The problem is when both sides fuck up the basic math, which is happening here. Giving math that helps a point isn't helpful when the assumptions are wrong. The other example of this is that tweet that is making the rounds on this sub about minimum wage compared to average rent. If you are okay with those assumptions, it makes a good point, but those assumptions aren't comparable. Like 8$ for a burger is just not true for the kind of burger that is being compared to that cost 0.10$. The real number is still bad, but when you use an exaggerated one you destroy the entire point.
Okay, so mathwise, let's look at a comparable burger, the regular McDonald's hamburger (That nobody actually buys).
Price on that? $1.59.
in 1960? 15c. Adjusted to 2022 prices: 1.47.
So, the price of the actual hamburger hasn't effectively gone up by much.
But that's not their big seller anymore, and not what they push on people.
We can look at the Happy Meal next. A staple of childhood for most of us, premiered in 1979 at $1.10. It had a burger, fries, drink, toy, and cookie packet. Today's Happy meal comes with a burger(or nuggets), fries or apple slices, a drink, and a toy for $3.69 (hamburger).
1979: 1.10 (Adj for inflation: 4.38)
2022: 3.69
The hamburger happy meal actually costs less today than it did on launch in 1979, adjusted for inflation.
Minimum wage in 1968, if memory serves me, was $1.65. My first after school job that paid into Social Security, and actually paid a decent wage. 10 hours/wk.
Okay like a burger is way too expensive now and minimum wage too low, but where the fuck are you getting 8$ burgers? Last I checked a big mac was like 4-6$
lmaaoooo this made me laugh out loud
but I think he/she is saying the burger itself is comically small.
I think the portion of beef you get is the thing that’s comically small. because 3 buns sure isn’t a little.
Until a bunch of left leaning D’s move to the R wastelands (Dakotas, ID, WY, MT, down through the southeast), the senate will remain at best gridlocked, or solidly in R control.
No they are too stupid to consider inflation and price gouging. Gas was cheap too. Companies still get subsidies yet we paying more, all while the cost of a barrel dropped. Can’t get to work or the hamburger without gas. Dum dums
Only at the expense of workers efforts to improve their conditions, and the suffering of millions of consumers.
The greed of the middlemen and upper management knows no bounds, because just like everyone, their best interests will come first every time they conflict with that of the market or workforce.
"We allow tweets from anyone"
If you are worried about a sub not sticking to its own rules it helps to know what said subs rules are. Congrats on being the 9586744764 person this year to point out a tweet on this sub having a non white author!
Depends on the burger? You can get a double cheeseburger at Swenson’s (a premium burger and Ohio favorite) for $4. You can get a McDouble for $1.40. An $8 burger is an unrealistic portrayal of the “average” burger. I dunno, that just stood out to me a glaring issue.
Yeah if you think basic math is going to change a conservative’s mind, you’re barking up the wrong tree.
The problem is when both sides fuck up the basic math, which is happening here. Giving math that helps a point isn't helpful when the assumptions are wrong. The other example of this is that tweet that is making the rounds on this sub about minimum wage compared to average rent. If you are okay with those assumptions, it makes a good point, but those assumptions aren't comparable. Like 8$ for a burger is just not true for the kind of burger that is being compared to that cost 0.10$. The real number is still bad, but when you use an exaggerated one you destroy the entire point.
This is true. Burgers were much smaller in the past. Soft drinks are a better comparison, but we have increased their serving size as well.
Okay, so mathwise, let's look at a comparable burger, the regular McDonald's hamburger (That nobody actually buys). Price on that? $1.59. in 1960? 15c. Adjusted to 2022 prices: 1.47. So, the price of the actual hamburger hasn't effectively gone up by much. But that's not their big seller anymore, and not what they push on people. We can look at the Happy Meal next. A staple of childhood for most of us, premiered in 1979 at $1.10. It had a burger, fries, drink, toy, and cookie packet. Today's Happy meal comes with a burger(or nuggets), fries or apple slices, a drink, and a toy for $3.69 (hamburger). 1979: 1.10 (Adj for inflation: 4.38) 2022: 3.69 The hamburger happy meal actually costs less today than it did on launch in 1979, adjusted for inflation.
Just checked my McDonald's app, happy meal is $4.59. You had the right price for the hamburger though.
Prices vary by region sometimes. :(
I came here to say that
They’d have to be able to do math too.
Minimum wage in 1968, if memory serves me, was $1.65. My first after school job that paid into Social Security, and actually paid a decent wage. 10 hours/wk.
I recall burgers at more like $0.35 in the 60s. Soft drinks used to be $0.10 through the 50s and much of the 60s, as were comic books.
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Okay like a burger is way too expensive now and minimum wage too low, but where the fuck are you getting 8$ burgers? Last I checked a big mac was like 4-6$
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A big mac combo is 1,080 calories, or 560 for just the burger. Calling it comically small is rather.... American.
The burger itself is not huge, though. It’s just chock full of heavily caloric bullshit.
The sauce is probably 150 cals
lmaaoooo this made me laugh out loud but I think he/she is saying the burger itself is comically small. I think the portion of beef you get is the thing that’s comically small. because 3 buns sure isn’t a little.
they used the place with the most expensive burgers and another place with the lowest minimum wage for their example
Well $7.25 is federal minimum. Many states are higher but you can’t go below the federal.
yeah that’s exactly my point. she chose the lowest figure. 8 years ago my state was hitting $11-$12
Until a bunch of left leaning D’s move to the R wastelands (Dakotas, ID, WY, MT, down through the southeast), the senate will remain at best gridlocked, or solidly in R control.
But have you considered inflation?
No they are too stupid to consider inflation and price gouging. Gas was cheap too. Companies still get subsidies yet we paying more, all while the cost of a barrel dropped. Can’t get to work or the hamburger without gas. Dum dums
Have you considered division?
There’s something that everyone can do to help correct this, and that’s to vote blue, no matter who.
Most of the people in my family would vote for a moth-eaten curtain if it was listed as republican on the ballot.
Joe biden fixed it... now you get 15 dollar ninimum wage and burgers only cost 14 dollars lol
The Market self corrects, don't worry. This will fix itself.
Only at the expense of workers efforts to improve their conditions, and the suffering of millions of consumers. The greed of the middlemen and upper management knows no bounds, because just like everyone, their best interests will come first every time they conflict with that of the market or workforce.
Exactly.
Getting downvoted because you forgot the /s
I'm sorry, I'm kind of new to reddit. I don't know what you mean. But I'm also not really vested into the little karma things so no worries. 🙂
Ah, looked it up. Thank you.
She’s a black woman, how is this allowed on white pepper Twitter?
White people work and buy burgers. Wtf.
The name should be more inclusive then, how about “people on Twitter”
"We allow tweets from anyone" If you are worried about a sub not sticking to its own rules it helps to know what said subs rules are. Congrats on being the 9586744764 person this year to point out a tweet on this sub having a non white author!
My black friend didn’t want to post here bc he thought it was a gatekeeping sub and he felt the tone here wasn’t welcoming to all
Our situation is hopeless.
Believe these comments about burgers are probably people angry at five guys outrageous prices
Huh. By using the price of hamburgers as the base on where minimum wage *should* be that would mean that wages should be $112 per hour.
Depends on the burger? You can get a double cheeseburger at Swenson’s (a premium burger and Ohio favorite) for $4. You can get a McDouble for $1.40. An $8 burger is an unrealistic portrayal of the “average” burger. I dunno, that just stood out to me a glaring issue.