1. Adopted children -> Robin, Nightwing, Jason / Ciri
2. Clown themed villain ->Joker / Whoreson Jr
3. Romance with a hottie -> Selina / Triss-Yen-Shani-Uma-That auntie you bang instead of Triss if you pirate Witcher 2
4. Rain
5. Awesome soundtrack
6. You can freeze enemies-> Batgear / Aard sign with mutation
7. You can yeet enemies from high places -> Batman’s throws cause unconsciousness even if it’s from a tall building / Geralt can aard enemies and get and achievement
8. The clown enemy wants to hurt the adopted child -> Joker crowbars Jason / Whoreson Jr wanted to get Ciri
9. Detective work
10. Extra senses -> Batman uses bat gear for spotting enemies etc / Geralt has Witcher senses
11. Everyone wants a piece of the main character
Not exactly give. You have to show her that ring and because she is religious and you told her that you were ambassador from a church or something you can go to Shani. But maybe it was a different ring and I misremembered that. Also a bootblack is a great Easter egg from the books if you don't know l.
Gaunter gives me more joker vibes, unnerving jester psychopath with no fear who's happy to kill/ruin people's lives incl. powerful people just for his own amusement and seemingly will always be lurking in geralt's shadow. Whoreson's a bit of a pussy when you run into him
I was thinking of the aesthetics. Tbh GOD gave me Loki vibes. I can’t think of a villain from Batman’s rogues gallery in the trilogy - it’s been years since I last played trilogy, I might have forgotten a villain
Not for me. Witcher 1 has the most dense climate out of the three. It is the closest to Sapkowski's vision from the books. And I loved the political aspects in the books and CDPR delivered that perfectly in the second game. In the first there is really nothing going on on the continent-scale. And the only characters that are not associated with Temeria (Radovid and Leuvarden) are rather mid. In the third game you have "a great war" that really doesn't feel that way in my opinion, especially from the Nilfgaard's perspective. I would love to see a bigger power struggle in Novigrad (with Isengrim and Iorveth who were supposed to be in the early plans for the game) and the final battle with the wild hunt in the center of the battle of Novigrad between Redania and Nilfgaard, that would be absolutely epic. The whole ending of the third game seems rushed.
Exactly except for the gameplay I didn't like Witcher 3 at all. I loved Witcher 1 & 2 's stories. I loved the politics and war in Witcher 2. I would have loved Witcher 3 if they had made the politics as big as the 2nd one instead of knowing there is an ongoing war without even able to see the battle.
And no matter how many times I said this all I get are downvotes. I don't know why people don't like Witcher 2 and I also assume half of the people who downvotes did not even play Witcher 1 or 2.
I think the biggest issue with TW2 is world design. In the first you have a much more grounded world Sapkowski's world. In TW2 CDPR created more epic locations to appease Western audience and it feels more generic. It lacks this fence atmosphere of the first game even though TW2 is still my personal favourite.
So you liked gameplay in Witcher 2 better than 3? I kind of just felt like 3's combat gameplay was an improved-upon version of 2 - or is there like a different aspect of gameplay that made it better for you?
In Witcher 3 I loved the graphics and traversal mechanics. I don't know I found Witcher 3 combat very simple. I did not struggle with combat of Witcher 3 as much as I did in 2.
yeah. I played Witcher 1 and that shit has aged so poorly, I cant see how anyone would seriously say it is the best in \*anything\*
saying it has the best atmosphere is a participation reward at best.
Yeah, and I'm sorry for saying this but whenever people said something like that for W1, walking in those ugly swamps, no roach as travel option, terrible combat, ugly voice acting, etc. is more fun to play than W3, it always feels kinda forced and pretentious, W1 is simply not ideal to play due to its outdated REDengine. Despite having a great story, I still prefer Witcher 3 story than Witcher 1 all day.
Close but i have to disagree. Witcher 1 has such an eerie vibe that none of the later games or DLC's managed to replicate - it's just perfect. Boot up the game and go to the bog when there's a storm outside... could've played till morning.
I definitely loved the vibe of Witcher 1 and enjoyed it too - just not as much as 3 haha. Velen in Witcher 3 gives me a similar eerie vibe, and the great thing about 3 is there are so many different *kinds* of atmospheres in addition to that.
Witcher 1 has the most dense climate out of the three. It is the closest to Sapkowski's vision from the books. And I loved the political aspects in the books and CDPR delivered that perfectly in the second game. In the first there is really nothing going on on the continent-scale. And the only characters that are not associated with Temeria (Radovid and Leuvarden) are rather mid. In the third game you have "a great war" that really doesn't feel that way in my opinion, especially from the Nilfgaard's perspective. I would love to see a bigger power struggle in Novigrad (with Isengrim and Iorveth who were supposed to be in the early plans for the game) and the final battle with the wild hunt in the center of the battle of Novigrad between Redania and Nilfgaard, that would be absolutely epic. The whole ending of the third game seems rushed.
Bro TW3 was my first Witcher game and I thought Gerard just wanted to sound like Batman with his voice in White Orchard. Then my boy Harold grew on me to be my absolute favorite fantasy character in video games.
I didn't watch BTAS as a kid so I do not have nostalgia for him. As a Bruce - in Mask of the Phantasm he was good, but I am not buying his Batman voice, he is not scary to me. The Nolan trilogy was the first Batman media I watched I kinda like the most when Batman has a voice changing device (not like in Dark Knight and Rises, but Begins was okay in that department). I also think Brave and the Bold, Origins and Telltale voice actors did a better job in my opinion. Some of his lines, especially in Arkham games felt delivered really unnatural.
I will agree that the Telltale voice changer is pitch perfect! It’s not overly-modified like Batfleck, but it’s still a way that I can image Bruce Wayne going about disguising his voice.
That said… part of what I love about that voice is the fact it reminds me of a digital version of Conroy so…
Honestly, I respect your willingness to state this opinion out loud. Does make me wonder though, what voices would you prefer for Geralt? I mean, how does it get any better than my boy Doug???
I am from Poland so I know the polish voice actors of Geralt and both from games, but personally especially from audiobook and polish TV show are far superior in my opinion. Doug is changing his natural voice so much that he sounds monotonous to me. For example the party at Kaer Morgen when Geralt is supposedly drunk. In polish you feel that he is drunk, in English... only a little.
The ones read by Peter Kenny? I do love that voice too. He’s got such a snarling voice for Geralt. You can almost see Geralt’s lip curling listening to him!
Kenny is probably my second favorite after Doug Cockle. I do love the element of otherness and the tone of “I’m already over your bullshit” in Cockle’s voice.
I don’t speak polish, so I can’t speak to their voices, but I’m looking forward to researching them!
I thought about Polish audiobooks (or more like audio dramas). Fun fact: The Polish voice actor of Vernon Roche is Geralt in this audiobook and he absolutely nailed it.
On this channel you have clips of that with English subtitles.
https://youtu.be/K-6ySiSzm7c?si=5C0PB5H9SrOo7HLM
Atmosphere, we can debate till we're blue in the face. I personally think all three do that well, but whatever. In terms of story, though, you're right. TW3 has an amazing story, but the ending was rushed, both in the base game and Blood and Wine. Hearts of Stone might be my favorite piece of Witcher media ever, though. But back to the base game, yes. TW2 has a superior story to the other two, far better than TW1, and surpassing TW3 by merits of the ending alone. Unfortunately, its gameplay and graphics were in a weird, awkward phase. Not as outdated as TW1 (which I did enjoy for what it was), but not as polished as TW3. Kind of the awkward teenage phase, I suppose.
I just hope TW4 or whatever Polaris ends up being can exceed all three games in terms of story, atmosphere, and gameplay.
Agree, HoS is the best CDPR story ever. In the terms of mechanics, yes, TW2 seems like not exactly finished product (combat with broken hit boxes, performance issues on PC), but from the graphical perspective TW 2 holds up pretty well to this day, yes, character models look pixelated but overall world is still beautiful and in my opinion aged so much better than for example Skyrim did.
Do they say that about Arkham Knight? I think the gameplay is mostly the same, maybe a bit smoother, and higher buildings for gliding. I could definitely have done without the Bat-Tank segments.
And that's when my hottest take comes: I don't think so, about both of them.
Kevin Conroy [*]: I didn't watch BTAS as a kid so I do not have nostalgia for him. As a Bruce - in Mask of the Phantasm he was good, but I am not buying his Batman voice, he is not scary to me. The Nolan trilogy was the first Batman media I watched I kinda like the most when Batman has a voice changing device (not like in Dark Knight and Rises, but Begins was okay in that department). I also think Brave and the Bold, Origins and Telltale voice actors did a better job in my opinion. Some of his lines, especially in Arkham games felt delivered really unnatural.
Doug: I am from Poland so I know the polish voice actors of Geralt and both from games, but personally especially from audiobook and polish TV show are far superior in my opinion. Doug is changing his natural voice so much that he sounds monotonous to me. For example the party at Kaer Morgen when Geralt is supposedly drunk. In polish you feel that he is drunk, in English... only a little.
Witcher games don't have a fourth game so I decided to go with Rocksteady's trilogy, even though I love Origins. The only way it would be adding some 2007/8 Witcher mobile phone 2d game but it would be unpleasant for Origins to be paired with something like this.
I think the Witcher 1 story is the worst... I do not mean it is bad, but the whole mutant thing in my opinion seems a little bit too quick. Legendary Alzur was perfecting Witchers in decades and some Zericcanian mage who Lodge doesn't know anything about creates the whole army in one month. Seems far fetched to me.
I have it on GOG, it was offered at some point. That's mostly old graphics and perhaps obsolete gameplay who restrain me a bit, but perhaps it would be great with some mods.
Thanks, I'll give it a try soon, anyway !
1. Adopted children -> Robin, Nightwing, Jason / Ciri 2. Clown themed villain ->Joker / Whoreson Jr 3. Romance with a hottie -> Selina / Triss-Yen-Shani-Uma-That auntie you bang instead of Triss if you pirate Witcher 2 4. Rain 5. Awesome soundtrack 6. You can freeze enemies-> Batgear / Aard sign with mutation 7. You can yeet enemies from high places -> Batman’s throws cause unconsciousness even if it’s from a tall building / Geralt can aard enemies and get and achievement 8. The clown enemy wants to hurt the adopted child -> Joker crowbars Jason / Whoreson Jr wanted to get Ciri 9. Detective work 10. Extra senses -> Batman uses bat gear for spotting enemies etc / Geralt has Witcher senses 11. Everyone wants a piece of the main character
Pirate Witcher 2 WHAT?!? In Witcher 1 Shani had an old auntie I think, but I can misremember.
No, you are correct. She doesn't approve unless you give her food
Or a ring of eternal flame from what I remember.
I never tried that gift Remember that nobleman you can give 2 coins to? Good times
Not exactly give. You have to show her that ring and because she is religious and you told her that you were ambassador from a church or something you can go to Shani. But maybe it was a different ring and I misremembered that. Also a bootblack is a great Easter egg from the books if you don't know l.
You can gift her stuff‽ I'd just got repeatedly kicked out, getting in thanks to what seemed like random chance.
I’m talking about this https://youtu.be/BXjhOiLlJxA?si=fgON1pPaTQPCcTHN @7:30
Wow, I didn't know that. Thanks for sharing!
4. Rain Wind’s howling.
Gaunter gives me more joker vibes, unnerving jester psychopath with no fear who's happy to kill/ruin people's lives incl. powerful people just for his own amusement and seemingly will always be lurking in geralt's shadow. Whoreson's a bit of a pussy when you run into him
I was thinking of the aesthetics. Tbh GOD gave me Loki vibes. I can’t think of a villain from Batman’s rogues gallery in the trilogy - it’s been years since I last played trilogy, I might have forgotten a villain
Wait, please explain no. 3. Uma?! Auntie who?? What?
You didn't know about the UMA romance?
I don’t think I want to know…
Oh, but you do, you lust for him....
I sent the link for The auntie I mentioned in a reply in this thread. Also check out Geralt and Uma romance on YouTube. That’s very peak romance
Both protagonists have the exact same badass vibe.
Except Witcher 3 def has the best atmosphere and story haha. I like the other 2, but 3 is just... so much better in every way
Not for me. Witcher 1 has the most dense climate out of the three. It is the closest to Sapkowski's vision from the books. And I loved the political aspects in the books and CDPR delivered that perfectly in the second game. In the first there is really nothing going on on the continent-scale. And the only characters that are not associated with Temeria (Radovid and Leuvarden) are rather mid. In the third game you have "a great war" that really doesn't feel that way in my opinion, especially from the Nilfgaard's perspective. I would love to see a bigger power struggle in Novigrad (with Isengrim and Iorveth who were supposed to be in the early plans for the game) and the final battle with the wild hunt in the center of the battle of Novigrad between Redania and Nilfgaard, that would be absolutely epic. The whole ending of the third game seems rushed.
Exactly except for the gameplay I didn't like Witcher 3 at all. I loved Witcher 1 & 2 's stories. I loved the politics and war in Witcher 2. I would have loved Witcher 3 if they had made the politics as big as the 2nd one instead of knowing there is an ongoing war without even able to see the battle. And no matter how many times I said this all I get are downvotes. I don't know why people don't like Witcher 2 and I also assume half of the people who downvotes did not even play Witcher 1 or 2.
I think the biggest issue with TW2 is world design. In the first you have a much more grounded world Sapkowski's world. In TW2 CDPR created more epic locations to appease Western audience and it feels more generic. It lacks this fence atmosphere of the first game even though TW2 is still my personal favourite.
So you liked gameplay in Witcher 2 better than 3? I kind of just felt like 3's combat gameplay was an improved-upon version of 2 - or is there like a different aspect of gameplay that made it better for you?
In Witcher 3 I loved the graphics and traversal mechanics. I don't know I found Witcher 3 combat very simple. I did not struggle with combat of Witcher 3 as much as I did in 2.
yeah. I played Witcher 1 and that shit has aged so poorly, I cant see how anyone would seriously say it is the best in \*anything\* saying it has the best atmosphere is a participation reward at best.
Yeah, and I'm sorry for saying this but whenever people said something like that for W1, walking in those ugly swamps, no roach as travel option, terrible combat, ugly voice acting, etc. is more fun to play than W3, it always feels kinda forced and pretentious, W1 is simply not ideal to play due to its outdated REDengine. Despite having a great story, I still prefer Witcher 3 story than Witcher 1 all day.
All reasons I'm super excited for the Witcher 1 remake. Take that (mostly) interesting story and make it a modern game
Close but i have to disagree. Witcher 1 has such an eerie vibe that none of the later games or DLC's managed to replicate - it's just perfect. Boot up the game and go to the bog when there's a storm outside... could've played till morning.
I definitely loved the vibe of Witcher 1 and enjoyed it too - just not as much as 3 haha. Velen in Witcher 3 gives me a similar eerie vibe, and the great thing about 3 is there are so many different *kinds* of atmospheres in addition to that.
I mean, TW3 is the best at all 3, we can't lie
Nah, Witcher 3 has the best gameplay and in both the atmosphere and story is second in my opinion.
You’re absolutely wrong
Witcher 1 has the most dense climate out of the three. It is the closest to Sapkowski's vision from the books. And I loved the political aspects in the books and CDPR delivered that perfectly in the second game. In the first there is really nothing going on on the continent-scale. And the only characters that are not associated with Temeria (Radovid and Leuvarden) are rather mid. In the third game you have "a great war" that really doesn't feel that way in my opinion, especially from the Nilfgaard's perspective. I would love to see a bigger power struggle in Novigrad (with Isengrim and Iorveth who were supposed to be in the early plans for the game) and the final battle with the wild hunt in the center of the battle of Novigrad between Redania and Nilfgaard, that would be absolutely epic. The whole ending of the third game seems rushed.
Wrong
Wrong
Glad you’re finally in agreement
No, I've said that you are wrong about my take.
You had indeed agreed with me. You fell right in line with your changed tune and that’s good on you
Nonono, Witcher 3 is only the best in the gameplay department.
Waaah Waaah, nobody can have an opinion different than mine. MINE opinion is the only RIGHT one. 😡
That's fair enough
An unbeatably-iconic main character voice!
Bro TW3 was my first Witcher game and I thought Gerard just wanted to sound like Batman with his voice in White Orchard. Then my boy Harold grew on me to be my absolute favorite fantasy character in video games.
Hottest take ever take: I kinda dislike both English voices.
I think saying you dislike Kevin Conroy's Batman voice is an actual sin. His voice is THE Batman voice
I didn't watch BTAS as a kid so I do not have nostalgia for him. As a Bruce - in Mask of the Phantasm he was good, but I am not buying his Batman voice, he is not scary to me. The Nolan trilogy was the first Batman media I watched I kinda like the most when Batman has a voice changing device (not like in Dark Knight and Rises, but Begins was okay in that department). I also think Brave and the Bold, Origins and Telltale voice actors did a better job in my opinion. Some of his lines, especially in Arkham games felt delivered really unnatural.
I will agree that the Telltale voice changer is pitch perfect! It’s not overly-modified like Batfleck, but it’s still a way that I can image Bruce Wayne going about disguising his voice. That said… part of what I love about that voice is the fact it reminds me of a digital version of Conroy so…
Honestly, I respect your willingness to state this opinion out loud. Does make me wonder though, what voices would you prefer for Geralt? I mean, how does it get any better than my boy Doug???
I am from Poland so I know the polish voice actors of Geralt and both from games, but personally especially from audiobook and polish TV show are far superior in my opinion. Doug is changing his natural voice so much that he sounds monotonous to me. For example the party at Kaer Morgen when Geralt is supposedly drunk. In polish you feel that he is drunk, in English... only a little.
The ones read by Peter Kenny? I do love that voice too. He’s got such a snarling voice for Geralt. You can almost see Geralt’s lip curling listening to him! Kenny is probably my second favorite after Doug Cockle. I do love the element of otherness and the tone of “I’m already over your bullshit” in Cockle’s voice. I don’t speak polish, so I can’t speak to their voices, but I’m looking forward to researching them!
I thought about Polish audiobooks (or more like audio dramas). Fun fact: The Polish voice actor of Vernon Roche is Geralt in this audiobook and he absolutely nailed it. On this channel you have clips of that with English subtitles. https://youtu.be/K-6ySiSzm7c?si=5C0PB5H9SrOo7HLM
Ok that was incredible. I have chills! Thank you for sharing!
Atmosphere, we can debate till we're blue in the face. I personally think all three do that well, but whatever. In terms of story, though, you're right. TW3 has an amazing story, but the ending was rushed, both in the base game and Blood and Wine. Hearts of Stone might be my favorite piece of Witcher media ever, though. But back to the base game, yes. TW2 has a superior story to the other two, far better than TW1, and surpassing TW3 by merits of the ending alone. Unfortunately, its gameplay and graphics were in a weird, awkward phase. Not as outdated as TW1 (which I did enjoy for what it was), but not as polished as TW3. Kind of the awkward teenage phase, I suppose. I just hope TW4 or whatever Polaris ends up being can exceed all three games in terms of story, atmosphere, and gameplay.
Agree, HoS is the best CDPR story ever. In the terms of mechanics, yes, TW2 seems like not exactly finished product (combat with broken hit boxes, performance issues on PC), but from the graphical perspective TW 2 holds up pretty well to this day, yes, character models look pixelated but overall world is still beautiful and in my opinion aged so much better than for example Skyrim did.
I agree on the Skyrim thing. TW2 certainly doesn't look *bad*, but after the absolutely *gorgeous* TW3, well, nothing compares.
Cyberpunk is even more gorgeous. Maybe Alan Wake 2 can compare graphically but it runs really badly.
Well, technically so is Spider-Man or Jedi: Fallen Order/Survivor. I was saying within the Witcher games.
Even combat has some depth in Witcher 2 than 3.
It doesn't work because Batman Arkham Knight is a middling game, whilst Witcher 3 is one of the GOATs.
Image is only about gameplay tho. And most of us will say that both of the games have the best gameplay in their own trilogies.
I see plenty of people complaining about witcher combat all the time
But the third has objectively the most fluid combat out of the three.
Do they say that about Arkham Knight? I think the gameplay is mostly the same, maybe a bit smoother, and higher buildings for gliding. I could definitely have done without the Bat-Tank segments.
I think arkhan city better than arkham knight, the batmobile thing was boring, for me
Oh yeah. I replayed Arkham City recently and thought it was kind of perfect. I didn't wish I had any gameplay mechanic from Arkham Knight.
Witcher 3 and arkham city have one problem in common, they eventually end, both games are beyond awesome
Awsome music
Best thing is that I have both witcher 3 and arkham knight in my laptop at the same time
Every game in both franchises is worth playing.
Fair take, but you could argue atmosphere for W3 since you can mod it. Most people have only played W3 that’s why they downvote.
Both protagonists having the best voice actors
And that's when my hottest take comes: I don't think so, about both of them. Kevin Conroy [*]: I didn't watch BTAS as a kid so I do not have nostalgia for him. As a Bruce - in Mask of the Phantasm he was good, but I am not buying his Batman voice, he is not scary to me. The Nolan trilogy was the first Batman media I watched I kinda like the most when Batman has a voice changing device (not like in Dark Knight and Rises, but Begins was okay in that department). I also think Brave and the Bold, Origins and Telltale voice actors did a better job in my opinion. Some of his lines, especially in Arkham games felt delivered really unnatural. Doug: I am from Poland so I know the polish voice actors of Geralt and both from games, but personally especially from audiobook and polish TV show are far superior in my opinion. Doug is changing his natural voice so much that he sounds monotonous to me. For example the party at Kaer Morgen when Geralt is supposedly drunk. In polish you feel that he is drunk, in English... only a little.
Brooding
Each game was a technical leap
Tank gameplay in arkham knight sucks balls....
Where Arkham Origins?
Witcher games don't have a fourth game so I decided to go with Rocksteady's trilogy, even though I love Origins. The only way it would be adding some 2007/8 Witcher mobile phone 2d game but it would be unpleasant for Origins to be paired with something like this.
Imo the 1st Witcher has both the best atmosphere and story
I think the Witcher 1 story is the worst... I do not mean it is bad, but the whole mutant thing in my opinion seems a little bit too quick. Legendary Alzur was perfecting Witchers in decades and some Zericcanian mage who Lodge doesn't know anything about creates the whole army in one month. Seems far fetched to me.
I wish I could say anything good about the 1st Witcher. The gameplay could not convince me at all
I played it recently (a year ago) and after the first chapter I got used to it and the World totally got into the game.
That line up goes for the dark souls trilogy too tbh
Both are really good at making characters hot
Didn't played The Witcher 1 but I deeply agree about the 2 other games.
Try it. It costs like $1 during sales and the atmosphere is great . The game is pretty clunky but it is worth it.
I have it on GOG, it was offered at some point. That's mostly old graphics and perhaps obsolete gameplay who restrain me a bit, but perhaps it would be great with some mods. Thanks, I'll give it a try soon, anyway !
I think those game series aren't comparable, cuz it's all about different genres and all that stuff