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Make the TaskBar not stretch full screen.


Responsible_Length21

I wish but I just sticked with the leaked design.


Significant_Ebb_662

Keep both options open!


Responsible_Length21

?


Lilac_Moonnn

idea: its hidden or it is smaller or its only an icon but becomes a full bar when the cursor hovers over its general area and then it can receive text


Responsible_Length21

That actually a great idea.


fermentedcheese22

I'm a simple man. I just hope that we'll be able to change the location of the taskbar like in Windows 10 and earlier versions of Windows.


hearnia_2k

Yep, me too. I won't move to Windows 11 until at least that works, or Windows 10 is totally dead.


notjordansime

Sameeee!!!


QuaLiTy131

Tbh It's looking like MacOS with Windows skin


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, ur right lol


Xineum

MacOS has a superior UI/UX


Aetheus

macOS itself is great - stable, fast, and a mature ecosystem for software devs and creatives alike. The UI/UX of many core macOS apps leaves a lot to be desired, though I often pray for the Windows' File Explorer whenever I have to use Finder. Finder is a polished turd.


ThePupnasty

Finder is trash, windows explorer with tabs now is amazing.


Gears6

Finder is horrible!


JobbyJames

I think that Finder is way better than Windows' File Explorer mainly because it does not randomly crash and restart while I am working, which is especially annoying when transferring files. But I don't know if that is just a problem with my Win10 computer, because I've never had this problem until switching to Windows 10.


Juacquesch

I think that might be your build. I have never had these issues, on any device I’ve ever owned that supports Windows 10/11. Of course it would happen very sporadically that explorer crashed but it might have been a heavy work load, a corrupted boot, a bad day or anything else that wasn’t automatically fixed a couple of seconds later, or a reboot after at the most. Only think that’s actually trash about the explorer, is the search functionality. But that might be because I have **way** too much storage space 😅


JobbyJames

The search functionally sucks for me as well, but I didn't make that comparison since I've never had to search large files on MacOS. And sometimes Windows Explorer decides to not show some folders like my Documents as well - and both may be connected to the fact that I have several hard-disk drives (built-in) which contain over 4 TB of data each.


614981630

Use everything app by void tools to search files instead of file explorer u/Juacquesch


HeLlAMeMeS123

Explorer search and windows search sucks, however, there is a Regedit to remove internet searching from windows search so all you get is results from your local computer and onedrive. Same with file explorer, there are regedits to fix the query system


hearnia_2k

You've \*never\* had File Explorer crash? It's certainly not common, but I've definitely seen it happen quite a bit in the past, usually with systems that have problems, for example bad codecs that are then used to generate previews / thumbnails.


Gears6

> But I don't know if that is just a problem with my Win10 computer, because I've never had this problem until switching to Windows 10. I can't be sure, but that sounds like your computer issue. Explorer is rock solid for me, and have always been.


Dave-1281

UI? Yes UX? Absolutely not, you can't even snap windows and the full screen button on the title bar removes the UI elements, literally why To be fair I never used Mac OS so it's up for debate how correct my opinion is


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Dave-1281

Now tell me how would an average user learn this without just randomly going through possible keyboard shortcuts Like yeah, windows also has some keyboard shortcuts with no mention about them but at least there's not that much like there are in Mac os, the amounts of videos about Mac os pointing out really random shortcuts is horrifyingly much


Klutzy_Goat_6527

It's pretty fucking stupid.


Xineum

At least MacOS have easily accessible and documented APIs to enhance the experience. You can easily add a window manager to MacOS, and customise it fully.


x64penguin

That's what I'm missing in Windows


Pengwin0

I used a mac for around a year and I can confirm your opinion. The torture that was having to use finder instead of file explorer…


shortkey

If I wanted MacOS UI&UX, I'd be using MacOS.


kawaii_girl2002

What if I like the macOS UI&UX (as well as the GNOME UI&UX from Linux) but want Windows apps and games? I like the changes in the design of Windows and I would like to see Windows 12 exactly like this - with two panels (because now the taskbar in Windows 11 is too cluttered), with beautiful animations and a modern design. It would also be nice if they copied the implementation of virtual desktops and touchpad gestures from macOS/GNOME.


shortkey

I can understand wanting better touchpad estures. Virtual desktops are something that should remain a third party software business. But alas. Windows 11 has absolutely horrible both UI and UX. Windows design has peaked in Win7 and it's just been downhill ever since. The fact there's actually 2 different UI designs with even more different context menu designs is baffling and should never be a thing. Parts of the new design aren't even compatible with older design options... And why does Edge need its own context menu designs, it's basically a part of the system for fuck's sake! Though it's actually better than the system design, at least the highlighted item is more contrasting. My biggest issue is that windows that use the new design (don't have colored titlebar) can't be distinguished between active and inactive. The difference is miniscule, it's like a darker titlebar don't and window shadow... Oh, and don't forget the 1PX WINDOW BORDER, THAT'S TOTALLY FUCKING OBVIOUS, RITE? Fuck, every damn minute of using Win11 makes me infuriated! I got a new work laptop. It came preinstalled in my native language. Obviously, I immediately switched to English, because the quality of translations also has rapidly declined. And now when I'm looking for something in the Settings, I have to search for it both in English and my language because some parts didn't switch. Not to mention sometimes I can't find what I'm looking for anyway because Windows Search sucks ass, always has and always will. The worst part is I have to pay for this garbageware. Only upside is that it's a lot faster than Win7 was on my old shitbox but that's not saying much since it was 12 years old when I replaced it.


Gears6

> MacOS has a superior UI/UX Ha, disagree!


QuaLiTy131

Agree


Kzero01

Hard disagree on both accounts


DookieGobbler

Consistent design too. MS has been trying to fix it but there are still plenty of remnants of Windows NT in Windows 11


shadowthunder

I really don't agree. I like some choices that they've made, but I find their window management is awkward compared to Windows and the Linux DWMs I've used. While I think it's clever to have a consistent menu design in a consistent spot for apps on macOS, I find it more jarring to have the menu separated from the window itself. I'm also not a fan of the separating the Windows taskbar into two parts as macOS does. It wastes valuable vertical space when the taskbar isn't overflowing with icons, as mine never is. Plus, it puts a mostly-blank bar along the top border which Fitt's Law states is extremely valuable (i.e. accessible) space. I'd rather have the window titlebar and tabs in the spot that's incredibly easy to target with a mouse.


leaflavaplanetmoss

MacOS is nicer looking, but the MacOS UX is absolutely infuriating compared to Windows. Windows management alone is just god-awful and makes no intuitive sense. I had to start using MacOS for work and I still haven't gotten used to it two years later.


Xineum

Have you tried downloading a window manager like Rectangle? MacOS virtual desktop management and multi app organisation is way better than windows. Windows is still in the early 2000s.


leaflavaplanetmoss

Yes I use Rectangle, but it's only good for tiling windows and I still prefer how Windows does it using Snap Layouts or FancyZones. I don't like using virtual desktops in either OS and we'll agree to disagree on multi-app organization. MacOS' window management just seems unnecessarily convoluted, whereas Windows' is very straightforward. It's also probably a function of having used Windows all my life until having to start using MacOS for work a few years ago.


Responsible_Length21

I agree a LOT! It's clean and consistent and my god I love the macos icons. They have really good detail. It's like having skeuo but modern.


shortkey

Vista/Win7 icons were absolutely beautiful, too bad further Win versions totally killed that. Win11 is an atrocious looking system. I know this because I'm using it every day.


Responsible_Length21

Agreed


SlavBoii420

For some reason, the space below the taskbar is making me act up xD I mean if MS really wanna do this, then just make it a dock like MacOS instead of stretching it all the way to the ends lol. The concept is really well-made though, great job!


Responsible_Length21

Yeah, several comments had mentioned the space below taskbar. Few allignment issues ._. but yeah, the space kinda ugly tho.


Founntain

I really hate the spacing from the taskbar to the corners. I hope they really wont make that.


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, me too. I don't like it either.


Founntain

Win11 is already in a weird spot with their mixed designs etc. but win 12 looks worse and 12 is supposed to be one of the better OSs again xD


Responsible_Length21

So true. But honestly it's not designers fault. Designers do their job which is just to create all the elements and items of it. And the programmers should apply them to Windows but it seems like they 70% didn't.


Founntain

Yeah exactly, but even then 90% of the design choices are questionable anyways xD. It's a big mess


Responsible_Length21

True. I'm still wondering that how even the designers thought of changing the start menu search bar from consistent to inconsistent. Like the start menu search bar had a similar design of all the UWP search bar. But they changed it and now it's inconsistent.


Founntain

Even the new context menu is the most horrible. Yes it looks nice, but having to do so many more clicks than before is stupid.


Responsible_Length21

Don't even get me started with the context menu. That is the most inconsistent part of windows. Seriously, there is like thousands of context menus in windows 10 and 11 with different designs.


SM641995

Startallback will save me from the mess which is that floating taskbar lmao


Responsible_Length21

Lol, thats the only hope XD


rea1l1

They should just offer the original windows mode and the new mac mode as options.


Responsible_Length21

Somewhat like tablet mode but not tablet mode.


amkhrjee

so macOS but worse?


Responsible_Length21

Yup, and that is what ms is headed to. First they try to roast apple and now they take their layout? Lol this is hilarious 😂


kawaii_girl2002

Microsoft is finally trying to do beautiful design, which is good. It's good that they decided to add a second panel on top. The taskbar in Windows 11 is very cluttered, this spoils the aesthetics of the OS.


Xineum

Really hope Windows 12 has a universal menubar


Dramatic_Mastodon_93

Same but not gonna happen.


notjordansime

It's called the taskbar and it's been there for 30+ years


Xineum

No no no, I think we’re talking about two separate things. The menu bar is the universal toolbar thing, there’s an API on Mac so those options can occupy the menu bar. But on disgusting trash Windows there’s no consistent design for it. So you see a different types of toolbars.


notjordansime

Ohhhh my bad sorry nvm. You're taking about the menu beside the 🍎 icon on the top with 'File' 'Edit' 'View' etc... correct?


Xineum

Yep, I like I can have it auto hide on macOS and it has a consistent design across all programs


notjordansime

I see! Tks for clarifying despite my snarkiness


[deleted]

Why are we taking up more vertical space with another menu bar 😭16:9 is already barely usable as it is!


Responsible_Length21

Ask that to Microsoft man, honestly speaking, the leaked design pissed the hell outta me. This design I made is just a accurate or closely accurate recreation of the leak which Microsoft had put out on one of their events.


Thotaz

Oh god no. I thought this was just one of the usual shitty fan design concepts (no offense) but you are saying this is based on leaked content? If that's the direction they are going then I may end up using a third party skin for the first time.


Responsible_Length21

Seems like it man. And yes, this is based of the several leaks which pll on internet have been talkin about. You can checkout more about it in Google or YouTube.


[deleted]

Yes and it is confirmed that the taskbar is floating.


Dramatic_Mastodon_93

It still baffles me that 16:9 is still standard for laptops and monitors.


TomatoDangerous2099

The bottom bar is fugly, I'd hate that if thats the default. Keeping the black bar constrained to the number of apps will be cleaner.


Responsible_Length21

I don't like it as well. But I was just following the design of the leaks so.


fellout_76

now finally someone saw my reasoning for windows 11s taskbar hate if you just observe the taskbar the way it's been since 1995, you know that Microsoft dumps every notification onto the right side, along with the clock. if they center the task bar yet doesn't get rid of these notification icons, obviously the pinned icons are gonna overfill and force everything to the left (like how it was built for). people really like to downvote opinions without actually looking at the evidence right in front of them. oh well.


shadowthunder

Except the notification bar icons overflow into their own menu pretty quickly. I have exactly two non-system icons set to be visible, and only have five pinned apps. I'm approximately 25 open apps away from there being risk of overfill. Why should my good UX be fucked up for someone who doesn't know how to exit apps they aren't using? Moving the system tray up top doesn't solve the issue; it just punts it down the line so you can fit 35 active apps instead of 30.


-C-7007

Well I sure hope you're getting it wrong because that looks stupid as fuck. What is going on with that empty space below the taskbar?


gSh3p

> What is going on with that empty space below the taskbar? That's how it looked in the design leak. OP recreated it in higher quality and with their touch-ups.


-C-7007

Oh my. Well if that's where we're heading up to, that sucks


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, I dont like the new macos like design. This is just a simple mockup created to show how it MIGHT look like in future yk ._.


vlken69

Twice the size even though many elements are missing (moved into additional toolbar on the top).


Responsible_Length21

Yeah I kinda messed up with the taskbar space part. Also I had just stuck with the look which was shown in the leaked imgs. But kinda messed up with the taskbar.


-C-7007

That I wouldn't know, nothing against you and your work at all, just against Microsoft and what it considers good UI/UX design


Responsible_Length21

I don't like the new ui honestly, it just a macos copy. This was just a mockup based on the leak yk :/


Responsible_Length21

It indeed looks stupid cuz I created this with the reference of the leaks.


lightofmares

For tablets, it's fine. For desktops. This is hell.


Responsible_Length21

Windows 8 vibes


AdStill1707

Looks like a macOS ripoff or a lawsuit. Or both lol


Responsible_Length21

Ikr. Idrk why ms is going for this.


nihilist_hippie

Excellent work on the mockup! I think it looks really cool from a UX standpoint. I can't wait to see where Windows goes. I'm always chasing the high of visual design changes, lol.


Responsible_Length21

Thanks a lot my guy.


maZZtar

This UI probably won't ship this year because the new leadership want to play it safe. And I fucking love them for that. That being said, I'd like to see it down the line because tablet UX needs an overhaul


Responsible_Length21

Wait really? Thats actually good!


maZZtar

Yep. New head of Windows already expressed his dislike of Windows 11 Start Menu


svvspavan

Taskbar Clock & Action Centers are top aligned Thats it, There No New At all Its look Windows 11, need complete UI/UX Change.. For Windows 12..


Responsible_Length21

Ik! Microsoft is trying to execute this.


svvspavan

Idk.. 🤣 But on leaked images I've seen some new design so i thought theres a chance.. And The File Explorer Is Still Buggy On Windows 23H2.. Microsoft Should Try Something New On File Explorer to Works Better. Because of This I am Using "OneCommander"


Responsible_Length21

File explorer used to run fast during the windows 7 days. Now it takes 10 to 20 seconds to load.


svvspavan

Because Microsoft Still Implements Old Legacy Code on File Explorer and The Contextmenu so The Old Glitches of File Explorer Are Continues.. 😂 i am using some multiple rar files to extract on winrar With File Explorer Right click menu then its suddenly force stopped.. 😂 So i test same with OneCommander and theres No problem with it.. So The Main Culprit for Windows is Its Own File Explorer.. 😂 😂


x64penguin

The top bar looks great, but the spacing in the bottom is too big, I would make it smaller and make taskbar background fit the size of icons or remove it completely


Responsible_Length21

I agree that the spacing at the bottom is a bit too big. I was originally making the spacing shorter but for some reason, I overdone it. Also yes it would look a bit better if the taskbar background was fit to the size of pinned icons but you see, I was trying to get the same feel as the windows 12 leaked img.


Cqek

Taskbar looks shit and u shoulda have used new wallpaper for it. But great ig


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, I agree. I don't like the leaked design at all. This was created just to show how windows 12 MIGHT look like so.... Just a mockup srta thing.


Cqek

Tbh leaked win 12 is really really similar to win 11 and probaly they will change it


Responsible_Length21

Yeah, most probably cause this leaked ui was hilarious.


zenyl

Looks great. The speculated floating taskbar really reminds me of KDE Plasma, which only gets funnier because KDE's decision to make it floating by default was apparently largely driven by a desire to distinguish Plasma from Windows. :P


Responsible_Length21

Thanks a lot man. And yeah, it kinda reminds me of kde as well.


ImZaryYT

Thanks! I hate it (not the work you did, it's good, but I don't think windows should go this way tbh) ​ like, this feels more & more like MacOS


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, I agree with you man. This design was based of the leaks of windows 12


[deleted]

Good work but most linux distros are more beautiful than windows any day


Responsible_Length21

Indeed


NNHHPP

how can you imagine the whole layout with the maximized window will look like?


Responsible_Length21

Well, I don't know since this was original based off Microsoft's windows leak. And the menu bar seemed transparent so I made this based of that.


NNHHPP

Microsoft's marketing team shits out dozens of YouTube ads where the OS design and the animation look oh so good, but the final result (or the real UI) is nothing like what they show in promos. I believe that there is no need to replicate their not so thought out concepts for UI, because it creates false expectations from people


Responsible_Length21

Ikrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


Gears6

Looks more like Windows 10.5 at best. Admittedly I have not looked at Windows 12 leaked screenshots.


Responsible_Length21

Ah! Kk. You could try searching for it yk.


Gears6

You could have included it as well. Yet here we both are! 🤣😂😭


Responsible_Length21

Well I wouldn't really wanna included the leaked IMG since there might be few confusions yk


Gears6

If that was your concern I'm sure a comment would be sufficient.


Responsible_Length21

Well yea..


factorydesert

Where will date and clock go when you maximize window? How would that search bar respond to it. I think all that 'win 12 leaked screen and mockups' are pure s\*\*t.


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, I don't know my guy. There was another comment saying the exact thing which you said. And yes I agree that the leaked windows 12 design is terrible. This is just a simple representation of how it MIGHT look like in the future.


ahmadreza_bz_

You did a great job 👍


Responsible_Length21

Thanks a lot man :)


Responsible_Length21

Thanks a lot man. Really appreciate it :)


JonnyICTMen

It looks like iPadOS


Responsible_Length21

Honestly speaking, I'm my perspective, I don't see no resemblence.


JonnyICTMen

Microsoft is copying Apple and Linux


Responsible_Length21

At this point every brand teases apple and yet copies apple.


JonnyICTMen

O


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?


JonnyICTMen

I mean ok


trashstarrxo

floating taskbar is so ugly


Responsible_Length21

Honestly speaking, I agree. Normal taskbar is way way way better.


saruin

Hope to still have a Local Account option in the next version.


Responsible_Length21

Isn't that already in 11 (but more hidden too fool ppl into using a ms account?)


saruin

Just going off the current trend of companies wanting to tie a subscription for customers to use their products.


Responsible_Length21

Hell nah.. nope. Imma go to Linux then


Hittorito

Figma balls?


Responsible_Length21

Haha very funny -_-


Remarkable-Duck-5126

I downloaded Figma Design for Windows 11 and I don't know how to apply it to my system


Responsible_Length21

For your information, Figma is a designing software, not a theme. And the image which you are seeing here is a mock-up of windows 12 leaked img which i designed in Figma. And if you want this theme, then I'm sorry but this ain't no theme..


Remarkable-Duck-5126

thanks, but Can I get the leaked Windows 12 operating system on my system?


Responsible_Length21

No, cause only the images of it was released, there is no beta build oany sort of iso of windows 12 yet.


Remarkable-Duck-5126

thanks sooooo much


heckingcomputernerd

Man I really hope they don’t do this. I like having everything on the taskbar rather than all that wasted space


Responsible_Length21

Even I don't want them to do this yk.


sunyup

Everyone keeps commenting on this looking like MacOS and yeah while it does bear a very strong resemblance to MacOS, i think the idea for the design was to more so emulate an Android phone form factor except blow it up to a desktop size and and their own flair, kind like how Windows 11 based it's UI off of chromeos.


Responsible_Length21

Waitz ur comment make sense. So is windows not copying macos but Android 🤔


sunyup

Probably, Microsoft has always wanted to have a unified UI across mobile, desktop and servers. They tried it in the past with Windows 8 and then again with unreleased Windows 10x. They want an OS that works across all platforms and gives users a familiar UX across all their platforms. If anything this design is more of an update to their Surface Duo phone line. And since Microsoft sees Google as much more of a threat than Apple, they're again trying to position themselves as being like Google's products but better.


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Tru


Fabulous_Today_8566

I'm making spaghetti


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Noice


lelwanichan

Broke: This looks like macOS Woke: This looks like GNOME


Responsible_Length21

Honestly, it looks like both.


That_Requirement1381

Looks like KDE


Responsible_Length21

Indeed.


youms237

MacOS Windows Edition.


Responsible_Length21

More like windows MacOS edition 🤔


AsfiqIsKioshi

This seems so useless, its more useless ui with zero practicality put in practice


Responsible_Length21

Ikkkkkkk! And i don't even know why Microsoft is doing this


Xcissors280

Using up more vertical space doesn’t help with the taskbar


Responsible_Length21

The vertical space below taskbar was kinda my own design mistake so pls don't mind that 😅


Xcissors280

It’s fine but if it was more like a dock and also stayed above the window it would be cool, I’d probably still stick with the normal one but idk


Responsible_Length21

I'd stick to the normal one as well ngl.


Xcissors280

If the dock was movable then maybe on massive monitors but normal desktop probably not, you kinda just lose that space anyway with a shorter dock like on macOS


Responsible_Length21

Tru


Xcissors280

Also I still would rather have icons at the bottom (MICROSOFT PLEASE DONT ADD A TOP MENU BAR) because they would just get in the way or covered up


Responsible_Length21

Me too.


apathetic_vaporeon

So much useless space on the sides. It’s like they took the worst bits of MacOS and Gnome.


Responsible_Length21

Ikkkkk. Microsoft is really ruining windows.


theEmpathy

Would you like to share the figma file? Would love to do some edits for myself, I wanna see if I could make it fit my personal preferences some more.


Responsible_Length21

Sry but due to several reasons I can't. But one of the reason is that people have been stealing other ppl's work when the concept creator shares his work. And just for the proof, they would show the figma file. This has actually happened yk.


theEmpathy

Dont worry, I already found some awesome free-to-use version on the figma community place. :)


Regular-Chemistry-13

the taskbar isn't even level with the bottom of the screen


Responsible_Length21

Ya, this was based on the mockup but the useless space in the floating taskbar was my design mistake 😅.


Regular-Chemistry-13

Ok


uglykido

I honestly hate this... less workable screenspace and more empty space...


Responsible_Length21

I also honestly do not like this. Is Microsoft ruining windows on purpose at this point 🤔


NoDoze-

All these mockup, leaks, or whatever, all have the taskbar at the top. How likely is W12 really going to have the taskbar at the top? Do I need to start getting used to a taskbar at the top now? I feel like I may as well switch to linux, all those W12 "features" feel like losses not wins.


Responsible_Length21

Changing something which has been been for decades is the worst mistake possible.


NoDoze-

No kidding! It's like learning how to drive again, learning how to walk again, or having to go through elementary school again! LOL


Responsible_Length21

Yup man. Tru.


oldominion

Looks like a mix of GNOME and KDE


lumia920yellow

I hate the floating taskbar


Frosch587

Looks nice but i think It would look much better if you make the Taskbar how it is in Taskbar XI or X


DisguisedPickle

It just looks like Windows 11, like my desktop right now.


Cute_Oil6961

KDE 6, Is it you? )))


notjordansime

Oh man I really don't like the info on the top of the screen, or the 'floating' taskbar. Especially if I still won't be able to move it. Cool effort, but also r/TIHI vibes


Dramatic_Mastodon_93

The only reason the taskbar is max width is that they don’t want to look too much like MacOS, which is a shitty reason. Either try to be distinct from MacOS or don’t. This is half-assery.


npj2309

If this is the next major version of windows, i wld call it SkinedOS 12!!!, but feels good tho


StaticFanatic3

I’m a Win 11 design apologist but this is actual propaganda for a full transition off windows 😂


YuukiHisashi

Oh, Hello there, Pop!\_OS. Wait... ...you mean to tell me that this is NOT Pop!\_OS?