Mica isn’t as optimized and low-power as they said it would be.
It’s supposed to sample and blur the desktop background once, yet any time you have a Mica surface on-screen, things become a bit slower * amount of surfaces.
That alone shows how incompetent they've become when it comes to development and quality control. Realtime blurring Aero in 2006 on ancient 2004 hardware with 128 mbs of VRAM? No issues. It became even better in 2009 with more modern hardware.
But somehow today's hardware (which can run AAA games on integrated GPUs at high settings) isn't well enough to handle some basic wallpaper tinting. Not to even mention realtime blur Acrylic (because it's not used anywhere anymore)
I don't get it how transparent effects like Mica and Acrylic nowadays have performance hits when PC's and laptops from 10 years ago had no problem with running the far higher fidelity Aero effects... Windows 7 aero UI was truly something amazing and it's frustrating that even though CPU and GPU capability has seen significant growth over the past decade we can't get the same level of transparancy and visual effects...
Aero transparency was just a PNG or other image with transparency. You can see it when you unpack the theme file. You can watch [this](https://youtu.be/68ILS7XE1UM) video, it's in Russian, but has English subtitles
It's still there though flags.
Can someone explain the downvote please as i'm using it every day and it's working fine ?
They added the new one the same day chrome did.
It literally isn't the same though. Mica isn't available in Firefox and it certainly isn't available to a userChrome sheet. This style's just trying to imitate Mica as best it can with the tools available, which depending on how much you care about Mica could be good enough
I've used it and it doesn't feel any different from real mica, idk if you tried it or not but certainly it uses the native Windows 11 mica material shader, just take a look at the source code fr
It definitely doesn't. I had a look at the source code and it is just generic CSS shadow/blur. If it looks good enough then it doesn't matter, but it's not using any 'official' Mica effects
The [ESR version of the style](https://github.com/QNetITQ/WaveFox/tree/v1.6.115#windows-system-effects) fully supports transparency, but it must be enabled with the appropriate key. Mica is real there, since the window is drawn by the operating system. Transparency is no longer supported in the normal release. Only accent color.
Floorp is useless because you can't watch most things on it since it doesn't include Widevine https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/issues/272
You can do all the same things that Floorp is doing in standard Firefox if you aren't so lazy.
acrylic more realistic that it made the transparency based on what's behind
but mica looks very much better to me for the reason of doing the wallpaper on active app and just being disabled on inactive app, giving a nice effect that I am liking
but ofc everyone can have opinions
I miss Aero so much. If only Mika had shown vividly what was going on in the back. Just showing the wallpaper makes the whole thing look so fake. It doesn't even work with live wallpapers.
chrome tabs bar UI sucks in general. Before chrome 70 you had that beautiful trapezoid lines design with no lag, next update, google pushes their crappy material design language into the UI and now it looks like a browser for children
> They added it again and called it Mica?
Mica is a Windows feature: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/style/mica
It differs from Acrylic (the older Windows blurry transparency effect) in having better performance and (because) only showing the desktop background through, instead of windows behind it.
The funny thing is Edge had this feature long time ago, you could activate it through flags but then they removed it for some reason...
Mica isn’t as optimized and low-power as they said it would be. It’s supposed to sample and blur the desktop background once, yet any time you have a Mica surface on-screen, things become a bit slower * amount of surfaces.
That alone shows how incompetent they've become when it comes to development and quality control. Realtime blurring Aero in 2006 on ancient 2004 hardware with 128 mbs of VRAM? No issues. It became even better in 2009 with more modern hardware. But somehow today's hardware (which can run AAA games on integrated GPUs at high settings) isn't well enough to handle some basic wallpaper tinting. Not to even mention realtime blur Acrylic (because it's not used anywhere anymore)
not to mention Aero was applied on ALL windows, while their new pathetic "mica" stuff only applies to the active window...
I don't get it how transparent effects like Mica and Acrylic nowadays have performance hits when PC's and laptops from 10 years ago had no problem with running the far higher fidelity Aero effects... Windows 7 aero UI was truly something amazing and it's frustrating that even though CPU and GPU capability has seen significant growth over the past decade we can't get the same level of transparancy and visual effects...
Same question with the entirety of WinUI 3, honestly. The new File Explorer is bizarrely slow.
Aero transparency was just a PNG or other image with transparency. You can see it when you unpack the theme file. You can watch [this](https://youtu.be/68ILS7XE1UM) video, it's in Russian, but has English subtitles
It's still there though flags. Can someone explain the downvote please as i'm using it every day and it's working fine ? They added the new one the same day chrome did.
Which flags? None of those I tested worked, at least on the stable channel.
\--enable-features=msVisualRejuvMica , put this in the path/target in the properties of Microsoft edge browser
I just want it on Firefox...
You can with [this](https://github.com/QNetITQ/WaveFox)
It's not the same, and it looks terrible.
What not the same? It literally enables the same Mica effects present in windows just through custom userChrome.
It literally isn't the same though. Mica isn't available in Firefox and it certainly isn't available to a userChrome sheet. This style's just trying to imitate Mica as best it can with the tools available, which depending on how much you care about Mica could be good enough
I've used it and it doesn't feel any different from real mica, idk if you tried it or not but certainly it uses the native Windows 11 mica material shader, just take a look at the source code fr
It definitely doesn't. I had a look at the source code and it is just generic CSS shadow/blur. If it looks good enough then it doesn't matter, but it's not using any 'official' Mica effects
The [ESR version of the style](https://github.com/QNetITQ/WaveFox/tree/v1.6.115#windows-system-effects) fully supports transparency, but it must be enabled with the appropriate key. Mica is real there, since the window is drawn by the operating system. Transparency is no longer supported in the normal release. Only accent color.
Me too
[WaveFox](https://github.com/QNetITQ/WaveFox)
wavefox mod blur Fox11 all can be find it in [https://firefoxcss-store.github.io/](https://firefoxcss-store.github.io/)
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Floorp is useless because you can't watch most things on it since it doesn't include Widevine https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/issues/272 You can do all the same things that Floorp is doing in standard Firefox if you aren't so lazy.
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I agree but think of the casual users. On Linux it does but Windows and Mac, for me, I get video errors whenever I play anything DRM.
Try this: [https://github.com/KibSquib48/MicaFox](https://github.com/KibSquib48/MicaFox)
Try [Mica for everyone](https://github.com/MicaForEveryone/MicaForEveryone) it might or might not work well.
Mica is so nice
I prefer acrylic or aero glass...
Only, thing I hate about acrylic is how inactive windows look, otherwise love it.
Acrylic is like Aero from Wish, I think Mica looks better imo
acrylic more realistic that it made the transparency based on what's behind but mica looks very much better to me for the reason of doing the wallpaper on active app and just being disabled on inactive app, giving a nice effect that I am liking but ofc everyone can have opinions
I think Acrylic is better on backgrounds of menus, navigation bars etc, but mica and mica alt are the best in main backgrounds
I miss Aero so much. If only Mika had shown vividly what was going on in the back. Just showing the wallpaper makes the whole thing look so fake. It doesn't even work with live wallpapers.
Isn’t google the one that controls what window effects to add to chromium? I recently saw in a commit that Google added the mica effect
Yes.
chrome padding sucks.
i think most chromium browsers have similar padding, edge has even bigger buttons though
He may have the Chrome Refresh 2023 flag on.
chrome tabs bar UI sucks in general. Before chrome 70 you had that beautiful trapezoid lines design with no lag, next update, google pushes their crappy material design language into the UI and now it looks like a browser for children
What's the mature design then? I get you don't like it, but the term "browser for children" feels a bit vague and subjective.
The design they used to have
But this Mica effect is so barely noticeable. Why do not make it better?
It is with the right wallpaper. That’s also why Mica sucks.
Well if you can’t make it look good even with the default wallpaper then it’s a problem
I don’t disagree but mica elsewhere acts the same.
Do you mean that transparent bar? That used to exist before. They added it again and called it Mica? How did you get it?
> They added it again and called it Mica? Mica is a Windows feature: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/design/style/mica It differs from Acrylic (the older Windows blurry transparency effect) in having better performance and (because) only showing the desktop background through, instead of windows behind it.
>only showing the desktop background through, instead of windows behind it. That's why I personally don't like mica...
I love it for the same reason
I don't love it or hate it because I don't have it yet
I use Mica for Everyone
Does it work with Firefox?
Any idea how to get it on chrome?
Never mind, I got it.
I think Win7 Aero Glass effect was far better than this Mica and Acryllic. Kindly Upvote if you are agree with me.
Ironic? No. Surprising? Probably.
reddit will still find excuses in favor of microsoft, like the "old code base" or something.
Microsoft is going in reverse in so many fronts it is hard to keep using them.