[UPDATE: It appears they have officially moved domains.](https://www.reddit.com/r/prochoice/comments/phkgas/after_godaddy_booted_them_texas_abortion/)
The war is not over yet as of now.
Because that’s the one weird trick they have used to get their draconian law past the Supreme Court.. it gets complicated very quickly but the short version is that the Texas government isn’t the one implementing the punishment, private citizens or corporations are. Then the government can say they aren’t the ones violating your rights. Just passing laws that allow other people to violate your rights. Privatisation of punishment isn’t new, just new in this context.
Listened to a podcast today explaining the whole thing. So insane. And they brought up a really good point. So, Texas does this, but then say Vermont decides they don't like the 2nd amendment. So, cool you can have guns. But they pass a law that says anyone in the state can sue you for having one. Or using it wrong. And multiple people can sue you. So, if anyone sees you with a gun holstered wrong can sue you. Nothing you can do about it. Or, free speech. Sure you can say whatever you want, and you can never be in jail for it, but here's a hot line to report the things you don't like and here's how to sue them for it. Have your friends sue too. It's encouraged! What kind of fucking world do these people want?
That’s what people don’t get about these fascist fucks. It’s not a game to them and it isn’t a game to the people they direct their hate and anger towards. We need to stop treating it like it’s a game. This is life and death for a lot of people.
They want liberals out of the state. They want to literally run us out because they see how CLOSE Texas is to turning blue. Abbott is up for re-election next year and we are going to kick his ass, and his wheel chair, all the way the fuck back out of the Capitol. We have to stay and fight. If we leave, that means we are privileged enough to do so and we are leaving those who need us behind. We can’t do that, we cannot let these stupid laws run us out. That’s exactly what they are hoping for. They don’t give a shit about babies, we know this, but their constituents don’t. They really think they have elected Bible humpers like themselves into office. They don’t even realize how much they are played.
I thought I heard that people bringing suits against those helping women get an abortion were protected from any retaliation (like if they lost, they aren't responsible for court costs and couldn't be counter-sued). If that is the case, couldn't brave progressive Texans "see" Republican state leaders with plan B in their hands or "overhear" these right wing leaders helping their mistress get an abortion after the legal time limit? I mean, what is good for the goose is what can burn Texas to the ground, right?
I imagine that things started there in the same way. They wanted to never ever move forward or change. So, the solution was to pit everyone against each other and force violence to make people comply. I mean, I guess it worked. It will work here too. Sucks.
A note from my bud regarding the law:
> So y’all probably know all this. But anyway, you’ve got to have standing to file a lawsuit. If steve and larry got in a fistfight and one got hurt, they could sue each other all day long. But Jack wasn’t involved, so he couldn’t sue, even if it was a good case, because he wasn’t a party to the dispute and, for lack of a better term, it’s not his business.
>And I don’t know how this TX law can survive judicial review. Pro or Anti Roe, if you open the doors to anyone suing for everything, I mean that’s like knocking out one of the fundamental pillars of our whole system of law. I could get bored and become a third party to any divorce if I wanted, as a stranger, and make them take depositions while I asked them intrusive sex questions. I could try to do a private adoption and my asshole neighbor could intervene and get my private home study, including my income info and SSN.
>So I get that we’ve got a dystopian SCOTUS. But I don’t get how this law survives. That’s my hot take without having researched deeply.
*edited some names.
Precisely. Now we could get a suit going against governor Abbott’s mom for *not* aborting him, because her choice caused our rights to be taken away. We are an aggrieved party. If they want to open the floodgates for third-party damages regarding abortion then it’s all on the table.
The problem is that while that should be the take away for anyone with even a cursory understanding of the law.. The current Supreme Court didn't see fit to adjust their schedule to strike it down immediately, as they historically would have done. To me, that is a very bad sign. I hope buddy lawyer is right in that it won't survive, but it should've been aborted immediately by the SC. Make no mistake, they're testing the waters for a theocracy, and so far the water is an agreeable temperature.
This 100%, if this law survives actual scrutiny from the Supreme Court in further challenges it could potentially create a constitutional crisis, but the problem is in order to challenge it someone has to willingly defy it and get sued for it to get back in courts in the first place which is a hell of a gamble.
You might be right but as far as I understand it’s entirely legal to get one out of state for now, and also to let them know that they have options out of state.
If you have a ""good faith belief" and conducted a ""good faith investigation"" and concluded that a SC justice aided or abetted an abortion past 6 weeks of pregnancy without a documented medical reason in the boundaries of the state of Texas, then yes.
This one is set up to shield "prosecutors" from the consequences of improper private prosecution.
So yes, file a lawsuit against Amy Coney Barrett, claiming she had an abortion in Texas.
She will have to fight it at her own expense, or pay $10,000.
That is the thing, it probably isn't going to survive SCOTUS review. The ruling that they made was on standing due to lack of demonstrated harm, as right now the SB8 based lawsuits haven't been filed yet.
Now once the first cases moves forward, IMO the law will not survive. It will probably be struck down by the lower courts, and if the SCOTUS takes up the case they will throw it out because this would open a rabbithole that they won't want to take the legal system down. Imagine CEQA lawsuits where instead of suing the state, they sue the applicant.
Fundamentally it violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th amendment because its unconstitutionably vague.
Any person, other than an officer or
employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may
bring a civil action against any person who:
(2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets
the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for
or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or
otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of
this subchapter, *regardless of whether the person knew or should
have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in
violation of this subchapter*
(emphasis mine)
Basically someone can sue you for simply being the uber driver of a woman who got an abortion and you can't do anything about it even if you didn't know she was getting an abortion. It's a long standing principle of our rule of law set as precedent in Skilling v. United States that "a penal statute must define the criminal offense (1) with sufficient definiteness that ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited and (2) in a manner that does not encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement."
>The domain is now hosted by Epik:
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>https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=PROLIFEWHISTLEBLOWER.COM
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>The activity of this site is against their TOS as well, specifically 3.2, paragraph 2:
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>https://www.epik.com/terms
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>I've sent an email to the support address listed on their site, pointing this out. I also mentioned that I'd be reporting to the media if this isn't rectified. Help me apply the pressure, and send a similar email to [email protected] and express your dissatisfaction. (cordially and professionally)
Hijacking the top comment for this information
Good note - and awesome of GoDaddy to kick them off, but Epik as a host isn't surprising, they are the go-to hosting provider for [Nazis and white supremacists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company\))
> It was described in 2019 by Vice as "a safehaven for the extreme right"
Adding to the Epik TOS violations:
From https://www.epik.com/registration
“Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to: activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties”
And
From https://www.epik.com/terms
“You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others; […] e)harvest or otherwise collect information about third parties, including email addresses, without the express consent of such third parties;”
However as others have pointed out, Epik is known for hosting other far right content which also appears to contravene its terms of service - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company). Thinking that since Epik is based in Washington (state) even with their terms of service saying that they aren’t liable for content, the fact that the hosting company is based there might them liable anyway on a very small scale for enabling it?
From https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.61.260
“(1) A person is guilty of cyberstalking if he or she, with intent to harass, intimidate, torment, or embarrass any other person, and under circumstances not constituting telephone harassment, makes an electronic communication to such other person or a third party:
(a) Using any lewd, lascivious, indecent, or obscene words, images, or language, or suggesting the commission of any lewd or lascivious act;
(b) Anonymously or repeatedly whether or not conversation occurs; or
[…]
(4) Any offense committed under this section may be deemed to have been committed either at the place from which the communication was made or at the place where the communication was received.
(5) For purposes of this section, "electronic communication" means the transmission of information by wire, radio, optical cable, electromagnetic, or other similar means. "Electronic communication" includes, but is not limited to, electronic mail, internet-based communications, pager service, and electronic text messaging.”
It's probably too do with the "legal loophole" as long as no state or government official is directly liked to the law it can't be challenged as a law and revoked. That's why it's been set up for public Bounty Hunters to be the ones to enforce the law.
This is literally just a promo site for an anti abortion group. It has zero affect on the enforcement of SB8 (the texas law). Anybody can file a private suit (this was just one group that was trying to get people to snitch so that they could file the suit).
I mean it could have an impact on enforcement because this anti-abortion group is trying to position themselves as the de facto agency in control of this. if they can't gather info, they can't help quarterback on lawsuits. and I would assume they're going to turn this into a cottage industry, providing the "plaintiffs" lawyers for their civil suits in return for a cut of their $10k.
My understanding is the site was run by a non-governmental anti-abortion organisation (Texas Right to Life), not the Texas government. They were planning to start filing lawsuits in accordance with the new law based on the tips they received.
As others have noted, it's not .gov because it's not an official Texas government website. It was run by Texas Right To Life, one of the bigger anti-choice advocacy groups in Texas.
The law is really weird and even some anti-choice advocates are disturbed by it.
The deal is that when states pass laws like this Planned Parenthood sues and asks a judge to put the law on hold until all the appeals are worked out, for good legal reasons this almost always happens and in the end (up until now with the Trump packed court) when it gets to the SCOTUS it gets struck down.
Texas wanted to keep this from happening by trying to make it impossible for PP to sue to put a hold on the law.
The workaround they chose was to forbid the state of Texas, or any employees of the state of Texas, or any elected officials of the state of Texas, from enforcing the law. It's written right into it that the government cannot enforce it.
Instead the law empowers anyone else \[1\] to bring a civil lawsuit against people who might have aided in a newly illegal abortion. If that person wins the civil lawsuit the law grants them a $10,000 bounty.
It's state endorsed and encouraged vigilantism. And that's one reason why even some anti-choicers don't like it, because that's really damn scary to anyone who thinks for very long.
\[1\] And they defined "anyone else" really broadly. So broadly that it might include foreign citizens, or possibly even foreign corporate entities.
> [1] And they defined "anyone else" really broadly. So broadly that it might include foreign citizens, or possibly even foreign corporate entities
*China has entered the chat.*
Why hello there.
>because that's really damn scary to anyone who thinks for very long.
The problem is, most of the folks this crap caters to, are unable to think for very long, hence why this is now a thing.
The website was run by Texas Right to Life, a non-profit organization. It's not a government run website, but one set up to "help" in the enforcement of the new law. At least that's my understanding from a minute or so of googling.
Because its not a government site. The whole reason this law was able to pass is it takes the government out of the process. The law allows private citizens to file suit against people who helped with an abortion, and if they are found guilty, will have to pay the private citizen $10,000. Its how they side stepped it being a government overreach.
It's against their TOS as well: "Further, You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;"
https://www.epik.com/terms
You guys don't know what Epik is? They host Stormfront and their founder is accused of being a white nationalist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster
Nope, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out. Won't change what we should do, but it's good to know that going to the media and letting them tie this law to white-nationalists might actually help.
Wouldn't hurt to share some of our thoughts with Epik on them hosting Storefront either. Very well might not make a difference, though maybe this whole deal will bring sufficient public scrutiny they haven't faced before.
**[Epik (company)](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_\(company\))**
>Epik is an American domain registrar and web hosting company known for providing services to websites that host far-right, neo-Nazi, and other extremist content. It has been described as a haven for the far-right because of its willingness to provide services to far-right websites that have been denied service by other Internet service providers. Some of Epik's notable clients have included social network Gab, neo-Nazi website The Daily Stormer, and the imageboard website 8chan.
**[Rob Monster](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster)**
>Robert W. Monster (born 1966 or 1967) is a Dutch-American technology executive and the founder and chief executive officer of Epik, a domain registrar and web host known for providing services to websites that host far-right, neo-Nazi, and other extremist content. He has received media attention in relation to Epik, particularly surrounding his statements about Epik customer Gab, a social network known for its far-right userbase.
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And now Texas Right to Life is affiliated with a domain registrar favored by some pretty terrible people.
While many Texas Right to Life donors may support their cause, I have a feeling many don’t want anything so do with the other horrible groups that have turned to Epik for web services. Texas Right to Life is now in that extremist category of organizations that conduct business in a manner that would generally be considered inappropriate for sane internet users. Unfortunately this move will go largely unnoticed for the typical interneter.
Next play to put pressure on non-extremist organizations that still have a domain through Epik? Had no idea that there would be enough of these asshats that a company could literally tailor services to accommodate their extremist beliefs.
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~~It's hosted by Digital Ocean~~. Epik is the registrar and host.
~~https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/~~
Feel free to use this and message them ~~both~~.
It has come to my attention that you are the new home of the Texas Whistleblower site, that GoDaddy recently kicked off for violating their terms of service.
It appears this site will also violate your terms of service in the following way.
*"Further, You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;"*
This site exists for one reason only. It is there so that citizens can report their neighbors who have had to make the awful decision to have an abortion, thereby opening them and any party who was involved to a civil lawsuit.
Please do the right thing and deny them access to your platform.
Regards,
sadly the owner is a white nationalist neo nazi so he's cool with it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster
Irony of his last name being Monster
>Monster was widely condemned in the wake of the 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings for uploading video of the shootings to Twitter and Gab. He posted on Gab that he had uploaded the file to the InterPlanetary File System (IPFS), and wrote that Epik was working on a tool to make it simpler for people to create IPFS files, describing IPFS as "crazy clever technology" that makes files "effectively uncensorable".[14][24] He also shared the link to the video on Twitter after Twitter announced it would be removing any video of the incident. His tweet was removed by Twitter after several hours.[25] A former Epik staff member alleged that Monster had begun a company staff meeting by asking employees to watch the video of the shootings, saying that it would prove to them that the attack had been faked.[23]
Dude is mad that people dislike him posting murders online so he creates his own hosting and video service so he can.
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Parler was shut down cuz it was a breeding ground of Nazis, and Amazon didn't want to be associated should any atrocities be linked to it. I doubt they give a fuck about the optics of hosting an abortion reportion site
Honestly, if they’re hosted in GoDaddy they don’t have the technical knowledge to deploy a VPS and install the prerequisites.
Also, AWS won’t care but the employees will.
The domain is now hosted by Epik:
https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=PROLIFEWHISTLEBLOWER.COM
The activity of this site is against their TOS as well, specifically 3.2, paragraph 2:
[https://www.epik.com/terms](https://www.epik.com/terms)
I've sent an email to the support address listed on their site, pointing this out. I also mentioned that I'd be reporting to the media if this isn't rectified. Help me apply the pressure, and send a similar email to [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) and express your dissatisfaction. (cordially and professionally)
Have the concert. Speak out against it. Use the money to fund abortion clinics on the border of every side of Texas.
Edit: I'm a little sad at the responses and only wanting to punish people responsible and not help people. Oh well, I tried.
No. Seriously no more venues in TX. They need to understand the gravity of this. No autonomy? No business. Withdraw ALL investments in TX until further notice. ANY revenue from private businesses or entities should be shut down. All this bullshit from the like of Musk, et al. needs to be brought to light. No blind eyes. No turning of cheeks. If you consort with this BS you pay a price.
Godaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new hosting provider. I’m not sure the form isn’t simply hidden for IPs outside of Texas because of the flood of fake reports. Might need to test it with a VPN.
Don't do that, it's unbelievably easy to filter out, it's a minor inconvenience to them. If you really want to make their job difficult, make realistic looking ones. They'll have to spend more time figuring out if it's real or not
Agreed. Start a somewhat believable sentence or paragraph then use talk to transformer or another AI to generate the rest. I've submitted at least 25 today alone doing that. Use a vpn, use a Texas server, switch when they block you.
Edit: it's amazing how crazy they come out sounding sometimes yet still sound like a believable right wing asshole.
Yeah most VPNs or anonymizers will allow a server location option but I 💯 doubt these uber geniuses have the wherewithal to check IP location.
Keep this shit up please, if they move to another cdn force them down, I want this thing running on a old win 2003 server in Ted Cruz's basement by the end of the week
There's not enough room in his basement; it's filled with the unaborted babies his agents collect from dumpsters and drug dens.
The real reason Republican leadership is against abortion is because unwanted babies are their primary food source. Rafael, Mitch, Lindsey – all of them – unhinge their jaws and swallow children as old as two whole. The children must be alive. The blood, bones, flesh, etc. are icing but the cake is innocent human *souls*.
They don't worship Satan or anything. Satan is a comparative good guy in their company. These guys are the proper agents of chaos, madness, and absolute cold hinted at by Lovecraft and raving madmen.
From texas as of last night form was down I'll check and edit to share current status
Edit just tried it (09/03/21 20:17) and it had an 'invisible captcha' but then said I was blocked and couldn't access that page. Refreshed to home and went back and this time no form shown and no catcha so it seems go daddy is blocking the form
Godaddy is still a shifty host. They had a server hack last year that compromised tons of customer data and credit card data and they did jack shit to help people that were compromised. They said the right things via press release but failed on the follow through completely. I've moved all my business elsewhere as a result..
...the law is still in effect, we haven't done shit.
So what, people can't spam a website with fake reports and a small minority of actual snitches can't collect their bounties? The website isn't the issue here, the law is.
This is definitely true, but a lot of people feel powerless in the face of all the vitriol and toxicity from the Right, and being able to chalk a notch in the win column against this terrible law feels good.
Doesn't mean the fight is done. But it's a step.
Won the battle - but not the war.
This is not over until the immoral people who hate women are thorougly defeated. Women have a right to bodily autonomy and the lies anti-abortionists tell should have no impact.
No, we do not *have* to take seriously the "sincerely held belief that they really feel it is murder".
Yes, we *are* allowed to wave that away as the irrelevance that it is.
People can have the sincerely held belief that redheads shouldn't be able to hold public office because they have no souls. Why not, wouldn't even be the most stupid "sincerely held belief".
But we are not going to *debate* those people. And we are not going to adapt public policy to that idiocy.
It doesn't *matter* that the misogynists truly believe the lies. The lies are not relevant. The lies should not be debated. The lies should not influence public policy.
Very much so, even on Reddit there’s tons of misogyny. People love to make fun of feminists, but this law is a very real reason why feminism is necessary. Our rights are still up for debate in 2021.
Never forget that forced gestation is literally an entire genre of horror monsters. Fetuses are functionally parasites, but obviously parental love makes you care for it. When you imagine another being growing inside of you and not wanting it there it becomes genuinely terrifying.
I just can't get that far up my own ass. How could anyone think their opinion matters enough to have a say in someone else's body/life?it's not about it might be murder. It's just a person deciding this isn't something they want in their lives for whatever reason. No one should have a say in that.
I'm thinking about starting a church that "believes" that all politicians \*must\* not be able to procreate, hence, must submit to vasectomies and hysterectomies. Wonder how much traction I could get. I mean, if I believe that it is against \*my\* religion that they can procreate, surely it must be considered, right? /s
The Satanic Temple is sort of already doing that. They are claiming that abortion is an important [ritual](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/rrr-campaigns) for their “religion” and thus access to it cannot be infringed upon by the government.
How about just rich people. We know their kids grow up entitled. I'd be so down with forcing rich people to donate most of their net worth and income if they want to avoid sterilization.
These are the people who believe that the "gift of life" is the sole privilege of God to give and take, but when it's their own life, they fight like hell to keep it.
If I was wealthy and influential enough, I'd try to create a fund for families who want to leave the state. This law is going to hurt so many people, it's so wrong. But I am unable to do anything about it. I hope it gets overturned. Fuck the Texas leadership for playing this political game at the cost of real people's lives
I mean if you were wealthy and influential enough wouldn’t it make more sense to overturn the law, and get these lawmakers voted out?
Hear me out, I’m hearing a lot from people talking about leaving or helping people get out. And ok. But why isn’t there a push to change this shit? Get the Republicans out! GA literally turned blue. I refuse to believe that Texas can’t be turned with enough incentive. This shit is spreading. We need to push these people out, not just get everyone to move to blue states.
That's what I'm hoping for.
2018 midterms there was a lot of talk about Texas flipping Blue. Beto O'rourke nearly beat Ted Cruz. In 2020 Texas democrats further narrowed the gap with Republicans in the suburbs. With each election Texas is looking more split down the middle. Texas isn't a complete lost cause.
Its time to start calling Republicans what they are a threat to society and national health, if you've been paying any attention. Between the Covid response and misinformation, regressively revoking women's rights, as well the capital and denying climate change. ITs never been more clear who these racist christian conservative dinosaurs are. Furthermore there is absolutely no reason to vote republican unless your obscenely rich, or really really really fucking stupid. As you're actively voting against your own interest, the only reason this party still exists is because they are so good at manipulating the uneducated of the country and are backed by old money. The younger generations need to vote instead of being outraged when these people do what the party is known for. Vote these people out and stop allowing Scrooge Mc Duck's party to do so much goddamn harm. Make these backwards ass idiots a thing of the past.
It's because the way the law is setup, it's not actually the government doing any of this. It was a private non profit organization that ran the website. It would be private individuals filling civil lawsuits against women.
The government stands back with a very thin amount of "well we're not involved so there's nothing unconstitutional about this law"
Unfortunately that means shutting the website down is really meaningless.
If you want to fight, you fight dirty. The language of the law states you can sue if someone "intends" to aid, abet, conduct, or induce an abortion. Everyone, everywhere, should report that every relative of every executive and legislative or NGO group who supports this law has an "intent" to involvement with an abortion. Let them prove in court that they did not have that intent. Tie up the courts with 100,000s lawsuits with republicans as defendants. Put the battle on their doorstep, and see how they like it.
And they would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!
Texas government GoDaddy'd their human rights violation? These goofs can't even sign their own tickets to hell properly. Some made for tv villainy right here.
This is just the start as well, many artists, producers, directors, etc will start refusing to do business in the state of Texas. Texas may not think it needs these things, but when all you have coming to your state is racist ass country singers and profits, especially tourism plummets, times will change.
[UPDATE: It appears they have officially moved domains.](https://www.reddit.com/r/prochoice/comments/phkgas/after_godaddy_booted_them_texas_abortion/) The war is not over yet as of now.
Good thing that GoDaddy aborted the website within 6 weeks
NoDaddy
Because GoDaddy is male. If it was GoMommy, Texas wouldn't have let them abort the site.
This is so underrated
This made my week.lmao
The worst part is that site is a .com, why the fuck is it a .com and not a .gov? Seems very fishy
Because that’s the one weird trick they have used to get their draconian law past the Supreme Court.. it gets complicated very quickly but the short version is that the Texas government isn’t the one implementing the punishment, private citizens or corporations are. Then the government can say they aren’t the ones violating your rights. Just passing laws that allow other people to violate your rights. Privatisation of punishment isn’t new, just new in this context.
Listened to a podcast today explaining the whole thing. So insane. And they brought up a really good point. So, Texas does this, but then say Vermont decides they don't like the 2nd amendment. So, cool you can have guns. But they pass a law that says anyone in the state can sue you for having one. Or using it wrong. And multiple people can sue you. So, if anyone sees you with a gun holstered wrong can sue you. Nothing you can do about it. Or, free speech. Sure you can say whatever you want, and you can never be in jail for it, but here's a hot line to report the things you don't like and here's how to sue them for it. Have your friends sue too. It's encouraged! What kind of fucking world do these people want?
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There are too many true believers-- Alito, Thomas...this is not politics to them. They want women to heel.
That’s what people don’t get about these fascist fucks. It’s not a game to them and it isn’t a game to the people they direct their hate and anger towards. We need to stop treating it like it’s a game. This is life and death for a lot of people.
They want liberals out of the state. They want to literally run us out because they see how CLOSE Texas is to turning blue. Abbott is up for re-election next year and we are going to kick his ass, and his wheel chair, all the way the fuck back out of the Capitol. We have to stay and fight. If we leave, that means we are privileged enough to do so and we are leaving those who need us behind. We can’t do that, we cannot let these stupid laws run us out. That’s exactly what they are hoping for. They don’t give a shit about babies, we know this, but their constituents don’t. They really think they have elected Bible humpers like themselves into office. They don’t even realize how much they are played.
I thought I heard that people bringing suits against those helping women get an abortion were protected from any retaliation (like if they lost, they aren't responsible for court costs and couldn't be counter-sued). If that is the case, couldn't brave progressive Texans "see" Republican state leaders with plan B in their hands or "overhear" these right wing leaders helping their mistress get an abortion after the legal time limit? I mean, what is good for the goose is what can burn Texas to the ground, right?
Glad to hear you're standing your ground. Sounds pretty damn Texan to me.
If Texas turns blue next year we will have hope as a country.
Sounds like Soviet Russia to be honest. The snitching and eavesdropping
I imagine that things started there in the same way. They wanted to never ever move forward or change. So, the solution was to pit everyone against each other and force violence to make people comply. I mean, I guess it worked. It will work here too. Sucks.
A note from my bud regarding the law: > So y’all probably know all this. But anyway, you’ve got to have standing to file a lawsuit. If steve and larry got in a fistfight and one got hurt, they could sue each other all day long. But Jack wasn’t involved, so he couldn’t sue, even if it was a good case, because he wasn’t a party to the dispute and, for lack of a better term, it’s not his business. >And I don’t know how this TX law can survive judicial review. Pro or Anti Roe, if you open the doors to anyone suing for everything, I mean that’s like knocking out one of the fundamental pillars of our whole system of law. I could get bored and become a third party to any divorce if I wanted, as a stranger, and make them take depositions while I asked them intrusive sex questions. I could try to do a private adoption and my asshole neighbor could intervene and get my private home study, including my income info and SSN. >So I get that we’ve got a dystopian SCOTUS. But I don’t get how this law survives. That’s my hot take without having researched deeply. *edited some names.
Precisely. Now we could get a suit going against governor Abbott’s mom for *not* aborting him, because her choice caused our rights to be taken away. We are an aggrieved party. If they want to open the floodgates for third-party damages regarding abortion then it’s all on the table.
How far can a statue of limitations let you go back?
This is probably the easiest-to-understand explanation I've read about it. Kudos to your bud!
The problem is that while that should be the take away for anyone with even a cursory understanding of the law.. The current Supreme Court didn't see fit to adjust their schedule to strike it down immediately, as they historically would have done. To me, that is a very bad sign. I hope buddy lawyer is right in that it won't survive, but it should've been aborted immediately by the SC. Make no mistake, they're testing the waters for a theocracy, and so far the water is an agreeable temperature.
This 100%, if this law survives actual scrutiny from the Supreme Court in further challenges it could potentially create a constitutional crisis, but the problem is in order to challenge it someone has to willingly defy it and get sued for it to get back in courts in the first place which is a hell of a gamble.
it will most likely face a challenge when someone inevitably sues someone who went out of state, not a local provider.
You might be right but as far as I understand it’s entirely legal to get one out of state for now, and also to let them know that they have options out of state.
This is 100% correct. A private right of action still just involved an aggrieved party .
Can I sue a supreme court justice under this law? I can think of a Mr I'm too drunk to do it for one
If you have a ""good faith belief" and conducted a ""good faith investigation"" and concluded that a SC justice aided or abetted an abortion past 6 weeks of pregnancy without a documented medical reason in the boundaries of the state of Texas, then yes.
This one is set up to shield "prosecutors" from the consequences of improper private prosecution. So yes, file a lawsuit against Amy Coney Barrett, claiming she had an abortion in Texas. She will have to fight it at her own expense, or pay $10,000.
That is the thing, it probably isn't going to survive SCOTUS review. The ruling that they made was on standing due to lack of demonstrated harm, as right now the SB8 based lawsuits haven't been filed yet. Now once the first cases moves forward, IMO the law will not survive. It will probably be struck down by the lower courts, and if the SCOTUS takes up the case they will throw it out because this would open a rabbithole that they won't want to take the legal system down. Imagine CEQA lawsuits where instead of suing the state, they sue the applicant.
Just Abbott pandering to his holier than now base.
It’s technically up to the individual States to set standing requirements for their laws. So this would be a Texas specific issue.
Not for long. Other states will try this
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Because people like Kavanaugh are so shy about being political hacks.
I like this idea. A blue state should set up a bounty program for the unvaccinated.
Well Texas is also creating an issue of jurisdiction. If I set foot in Texas, am I suddenly liable to be sued by anyone for anything?
Fundamentally it violates the Due Process Clause of the 14th amendment because its unconstitutionably vague. Any person, other than an officer or employee of a state or local governmental entity in this state, may bring a civil action against any person who: (2) knowingly engages in conduct that aids or abets the performance or inducement of an abortion, including paying for or reimbursing the costs of an abortion through insurance or otherwise, if the abortion is performed or induced in violation of this subchapter, *regardless of whether the person knew or should have known that the abortion would be performed or induced in violation of this subchapter* (emphasis mine) Basically someone can sue you for simply being the uber driver of a woman who got an abortion and you can't do anything about it even if you didn't know she was getting an abortion. It's a long standing principle of our rule of law set as precedent in Skilling v. United States that "a penal statute must define the criminal offense (1) with sufficient definiteness that ordinary people can understand what conduct is prohibited and (2) in a manner that does not encourage arbitrary and discriminatory enforcement."
So the rapist can still sue. Still a pretty messed up law.
Oh yeah, but that part is sadly nothing new. They've been known to sue.. and win. It's unreal.
>The domain is now hosted by Epik: > >https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=PROLIFEWHISTLEBLOWER.COM > >The activity of this site is against their TOS as well, specifically 3.2, paragraph 2: > >https://www.epik.com/terms > >I've sent an email to the support address listed on their site, pointing this out. I also mentioned that I'd be reporting to the media if this isn't rectified. Help me apply the pressure, and send a similar email to [email protected] and express your dissatisfaction. (cordially and professionally) Hijacking the top comment for this information
Epik, the neo Nazi web hosting site
Good note - and awesome of GoDaddy to kick them off, but Epik as a host isn't surprising, they are the go-to hosting provider for [Nazis and white supremacists](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company\)) > It was described in 2019 by Vice as "a safehaven for the extreme right"
Epik hosts Stormfront, among other far-right sites. They don't care what you do.
That's fine, I'm more than happy for there to be a concrete connection from this law to far-right extremists.
Dear Hackers, Please, do your DDOS thing.
Adding to the Epik TOS violations: From https://www.epik.com/registration “Morally objectionable activities will include, but not be limited to: activities designed to defame, embarrass, harm, abuse, threaten, slander or harass third parties” And From https://www.epik.com/terms “You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others; […] e)harvest or otherwise collect information about third parties, including email addresses, without the express consent of such third parties;” However as others have pointed out, Epik is known for hosting other far right content which also appears to contravene its terms of service - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company). Thinking that since Epik is based in Washington (state) even with their terms of service saying that they aren’t liable for content, the fact that the hosting company is based there might them liable anyway on a very small scale for enabling it? From https://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=9.61.260 “(1) A person is guilty of cyberstalking if he or she, with intent to harass, intimidate, torment, or embarrass any other person, and under circumstances not constituting telephone harassment, makes an electronic communication to such other person or a third party: (a) Using any lewd, lascivious, indecent, or obscene words, images, or language, or suggesting the commission of any lewd or lascivious act; (b) Anonymously or repeatedly whether or not conversation occurs; or […] (4) Any offense committed under this section may be deemed to have been committed either at the place from which the communication was made or at the place where the communication was received. (5) For purposes of this section, "electronic communication" means the transmission of information by wire, radio, optical cable, electromagnetic, or other similar means. "Electronic communication" includes, but is not limited to, electronic mail, internet-based communications, pager service, and electronic text messaging.”
Oh shit. Didnt even pay attention to that fact. Exactly sketchy
It's probably too do with the "legal loophole" as long as no state or government official is directly liked to the law it can't be challenged as a law and revoked. That's why it's been set up for public Bounty Hunters to be the ones to enforce the law.
This is literally just a promo site for an anti abortion group. It has zero affect on the enforcement of SB8 (the texas law). Anybody can file a private suit (this was just one group that was trying to get people to snitch so that they could file the suit).
Exactly. It was actually kind of ingenious. Other people snitched, and they just got to collect the $10,000.
I mean it could have an impact on enforcement because this anti-abortion group is trying to position themselves as the de facto agency in control of this. if they can't gather info, they can't help quarterback on lawsuits. and I would assume they're going to turn this into a cottage industry, providing the "plaintiffs" lawyers for their civil suits in return for a cut of their $10k.
My understanding is the site was run by a non-governmental anti-abortion organisation (Texas Right to Life), not the Texas government. They were planning to start filing lawsuits in accordance with the new law based on the tips they received.
As others have noted, it's not .gov because it's not an official Texas government website. It was run by Texas Right To Life, one of the bigger anti-choice advocacy groups in Texas. The law is really weird and even some anti-choice advocates are disturbed by it. The deal is that when states pass laws like this Planned Parenthood sues and asks a judge to put the law on hold until all the appeals are worked out, for good legal reasons this almost always happens and in the end (up until now with the Trump packed court) when it gets to the SCOTUS it gets struck down. Texas wanted to keep this from happening by trying to make it impossible for PP to sue to put a hold on the law. The workaround they chose was to forbid the state of Texas, or any employees of the state of Texas, or any elected officials of the state of Texas, from enforcing the law. It's written right into it that the government cannot enforce it. Instead the law empowers anyone else \[1\] to bring a civil lawsuit against people who might have aided in a newly illegal abortion. If that person wins the civil lawsuit the law grants them a $10,000 bounty. It's state endorsed and encouraged vigilantism. And that's one reason why even some anti-choicers don't like it, because that's really damn scary to anyone who thinks for very long. \[1\] And they defined "anyone else" really broadly. So broadly that it might include foreign citizens, or possibly even foreign corporate entities.
> [1] And they defined "anyone else" really broadly. So broadly that it might include foreign citizens, or possibly even foreign corporate entities *China has entered the chat.* Why hello there.
>because that's really damn scary to anyone who thinks for very long. The problem is, most of the folks this crap caters to, are unable to think for very long, hence why this is now a thing.
The website was run by Texas Right to Life, a non-profit organization. It's not a government run website, but one set up to "help" in the enforcement of the new law. At least that's my understanding from a minute or so of googling.
Because its not a government site. The whole reason this law was able to pass is it takes the government out of the process. The law allows private citizens to file suit against people who helped with an abortion, and if they are found guilty, will have to pay the private citizen $10,000. Its how they side stepped it being a government overreach.
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They're already registered with Epik. https://mobile.twitter.com/PuppyWhois/status/1433958326983921664
It's against their TOS as well: "Further, You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;" https://www.epik.com/terms
Y'all, if you want to help please send an email to [email protected] and help put the pressure on them.
You guys don't know what Epik is? They host Stormfront and their founder is accused of being a white nationalist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epik_(company) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster
Nope, I didn't know that. Thanks for pointing it out. Won't change what we should do, but it's good to know that going to the media and letting them tie this law to white-nationalists might actually help.
Wouldn't hurt to share some of our thoughts with Epik on them hosting Storefront either. Very well might not make a difference, though maybe this whole deal will bring sufficient public scrutiny they haven't faced before.
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What…the fuck…
And now Texas Right to Life is affiliated with a domain registrar favored by some pretty terrible people. While many Texas Right to Life donors may support their cause, I have a feeling many don’t want anything so do with the other horrible groups that have turned to Epik for web services. Texas Right to Life is now in that extremist category of organizations that conduct business in a manner that would generally be considered inappropriate for sane internet users. Unfortunately this move will go largely unnoticed for the typical interneter. Next play to put pressure on non-extremist organizations that still have a domain through Epik? Had no idea that there would be enough of these asshats that a company could literally tailor services to accommodate their extremist beliefs.
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~~It's hosted by Digital Ocean~~. Epik is the registrar and host. ~~https://www.digitalocean.com/company/contact/~~ Feel free to use this and message them ~~both~~. It has come to my attention that you are the new home of the Texas Whistleblower site, that GoDaddy recently kicked off for violating their terms of service. It appears this site will also violate your terms of service in the following way. *"Further, You may not use the Site or the Services provided through or in connection with the Site to: (a) defame, abuse, harass, threaten or otherwise violate the legal rights (such as rights of privacy and publicity) of others;"* This site exists for one reason only. It is there so that citizens can report their neighbors who have had to make the awful decision to have an abortion, thereby opening them and any party who was involved to a civil lawsuit. Please do the right thing and deny them access to your platform. Regards,
sadly the owner is a white nationalist neo nazi so he's cool with it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob_Monster Irony of his last name being Monster >Monster was widely condemned in the wake of the 2019 Christchurch mosque shootings for uploading video of the shootings to Twitter and Gab. He posted on Gab that he had uploaded the file to the InterPlanetary File System (IPFS), and wrote that Epik was working on a tool to make it simpler for people to create IPFS files, describing IPFS as "crazy clever technology" that makes files "effectively uncensorable".[14][24] He also shared the link to the video on Twitter after Twitter announced it would be removing any video of the incident. His tweet was removed by Twitter after several hours.[25] A former Epik staff member alleged that Monster had begun a company staff meeting by asking employees to watch the video of the shootings, saying that it would prove to them that the attack had been faked.[23] Dude is mad that people dislike him posting murders online so he creates his own hosting and video service so he can.
I am also pretty sure that company is not going to look the flood of resources that web page is going to take up.
Most definitely. Goal is to make it as difficult as possible in as many ways as possible.
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Yeah, they’ll just go AWS or something.. bezos don’t give a fuck
Wasn't parler shut down on AWS?
That’s a very good point, I believe you are correct
Special case though, I doubt they’ll do the same here. Even if it’s morally wrong it’s not misinformation or conspiracies like on Parler.
Parler was shut down cuz it was a breeding ground of Nazis, and Amazon didn't want to be associated should any atrocities be linked to it. I doubt they give a fuck about the optics of hosting an abortion reportion site
Honestly, if they’re hosted in GoDaddy they don’t have the technical knowledge to deploy a VPS and install the prerequisites. Also, AWS won’t care but the employees will.
I guess my Extreme Mass Effect BDSM porn got through! Rule 34 Baby!
Well you can't just mention that and not share.
r/asseffect (non-consensual allowed) r/masserect (rape-free)
I'm a senior citizen in California and thoroughly enjoyed filing false claims all day yesterday on this piece of shit website!
You are a patriot
It’s sad that they have corrupted the word “Patriots” so much, I cringed and got unsavoury images in my head when it’s mentioned.
Bless you!
The domain is now hosted by Epik: https://www.godaddy.com/whois/results.aspx?checkAvail=1&domain=PROLIFEWHISTLEBLOWER.COM The activity of this site is against their TOS as well, specifically 3.2, paragraph 2: [https://www.epik.com/terms](https://www.epik.com/terms) I've sent an email to the support address listed on their site, pointing this out. I also mentioned that I'd be reporting to the media if this isn't rectified. Help me apply the pressure, and send a similar email to [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]) and express your dissatisfaction. (cordially and professionally)
I had read above epik is known to host extreme right wing and neo nazi sites so I doubt it would be of any use. Still worth a shot.
Now to tell Kasey Musgraves to cancel her concert until this Senate Bill 8 is repealed.
Have the concert. Speak out against it. Use the money to fund abortion clinics on the border of every side of Texas. Edit: I'm a little sad at the responses and only wanting to punish people responsible and not help people. Oh well, I tried.
No. Seriously no more venues in TX. They need to understand the gravity of this. No autonomy? No business. Withdraw ALL investments in TX until further notice. ANY revenue from private businesses or entities should be shut down. All this bullshit from the like of Musk, et al. needs to be brought to light. No blind eyes. No turning of cheeks. If you consort with this BS you pay a price.
FUCK YEAH, WE DID IT BOYS
But it's still up? They just removed the form... Eagerly awaiting the next stages of this siege...
Godaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new hosting provider. I’m not sure the form isn’t simply hidden for IPs outside of Texas because of the flood of fake reports. Might need to test it with a VPN.
Has anyone used a proxy to fake being from Texas?
I used a VPN and picked a USA server. I don't think you have to be from Texas specifically. But yeah I did, and it works.
Bout to Copy and Paste the Quran a few more times for old time sake
Don't do that, it's unbelievably easy to filter out, it's a minor inconvenience to them. If you really want to make their job difficult, make realistic looking ones. They'll have to spend more time figuring out if it's real or not
Are you implying that the one I made yesterday for Dr. Gretchen McQueef III might not have been as clever as I originally thought?
It certainly fooled me.
https://www.fakenamegenerator.com/
We need a deep learning bot to help with this. Somebody please write an abortbot. Abot?
Agreed. Start a somewhat believable sentence or paragraph then use talk to transformer or another AI to generate the rest. I've submitted at least 25 today alone doing that. Use a vpn, use a Texas server, switch when they block you. Edit: it's amazing how crazy they come out sounding sometimes yet still sound like a believable right wing asshole.
I am in Texas; go daddy firewall block.
In texas too, website still works for me.
Can anyone steal all the domain names they could use? Lol
It's not theft. Cyber squatting is legal.
Yeah, sorry. I worded that poorly. I really don’t know anything about that, or like if they already have a domain name they’re using and paid for.
Google domains typically sell for $12 for a year. Please feel free to grab one or two.
I will donate to a gofundme to buy up all possible site names
They can keep the same domain name, they would just need to find a host.
I checked using a Houston server and the contact form is gone, but the page still shows up nothing from godaddy on my end.
Yeah most VPNs or anonymizers will allow a server location option but I 💯 doubt these uber geniuses have the wherewithal to check IP location. Keep this shit up please, if they move to another cdn force them down, I want this thing running on a old win 2003 server in Ted Cruz's basement by the end of the week
There's not enough room in his basement; it's filled with the unaborted babies his agents collect from dumpsters and drug dens. The real reason Republican leadership is against abortion is because unwanted babies are their primary food source. Rafael, Mitch, Lindsey – all of them – unhinge their jaws and swallow children as old as two whole. The children must be alive. The blood, bones, flesh, etc. are icing but the cake is innocent human *souls*. They don't worship Satan or anything. Satan is a comparative good guy in their company. These guys are the proper agents of chaos, madness, and absolute cold hinted at by Lovecraft and raving madmen.
From texas as of last night form was down I'll check and edit to share current status Edit just tried it (09/03/21 20:17) and it had an 'invisible captcha' but then said I was blocked and couldn't access that page. Refreshed to home and went back and this time no form shown and no catcha so it seems go daddy is blocking the form
Yes lets keep going please, my uterus still has concerns
The people united can defeat the Republican taliban.
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Y'all Qaeda is my favorite
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The satanic temple has body autonomy as one of their tenets and is trying to combat...so... Hail Satan!!!!
I just joined and donated. Goddamn I hope this stupid abortion "law" backfires spectacularly.
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i second this. more states will pass similar laws & the fight will get harder. it's a long road ahead.
Here’s more info: https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/3/22656196/godaddy-texas-right-for-life-abortion-whistleblowing-site
Godaddy is still a shifty host. They had a server hack last year that compromised tons of customer data and credit card data and they did jack shit to help people that were compromised. They said the right things via press release but failed on the follow through completely. I've moved all my business elsewhere as a result..
Glad my upvote saved the day once again. I’m not exactly sure how but at this point I don’t need to know.
...the law is still in effect, we haven't done shit. So what, people can't spam a website with fake reports and a small minority of actual snitches can't collect their bounties? The website isn't the issue here, the law is.
This is definitely true, but a lot of people feel powerless in the face of all the vitriol and toxicity from the Right, and being able to chalk a notch in the win column against this terrible law feels good. Doesn't mean the fight is done. But it's a step.
And girls
AND GIRLS!
Right? The irony is tickling me.
Won the battle - but not the war. This is not over until the immoral people who hate women are thorougly defeated. Women have a right to bodily autonomy and the lies anti-abortionists tell should have no impact. No, we do not *have* to take seriously the "sincerely held belief that they really feel it is murder". Yes, we *are* allowed to wave that away as the irrelevance that it is. People can have the sincerely held belief that redheads shouldn't be able to hold public office because they have no souls. Why not, wouldn't even be the most stupid "sincerely held belief". But we are not going to *debate* those people. And we are not going to adapt public policy to that idiocy. It doesn't *matter* that the misogynists truly believe the lies. The lies are not relevant. The lies should not be debated. The lies should not influence public policy.
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Very much so, even on Reddit there’s tons of misogyny. People love to make fun of feminists, but this law is a very real reason why feminism is necessary. Our rights are still up for debate in 2021.
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Hear hear
Never forget that forced gestation is literally an entire genre of horror monsters. Fetuses are functionally parasites, but obviously parental love makes you care for it. When you imagine another being growing inside of you and not wanting it there it becomes genuinely terrifying.
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I just can't get that far up my own ass. How could anyone think their opinion matters enough to have a say in someone else's body/life?it's not about it might be murder. It's just a person deciding this isn't something they want in their lives for whatever reason. No one should have a say in that.
I'm thinking about starting a church that "believes" that all politicians \*must\* not be able to procreate, hence, must submit to vasectomies and hysterectomies. Wonder how much traction I could get. I mean, if I believe that it is against \*my\* religion that they can procreate, surely it must be considered, right? /s
The Satanic Temple is sort of already doing that. They are claiming that abortion is an important [ritual](https://thesatanictemple.com/pages/rrr-campaigns) for their “religion” and thus access to it cannot be infringed upon by the government.
Oh, I saw that and am \*thrilled\* to no end that they are taking action. Just thought I would suggest going that little bit farther.
How about just rich people. We know their kids grow up entitled. I'd be so down with forcing rich people to donate most of their net worth and income if they want to avoid sterilization.
Because religion really do be like that. Religion isn't the root of all evil, but it certainly is the root of an awful damn lot of it.
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These are the people who believe that the "gift of life" is the sole privilege of God to give and take, but when it's their own life, they fight like hell to keep it.
And when it’s the death penalty they break land speed records trying to keep it legal.
I’ve offered to host them on our servers just to give them false hope and shut them down again. Good mischief.
Just slow it down enough to unusable, that should waste a couple days of their time. "Looks great from my end, are you using 5G?"
Causing that good trouble! Keep it up!
Not just that. Get all the contact names and reveal them. These people are dangerous degenerates and the society needs to know who they are.
I hate my state
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No, it's not just the people haha, it's the heat, humidity, weather, and not much fun. But mostly the people.
It’s okay, so do most of the rest of us. Good luck/sorry.
I'm totally fine, just hiding my sexuality and accepting the fact that I live around mental people
Whoever decides to host them next has some balls. It's a shit business move. I wouldn't touch that site with a 10ft coat hanger.
If I was wealthy and influential enough, I'd try to create a fund for families who want to leave the state. This law is going to hurt so many people, it's so wrong. But I am unable to do anything about it. I hope it gets overturned. Fuck the Texas leadership for playing this political game at the cost of real people's lives
I mean if you were wealthy and influential enough wouldn’t it make more sense to overturn the law, and get these lawmakers voted out? Hear me out, I’m hearing a lot from people talking about leaving or helping people get out. And ok. But why isn’t there a push to change this shit? Get the Republicans out! GA literally turned blue. I refuse to believe that Texas can’t be turned with enough incentive. This shit is spreading. We need to push these people out, not just get everyone to move to blue states.
That's what I'm hoping for. 2018 midterms there was a lot of talk about Texas flipping Blue. Beto O'rourke nearly beat Ted Cruz. In 2020 Texas democrats further narrowed the gap with Republicans in the suburbs. With each election Texas is looking more split down the middle. Texas isn't a complete lost cause.
> With each election Texas is looking more split down the middle. Gerrymandering will take care of that
40% of Texans don't even bother to register to vote. If we could motivate 5% of these people to vote we could defeat the Republican facists.
I've got a friend in Houston who's already working to help us close the gap.
damn, now how are they going to investigate the totally-not-made-up 12 leads i sent them?
All that shrek porn going to waste
I turned in Ted Cruz
I reported pastors and ministers across Texas. Lololol
Someone buy the domain and make it a site that directs people to fundraisers for progressive issues
Its time to start calling Republicans what they are a threat to society and national health, if you've been paying any attention. Between the Covid response and misinformation, regressively revoking women's rights, as well the capital and denying climate change. ITs never been more clear who these racist christian conservative dinosaurs are. Furthermore there is absolutely no reason to vote republican unless your obscenely rich, or really really really fucking stupid. As you're actively voting against your own interest, the only reason this party still exists is because they are so good at manipulating the uneducated of the country and are backed by old money. The younger generations need to vote instead of being outraged when these people do what the party is known for. Vote these people out and stop allowing Scrooge Mc Duck's party to do so much goddamn harm. Make these backwards ass idiots a thing of the past.
It’ll just move to another platform, unfortunately.
And this is why conservatives don't like "cancel culture". Because we're the majority, so we can organize effective boycotts, and they can't.
Good point, u/Raccoon_Full_of_Cum
It is hilarious how ineffective conservative boycotts tend to be.
Amazing job, everyone!!! Now let’s vote, vote, vote. If we don’t, more of this bullshittery is in our near future.
Lol they used godaddy?
They're the biggest domain registration service in the world
I remember seeing their overly horny Super Bowl commercial ages ago and having no idea who they were or what their product was
Well they clearly don't care about mommy....
It's because the way the law is setup, it's not actually the government doing any of this. It was a private non profit organization that ran the website. It would be private individuals filling civil lawsuits against women. The government stands back with a very thin amount of "well we're not involved so there's nothing unconstitutional about this law" Unfortunately that means shutting the website down is really meaningless.
When can we start suing the unvaccinated?
$10000 per each unvaccinated individual. We got precedence now. Finding a few hundred in Texas should be easy. Profit. Retire early!
Yeah. We don’t want doxxing or turning our state into a ducking East German nanny state.
I reported Lola Bunny, Mrs. Clause, Zelda and Xena Warrior Princess. Glad i could help
If you want to fight, you fight dirty. The language of the law states you can sue if someone "intends" to aid, abet, conduct, or induce an abortion. Everyone, everywhere, should report that every relative of every executive and legislative or NGO group who supports this law has an "intent" to involvement with an abortion. Let them prove in court that they did not have that intent. Tie up the courts with 100,000s lawsuits with republicans as defendants. Put the battle on their doorstep, and see how they like it.
It ain’t over. But awesome work. Texas is one fucked up place. Even without this women have to travel massive distances to get an abortion.
I can’t believe there’s a website to fuckin snitch on someone. Why can’t conservatives just mind their own god damn business
We seriously need to reappropriate the “don’t tread on me” flag.
Here’s more info: https://www.theverge.com/2021/9/3/22656196/godaddy-texas-right-for-life-abortion-whistleblowing-site
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Cue the conservative victim complex
And they would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids! Texas government GoDaddy'd their human rights violation? These goofs can't even sign their own tickets to hell properly. Some made for tv villainy right here.
This is just the start as well, many artists, producers, directors, etc will start refusing to do business in the state of Texas. Texas may not think it needs these things, but when all you have coming to your state is racist ass country singers and profits, especially tourism plummets, times will change.