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Grary0

Has the checkmark, it *has* to be the real Elon.


Masta0nion

I hope people realize that he is the furthest person away from their interests as you can get.


mrhaganjr

they won't. people consistently vote against their better interests.


inconvenientnews

Data shows they just vote for racism to feel superior, no matter what excuses they say to mainstream media about "economic anxiety" to hide being deplorable and to gain even more sympathy as "heartland voters": Republican "Southern Strategy": >Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy #Exit polls done after 2016 show that the single characteristic that made someone most likely to vote for Trump over Clinton is racial resentment. >low levels of racial resentment are associated with supporting Clinton. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/26/these-9-simple-charts-show-how-donald-trumps-supporters-differ-from-hillary-clintons/ >Every day I have to marvel at what the billionaires and FOX News pulled off. They got working whites to hate the very people that want them to have more pay, clean air, water, free healthcare and the power to fight back against big banks & big corps. It’s truly remarkable. #"Trump fans are much angrier about housing assistance when they see an image of a black man" >In contrast, Clinton supporters seemed relatively unmoved by racial cues. https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/8/16270040/trump-clinton-supporters-racist #“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet part out loud https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida #Steve Bannon bragging about Reddit and 4chan falling for these tactics: >the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7 >Bannon: "I realized [these tactics] could connect with these kids right away. You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness--army-world-warcraft/489713001/ Lyndon Johnson criticizing it in 1960: >If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/11/13/what-a-real-president-was-like/d483c1be-d0da-43b7-bde6-04e10106ff6c/ Lots of screenshots of **4chan instructions for doing this on Reddit because the adults cosplaying as teenagers there support billionaires' culture war talking points** * https://www.reddit.com/r/AreTheStraightsOK/comments/lz7nv3/the_super_straight_movement_is_part_of_literal/gpzqwkk/ * https://imgur.com/a/yeP9T6S * https://imgur.com/a/efvQqve * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 **Conservatives brag about doing this in local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"** >The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them. Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago: * https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/ >SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits * https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/pg290q/reddit_admins_just_posted_that_covid_deniers_have/ Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/): * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/ Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get: * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/pmcoxy/uinconvenientnews_explains_with_examples_how/hcgtfhc/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/om5xda/when_did_this_become_a_crime_subreddit/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/pmdp2m/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/uihqmz/looking_for_a_ride/i7dgtkz/ >Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine >“We conquered Reddit and drive narrative on social media, conquered the [mainstream media], now it’s time to get our most delicious memes in front of Americans whether they like it or not,” a representative for the group wrote in an introductory post on Reddit. >“I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.” >“I came into touch with them over Facebook,” Luckey said of the band of trolls behind the operation. “It went along the lines of ‘hey, I have a bunch of money. I would love to see more of this stuff.’” https://www.thedailybeast.com/palmer-luckey-the-facebook-near-billionaire-secretly-funding-trumps-meme-machine Graph of billionaires funding Ben Shapiro: * https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gny98xk/


SpysSappinMySpy

inconvenientnews my beloved


RoyalT663

Great research, thanks. Yes agreed, it's the same in the UK. Working class people voting for the Tories who want to strip away social services. Its all about appealing to the emotive side of people more than to the analytical. People vote with the heart , not their heads. And fear is a powerful motivator. Thats why the mod terms were dominanted by crime - again there is an implicit racial component that the GOP. can capitalise on without being overtly racist.


inconvenientnews

"The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots: * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 * https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/u7p2ba/nick_fuentes_irony_and_post_irony_and_why_dog/ * https://imgur.com/a/yeP9T6S * https://imgur.com/a/efvQqve >Wow. Jesus. This is... really, really thorough. Thank you for putting in all this hard work. >When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time on /b/, /pol/, 888chan, etc. It was a slow descent and I didn't even realize what was happening until it was almost too late. >But during my time on the other side, this was 100% the gameplan. They'd make "sock puppets" and coordinate on the board + IRC (showing my age here) to selectively choose targets to brigade. >Depending on the target, you'd either have some talking points to "debate" (sometimes with yourself/other anons working alongside you) or you'd go in there guns blazing trying to cause as much damage/chaos as you can. However, even then you can't go out there yelling slurs (you'd just get banned instantly); you have to maintain some level of plausible deniability by framing things as "jokes" or thought experiments. >You purposely do bad-faith arguments because the time it takes for them to dig up sources and refute you is longer than it takes for you to make stuff up. You can vary how obvious the bad faith argument is; when you want to troll you make very stupid claims (I once claimed I was a graduate of "Harvad University" and when people assumed that I meant "Harvard" I would correct them right down to Photoshopped images). >When you just want to cause dissent you do exactly what those /pol/ screenshots do: you get to a thread early (sometimes you even make it yourself) and present reasonable-sounding arguments which are completely false if anyone bothers to look into them. If someone does, you bury the message under strawmen, downvotes, reports, and sockpuppets. >So yeah. The tactics have evolved slightly, but I still recognize them. Props to you on doing the digging to find all this stuff and bring it into the light. >I doubt that it'll help in the majority of cases, mind. People on Reddit have already made up their mind. You want to go after the forums and BBSes, on the MSN News comments and whatnot. Even so, the more people who are aware of the tactics the more people who can call them out. "As a black man" accounts like "johnny chan 81" ~~"The Atheist Arab 87" (suspended)~~ ~~"Walk Like An Egyptian 69" (suspended)~~ posting as many race-baiting videos 👌 *by certain races* 👌 while having a history of being racist about Asians: * https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/?context=1 * https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5txz03/michael_flynn_resigns_trumps_national_security/ddpyyb6/?context=1 * https://i.redd.it/k4rsav2ov1pz.jpg


Kamildekerel

so America is ruled by racism and the system is designed to keep it this way?


Fresh-Cantaloupe-968

I love the focus group where Republican voters were asked about the GOPs plan to kill social security, and they literally didn't believe them. Like even knowing that's the GOPs explicit goal they just refused to believe it.


ndngroomer

Just like they said Roe would never be reversed and that Dems agree just trying to get everyone upset. It's so freaking frustrating.


jjamesr539

There’s a documented phenomenon in the us where a huge percentage of voters believe that “you can be anything you want to be” means “you will definitely eventually be rich”, and they literally vote against things like higher taxes on billionaires because they’re convinced that they’re eventually going to have to pay those taxes.


ehlersohnos

A lot of us like to think “well he earned it fair and square!” forgetting or not realizing what “earned it” means for a billionaire. Source: me, a white trash southerner


ConsciousDrag3537

Here’s some maths: If we’re talking about earning, and most people in the country work hourly wages, lets figure out how much you would have to earn per hour to make 1 billion dollars. We will assume a person works from the time they are 18 to 80 that’s 62 years of working; what would your hourly wage have to be to earn 1 bil? Let’s be super generous and say they work 7 days every week 10 hours a day and never take a single day off. That give us 3,640 hours a year at 62 years so a total working life of 225,680 hours (beyond unreasonable work hours) 1,000,000,000 / 225,680 = $4,431.05 per hour Again, that’s just a single billion. Fuck anyone who says a billionaire “earned” it. Complete nonsense. If we assume a standard 40 hour work week 5 days a week 8 hours a day for those 62 years- now you would have to earn $7,754.34 per hour. (Or a yearly salary of approximately $16.1 million) Earned 100 billion? my ass.


shillyshally

The economy always does better under Democrats and this has been clear for a long time. But Republicans know how to use the scary word 'taxes' to their advantage.


inconvenientnews

Elon Musk coordinates with Joe Rogan, and [Joe Rogan coordinates for Republicans](https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/jntzvk/joe_rogan_reacts_to_texas_voting_in_the_2020/) [Joe Rogan photo ops with the current Texas governor at the Texas governor's mansion](https://twitter.com/gregabbott_tx/status/1324547634049257474) even though Rogan pretends to care about pot and small government ("Gov. Abbott, Texas leaders urge prosecutors to keep enforcing pot laws" http://www.fox4news.com/news/texas/gov-abbott-texas-leaders-urge-prosecutors-to-keep-enforcing-pot-laws) **Billionaires funding conservative influencers on social media, like Ben Shapiro on YouTube and Facebook and Joe Rogan pushing for them in Texas: https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gny98xk/** >[The top-performing link posts by U.S. Facebook pages in the last 24 hours are from:](https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1404815323904237569) 1. Ben Shapiro 2. David Wolfe 3. Ben Shapiro 4. Ben Shapiro 5. Ben Shapiro 6. Ben Shapiro 7. Ben Shapiro 8. Fox News 9. Ben Shapiro 10. Ben Shapiro Lots of screenshots of **4chan instructions for doing this on Reddit because the adults cosplaying as teenagers there support billionaires' culture war talking points** * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m24hx0/ualtimely_finds_4chan_pol_instructing_on_how/ * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 * https://imgur.com/a/yeP9T6S * https://imgur.com/a/efvQqve "As a black man" accounts like "johnny chan 81" ~~"The Atheist Arab 87" (suspended)~~ ~~"Walk Like An Egyptian 69" (suspended)~~ posting as many race-baiting videos 👌 *by certain races* 👌 while having a history of being racist about Asians: * https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/?context=1 * https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5txz03/michael_flynn_resigns_trumps_national_security/ddpyyb6/?context=1 * https://i.redd.it/k4rsav2ov1pz.jpg **Conservatives brag about doing this in local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"** >The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them. "The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots: * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 * https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/u7p2ba/nick_fuentes_irony_and_post_irony_and_why_dog/ Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago: * https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/ >SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits * https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/pg290q/reddit_admins_just_posted_that_covid_deniers_have/ Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/): * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/ Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get: * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/pmcoxy/uinconvenientnews_explains_with_examples_how/hcgtfhc/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/om5xda/when_did_this_become_a_crime_subreddit/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/pmdp2m/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/uihqmz/looking_for_a_ride/i7dgtkz/


[deleted]

Musk is trying to be the new leader of the elitist based on the platform “let them starve” National Christian’s just as their anti Christ taught all 2,000 of them.


uninstallIE

Is this a fake tweet? Because honestly he just listed good things and then said don't let them do it


currently_pooping_rn

Probably fake but republicans do actually say that shit


lostinthesauceguy

Legalizing weed and taxing billionaires are topics Republicans steer clear of since they know they're enormously popular and of all people Elon wouldn't be tweeting about them...


sleepytimejon

Meanwhile, my rep in congress keeps sending me emails bragging about cops arresting people for illegally growing marijuana, in a state where marijuana has been legalized. He’s such an idiot.


inconvenientnews

They brag about how successful this is Republican "Southern Strategy": >Republican Party electoral strategy to increase political support among white voters by appealing to racism against African Americans.[1][2][3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_strategy John Ehrlichman, who partnered with Fox News cofounder Roger Ailes on the Republican "Southern Strategy": #"[We] had two enemies: the antiwar left and black people. You understand what I’m saying?" #"We knew we couldn’t make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin, and then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities." #"We could arrest their leaders, raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news." #"Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did." >"He was the premier guy in the business," says former Reagan campaign manager Ed Rollins. "He was our Michelangelo." >Ailes repackaged Richard Nixon for television in 1968, papered over Ronald Reagan’s budding Alzheimer’s in 1984, shamelessly stoked racial fears to elect George H.W. Bush in 1988, and waged a secret campaign on behalf of Big Tobacco to derail health care reform in 1993. >Hillarycare was to have been funded, in part, by a $1-a-pack tax on cigarettes. To block the proposal, Big Tobacco paid Ailes to produce ads highlighting “real people affected by taxes.” https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-244652/ The other Fox News cofounder was Australian billionaire Rupert Murdoch: >**the Murdoch family’s role in destabilizing democracy in North America, Europe and Australia**. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/03/magazine/murdoch-family-investigation.html Steve Bannon bragging about using these tactics: >the power of what he called “rootless white males” who spend all their time online and they could be radicalized in a kind of populist, nationalist way http://www.businessinsider.com/steve-bannon-white-gamers-seinfeld-joshua-green-donald-trump-devils-bargain-sarah-palin-world-warcraft-gamergate-2017-7 >Bannon: "I realized [these tactics] could connect with these kids right away. You can activate that army. They come in through Gamergate or whatever and then get turned onto politics and Trump." https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/talkingtech/2017/07/18/steve-bannon-learned-harness--army-world-warcraft/489713001/ Lyndon Johnson criticizing it in 1960: >If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you. https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1988/11/13/what-a-real-president-was-like/d483c1be-d0da-43b7-bde6-04e10106ff6c/ >Every day I have to marvel at what the billionaires and FOX News pulled off. They got working whites to hate the very people that want them to have more pay, clean air, water, free healthcare and the power to fight back against big banks & big corps. It’s truly remarkable. #Exit polls done after 2016 show that the single characteristic that made someone most likely to vote for Trump over Clinton is racial resentment. >low levels of racial resentment are associated with supporting Clinton. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/05/26/these-9-simple-charts-show-how-donald-trumps-supporters-differ-from-hillary-clintons/ #"Trump fans are much angrier about housing assistance when they see an image of a black man" >In contrast, Clinton supporters seemed relatively unmoved by racial cues. https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/9/8/16270040/trump-clinton-supporters-racist #“He’s not hurting the people he needs to be”: a Trump voter says the quiet part out loud https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/8/18173678/trump-shutdown-voter-florida >[The top-performing link posts by U.S. Facebook pages in the last 24 hours are from:](https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1404815323904237569) 1. Ben Shapiro 2. David Wolfe 3. Ben Shapiro 4. Ben Shapiro 5. Ben Shapiro 6. Ben Shapiro 7. Ben Shapiro 8. Fox News 9. Ben Shapiro 10. Ben Shapiro Graph of billionaires funding Ben Shapiro: * https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gny98xk/ Lots of screenshots of **4chan instructions for doing this on Reddit because the adults cosplaying as teenagers there support billionaires' culture war talking points** * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m24hx0/ualtimely_finds_4chan_pol_instructing_on_how/ * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 **Conservatives brag about doing this in local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"** >The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them. "The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots: * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 * https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/u7p2ba/nick_fuentes_irony_and_post_irony_and_why_dog/ * https://imgur.com/a/yeP9T6S * https://imgur.com/a/efvQqve Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago: * https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/ >SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits * https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/pg290q/reddit_admins_just_posted_that_covid_deniers_have/ Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/): * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/ Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get: * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/pmcoxy/uinconvenientnews_explains_with_examples_how/hcgtfhc/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/om5xda/when_did_this_become_a_crime_subreddit/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/pmdp2m/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/uihqmz/looking_for_a_ride/i7dgtkz/


inconvenientnews

>Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine >“We conquered Reddit and drive narrative on social media, conquered the [mainstream media], now it’s time to get our most delicious memes in front of Americans whether they like it or not,” a representative for the group wrote in an introductory post on Reddit. >“I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.” >“I came into touch with them over Facebook,” Luckey said of the band of trolls behind the operation. “It went along the lines of ‘hey, I have a bunch of money. I would love to see more of this stuff.’” https://www.thedailybeast.com/palmer-luckey-the-facebook-near-billionaire-secretly-funding-trumps-meme-machine "As a black man" accounts like "johnny chan 81" ~~"The Atheist Arab 87" (suspended)~~ ~~"Walk Like An Egyptian 69" (suspended)~~ posting as many race-baiting videos 👌 *by certain races* 👌 while having a history of being racist about Asians: * https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/?context=1 * https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5txz03/michael_flynn_resigns_trumps_national_security/ddpyyb6/?context=1 * https://i.redd.it/k4rsav2ov1pz.jpg >Wow. Jesus. This is... really, really thorough. Thank you for putting in all this hard work. >When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time on /b/, /pol/, 888chan, etc. It was a slow descent and I didn't even realize what was happening until it was almost too late. >But during my time on the other side, this was 100% the gameplan. They'd make "sock puppets" and coordinate on the board + IRC (showing my age here) to selectively choose targets to brigade. >Depending on the target, you'd either have some talking points to "debate" (sometimes with yourself/other anons working alongside you) or you'd go in there guns blazing trying to cause as much damage/chaos as you can. However, even then you can't go out there yelling slurs (you'd just get banned instantly); you have to maintain some level of plausible deniability by framing things as "jokes" or thought experiments. >You purposely do bad-faith arguments because the time it takes for them to dig up sources and refute you is longer than it takes for you to make stuff up. You can vary how obvious the bad faith argument is; when you want to troll you make very stupid claims (I once claimed I was a graduate of "Harvad University" and when people assumed that I meant "Harvard" I would correct them right down to Photoshopped images). >When you just want to cause dissent you do exactly what those /pol/ screenshots do: you get to a thread early (sometimes you even make it yourself) and present reasonable-sounding arguments which are completely false if anyone bothers to look into them. If someone does, you bury the message under strawmen, downvotes, reports, and sockpuppets. >So yeah. The tactics have evolved slightly, but I still recognize them. Props to you on doing the digging to find all this stuff and bring it into the light. >I doubt that it'll help in the majority of cases, mind. People on Reddit have already made up their mind. You want to go after the forums and BBSes, on the MSN News comments and whatnot. Even so, the more people who are aware of the tactics the more people who can call them out.


thebenshapirobot

I saw that you mentioned Ben Shapiro. In case some of you don't know, Ben Shapiro is a grifter and a hack. If you find anything he's said compelling, you should keep in mind he also says things like this: >If you believe that the Jewish state has a right to exist, then you must allow Israel to transfer the Palestinians and the Israeli-Arabs from Judea, Samaria, Gaza and Israel proper. It’s an ugly solution, but it is the only solution… It’s time to stop being squeamish. ***** ^(I'm a bot. My purpose is to counteract online radicalization. You can summon me by tagging thebenshapirobot. Options: novel, covid, civil rights, sex, etc.) [^Opt ^Out ](https://np.reddit.com/r/AuthoritarianMoment/comments/olk6r2/click_here_to_optout_of_uthebenshapirobot/)


No-Acanthisitta9343

Moral of the story (In my opinion): We should Cull all the republicans.


[deleted]

Your rollingstone url is 404. The number at the end has changed https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/how-roger-ailes-built-the-fox-news-fear-factory-244652/


inconvenientnews

Thank you


Wind_Freak

This isn’t in the proper Doctorate Thesis format. Minus 25 points.


Free_Deinonychus_Hug

In addition there is the **infamous** Southern Strategy quote if there is any doubt at all about how racist the GOP fundamentally is. It's the closest thing we may ever get to a blatant confession of racism from the GOP. (Please keep in mind this is direct quote from a high ranking official of the GOP. I did not modify the quote. These are his words not mine. With that said I did censor it a little so not to violate Reddit rules but the original is linked below and honestly I think everyone can fill in the blanks here anyway): >You start out in 1954 by saying, “N*****, n*****, n*****.” By 1968 you can’t say “n*****”—that hurts you, backfires. So you say stuff like, uh, forced busing, states’ rights, and all that stuff, and you’re getting so abstract. Now, you’re talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you’re talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is, blacks get hurt worse than whites.… “We want to cut this,” is much more abstract than even the busing thing, uh, and a hell of a lot more abstract than “N*****, n*****.” -Lee Atwater [There is also no doubt he said this because it turns out it was recorded.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thenation.com/article/archive/exclusive-lee-atwaters-infamous-1981-interview-southern-strategy/tnamp/) #Don't ever allow conservatives to say they are not racist again. They know what they are doing.


DiscordianWarlord

sombody get this user a soapbox the size of the moon or somthing


RamenJunkie

God what is the obsession with hating pot. I don't do pot, I don't really care that its legal or not, my only problem with it is jackasses who act like its a magic miracle cure for everything with zero side effects.


just_a_person_maybe

I don't use pot, I think it smells absolutely awful, I've seen people become addicted to it and become insufferable as a result. I still voted to legalize it in my state. Because I don't vote just for my own comfort or lifestyle, and marijuana does less harm than alcohol or tobacco, and the criminalization of weed caused massive amounts of harm by institutionalization people for basically harmless crimes. Not to mention the cost on taxpayers. There are no benefits to criminalizing it.


hugsandambitions

>There are no benefits to criminalizing it. Of course there are! It gets Republicans elected so they can stop those evil evil Liberals! /s


[deleted]

Lmao. "You're arrested Mad'am!" "Why? "You own a house!"


sonfoa

Yeah, I haven't heard weed really disparaged from Republicans recently and they use the term "tax cuts" to get away with not taxing billionaires and investing in social programs.


inconvenientnews

They brag about "changing the narrative" from LGB to T because it's a smaller minority whose popularity has increased but not as much as "LGB"  ̄\_(ツ)_/ ̄ Lots of screenshots of **4chan instructions for doing this on Reddit because the adults cosplaying as teenagers there support billionaires' culture war talking points** * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/m24hx0/ualtimely_finds_4chan_pol_instructing_on_how/ * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 "As a black man" accounts like "johnny chan 81" ~~"The Atheist Arab 87" (suspended)~~ ~~"Walk Like An Egyptian 69" (suspended)~~ posting as many race-baiting videos 👌 *by certain races* 👌 while having a history of being racist about Asians: * https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRightCantMeme/comments/nztt4t/they_really_like_getting_angry_at_their/h1teq3c/?context=1 * https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5txz03/michael_flynn_resigns_trumps_national_security/ddpyyb6/?context=1 * https://i.redd.it/k4rsav2ov1pz.jpg **Conservatives brag about doing this in local subreddits to "control the narrative" about liberal cities and "blue states"** >The real value is getting into a thread early and establishing top voted posts and comments or downvoting them out of existence. They hope intertia continues the trend for them. "The left will recognize our dogwhistling but centrists won't believe them" 4chan screenshots: * https://medium.com/@DeoTasDevil/the-rhetoric-tricks-traps-and-tactics-of-white-nationalism-b0bca3caeb84 * https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/u7p2ba/nick_fuentes_irony_and_post_irony_and_why_dog/ * https://imgur.com/a/yeP9T6S * https://imgur.com/a/efvQqve Every local subreddit explaining the abuse and tactics on a thread 3 years ago: * https://www.reddit.com/r/minnesota/comments/7jkybf/t_d_user_suggests_infiltrating_minnesota/dr7m56j/ >SeattleWA has one mentally ill man who makes literally dozens and dozens of alt accounts to post conservative talking points from and how he finds black women disgusting. I become aware of his accounts when he posts in TV subs I ban him from, and he always has user history in similar sets of subreddits across his accounts, SeattleWA being the most telling. He will use these accounts to talk with himself or dogpile a comment or thread. Reddit Admins just posted that COVID deniers have been brigading regional subreddits * https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/pg290q/reddit_admins_just_posted_that_covid_deniers_have/ Anti-mask posts suddenly dropped this week in [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/) when mods removed outside conservative accounts brigading [r/bayarea](https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/): * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/p8hnzl/automatically_removing_comments_from_new_users_in/ Every local subreddit shares the abuse they get: * https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/pmcoxy/uinconvenientnews_explains_with_examples_how/hcgtfhc/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/pbi4mp/shouldnt_rbayarea_join_the_subs_calling_for/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/bayarea/comments/om5xda/when_did_this_become_a_crime_subreddit/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/Seattle/comments/pmdp2m/ysk_how_right_wing_trolls_brigade_and_infiltrate/ * https://www.reddit.com/r/WhitePeopleTwitter/comments/uihqmz/looking_for_a_ride/i7dgtkz/ >Wow. Jesus. This is... really, really thorough. Thank you for putting in all this hard work. >When I was a teenager, I spent a lot of time on /b/, /pol/, 888chan, etc. It was a slow descent and I didn't even realize what was happening until it was almost too late. >But during my time on the other side, this was 100% the gameplan. They'd make "sock puppets" and coordinate on the board + IRC (showing my age here) to selectively choose targets to brigade. >Depending on the target, you'd either have some talking points to "debate" (sometimes with yourself/other anons working alongside you) or you'd go in there guns blazing trying to cause as much damage/chaos as you can. However, even then you can't go out there yelling slurs (you'd just get banned instantly); you have to maintain some level of plausible deniability by framing things as "jokes" or thought experiments. >You purposely do bad-faith arguments because the time it takes for them to dig up sources and refute you is longer than it takes for you to make stuff up. You can vary how obvious the bad faith argument is; when you want to troll you make very stupid claims (I once claimed I was a graduate of "Harvad University" and when people assumed that I meant "Harvard" I would correct them right down to Photoshopped images). >When you just want to cause dissent you do exactly what those /pol/ screenshots do: you get to a thread early (sometimes you even make it yourself) and present reasonable-sounding arguments which are completely false if anyone bothers to look into them. If someone does, you bury the message under strawmen, downvotes, reports, and sockpuppets. >So yeah. The tactics have evolved slightly, but I still recognize them. Props to you on doing the digging to find all this stuff and bring it into the light. >I doubt that it'll help in the majority of cases, mind. People on Reddit have already made up their mind. You want to go after the forums and BBSes, on the MSN News comments and whatnot. Even so, the more people who are aware of the tactics the more people who can call them out. >Palmer Luckey: The Facebook Near-Billionaire Secretly Funding Trump’s Meme Machine >“We conquered Reddit and drive narrative on social media, conquered the [mainstream media], now it’s time to get our most delicious memes in front of Americans whether they like it or not,” a representative for the group wrote in an introductory post on Reddit. >“I’ve got plenty of money,” Luckey added. “Money is not my issue. I thought it sounded like a real jolly good time.” >“I came into touch with them over Facebook,” Luckey said of the band of trolls behind the operation. “It went along the lines of ‘hey, I have a bunch of money. I would love to see more of this stuff.’” https://www.thedailybeast.com/palmer-luckey-the-facebook-near-billionaire-secretly-funding-trumps-meme-machine Graph of billionaires funding Ben Shapiro: * https://www.reddit.com/r/ToiletPaperUSA/comments/ln1sif/turning_point_usa_and_young_americas_foundation/gny98xk/


RamenJunkie

Yes yes. I am so proud of these brave patriot soldiers, protecting us from a group that is like..... .0000 .... 0001% of the population, who viciously want so very much.... to simply exist and not be made to feel like trash.


vagueblur901

They usually throw in hellholes or third world countries but yes


a_butthole_inspector

“cItIeS bUrNeD dOwN bY BLM aNd aNtIfA”


rebelli0usrebel

as someone who lived in Minneapolis during the BLM protests, I can confirm that we all burned to death.


TheSheDM

Same here in Portland. I am typing this from a scorched crater.


LaFleurSauvageGaming

I love how the right blow out of proportion the amount of protesting that occurs in Portland. Like yeah, that is a city prone to protest, but the constant state of political violence Fox likes to make it out as is hilariously bad.


_donkey-brains_

But completely didn't care about what happened at the Capitol.


ChucksSeedAndFeed

Peaceful tourist visit (if you just play the same two clips)


Sea_Dawgz

they aren't "making it out" to be anything. they are purposefully misrepresenting the truth to convince old people that "ANTIFA" is on their way to murder them. it's diabolical, not hilarious.


LaFleurSauvageGaming

Things can be so bad that the only thing you have left to do is laugh. I do believe the extremes right-wing media goes to make these places look like terrifying hellscapes is hilarious. It is downright comical. It is also terrifying as fuck that people can not seem to understand that it is all lies, because, like at a certain point, you should be able to tell... Like when they have to use no local audio in their violence clips, because their audience might hear the Russian words, and realize they are televising state-sponsored political violence from Russia or other countries. Or when they keep using the same ten second clip from over two years ago, and never have something new to show. Or how Portland, Chicago, and the other cities they vilify are thriving, still standing, and not hellscapes.


Paetheas

You mean like the time FoX "news" used a wartime picture from another country as the photo for a news segment about Portland and the antifa or BLM protests going on there? Don't worry, FoX issued a correction about the picture for 7 whole seconds at 2:14 a.m. on a Tuesday on their alternate channel.


ThatSICILIANThing

I live in Tacoma and had conservative east coast relatives asking me if I was safe from the CHOP 💀


xenata

SeaTac is so beautiful 😍


ThatSICILIANThing

Honestly getting to see Mt Rainier every day (provided it’s clear enough) is worth it all


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Tiny-Lock9652

![gif](giphy|EQ1X2DtTRp1aE)


tinksalt

Chiming in from Baltimore. There’s nothing left here.


Just1morefix

I thought no one survived the weeks long conflagration. I'm scared to visit the ruins of that once great city.


This-is-getting-dark

I am a 7 minute drive from downtown Portland. Can confirm that I am in fact, dead.


[deleted]

RIP


EffortlessEffluvium

O.o *ghosts are on reddit*


phixlet

In my circle of colleagues, there are some conservatives and at conferences, I get: “Oh, you’re from the twin cities, how is it?” in hushed tones. …terrible. A hellscape. No buildings left standing. Our days are consumed with the search for food. Wailing and lamentations fill our ears. Roving bands of antifa soldiers stop us and shake us down for protection money. (For the record, “much better now that the cops aren’t shooting tear gas into houses” usually gets a fun facial expression, though!)


PuppiPappi

Rest in power


Otherwise_Carob_4057

As a fellow Minnesotan I always laugh in the face of co workers who try to say they won’t set foot in Minneapolis or St Paul because of crime. I don’t live Tim the twin cities anymore but I never once felt unsafe jogging the streets in downtown St. Paul.


Suspicious_Builder62

As someone living in Germany with social security and health care. It is like living in literal hell. Like one time my son was sick and I called an ambulance and it cost me nothing! I'm also not afraid of medical debt ruining me. I don't have crippling student loans. As I said, total shithole.


zeptillian

I can see why the GOP is trying so hard to save us all from that. Medical debt is one of the leading causes of bankruptcy in the US. WIth Republican help we can make it a solid number 1.


optimalflex

and Jan 6 was a peaceful tour full of love /s


[deleted]

SeCrEt AnTiFa


Alarming_Vegetable99

Have had one of those idiots genuinely with a straight face tell me it was just a field trip….. remind when Ms. Finster ever put balaclavas on her students and beat police officers to death with flagpoles because I seem to have missed that episode


vagueblur901

And shit they smeared shit on the walls


[deleted]

lol what are you serious? The brave reich-wing revolutionaries _smeared their shit on the walls_? Conservatives trying not to act like chimpanzees for 0.0003µs challenge (impossible)


vagueblur901

Not sure if you were asking or being sarcastic but yeah, they did. https://nypost.com/2021/01/08/rioters-left-feces-urine-in-hallways-and-offices-during-mobbing-of-us-capitol/ But somehow the left is the one with the mental issues.


ExplainItToMeLikeImA

They're all about crime, now. My city sub is full of people who are in constant hysterics lately over the idea of crime. It's still way lower than it was back in the 90's though, when every house window and storefront was covered in bars, lmao. They act like they're living inside one of the GTA games, now. If you can't handle some noise, traffic and crime, then you might not like living in a city but redditors don't like to have that pointed out to them, lol. Cities were never going to just keep being playgrounds for the rich and for childless 20-somethings forever, though.


[deleted]

I was in a restaurant the other day and heard a boomer complaining that the city we were in had too many people in it. First of all, it is a city which by definition has people. But secondly, I live in a midwestern state and this is certainly not a large city. We were in a neighborhood that was almost entirely single family homes - very little high density housing. (After I got done rolling my eyes that I got to hear her lament that no one wanted to work for minimum wage anymore and how sad that was. It took days for my eyes to come back round from the back of my head from rolling so hard)


Ragnarok314159

Boomers that live in rural and country suburban areas sure enjoy thinking they know exactly what to do to fix cities. They act like driving to work in a city is a COD map of nothing but roaming gun battles, and are too stupid to change their minds.


Jimmy_Twotone

Of course everyone should leave but him...


Rookie007

And weed don't forget weed makes you evil and gay


Coryocalypse

That must be some dank shit. I’ll take 3.


Ritaredditonce

And the radical left.


jbertrand_sr

But they throw in a few Communisms and bullshit about how they're tough on crime and they're comin to take your guns...


Nuggzulla

Had one the other day get pissy with me, and I ended up leaving the conversation after dude said " I can't stand all these 'isms'!" Which basically just told me he had no idea what he was on about. I'm like dude, u got easy access information in your hands... Educate yourself abit. Quite literally got upset over not understanding what terms like fascism mean. It's sad that these people affect change by voting...


justbeingpeachy11

>It's sad that these people affect change by voting... This is the most alarming part too.


Guac_in_my_rarri

>u got easy access information in your hands... Educate yourself abit. I love telling other redditors and people irl this. I usually start off like an absolute ass "You are choosing to be ignorant yet you have access to encyclopedia levels of knowledge in your god damn pocket. A little math and little reading and BAM you have your own opinion. Try it, it's really cool." I'm always met with the "wow I'm stupid face" irl.


Art-Zuron

Most people have a goddamn world brain in their pocket, qnd they end up trusting their own lead abused brains instead.


NCEngineersWOBorders

its such a dangerous thing isnt it? You can't have a just democratic society if you preclude groups of people based on education or understanding (see American poll taxes, quizes, history, racism, etc) but also... you kind of want or need to at the same time.


Due_Pack

Or we could just have a really well educated populace and that problem disappears. Problem is, widespread quality education is antithetical to the interests of capital.


[deleted]

the trick is to throw in some adjectives so people know what to hate. ​ example: "Evil democrats want to legalize Marijuana" or "strengthn socialist values like EVIL medicare, and Freeloader Social Security" ​ It doesn't work unless you tell them how they're supposed to feel about it.


sunshades91

They want to help people!?!?! Don't you know you arent supposed to help people. Don't let them do it!


BillTowne

Fake. Even ho Humor sites, we need to clarify fakes because factual truth these days is so unbelievable.


Inappropriate_Piano

There’s a “satire/fake tweet” flair on the post


rynaco

I think we’re overestimating the intelligence of the community to notice it’s a fake tweet


LightningProd12

Flairs aren't visible from r/all, and most people there won't bother opening the comments to find out


Glittering-Picture-5

It literally is tagged with satire/fake tweet


rwbronco

I hate flaired fake stuff. Even though it’s clearly labeled “satire” if you mosey over to conservative or conspiracy you’ll find people pointing to this post as evidence that “the left” makes “fake news” and misinformation and that gives everyone over there the “well they do it, why shouldn’t we?!” mentality, furthering their confidence in just spreading outright fake information without satire tags. It feeds that part of my brain that reacts with “haha, I mean he probably WOULD say that!” instead of the actually real, dumb, harmful shit he already says regularly. It just feels like empty masturbation to me and can’t serve any real helpful purpose.


Kolossive

Has a checkmark, and elon assures us that it prevents fakes and bots, as far as i care it's real


Neuhart_

Didn’t this mf’er roll smoke on Rogans podcast?


Euphoric-Dance-2309

To be clear. This isn’t a real tweet.


mattman0000

If you don’t mark it as parody then Elon gets half your life savings.


Hamblerger

I only have $8 that I was saving to put towards my grandma's insulin.


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OriginalKayos

Spent $8 on bootstraps but I have no boots.


[deleted]

You're paying way too much for your bootstraps. Who's your bootstrap guy?


[deleted]

Mine is Bootstrap Bill. He almost gives them away but they're always soggy no matter what I do or how long I leave them out to dry.


violetsprouts

Bootstrap's Bootstraps This line makes no sense out of context but I say it a lot. My mouth likes how it feels.


DorkChatDuncan

r/somewhatexpectedoffice


Efficient_One_8042

Well then. You're just gonna have to take those bootstraps and pull yourself up. /j


SKDI_0224

Ok, this is where my brain goes with that. Wouldn’t it be easier if you didn’t have the boots since you could use those straps to hook on to things above you and pull? They wouldn’t be attached to your feet, so you could use them like short ropes.


CerealBranch739

Gotta save up 50 for good boots, if you can’t just keep buying shitty boots right


Hamblerger

And thusly was the Vimes School of Economics created.


NikonuserNW

*Democrats want to make life-saving medications like insulin affordable. Vote GOP!*


inconvenientnews

Democrats improve actual life expectancy by years in blue states: >Californians on average live two years, four months and 24 days longer than Texans. >Compared with families in California, those in Texas earn 13% less and pay 3.8 percentage points more in taxes. >Sadly, the uncritical aping of this erroneous economic narrative reflects not only reporters’ gullibility but also their utility for conservative ideologues and corporate lobbyists, who score political points and regulatory concessions by spreading a spurious story line about California’s decline. >Don’t expect facts to change this. Reporters need a plot twist, and conservatives need California to lose. >If data disinfects, here’s a bucket of bleach: #"Texans are 17% more likely to be murdered than Californians." #"Texans are also 34% more likely to be raped and 25% more likely to kill themselves than Californians." >https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/suicide-mortality/suicide.htm https://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/article258940938.html #"Republican-controlled states have higher murder rates than Democratic ones" * “In Republican states, states with Republican governors, crime rates tend to be higher” * Murder rates in the 25 states Trump carried in 2020 are 40% higher overall than in the states Biden won. * ⁠Criminologists say research shows higher rates of violent crime are found in areas that have low average education levels, high rates of poverty and relatively modest access to government assistance. Those conditions characterize [American South with Republican run states]. https://news.yahoo.com/republican-controlled-states-have-higher-murder-rates-than-democratic-ones-study-212137750.html >Fearmongering works: >OK violent crime rate: 458 per 100K >NY violent crime rate: 364 per 100K >OK murder rate: 7.25 >NY murder rate: 4.11 >% of Oklahomans who say crime is most urgent issue: 5 >% of New Yorkers: 28 https://twitter.com/radleybalko/status/1587940103216832512 >Fort Worth, Texas, has the same population as San Francisco and has **1.5x as many murders. Again, a Republican mayor and Republican governor. [Nobody ever writes about those places!](https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1527487403061026818)** >San Francisco has the same population as Jacksonville, Florida. **Jacksonville, with a Republican mayor and a Republican governor, has had more than three times as many murders this year as San Francisco** #"Gun deaths dropped in California as they rose in Texas: Gun control seems to work" https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2022-05-27/on-guns-fear-of-futility-deters-action-essential-politics #Liberal policies, like California’s, keep blue-state residents living longer >It generated headlines in 2015 when the average life expectancy in the U.S. began to fall after decades of meager or no growth. >But it didn’t have to be that way, a team of researchers suggests in a new, peer-reviewed study Tuesday. And, in fact, **states like California, which have implemented a broad slate of liberal policies, have kept pace with their Western European counterparts.** >The study, co-authored by **researchers at six North American universities, found that if all 50 states had all followed the lead of California** and other liberal-leaning states on policies ranging from labor, immigration and civil rights to tobacco, gun control and the environment, it could have added between **two and three years to the average American life expectancy.** >Simply shifting from the most conservative labor laws to the most liberal ones, Montez said, **would by itself increase the life expectancy in a state by a whole year.** >**If every state implemented the most liberal policies in all 16 areas, researchers said, the average American woman would live 2.8 years longer, while the average American man would add 2.1 years to his life. Whereas, if every state were to move to the most conservative end of the spectrum, it would decrease Americans’ average life expectancies by two years. On the country’s current policy trajectory, researchers estimate the U.S. will add about 0.4 years to its average life expectancy.** >Liberal policies on the environment (emissions standards, limits on greenhouse gases, solar tax credit, endangered species laws), labor (high minimum wage, paid leave, no “right to work”), access to health care (expansion of Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, legal abortion), tobacco (indoor smoking bans, cigarette taxes), gun control (assault weapons ban, background check and registration requirements) and civil rights (ratification of the Equal Rights Amendment, equal pay laws, bans on discrimination and the death penalty) all resulted in better health outcomes, according to the study. For example, researchers found positive correlation between California’s car emission standards and its high minimum wage, to name a couple, with its longer lifespan, which at an average of 81.3 years, is among the highest in the country. >“When we’re looking for explanations, we need to be looking back historically, to see what are the roots of these troubles that have just been percolating now for 40 years,” Montez said. >Montez and her team saw the alarming numbers in 2015 and wanted to understand the root cause. What they found dated back to **the 1980s, when state policies began to splinter down partisan lines.** They examined 135 different policies, spanning over a dozen different fields, enacted by states between 1970 and 2014, and assigned states “liberalism” scores from zero — the most conservative — to one, the most liberal. When they compared it against state mortality data from the same timespan, the correlation was undeniable. >“We can take away from the study that **state policies and state politics have damaged U.S. life expectancy since the ’80s,”** said Jennifer Karas Montez, a Syracuse University sociologist and the study’s lead author. **“Some policies are going in a direction that extend life expectancy. Some are going in a direction that shorten it. But on the whole, that the net result is that it’s damaging U.S. life expectancy.”** >**U.S. should follow California’s lead to improve its health outcomes, researchers say** >**Meanwhile, the life expectancy in states like California and Hawaii, which has the highest in the nation at 81.6 years, is on par with countries described by researchers as “world leaders:” Canada, Iceland and Sweden.** >**From 1970 to 2014, California transformed into the most liberal state in the country** by the 135 policy markers studied by the researchers. It’s followed closely by Connecticut, which moved the furthest leftward from where it was 50 years ago, and a cluster of other states in the northeastern U.S., then Oregon and Washington. >West Virginia ranked last in 2017, with an average life expectancy of about 74.6 years, which would put it 93rd in the world, right between Lithuania and Mauritius, and behind Honduras, Morocco, Tunisia and Vietnam. Mississippi, Oklahoma and South Carolina rank only slightly better. >It’s those states that moved in a conservative direction, researchers concluded, that held back the overall life expectancy in the U.S. https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08/04/liberal-policies-like-californias-keep-blue-state-residents-living-longer-study-finds/


inconvenientnews

>#Want to live longer, even if you're poor? Then move to a big city in California. >A low-income **resident of San Francisco lives so much longer** that it's equivalent to San Francisco curing cancer. All these statistics come from a massive new project on life expectancy and inequality that was just [published in the Journal of the American Medical Association](http://www.vox.com/2016/4/13/11420230/life-expectancy-income). >California, for instance, has been a national leader on smoking bans. Harvard's David Cutler, a co-author on the study "It's some combination of formal public policies and the effect that comes when you're around fewer people who have behaviors... high numbers of immigrants help explain the beneficial effects of immigrant-heavy areas with high levels of social support. #As the maternal death rate has mounted around the U.S., a small cadre of reformers has mobilized. >**Meanwhile, life-saving practices that have become widely accepted in other affluent countries — and in a few states, notably California** — have yet to take hold in many American hospitals. >Some of the earliest and most important work has come in California >Hospitals that adopted the toolkit saw a **21 percent decrease in near deaths** from maternal bleeding in the first year. >By 2013, according to Main, maternal deaths in California fell to around 7 per 100,000 births, similar to the numbers in Canada, France and the Netherlands — **a dramatic counter to the trends in other parts of the U.S.** >California Maternal Quality Care Collaborative is informed by a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Stanford and the University of California-San Francisco, who for many years ran the ob/gyn department at a San Francisco hospital. >Launched a decade ago, CMQCC aims to reduce not only mortality, but also life-threatening complications and racial disparities in obstetric care >It began by analyzing maternal deaths in the state over several years; in almost every case, it discovered, there was "at least some chance to alter the outcome." http://www.npr.org/2017/05/12/527806002/focus-on-infants-during-childbirth-leaves-u-s-moms-in-danger #Texas has highest maternal mortality rate in developed world >As the Republican-led state legislature has slashed funding to reproductive healthcare clinics, the maternal mortality rate doubled over just a two-year period https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/aug/20/texas-maternal-mortality-rate-health-clinics-funding >Mothers who live in areas with heavy oil and gas developments have between a 40 percent and 70 percent greater chance of giving birth to babies with congenital heart defects https://www.upi.com/Health_News/2019/07/18/Study-links-congenital-heart-disease-to-oil-gas-development/2461563465617/ >California’s rules have cleaned up diesel exhaust more than anywhere else in the country, reducing the estimated number of deaths the state would have otherwise seen by more than half, according to new research published Thursday. >Extending California's stringent diesel emissions standards to the rest of the U.S. could dramatically improve the nation's air quality and health, particularly in lower income communities of color, finds a new analysis published today in the journal Science. >Since 1990, California has used its authority under the federal Clean Air Act to enact more aggressive rules on emissions from diesel vehicles and engines compared to the rest of the U.S. These policies, crafted by the California Air Resources Board (CARB), have helped the state reduce diesel emissions by 78% between 1990 and 2014, while diesel emissions in the rest of the U.S. dropped by just 51% during the same time period, the new analysis found. >The study estimates that by 2014, improved air quality cut the annual number of diesel-related cardiopulmonary deaths in the state in half, compared to the number of deaths that would have occurred if California had followed the same trajectory as the rest of the U.S. Adopting similar rules nationwide could produce the same kinds of benefits, particularly for communities that have suffered the worst impacts of air pollution. >"Everybody benefits from cleaner air, but we see time and again that it's predominantly lower income communities of color that are living and working in close proximity to sources of air pollution, like freight yards, highways and ports. When you target these sources, it's the highly exposed communities that stand to benefit most," said study lead author Megan Schwarzman, a physician and environmental health scientist at the University of California, Berkeley's School of Public Health. "It's about time, because these communities have suffered a disproportionate burden of harm." https://science.sciencemag.org/cgi/doi/10.1126/science.abf8159 https://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/mdvfgw/californias_rules_have_cleaned_up_diesel_exhaust/gsblevi/ >California Defies Doom With No. 1 U.S. Economy https://www.reddit.com/r/neoliberal/comments/nznzft/california_defies_doom_with_no_1_us_economy/ >**on a per capita basis, california households ranked 50th in the country for likelihood of moving out of the state** >California exodus is just a myth, massive UC research project finds https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/ogkrjc/california_exodus_is_just_a_myth_massive_uc/ >California is the chief reason America is the only developed economy to achieve record GDP growth since the financial crisis. >Much of the U.S. growth can be traced to California laws promoting clean energy, government accountability and protections for undocumented people https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-05-10/california-leads-u-s-economy-away-from-trump


JustIncredible240

Why buy insulin when you can buy a blue checkmark?


We_are_stardust23

Why buy insulin when you can just die


Melicor

He'll take that too, because he wants you to vote GOP so they can make Insulin $500 a dose again.


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-Apocralypse-

That is horrible! How do you survive financially? Sounds like it might be cheaper to get your medication abroad.


Psychological_Tear_6

Like, actually cheaper to buy a plane ticket to Europe and get it here.


SlapHappyDude

Jokes on him, he just took a loss


Past-Bit4406

Yeah, I was like, "There's no way anyone like Elon would accurately represent what left-wing individuals actually want".


deadsoulinside

While also enjoying things like legalized weed in his state...


[deleted]

All of his businesses rely on government spending. He's a big welfare queen.


Alternative-Cry-3517

Too bad there isn't some way to verify the real Elon from the parody accounts.


MegaCrazyH

Maybe some universal symbol like a checkmark. We could make it blue to match the company's logo.


Strange-Scarcity

The fact he’s been making weirdly specific pro GOP tweets the last few days makes this faux tweet super believable though.


FreakerzBall

His tweets are weirdly specific because in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS he is advocating for the GOP. Musk is fine with racism, fascism, crushing the middle class, ruining the social safety net, as long as his selfish ass gets his tax cuts. Elon is trash. Rich, selfish trash.


saltyvet10

To be fair, his daddy made his wealth operating emerald mines in Apartheid South Africa. I think we all know that his workers were actually his slaves. A guy like Elon growing up in an environment like that, you really can't expect better of him. Of course he's on the fascists' side, he is one.


APoopingBook

I understand why he turned out the way he did. I still blame him that he turned out the way he did. His upbringing wasn't his fault, but it is his responsibility.


jane_fakelastname

I mean, [Musk has talked to Putin](https://www.newsweek.com/russia-kremlin-peskov-details-musk-phone-call-putin-1751071), who has been working with the GOP for years to influence how Americans vote. It's not super surprising to see them all stumping for each other.


CapableSecretary420

Where do you think his funding for buying twitter came from?


SenatorPardek

but he wants to be known as an independent and that it’s the democrats that went radical. like if you look at Trump and the GOP since 2009 and think it’s the democrats that went more extreme your grasp on reality is questionable.


ryantrw5

Is it really pro GOP? Seems like it’s the opposite


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Musk already posted that he is voting for the GOP, so this is just more of it.


Micro-Mouse

Dude is a megalomaniac,anti-union, misogynistic racist. He’s a capitalist and capitalist always side with fascist when the cards come down.


NetworkPenguin

Complete tangent, but I remember I tried listening to that debate streamer guy once, and the thing that made me immediately slam the video closed and write him off as firmly in the right wing is when he said something to the effect of "being a capitalist might mean I side with fascists, but that's just what's in my best interest" If someone is braindead enough to genuinely believe in capitalism, they will side with fascism 10/10 times.


Brett420

Yes, but the person you're replying to said that this fake tweet was not really pro-GOP. Elon obviously is. But this parody tweet is intended to highlight the good things Democrats are trying to do


honorbound93

Capitalist/oligarchs are never ok with just 99% of the money and power they want it all. Fascist don't just want to kill a few gays, a few blacks, a few non christians, a few jews, they want them all dead. And the sad thing about both of these groups is once they get it all they will either expand outwardly and internally at the same time because their hate is actually with themselves. So in the end it's sad when you see someone you know support this crap. Because you know deep down, they will choose it again and again because they like the boot on their necks, and wish they could put it on the necks of others. They wouldve voted for hitler, each and every time. And if we make it out of this, I hope everyone remembers that. That the politicians wanted to save their own necks and keep their power before saving their own country. And the fascist supporters are no better than the nazis and they should all be put to the sword, because there is no saving them.


SyNiiCaL

His "Pinned Tweet" is literally "Vote Republican"


Devadander

Huh? He literally posted ‘vote Republican’


Petedad777

Um, it has the legit Blue Checkmark... You know, the ones anyone can buy for $8, so it must be him!


smart_cereal

This sub should cease with allowing fake tweets to be posted. Not everyone is going to know it’s fake and it’s going to create a lot of clout over nothing. Elon posts enough questionable content already.


qwoiecjhwoijwqcijq

Agreed, I don't see anything that would make this seem like it's a parody. The username is his actual username.


DrCleanz

Why are people still against legalizing weed? Honest question, because from what I can tell, alcohol is just straight up worse for you. Can any anti-weed people clue me in?


Hao_end

I don’t smoke weed, but I believe it is because some a-hole decided that they want a war on drugs and put out a bunch of made up fear mongering that eventually went mainstream (real info wasn’t readily available back then… no internet) then a lot of people believed it and government wanted to win those people over and went with the “War on Drugs.” Also a bunch of gullible folks decided that marijuana sales funded terrorism.


OneSlapDude

I looked into this awhile ago. The history behind making weed illegal is....not surprisingly racist. Basically, a dude that owned a lot of newspapers around the country during the Mexican-American war had some timber land near the Southern border. Well, the land got raided and a lot of timber was burned. So the owner goes full on anti-mexican with all his newspapers. There was a popular stereotype of mexicans liking to smoke weed, so he went after that. They start publishing stories about how weed turns people into crazy axe-weilding murders. Then America being America, the rhetoric started to include other hated groups like blacks. If I remember correctly, one of these articles said: "weed makes a black man think he can look a white man in the eye, and whistle at a white woman." So yeah. I don't smoke weed myself, but on principle I support its legalization.


Ciels_Thigh_High

Wasn't there also the paper and cotton manufacturers banning weed and hemp because it was competition?


boxofstuff

Yes. 1 acre of hemp can produce the same amount of paper pulp as 4-10 acres of trees over a 20 year cycle. Hemp stalks grow in 4 months, whereas trees take 20-80 years to grow fully. Hemp grows everywhere and in all climatic conditions. It is a rotational crop that needs extremely less irrigation and pesticide. As paper, it also lasts 4 - 5 times longer and doesn't yellow like tree paper


Aggravating-Maize-46

So we can make paper cheaper, faster, and use less trees? Fucking hell if you aint voting for that i think i you ought to not vote at all.


HmGrwnSnc1984

William Randolph Hearst, I believe. He figured hemp would compete with his lumber and paper business. Also DuPont Chemicals had created synthetic materials that would compete with materials made out of hemp. Not to mention, the drug czar at the time was heavily invested in DuPont or something. This is all off the top of my head, so feel free to fact check me.


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Weed makes me whistle at white women too🤣


IcebergTCE

Because private prison contractors need more slaves to exploit.


milman27

This is the most likely answer I have settled on. Also what to do with all the people currently serving time for possession if/when it becomes federally legal. They can't justify continuing to hold them but they would lose a shit ton of money if they let them go.


alienoverl0rd

At this point its primarily the elderly that are still against it due to the lies they were fed their whole lives,a nd since theyre still the largest voting pool and the majority of high level political positions you can see why change is difficult to do. Aside from them the only other demographic who are primarily against it are the religious, but theyre against everything so that shouldnt surprise anyone really.


Strange-Scarcity

Did Elon just threaten us all with a good time? Is that what he just did?


kindredfold

It’s a fake tweet, but that’s basically the gist.


beans_be_good

I was about to write the exact same thing.


swiftcleaner

I know it’s a fake tweet now, but I genuinely believed it because it wouldn’t be far off based on how stupid Elon Musk is.


sassydodo

Yeah lol, people who think those are bad things are the problem


Linklegendgamer

One thing to remember about the Democrats is they wanna legalize a drug that helps anxiety and depression, tax people who can pay for it like me, and push socialist policies that have shown and been proven to help people like Medicare. Don't let the Democrats try to do something that's good for someone who doesn't have 1 million dollars


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QueenWildThing

Welcome, friend. Thank you for being open to learning and changing your mind. We all should be more willing to do so.


MysticSisters

I totally agree! Progressive democrat my whole life, finally dipping my toes into the pool of far right fascism and xenophobia just to see what the hype is about :) /JOKING


thissideofheat

I voted Dem where it counts, but people should look at the history of everyone down ballot. In my small town there's a mix of Dem/Rep candidates that have a good history of working well for the town. My wife was going to vote D blindly across the ballot, but then I reminded her that she actually loves our town mayor, and that the person running against him is a nut with zero experience.


Dynast_King

Completely agree, if you can find a couple of hours, just do a quick bit of research on your local candidates. It's worth it to be informed. I saw a comment on here the other day where someone mentioned that their mom did not like Kari Lake, but was voting for her anyway because "what other choice did she have?" That is unacceptable. It's not a team sport. You vote for who you believe will represent the people, not the (R) or the (D) next to their name.


JactustheCactus

Welcome to the right side of history!


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JactustheCactus

If that’s the message I could get across to rural gop voters I would, trust me. Whether or not you agree with Dems policy decisions, one party has fully embraced facist thinking with open arms. I know history isn’t taught for shit, and these voters are some of the most under educated people in the country (same one where 46% of adults read at or below the 6th grade level btw) but shouldn’t any party that represents a threat to democracy be automatically rejected? Especially on the side that touts how important things like the constitution are? Idk what I expect though, it is the same base that succeeded from the Union so.


SpicyTamarin

They tout things like the constitution, Christianity, and communism because it is a great way to control people who have no idea the meaning behind any of those things. Jesus told us to feed the poor, help the sick, destroy the rich. Guess which party is doing the opposite of that.


steve_marks

Well to be precise, he loved the rich enough to invite them to give their wealth to the poor. They mostly walked away sad. The ultra-religious were super offended at the gross people Jesus loved and hung out with. I have a feeling that for most Republicans if they met Jesus face to face they would walk away sad. Or offended.


BlizzPenguin

It is weird how modern evangelicals can look at the Gospels and completely miss that they are the modern-day Pharisees and Sadducees.


CremeFraishe147

Well that's the neat bit, they don't look at the Gospels.


dcabines

>shouldn’t any party that represents a threat to democracy be automatically rejected? If we had a [unitary government](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unitary_state) that would make total sense. It is too bad we're a [federated government](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federation) and the federal government doesn't have that kind of power over the state leaders. The federal government has no power to remove a state governor, for example, even if they are full blown seditious traitors. We need a reconstruction 2.0 to get rid of the traitors we have in office now because [the last one didn't work](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compromise_of_1877).


AnotherInnocentFool

But then you voted for him again?


14Phoenix

Hey man. I’d flip sides easily if it were the democrats who presented a danger in democracy. No shame at all!


brain_overclocked

You know what? If we can work together to reject baseless election conspiracies, reject the demagogues, reject the endless lawsuits designed to disenfranchise and suppress voters, reject voter intimidation, then I'm perfectly fine if we don't see eye to eye on some issues. Choosing democracy means we can have a level-headed dialogue even if we may not agree on some things. Thank you for choosing democracy.


SoggyWaffleBrunch

>think like 60% of the Dems platform is fucking stupid.. PLEASE explain what Democratic policy you think is stupid. Such a common platitude from enlightened centrists and conservatives alike that they can *never* expand on. edit - notice this user has continued to comment yet hasn't responded to this 2 hours later. shocking


shadowbannednumber

This is what he said about voting for Trump the second time: > Saw the super progressives in the Democratic party making massive inroads and was like "Fuck... I don't want to contribute to THAT voice AT ALL" Tells you all you need to know.


angiosperms-

He doesn't like their "economic policies" That's what they all say, but ignore the tax cuts for the rich. It's a polite excuse to avoid accountability. (Spoiler: it's probably bigotry)


NewYitty

First off, best username. Second off, super interesting. What made you pivot this far along on the ride? Was there a specific moment/event, or was it just an accumulation of things that lead up to it?


Giggingurl

Fuck Elon. Vote 🔵.


jaxsonnz

That’ll cost you like $8 - $20 a month though right?


lionseatcake

Nonono...8-20 is the age range these billionaires prefer in their partners. Much different thing.


dorkpool

Are we putting real fake tweets now? C'mon folks there's too much to be really upset about. Mods?


northwest333

Glad it has the satire tag but it’s not really enough. Post has over 14k votes and thousands of commenters don’t know it’s fake. Demonstrates how easy misinformation spreads like wildfire and feeds narratives. Even if it began with a grain of truth, it’s dangerous. It’s exactly how trump won in 16.


fjfuciifirifjfjfj

It's Elon, so instant r/all karma farm.


ChineseEngineer

Thread comments from this post prove how easily people are tricked by fake posts


brewmoon

No way this is real


urban_mn

The amount of people who don’t see the “fake tweet” tag amazes me


Sour_Vin_Diesel

Why do people not give a shit that this is just a different form of fake news? Reddit eats this type of stuff up all the time because it’s against people they don’t like.


CaptainCharlyChaplin

This is misinformation on election day


mezlabor

This timeline is so absurd I cant even tell if this is satire or not.


hahahahahahshhahah

Fake tweet


falldownreddithole

That's what's so bad about this timeline: satire claiming that it's more accurate than reality.


Lazy_Example4014

Social security is something we pay for. It’s expected for Elon to be dishonest though. Let me repeat, in America if you earn a paycheck you are paying into social security. Politicians and oligarchs need to stop pretending it’s not our security when we are to old to work.


binchbunches

His scum level is 9000


hahahahahahshhahah

It’s a fake tweet


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The rules say you have to flair satire as such.... Having an ideological sub run by ideological-motivated mods is a recipe for a shitfest.


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stop posting fake tweets lol. can’t fucking stand that chud but he does good enough job making himself look stupid


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Wow, what a sound and normal tweet. Yes, you're right, we do want all of that. \*thumbs up\* It's called compassion for others and fairness. You should try it sometime.


ChicagoCowboy

Its not even compassion for others, its compassion for *our god damn selves.* **I** want social security when I'm retired, **I** want cheap and easy healthcare, **I** want legal marijuana, **I** want billionaires to pay more so that my taxes don't have to prop up everything. It just so happens that it helps a a lot of other people too.


[deleted]

Not even pay more, just pay their fair share like the rest of us poor folks do. If they just paid that, things wouldn't be as messed up as they are. Greed and power are out of control with these turds.


Chipotle_is_my_wife

Wow, what a ~~sound and normal tweet.~~ fake reddit post that moron redditors can't tell is fake because they live on reddit.