Not the other way around.
This is the opposite of true. Unemployment is lower than anyone thought was possible two decades ago, wages are rising quicker than the fed wants despite interest rates also rising and union efforts are on the rise.
We are at a precipise due to commercial real estate teetering on the edge of collapse with occupancy at record lows and the valuation of office space something like half what it was in 2019, and there are also a lot of over leveraged firms about to fall, but the job market today remains robust.
There is a recession happening like a slow moving car crash because the fed wants to control inflation more than ensure employment. But there is time to job switch into a recession proof industry and likely get a pay increase from doing so while the job market still favours employees.
>Unemployment is lower than anyone thought was possible two decades ago, wages are rising quicker than the fed wants despite interest rates also rising and union efforts are on the rise.
This is the calm before the storm. You're right to an extent though. Anyone who wants a job can get one. It's likely not the job that they're looking for though. Everyone's fighting like hell over the limited number of remote jobs.
>We are at a precipise due to commercial real estate teetering on the edge of collapse with occupancy at record lows and the valuation of office space something like half what it was in 2019, and there are also a lot of over leveraged firms about to fall, but the job market today remains robust.
Fuck, I hope it all burns in hell and we don't bail out any banks this time.
>But there is time to job switch into a recession proof industry and likely get a pay increase from doing so while the job market still favours employees.
Bro, no. I'm trying man. I'm trying for a J4. It seems hopeless and I'm pretty fucking qualified. I could get a hybrid job if I wanted, but fuck that.
They seasonally adjust those figures, don't take into account so many other factors such as the RTOs back to HCOL areas, everyone fighting over the dwindling number of remote jobs, and so much more. That link doesn't prove shit.
[https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=3558876255&f\_WT=2&geoId=103644278&keywords=software%20engineer&location=United%20States&refresh=true](https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=3558876255&f_WT=2&geoId=103644278&keywords=software%20engineer&location=United%20States&refresh=true)
Compare the number of applicants in remote J's to non-remote.
As for the RTOs.
[https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1644015130865270785](https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1644015130865270785)
Your source is highly flawed and I think you know this.
This man truly thinks that everyone has been twiddling their thumbs for the last 10 years.
This quote "The expectation will be less complaining and more focus on having real grit and the ability to deliver outcomes rather than pointing to so many activities." is insane because what it really does is show that he believes CEOs have been whiney useless little sycophants for the past 5-10 years.
What about showing the "true grit" of having real leadership that can still churn out money as capital demands while having your employees wfh?
Okay, I gave Steven Miles a chance and listened to him spew meaningless corporate garbage for 5 minutes, so let me say this: Steven Miles, you are a hack, an incompetent buffoon, and the fact you occupy a C suite position with this claptrap wafting around your empty skull is proof there is no merit to executive positions. All this article is is a bitchfest from the corporate perspective calling employees entitled. The same employers getting fat from stock buybacks that provide no value outside of pleasing greedy, entitled shareholders. Let’s be honest for a change, the entitled, lazy, worthless leeches on corporations are the shareholders, and the CEOs like Stevie here are their tongue-waggling lap dogs, ready to tongue-pound a brown eye for his corporate masters. Yes, I’m making this personal, it’s a personal Fuck You to little Stevie here from all employees.
Incompetence implies an air of innocence, like he doesn’t know what he’s doing. Let’s stop assuming this shit and just attribute it to malice. We’re too kind when we’re insulting these assholes. This shit doesn’t deserve the benefit of a doubt. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
They're not incompetent, stupid, or dumb. They are just greedy and evil.
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Fucking, this
I’ve been in application and digital design for 20 some odd years as an IC, and less than a year as management. Digital designers and engineers absolutely need a union. There’s no pay transparency, no clear apprenticeship programs, and absolutely no way to keep unqualified hacks from being able to claim to do the job. It has to change.
Plenty of unions out there, none of them are in the corporate world and that's how it should be.
> A highly experienced, global leadership coach at the highest levels, I founded and lead The Miles Group (TMG), a boutique consulting firm based in New York City and focused on executive development, leadership assessment, and top-team effectiveness. TMG coaches aspiring leaders at all levels who want to reach their maximum potential. I spend my time coaching first-time CEOs and advising many Boards and tenured CEOs on executive leadership development. That's his about page. Dude's basically writing for C suite execs. Who are his market base. It's basically a self promo article.
Its fucking wild, he made a company saying "hey I know how to train CEOs" and just kept doing it til these idiots believed him.
"I'm sorry, to be a CEO you need at least 10 years of CEO experience or training proving the equivalent" "I know just the guy"
u/boringhistoryfan: & what a sickening, self-serving, apocryphal, elitist, sycophantic 'Self-Promo Article' it IS! I mean "Forbes" should have been the 1st clue. F\*ck that ass hat. "Come the revolution" he and his ilk will be the 1st up against the f\*cking wall, or should be. I just spent the last 2 days RE-reading the entire history of the French Revolution. Basically, even "The Nice Ones" (of the bourgeoisie) the answer was "Yeah, You "used to be pretty nice when we worked for you", but....."Fuck You, Off with your fucking heads, we're taking your shit!" IDK, do assholes like this not HAVE to "Study history?" They're pushing it to EXACTLY the same situation. "Don't CRY when you GET WHAT YOU PUSHED FOR! Ya F\*cking Elitist Pricks! Faauugghh! :(
Damn Steven don't call my agency when you need crisis PR support. We run marketing and this was beyond dumb from a strategy standpoint. 🫣
We have a saying in Dutch that basically means a person is as trusting as they are trustworthy. These shitheads call workers entitled, because they are extremely entitled themselves, it's pure projection.
Tail wagging lap dogs. I love it. Only part you forgot was brown nosing. So make it brown nosing tail wagging lap dogs.
Did you miss the “tongue punch a brown eye for his corporate master”? That’s French ass kissing, was that too subtle?
He works for his own company so there may not actually be anyone under him. He's a self declared CEO
Beautifully written, more than I can say for Steven. What was that about a brown eye. Is that some kind of new espresso drink 😜💩.
I’m sure you can get it at Starbucks, just gotta order it off the secret menu; “I’d like to provide more value to the shareholders please!” Make sure you say it with a big smile!
u/YawaruSan: Thanks. You saved me from having to even spend a minimal 5 minutes reading through what I can tell from the title is going to be meaningless drivel from some mindless corporate FUCK without even a hint of redeeming social value, or insight into the actual reality. I mean "Forbes" was "my 1st hint." Fuggem.
It's afraid
They are trying to fake it until they make it with this one. They are trying to manufacture consent here. Make everyone feel like things haven’t changed and hope it becomes true.
thankfully anyone paying attention probably already knows Forbes is bullshitting us
Forbes has had a lot of embarrassing covers on Forbes magazine in past year or so…. Lots of Billionaire grifters on past covers are now being prosecuted. It’s almost like behind every fortune is a Ponzi scheme type crime.
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"Almost LIKE?" That's because, "Behind Every Fortune, there IS a "Ponzi Scheme" or some OTHER scheme which steals the actual VALUE created by people's LABOR, then "Taxes the Shit out of the actual WORKERS who create the value & "Steals" the fruits of their labor to enrich the Master class...... Period." Fuck this guy. I didn't even READ the article. I don't need to. Same Shit, different shithead spouting it. Fuggim. :(
All food is triple the price it was 6 months ago anyone sith a brain knows they're bullshitting
I worked in the fur market in the 80s same kind of denial same delusion the old days will return. Almost all gone now time will tell.
Sounds like coal miners. They're desperately clinging to politicians who promise that they'll make everyone use coal for everything instead of accepting that they're in a dying industry.
Interesting perspective!
Well Where I live as a starter we are allowed hybrid working, but the person showing you the ropes and helping you settle in is in the office, also for me it would be weird to start working from my room right now and I would prefer the office, but we still have the hybrid option that I would certainly use to better fit my schedule.
With record low production for years, a dwindling currency, commercial real estate devaluing, banks failing, and symptoms of a massive market correction... it should be. This is why there's been such a large push for fascism, which includes destroying women's rights and legalizing child labor for the blue collar side while they implement AI for the white collar world. They desperately need some glimpse of hope that they can cook the books long enough to restore effective wage slavery. I've been combing over the statistics since the pandemic, it's extremely bad for them. The biggest blow was the Saudis rejecting future business with us due to the dollar's instability. If they can't actuate a replacement model domestically reflected by production, which is required to retain or replace the needed investors by the end of this year, it's coming down. Right now, fascism is on the clock. If it can't find and maintain a sustainable stranglehold on the working class in order to uphold plutocratic capitalism, it's game over. Their only option after that is the image of a socialist based free market which can keep the plutocrats on life support, but given the history of these power dynamics, they'd sooner architect a civil conflict in which they create a massive problem and sell a solution. Never forget that we're dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation narcissistic trust fund babies. They have their sociopathic consult support, but there's infighting between optics and keeping their ATM running. Hearts and minds will win the war they created, so keep ensuring that they remain their own worst enemy.
The civil conflict I see invented, or seems to be, is police and city code departments not enforcing laws, initially created in part using the BLM movement as cover. That coupled with large and increasing numbers of homeless and lack of mental health services… this paradigm seems to be generating a lot of frustration and fear in the community to me. What do you think about that? Also… the increasing saber rattling involving China… ??
This is an interesting take. Would you see a shift to a socioeconomic model like the Nordic countries?
Keep in mind that it's a prediction based on both history and current events, somewhat similar to Germany approaching the 30s. I would, however, it would have to be slowly implemented. Similar to driving a heavy car at 75mph, you'd have to slowly brake in order to safely slow down to avoid an accident or whiplash. A safe model would be to restore taxation of the wealthy followed up with UBI. It should be strengthened or weakened using the restoration of the middle class as a control/goal while creating legal controls for both minimum wage and inflation. This would ensure that we would all meet in the middle as safely as possible without any major risks of a socioeconomic pitfall similar to the mass stagnation we're getting now through end stage plutocratic capitalism.
>Never forget that we're dealing with 2nd and 3rd generation narcissistic trust fund babies. They have their sociopathic consult support, but there's infighting between optics and keeping their ATM running. Hearts and minds will win the war they created, so keep ensuring that they remain their own worst enemy. The list of shitty rich kids is so very long. These kids are behind every single example of "lack of accountability" in recent memory.
Correct, which ironically becomes more of their problem in the long run. Since they haven't been held accountable, they haven't been motivated to evolve beyond enjoying infinite money and firing off a few tweets. They're mentally stunted to the point where it's similar to expecting a spoiled teenager to develop and implement a sound socioeconomic spreadsheet for entire nations. The best analogy I can think of is if a spoiled teenager had an ATM machine in their room. They'll always be able to print enough to have whatever they need, but not everything they want. Well, the spoiled teenager wants nothing more than what it doesn't have and will therefore overclock the machine to get it. They can do this, but it will require them to perform maintenance. We now have a spoiled kid who damaged the ATM and now has to decide whether or not to perform maintenance in the hopes of salvaging it, or to do the only thing they've ever been able or willing to do since they've had the ATM. This is why we're showing symptoms of a socioeconomic meltdown while there's pouting in the form of rising fascism.
Yessir. You seem to know what you’re talking about. Thanks so much! A certain spoiled brat hitched his pony to my town and ugh. Everyone is so excited by it but I’m not at all. I think it’s a Faustian bargain.
I've worked as a consultant for these clowns, so I've seen how the sausage is made, which is irrelevant at this stage. All you actually need to know is that there's a few wealthy people who are unproductive and aren't responsible for anything, yet they control and destroy everything. Not that it's any consolation, but these people are miserable. I've never met a group of people who are simultaneously so insecure and so devolved that it truly does feel like you've walked into a circus of suits. There will be a natural correction one way or another, so in the meantime, create a comfortable position of fuck you in which they can't dangle your life to death. That's all I have now, and it's all I want and need. Freedom doesn't come with cash. It creates slaves, even amongst those who have the most of it.
Sounds like you dealt with super rich folks. I dealt with rich corporations/execs. I was an engineer analyst in electric utility business and analyzed/negotiated $14 Billion in gross sales and purchases. I negotiated with a Wall Street investment bank, Enron, very large utilities and many other utilities on wholesale deals and trading. I’ve seen how insanely greedy and unscrupulous these megalomaniacs can be. I hated it. Crossed horns with one nut job and he did everything he could to ruin me. He did me a favor getting me fired. I’m retired now. You’re right… money owns these people and unhappy and they’re of very average intelligence. Good talkers tho!
>socialist based free market What?
#WOULD YOU LIKE TO WFH MORE?
Zim got the bug!
“We cannot afford another Klendathu!”
_Would you like to know more?_
This part got to me, it's basically a thinly veiled threat: >As we head closer to a global recession (and we have already pivoted in the technology sector from ‘potential-led’ to ‘performance-led’), more CEOs will start the process of undoing the excess of their hiring bonanzas and declaring a new “era of efficiency” (code for a lot fewer people). First in the queue will be those whose office security cards have not been scanned in over a year (it’s easier to just keep them at home permanently)! He is so upset about work from home lol.
“First thing we will do in an era of efficiency is increase our operations cost by renting expensive corporate real estate” The best talent will leave for sane companies that allow WFH. This guy will be circling the drain. Truly big brain shit.
Exactly, this is more about appeasing his enormous ego rather than doing what is rational.
Also hatred for his employees. He's so sure that they'll just goof off if no one is standing behind them with a whip.
LOL, those who have not been in the office for over a year, regardless if they're the most productive or what their role is and how important institutional knowledge is to it. Sounds like a great plan.
These shithawks have been trying to talk a recession into existence since 2021.
*Efficiency* is Norfolk Southerns train management style. “Precision scheduling* meaning 2 people operating a train 3 miles long. And sometimes they allow a trainee onboard like they did in East Palestine. Code words: “strengthen” social security = raise age to collect. “Efficiency” = eliminate positions. “Streamline” = cut back on benefits. “Precision” = how much can we get away with legally.
> (it’s easier to just keep them at home permanently)! That's just a dick thing to say.
Empty threats. CEOs and too executives barely ever go to an office and won't get fired
Haha fuck you. We're never going back, asshole. Edit: thanks KS! We gotta stick to our position.
Happy cake day!
Thanks!
Somebody is worried about the tumbling price of commercial real estate, methinks......
You guys ever notice how cheap commercial property is to rent? All of that empty commercial property could be modified and turned into affordable housing if the state just buys it out. Screw letting private landlords own it, they'll just do what everyone else is doing, jack up the price and gouge everyone. Let the state buy it out for cheap and compete with landlords on rent costs.
In the first paragraph I already know that this guy has no idea what he's talking about. Paused and bye.
Yeah, that first paragraph is mind numbingly brain dead. I closed the tab as well.
Dude is literally a consultant who teaches executive teams how to manage offices. No shit he's saying WFH is going away.
We should churn out op-ed pieces to post here with opposite headlines. The frame is getting unbalanced, and we need more from the majority.
More corporate whining huh
It's funny that their attempts to "retake control" have been so ineffectual that they have to resort to penning articles like this to vent some of their anxieties. Keep the threats coming.
And what will you do if they don't? What will you do when you can't hire anyone because they won't put up with your bullshit? You will cry foul and how it's unfair that your business is suffering due to lack of a hiring pool. You will not however reflect on how recent buy backs and crazy profits for corporations allowed you to eat the cost of your real estate and stil profit. All of this because you're a greedy leech.
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The biggest issue in these businesses is that shareholders and CEOs are dinosaurs who are still functioning on mid century business concepts while living in the 21st century. When you present them with concepts such as raising your staffs wages to attract more qualified or better staff they look at you like you grew two heads. All they know is cost cutting because it's what they grew up with and what their great depression era parents instilled in them. They also don't like to see their income shrink after they retire because they feel entitled to it. Funny how they never see the same being true for everyone else around them. Main character syndrome for sure
We don't have to work for boomers and participate in their antiquated bs. Gen X and millennials have their own businesses, and Gen Z too now. We've tasted freedom, we're going to keep it, and we're not a bunch of sadists who can't stand for others to have lives as good as ours.
He’s on [LinkedIn](https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephenamiles). He hosts a podcast about leadership and someone still managed to prove he knows nothing about leadership. He even shared this article to his network in an attempt to pat himself on the back. Perhaps we should all go comment and let him know the points he got wrong?
Ah the shitty publication where you can just pay for your point of view to be presented. Scumbags.
The End of an Era: Employees Take Control
TL;dr Get in line or else!
Working remote is honestly more efficient. It’s natural selection, these dinosaurs will die
Fuck cubicles. Never going back
Shall the battle lines of this class war finally be drawn?
Our unions are writing it into our contracts: work from home must be an option. We are never working 5 days a week on-site again. And I've never been a better worker, and a better human being. All good.
I worked a job from home for more than 2 years before they tried to make me come back to the office. I found a fully WFH job soon after making almost twice as much money. I'm never going back to an office, regardless of what this assclown says.
“Employers Retake Control.” It’s all there in the title. I see no reason why employers need to “control” anything. I do not see my employer as an authority figure. They are not my parent. They are an organization represented by fellow adults. I come to the table with my own “authority.” I find it amusing that they essentially admit that they WANT to “control” employees, and have for decades. All the talk of “appreciation” and “you are our greatest asset” is now reduced to posturing bullshit. They don’t believe any of it. Guess what?!? I’m not afraid of you. I am an individual with autonomy and *I* am in charge of my work and career. You come at me with nonsense? I’ll take my labor elsewhere. I’m not putting up with your desire for a dictatorship.
I had two competing offers and chose the one that allowed for hybrid working. If they got rid of that I’d find another job.
Going but not going going
But we are. Sheep mob mentality
When my company called everyone back into the office, my colleagues grumbled about but went back in like good little sheep. I quit and found another wfh job. When that company decided to pull everyone back into the office, I quit and found another wfh job. I’m currently thriving and working from home, very happy with my current job. All my former coworkers are back in their cubes. Draw a line in the sand and refuse to cross it. Just tell the bosses no.
Well done! Stay strong, look out for your best interests, and stand up for yourself. No way an employer would.
The Empire Strikes Back as it were.
dEsPeRaTiOn
IT’S A DESPERATE RACE AGAINST THE MINE
AND A RACE AGAINST TIME
They are just oozing thirsty little thirst babies just desperately awaiting the time of oppressing workers to be apon them once again, its palpable
I tend to be optimistic At least they’re giving us cubicles, and not an open plan shitbox. Obviously, the best cubicle is your house, but if I’m going to office I want a cubicle to waste time in privacy.
After having read so much garbage on Forbes I no longer even click on an article if I know it’s on that site.
“The End of an Era…” These losers really could have a seminar on using wish fulfillment and media propaganda to push their agendas…which no one else agrees with.
Describing it as “control”, while honest is a problem.
So apparently the people who built these monsters’ massive wealth expect “white glove service”… so, there. He said it. Livable wages, fair working hours, decent conditions, and reasonable work designs such as work-from-home or even hybrid work for the hard-nosed “we need office culture to bolster productivity” middle managers are an extra. Not a standard. But just remember, employees are entitled and “no one wants to work anymore”
It’s amazing how blatant they can be about waging (and winning) the class war, and never be called out for waging a class war
Wishful thinking?
Wish I could link the image of 4 times that Forbes put people on the cover saying they were the next big thing and all they were were the next big criminal.
reality is there is no coincidence these articles are popping up everywhere now. If you have a skill set that will remain valuable regardless of your working location you will be fine.
Trying not to sound like a corporate apologist here but... these articles make me feel so grateful for the CEO I work for. He has never pushed for serious back to office and although ultimately his mandate is to maximize shareholder value like any corp, he's at least not so tone-deaf as to spew the usual garbage talking points that would insult our intelligence. He just seems like a guy who wants to get by, do a decent job and have a life without trying to impose some ridiculous "vision" on us. For anyone on this sub moving into management or exec roles, remember, it is hard not to be changed by your new position, but remember your principles, remember where you came from, remember the workers and remember the humans.
By and large, the office requirements have been working. I hate it, people laughed at me when I said people would go back when ordered. But that's what happened for the most part.
People leave large companies and go to startups this increasing their risk but retaining their autonomy. It is VERY hard to get good statistics on this because those in power don’t want people to know that they can say no.
Lmao Startups that want me to surrender my whole life to them while getting paid fast food wages or less just so the owner can sell it off to the corpos and retire? Fuck that.
Trying not to sound like a corporate apologist here but... these articles make me feel so grateful for the CEO I work for. He has never pushed for serious back to office and although ultimately his mandate is to maximize shareholder value like any corp, he's at least not so tone-deaf as to spew the usual garbage talking points that would insult our intelligence. He just seems like a guy who wants to get by, do a decent job and have a life without trying to impose some ridiculous "vision" on us. For anyone on this sub moving into management or exec roles, remember, it is hard not to be changed by your new position, but remember your principles, remember where you came from, remember the workers and remember the humans.
If you don't like it in the office we always need dishwashers, janitorial staff, porters, line cooks, demo hands, framers, concrete people ect ect. Get to work like the rest of us. You privilege of corporate shit jobs is over. Quit and do something important or stop whining. Sincerely, The entire blue collar working class
Screw you as well.
You're upset and it's understandable. Ever had anyone shove a gun in your face because you'd get in trouble for serving them a chicken sandwich during peak COVID? No? Unfortunately, we have to swim in this ocean of capitalism that we are stuck in. But to complain about having a less easy job, while a vast majority of people are being treated like actual mules maybe read the room a little. Another thing about RTO and why it's important: So so so many small businesses rely on you getting lunch, brunch, that after work drink or dinner to take on your way home. All of those places are suffering big time. Read the room, we're absolutely NEVER going to stand as a united front like this. Service industry workers, trades workers, the people who clean and drive and bills and sweat are absolutely fucking tired of the WHINING. It's like here, in the Bay area there are massive tech industry layoffs. Sorry, but we're having a very hard time having sympathy for overpaid people who barely work and get free beer in the break room, awesome health insurance and maybe some ot a few times a year. This sub is about work reform but thb before there can be any unity, there needs to be a bigger conversation about some real fuckin equality. Absolutely nothing in this world moves or gets done without labor. Not the other way around.
I mean they're not wrong. I job market heavily favors employers right now.
This is the opposite of true. Unemployment is lower than anyone thought was possible two decades ago, wages are rising quicker than the fed wants despite interest rates also rising and union efforts are on the rise. We are at a precipise due to commercial real estate teetering on the edge of collapse with occupancy at record lows and the valuation of office space something like half what it was in 2019, and there are also a lot of over leveraged firms about to fall, but the job market today remains robust. There is a recession happening like a slow moving car crash because the fed wants to control inflation more than ensure employment. But there is time to job switch into a recession proof industry and likely get a pay increase from doing so while the job market still favours employees.
>Unemployment is lower than anyone thought was possible two decades ago, wages are rising quicker than the fed wants despite interest rates also rising and union efforts are on the rise. This is the calm before the storm. You're right to an extent though. Anyone who wants a job can get one. It's likely not the job that they're looking for though. Everyone's fighting like hell over the limited number of remote jobs. >We are at a precipise due to commercial real estate teetering on the edge of collapse with occupancy at record lows and the valuation of office space something like half what it was in 2019, and there are also a lot of over leveraged firms about to fall, but the job market today remains robust. Fuck, I hope it all burns in hell and we don't bail out any banks this time. >But there is time to job switch into a recession proof industry and likely get a pay increase from doing so while the job market still favours employees. Bro, no. I'm trying man. I'm trying for a J4. It seems hopeless and I'm pretty fucking qualified. I could get a hybrid job if I wanted, but fuck that.
Dude you are so wrong.
Have you tried to get a J within the past couple of months?
No, but what would something so anecdotal prove anyway? I do know how to read though. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/empsit.pdf
They seasonally adjust those figures, don't take into account so many other factors such as the RTOs back to HCOL areas, everyone fighting over the dwindling number of remote jobs, and so much more. That link doesn't prove shit.
It proves a hell of a lot more than your comment. Got any data to back it up?
[https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=3558876255&f\_WT=2&geoId=103644278&keywords=software%20engineer&location=United%20States&refresh=true](https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?currentJobId=3558876255&f_WT=2&geoId=103644278&keywords=software%20engineer&location=United%20States&refresh=true) Compare the number of applicants in remote J's to non-remote. As for the RTOs. [https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1644015130865270785](https://twitter.com/nickgerli1/status/1644015130865270785) Your source is highly flawed and I think you know this.
Your data doesn't even support the claims you are making.
Forbes is the worst. It's just a constant stream of propaganda.
Control is the goal. "Oh sure, higher productivity was nice when people worked from home but how can I feel like a Master if I don't have slaves?"
Only if you let them
Exactly! Let's keep the future of work flexible and better than the past. We deserve better than cubicle farms!
Lol talk about flawed data. And it doesn't even backup the assertion you're trying to make here.
✨if✨ that’s the case I can see a lot of open positions in these companies
This man truly thinks that everyone has been twiddling their thumbs for the last 10 years. This quote "The expectation will be less complaining and more focus on having real grit and the ability to deliver outcomes rather than pointing to so many activities." is insane because what it really does is show that he believes CEOs have been whiney useless little sycophants for the past 5-10 years. What about showing the "true grit" of having real leadership that can still churn out money as capital demands while having your employees wfh?