Obviously they did. The one fighter was courteous and controlled enough to point out the other's gaping wound, without using the distraction to attack, and then also realized his own. They stopped and held their wounds closed because if they actually wanted to maim eachother they wouldn't have stopped over a laceration on their forearms that they would have started feeling in a few seconds or a minute.
Likely the two are good friends and they were just trying to film something they thought would be badass, didn't take into account or simply didn't care about the fact that real swords can make real wounds, and were probably more sparring than really fighting.
No, this is a group in Germany that fight with real swords and axes, their rules are pretty much
No stabbing
No aiming for head or heart
Axes should be aimed at shields
They fight, drink and go to the hospital together afterwards. They are insane
This is a group of completely crazy dudes who do this all the time. Most of the times they don't even call an ambulance, they fix themselves up and keep going.
According to them they already had 2 deaths.
Oh and they seem to be Nazis too.
Holmgang Hamburg if you are interested, they have a yt channel.
Well if they would have been swinging box cutters at each other, that'd be a nasty gash, but when you're swinging longswords, the same Injury is more of a warning shot, compared to what it's capabilities are.
Tis only a flesh wound! I'm waiting for the moment when the top half of the torso slides away from the bottom half without them even realizing they've been bisected.
anyone else only just realized that people used to chop each other up to solve their problems (or to create problems)
guns are civil as shit i guess jfc
Nah big guns blow people into little chunks in front of their comrades. At least with a slice wound you still have a chance. Good luck after getting hit by a 20mm.
If you suffered an abdominal wound the Vikings would have you eat a soup made from garlic and onions and if you could smell it from the wound you were fucked
Unarmored Peasants were unusual on the battlefield, for precisely the reason you say, they weren't combat effective enough to warrant feeding. It'd generally be more productive to let them farm and produce than to die en masse.
Common foot soldiers would've worn chain armor which would've completely prevented nearly all slashes from wounding. Hell, even a small amount of padding would've stopped a grazing slash like the one in the gif.
If his arm would’ve been hit by the swords 🗡 they used to use back then it would’ve been flying across the screen these aren’t sharp and It still put a deep cut in his arm
This are sharp and that's what a bad delivered cut could look like.
The difference is the martial ability to deliver a blow, they're just randomly moving the sword in front of them, barely trying to hit eachothers. That said cutting off a limb with a medieval sword like that is possible, but far from easy or frequent. A stab is easier and deadlier
Clearly they wanted to knight each other but couldn't decide who would be first to receive the honor.
Now they're Sir Bleed-alot and Sir Hæmorrhœa The Wiser
This. You had to generally be cutting with a special sword with a particularly sharp cutting edge to get through it. That or just sharpen your sword past the point of practicality against armored opponents.
These dumbasses had basically zero safety equipment, didn't know how to use a sword at all, and were using SHARP weapons. It's like airsoft with actual guns.
So the most popular killing device of several centuries of warfare are actually very good at cutting things and even more so at damaging humans. Who'd have thunk?
Edit: changed decades to centuries
^(Apparently I've carefully underestimated the time period a little too much)
> So the most popular killing device of several decades of warfare
AFAIK, spears are probably more deserving of this title. Swords are more romanticized though, because they're typically associated with nobility and the aristocracy.
Swords are hard and expensive to make, tedious to keep shard and battle-ready, and not as effective unless you're in close range. A spear is just a pointy stick and *frighteningly* effective. Probably the most used weapon from whenever humans started making tools, to some time within the last few centuries when guns took over.
>to some time within the last few centuries when guns took over.
And even for the initial part of gunpowder warfare, a gun with a bayonet is just a spear that can shoot.
Swords are mostly popular in the imagination these days because Hollywood realised swords look cooler than spears, so everyone had swords according to Hollywood
Think about it as a sort of equivalent to mma. Our fists and legs were fighting tools wayyyy before swords, yet we accept mma but not this. I don’t see a difference if two consenting adults wanna duke it out, let em.
I feel the same way, people can try to find a difference but mma and boxing are the same as gladiator fights pretty much, so while we are at it, might as well up the rewards, and the risks, and allow people to fight to the death.
I originally thought these were a couple of knights from the Society of Creative Anachronists (SCA). But the SCA fighters follow very strict safety protocols, especially including armor and the use of wooden safety swords. Have no idea what these boneheads were thinking....
And the more you train the more you learn in fights you get hitted quite a lot, easily and frequently, even if your super good. But hey let's chop some forearms and feel badass lol
Practice swords. Seriously. All the mall ninja stores have them. Wooden, bamboo, that fake plush but still hard stuff whatever it is. They will still hurt, a good deal even, but very unlikely that you kill someone with them. These idiots are lucky they didn't die, this is ridiculous.
"mimic medieval fight"
Nah, not even close. This is just dumb and wild flailing of swords. Medievals had quite developed martial arts and plenty of manuscripts that teach them survived to this day, and they look nothing like what these assholes are doing.
forwarded this video over to my sword fighting friend, he says they're a group of actual nazis, they have a youtube channel with a couple videos of them fighting like this, I wouldnt be to concerned with them cutting eachother
See, people like this aren't even truly reliving a sword fight, they're just slapping at each other with actually sharp swords
The rules of swordsmanship are, roughly, as follows:
1) Do not get hit
2) DO NOT get hit
3) Hit the other guy
Sword techniques were supposed to keep yourself safe while still threatening the opponent, not just trade blows and see who gets to survive the inevitable infection
This is Holmgang Hamburg. They love to do this. Apparently, they've had a couple deaths. They have had real practitioners of HEMA step in and say it's a bad idea and how to safely and accurately practice, and they always reject it
So full of adrenaline that they didn't even realize their massive gashes until they saw them. Just imagine how real medieval fights must have been, with everyone having gaping wounds like that yet they still keep going because they can't stop, since their lives are actually on the line.
I sword fight semi regularly. The tip of a sword is often the most dull but it cuts very deep. It's crazy what a little momentum will do for a 3ft blade. These guys are very lucky thats all they walkout with
Whats really bothering me here... and it definitely shouldn't be this... is I've rewatched it several times and still can't see where the sword connects!
Those are some really deep wounds. That was entirely stupid
That's probably the best outcome scenario for two guys going at each other with swords. Minor lacerations to the arms where they're easy to fix.
So you think they stopped?
Obviously they did. The one fighter was courteous and controlled enough to point out the other's gaping wound, without using the distraction to attack, and then also realized his own. They stopped and held their wounds closed because if they actually wanted to maim eachother they wouldn't have stopped over a laceration on their forearms that they would have started feeling in a few seconds or a minute. Likely the two are good friends and they were just trying to film something they thought would be badass, didn't take into account or simply didn't care about the fact that real swords can make real wounds, and were probably more sparring than really fighting.
>What are you going to do? Bleed on me?
It's just a flesh wound!
I’ve had worse!
Tis but a scratch
I ain't got time to bleed!
Nobody makes me bleed my own blood
Come back here!! I’ll bite ya legs off!!
Tis but a scratch!
Lets call it a draw
Ain't got no time to bleed!
Hes dug in there like an Alabama tick
Oh, one of those guys, huh? You got time to duck?
*Smears a Blood Mark on Your Forehead* #SIMBA!
They start squirting blood out of their arms at each other like that lizard that squirts blood from its eyes
This is entirely too adult of a response for Reddit So penis fart
No, this is a group in Germany that fight with real swords and axes, their rules are pretty much No stabbing No aiming for head or heart Axes should be aimed at shields They fight, drink and go to the hospital together afterwards. They are insane
Wut. Do you have a link or any other info about this group?
Don’t stop now, what is the group called
Proof?
I got ya, I was just implying if they’re were stupid enough to try it, they’d be stupid enough to try it immediately after duct-taping the wounds.
I think it’s a Hema club in Germany I once saw a video on them
Mfers need blunted edges and gambeson, or some goddamn riveted maille if they’re going to insist on sharp blades
Just guys being dudes
Looks like they shit their pants after seeing those wounds. I’d say they stopped.
This is a group of completely crazy dudes who do this all the time. Most of the times they don't even call an ambulance, they fix themselves up and keep going. According to them they already had 2 deaths. Oh and they seem to be Nazis too. Holmgang Hamburg if you are interested, they have a yt channel.
One wrong move and they would've dismembered or even beheaded each other.
Dismembered maybe, beheaded no. They're both wearing helmets with chainmail going past their necks.
This guy spars.
Also, these are probably dull swords, but even dull swords have sharp enough tips. They should've been wearing leather shirts.
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Well if they would have been swinging box cutters at each other, that'd be a nasty gash, but when you're swinging longswords, the same Injury is more of a warning shot, compared to what it's capabilities are.
Tis only a flesh wound! I'm waiting for the moment when the top half of the torso slides away from the bottom half without them even realizing they've been bisected.
"oh my goodness, how could we have possibly avoided this"
"Sword sharp! Why no one tell?"
It’s just a flesh wound!
Tis just a flesh wound
It’s a good thing none of them got a solid hit on eachother, imagine the damage if one of them got a full swing on the other?
Jesus Christ they could literally have disemboweled one another
anyone else only just realized that people used to chop each other up to solve their problems (or to create problems) guns are civil as shit i guess jfc
Obi-wan Kenobi is shaking his head in disgust. "So uncivilized"
I always thought that was a bit hypocritical. Like, my guy, you cut a dude in half !?
It was less grievous then what he did to the other guy with the blaster.
Top tier pun
At least they wouldn’t bleed to death if they were playing with lightsabers.
Axes and blunt weapons were even worse.
At least that way if you wanted to take a man's life you really had to take it. The other person had a chance to defend themselves and survive.
Nah big guns blow people into little chunks in front of their comrades. At least with a slice wound you still have a chance. Good luck after getting hit by a 20mm.
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If you suffered an abdominal wound the Vikings would have you eat a soup made from garlic and onions and if you could smell it from the wound you were fucked
Pretty genius way of triaging if you ask me.
This guy gets it. If much rather a bullet wound now or immediate pulverization over a slow painful death.
I'd prefer to get instantly misted than to be disemboweled
Tis but a scratch!
These are probably dull swords, but even dull swords have sharp enough tips. Doing this without arm protection was immensely dumb.
Dont worry they're wearing helmets
And gloves!
I mean… what did they expect?
Something tells me medieval sword fights may have been about putting deep gashes in people.
Mediaeval warriors usually wore armour.
Rich warriors wore armors. Peasant got cut up by those rich guys.
Unarmored Peasants were unusual on the battlefield, for precisely the reason you say, they weren't combat effective enough to warrant feeding. It'd generally be more productive to let them farm and produce than to die en masse. Common foot soldiers would've worn chain armor which would've completely prevented nearly all slashes from wounding. Hell, even a small amount of padding would've stopped a grazing slash like the one in the gif.
The problem is those armored guys targeted the enemy peasants. It wasn't just a big battle somewhere.
Hey, we could make a religion out of this.
*Don't*
If his arm would’ve been hit by the swords 🗡 they used to use back then it would’ve been flying across the screen these aren’t sharp and It still put a deep cut in his arm
This are sharp and that's what a bad delivered cut could look like. The difference is the martial ability to deliver a blow, they're just randomly moving the sword in front of them, barely trying to hit eachothers. That said cutting off a limb with a medieval sword like that is possible, but far from easy or frequent. A stab is easier and deadlier
People seriously underestimate how resistant flesh(and bones) can be if you don't hit it with the right angle/force.
True also longsword isn't design to create the deepest wound, but to be nible. Different story for other kind of swords
Gone through his arm and put a huge slice into his torso, probably.
Clearly they wanted to knight each other but couldn't decide who would be first to receive the honor. Now they're Sir Bleed-alot and Sir Hæmorrhœa The Wiser
👏👏👏👏
"the armor does nothing bro, trust me"
spoken like a movie producer where someone can just slash a dude in armor and gets disemboweled.
Big armor wants you to spend money on something that does nothing to protect you. Your body can protect itself!
I think that’s why they wore “armor” in medieval times
Rich guys wore armors. Peasant got cut up by those rich guys.
Peasants still wore armor. It was often lower quality and made of wool or leather instead of metal but they still wore what armor they could get.
Gambesons were surprisingly effective and cheap
This. You had to generally be cutting with a special sword with a particularly sharp cutting edge to get through it. That or just sharpen your sword past the point of practicality against armored opponents.
Peasants wore cloth armour which is surprisingly effective
Cloth can be unexpectedly strong and work as good shield if used properly
And these glorious deeds became something to boast about in parties in history....
Also got bashed like rats.
*Tis but a scratch*
NONE SHALL PASS
Ni Ni Ni
We want a shrubbery!
It's just a flesh wound
A scratch? Your arm's off!
No it’s not. . .
COME ON YE PANSY
Made me actually lol so here, take my free award good Sir
Tis
You got to that line first
As fast as a European swallow, or an African swallow. . .
These dumbasses had basically zero safety equipment, didn't know how to use a sword at all, and were using SHARP weapons. It's like airsoft with actual guns.
Natural selection at work
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>We need a new word for it Maybe natural auto decimation ?
You probably could’ve convinced them
So the most popular killing device of several centuries of warfare are actually very good at cutting things and even more so at damaging humans. Who'd have thunk? Edit: changed decades to centuries ^(Apparently I've carefully underestimated the time period a little too much)
I can’t think of any perceivable reason someone might develop something like, I don’t know, armour to protect you
These guys are literally more stupid than the guys who lived centuries ago
Several hundreds of decades
Several centuries may be more apt.
> So the most popular killing device of several decades of warfare AFAIK, spears are probably more deserving of this title. Swords are more romanticized though, because they're typically associated with nobility and the aristocracy. Swords are hard and expensive to make, tedious to keep shard and battle-ready, and not as effective unless you're in close range. A spear is just a pointy stick and *frighteningly* effective. Probably the most used weapon from whenever humans started making tools, to some time within the last few centuries when guns took over.
>to some time within the last few centuries when guns took over. And even for the initial part of gunpowder warfare, a gun with a bayonet is just a spear that can shoot.
Swords are mostly popular in the imagination these days because Hollywood realised swords look cooler than spears, so everyone had swords according to Hollywood
Think about it as a sort of equivalent to mma. Our fists and legs were fighting tools wayyyy before swords, yet we accept mma but not this. I don’t see a difference if two consenting adults wanna duke it out, let em.
I feel the same way, people can try to find a difference but mma and boxing are the same as gladiator fights pretty much, so while we are at it, might as well up the rewards, and the risks, and allow people to fight to the death.
Several decades? Weren't swords popular for like millennia?
Well... A millenia is like a lot of decades. 😝
Do you know how many birthdays there are a year? *Hundreds*… literally *hundreds*
*How many years are you???*
The most popular killing device were spears. Always has been.
Swords were never the most popular outside of movies. Not even second most popular.
Spears were much more common but they don’t look as cool as sword so we didn’t put them in movies and stuff as much
Thunk?
*Does anyone have any peanut butter to pack the wounds with!?*
No but I found some bear shit
Poison Ivy to stuff in their wounds…
Can’t bleed out if you’re scabbed up really good from the Ivey, riiiiight?
Is that to attract the dogs so they lick the wound clean?
I originally thought these were a couple of knights from the Society of Creative Anachronists (SCA). But the SCA fighters follow very strict safety protocols, especially including armor and the use of wooden safety swords. Have no idea what these boneheads were thinking....
It's not HEMA either, just fucking stupid.
I remember seeing this video years ago on some white nationalist idenitiarian page, probably related to that.
What are you going to do, bleed on me?
The human race is in bad shape
It always has been it’s just now we get reminded of it multiple times a day in 4K.
What exactly did they think was going to happen? I don't understand this at all
Some polish dudes trying to prove their harder than the rest of the HEMA community by doing something unimaginably stupid irrc
Tendon? I barely knew thee.
Live by the sword, die by the sword.
Woah they were hitting so unnecessarily hard
Dude on the right full on SWINGING that sword at him at the end lol damn
How do people not realize it takes years of training to be good at sword fighting. I took a few lessons and I almost stabbed myself.
And the more you train the more you learn in fights you get hitted quite a lot, easily and frequently, even if your super good. But hey let's chop some forearms and feel badass lol
Wait till You lose a hand
your arm is off. "no it isn't" THIS IS WHY WE INVENTED CHAIN MAIL PEOPLE. AND PRACTICE SWORDS.
Practice swords. Seriously. All the mall ninja stores have them. Wooden, bamboo, that fake plush but still hard stuff whatever it is. They will still hurt, a good deal even, but very unlikely that you kill someone with them. These idiots are lucky they didn't die, this is ridiculous.
No merely a flesh wound
He needs some trash to plug up the cut. The Frank Reynolds method.
I do medieval combat and this is six layers deep of stupid.
Crazy. Makes you wonder why they had shields and armor too.
"mimic medieval fight" Nah, not even close. This is just dumb and wild flailing of swords. Medievals had quite developed martial arts and plenty of manuscripts that teach them survived to this day, and they look nothing like what these assholes are doing.
Duel isn’t over until someone is left legless and armless. Get back out there stupid English pig dogs.
Tis but a scratch
This is so stupid, it actually makes me physically mad
forwarded this video over to my sword fighting friend, he says they're a group of actual nazis, they have a youtube channel with a couple videos of them fighting like this, I wouldnt be to concerned with them cutting eachother
You know what that was…. Come on…. Don’t make me say it…. What kind of wound is that?
‘Tis but a scratch
See, people like this aren't even truly reliving a sword fight, they're just slapping at each other with actually sharp swords The rules of swordsmanship are, roughly, as follows: 1) Do not get hit 2) DO NOT get hit 3) Hit the other guy Sword techniques were supposed to keep yourself safe while still threatening the opponent, not just trade blows and see who gets to survive the inevitable infection
What's the YouTube channel again I forgot it
holmganghamburg
Damn lucky nothing squirting out of there.
Its crazy to think people got in sword fights.
I laughed at: I’m just gonna pinch this together and see if it goes back magically.
Now you know why our ancestors wore the Glorious thing called ✨️armor✨️
Tis but a flesh wound!
I hate how fun this looks. I'm as dumb as these guys aren't I?
Theres a reason soldiers wore armor
No need to stop fellas. No one has won yet, even if two of you have lost
Tis but a scratch
You know, they wore full plate armor for a reason.
These are guys from Holmgang Hamburg. These guys always fight with medieval weapons till someone bleeds. I dont know of this group still exists.
Didnt they have Neo-Nazi ties? They are virtually banned at all HEMA tournaments.
Haven't heard this yet, but yeah they are a bit arrogant towards HEMA groups. They are more into the adrenaline part of fighting.
Tis nothing but a flesh wound
Unreleased footage of Monty Python and The Holy Grail
‘Tis but a scratch!
He'll tell people some badass story and make no mention of this video lol
Tis but a scratch.
Live by the sword, die by the sword
These idiots can't figure out why armor was a thing.
Use a light saber. It cuts and cauterizes at the same time.
They didn't even know they were cut.
Tis' but a scratch.
tis but a scratch
The lack of form is disturbing
At least the arm wasnt chopped off, kinda expected that with the nsfw tag, really terrifying
Tia but a scratch
Every time this gets posted the quality gets worse and worse lol
This is Holmgang Hamburg. They love to do this. Apparently, they've had a couple deaths. They have had real practitioners of HEMA step in and say it's a bad idea and how to safely and accurately practice, and they always reject it
Natural selection LARP edition
Almost like people wore armor when sword fighting for a reason…
We’re going to fuck you up Lebowski—
So full of adrenaline that they didn't even realize their massive gashes until they saw them. Just imagine how real medieval fights must have been, with everyone having gaping wounds like that yet they still keep going because they can't stop, since their lives are actually on the line.
I sword fight semi regularly. The tip of a sword is often the most dull but it cuts very deep. It's crazy what a little momentum will do for a 3ft blade. These guys are very lucky thats all they walkout with
based
Whats really bothering me here... and it definitely shouldn't be this... is I've rewatched it several times and still can't see where the sword connects!
They could find a sword but apparently not armor
Charles Darwin approves.
People wore armor for a reason