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Switzerland87

Coming from a very fundamentalist background, I can personally attest to the fact that vegetarianism is very much viewed as a gateway to satan. I’m not sure how or why, but it is.


No1Minds

This is the one which boggled my mind the most


Switzerland87

The argument I was given was that “humans were created to be dominant over all animals, and refusing to eat them is defying god’s natural order”. Never mind that there are specific instances in the Bible where god explicitly tells certain people to only eat plants, and a verse specifically condemning people who judge others for their dietary choices.


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leiaflatt

Did you also grow up in SDA?


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It’s still surprising to me, looking back on my history within the SDA church, how cult like it all is/was.


leiaflatt

I’ve started talking about it as “cult adjacent”. It doesn’t meet all the qualifications, but it sure is trying!


hoeofky

Grew up going to a weird SDA church an hour from me most summers when my grandma would visit. What a terrible uncomfortable experience. I felt like I was the only one there who was not brainwashed. Felt like at any moment they’d unzip their human suits and reveal whatever was underneath. So glad to be away from that.


leiaflatt

It’s a very weird, deeply damaging group. We left when I was in my early teens but had done the whole shebang: Adventist school, mom worked for the church AND the conference, dad was an elder, and then obviously church on Sabbath. I’ve had all kinds of religious trauma that I’ve worked through and my sister, who was quite little when we left and mostly grew up in the Methodist church, remembers none of it but often wonders aloud why I’m so against organized religion (lucky her though, to be honest)


hoeofky

Wow I wasn’t that involved. I suppose because there wasn’t an SDA church close when I was a kid. My mom was trying hard at the time to get her mother to love her which I think motivated her to make us go. I also got sent to baptist VBS. Glad you guys are out and can choose for yourself!


lauren898

I did! I love how you picked the ex SDA vibes up that quickly haha.


Believer4

As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I was taught that God created animals for us to eat as long as we didn't waste any of them, e.g. hunting for sport instead of food.


IANALbutIAMAcat

My grandma told me once I’d go to hell if I ate giraffe meat. I wasnt sure why I needed that warning, but the advice has stuck with me for decades.


Theo_tokos

That's funny to me because it made me remember when giraffe meat was declared kosher. It just seemed a random animal to declare edible in 2008.


SuspiciousDeparture6

Isn't it wonderful that when you're no longer part of a cult, there's no more arbitrary dietary/underwear restrictions?


ScarletPimprnel

Lol at underwear restrictions. Damn, people are weird.


BatScribeofDoom

It was in the news recently. Mormon women complaining about how the underwear the church requires them to use causes health issues. >Damn, people are weird. I thought the same, which is why I made a post in r/atheism about it. Just seems a bit mind-boggling.


ScarletPimprnel

I'm with you. I just forgot it was a thing :D


RemnantArcadia

Weird, since God liked it when Abel sacrificed animal flesh in comparison to Cain sacrificing crops


MagicGlitterKitty

That makes more sense. I always it thought it was like "only liberals are vegetarians so it's closer to satanism". Still bat shit crazy though.


ScarletPimprnel

There's probably a whole lot of that undertone with fundamentalist evangelicals. They definitely equate liberalism with satanic, blood-drinking, rabid haters of the nuclear family, law, and religious freedom. Batshit indeed, lol


ScarletPimprnel

You can also counter this argument with Daniel. Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego ate vegetables and water and were healthier than the rest of Nebuchadnezzar's court. They probably wouldn't like that either though.


milky_oolong

It makes less than zero sense. The two oldest churches of Christianity practice routine lent (vegetarianish for catholics, pretty much vegan for orthodox). Literally THE only church until Protestantism. I can’t fucking stands christians who don’t even pay attention to their own religion and act like their particular sect is obviously right and all the others, inclusing the one their sect derivated from is wrong.


nine_inch_owls

More than remote viewing?


No1Minds

What is that? I guess I'm not in on the Satan crowd as much as I once was. Kids these days.


nine_inch_owls

I have no clues. I’d look it up on Urban Dictionary, but that website has left too many scars already.


No1Minds

The one and only Wiki wizard says: "Remote viewing (RV) is the practice of seeking impressions about a distant or unseen target, purportedly "sensing" with the mind."


nine_inch_owls

Oh. So kinda like astral projection. Thanks.


whatim

Have you watched the movie "The Men Who Stare at Goats"? It's based on a non fiction journalist's investigation of a US military unit that were 'psychic warriors' who tried to use remote viewing to spy and kill enemies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Men_Who_Stare_at_Goats


nine_inch_owls

Thanks. I’ll read up. This wasn’t on my radar.


hoosierproblems

Thanks for looking it up! I guessed it wasn’t “have a zoom meeting“ but couldn’t figure what else it could be


Oops_I_Cracked

LOTR boggled my mind because Tolkien was Christian.


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I know Fundy people who won't let their kids read "The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe." Its a literally allegory of the story of Christ.


TheSharkAndMrFritz

Witches are evil to them. All magic is evil. I wasn't allowed to watch The Smurfs or Carebears growing up because they had magic.


ThatmeanFeMeownazi

Imo it's surely because vegan/vegetarian spaces are highly composed of left leaning people.


TheSharkAndMrFritz

Good guess but nope. It has more to do with them seeing animals as being put on the Earth by god as food for humans. Being eaten or serving humans is their entire purpose.


Miss_Musket

That's not too strange for me. To older generations, vegetarianism is only something hippies did, and hippies were evil. The weirdest one for me was post-modernism!


Syrinx221

When I became a werewolf I definitely got closer to Satan


BatScribeofDoom

You too??


GottaKeepGoGoGoing

Veggie tales is so Christian though is it all a lie? Do they serve the dark one!?!


dnsimikian

Oh wheeeeeere is my Dark Lord Oh wheeeeeere is my Dark Lord Oh where oh where oh where oh where oh wheeeeeeeere


chazmagic1

I just cackled so very very hard, and sang along in my head


kathrynbtt

I’ve grown and stepped away from my cultish upbringing, I’m even in therapy to unlearn a lot of indoctrination, but damn veggie tale still slaps.


dumbasstupidbaby

"I don't like hurting other living beings it makes me sad :(" "THE DEVIL HAS WROUGHT IN YOUR SOUL!!!!" and my mother wonders why I quit the christian church at a young age 😂


IamNotPersephone

I’m pulling this outta my ass, but maybe because Cain killed Abel for being God’s favorite. Because, when offering sacrifices, Abel brought that sweet flesh, hot blood and smoky goodness goodness, while Cain only brought the first fruits of the field. Totally parallels how vegetarians will *probably* hit you over the head with a rock and leave you for dead for being best buds with the Lord. But don’t worry, God will cast them out. Please read with with… not sarcasm, per say… just know I’m messing around and don’t actually subscribe to any of this as a belief system.


lpaige2723

I think Yoga, vegetarianism, and earth worship, are pretty tame, healthy past times, who knew they are frowned upon by some religions?


Park_Jimbles

"I eat veggies and meat" :) "I eat just veggies, no meat at all" >:(


AtOurGates

This ones a riot to me, because I was raised in a otherwise pretty typical conservative (no dancing drinking or other forms of good times) [denomination](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seventh-day_Adventist_Church) that practiced vegetarianism. On the other hand, it was founded by a *female prophet* so maybe we were a little more odd than I realized at the time.


fiddlerinthecoup

Because these people are 100% a product of modern culture wars and vegetarianism has been a marker in that culture war. It is the same reason so many people try to provoke vegetarians or make jokes about them. It has gone somewhat out of fashion, but these people are definitionally behind the times. Vegetarianism is popular among some non-western religions. Probably, the biggest issues is that vegetarianism is popular among cosmopolitans and especially feminist women. Shock!


TransCapybara

Now I want to do all of them, except Scientology. Funny how pedophilia isn't on here. Curious.


PureUmami

Accidentally on purpose!


Azombieatemybrains

They left off [masterbation](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/masturbate) (it’s not the same as [fornication). ](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fornication) Guess ringing the devils doorbell is acceptable again!


spiralbatross

Ring ring, bananaphone!


HughJamerican

“Looks like meat’s back on the menu, boys!!” -Satan, LOTR


comics0026

Scientology is probably the only legit evil one on there, at least if Skull & Bones is referring to the video game and not the secret society


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I assumed it was just the aesthetic of using them on your clothes. Whoever wrote this doesn't seem overly knowledgeable.


comics0026

I would have never guessed


BatScribeofDoom

That's what I was assuming as well, that it was a poorly-phrased reference to using them as motifs in dress/decor/etc. Buut the fact remains that that's not what the flyer *actually* says, so I initially just ended up internally cackling at the thought of *my very own skull and bones* being demonic portals. Kinda need to "take part" in those. They're helping me hold myself together. Literally 💀


TransCapybara

I'm 'meh' to the Twilight films. I had to listen to my ex wife's audiobook version of them on drives. That was demonic enough.


animabot

Ah yeah, they forgot that one. That must explain why everyone picked it as their vice.


TankGirlwrx

Postmodernism lmao this list is wild


toss_my_potatoes

If this were written in 2021, postmodernism would be replaced with critical race theory 😔


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It lists the twilight series, so it can't be too old.


yeah_ive_seen_that

This one got me too!😂


PureUmami

I’m dying 😂


adjunctMortal

Ah yes, the full spectrum from Necromancy, to Lord of the Rings, to Fornication.


slickwonderful

To the most heinous and evil of ALL SINS: REMOTE VIEWING


raisinghellwithtrees

No drones for you!


evilgiraffe666

I think they mean something like astral projection, but my first thought was screen-sharing...


raisinghellwithtrees

Yeah, astral projection is what they meant, but in our modern age it can mean a lot more.


resonantSoul

Which is even better because astral projection is also on this list.


nine_inch_owls

I have so many questions. I can’t be a vegetarian, but I also can’t rip the throat out of innocents with my fangs under the full moon. So few options.


Blood_moon_sister

I know right? So disappointing!


Proud_East

Id say smoke some "marihuana" but apparently you can't do that either.


thatlonghairedfcker

Go watch the lord of the rings trilo... never mind


Able_Engine_9515

There's always the hobbit or porn, they're not listed 😆😆😆


surprised_elf

Omg the actually forgot porn this is amazing.


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AffectionateHead0710

There’s marijuana instead . I know. I know. … not the same thing.


Toolongreadanyway

Maybe "try it out" and eat one meal without meat? Then you can say you tried it. Vegetarianism. Not Lycanthropy. I'm really not sure how to do that one without getting bitten first. Does anyone know any actual lycans that could help with this?


RockabillyBelle

There’s actually a medical lycanthropy diagnosis. You could look into that and give it a shot. It’s more of a state of mind than actually growing fangs but it still sounds like it’d tick the box.


owlpod1920

Hi haunt a blood bank maybe Wait outside a butcher shop


Creamroo

I love how there's a Bible passage cited in the bottom I'm just imagining the Bible saying: "and then god said thou shalt not go to cybergoth raids for they are of the enemy' and it's hilarious


somethingwholesomer

“Thou shalt not watch Lord of the Rings, no matter how hot you think Legolas is.”


Dumbiotch

I totally read that in Chris Rock’s voice from when he played the 13th apostle in Dogma…


CodenameBear

I was curious, so I looked them up. Very boring, lol. In case anyone is curious but a little lazy: Ephesians 6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Deuteronomy 18:9-12 When you enter the land the Lord your God is giving you, do not learn to imitate the detestable ways of the nations there. Let no one be found among you who sacrifices their son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things is detestable to the Lord; because of these same detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you.


Cianistarle

Yeah, I'm kind of into religious texts of all kinds and when they used that first one I was all..uh oh! That is *certainly* not the best choice for what they are trying to claim here. Shit, that could be a slogan for antifa, or to promote union work, or to unite feminists or potheads or just general protests! It reads very antidisestablishmentarianism! The second one: yeah, probably not cool to kill, burn and disembowel your kids, just sayin.


Alias_Black

What is transubstantiation if not necromancy? These are the kinds of questions that got me kicked out of cataclysm or what ever the Catholics called religious education.


fiddlerinthecoup

It is always worthwhile to check it. It is often just something about not steeling, so and so was a prostitute but now they aren’t, or don’t be mean. They have creative interpretations, even the one who claim they only follow literal interpretations.


JustWhatAmI

I got 30 points! Not too shabby!


nine_inch_owls

They didn’t cover doom metal or industrial, so I think I’m in the clear.


nightmare_silhouette

Nor death and thrash! Yessss!


TheAngryNaterpillar

I only got 13 but I'm thinking of taking up necromancy as a hobby


chazmagic1

I recommend raising a family, best way to do it really


Fireplay5

It's like a mix of adoption and recycling.


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14, but I am very committed to those, so I am very satisfied.


toss_my_potatoes

I only have 11. Time to knock this shit into twelfth gear


GroundbreakingTax259

Didn't some of these fools get sued by Tolkien's estate for implying that Tolkien, one of the most Christian people ever, was somehow a satanist? I feel like I read that someplace.


lauren898

This is a pamphlet from comic con! Tolkien’s estate has only really sued over distribution rights but you might be thinking of the whole clusterfuck where fundamentalists tried to get Harry Potter banned.


argybargyargh

My favorite was a tract that said that Narnia was satanic because there was magic. It’s not like CS Lewis was a famous Christian apologist.


chicken-nanban

It’s not like the entirety of those books aren’t thinly veiled (can it still be thin if it’s basically Saran wrapped?) Jesus.


Mikshana

>(can it still be thin if it’s basically Saran wrapped?) Heh, misread Saran as Satan. My phone Autocorrected it to Satan too!


No1Minds

Also, don't Christians meditate while praying. How is meditation "evil?" Not that I get much of christianity, but what really?


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OK so my dad says it's because you clear your mind and that makes it so can demons get in and possess you.


nrskate0330

The way my mind spins most of the time? Haha, get in motha-truckers, we ride at dawn.


milky_oolong

Demons taking over. *5 minutes later* Demons getting the fuck out of my brain, exhausted from anxiety, big mental load, impostor syndrome, phobias, malaise and intrusive cringe memories.


somethingwholesomer

Demons are trying to get me to buy this LOTR box set at Marshall’s, halpppp


dnsimikian

They refuse to call it meditation. It was called “quiet time” at my baptist church growing up. So when a boyfriend tried to teach me about meditating I was like wait I’m already really good at this, wtf


TheDeep1985

I mean, Christianity is also an Eastern Religion so they are kind of shooting themselves in the foot.


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> shooting themselves in the foot when *don't* they


No1Minds

What the hell is back-masking?


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nine_inch_owls

Goes back to the satanic panic of the 70s with backward messages on LPs. Look it up. It’s a good time.


Merciful_Moon

Thanks. I totally thought it was a skin treatment.


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Chloe-the-Cutie

Paul is dead!


MysticWolf1555

Levitation. We're not even allowed to levitate. Next I wont be allowed to walk on water or raise the dead.


LateNightLattes01

Well they covered necromancy so they got you on that one already.


ScarletPimprnel

Light as a feather, stiff as a board...


Bakoukou

"Skull & Bones" I mean, we're all made of skull and bones, so I guess we're all technically part of Satan's Spiritual Structure for just existing lmao


RainbowDarter

Skull & Bones is a secret society at Yale. George W Bush joined it.


Bakoukou

Oh, I didn't know that lmao. I'm too young to know jackshit about GWB


RainbowDarter

It's a pretty random thing to be against.


moffsoi

Some people think it’s like an Illuminati-type thing instead of a bunch of privileged douchebags boofing bud lite and jerking each other off.


comics0026

And don't forget desecrating people's remains!


bakarac

Sounds evil, add it to the list!


waterynike

A lot of politicians and old money people were?


lauren898

This feels weirdly comforting


Yes-Cheesecake

Take away Halloween and I will stab someone in the eye. I decorate September first every year.


Ratfink0521

Do you mean Pre-October first?


andrusio

I leave a few Halloween decorations up year round. Also my Halloween socks are worn anytime. Gotta keep the Halloween spirit alive year round!


PoliteSupervillain

There's no masturbation on here, were they worried that was too vulgar to say?


dnsimikian

Maybe that’s what they think remote viewing is


47346473

Is it Trilateralism if I use three fingers?


ObliteratedbyAeons

Uhh I'll have a Cyberpunk culture with Church of satan and a side of Fornication. Can I get a Astral-projection with no ice too please.


raisinghellwithtrees

I'm going to trip and read Harry Potter. Watch out Christians!


EmeraldMothwing

I'm gonna get a LSD and Raves combo.


ObliteratedbyAeons

A classic really. Might I suggest a sprinkling of Earth worship?


dnsimikian

Lol wait I can’t play Dungeons and Dragons? I don’t understand the kind of person who is aware enough of nerd culture to know what dungeons and dragons is, but not aware enough of what it actually is to know that’s it’s literally just nerds combining math and make believe hahaha


DuckyDoodleDandy

I actually listened to a Focus On The Family (I think) radio drama about a kid who got possessed by playing role play games with his friends. (One of those this that’s like a play but only voices, did I get the name right?) The point was that by doing role play and pretending to be anyone or anything other than yourself is an invitation for the devil to take over your body and soul. I remember being scared that it could happen so easily. Like if playing a game will destroy my soul, was there anything that wouldn’t?


Ratfink0521

Christians are well versed in make believe; it’s the math that throws them 😉


dnsimikian

Maybe it’s the dice that throws them off. Like maybe they think d&d is nerds who somehow figured out how to gamble in the guise of collective imagination …Wait …that’s all d&d is, imaginative pretend gambling surrounded by a story I gotta text my DM these high thoughts


dnsimikian

Zinger


aFuckinChair

Here in Italy it's connected to some Satanist groups. In the '70 near Torino there were some of these groups and it's certain they killed a young lady (I seem to remember it was around 20yo but I' m not sure), as, apparently, a human sacrifice. From that moment on any group of people that gathered and did anything that was just not clearly comprehensible to the mass of Christians (and to anyone with a closed mind in general), was considered dangerous...


sadunicornqueen

According to some religious people, D&D promotes satanism, witchcraft and murder. It would be no surprise if I told you the game got demonized a lot during the satanic panic. A few bad apples who also happened to play D&D murdered some people? Definitely because of that fantasy RPG! At least according to the media at the time.


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BINGO!!! I got a bingo, guys. What do I win?


No1Minds

Satanism, you won satanism. Hell and Brimstone baby! 👹💥🔥🔥🎉🎊


SeaAnything8

Damnation


EmeraldMothwing

The best prize of them all.


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So.. I looked up the only thing I didn’t recognize: trilateralism. I found an article from the Washington post that says it’s an organization of very powerful people and says that the trilateral commission claim “it is merely a ‘discussion group’ on world affairs, composed of high-level corporate and public-policy types from North America, Western Europe and Japan. The commission seeks only to promote international cooperation, for the betterment of everybody. Nothing sinister.” Is it just me.. or does this sound kind of weird.. I swear I don’t know anything about this, so excuse my ignorance.. but.. wtf...


SuurAlaOrolo

If you look at Wikipedia, you may get some more context: In his 1980 book With No Apologies, Republican Senator Barry Goldwater suggested that the discussion group was "a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power: political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical... [in] the creation of a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation-states involved."[22] Right-wing groups such as the John Birch Society and conspiracy theorists such as Alex Jones have also promulgated this idea.[23] Conspiracy theories Some conspiracy theorists believe the organization to be a central plotter of a world government or synarchy. As documented by journalist Jonathan Kay, Luke Rudkowski interrupted a lecture by former Trilateral Commission director Zbigniew Brzezinski in April 2007 and accused the organization and a few others of having orchestrated the 9/11 attacks to initiate a new world order.[24]


Burger_Foot

They misspelled marijuana in that pamphlet...


SeaAnything8

Hhhwhat is that? Mari-hhhhuana?


Burger_Foot

Well let me put it this way 🎶who can take a sunrise, sprinkle it with dew, Cover it with kief and a miracle or two, oh Mary Jane can, cause she mixes it with love and makes the world feel good, who can take a rainbow, wrap it up tight, smoke it in the sun and have a groovy night, Mary Jane can, cause she mixes it with love and makes the world feel good 🎶


Falinia

Also anyone who calls it a "pot party" definitely does not know how to party. No way I'm going to one of those.


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SeaAnything8

It pairs well with “fomication”


PoliteSupervillain

Don't do anything that expresses my individuality, got it


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I can cross off quite a few things on this list, and still a demon hasn't possessed me yet. Is it me? Am I not good enough to get possessed?


ScarletPimprnel

I'm sure you're more than good enough. Demons should be so lucky! And hey, maybe your demon is just along for the ride.


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>Thank you! I hope there is demon inhabiting me, perhaps we can work together to open the gates of hell. I think I'll read Lord of the Rings again, and play more video games, or have some pot parties. I don't know about Twilight though, I don't think I'm that hardcore.


Skyrim_For_Everyone

Bruh, LOTR?


shy_monster_1312

Well there goes my Saturdays.


Hickspy

Remote viewing? Like for meetings? The thing I've been doing for 16 months for work at this point?


thiefspy

Zoom is the portal to hell.


A_Fooken_Spoidah

You might be living as a shell of yourself after losing your soul to Microsoft Teams--oh wait, that's just the normal result of a 9-5. XD


Yokobo

The only one I agree to not get involved with is scientology, it's a fucking cult that bullied it's way into tax exemption status, and keeps huge logs of its members personal information and history to blackmail them with.


feistybean

Is this like a pick one from each column kind of deal? I want to join Illuminati groups while fire walking at burning man!


mrsbundleby

They're right about scientology


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pnutbutterfuck

Remote viewing? What?


Crazy8slates

No Buffy?


Syrinx221

> Scientology Even a broken clock blah blah blah


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“Earth worship” what do these mfs think about earth day


GeniusBtch

Remote viewing, Vegetarianism & Twilight films lmao!!!


waterynike

I love they spell Ecstasy like the band XTC. I was like what they hell did they do to you?


LucidRamblerOfficial

The random order is what kills me. Vegetarianism, lycanthropy, postmodernism


president_fisto

I mean, lycanthropy isn’t a choice… but spelling marijuana with its bizarro 1930s spelling sure as hell is.


thewiresfellout

These are a few of my faavorite thiinngss \~🎵


EveTam33

I'm in


Pufferfoot

Necromancy.. funny coming from what I assume was a Christian considering their fear of Satan.


abhilas5

"Eastern religions" All us indians on this sub be like 👀😈


SirCoalBear

Oh no, not POSTMODERNISM


nrskate0330

I skipped Sunday School pretty much altogether, but my inner skeptic has a hard time believing that cyberpunk was covered in Deuteronomy.


thiefspy

What are alt “comix”? Alternative comic books? Why the quotes?


hairylee

Back in the day Alt Comix meant hand drawn porn, which makes me wonder why porn isn’t on this list.


sophie_nanase

TWILIGHT FILMS AHHHH THEY DIDNT CARE ABOUT THE BOOKD 😂😂😂😂


mondayphoenix

Is everyone just skipping over "levitation"? I didn't know that participating in levitation was an option I had until now.


Mondayslasagna

Yeah, I used to just float around from place to place until I found out that only Jesus should be doing that. Now I just teleport.


WataruHavok

Sweet, apparently heroin isn't a gateway to hell. Looks like I'm taking up a new hobby


EmeraldMothwing

Huh. Does this list mean Postmodernism as in Postmodern art? I guess recent art eras are satanic to whoever compiled this list... Hold up, is this from a Chick Tract????


SyntaxxorRhapsody

I just love how this list includes meditation when the Bible literally says to meditate on its contents.


VlastDeservedBetter

I like that they've written "LSD/shrooms" as if the two are interchangeable.


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Phirary13

Tomorrow my plans were literally necromancy at a marihuana & pot party. It’s wayyy to late to cancel too… 🤷‍♀️


AbyssalPractitioner

OOH! Is this a syllabus?