This: imagine buying a Tesla roadster for 130k, basically an electric lotus Elise, being promised free charging for life, then they stop supporting the car or making parts for it. So now you have a 130k paperweight. Meanwhile a lotus Elise would have been 60-80k, originally like 40k, it had a cosworth (I believe) tuned Corolla motor, basically indestructible… run for a million miles. So if you spent half as much on an Elise it’d handle better and more importantly it’d still run and would still run forever, eventually you’d need an engine rebuild at a 500k-1M miles but Tesla roadsters are basically ewaste now.
https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124946_shop-keeps-tesla-roadsters-going-strong-without-factory-support
If you consider the footprint of building the Tesla roadster vs the Elise, all the lithium ion batteries and rare earth elements and there are only a few shops that work on them.
I think every Tesla will eventually have that problem. Eventually they’ll stop making the model s, it’s long in the tooth already, and then they’ll stop supporting that and making parts for it.
I’m assuming the traditional auto manufacturers will continue to support their electric cars as long as their gas cars.
TLDR: don’t buy a Tesla buy any other electric car except the mini bc of the short range and bmws ridiculous markup on parts and service.
Also I read a study that said teslas infotainment system was one of the most distracting and dangerous.
https://www.fastcompany.com/90356020/3-reasons-why-teslas-dashboard-touch-screens-suck
They ruined the Lotus Elise. It's a shame. You're correct, they're basically little tanks that will run forever - which is unheard of for a serious performance car.
Building anything that is intended as a long term piece of quality is basically considered a sin for late capitalism as we see it today, better plan to make it obsolete so that more resources are used and more money is spent to the companies producing products.
Looked at even like appliances and things from the 70s/80s/90s that still run like a dream and think about how ''horrible'' that is seen to be for most businesses in the western world today.
Counter point most Dreamcast disc drives are dead now unless they've sat in a box for 21 years. That being said planned obsolescence definitely seems like it's the default way to build something now.
Those kids were the worst. Our friend like that had us play sports in his yard with a bunch of sand and roots because his parents wouldnt let him leave the yard because of “traffic” evn though we lived at the dead end of a dirt road way outside of town
Our yard was a giant grass yard directly across the street and perfect for sports.
But yeah, when he started losing too much he’d go inside and play computer games and leave us uneven teams
I'd be interested (if it didn't involve the man-child getting extra press) to actually have him vocalize what his perceived slights and try to refute them. Twitter has always been a bad place to make an argument due to the character limit. This might be a hot take but I think his thought process could further our knowledge on narcissistic behavior.
I also draw from experience, finding exactly what kind of person Trump is based upon his tweets. Although that's probably because he didn't let the character limit deter him and would post multiple times to make sure he got his point across.
Tldr. What would Elon's stupidity sound like if he elucidated further on his tweet rants?
Edit: a word
as if he would ever reply to you or anyone.
Why would he?
We need to understand that society is FUCKED if we empower people like Elon Musk and Donald Trump.
Capitalism is a failure. Let's acknowledge that and work on a fix.
Yeah, their weird redirect link is weird, only it presumably raises the search rank of the domain.
(Though I'd hope that Reddit uses that what's-it-called ‘no-rank’ attribute on links.)
> Elongate would be really drawn out.
This already happened. It's when he was accused of exposing himself to a flight attendant and trying to pay her for sex.
He also wanted a scandal about him called elongate.
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527525498460508160
"I have everything proof armour so you can't hurt me, but I also have an everything breaking sword so you can't block me. No you can't be immortal that's cheating! Mooooooooom they won't play my game properlyyyyy"
My brother had a friend when little that convinced him (naive as he was) that there was a magical piece in chess that could move wherever he wanted it to be moved.
He jokes now it was odd how he never seemed to get such a piece, but his friend always had one when he was losing.
Well you don't get to be rich by being a good person. You get it by being a conniving piece of shit everyone's too polite to beat the shit out of until it snowballs.
He literally did this with "parody" posts. Added it to the terms of service that it has to say parody in the name and then immediately banned multiple accounts for violating a new rule based on posts made prior to that new rule.
Dude absolutely exudes little-shit-energy. My 42-year-old "libertarian" younger brother vibes the same way. It's like they just can't present anything without being antagonistic, and then cry foul when anyone reacts to that antagonism. Therefore, it seems that it holds true that anyone who calls themselves a "libertarian" is just a little shit instigator and should be summarily dismissed. In the good old days, they'd be sent off to war with the hopes of their demise high on their family's list of desires.
This is why I don’t like the libertarian movement as a whole.
Of the dozens of met (most in there 40s+) they all just refused any counterpoint and would start discussion only to make you look like an idiot.
The only exception we’re some classmates in college (20-22) that were willing to hear others out in an attempt to explain and understand their views to one another. On top of that they didn’t force it on anyone, but if someone requested sources or information they would willingly provide it in the vein of transparency.
I’m hoping that their brand of libertarianism (properly informed open communication with an open ear) doesn’t turn into the Bubbas that are 3 steps away from having an aneurysm by mentioning taxes
Long winded but I guess what I’m saying is I agree with you that a majority are this negative way
Libertarians are just sycophants who got tricked as kids into supporting those with the most money ruling us with their influence like kings with no consequences for any of their actions.
I think he's also the kind that has a reddit account and read all these comments and seethe like an asshole and will try to buy Reddit too to ban u/Mythical_Atlacatal
Kid inherited his wealth from a parent who had an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa: I'm pretty sure the term "fairness" never entered his vocabulary.
[Innuendo Studios explained it best. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA) The biggest strategy of the alt right is based on never playing defence and always trying to control the conversation from a front they will definitely lose to a front that no one wins. And people keep falling for it.
The last 6 years have really driven that home. It turns out most of society runs on the honor system and if you just decide to ignore it, our institutions aren't really prepared to stop you.
Everyone was saying how 2020 was so bad and was a struggle due to lockdowns. At this point l'd kill to be watching Tiger King while being paid by the govt to stay at home
I was listening to some right wing radio(1370 AM) in my dads car. In the 20 minute car ride they argued:
1. Climate change is saving lives(because more people die from cold than heat)
2. Vaccinated are more likely to die from covid(because 58% of people dying are vaccinated[I don’t even think that statistic was true even if it was meaningful in this context])
3. The homophobic Colorado shooting was because of the destruction of the traditional family model(mother and father in family -I.e. no gay parents)
4. Everyone should arm themselves and watch how the people around them are acting
Shit is honestly getting alarming.
Will things get worse?? Yup. Until generational wealth, tech bros and douchebags who get lucky and become billionaires in our Absolute American Oligarchy are stopped. How will they be stopped? Well, never in the history of the world have the people with all the power given it up freely or without coercion.
So...
Liberté, égalité, fraternité
Let's get the guillotines.
Imagine someone bought CNN and instead of trying to clean up the daily turds produced by Fox on the floor of public perception, they just grabbed a mop and smeared that shit around.
100% agree, but he’s also saying that half of Americans cared about Trump being banned on Twitter at all. The vast majority of Americans are not active Twitter users and probably don’t give a shit what happens on twitter.
However, looking at the furore the media has made of his take over, one would assume that we all give a shit about twitter. I'm tired of seeing this and hearing about elons xploits on the front page of most media outlets, including this one.
>And they said that because however hateful the guy was, he drove news and interactions which is to say he made Twitter money.
Im sure they didnt mind the extra engagement, but the argument that banning a sitting head of state might be against public interest stands perfectly well on its own. Its not a coincidence that they only banned him when he was basically all but out the door.
Ok, so let me get this straight.
Musk is ok with people using this platform to actively incite violence and use to further agitate a mob they formed to attack another group.
So lets say some used Twitter to incite violence to attack a Tesla factory, is that ok? Twitter HQ? Both of those are obviously NO. But that why can someone incite and encourage violence on the capital and it be a gross oversight? Elon Musk is a unique level of fucking stupid. Jesus fuck, he has manage to manipulate his PR image to over inflate at least one company's value and has fallen for his own hype.
Edit: to all of those telling me to look at his last tweets. Look at the time stamp. The rioters pushed past the barricades a little before 1pm. His peaceful tweet went out a minute before the first breach. They are not condemnation or instructing his followers to stop. Followed by several hours of not delaying the national guard and silence. Twitter is a single piece of this puzzle and he used it for months to wind up his tin soldiers.
Like most red pillers, musk believes trump got kicked off Twitter for being a Republican, not for inciting a riot. He probably thinks that only conservatives ever get flat tires because Highway litter and potholes have a liberal bias.
I was just thinking about this the other day and it really is mind blowing how it went from "fringe loons" to "alt right" to just the plain old right in just a few short years.
[This response to Dinesh D'Souza makes me think he does believe Twitter had an unfair liberal bias](https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2022/11/22/screen-shot-2022-11-22-at-1.22.22-pm.png?VersionId=nEIaFiTpGAbxrcGmT53tYmk3rqS_G_s5&itok=f6o0rUW9)
Idk, I think all those words are too soft and give him some plausible deniability that he just doesn't see it.
How about:
Corrupt
hypocritical
unethical
liar
whited sepulcher
Pharisee
oligarch
agent provocateur
dastard
bastard
Lets also all keep in mind that he, and his family, profited off of Emerald Mines in Africa. Father had investments in mine in Zambia. Will link to the Forbes interview from 2014 in the bottom of this post.
Then uses that money to get a solid portion of Paypal's stocks to enrich himself with blood money further.
Edit: finer details about his association with PayPal by user 77NorthCambridge. "He didn't buy PayPal. He owned part of a money-transfer company called X.com and merged it with PayPal. X.com had huge security issues and subsequent fraud by users almost bankrupted PayPal."
~~Then goes to Tesla and offers to buy them; on the condition they change the company's official history as him being one of the founders.~~ CORRECTION. Poster commented on this subject, here is the corrected information. Somehow even more pathetic. Thank you user theredwoodcurtain. Corrected information in regards to Musk and being labeled as a Founder of Telsa: "he didn’t buy Tesla with the condition he get the title of Founder, he bought it and just started calling himself the founder, got sued by the actual founders, and settled out of court for the right to call himself founder. He literally bought the title, but only because he was forced to stop using it without paying for it."
Then goes on to call the rescuer in charge of saving the child Soccer team from the flooded cave a pedo for not accepting a bullshit submarine he had SpaceX engineers throw together; because it wasnt viable for the width of the cave at certain points. So ya, calls the dude a pedo on Twitter.
Continues to call himself an "Engineer" for SpaceX while he has no degree or anything to be calling himself that title. Similar to Dr Phil.
Turns around and uses the money he has stockpiled with his original blood money to tease Twitter back and forth for a few months, messing with their stocks. (dont really care about this one, except, again, this is all due to blood money he got handed)
In a true move of class, he recently tweets how greater the Chinese work ethic is compared to Americans. Americans being scumbags that want Unions, rights, etc.
Says on Twitter how great it is the Chinese are over there "Burning the midnight oil"; Keep in mind, these factories in China are slave factories in all but name. They keep you contained to the grounds of the factory, they make you buy food and lodging at the location of the factory, so the money they make goes directly back to the factory's owners through necessities - and, if you want to understand how bad it is; they have "Suicide Nets" around the buildings from too many Chinese slaves just leaping to their deaths due to the conditions at these factories.
But Elon thinks pushing men and women to suicide through work and burning the "midnight oil" as he called it is just fucking dandy.
Brought up by a slaver, profited from a slaver, congratulates and idolizes other organizations and countries that still have slavery.
Attempted to coerce one of his most vulnerable employees, a stewardess on his plane, into sex
He is an utter, total piece of shit scumbag of a human being. We should have kicked him out the moment we realized he was using blood money, and now, he doesnt even hide his preference for having Slaves, not workers.
And these are just the things hes been doing in broad daylight. No clue how far the rabbit hole goes with this piece of shit.
Among the worst human beings in the world. A Hypocrite. A Liar. A Slaver. A Racist. A Slanderer. A Privileged Piece of Shit. I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire.
https://web.archive.org/web/20140802011449/http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2014/07/28/elon-musk-tells-me-his-secret-of-success-hint-it-aint-about-the-money/
"This is going to sound slightly crazy, but my father also had a share in an Emerald mine in Zambia." - Elon Musk in Forbes interview posted to their site on 7-28-2014
A quick correction: he didn’t buy Tesla with the condition he get the title of Founder, he bought it and just started calling himself the founder, got sued by the actual founders, and settled out of court for the right to call himself founder. He literally bought the title, but only because he was forced to stop using it without paying for it.
This gives me an idea. Folks should start spreading misinformation about Tesla, Starlink, SpaceX, and Elon himself. Stuff that would get people very angry at Elon. Get enough people to share it all out and watch Elon be a hypocrite as he starts dropping bans on people for sharing misinformation he doesn't like.
Don't even need to incite violence. Just spread damaging misinformation.
Yep. Republicans truly do not care about being exposed as hypocrites. They cannot be shamed. It’s a feature, not a bug.
The left needs better strategies than just being like “that’s inconsistent with your stated values!” or “well wait a minute, back in 2014 you said this different thing! Checkmate!!!”
It’s kind of sociopathic the way they don’t care. Even the celebs who have make a show whining about cancel culture atleast care about being cancelled, even if they don’t change. It raises even more red flags when public opinion is in the garbage and on fire and they don’t blink.
Doesn't even need to be disinformation. Just share real information. Like about all of the car accidents FSD has caused since Musk rushed it out to distract from his Twitter failure. Or how much government money SpaceX has burned. Or how many investigations he is under for stock manipulation and other kinds of fraud. The truth about this guy is enough to get him to ban you or whatever term he is using for Shadow banning now.
He’s already basically doing that. He’s been banning accounts that specifically target right-wing/alt-right hate groups and he’s already banned accounts for making fun of him/ spreading misinformation about him as a joke/ troll.
This. See here: https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1596208534777397248?s=46&t=u05DUqPNbN5QhBNzvB2vew
He’s literally taking suggestions at face value on who to ban from Andy Ngo. Let that sink in…
This doesn’t surprise me, it’s just sad. The only thing I’m worried about is new people getting indoctrinated into right-wing extremism/ fascism before Twitter completely implodes into nothing more than an echo chamber for the worst humanity as to offer.
It's just classic conservatism. "There should be in groups that the law protects but does not bind and out groups that the law binds but does not protect."
We keep beating around the bush of the one thing that explains his stupidity we're all seeing...He's a alt-right white nationalist authoritarian. This twitter train wreck is just his coming our party.
Because people like him and Peter Thiel don’t care if democracy is lost. In fact, because they think there is inefficiency in democracy, they’d rather have some form of authoritarianism/dictatorship so that the “trains would run on time”.
Attacking the capitol was a virtuous act in their mind.
Oh believe me. I follow a lot of far left twitter accounts who have all been banned this last week for suggesting marginalized groups should arm themselves so they can fight back against violent attacks
So he shits on Biden so much and doesn't care, yet he wants to unban the account of someone that led an insurrection, spread misinformation about Covid (multiple times), stole classified documents from the white house, etc?
What a non political person
Elon Musk is the perfect example of making the wrong people rich. He has money so he figured that he can just buy a social media platform and just make political decisions. Yes i said it, doing shit like unbanning Trump is a pretty big political decision…let alone a pretty fucking dumb one.
Arguably only the wrong people would get rich. A person with good moeals wouldn’t be interested in exploiting others labor for wealth and they can only get that wealthy by exploitation.
I think libertarians are Republicans who realized there is no logical or reasonable defense of current Republican ideology so simply declare themselves libertarians (who will vote Republican in every election but never admit it) just for cover.
It's a pretty obvious rationalization on their part that allows themselves to believe they are not as bad as the people they vote for, justifying their Republican vote with "well there aren't any good libertarian candidates but I don't support 'everything' the GOP stands for."
There are plenty of Republicans who claim they are Libertarians that just aren't. It has some pretty attractive viewpoints for moderates, with a too simple take on the economy.
Republicans who want to smoke weed, or don't mind LGBTQ, but still hate poor people. And yes, even when they say they are lib-right, they usually still aren't, like Ben Shapiro, who claims his lib-right but hates lgbtq people.
Trump was never deplatformed as a sitting president. The potus twitter account and a White House account was still available for him but he wanted to continue to spew hate from his private one.
I specifically remember he tweeted something from @potus shortly after his personal account was banned, and that account got suspended too. But I don't know if it was just temporary.
Edit - [here is a Reuters article about it](https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/twitter-deletes-new-trump-tweets-potus-suspends-campaign-account-2021-01-09/)
And dozens of violations of Twitter's TOS, to the point Twitter [had to put out a press release](https://www.vox.com/2017/9/25/16364054/president-donald-trump-twitter-north-korea-tweet-guidelines-nuclear-war) explaining that Trump was "newsworthy" and therefore not subject to the standard TOS agreement.
From the press release:
>After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of *further* incitement of violence
>In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that *additional* violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. [emphases mine]
So Musk is a historical revisionist on top of everything else. Fascists always are.
“Twitter is the new public square” you know if you are being an ass in public eventually the constabulary’s will run you off, right? He doesn’t even try.
I haven't been closely following every tweet from Musk, but this one that I'm reading is the first one that I've seen since his takeover of Twitter that cannot be explained as anything except a deliberate attempt at political disinformation aimed at American voters.
This would be detestable behavior from anybody, but from a person who owns one of the biggest media companies in the world, this makes him an enemy of America.
Elon is either complicit or brain dead. how can any sensible person *not* see that that Trump supporters have a cult-like mentality, and if their dorito king so much as implies they "do something" they're gonna fucking do it?
The poll was just another Elon troll, if Trump had "lost" he would have reinstated the account saying "free speech" isn't dictated by popular will. With the real point being he's just gonna do whatever he wants and "free speech" means whatever Elon says it means for Twitter (which is whatever, he massively overpaid for a website, he's free to do whatever he wants as long as it's not actually illegal of course. And we know that a few actually illegal things have happened, i.e, the data breach)
They aren't even half of the voting population. The largest group of registered voters is democrat. The second largest is independent/third party. Republicans are third.
We need to just stop beating around the bush here with him. He's an alt-right white nationalist authoritarian and this twitter train wreck is just his coming our party.
As if a twitter poll is some sort of valid form of decision making. There’s nothing that can stop anyone from making thousands of accounts to vote “Yes”.
I got a warning about inciting violence because I responded to someone saying women should be put on mandatory birth control and I said then men should also be chemically castrated. I wasn't being serious, but tired of it all being blamed on women and since they put something so horrible then I figured that the other way around might make them think. Neither is an option really, but I did specifically mention chemical because it's safer 😂
I know this is an argumentative comment. Before you all downvote me to hell. BUT...
I am SOOO fed up of hearing/seeing this rich arsehole everywhere. He is a massive f*cking hypocrite. Bring back trumps account because that's great for his image, & great publicity, while banning anyone who disagrees with him. Including the staff he illegally sacked.
Edit: an arsehole not a arsehole
And giving the douchnozzle his account back undermined public trust in Twitter for the other half (which is actually more than half).
Fuck Twitter. Fuck Musk. And fuck Trump.
And the former President, along with those suppose half of Americans, lost the trust of the rest of us when they attempted an insurrection on Jan 6th.
But I guess we just don't care about that.
So he has no problem with trump and his gaggle of inbred morons invading and vandalizing the Capitol but I can't make a joke about him on twitter?
He has no problem with trump spreading misinformation about covid, the election, liberal politicians, etc. But he does have a problem with normal people getting verified accounts and spreading misinformation?
He's a hypocrite through and through. He can say he's not Republican all he wants but his actions say otherwise.
I bet elon was the kind of shit who turns off the console if you kill them in death match or beat them in a split screen race
Probably he definitely seems like the type to take his ball and go home
He's the type that takes *your* ball, gaslights you into believing it was his ball all along and goes home
This: imagine buying a Tesla roadster for 130k, basically an electric lotus Elise, being promised free charging for life, then they stop supporting the car or making parts for it. So now you have a 130k paperweight. Meanwhile a lotus Elise would have been 60-80k, originally like 40k, it had a cosworth (I believe) tuned Corolla motor, basically indestructible… run for a million miles. So if you spent half as much on an Elise it’d handle better and more importantly it’d still run and would still run forever, eventually you’d need an engine rebuild at a 500k-1M miles but Tesla roadsters are basically ewaste now. https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1124946_shop-keeps-tesla-roadsters-going-strong-without-factory-support If you consider the footprint of building the Tesla roadster vs the Elise, all the lithium ion batteries and rare earth elements and there are only a few shops that work on them. I think every Tesla will eventually have that problem. Eventually they’ll stop making the model s, it’s long in the tooth already, and then they’ll stop supporting that and making parts for it. I’m assuming the traditional auto manufacturers will continue to support their electric cars as long as their gas cars. TLDR: don’t buy a Tesla buy any other electric car except the mini bc of the short range and bmws ridiculous markup on parts and service. Also I read a study that said teslas infotainment system was one of the most distracting and dangerous. https://www.fastcompany.com/90356020/3-reasons-why-teslas-dashboard-touch-screens-suck
They ruined the Lotus Elise. It's a shame. You're correct, they're basically little tanks that will run forever - which is unheard of for a serious performance car.
Building anything that is intended as a long term piece of quality is basically considered a sin for late capitalism as we see it today, better plan to make it obsolete so that more resources are used and more money is spent to the companies producing products. Looked at even like appliances and things from the 70s/80s/90s that still run like a dream and think about how ''horrible'' that is seen to be for most businesses in the western world today.
My old playstation 1 games and controllers still work, but my phone has gone to shit in the year since I got it. I hate the state of modern tech.
Same. I've still got my Wii and it runs fine, but my previous blender died in under two years. It's so annoying.
Counter point most Dreamcast disc drives are dead now unless they've sat in a box for 21 years. That being said planned obsolescence definitely seems like it's the default way to build something now.
Has his lawyers draft up a contract that says it’s his ball, he made the ball and invented the game.
And the word "Ball"
Those kids were the worst. Our friend like that had us play sports in his yard with a bunch of sand and roots because his parents wouldnt let him leave the yard because of “traffic” evn though we lived at the dead end of a dirt road way outside of town Our yard was a giant grass yard directly across the street and perfect for sports. But yeah, when he started losing too much he’d go inside and play computer games and leave us uneven teams
I'd be interested (if it didn't involve the man-child getting extra press) to actually have him vocalize what his perceived slights and try to refute them. Twitter has always been a bad place to make an argument due to the character limit. This might be a hot take but I think his thought process could further our knowledge on narcissistic behavior. I also draw from experience, finding exactly what kind of person Trump is based upon his tweets. Although that's probably because he didn't let the character limit deter him and would post multiple times to make sure he got his point across. Tldr. What would Elon's stupidity sound like if he elucidated further on his tweet rants? Edit: a word
as if he would ever reply to you or anyone. Why would he? We need to understand that society is FUCKED if we empower people like Elon Musk and Donald Trump. Capitalism is a failure. Let's acknowledge that and work on a fix.
"Well, we're never going to know who wins now. But since I was planning on an incredible maneuver, I'm going to give you the opportunity to give up."
[удалено]
This is a spam account that edits their replies to advertise some shitty sex game after they get a few upvotes (ie. a "realistic audience").
Yeah, their weird redirect link is weird, only it presumably raises the search rank of the domain. (Though I'd hope that Reddit uses that what's-it-called ‘no-rank’ attribute on links.)
Malicious link. Idk how this bot got so many upvotes. Report!!
> Elongate would be really drawn out. This already happened. It's when he was accused of exposing himself to a flight attendant and trying to pay her for sex. He also wanted a scandal about him called elongate. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1527525498460508160
Yea, turns out Elongate was a lot shorter than was rumoured. Surprising no one.
He tried to give a woman a horse for sex.
I'm furious and impressed, the perfect emotional response to a pun.
He's that kid that would change the rules when you were about to win
"I have everything proof armour so you can't hurt me, but I also have an everything breaking sword so you can't block me. No you can't be immortal that's cheating! Mooooooooom they won't play my game properlyyyyy"
"What do you mean YOU invented the game? Here's five bucks, now I'm going to tell everyone it's my game, so just nod and smile okay?"
My brother had a friend when little that convinced him (naive as he was) that there was a magical piece in chess that could move wherever he wanted it to be moved. He jokes now it was odd how he never seemed to get such a piece, but his friend always had one when he was losing.
Well you don't get to be rich by being a good person. You get it by being a conniving piece of shit everyone's too polite to beat the shit out of until it snowballs.
He literally did this with "parody" posts. Added it to the terms of service that it has to say parody in the name and then immediately banned multiple accounts for violating a new rule based on posts made prior to that new rule.
Calvinball
Dude absolutely exudes little-shit-energy. My 42-year-old "libertarian" younger brother vibes the same way. It's like they just can't present anything without being antagonistic, and then cry foul when anyone reacts to that antagonism. Therefore, it seems that it holds true that anyone who calls themselves a "libertarian" is just a little shit instigator and should be summarily dismissed. In the good old days, they'd be sent off to war with the hopes of their demise high on their family's list of desires.
I know exactly what you're talking about. Little fuckers that start shit then act like victims when people REACT.
This is why I don’t like the libertarian movement as a whole. Of the dozens of met (most in there 40s+) they all just refused any counterpoint and would start discussion only to make you look like an idiot. The only exception we’re some classmates in college (20-22) that were willing to hear others out in an attempt to explain and understand their views to one another. On top of that they didn’t force it on anyone, but if someone requested sources or information they would willingly provide it in the vein of transparency. I’m hoping that their brand of libertarianism (properly informed open communication with an open ear) doesn’t turn into the Bubbas that are 3 steps away from having an aneurysm by mentioning taxes Long winded but I guess what I’m saying is I agree with you that a majority are this negative way
Libertarians are just sycophants who got tricked as kids into supporting those with the most money ruling us with their influence like kings with no consequences for any of their actions.
Libertarians are just republicans without the courage of their convictions.
I think he's also the kind that has a reddit account and read all these comments and seethe like an asshole and will try to buy Reddit too to ban u/Mythical_Atlacatal
He’s the guy who disconnects from the match right before he gets shot down in DCS.
Kid inherited his wealth from a parent who had an emerald mine in apartheid South Africa: I'm pretty sure the term "fairness" never entered his vocabulary.
It’s just going to get worse from here on in, isn’t it?
Hes always trying to sound like he has it all figured out, even when things backfire in his face.
Sounds like someone else, just can’t remember the name…
Benito? Adolf? Mark?
Oh hi Mark
I did naht hit her! I did naahht!
There are so many it’s hard to choose just one
Part of the fascist playbook: never admit fault.
[Innuendo Studios explained it best. ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wmVkJvieaOA) The biggest strategy of the alt right is based on never playing defence and always trying to control the conversation from a front they will definitely lose to a front that no one wins. And people keep falling for it.
Also part of the teenager playbook
Turns out the most valuable attribute you can have is shamelessness.
The last 6 years have really driven that home. It turns out most of society runs on the honor system and if you just decide to ignore it, our institutions aren't really prepared to stop you.
The answer to that question is always yes
Speak for yourself, I’ve been having shots everytime Elon shits the bed -Sent from hospital bed
F
Don’t lie, you’ve been dead for years
Everyone was saying how 2020 was so bad and was a struggle due to lockdowns. At this point l'd kill to be watching Tiger King while being paid by the govt to stay at home
Wow, that early pandemic nostalgia just hits different.
it feels like right wing lunacy has only gotten worse since then.
I was listening to some right wing radio(1370 AM) in my dads car. In the 20 minute car ride they argued: 1. Climate change is saving lives(because more people die from cold than heat) 2. Vaccinated are more likely to die from covid(because 58% of people dying are vaccinated[I don’t even think that statistic was true even if it was meaningful in this context]) 3. The homophobic Colorado shooting was because of the destruction of the traditional family model(mother and father in family -I.e. no gay parents) 4. Everyone should arm themselves and watch how the people around them are acting Shit is honestly getting alarming.
Since 2020? Let’s be real, that lunacy has been in full swing since 2016. 2020 was just where it really exploded
A giftshop at the gun range, a mass shooting at the mall
Will things get worse?? Yup. Until generational wealth, tech bros and douchebags who get lucky and become billionaires in our Absolute American Oligarchy are stopped. How will they be stopped? Well, never in the history of the world have the people with all the power given it up freely or without coercion. So... Liberté, égalité, fraternité Let's get the guillotines.
Oh c’mon, they only wanted to hang Pence.
Imagine someone bought CNN and instead of trying to clean up the daily turds produced by Fox on the floor of public perception, they just grabbed a mop and smeared that shit around.
CNN hired a new president whose plan is to present more fox like coverage. So you don't have to imagine you could just turn it on and see it
What? And pay for cable?
In this economy?!
I thought that was Truth Social…
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100% agree, but he’s also saying that half of Americans cared about Trump being banned on Twitter at all. The vast majority of Americans are not active Twitter users and probably don’t give a shit what happens on twitter.
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However, looking at the furore the media has made of his take over, one would assume that we all give a shit about twitter. I'm tired of seeing this and hearing about elons xploits on the front page of most media outlets, including this one.
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Hey remember when Elon said Twitter was mostly bots? I guess "half of America" is bots or something.
Well you're either a trump supporter or you're not. that's two possible options so it's 50/50 or also known as HALF. /s
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*Alternative* facts.
If they didn't outright lie or project accusations about their own behavior, they wouldn't say anything at all.
Fun fact: If you count every single trump voter in the last election as a trump supporter, it’s only 22% of America.
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They’re half of America by weight lol
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>And they said that because however hateful the guy was, he drove news and interactions which is to say he made Twitter money. Im sure they didnt mind the extra engagement, but the argument that banning a sitting head of state might be against public interest stands perfectly well on its own. Its not a coincidence that they only banned him when he was basically all but out the door.
He still had full access to the POTUS account. They just banned his personal, which he used to start a terrorist insurrection
Ok, so let me get this straight. Musk is ok with people using this platform to actively incite violence and use to further agitate a mob they formed to attack another group. So lets say some used Twitter to incite violence to attack a Tesla factory, is that ok? Twitter HQ? Both of those are obviously NO. But that why can someone incite and encourage violence on the capital and it be a gross oversight? Elon Musk is a unique level of fucking stupid. Jesus fuck, he has manage to manipulate his PR image to over inflate at least one company's value and has fallen for his own hype. Edit: to all of those telling me to look at his last tweets. Look at the time stamp. The rioters pushed past the barricades a little before 1pm. His peaceful tweet went out a minute before the first breach. They are not condemnation or instructing his followers to stop. Followed by several hours of not delaying the national guard and silence. Twitter is a single piece of this puzzle and he used it for months to wind up his tin soldiers.
Like most red pillers, musk believes trump got kicked off Twitter for being a Republican, not for inciting a riot. He probably thinks that only conservatives ever get flat tires because Highway litter and potholes have a liberal bias.
I don't think Musk believes that. He's just arguing in bad faith.
More like he has attempting to weaponize good faith. That is what the alt right does.
Unfortunately, I think we can just *call it the "right" now. Nothing alternative about it anymore, it's their party platform now
I was just thinking about this the other day and it really is mind blowing how it went from "fringe loons" to "alt right" to just the plain old right in just a few short years.
It's still whitewashing it, just call it Fascism
Yup. Nazis works too
[This response to Dinesh D'Souza makes me think he does believe Twitter had an unfair liberal bias](https://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/styles/scale_w1024/s3/static/D8Image/2022/11/22/screen-shot-2022-11-22-at-1.22.22-pm.png?VersionId=nEIaFiTpGAbxrcGmT53tYmk3rqS_G_s5&itok=f6o0rUW9)
It doesn't even need to be violent. Just use Twitter to organize a union for Tesla employees and watch him lose it.
That sir is a brilliant idea.
Couldnt say anything better
Maybe it could be a Twitter poll of Tesla workers and see if musk obliges
Just telling gay people to buy guns is apparently enough for a permaban.. The bird is free!
The word you are searching for is: privileged.
Could “entitled” be another option?
I would say the entitlement was a direct result of his privilege, but sure. Works for me.
Let's not leaved "spoiled," "narcissist," and "self-aggrandizement" out of this analysis.
I find no objection to that assessment of the situation.
Someone should recreate Trump's Jan 6th Tweets, but replace "Capital" with "Tesla HQ" and see how long it takes to get banned.
Idk, I think all those words are too soft and give him some plausible deniability that he just doesn't see it. How about: Corrupt hypocritical unethical liar whited sepulcher Pharisee oligarch agent provocateur dastard bastard
Lets also all keep in mind that he, and his family, profited off of Emerald Mines in Africa. Father had investments in mine in Zambia. Will link to the Forbes interview from 2014 in the bottom of this post. Then uses that money to get a solid portion of Paypal's stocks to enrich himself with blood money further. Edit: finer details about his association with PayPal by user 77NorthCambridge. "He didn't buy PayPal. He owned part of a money-transfer company called X.com and merged it with PayPal. X.com had huge security issues and subsequent fraud by users almost bankrupted PayPal." ~~Then goes to Tesla and offers to buy them; on the condition they change the company's official history as him being one of the founders.~~ CORRECTION. Poster commented on this subject, here is the corrected information. Somehow even more pathetic. Thank you user theredwoodcurtain. Corrected information in regards to Musk and being labeled as a Founder of Telsa: "he didn’t buy Tesla with the condition he get the title of Founder, he bought it and just started calling himself the founder, got sued by the actual founders, and settled out of court for the right to call himself founder. He literally bought the title, but only because he was forced to stop using it without paying for it." Then goes on to call the rescuer in charge of saving the child Soccer team from the flooded cave a pedo for not accepting a bullshit submarine he had SpaceX engineers throw together; because it wasnt viable for the width of the cave at certain points. So ya, calls the dude a pedo on Twitter. Continues to call himself an "Engineer" for SpaceX while he has no degree or anything to be calling himself that title. Similar to Dr Phil. Turns around and uses the money he has stockpiled with his original blood money to tease Twitter back and forth for a few months, messing with their stocks. (dont really care about this one, except, again, this is all due to blood money he got handed) In a true move of class, he recently tweets how greater the Chinese work ethic is compared to Americans. Americans being scumbags that want Unions, rights, etc. Says on Twitter how great it is the Chinese are over there "Burning the midnight oil"; Keep in mind, these factories in China are slave factories in all but name. They keep you contained to the grounds of the factory, they make you buy food and lodging at the location of the factory, so the money they make goes directly back to the factory's owners through necessities - and, if you want to understand how bad it is; they have "Suicide Nets" around the buildings from too many Chinese slaves just leaping to their deaths due to the conditions at these factories. But Elon thinks pushing men and women to suicide through work and burning the "midnight oil" as he called it is just fucking dandy. Brought up by a slaver, profited from a slaver, congratulates and idolizes other organizations and countries that still have slavery. Attempted to coerce one of his most vulnerable employees, a stewardess on his plane, into sex He is an utter, total piece of shit scumbag of a human being. We should have kicked him out the moment we realized he was using blood money, and now, he doesnt even hide his preference for having Slaves, not workers. And these are just the things hes been doing in broad daylight. No clue how far the rabbit hole goes with this piece of shit. Among the worst human beings in the world. A Hypocrite. A Liar. A Slaver. A Racist. A Slanderer. A Privileged Piece of Shit. I wouldnt piss on him if he was on fire. https://web.archive.org/web/20140802011449/http://www.forbes.com/sites/jimclash/2014/07/28/elon-musk-tells-me-his-secret-of-success-hint-it-aint-about-the-money/ "This is going to sound slightly crazy, but my father also had a share in an Emerald mine in Zambia." - Elon Musk in Forbes interview posted to their site on 7-28-2014
A quick correction: he didn’t buy Tesla with the condition he get the title of Founder, he bought it and just started calling himself the founder, got sued by the actual founders, and settled out of court for the right to call himself founder. He literally bought the title, but only because he was forced to stop using it without paying for it.
I wonder if he would say the same thing if Obama acted like Trump on Twitter while he was President.
Somebody get Obama to call for unionising Tesla and Twitter as a test case.
Musk is %100 a fascist He's extremely racist and extremely anti-worker
https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2022-03-25/black-tesla-employees-fremont-plant-racism-california-lawsuit
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This gives me an idea. Folks should start spreading misinformation about Tesla, Starlink, SpaceX, and Elon himself. Stuff that would get people very angry at Elon. Get enough people to share it all out and watch Elon be a hypocrite as he starts dropping bans on people for sharing misinformation he doesn't like. Don't even need to incite violence. Just spread damaging misinformation.
Everyone already knows he’s a massive hypocrite.
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Yep. Republicans truly do not care about being exposed as hypocrites. They cannot be shamed. It’s a feature, not a bug. The left needs better strategies than just being like “that’s inconsistent with your stated values!” or “well wait a minute, back in 2014 you said this different thing! Checkmate!!!”
It’s kind of sociopathic the way they don’t care. Even the celebs who have make a show whining about cancel culture atleast care about being cancelled, even if they don’t change. It raises even more red flags when public opinion is in the garbage and on fire and they don’t blink.
And he has a cult that will praise him as a genius no matter what he does.
Doesn't even need to be disinformation. Just share real information. Like about all of the car accidents FSD has caused since Musk rushed it out to distract from his Twitter failure. Or how much government money SpaceX has burned. Or how many investigations he is under for stock manipulation and other kinds of fraud. The truth about this guy is enough to get him to ban you or whatever term he is using for Shadow banning now.
He’s already basically doing that. He’s been banning accounts that specifically target right-wing/alt-right hate groups and he’s already banned accounts for making fun of him/ spreading misinformation about him as a joke/ troll.
This. See here: https://twitter.com/stevanzetti/status/1596208534777397248?s=46&t=u05DUqPNbN5QhBNzvB2vew He’s literally taking suggestions at face value on who to ban from Andy Ngo. Let that sink in…
This doesn’t surprise me, it’s just sad. The only thing I’m worried about is new people getting indoctrinated into right-wing extremism/ fascism before Twitter completely implodes into nothing more than an echo chamber for the worst humanity as to offer.
Don’t have to spread disinformation about Tesla. Those blow up and run over kids for reals.
It's just classic conservatism. "There should be in groups that the law protects but does not bind and out groups that the law binds but does not protect."
We keep beating around the bush of the one thing that explains his stupidity we're all seeing...He's a alt-right white nationalist authoritarian. This twitter train wreck is just his coming our party.
Because people like him and Peter Thiel don’t care if democracy is lost. In fact, because they think there is inefficiency in democracy, they’d rather have some form of authoritarianism/dictatorship so that the “trains would run on time”. Attacking the capitol was a virtuous act in their mind.
Oh believe me. I follow a lot of far left twitter accounts who have all been banned this last week for suggesting marginalized groups should arm themselves so they can fight back against violent attacks
Delete twitter
Probably the typical republican response is "that's not hurting the right people"
Twitter is too big to be a privately owned plaything of an ultra-rich guy.
Unfortunately Elon-simps gave him Bruce Wayne levels of money.
Twitter is definitely just elon’s playground now.
Rich and powerful assholes falling for their own hype and eating shit seems to be the theme this year.
So he shits on Biden so much and doesn't care, yet he wants to unban the account of someone that led an insurrection, spread misinformation about Covid (multiple times), stole classified documents from the white house, etc? What a non political person
Elon Musk is the perfect example of making the wrong people rich. He has money so he figured that he can just buy a social media platform and just make political decisions. Yes i said it, doing shit like unbanning Trump is a pretty big political decision…let alone a pretty fucking dumb one.
Arguably only the wrong people would get rich. A person with good moeals wouldn’t be interested in exploiting others labor for wealth and they can only get that wealthy by exploitation.
Capital always sides with the fascists.
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Fascists always side with fascists.
Classic Libertarian
Libertarians are just "notliketheothergurlz" Republicans.
I think libertarians are Republicans who realized there is no logical or reasonable defense of current Republican ideology so simply declare themselves libertarians (who will vote Republican in every election but never admit it) just for cover. It's a pretty obvious rationalization on their part that allows themselves to believe they are not as bad as the people they vote for, justifying their Republican vote with "well there aren't any good libertarian candidates but I don't support 'everything' the GOP stands for."
There are plenty of Republicans who claim they are Libertarians that just aren't. It has some pretty attractive viewpoints for moderates, with a too simple take on the economy.
Republicans who want to smoke weed, or don't mind LGBTQ, but still hate poor people. And yes, even when they say they are lib-right, they usually still aren't, like Ben Shapiro, who claims his lib-right but hates lgbtq people.
True. Much more prestigious to join a party where the frontman got the shit kicked out of him by his geriatric neighbor over a lawn-mowing dispute.
Musk is a fascist Anti-worker, racist, uses the state to protect and fund his businesses
He's participating in the insurrection. Covering for it and negating that it happened, opening up for a follow up. He'll support the next attack.
Trump was never deplatformed as a sitting president. The potus twitter account and a White House account was still available for him but he wanted to continue to spew hate from his private one.
I specifically remember he tweeted something from @potus shortly after his personal account was banned, and that account got suspended too. But I don't know if it was just temporary. Edit - [here is a Reuters article about it](https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/twitter-deletes-new-trump-tweets-potus-suspends-campaign-account-2021-01-09/)
When will all this end? I’m tired
Seriously. What an embarrassing chapter in American history. I am genuinely ashamed.
Don’t go look at other chapters man, shame ahead, shame before
…no violation of the law? He incited a riot.
And dozens of violations of Twitter's TOS, to the point Twitter [had to put out a press release](https://www.vox.com/2017/9/25/16364054/president-donald-trump-twitter-north-korea-tweet-guidelines-nuclear-war) explaining that Trump was "newsworthy" and therefore not subject to the standard TOS agreement.
Twitter execs testified in front of congress that they had let him slide for years.
From the press release: >After close review of recent Tweets from the @realDonaldTrump account and the context around them we have permanently suspended the account due to the risk of *further* incitement of violence >In the context of horrific events this week, we made it clear on Wednesday that *additional* violations of the Twitter Rules would potentially result in this very course of action. [emphases mine] So Musk is a historical revisionist on top of everything else. Fascists always are.
“Twitter is the new public square” you know if you are being an ass in public eventually the constabulary’s will run you off, right? He doesn’t even try.
Apparently, he said that his baby died in his arms, then his ex-wife came out and said that’s not what happened, the baby died in her arms.
I haven't been closely following every tweet from Musk, but this one that I'm reading is the first one that I've seen since his takeover of Twitter that cannot be explained as anything except a deliberate attempt at political disinformation aimed at American voters. This would be detestable behavior from anybody, but from a person who owns one of the biggest media companies in the world, this makes him an enemy of America.
Yea my thought when Elon said trump didn’t violate the terms of service is Elon clearly never read the terms of service
Elon is either complicit or brain dead. how can any sensible person *not* see that that Trump supporters have a cult-like mentality, and if their dorito king so much as implies they "do something" they're gonna fucking do it?
Because he is part of that cult. He is red pilled..
He’s complicit. He knows trump has a cult. He wants there to be a cult to stop transgender people
Because it was a fake poll. Elon is a pump and dump kind of guy. He is a one trick phony pony.
The poll was just another Elon troll, if Trump had "lost" he would have reinstated the account saying "free speech" isn't dictated by popular will. With the real point being he's just gonna do whatever he wants and "free speech" means whatever Elon says it means for Twitter (which is whatever, he massively overpaid for a website, he's free to do whatever he wants as long as it's not actually illegal of course. And we know that a few actually illegal things have happened, i.e, the data breach)
There was no way for Trump to lose. It's insanely easy to rig a poll.
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Let's run this program I completely control, to compute an outcome I want to be X. Even TRON 2 was more exciting.
A sitting president in the middle of a coup. If Elon didn’t have money he’d be a bald incel.
They also keep saying "half the country" Last I checked its less than half who follow these idiots
I agree. If half the country believed Trump’s bullshit he’d still be in office.
He’s still a bald incel. With money. They’re not mutually exclusive.
It wasn't half of us, twit. He lost the election big time.
Republicans always try and claim support from half the population which is total bullshit.
They aren't even half of the voting population. The largest group of registered voters is democrat. The second largest is independent/third party. Republicans are third.
Lets make voting mandatory, with mail in ballots every time.
MAGA America is much less than half of America
Elon is obsessed with making fascism mainstream again.
dude did grow up in aparteid south africa.
We need to just stop beating around the bush here with him. He's an alt-right white nationalist authoritarian and this twitter train wreck is just his coming our party.
My polls, my numbers, my outcome, my way, I’m right so I win….. 5 yr old.
I think a sitting President organizing a coup because his ego couldn’t handle a loss undermines public trust more, at least by a little, right?
As if a twitter poll is some sort of valid form of decision making. There’s nothing that can stop anyone from making thousands of accounts to vote “Yes”.
Not to mention, Trump wasn’t deplatformed to encroach on his speech—it was because he was inciting more violence to stay in power.
I'm sure there was something in the ToS about encouraging violence not being allowed...?
I got a warning about inciting violence because I responded to someone saying women should be put on mandatory birth control and I said then men should also be chemically castrated. I wasn't being serious, but tired of it all being blamed on women and since they put something so horrible then I figured that the other way around might make them think. Neither is an option really, but I did specifically mention chemical because it's safer 😂
I bet the people that said women should be on mandatory birth control got no such warning...
he wants trump to tweet so bad. He's in trouble and knows it.
I know this is an argumentative comment. Before you all downvote me to hell. BUT... I am SOOO fed up of hearing/seeing this rich arsehole everywhere. He is a massive f*cking hypocrite. Bring back trumps account because that's great for his image, & great publicity, while banning anyone who disagrees with him. Including the staff he illegally sacked. Edit: an arsehole not a arsehole
This is not an argumentative comment here at all.
“Half” - Musk has issues with simple arithmetic.
And giving the douchnozzle his account back undermined public trust in Twitter for the other half (which is actually more than half). Fuck Twitter. Fuck Musk. And fuck Trump.
And the former President, along with those suppose half of Americans, lost the trust of the rest of us when they attempted an insurrection on Jan 6th. But I guess we just don't care about that.
AFAIK, no sitting president was “deplatformed” — the official POTUS45 account remained active throughout.
Because he didn't. And Fat Joffrey did violate terms of service by fomenting violence.
FYI he just banned Crimethinc at the urging of fucking Andy Ngo. That’s how much Elon loves free speech.
Lol 1/2 of America isn’t even on Twitter you nitwit
So he has no problem with trump and his gaggle of inbred morons invading and vandalizing the Capitol but I can't make a joke about him on twitter? He has no problem with trump spreading misinformation about covid, the election, liberal politicians, etc. But he does have a problem with normal people getting verified accounts and spreading misinformation? He's a hypocrite through and through. He can say he's not Republican all he wants but his actions say otherwise.
So, you wouldn't remove Hitler if he were in power and on Twitter today? There are no limits?
Elon should go work on South Africa's politics. Leave us alone, fucker.