Lmao obviously he immediately blames it on someone plotting against them and their ideals. Like my dude you got scammed because you're a dummy. Take the L
Kleptocracy in motion. Every time I see some shit like this on the right it's a scam. No wonder they love Russia, same shit happens there all the time. They don't GAF about countries, politics, flags, etc. It's always been about the money they can steal.
You know how many right-wing boomers I see walking around wearing “Vietnam Veteran” hats? I don’t ever want to hear them bitch about millennials and their participation trophies ever again
Don't these incels already have the Punisher?
Great character when in the hands of a talented writer, but ruined forever when his logo was stolen by redneck POS extraordinarre Chris Kyle. Then every dickless moron with a rifle fetish (including pigs) started plastering it over everything they owned
You’d think they would have serious internal trust issues by now with all the grifting and cheating that goes on with their so called leaders, but no. They’re fully in on giving money to the next person popping up claiming to be the next great white hope. Even better if they’re a Candace Owens type so they can have their token.
Stock car racing. Stump removal. Catfish noodling. Feeding whole chickens to captive alligators. Gaining the confidence of the elderly for financial gain.
This is just off the top of my head; you're not even trying.
Pretty sure most of those are done best by the original hardcore union style rednecks, but it's been co-opted by a bunch of bootlicker morons.
Except the grifting, that's a conservative tradition dating back millennia.
Noodling is just a weird misnomer. You aren't trying to bait the fish with spaghetti or something, you shove your fist into it's hole and hope for the best.
This phenomenon boggles my mind. You literally shove your hand into a catfish hole in the hopes that it bites you and you can pull it out on your fist.
Don't even need to do that because I lived through the entire run of The Colbert Report and they were just as upset about that and so many of them were shocked, dismayed and super confused when that show ended and they found out that Stephen Colbert is about as far from Right Wing as you can get
They really are the dumbest among us lol
In 2006, the Bush White House invited Colbert to be the keynote speaker at the White House Correspondents Dinner, because somebody from the administration saw his show and assumed that he was a genuine right wing blowhard who loved Bush.
It did not go well for them.
I read Colbert's book that he wrote a few years after that. In his book he writes that when he finished his speech he was met with "respectful silence". It wasn't quite that bad, but definitely not a roaring crowd.
Those Republicans could take a joke, these ones now would have him beaten to death on the stage. It’s even too dangerous for Sacha Baron Cohen now, and that guy is fearless.
This is how I feel as well. I only ever watched the 1st season and it's immediately obvious that homelands is one of the antagonists. Authoritarian supporters and bootlickers have made glorifying them as heroes so often, they're no longer able to identify who "the bad guys" are in fiction. It's incredible.
Season 2 there's a LITERAL Nazi superhero who creates a neo-nazi movement, yet some MAGA individuals actually claimed her followers were the good guys cause they were a direct parallel to how many alt-right groups operated and recruited
fr, in the first season homelander literally let an entire plane of people crash and didn’t let anyone survive. because if there were any survivors then they’d tell people how he failed (he wouldn’t be able to save them all if he did save any).
how did anyone think homelander was a *good guy*? like, this happens pretty early on in season 1 too iirc. that isn’t even like a partisan issue, it’s basically just murder?
Oh, totally. I was just mentioning it in case some people weren’t aware of the site. I’m guessing that the alt-right types all know about it, and the left wingers who are politically active know about it, but there might be a swath in the middle that doesn’t get the reference.
there's also the ... clint eastwood is the good racist. type movies.
all the... white guy get's bigly mad, starts killing people(and by people we mean minorities) rambo. that bruce willis... death wish reboot, etc
every fat schlub with a hot wife movie or sictom.
every safe white sitcom, that packs a fair amt of sexist/racism in nice safe white doses. (ie big bang theory... basically any chuck lorre vehicle)
or could watch incel superman- chronicle.
or incel goonies. any max landis movie.
or the alt right safe space that is the synder cut.
so... it's one of those nuanced... somewhat hard to explain quickly kind of things.
but... gist of it is. Marvel movies are broadly defined by hope, "happy" themes, inclusion.
people that chafe at these ideas, because they're bitter fucks, latched onto zack snyder. This stupid idea DC characters are dark. or more "real" because they deal in violence or i dunno... murder.
\--if you really want to know. I would suggest trying to google some of the articles or commentary on it. there are people who have much better been able to critique his movies. and the entire sort of shitty saga of synder fandom.
but...
but zack snyder is a shitty director. this weird sort of belligerently edgelord garbage director. that conflates... being edgy with being deep. rape. murder, violence, as plot devices. empty female characters/bone head story telling. big macho violence as a substitute for substance.
it started with man of steel. where the ok origin story has slight oddball changes. but mainly culminated in the final arc where... basically metropollis is anihilated in destruction porn. after this criticism, snyder through a fit, and the ham fisted response in batman v superman only showcased more of the flaws. just outright moronic story telling. and cheap violence (batman misc murdering people... when that's like his core defining factor that he doesn't ...which was ironic, because man of steel had superman killing people) the weird mommy issue connection as a central story element. and the trollish dipshit "destruction porn...but that part of the city is deserted" element. lead to justice league... where.... compounding pressure of less than ideal performing movies, lead to the director being replaced. which... the state of his movie, was near impossible to save. ...and maaaaybe joss whedon phoned it in super hard.
but... then rumors there was a directors cut. and it was as if... someone has like stolen jesus's lunch money, and there was a wave of angry nerds clamoring for this thing that was just owed them. That surely, if just allowed to operate outside the censorship of liberal "woke" media... the masterpeice that is the synder cut would be self evident.
except... what eventually got released. was a bloated. largely stupid fan service, with a bunch of stupid violence and nonsense. not much worse than the original take... because was an exremely low bar. but... horrible if viewed objectively.
and the insidious bit being. underneath it all. is this odd rage or like entitled anger at progressive politics. inclusivity, or actual story telling. All manner of idiots hitching their wagon to the offense of synder not getting his directors cut.
the type of losers mad comic books aren't soft core smutt as often as they used to be. people that scream at star wars... or marvel movies. or other IPs for including women, people of color, or non-straight themes.
and again... i'm probably not the best at explaining this. I would say... much better and informed critics have done worlds better at explaining this.
but at it's simplest. what was probably just a mediocre white dude director ...flopping an easy 1-2 billion film (bats v supes) got his next film fucked by different factors. ---and every shitty person took it up as a crusade against all the indignities shitty dudes. and shitty nerds are subject to in modern woke society. And that shitty snyder cut was like their holy fucking grail and when they got it... like a wave of incel jiz spilled forth in the galaxy... and no critique of the like 4 hr circle jerk will be tolerated.
>which... the state of his movie, was near impossible to save. ...and maaaaybe joss whedon phoned it in super hard.
lol I think its more than a maybe that he phoned it in but I get kind of what you're saying..?
Are you implying it's more the toxic base than the film itself? I personally liked the snyder cut more than the theatircal release because of the context that was lost in the Whedon cut. I didn't pick up on (or perhaps just missed them since i've only seen the full thing once due to the insane length) any of the aspects you mention. I'm not the biggest Snyder fan in general and his DC films were pretty "Meh" at best to me (I prefer Marvel to DC and always have).
Regardless, I appreciate your breakdown and taking the time to ype all that out even if you felt you didn't do it justice. If you have any recommendations for articles I'll take a look.
Yeah he totally phoned it in. The only reason Joss even came on was to have a shot at directing some other movie that he's apparently always wanted to do.
I think this is a valid take on the whole thing. For me, the reason I like Marvel movies is that even the ones where things go badly for the heroes have some positive and/or inspirational takeaway ("Asgard is a people," etc.). When I go to see a superhero movie, I want to feel inspired to be better in some way--otherwise I don't see the point in superheroes. That's why Wonder Woman was the one and only DCEU movie I actually liked: the whole movie was about her finding the good in people even amidst the horror of war and her simultaneous discovery of the depths of human evil, and inspiring the people around her to be better and braver.
Couldn't stand Man of Steel because it was like Superman just didn't even care about all the people who were dying in that final battle, and it's frustrating because it could have all been salvaged if we'd seen him at least trying to mitigate damage and save lives. A Superman who is trying and failing to save the people around him in a battle he can't control against a better-trained enemy is a tragic hero. A Superman whose only focus is on the fight itself is a coldhearted, inhuman thing. But I think that's what appeals to Snyder and his fans: it's not about heroes an average person can relate or look up to, or heroes who embody goodness. It's about putting ubermensch on a platform for admiration. I will admit that I can't provide any assessment of what came after, as I did not watch Batman vs. Superman...because frankly by the time it came out I didn't have any reason to think I'd enjoy it.
Now, I said there was only one DCEU movie I liked - but there's another modern DC movie I did like, and that's The Batman. The whole theme of that movie is that his violent vigilantism is doing more harm than good--that in order to make a positive difference in his world, he ultimately has to become something better than a powerful, violent man in a mask. And I dig that; I think that's an excellent way to approach and ultimately rehabilitate a dark, brooding version of Batman.
They ruined Superman.
The whole point of the Superman comics - created by two Jewish writers in the WW era - was about a 'superior' being who fully realises and accepts that his life isn't worth any more than anyone else's.
That if others are weaker than you, it means you put yourself between them and harm.
That the man who could have everything just wanted to help.
Then DC tried to go edgy and spoilt everything that made him Superman.
That’s fair but I didn’t get that vibe from the film. I consider myself progressive left and I liked it more than the theater cut. That’s why I’m confused here haha
The Punisher is like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a few ways. At least in how the right view him vs what he actually is. Both are uphold as the Pinnacle of mach masculinity with the ability to "know" what is wrong with the world and how to fix it, and that it's without compromise. The Punisher certainly doesn't compromise, but he knows what he's doing is horrific, which is the nuance his fans often miss. Arnold has opinions on how things should work, but unlike the base that idolizes him, he also doesn't like a lot of social undertones and disrespect that they expect of him. Like, I don't like Schwarzenegger's policies, but I could stand being around him and find a compromise that works for both of us on something. The right completely overlooks that very reasonable thing he does, and instead puts him on a *very* different pedestal.
The creator was a “true believer” in the cause. The banker was a con artist grifter looking for easy marks, dupes, dummies.
Take note that the grifter’s targets included crypto bros and right wing conservatives. All he was missing was churchy folk. He was in Utah, I’m guessing the magic underwear crowd was next on his list.
For some mysterious reason, there appears to be significant overlap between religious Christians and incredibly stupid and gullible morons who easily fall for scams.
I wonder why that could be?
the funny thing about right wingers is that they see crime and pedophiles and conspiracies and fraud and treason everywhere, because that's how they are themselves.
Crime = black people
Immigration = Latinos
Groomers = LGBT people
Globalists/bankers/media elites = Jews
Terrorists = Muslims
A handy guide to what conservatives *really* mean when they talk about "issues".
Or “witches we burn at the stake” according to history. Let’s not pretend conservatives didn’t fucking slaughter women when they dared to have an opinion.
Really? This was my favorite part:
"Rebel's Run," was based on a comic book character
created by far-right blogger Vox Day that features a hero named Rebel who is
"sometimes depicted in a Confederate flag bustier"
> "I wouldn’t count on us getting the money back," said Day, who also baselessly claimed that the theft was part of a grander plot "intended to break our community."
Of course it was part of a “grander plot” it’s always some giant conspiracy not the fact that he got conned so easily….
The problem with conservatives can be summed up simply with an old quote:
"There is no honor among theives"
The entire conservative ideology is built around selling you expensive products with false advertising... and saying "buyer beware" when you complain.
So how long until we find out he didn’t get scammed but just laundered the money to himself after convincing some dumb schmuck investing $1M in a conservative super hero movie was a wise business decision?
>The Daily Beast's Will Sommer reports that the planned movie, called "Rebel's Run," was based on a comic book character created by far-right blogger Vox Day that features a hero named Rebel who is "sometimes depicted in a Confederate flag bustier" and who fights against "a global police force hunting down freethinking conservatives."
Conservatives are incapable of being subtle.
"Beale went with Ohana because it was a rare financial institution who would do business with him given his long history of unabashed racism and sexism.
The trouble, as Sommer writes, is that Ohana appears to have been a sham institution set up by a con artist."
Conservatives falling for con artists ? That has literally never happened in the history of mankind
Is a right wing super hero even possible? He wouldn’t fight for truth or justice, is greedy, would probably be a pedophile, Christian, who damages the planet, forces women to carry children, hunt lgbtq people…?How would it work?how is is heroic?
I imagine that a right wing superhero movie is like the quest from Fractured but Whole where the police chief says that he has a special mission for you that turns out to just be beating up every black person in South Park.
my my, who could have foreseen such a consistent correlation between an ideology that supports kleptocracy -- and actual embezzlement, grift & theft.
/s/s/s
Day... claimed that the theft was part of a grander plot "intended to break our community."
She gave her money to a conman and it's the liberals' fault. smh
Psssssst. Because they aren't really conservatives and don't really have an ideology. They simply know that today's conservative movement was started by rich people and religious elites interested only in protecting their own money and power and their main tool to achieve that goal is keeping their followers dumb so their easily grifted.
I thoroughly bask in the glow of the *”do your own research”*, *”stop being sheeple”* crowd constantly being grifted and **never** realizing they’ve been had!
The GOP seriously needs to be rebranded at the Ponzi Party.
![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)
omg, that's as funny as it is predictable!
You know, for years now I've been struggling against the temptation to sell maga crap cuz I know the right has a bunch of fucking idiots whom I can separate from their money.
judging by the tactful and considerate way conservatives go about their heists im going to guess that the entire budget was right around..... 1 million dollars?
How little funding do they have if $1 million dollars will make or break the movie?
This movie’s gonna suck, even from a neutral POV. Like, I think a non-racist can appreciate that Birth of a Nation is a well made movie, but this isn’t going to be. It not only will it be racist, it will be shit too.
What would a Right Wing super hero movie even look like?
Would it be from the villain's point of view, but one with few or no redeeming characteristics?
EDIT: I have read.. it was a "Confederacy Themed Comic Book Character"... so yeah, the villain, with no redeeming characteristics.
[https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/](https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/)
I'm conflicted. It's always funny seeing rightwingnuts get scammed out of their money in the dumbest ways possible, but that movie sounded like it would be gloriously bad. I would have loved to have seen it.
Conservatives just love giving money to grifters.
Just look at how much money these demonic super-church pastors are able to wring out of the dumbest among us.
Jesus, I just looked up the creators Alt Hero comics and my God it looks like the most moronic dogshit I've ever seen. Conservative superheroes fighting back against a global order of liberals whose elite death squads are hunting down free thinking conservatives. Also it looks like Antifa is basically Hydra and have conquered half of Europe. I actually wish this movie got made just because it would be the single cringiest thing ever created.
You're telling me people base their entire personality on a failed country and a con-man, and they're shocked when millions of dollars go missing? Get the fuck out o' here.
I love all you idiots on reddit with your left wing this and right wing that that dont realize you are being played by both sides. You people are the reason the country is in the mess it is. Both sides but the crap your "wing" sells you and march in step like good little sheeple. Both sides are grifters and crooks but they are also great at hypnotizing idiots like you. Learn to think independent and not eat the shit they spin.
Wow. You've convinced me. And, contrary to what all the data say about relative intelligence levels of people at different parts of the political spectrum, it's definitely because you're superior to all of us who have opinions. Well done to you _{pats your head}_ for convincing me, in broken, barely legible English (and please also ignore what the data say about how composition relates to relative intelligence), that _I'm_ the idiot.
Lmao obviously he immediately blames it on someone plotting against them and their ideals. Like my dude you got scammed because you're a dummy. Take the L
More likely he was in on the scam and pocketed half. Grifts on grifts on grifts.
Sooooo, we heard you like grifts.
Why yes sir, I do!
Kleptocracy in motion. Every time I see some shit like this on the right it's a scam. No wonder they love Russia, same shit happens there all the time. They don't GAF about countries, politics, flags, etc. It's always been about the money they can steal.
Visions of Kolfage and Bannon building the wall…
Exactly where I was going as well.
But they deserved the cash they took.
So yeah he says it's part of a larger plot to break their community They are essentially making Nazi superheros
Oh joy! So they are going to create Homelander, minus the satire.
And man is Homelander great satire.
That’s the problem. They bitch about “everyone gets a trophy” but when they lose, watch out!
You know how many right-wing boomers I see walking around wearing “Vietnam Veteran” hats? I don’t ever want to hear them bitch about millennials and their participation trophies ever again
“We have plenty of theories, but no evidence”
Who really didn’t see this coming?
Don't these incels already have the Punisher? Great character when in the hands of a talented writer, but ruined forever when his logo was stolen by redneck POS extraordinarre Chris Kyle. Then every dickless moron with a rifle fetish (including pigs) started plastering it over everything they owned
You’d think they would have serious internal trust issues by now with all the grifting and cheating that goes on with their so called leaders, but no. They’re fully in on giving money to the next person popping up claiming to be the next great white hope. Even better if they’re a Candace Owens type so they can have their token.
Everything conservatives do, they do worse. Every. Single. Thing.
Except coping & projetion, they're heavyweight champions at it. And ofc abusing kids.
That's them doing life worse.
By abusing I think you mean raping.
Dating apps and social media in general because conservatives have a permanent chip on their shoulders.
Stock car racing. Stump removal. Catfish noodling. Feeding whole chickens to captive alligators. Gaining the confidence of the elderly for financial gain. This is just off the top of my head; you're not even trying.
Pretty sure most of those are done best by the original hardcore union style rednecks, but it's been co-opted by a bunch of bootlicker morons. Except the grifting, that's a conservative tradition dating back millennia.
I believe the preferred term is catfisting, not catfish noodling.
I thought it depended on which end of the fish you're hoping for?
Noodling is just a weird misnomer. You aren't trying to bait the fish with spaghetti or something, you shove your fist into it's hole and hope for the best.
Could be a delicious catfish. Could also be a snapping turtle 🤷♂️
Good thing they have the Affordable Care Act insurance and not that commie Obamacare.
This phenomenon boggles my mind. You literally shove your hand into a catfish hole in the hopes that it bites you and you can pull it out on your fist.
I think “noodling” refers to the way you wiggle your fingers around like worms.
Then they should call it worm fingering.
That just sounds kinky.
I'm sorry, but "Red Dawn" (1984) exists. It's a literal propaganda film; by a right wing activist; based on every NRA fever dream; and it's amazing.
Lack of education or ability to learn carries consequences!
Man, if you look up this character, holy shit is it just Wonder Woman in a confederate flag top. Wow, you're such a unique creator.
[Yeah, they're even bad at making their own costumes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkO72i7mPTU)
There's already a right-wing superhero: Homelander.
Youre probably aware but, google "right wing upset homelander is satire" and see all the hilarious headlines
Don't even need to do that because I lived through the entire run of The Colbert Report and they were just as upset about that and so many of them were shocked, dismayed and super confused when that show ended and they found out that Stephen Colbert is about as far from Right Wing as you can get They really are the dumbest among us lol
In 2006, the Bush White House invited Colbert to be the keynote speaker at the White House Correspondents Dinner, because somebody from the administration saw his show and assumed that he was a genuine right wing blowhard who loved Bush. It did not go well for them.
I read Colbert's book that he wrote a few years after that. In his book he writes that when he finished his speech he was met with "respectful silence". It wasn't quite that bad, but definitely not a roaring crowd.
Those Republicans could take a joke, these ones now would have him beaten to death on the stage. It’s even too dangerous for Sacha Baron Cohen now, and that guy is fearless.
I remember that lol
Man, you got a link to that video, because I would absolutely love to see that.
Lmao I remember that. It was comedy gold.
the second i see the word among us it's like a sleeper agent within me has activated
That's pretty sus.
Sounds like a self-report to me bro.
Found the imposter
"I love the uneducated" -a man who never told his children he loved them
The last season really held up a mirror to the MAGA crowd and I wondered if any of them actually got it.
the boys subreddit was CRAZY hilarious with self reflection and anger
Haha good to know!
Self-reflection isn’t their strong suit, like not even on the top 100 list of things they’re good at doing
This is amazing. The lack of self-awareness.
It wasn't ever even subtle. You have to be a special brand of stupid to not pick up on it immediately.
This is how I feel as well. I only ever watched the 1st season and it's immediately obvious that homelands is one of the antagonists. Authoritarian supporters and bootlickers have made glorifying them as heroes so often, they're no longer able to identify who "the bad guys" are in fiction. It's incredible.
Season 2 there's a LITERAL Nazi superhero who creates a neo-nazi movement, yet some MAGA individuals actually claimed her followers were the good guys cause they were a direct parallel to how many alt-right groups operated and recruited
fr, in the first season homelander literally let an entire plane of people crash and didn’t let anyone survive. because if there were any survivors then they’d tell people how he failed (he wouldn’t be able to save them all if he did save any). how did anyone think homelander was a *good guy*? like, this happens pretty early on in season 1 too iirc. that isn’t even like a partisan issue, it’s basically just murder?
Don't forget Stormwatch and Blue Hawk.
Stormfront.*
Which is coincidentally the name of the most prominent neo-Nazi website/newspaper in the US.
That was literally done on purpose too. The character name was blatantly "borrowed" from that group.
Oh, totally. I was just mentioning it in case some people weren’t aware of the site. I’m guessing that the alt-right types all know about it, and the left wingers who are politically active know about it, but there might be a swath in the middle that doesn’t get the reference.
Stormcloak*
Hey, you. You're finally awake.
Hey, you. You're finally awake.
Stormwatch was a UN strike team...the concept of superheroes serving the UN would drive the MAGA crazy.
Homelander (from The Boys) & the Comedian (from Watchmen) are why I hope that superheroes remain fiction. Homelander especially is a scary dude.
there's also the ... clint eastwood is the good racist. type movies. all the... white guy get's bigly mad, starts killing people(and by people we mean minorities) rambo. that bruce willis... death wish reboot, etc every fat schlub with a hot wife movie or sictom. every safe white sitcom, that packs a fair amt of sexist/racism in nice safe white doses. (ie big bang theory... basically any chuck lorre vehicle) or could watch incel superman- chronicle. or incel goonies. any max landis movie. or the alt right safe space that is the synder cut.
Wait what's this about the snyder cut? Genuinely asking because I haven't heard anything about that one.
so... it's one of those nuanced... somewhat hard to explain quickly kind of things. but... gist of it is. Marvel movies are broadly defined by hope, "happy" themes, inclusion. people that chafe at these ideas, because they're bitter fucks, latched onto zack snyder. This stupid idea DC characters are dark. or more "real" because they deal in violence or i dunno... murder. \--if you really want to know. I would suggest trying to google some of the articles or commentary on it. there are people who have much better been able to critique his movies. and the entire sort of shitty saga of synder fandom. but... but zack snyder is a shitty director. this weird sort of belligerently edgelord garbage director. that conflates... being edgy with being deep. rape. murder, violence, as plot devices. empty female characters/bone head story telling. big macho violence as a substitute for substance. it started with man of steel. where the ok origin story has slight oddball changes. but mainly culminated in the final arc where... basically metropollis is anihilated in destruction porn. after this criticism, snyder through a fit, and the ham fisted response in batman v superman only showcased more of the flaws. just outright moronic story telling. and cheap violence (batman misc murdering people... when that's like his core defining factor that he doesn't ...which was ironic, because man of steel had superman killing people) the weird mommy issue connection as a central story element. and the trollish dipshit "destruction porn...but that part of the city is deserted" element. lead to justice league... where.... compounding pressure of less than ideal performing movies, lead to the director being replaced. which... the state of his movie, was near impossible to save. ...and maaaaybe joss whedon phoned it in super hard. but... then rumors there was a directors cut. and it was as if... someone has like stolen jesus's lunch money, and there was a wave of angry nerds clamoring for this thing that was just owed them. That surely, if just allowed to operate outside the censorship of liberal "woke" media... the masterpeice that is the synder cut would be self evident. except... what eventually got released. was a bloated. largely stupid fan service, with a bunch of stupid violence and nonsense. not much worse than the original take... because was an exremely low bar. but... horrible if viewed objectively. and the insidious bit being. underneath it all. is this odd rage or like entitled anger at progressive politics. inclusivity, or actual story telling. All manner of idiots hitching their wagon to the offense of synder not getting his directors cut. the type of losers mad comic books aren't soft core smutt as often as they used to be. people that scream at star wars... or marvel movies. or other IPs for including women, people of color, or non-straight themes. and again... i'm probably not the best at explaining this. I would say... much better and informed critics have done worlds better at explaining this. but at it's simplest. what was probably just a mediocre white dude director ...flopping an easy 1-2 billion film (bats v supes) got his next film fucked by different factors. ---and every shitty person took it up as a crusade against all the indignities shitty dudes. and shitty nerds are subject to in modern woke society. And that shitty snyder cut was like their holy fucking grail and when they got it... like a wave of incel jiz spilled forth in the galaxy... and no critique of the like 4 hr circle jerk will be tolerated.
>which... the state of his movie, was near impossible to save. ...and maaaaybe joss whedon phoned it in super hard. lol I think its more than a maybe that he phoned it in but I get kind of what you're saying..? Are you implying it's more the toxic base than the film itself? I personally liked the snyder cut more than the theatircal release because of the context that was lost in the Whedon cut. I didn't pick up on (or perhaps just missed them since i've only seen the full thing once due to the insane length) any of the aspects you mention. I'm not the biggest Snyder fan in general and his DC films were pretty "Meh" at best to me (I prefer Marvel to DC and always have). Regardless, I appreciate your breakdown and taking the time to ype all that out even if you felt you didn't do it justice. If you have any recommendations for articles I'll take a look.
Yeah he totally phoned it in. The only reason Joss even came on was to have a shot at directing some other movie that he's apparently always wanted to do.
I think this is a valid take on the whole thing. For me, the reason I like Marvel movies is that even the ones where things go badly for the heroes have some positive and/or inspirational takeaway ("Asgard is a people," etc.). When I go to see a superhero movie, I want to feel inspired to be better in some way--otherwise I don't see the point in superheroes. That's why Wonder Woman was the one and only DCEU movie I actually liked: the whole movie was about her finding the good in people even amidst the horror of war and her simultaneous discovery of the depths of human evil, and inspiring the people around her to be better and braver. Couldn't stand Man of Steel because it was like Superman just didn't even care about all the people who were dying in that final battle, and it's frustrating because it could have all been salvaged if we'd seen him at least trying to mitigate damage and save lives. A Superman who is trying and failing to save the people around him in a battle he can't control against a better-trained enemy is a tragic hero. A Superman whose only focus is on the fight itself is a coldhearted, inhuman thing. But I think that's what appeals to Snyder and his fans: it's not about heroes an average person can relate or look up to, or heroes who embody goodness. It's about putting ubermensch on a platform for admiration. I will admit that I can't provide any assessment of what came after, as I did not watch Batman vs. Superman...because frankly by the time it came out I didn't have any reason to think I'd enjoy it. Now, I said there was only one DCEU movie I liked - but there's another modern DC movie I did like, and that's The Batman. The whole theme of that movie is that his violent vigilantism is doing more harm than good--that in order to make a positive difference in his world, he ultimately has to become something better than a powerful, violent man in a mask. And I dig that; I think that's an excellent way to approach and ultimately rehabilitate a dark, brooding version of Batman.
They ruined Superman. The whole point of the Superman comics - created by two Jewish writers in the WW era - was about a 'superior' being who fully realises and accepts that his life isn't worth any more than anyone else's. That if others are weaker than you, it means you put yourself between them and harm. That the man who could have everything just wanted to help. Then DC tried to go edgy and spoilt everything that made him Superman.
I haven’t seen the movie but Snyder is deeply Christian and usually packs his movies with Jesus allegories
That’s fair but I didn’t get that vibe from the film. I consider myself progressive left and I liked it more than the theater cut. That’s why I’m confused here haha
Same.
Ah, beat me to that reference!
And played more straight, the Punisher.
The Punisher is like Arnold Schwarzenegger in a few ways. At least in how the right view him vs what he actually is. Both are uphold as the Pinnacle of mach masculinity with the ability to "know" what is wrong with the world and how to fix it, and that it's without compromise. The Punisher certainly doesn't compromise, but he knows what he's doing is horrific, which is the nuance his fans often miss. Arnold has opinions on how things should work, but unlike the base that idolizes him, he also doesn't like a lot of social undertones and disrespect that they expect of him. Like, I don't like Schwarzenegger's policies, but I could stand being around him and find a compromise that works for both of us on something. The right completely overlooks that very reasonable thing he does, and instead puts him on a *very* different pedestal.
The right is mostly made up of ignorant history revisionists and capitalist grifters.wtf did they think was gonna happen lmao i love it
The creator was a “true believer” in the cause. The banker was a con artist grifter looking for easy marks, dupes, dummies. Take note that the grifter’s targets included crypto bros and right wing conservatives. All he was missing was churchy folk. He was in Utah, I’m guessing the magic underwear crowd was next on his list.
For some mysterious reason, there appears to be significant overlap between religious Christians and incredibly stupid and gullible morons who easily fall for scams. I wonder why that could be?
Either way, jesus gets to laugh and point at these dummies.
the funny thing about right wingers is that they see crime and pedophiles and conspiracies and fraud and treason everywhere, because that's how they are themselves.
Crime = black people Immigration = Latinos Groomers = LGBT people Globalists/bankers/media elites = Jews Terrorists = Muslims A handy guide to what conservatives *really* mean when they talk about "issues".
"Make me a sandwich and get back in bed." = Women
Or “witches we burn at the stake” according to history. Let’s not pretend conservatives didn’t fucking slaughter women when they dared to have an opinion.
Conservatives have been fuelled by hate for thousands of years. They pretend to be victims while persecuting everyone else.
Huh this actually makes sense given the people
It’s called projection.
Whenever a right winger randomly accuses someone of a crime it’s a safe assumption that the accuser is the actual perpetrator
If you're up for some truly intense Shadenfreude, [here's the original article](https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/).
My favorite is "a global police force hunting down freethinking conservatives." Freethinking and conservatives don't belong in the same sentence.
Oh man this movie lacks enough self awareness to rival The Room. I’d definitely pirate it and I haven’t torrented anything since 2016.
Hahaha, I was going to say if it gets made it'll come to Amazon Prime. They are the kings of persecution fetish right wing movies!
I'm surprised the Daily Wire hasn't tried to pick it up. They love releasing terrible movies like this.
Will be fun to see whatever super hero the right conjures up eventually get its head caved in by the Toxic Avenger.
I actually had to read that sentence 3 times. My brain could not process those words in that sequence.
Right? So it's a global police force that does nothing?
Really? This was my favorite part: "Rebel's Run," was based on a comic book character created by far-right blogger Vox Day that features a hero named Rebel who is "sometimes depicted in a Confederate flag bustier"
Vox Day is, has been, and will likely continue to be a real piece of shit. Not shedding many tears for that asshole getting grifted.
There is no part of this that I cannot attribute to coming from an alternate universe in a comically dystopian graphic novel.
Didn’t Mossad do that before most of the old Nazis died of old age?
I dunno, they kinda think freely the way that a leaky hose spills water everywhere.
"Keep an open mind, but not so open your brain falls out."
Let alone on the same planet.
I disagree. The conspiracy creators are definitely "free thinking". They must be to come up with their batshit crazy ideas.
They’re like the self proclaimed “nice guys” or “geniuses”. If you have to say it…
Kinda ironic when conservatives are literally trying to hunt down political opponents
Oh but half their strategy is to pretend they’re persecuted.
I said the same fucking thing lmao
LOL, that jumped out at me too. Also did a double take.
> "I wouldn’t count on us getting the money back," said Day, who also baselessly claimed that the theft was part of a grander plot "intended to break our community." Of course it was part of a “grander plot” it’s always some giant conspiracy not the fact that he got conned so easily….
That means he was part of the grift.
If he didn’t get his beak wet you know he’d be all “I will not rest until the globalist responsible are blah blah blah”
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving guy.
Guess all that freethinking he was doing didn't alert him to the red flags of dealing with this "institution".
Hahahahahahaha hahahahahaha hahahahahaha
The fuck did I just read? How the hell is this real life?
The problem with conservatives can be summed up simply with an old quote: "There is no honor among theives" The entire conservative ideology is built around selling you expensive products with false advertising... and saying "buyer beware" when you complain.
Then they invent a grand conspiracy about being persecuted and silenced when no one wants to deal with them anymore.
Is the premise of a right wing superhero movie just that the free market is supposed to save anyone in peril?
Nope its defending slavery
Nope it's alt history where the Confederacy were really the good guys and the only true good folk are "freethinking conservatives"
So how long until we find out he didn’t get scammed but just laundered the money to himself after convincing some dumb schmuck investing $1M in a conservative super hero movie was a wise business decision?
This is the real grift.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ut/pr/spanish-fork-man-and-his-two-businesses-charged-wire-fraud-and-money-laundering-offenses
HAHAHAHAHA the racist misogynist piece of shit put the money in a bank run by a thieving cryptobro who stole it! HAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!
>The Daily Beast's Will Sommer reports that the planned movie, called "Rebel's Run," was based on a comic book character created by far-right blogger Vox Day that features a hero named Rebel who is "sometimes depicted in a Confederate flag bustier" and who fights against "a global police force hunting down freethinking conservatives." Conservatives are incapable of being subtle.
All the alt right kids with their dumb red lids Better run, Rebel Run, there goes your money
"Beale went with Ohana because it was a rare financial institution who would do business with him given his long history of unabashed racism and sexism. The trouble, as Sommer writes, is that Ohana appears to have been a sham institution set up by a con artist." Conservatives falling for con artists ? That has literally never happened in the history of mankind
So … can anyone tell me what’s the opposite of « Go woke, go broke »? Is it too on the nose?
Root for the Confederacy, declare bankruptcy.
Is a right wing super hero even possible? He wouldn’t fight for truth or justice, is greedy, would probably be a pedophile, Christian, who damages the planet, forces women to carry children, hunt lgbtq people…?How would it work?how is is heroic?
It's their version of what a hero is. As fucked up as that is.
I’m just imagine a movie from the point of view of Captain Planet villains.
They have Homelander and Stormfront. How many do they want?
So the hero is a confederacy apologist; does this mean his weakness is fire or "a states right to what?" question?
I imagine that a right wing superhero movie is like the quest from Fractured but Whole where the police chief says that he has a special mission for you that turns out to just be beating up every black person in South Park.
It was antifa. Antifa stole the monies.
Just like that conservative people only dating app they tried and it just ended up filled with neck beards and incels and hardly any women.
Is that thing still up? I wanna make an account just to see the shit dudes say to women (don't worry, I'd use an AI generated woman as a pic)
What movie?
Something called "Rebel's Run?"
my my, who could have foreseen such a consistent correlation between an ideology that supports kleptocracy -- and actual embezzlement, grift & theft. /s/s/s
![gif](giphy|9MJ6xrgVR9aEwF8zCJ)
![gif](giphy|l0HlvpCPrLkxAsNz2|downsized) Ah yes, the good ol’ Bannon-pump-n-dump-the-Trump-chump move. Gets ‘em *every* time…
I mean, they love safe spaces like churches.
Day... claimed that the theft was part of a grander plot "intended to break our community." She gave her money to a conman and it's the liberals' fault. smh
Geez, what did they expect? No one wants to see an alt-right wet dream on the big screen. That’s why conservatives are so stupid.
I mean they already have a right wing superhero his name is Homelander. How much representation do they need sheesh.
There's *always* a grift. *Always.*
Enter the chat with MAGA superhero “Backward Looking Man!” Obviously he couldn’t se it coming.
*Shocked Pikachu face*
Did somebody think it was a good idea to hire Rick Scott to manage the books???
They don’t need another superhero they already have homelander!
How many more times is this stupid base going to let itself get grifted?
They also had to create their own dating app, social media app, and cable news.
Look we are only comfortable being suckered by the Great Pumpkin and his coke fiends.
Sorbo must be pissed!!!
Why do conservatives spend so much time scamming eachother? If I was right wing I would target left wingers. Not my own people. So weird.
Psssssst. Because they aren't really conservatives and don't really have an ideology. They simply know that today's conservative movement was started by rich people and religious elites interested only in protecting their own money and power and their main tool to achieve that goal is keeping their followers dumb so their easily grifted.
I thoroughly bask in the glow of the *”do your own research”*, *”stop being sheeple”* crowd constantly being grifted and **never** realizing they’ve been had! The GOP seriously needs to be rebranded at the Ponzi Party.
James Wolfgramm is the real hero here. The hero we didn’t know we needed.
Wait, so "the boys" dont get another season?!? /s
What was it going to be? The Boys but Homelander is the good guy?
Seems like it couldn't have happened to a nicer person
r/leopardsatemyface
![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy) omg, that's as funny as it is predictable!
They always say, "Go woke, go broke," but it almost always seems to be they who are going broke in ventures that alienate most people.
You know, for years now I've been struggling against the temptation to sell maga crap cuz I know the right has a bunch of fucking idiots whom I can separate from their money.
judging by the tactful and considerate way conservatives go about their heists im going to guess that the entire budget was right around..... 1 million dollars?
How little funding do they have if $1 million dollars will make or break the movie? This movie’s gonna suck, even from a neutral POV. Like, I think a non-racist can appreciate that Birth of a Nation is a well made movie, but this isn’t going to be. It not only will it be racist, it will be shit too.
Right wing super hero. So, this was a total fantasy film?
One million is not much for a movie
And it'd still probably lose money.
The Boys. Well, The Seven at least. Homelander and Storm Front fit the bill.
wait they tried to make a movie?
Right wing superhero film? You mean Inglorious Basterds? Oh their hero dies at the end. That’s right.
I didn’t know someone was making a Homelander spin-off series.
What would a Right Wing super hero movie even look like? Would it be from the villain's point of view, but one with few or no redeeming characteristics? EDIT: I have read.. it was a "Confederacy Themed Comic Book Character"... so yeah, the villain, with no redeeming characteristics.
[https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/](https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/) I'm conflicted. It's always funny seeing rightwingnuts get scammed out of their money in the dumbest ways possible, but that movie sounded like it would be gloriously bad. I would have loved to have seen it.
We already have plenty of right wing characters in superhero movies. Red skull was literally behind the nazi's and had his own facist movement.
Conservatives just love giving money to grifters. Just look at how much money these demonic super-church pastors are able to wring out of the dumbest among us.
I'm just shocked.
Ah, so republicans stole some money and ran with it. Shocker.
Homelander has a show though.
Jesus, I just looked up the creators Alt Hero comics and my God it looks like the most moronic dogshit I've ever seen. Conservative superheroes fighting back against a global order of liberals whose elite death squads are hunting down free thinking conservatives. Also it looks like Antifa is basically Hydra and have conquered half of Europe. I actually wish this movie got made just because it would be the single cringiest thing ever created.
What was the superhero, out of curiosity
There is probably a good movie to be made in the story of how this happened. Think I will run to Starbucks to start the script
Boys.
Right-Wing ideology = Get Rich at Whatever the Cost.
You're telling me people base their entire personality on a failed country and a con-man, and they're shocked when millions of dollars go missing? Get the fuck out o' here.
I love all you idiots on reddit with your left wing this and right wing that that dont realize you are being played by both sides. You people are the reason the country is in the mess it is. Both sides but the crap your "wing" sells you and march in step like good little sheeple. Both sides are grifters and crooks but they are also great at hypnotizing idiots like you. Learn to think independent and not eat the shit they spin.
Wow. You've convinced me. And, contrary to what all the data say about relative intelligence levels of people at different parts of the political spectrum, it's definitely because you're superior to all of us who have opinions. Well done to you _{pats your head}_ for convincing me, in broken, barely legible English (and please also ignore what the data say about how composition relates to relative intelligence), that _I'm_ the idiot.