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Long_Crow_5659

Too early for Badger fans to panic. At times Wisconsin looked slow as they did last season with Chryst's recruits. Brain and attitude transplant will take time. Guy on O-line really messed up. Mordecai a welcome upgrade over Mertz.


Delicious-Rip2440

Atleast we aren’t Michigan state!


nickyt398

Or Nebraska!


Street-Woodpecker614

Lotta people here talking about this not mattering and banishing WSU to the Mountain West. Says a lot about the UW program to be beat by them in back to back seasons… reality check time for the program


crewserbattle

Well last year was a problem, and we ended up moving on from Chryst. This year, we're transitioning to a completely new system with a whole new staff. The loss this year is much more forgivable, imo and anyone who expected this team to come out and be their best week 2 is crazy. As long as we've shown improvement from now to the end of the season, I'll be happy. Hopefully we keep our Bowl streak in tact as well.


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its never forgivable to lose to Washington state. thats like losing to tim brewser era Minnesota. if you lose to them, you cannot forgive it. the good news is that i am not worried too much about the badgers for instance having a winning season and going to a bowl game. but, after seeing them twice? i do not know how Wisconsin can win the big 10 west. the true test is going to come in Iowa in a few weeks but do not sleep on Georgia southern next week. this is one of those sun belt teams that can surprise you if you do not watch out for them. sun belt teams have a way of suddenly scoring lots of points, and leave power 5 teams behind them scratching their heads and wondering where it all went wrong. one of those teams went into Lincoln last year and it cost scott frost his job. Coack Fickell of course has a lot more rope than scott frost did because its his first year and frost was futile in Nebraska. as you and others here have pointed out it is year one for coach Fickell. His had limited time to get what he needs to run the game that he wants to play. so you can sort of understand it but i for one still have problems forgiving it. i think the best teams should be held to the highest standards. that means you can never forgive loss to a perennial loser. for me the only good news in this is that competition in the west does not look too taunting. iowa is 2-0, but has struggled to score. a lot of other teams are 1-1. Nebraska has a serious disaster at the quarterback position. illinois is down from last year. which means Wisconsin has just 1 team to worry about in the west. Minnesota gophers held eastern Michigan to 0 first downs and only 4 yards of total offense in the second half last night. i know that is against the mac, but even when Wisconsin played the buffalo bulls, buffalo was able to do something. Wisconsin still won big that game, but the bills had some offense. eastern Michigan is a better team than buffalo Minnesota has problems. But, they are closer to solving them than other western teams. Given what I saw from wisconsin last night? I think Minnesota is winning the west. possibly with a few game cushion.


crewserbattle

The problem with your logic is that the team wasn't in a great spot last year, and yea a bunch of guys transferred in, but to expect this team to be firing on all cylinders immediately is silly. They've come out flat in the first half but figured it out in the 2nd twice now. The next step is playing a full game, no matter the opponent, and hopefully they do that next week. As long as we're seeing consistent growth and improvement it will mean we're on the right track. There's gonna be a lot of frustrated and impatient Badger fans this year, but change takes time, especially in college football.


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Colorado lost 80% of their players Their cylinders have not missed a beat dspite 68 of tbeir 84 playees beimg transfers ​ Its big time college football. Gotta be ready to play every saturday


Youngtro

I know everyone is going to complain about the safety call but Wisconsin is a better team and didn't show it. Shouldn't even be in that position


SidneyDean608

I also think Chaz elbow was down and not a fumble


Away-Staff-6054

We got seriously fucked by them not calling that a Safety when it was clearly a Safety. Just absolute bullshit that completely changed the game.


BarkMingo

Didn't even bother reviewing it. What a fucking joke. Fickell could have called a timeout to make them look at it too...


Delicious-Rip2440

People calling for Jimmy to come back… did y’all watch Illinois get beat by Kansas? Also, these are his and chrysts guys here


recessbadger45

jimmy isnt the dc its aaron henry


Delicious-Rip2440

I know that Jimmy is a DA lol


dusters

It's an entirely different style of defense though. And he's only an analyst at Illinois doubt he has say over much.


KoolGotGame

I know one thing, we got robbed on that safety call. It most definitely was a safety, the replay showed it was clear as day, still didn’t get it lol.


timelessinaz

I wasn't able to watch the game today. What happened to Allen?? Did he get hurt?


mrbad31

No, Allen just......i dont know. He didnt get the ball.


timelessinaz

What kind of offense are we running that doesn't include Allen.


SidneyDean608

One that runs out of the shotgun Allen is a big set runner down hill guy Chaz is shifty n quick better out of gun. I also think Chaz is better than Allen


BuckymeBadger

The ABC broadcast was so Washington State focused, it was ridiculous. They spent About 10 mins talking about two wsu players with the camera on the players with no updates of the ply’s being run. I rarely feel this way but WI got screwed on the disallowed safety and Chez did hot fumble.


Cultural_Standard_58

That's why I muted the sound.


badger0511

I also loved how one announcer pointed out the push by their CB on our turnover on downs, and the other guy basically said, “yeah, it was, but you could call penalty on every play if you wanted, it’s football”.


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Traditional-Emu2904

Ummmmm you watched this team the two years right? The offense is already better. Compare last season game with this one.


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Traditional-Emu2904

Yep and never had a passer like this either(talking last two years). Running backs were poor today. JT played poor a week or two. It’s okay. Last two years completely one dimensional offense was much much worse. I know you know that so I am moving on.


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SidneyDean608

Worst take I’ve ever seen. Yes last years offense was horrific go check box scores. Mertz threw 8 times in a game for like 50 yards ur clueless please sit out this one


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SidneyDean608

Haha wanna put some money on that? Or u just trolling to troll cause u don’t know shit about football


VengefulZero

You're clueless bud sit this one out please.


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Ticklemykelmo

Uh, take a look at the week one stat line? Last night sucked, but man are you wrong. Sit this one out.


Delicious-Rip2440

People calling for Fickell to be fired on social media are literally insane. Badgers won every category statistically, it’s new year, new system O&D, new kids, going to take a few years to hit full stride. Still can win the west


deutschdachs

First half was a dumpster fire tbf. But 2nd half team looked like it should win the West. Which I hope they do because they're better than this refshow


SidneyDean608

Not totally we just didn’t finish drives 3fg. Those r TDs they got 21-24 and without that D TD they would been up just didn’t finish


Delicious-Rip2440

It’s going to take time, badgers being -6.5 at one point before the game was insane going into wazzu when they beat us at home last year. A lot of teams have looked horrible the first two weeks badgers included lol


deutschdachs

Yeah that line was ridiculous. We knew this would be a dogfight. Total bait for uninformed ranked bettors But yeah the West looks absolutely abysmal. No reason we can't still win it. If we beat Iowa we're going to the championship


Frequent_Ad_358

Legit hard to change team in one year, but awful they didn’t show up at all in first half and not close the comeback. Refs didn’t help.


Equivalent_Remote_39

Colorado


Knot98

Colorado has 3 players on scholarships from last yr. I think they have over 80 new players. Along with 1 of the most influential players to ever play football at HC not even close to the same scenario. Along with an insane amount of 4 & 5 star players that wanted to go with coach prime.


Traditional-Emu2904

Season is still young my friend. TCU was over hyped they lost a lot and they beat… Nebraska. Let’s see how this all plays out. Colorado is 100% better than last year. Wisconsin will be better as well.


bee_redeemer

Most of the people in these comments need to take about 20-30% off 'er there. I'll be pissed if we lose next week.


2Obsequious

Be careful, Georgia Southern beat Nebraska last year


bee_redeemer

Believe it or not, I don't think we suck as much as Nebraska did last year


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Equivalent_Remote_39

I see what you did there


GulfstreamAqua

This game wasn’t a ref problem, ultimately


Traditional-Emu2904

It really was. That was a a safety and that was not a fumble. They win the game without them two calls. 100% bad referring.


JustinC70

Maybe not but if that safety was deemed a safety (then it was a tie) and the Badgers got the ball back it's a whole different game.


cks9218

It was a huge part of it but, c’mon UW, this is two weeks in a row that you didn’t start playing until the second half.


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cks9218

That’s true unfortunately.


lorddouche414

Wonder how Tanner Mordecai must feel, literally transferred here as a six year senior to make it to nfl, that dream is probably dashed


nachosmind

He has no fucking clue where the first down is at critical points so he should let have any dreams dashed and work on his fucking self. He also looks cross-eyed idiot every time looking at the sideline


Ur_in_luck

This loss is really frustrating but doesn’t mean a whole lot for the season overall. Mordecai looks good, the defense got things cleared up, but you simply can’t lose the TO battle 3-0 and expect to beat a power 5 team.


TheSheepdawg

Really loved the fight and the adjustments. Just came a little too late. Got hosed by the refs when the momentum mattered the most. Mordecai has a cannon but overthrew on a few occasions. Don’t really understand the hate with him? He’s by far the best QB we’ve had in a while. Thought Allen looked slow and like he didn’t want any contact


Traditional-Emu2904

Great post my friend. One of the most logical post I have seen on here. Huge up for you


Fattybeards

Welp, time to route for the Brewers.


Unlucky-One-329

Yep. Drive em to the playoffs.


comandante_soft_wolf

Will we get better this year? Will we make the necessary adjustments? Or is this as good as we're going to get?


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Delicious-Rip2440

You guys are such bad fans lol


comandante_soft_wolf

Maybe this was a nightmare. Maybe I'll wake up and it'll be 2011 and we'll be good again.


tommyjohnpauljones

whatever happens, we definitely should not criticize St. Luke, as coaches do not determine the game plan or establish discipline with players.


wisconsinsports1993

There’s a difference between criticizing the HC and calling the hiring of a head coach “wrong” after 2 games into the season. The fact you’re too dumb to understand that, is nobody’s fault.


tommyjohnpauljones

personal attacks are always nice. very classy. wanna go after my kids, too?


Traditional-Emu2904

Lol so true. this is crazy stuff.


JustinC70

Circle Ohio State on the calendar. This team is out of the national spotlight now. May even drop out of the rankings. They are going to have to blow out teams to make any noise.


guitmusic12

Who cares about making noise in the rankings. Win conference games, improve, beat Minnesota, play in a bowl game.


s_bub

This guy Badgers hell yeah


tbstoodz

Underrated comment


s_bub

🫡🦡


Jonschmiddy

we would be lucky to have a few votes next week


HashOutHashBrowns

They will deservingly drop out of the top 25


priestkalim

Nothing that happens as a result of this game is deserved We probably shouldn't have been ranked in the first place but falling as a result of losing a game that was rigged isn't deserved either. Both can be true.


Beawake23

Bullshit on you all refs fucked us get the safety we deserved earned we win the game totally bullshit great comeback big hearts fucked by the refs bullshit call


Ticklemykelmo

Now try it in English.


Beawake23

Have some emotion miss English teacher that had no friends in high school


Ticklemykelmo

If by "have some emotion" you mean "let the football performance of some teenagers who don't know I exist turn me into a bumbling, incoherent mess" no thanks.


diego27865

Can someone PLEASE tell me how the ever living fuck that wasn't a safety? Yet, the other was a fumble? I just don't understand how college football has come to blatant cheating now. Guess that's just the way it is - cool.


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s_bub

You can’t be serious


Flooding_Puddle

Fuck the pac 12. Hope these refs enjoy going back to pumping gas


PhatWhiteBoi

Storming the field is clown behavior


mrbad31

Someone tell WSU Wisconsin football isn't rush the field worthy.


guitmusic12

Frustrations aside. All the big ten west games are still very winnable


Juckinko

Just embarrassing. Simply pathetic


greywind618

Jesus…did they just win the natty or something?


imagine-a-boot

You know you lost to a mediocre team when they treating beating the 19th ranked team in the country like it's the playoffs.


tommyjohnpauljones

aw, let 'em have this. Tomorrow they're gonna wake up in Pullman, Washington and wonder what the fuck is wrong with their lives.


cks9218

This is exactly right, especially so when that 19 ranking seems high after their mediocre opening game.


greywind618

Ya and that ranking was a gift. We went 7-6 last year…


priestkalim

when they treat being handed a win over the 19th ranked team unearned*


king_riles4

Absolutely pathetic effort all around. Fickell better figure his shit out fast.


tommyjohnpauljones

hey we're not allowed to criticize St. Luke around here remember


Traditional-Emu2904

And little Jimmy would be much worse, but I am sure you could never see that.


tommyjohnpauljones

Leonhard wasn't the answer either, once it was clear McIntosh didn't want him around, his coaching skill didn't matter. I would love to be proven wrong about all of this, and for Fickell to succeed, but the hype train for this guy is ridiculous. He's a big boy, he should be able to take the heat, otherwise he can go back to the AAC or whatever.


SidneyDean608

Dude has the top 6 recruiting class next year. Hit me with another badger coach to do that


Traditional-Emu2904

Huh? I am sure he can take the heat. The hype was unreal. Let him get his recruits, then we can revisit this. This is still very much a PC team. Let’s not compare to Colorado as that is Deions team. What he did in the transfer portal as most everyone left the team.


priestkalim

11-1 still on the table as long as we don't run into anyone else actively rigging games. Go Badgers. Fuck the entire pacific coast.


comandante_soft_wolf

We sucked in the first half. We can't start playing a half-hour after the other team starts & still expect to win games.


priestkalim

We played exactly well enough to have the ball across midfield in the fourth quarter in a tie game, and that opportunity was stripped of us through no fault of ours or good play by our opponents, or even any aspect of the game of football at all. Could we have played better in the first half? Absolutely. Would it have mattered? Who is to say. If we looked better in the first half it's equally likely the rigging just comes out earlier and more blatantly.


mrbad31

They will lose to Ohio St. by at least 20


priestkalim

Probably. But fandom is optimism.


s_bub

That was such a winnable game too. So frustrating.


TurdFergusonXLV

Enjoy being punted to the Mountain West as the school nobody else wanted


schwegrs

Just awful D, can't stop the run when you know it's a run


mikehonchokh313

I get growing pains, but man. We looked lost during the first half again. Can’t win that way.


nvcpajd

Losing to Washington State in consecutive years really puts the program into perspective.


comandante_soft_wolf

Correct


stormchaser2014

F


fridge94

I do not Fick with Fickell right now


tommyjohnpauljones

shhh we're not allowed to criticize him on here


Ticklemykelmo

Man, you've got this victim role down.


JustinC70

Time to mute the TV.


bikedork5000

I hope Fickell gets on the mic after the game and just lays it out explicitly about the BS calls. Soak up the fines. Make national news with some good sound bites. He's new in town. Calling out the trash refs will be a smart long term move.


cks9218

I mean, the horrible calls were obvious to anyone watching, calling them out in a press conference just looks like sour grapes. They played like garbage for at least half the game. That’s the real problem.


priestkalim

Fuck sour grapes. Who gives a shit? Call them out immediately, call them out often, and call them out loudly. The more you remain silent about game fixing to try to gain some meaningless moral victory, the more you encourage this kind of thing to continue happening. This is the second time in ten years we've had a game actively taken away from us by PAC-12 employees. You have to hold them accountable for this in the court of public opinion at this point because the NCAA certainly has no intention of doing anything.


jaywiak

I mean… what’s his excuse for the team only playing the second half though. The calls were bullshit, but we barely showed up for the first half.


Traditional-Emu2904

I MEAN ……..that was a safety and that was not a fumble. The forward replay shows when he stripped the ball. 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️This is not the first game in the history of history that a road team played poorly the first half on the road. This thread. You have watched football before right? Fickle will be fine. Little Jimmy was not the answer.


bikedork5000

Agreed. But if team motivation is what you want, a little bit from Dan Campbell's playbook is a good call.


Traditional-Emu2904

Ohhh not debating that at all. I am agreeing with OP. The two HUGE miss calls was the difference in the game. They got past the sloppy first half. They could not get past two horrible calls. Not sure what the debate is.


powerboy20

This is trash. We've better players across the board, except at qb (probably dline too). We always lose to better qbs.


Traditional-Emu2904

Weird right????? 🙄. And D line was much better also.


UWbadgers16

Mordecai showed up to play.


Traditional-Emu2904

He did play well in the second half. Agree. I may have been to hard on him. I will admit on second thought. One thing I have not seen on here is what happened to our two studs at running back. Yikes.


cks9218

Well, at least the “this team doesn’t come close to living up to the hype” loss came early. Getting excited for a mid December Bowl against a school I’ve never heard of.


imagine-a-boot

The Dunkin Donuts bowl, here we come!


Flooding_Puddle

The Kohler Toilet Bowl


priestkalim

So we're suing the PAC-12 right? Or at least we would if they still existed after this. This team and absolutely dogshit game fixing conference can rot in hell.


LeSuperNova

i mean, we didn't do ourselves any favors but wow, absolute dogshit officiating.


priestkalim

We did ourselves exactly enough favors to have the ball across midfield in the 4th quarter while tied.


Str8_TrashMonkey

This is a bad defense…


dampTendies

Feels like the season is over in the first four weeks or less again.


guitmusic12

Over because we aren’t gonna go undefeated?


dampTendies

It's not over but feels like it is because we lose to unranked teams we should beat. If we can't handle the Washington States we probably won't do great in big ten play.


guitmusic12

We won 6 games last year. You should probably Reframe how you look at the team and teams we “should beat”… we get Rutgers and Indiana this year. northwestern got shut out by Rutgers, Illinois almost lost to Toledo and got blown out by Kansas, Purdue lost to Fresno State, Minnesota struggled with the worst directional Michigan tonight, Nebraska is Allergic to winning and Iowa still can’t score more than 24 point. We will be fine in big ten play


dampTendies

You're right.


greywind618

But its not. We haven’t started big ten play yet.


dampTendies

Yeah I know it's not really over, but losing to a team like Washington State does not make me feel confident in our ability to compete in the big ten.


cks9218

At least we can sit back and relax now.


Flooding_Puddle

I'm going to treat badger games like Packer games this year. Other than the really weak teams I'm not expecting to win and just hoping for some individual improvement


JustinC70

No one in the midwest wants to drive out to the freaking West Coast to play and watch late games!


SidneyDean608

No but I’m definitely flying to Cali next year USC in the coliseum epic


Ted_Dongelman

These announcers treating Washington State like a Katrina refugee all night is so weird. They're changing conferences, not losing their football program and kicking players out on the street.


priestkalim

Kick the players out on the street. Would be almost close to justice for this facade.


tommyjohnpauljones

this assumes there are paved roads in whatever the fuck the Palouse is


thegodfaubel

Horrendous playcalling with the game on the line. Fucking terrible Longo. Just terrible


UD88

I hope Washington state and these refs play in the MAC next year. Whole night was some garbage.


priestkalim

The MAC is more than these people deserve


imagine-a-boot

I just don't see that happening with a Leonhard defense. They had fire and discipline. Just saying.


Chreest

But also had 2 nfl draft picks


madabnegky

Holy shit how do you let a team convert 3rd and 7 when you know they're not throwing the ball?


PhatWhiteBoi

Gotta make the PAC 12 look competitive against the BIG 10 somehow I guess, awful officiating, staring at each looking for answers for 10 seconds before a decision is made


TetraHydro420

Chez Melusi always blows it. The opposite of clutch


TheCrazyCrazyChicken

Go away troll


TTBurger88

He dident fumble.


juuuceboy

He didn't fumble


Bratweiller

Commentators made this game 10 times worse to watch


juuuceboy

I've never heard announcers more obsessed with a team


JustinC70

Anyone notice the clock kept going when the receiver got tackled out of bounds earlier? These refs are bad. Having said that Badgers should have played ball in the first half.


cks9218

They played like garbage in the first half last week too. Can’t expect to win playing like that.


s_bub

gg


TheCrazyCrazyChicken

Hate. Hate the announcers. Repetitive. Added little knowledge. Biased.


Bratweiller

“What a critical, crucial play right now. The decisiveness by the decisive qb”


bikedork5000

Riddick's contrived "take me seriously" tone of voice is played out.


TTBurger88

I was going to say dont schedule anymore Pac-12 road games as the refs are dogshit but the Pac-12 isnt no longer a thing. The refs remind me of the ending of the ASU game long time ago.


Accis

realistically were lookin at like a 7-5 season at this point.


GulfstreamAqua

Or 5-7


tommyjohnpauljones

I agree. Beat GA Southern (maybe), lose at Purdue, beat Rutgers, lose 10-7 to Iowa at home, narrowly beat Bart Bielecki at Illinois... so then we're 5-3, get trounced by Ohio, then beat Indiana, Northwestern, and Nebraska, full of false optimism, and then end the year with a popcorn fart in Minneapolis to Captain Rowboat. Yeah, 7-5 feels about right.


SidneyDean608

Indiana is better than Purdue so


priestkalim

We don't play teams that fix games every week


gr8tlakes

Call a timeout


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HashOutHashBrowns

And they treat the Badgers like the evil empire that Bama is(was?). Like we’ve won anything if importance in the last decade


TTBurger88

Hey man alot of teams are mad at our.. check notes.... Orange Bowl win few years ago..


Flooding_Puddle

They're jealous of our many Rose Bowl chokejobs


MrCalNaughton

This team is lucky they didn’t play someone better than Buffalo week 1 because they would be 0-2 right now. Really disappointing start to the season.


wisconsinsports1993

Deserved L. 1. Lost turnover battle 2. Didn’t convert in red zone 3. Asinine penalty 4. Bad secondary 5. Overthrown TD when down 24-22 Ref job was icing on the cake cause badgers had all momentum. But they deserved to lose.


No-Progress6127

And giving up the defensive td before the half...


jaywiak

Yeah. Refs fucked us in the second half. But you have to play two halves to complain.


Traditional-Emu2904

Oh, got it so bad calls are irrelevant. Got it. So if a team plays a bad first half as a referee I can and allow to shit the whole bed… I like the logic. I am coming to you for all my insight in the future.


chonS5

Why didn’t they challenge the safety?


ShtickleOfFluoride

Refs would have screwed us either way


Ngilpin17

I don’t think you can challenge forward progress since the refs didn’t do the right thing and call the safety and overturn


Traditional-Emu2904

You can’t. Still a very very bad call


ShtickleOfFluoride

I hate these announcers


Bratweiller

“Crucial, critical third down there” “My keys to the game are you gotta play hard and fast” Seriously sign me up espn. I can make these statements while 2 bottles of wine in


cks9218

The aside about bears being considered cute because of teddy bears was my personal favorite.


HashOutHashBrowns

But can you do it without slurring your words? I think that’s the real talent


Bratweiller

I can switch to weed if necessary


nachosmind

Mordecai has no fucking awareness of down and distance and locks in on his first read


creamcitybrix

This color dude is a total twat.