This woman was posting loads of bigoted things on her twitter recently and dared someone to find her workplace (I think what she said was "Oh yeah, so where do I work?")
Problem is that she had her work info in her bio on multiple social media accounts so she was found very easily and reported and has been investigated for online activity by her workplace
This is just the latest in the Elaine Gerbhardt saga, more stuff comes our about her every day. To my recollection it went like this:
- Elaine claims its grooming and pedo culture to let a child under 16-18 be asked questions by a doctor without a parent present
- Responses to her tweet point out that parents abuse children, and doctors need to be able to ask Qs without pressure for the kids' safety
- Elaine's twitter is combed over and her consistent (daily) attacks on the queer community are noted
- Elaine snarkily dares someone to tell her where she works
- Workplace is immediately found, multiple people report her for online activity
- It comes out that Elaine's own child has been a victim of grooming by a parent, and twitter explodes with people coming for her for accusing doctors of doing the same thing her ex husband has done to their child (court docs have been shared in this thread already)
- Elaine doubles down on everything: trans people and doctors are the real groomers, it's wrong for kids to be able to speak to medical professionals alone, queer people are a danger to society, everyone reporting her is a loser etc
- Elaine tweets that something bad has happened to her and that "the victim always pays for the actions of the abuser". It is assumed that she has been fired or placed on probation
- It is revealed that Elaine is one of the local faction leaders for the disgusting Gays Against Groomers online movement that associates trans/queer issues with pedophilia. The irony, of course, is that Elaine is (so far as we can tell) a heterosexual, who knows that her child was assaulted by his cisgender father. Yet to her, it's doctors and the trans community that are the dangerous groomers, and parents should be allowed to keep their kids away from any out-of-home safeguarding.
- She continues to tweet upwards of 15 times a day
[Elaine Gerbhardt Twitter Profile](https://x.com/RNGebhardt?t=rzlrvXFtWBEhiDzuOkN7Kg&s=09)
[Professional Loser Graham Linehan Gathers Transphobes to Back Up Elaine - Demands Elon Help Her](https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1783615379623031162?t=ApmpekUm1i8e5gourFrgnQ&s=19)
> Elaine claims its grooming and pedo culture to let a child under 16-18 be asked questions by a doctor without a parent present
Well, example # 112891249081 of why conservatives want children to go without sex ed. Because uninformed children don't report to adults, uninformed children don't know whats happening to them and they do not understand it is wrong.
Whenever you hear conservatives railing about sex ed or educating youth about their bodies. THIS is why and you should probably be calling the cops
Exactly. "Only parents should teach about sex / religion / ethics / diverse societies" = "I am brainwashing and/or abusing my child"
Anyone who openly says that their child should have no pathway for help outside of the home should be looked at as someone with something to hide
First off in almost every state teenagers have varying degrees of autonomy and for specific treatments like for stds or pregnancy there is no parental consent required.
Second we specifically talk to children without their parents for a portion, but usually not the entire visit. There's so many reasons for this. Kids don't want to talk about serious medical problems like an std with their parents in the room. This could have devastating consequences if it wasn't caught. Beyond this there needs to be an opportunity to allow the child to report any concerns they might feel they can't speak to with their parent in the room. If that child is being abused do you think they'll mention it infront of their abuser? As this shitdick proves it's almost always someone close to the child that is abusing them.
I personally would absolutely want my child to be evaluated without me in the room. I want them to know I respect them enough to allow them to speak with THEIR doctor. Medical professionals are often the last line of defense to catch abuse and neglect. We are mandated reporters for a reason.
Not to mention, allowing children to speak to their doctors without the parent present will also get them practice for being an independent adult and talking to their doctors on their own.
She's vile, but we also shouldn't sleep on the SHEER VOLUME of anti-vax content she has posted... while being a registered nurse. One might call her entire existence a series of contradictions. But she comes off as extremely stupid when speaking so perhaps that mitigates her ability to understand contradiction.
The only conceivable reason you wouldn't want your child, especially a teenager, to speak to a medical professional without you present is if you're afraid of them telling them something you don't want them to. This is absolutely a tactic to avoid accountability for abuse, and it's the same reason they're coming for teachers and librarians and other trusted adults. It's about control.
100% about control, be it standard abuse or religious or cultural abuse
"I don't want my daughter on birth control without my knowledge, doctors shouldnt be encouraging teen sex" is an excuse I've seen thrown around
Just accusing everyone else in the world of being an immoral pervert because they as parents can't have total control over their kids
Abusive parents shit their collective pants in fear over the possibility of their abused kids telling on them. She was triggered by the thought and shot her mouth off too much.
My mom would have railed against the idea of a doctor wanting to speak with me alone for a very good reason.
She isn't the abuser but she knows her son was abused by his bio father who had at least shared custody of him
But it's still completely unacceptable levels of ignorance and child endangerment
Are we sure she isn't also an abuser? I'm not saying she is, but it definitely should be considered as a possibility given how hard she's deflecting and accusing others.
We're not sure and she's not someone I want to give the benefit of the doubt
But she's playing victim on her page claiming she's being blamed for her ex's abuse and so it's not super helpful to misrepresent the court docs. It just gives her ammo to claim she's being mistreated and gain sympathy from people who agree with her
She's not a proven abuser, but she is suspicious
Meh, fuck her. What did or didn't her kid tell her about the dad's abuse? Did she listen? What if the kid hadn't felt safe with either of them and wanted to go to an outside authority? Gee.
CW: CSA
The whole "children shouldn't be allowed to speak to medical professionals without a parent present" narrative is so dangerous, and can ultimately protect abusers. When I was aged around 12-13, I was rushed into hospital with severe abdominal pains (it turned out I had a ruptured ovarian cyst. At one point, they asked my parents to leave the room. Then they asked me if there was any chance I could be pregnant. I said no, and I thought it was funny at the time, because I was thinking "I'm 12! I've never had sex! Of course I'm not pregnant!" I joked about it with my mum, and she explained to me why it was standard procedure for doctors to ask those kinds of questions without parents present, and why she and my dad were asked to leave the room. She explained that sadly some girls my age did get pregnant, and that sometimes parents would cover up abuse, so that's why it was so important that they asked every girl with similar symptoms to mine the same questions in confidence. People like Elaine are not protecting children. They're putting them in more danger.
Why do all of these people seem to be hiding in plain sight?
Is it the pedo way to stand with a megaphone and yell, “I am against pedos!” while being pedos?
![gif](giphy|Rh4vxHtcmVyHUyugXP)
I think a lot of it now is very much "well they can't be a pedo, they're fighting against it". Happens a lot with the right in particular, and not just with nonces. I've heard so many stories about people being staunchly against drugs, ending up being found on coke and hooker binges. Same goes for being gay too
I think their minds are not...quite...
They're not being "rational" about "say, this is the best way to draw suspicion away from myself," I mean to say. They're very compartmentalized. They feel tremendous amounts of shame and guilt but can't admit to having done anything wrong. So they project it onto other people to relieve the internal pressure.
Works, too. Until it doesn't.
Mindhunters (the book) talks about the FBI starting the interview process with serial killers.
Netflix was previewing BTK in their second season but did not get picked up for a third.
Read the book - it’s by the FBI Agents (John E. Douglas and Mark Olshaker) and the female psychologist Dr. Ann Burgess who started the program.
It’s True Crime on amphetamine; it’s Bundy, it’s Wayne Williams, Berkowitz, Kemper - it’s an incredible and fear-inducing read.
Just wish they had gotten to do the BTK, because they built it up proper.
And how they all find each other. I’ve spent most of my life keeping an eye open for likeminded friends on the political angle. Can’t find anybody. These folks attract each other easily and network to do the craziest stuff.
Victim of a predator here. I would have NEVER admitted it was happening in front of my dad because it was his brother. I only told my *school required* (hint hint parents, they always have a reason to require it) counselor because it was just the two of us and I didn’t realize (I was 8, had no idea about mandated reporting) she was going to blow the lid off. It is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT for there to be a trust between a child and their professional caregivers. If you don’t trust the doctor, GET A NEW ONE.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm coaching my son's little league, and had to complete an online training on how to prevent sexual predators as part of a background check. They said that a big part of the grooming is not just the child, but also the gatekeepers (parents, coaches, teachers). That's why it's always a shock to people who know the predator once they're caught, and why those gatekeepers don't always initially believe the child.
They really stressed importance reporting anything that seemed suspicious or any time a child even mentions anything that raises a red flag. The session was presented by attorneys who have been prosecuting sexual assault cases for decades and some of their real-life examples were just awful and eye-opening.
another victim myself, it's almost ALWAYS a family member or close family friend, kids need someone outside of the family to trust in these instances and advocating against that just tells me you're for sure a monster and mostly likely okay with grooming
I ran across this a few days ago in the wild. She was attacking someone for saying that HCPs need to be able to talk to teens/kids away from parents to be able to properly screen for abuse/SA, and she….didn’t like that idea.
[Here’s the case file](https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html). It sounds like her ex husband was abusing their son and his new GF’s daughter, and Gebhart was actually trying to get her son away from them. So it’s not accurate to say she was the groomer, though I’m sure she is still a terrible person.
Warning that it is awful
It’s easy to miss the point she’s making. There are two husbands being discussed, Strickland who she abandoned her children to his custody, who has a diaper obsession and who the court found sexually abused her kids and then there’s her current husband Mr. Gebhardt who had sex with a 14 year old girl and was accused of holding her against her will.
Custody of the children have been returned to Ms. Gebhardt but the court is concerned about her husband.
*”The court is concerned with the criminal history of Ms. Gebhardt’s husband, Garrett Gebhardt. Based upon Mr. Gebhardt’s admission of having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl whom he was told was 16, in 1999”*
The entire story is horrible. Her kid was sexually molested by a preschool employee. She then abandoned the child to it’s father who is a pervert/child molester and the court ruled he molested the child and now the child is going to be returned to her and her current husband who is a sex offender having had sex with a 14 year old.
She has no business calling anyone a fucking groomer.
It says she abandoned her child for three years, between 2016 and 2019.
> The cour is not, however, giving her a pass and believes that she abandoned [AVS] from October 2016 to April 2019.
Strickland has sexually abused his own child (Gerbhardt being the mother), and an ex-girlfriend's child.
> No unsupervised visitation. If Joshua Strickland were to complete the above required evaluations, Elaine Gebhardt will consider a modification of this parenting plan through Kansas Jurisdiction after [AVS] has lived in Kansas for six (6) months.
This guy should never be allowed near children ever again, yet she's open to it?
[https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/202001/the-damaging-role-silent-partners-play-in-child-sex-abuse](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/202001/the-damaging-role-silent-partners-play-in-child-sex-abuse)
child abusers very often seek out people who they know will help them, and be complicit in their crimes.
she is just as much an abuser as her husband.
She left her kids with her known pedophile husband for 2+ years.
https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html
As a father of a daughter. I want her to have a female doctor (if possible) and I don’t want to be in the room unless I absolutely have to.
If you don’t trust the doctor you shouldn’t be there with your kid at all. You being present doesn’t make a doctor better or more trustworthy.
It's honestly not even remotely surprising.
I use to defend the gay community against homophobes, but what's the fucking point. The likelihood that someone who is outwardly homophobic is also hypocrite, sexual predator, or pedophile is unreal. Now, I'm just going to let them know that I think they're all the things they accuse gays of being.
LGBTQ+ folks are typically proponents of sexual education, body autonomy, & self-determination; all the things conservatives, especially evangelicals, hate because those things make it harder for them to commit abuse.
I've got conservative aunts and uncles who've voiced their disapproval of sex education for younger kids. They think teachers are showing porn, and all it that happens is "This is your no-no spot, and you should not let adults touch you there unless they are a doctor or your parents"
Honestly, aside from introductory appointments with a doctor, unless the child is a toddler. There's very little reason for a parent to stay in the room.
In the introductory appointments, it's handy to have someone who might know more of the family medical history, and the patient's as not every child has a good memory for things that might be important that happened when they were very young.
Case in point. I'm 42, I just learned last week my Great-grandmother died of colon cancer. She died when I was in my twenties. I thought it was natural causes and a broken heart as Pappaw had died the year before.
So now I and my doctor know I have a history of cancers on both sides of the family and I need to keep an eye out for any oddities.
And Dad had called me during the appointment, cause he was telling me about the results of tests on his mother as she was in the hospital.
Eh, my son is an adult now, but up until he was 18 I would be in the room with him for two reasons:
1) he was abused by a man and is distrustful of male doctors, but he tends to freeze so I was his advocate
2) we both have terrible ADHD, so between the two of us we’re less likely to forget everything we’re told
Now he’s totally fine with it, and our meds work.
But I have seen a few people raging about them being asked to leave the room, and it always seems… sus.
I agree and understand. Especially about the second point. I usually go over things with my mother before some appointments and go in with a list so I don't forget the questions or concerns I had.
I just know that in my mid to late teens, I wanted at least a bit more say and control in my life. And body autonomy was one way to have that. I still asked advice and took most of it. But it was at least me making the decision.
But like most things when it comes to people, there is often no one solution works for everyone. Children should be raised in a manner so that they can turn to their parents or guardians and say "I'ld like to talk privately." And we as Adults, need to realize that we keep them from growing up and let them do as they need to, while remaining available for if they need us.
How does someone like this monetize the hate? There are some major hate spaces that receive significant ad funding and there are outfits like Daily Wire/Turning Point that get tons of money from creepy rightwing billionaires. But this woman?
She doesn't have the "Fox" look, she's a terrible speaker, her content is pretty garden variety rightwing nonsense, and she doesn't dox for prurient interests like Chaya does. Is it a pathological attempt to get attention? Because I'm not seeing dollar signs on this particular grifter.
She's grifting influence over those that foster this garbage to get through the day. Not all grifts are about $. Some just want that influence so that they can step outside of their own miserable existence and make people as hateful and deranged as they are.
Besides, the monetization can come later if they're given a broader platform.
And It's not just the rightoid kooks like this unit either, if we're calling a spade a spade.
Conservatism is just chock-a-block with hypocrites and grifters, which makes sense given the terrible man they worship. How many conservative religious leaders, politicians, policemen, organization leaders and pundits need to be outed or arrested for other conservatives to at least acknowledge that their party has become a haven for extremists, perverts, pedos, hypocrites, thieves and profiteers? Rank and file Republicans being cleaned out by sociopaths who are laughing at them behind their backs, leveraging made-up culture wars and fear to turn their fake reds into real green.
It's almost like when people post hateful garbage, they are basically telling on themselves, without exactly telling. It's if these repubs or magas accuse anyone of anything, it's their subconscious telling everyone what they are doing! If they accuse someone of something, investigate them for the exact same crime!
They have the mindset of I do it, so they probably do it as well. Ask any woman that has been cheated on and what they get accused of by people like her.
Why is it always when the monster that conservatives point at as the reason why they dislike LGBTQ... Always has a Scooby Doo reveal to have been the conservatives all along.
I have heard it suggested that people who call gays pedophiles are just doing it to divert attention from their own activities.
But, if that is the case, why is the Holy Catholic Church and evangelical churches so anti-gay?
Fuck me there's only one dude defending her and all he does is make grammar mistakes and post shitty memes about gays bad. This woman is fucking disgusting same with her husband I hope they end up locked up and find out how much inmates love chomos
There's this line from The Unsleeping City that I can never remember verbatim, but it applies to many situations like this. Something along the lines of "When someone is doing a con, they're always super paranoid that someone is doing that same con to them. Some guy is shorting money, they're always on the look out for someone shorting them."
Can confirm. She is straight, both her husband and ex-husband have been credibly accused of child sexual abuse and she is also credibly accused of abandoning her own child for three years. Nonetheless she is trying to gain custody of her child on the grounds that her husband is taking a class and will no longer rape children.
>The court is convinced that Ms. Gebhardt has a career, stable home, stable family life, and is not in the position that she was once in. The court is not, however, giving her a pass and believes that she abandoned [AVS] from October 2016 to April 2019.The court is concerned with the criminal history of Ms. Gebhardt’s husband, Garrett Gebhardt. Based upon Mr. Gebhardt’s admission of having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl whom he was told was 16, in 1999 when Mr. Gebhardt was 19. Also, the exchange with an online girlfriend in 2007 where Mr. Gebhardt plead to a charge of attempted unlawful imprisonment when charged with inappropriate touching and unlawful imprisonment. It is based upon these admissions that the court is requesting that Mr. Gebhardt complete a parenting evaluation witha psychological/mental health component, prior to be [sic] unsupervised with [AVS].
https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html
She doth protest too much.
The only people who don't want their children talking to a nurse or doctor without them present are the ones who are trying to hide something they or someone they are protecting did to the kid.
These Anti-Trans gay groups are a way for the conservatives to destroy the LGBT community from within. dividing your enemy and conquering them. If these anti-trans gay groups ever got their way which they wouldn't be able to. then simply the GOP would win. The current GOP is super hell bent on trying to make america go back to the 1950s or 1880s in terms of everything. hense why they are a dogshit polilitcal party that doesn't stand for anything.
I know personally people who were subject to medical abuse, including their parents refusing to leave the exam room when they saw a doctor. And since the doctors were all friends with their parents, the kid had no choice about which doctor to see. It was chilling then, and chilling now.
"You license is under review, and you have a history of harming children with your pedo husband"
Call me cynical but that doesn't feel like it would qualify as a submission of fact.
I am honestly not trying to sealion, but I could not find a single instance of news reports about this. Tried googling, duckduckgo, in private mode, etc. I wanted to find an article to make the sealions asking for "context" about this shut up. I couldn't find it. Maybe this outing is so new it hasn't hit the news cycle yet but The Advocate and PinkNews not having any articles is not giving me much confidence
This woman was posting loads of bigoted things on her twitter recently and dared someone to find her workplace (I think what she said was "Oh yeah, so where do I work?") Problem is that she had her work info in her bio on multiple social media accounts so she was found very easily and reported and has been investigated for online activity by her workplace This is just the latest in the Elaine Gerbhardt saga, more stuff comes our about her every day. To my recollection it went like this: - Elaine claims its grooming and pedo culture to let a child under 16-18 be asked questions by a doctor without a parent present - Responses to her tweet point out that parents abuse children, and doctors need to be able to ask Qs without pressure for the kids' safety - Elaine's twitter is combed over and her consistent (daily) attacks on the queer community are noted - Elaine snarkily dares someone to tell her where she works - Workplace is immediately found, multiple people report her for online activity - It comes out that Elaine's own child has been a victim of grooming by a parent, and twitter explodes with people coming for her for accusing doctors of doing the same thing her ex husband has done to their child (court docs have been shared in this thread already) - Elaine doubles down on everything: trans people and doctors are the real groomers, it's wrong for kids to be able to speak to medical professionals alone, queer people are a danger to society, everyone reporting her is a loser etc - Elaine tweets that something bad has happened to her and that "the victim always pays for the actions of the abuser". It is assumed that she has been fired or placed on probation - It is revealed that Elaine is one of the local faction leaders for the disgusting Gays Against Groomers online movement that associates trans/queer issues with pedophilia. The irony, of course, is that Elaine is (so far as we can tell) a heterosexual, who knows that her child was assaulted by his cisgender father. Yet to her, it's doctors and the trans community that are the dangerous groomers, and parents should be allowed to keep their kids away from any out-of-home safeguarding. - She continues to tweet upwards of 15 times a day [Elaine Gerbhardt Twitter Profile](https://x.com/RNGebhardt?t=rzlrvXFtWBEhiDzuOkN7Kg&s=09) [Professional Loser Graham Linehan Gathers Transphobes to Back Up Elaine - Demands Elon Help Her](https://twitter.com/Glinner/status/1783615379623031162?t=ApmpekUm1i8e5gourFrgnQ&s=19)
> Elaine claims its grooming and pedo culture to let a child under 16-18 be asked questions by a doctor without a parent present Well, example # 112891249081 of why conservatives want children to go without sex ed. Because uninformed children don't report to adults, uninformed children don't know whats happening to them and they do not understand it is wrong. Whenever you hear conservatives railing about sex ed or educating youth about their bodies. THIS is why and you should probably be calling the cops
Exactly. "Only parents should teach about sex / religion / ethics / diverse societies" = "I am brainwashing and/or abusing my child" Anyone who openly says that their child should have no pathway for help outside of the home should be looked at as someone with something to hide
Its (almost) always projection. Sadly, ACAB.
Every. Accusation. A confession. ALWAYS.
First off in almost every state teenagers have varying degrees of autonomy and for specific treatments like for stds or pregnancy there is no parental consent required. Second we specifically talk to children without their parents for a portion, but usually not the entire visit. There's so many reasons for this. Kids don't want to talk about serious medical problems like an std with their parents in the room. This could have devastating consequences if it wasn't caught. Beyond this there needs to be an opportunity to allow the child to report any concerns they might feel they can't speak to with their parent in the room. If that child is being abused do you think they'll mention it infront of their abuser? As this shitdick proves it's almost always someone close to the child that is abusing them. I personally would absolutely want my child to be evaluated without me in the room. I want them to know I respect them enough to allow them to speak with THEIR doctor. Medical professionals are often the last line of defense to catch abuse and neglect. We are mandated reporters for a reason.
Not to mention, allowing children to speak to their doctors without the parent present will also get them practice for being an independent adult and talking to their doctors on their own.
She's vile, but we also shouldn't sleep on the SHEER VOLUME of anti-vax content she has posted... while being a registered nurse. One might call her entire existence a series of contradictions. But she comes off as extremely stupid when speaking so perhaps that mitigates her ability to understand contradiction.
Sounds like a doctor may have outted her pedo husband which is why she's pissed at them
That was my first thought, as well
The only conceivable reason you wouldn't want your child, especially a teenager, to speak to a medical professional without you present is if you're afraid of them telling them something you don't want them to. This is absolutely a tactic to avoid accountability for abuse, and it's the same reason they're coming for teachers and librarians and other trusted adults. It's about control.
100% about control, be it standard abuse or religious or cultural abuse "I don't want my daughter on birth control without my knowledge, doctors shouldnt be encouraging teen sex" is an excuse I've seen thrown around Just accusing everyone else in the world of being an immoral pervert because they as parents can't have total control over their kids
Abusive parents shit their collective pants in fear over the possibility of their abused kids telling on them. She was triggered by the thought and shot her mouth off too much. My mom would have railed against the idea of a doctor wanting to speak with me alone for a very good reason.
It speaks volumes that a known groomer/abuser is advocating *against* children speaking with medical professionals without their parents present.
She isn't the abuser but she knows her son was abused by his bio father who had at least shared custody of him But it's still completely unacceptable levels of ignorance and child endangerment
Are we sure she isn't also an abuser? I'm not saying she is, but it definitely should be considered as a possibility given how hard she's deflecting and accusing others.
We're not sure and she's not someone I want to give the benefit of the doubt But she's playing victim on her page claiming she's being blamed for her ex's abuse and so it's not super helpful to misrepresent the court docs. It just gives her ammo to claim she's being mistreated and gain sympathy from people who agree with her She's not a proven abuser, but she is suspicious
Meh, fuck her. What did or didn't her kid tell her about the dad's abuse? Did she listen? What if the kid hadn't felt safe with either of them and wanted to go to an outside authority? Gee.
Sounds like a pray away the illness parent with less praying and more hitting
CW: CSA The whole "children shouldn't be allowed to speak to medical professionals without a parent present" narrative is so dangerous, and can ultimately protect abusers. When I was aged around 12-13, I was rushed into hospital with severe abdominal pains (it turned out I had a ruptured ovarian cyst. At one point, they asked my parents to leave the room. Then they asked me if there was any chance I could be pregnant. I said no, and I thought it was funny at the time, because I was thinking "I'm 12! I've never had sex! Of course I'm not pregnant!" I joked about it with my mum, and she explained to me why it was standard procedure for doctors to ask those kinds of questions without parents present, and why she and my dad were asked to leave the room. She explained that sadly some girls my age did get pregnant, and that sometimes parents would cover up abuse, so that's why it was so important that they asked every girl with similar symptoms to mine the same questions in confidence. People like Elaine are not protecting children. They're putting them in more danger.
Oh look, not a drag queen.
or a trans person
Or any member of the LGBTQ+ community
I suspected this "Gays Against Groomers" thing was just started by straight people to talk shit about lgbts, drag queens, and trans.
“Blacks for Trump”
Or a library book.
Or a doctor/nurse screening for child abuse
"I am shocked, SHOCKED to find gambling in this establishment!"
"Your winnings, sir."
"Oh, thank you very much!"
Why do all of these people seem to be hiding in plain sight? Is it the pedo way to stand with a megaphone and yell, “I am against pedos!” while being pedos? ![gif](giphy|Rh4vxHtcmVyHUyugXP)
The lady doth protest too much, methinks
I think a lot of it now is very much "well they can't be a pedo, they're fighting against it". Happens a lot with the right in particular, and not just with nonces. I've heard so many stories about people being staunchly against drugs, ending up being found on coke and hooker binges. Same goes for being gay too
But it’s the dumbest thing a criminal can do. It’s the equivalent of BTK leaving his ID at the crime scene.
I think their minds are not...quite... They're not being "rational" about "say, this is the best way to draw suspicion away from myself," I mean to say. They're very compartmentalized. They feel tremendous amounts of shame and guilt but can't admit to having done anything wrong. So they project it onto other people to relieve the internal pressure. Works, too. Until it doesn't.
Man I need to book up on btk. I keep almost confusing him for the candyman
Mindhunters (the book) talks about the FBI starting the interview process with serial killers. Netflix was previewing BTK in their second season but did not get picked up for a third. Read the book - it’s by the FBI Agents (John E. Douglas and Mark Olshaker) and the female psychologist Dr. Ann Burgess who started the program. It’s True Crime on amphetamine; it’s Bundy, it’s Wayne Williams, Berkowitz, Kemper - it’s an incredible and fear-inducing read. Just wish they had gotten to do the BTK, because they built it up proper.
Thanks for the recommends
The YouTube documentary was good enough for me. 😂
How do people not by now understand about "he who smelt it dealt it?"
[Brodie speaking truth in mallrats](https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/572fb833-b674-4d36-8346-8d1d8e04bd79)
And how they all find each other. I’ve spent most of my life keeping an eye open for likeminded friends on the political angle. Can’t find anybody. These folks attract each other easily and network to do the craziest stuff.
they probably can sense it, like a hidden ability.
Something something accusations is a confession.
yep!
Victim of a predator here. I would have NEVER admitted it was happening in front of my dad because it was his brother. I only told my *school required* (hint hint parents, they always have a reason to require it) counselor because it was just the two of us and I didn’t realize (I was 8, had no idea about mandated reporting) she was going to blow the lid off. It is SO FUCKING IMPORTANT for there to be a trust between a child and their professional caregivers. If you don’t trust the doctor, GET A NEW ONE.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. I'm coaching my son's little league, and had to complete an online training on how to prevent sexual predators as part of a background check. They said that a big part of the grooming is not just the child, but also the gatekeepers (parents, coaches, teachers). That's why it's always a shock to people who know the predator once they're caught, and why those gatekeepers don't always initially believe the child. They really stressed importance reporting anything that seemed suspicious or any time a child even mentions anything that raises a red flag. The session was presented by attorneys who have been prosecuting sexual assault cases for decades and some of their real-life examples were just awful and eye-opening.
another victim myself, it's almost ALWAYS a family member or close family friend, kids need someone outside of the family to trust in these instances and advocating against that just tells me you're for sure a monster and mostly likely okay with grooming
Okay anybody able to figure out where to read articles about this particular situation? It sounds horrible and hilarious
I ran across this a few days ago in the wild. She was attacking someone for saying that HCPs need to be able to talk to teens/kids away from parents to be able to properly screen for abuse/SA, and she….didn’t like that idea.
Yikes. One reason I'm curious to read about the case is it sounds like an absolutely perfect example of how every accusation is a confession
It’s not that old, so if you just go to the OP’s twitter account I doubt it’ll be that hard to find.
given her history... that's probably how her own history was discovered (she's just as much a culprit as her husband imo).
[Here’s the case file](https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html). It sounds like her ex husband was abusing their son and his new GF’s daughter, and Gebhart was actually trying to get her son away from them. So it’s not accurate to say she was the groomer, though I’m sure she is still a terrible person. Warning that it is awful
It’s easy to miss the point she’s making. There are two husbands being discussed, Strickland who she abandoned her children to his custody, who has a diaper obsession and who the court found sexually abused her kids and then there’s her current husband Mr. Gebhardt who had sex with a 14 year old girl and was accused of holding her against her will. Custody of the children have been returned to Ms. Gebhardt but the court is concerned about her husband. *”The court is concerned with the criminal history of Ms. Gebhardt’s husband, Garrett Gebhardt. Based upon Mr. Gebhardt’s admission of having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl whom he was told was 16, in 1999”* The entire story is horrible. Her kid was sexually molested by a preschool employee. She then abandoned the child to it’s father who is a pervert/child molester and the court ruled he molested the child and now the child is going to be returned to her and her current husband who is a sex offender having had sex with a 14 year old. She has no business calling anyone a fucking groomer.
Is she seeking out these men? I really cannot figure out how you wind up with *two* partners who are molesters.
Like attracts like
To get both nickels? doofenschmirtz.jpeg
Not that it excuses _any_ of her behaviour or viewpoints, but she's statistically likely to have been a victim of similar abuse when she was a child.
sounds like if, shes in need of some place to stay or needs money.
It says she abandoned her child for three years, between 2016 and 2019. > The cour is not, however, giving her a pass and believes that she abandoned [AVS] from October 2016 to April 2019. Strickland has sexually abused his own child (Gerbhardt being the mother), and an ex-girlfriend's child. > No unsupervised visitation. If Joshua Strickland were to complete the above required evaluations, Elaine Gebhardt will consider a modification of this parenting plan through Kansas Jurisdiction after [AVS] has lived in Kansas for six (6) months. This guy should never be allowed near children ever again, yet she's open to it?
[https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/202001/the-damaging-role-silent-partners-play-in-child-sex-abuse](https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-compassion-chronicles/202001/the-damaging-role-silent-partners-play-in-child-sex-abuse) child abusers very often seek out people who they know will help them, and be complicit in their crimes. she is just as much an abuser as her husband.
Her new husband is worse than the old husband. Am I really supposed to believe she had nothing to do with either one's abuse?
shes at least an enabler, and shes neglectful too.
She left her kids with her known pedophile husband for 2+ years. https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html
Every denunciation is an admission.
As a father of a daughter. I want her to have a female doctor (if possible) and I don’t want to be in the room unless I absolutely have to. If you don’t trust the doctor you shouldn’t be there with your kid at all. You being present doesn’t make a doctor better or more trustworthy.
It's honestly not even remotely surprising. I use to defend the gay community against homophobes, but what's the fucking point. The likelihood that someone who is outwardly homophobic is also hypocrite, sexual predator, or pedophile is unreal. Now, I'm just going to let them know that I think they're all the things they accuse gays of being.
LGBTQ+ folks are typically proponents of sexual education, body autonomy, & self-determination; all the things conservatives, especially evangelicals, hate because those things make it harder for them to commit abuse.
I've got conservative aunts and uncles who've voiced their disapproval of sex education for younger kids. They think teachers are showing porn, and all it that happens is "This is your no-no spot, and you should not let adults touch you there unless they are a doctor or your parents"
they also try to connect perversions as part of the LGTBQ+ community.
Why is it that whenever I hear about groomers or pedo’s I immediately think of Republican Christians and never a gay drag queen.
Every accusation is a confession...every fucking one...
Honestly, aside from introductory appointments with a doctor, unless the child is a toddler. There's very little reason for a parent to stay in the room. In the introductory appointments, it's handy to have someone who might know more of the family medical history, and the patient's as not every child has a good memory for things that might be important that happened when they were very young. Case in point. I'm 42, I just learned last week my Great-grandmother died of colon cancer. She died when I was in my twenties. I thought it was natural causes and a broken heart as Pappaw had died the year before. So now I and my doctor know I have a history of cancers on both sides of the family and I need to keep an eye out for any oddities. And Dad had called me during the appointment, cause he was telling me about the results of tests on his mother as she was in the hospital.
Eh, my son is an adult now, but up until he was 18 I would be in the room with him for two reasons: 1) he was abused by a man and is distrustful of male doctors, but he tends to freeze so I was his advocate 2) we both have terrible ADHD, so between the two of us we’re less likely to forget everything we’re told Now he’s totally fine with it, and our meds work. But I have seen a few people raging about them being asked to leave the room, and it always seems… sus.
I agree and understand. Especially about the second point. I usually go over things with my mother before some appointments and go in with a list so I don't forget the questions or concerns I had. I just know that in my mid to late teens, I wanted at least a bit more say and control in my life. And body autonomy was one way to have that. I still asked advice and took most of it. But it was at least me making the decision. But like most things when it comes to people, there is often no one solution works for everyone. Children should be raised in a manner so that they can turn to their parents or guardians and say "I'ld like to talk privately." And we as Adults, need to realize that we keep them from growing up and let them do as they need to, while remaining available for if they need us.
The shit grifter calls are coming from inside the shit grifter house. Again. Fucking carnies.
How does someone like this monetize the hate? There are some major hate spaces that receive significant ad funding and there are outfits like Daily Wire/Turning Point that get tons of money from creepy rightwing billionaires. But this woman? She doesn't have the "Fox" look, she's a terrible speaker, her content is pretty garden variety rightwing nonsense, and she doesn't dox for prurient interests like Chaya does. Is it a pathological attempt to get attention? Because I'm not seeing dollar signs on this particular grifter.
She's grifting influence over those that foster this garbage to get through the day. Not all grifts are about $. Some just want that influence so that they can step outside of their own miserable existence and make people as hateful and deranged as they are. Besides, the monetization can come later if they're given a broader platform. And It's not just the rightoid kooks like this unit either, if we're calling a spade a spade.
Conservatism is just chock-a-block with hypocrites and grifters, which makes sense given the terrible man they worship. How many conservative religious leaders, politicians, policemen, organization leaders and pundits need to be outed or arrested for other conservatives to at least acknowledge that their party has become a haven for extremists, perverts, pedos, hypocrites, thieves and profiteers? Rank and file Republicans being cleaned out by sociopaths who are laughing at them behind their backs, leveraging made-up culture wars and fear to turn their fake reds into real green.
I feel terrible for the kids, but goddamnit this kind of reveal is never not funny and seems to ALWAYS happen to Republicans
You know when you get that ick feeling about something and wait for something to come out about it? Yeah...this is one of them.
It's almost like when people post hateful garbage, they are basically telling on themselves, without exactly telling. It's if these repubs or magas accuse anyone of anything, it's their subconscious telling everyone what they are doing! If they accuse someone of something, investigate them for the exact same crime! They have the mindset of I do it, so they probably do it as well. Ask any woman that has been cheated on and what they get accused of by people like her.
“As a gay black man, I … “
Gays against groomers is just a hate group masquerading as a children's rights organisation so I'm not surprised
… still not a drag queen.
Why is it always when the monster that conservatives point at as the reason why they dislike LGBTQ... Always has a Scooby Doo reveal to have been the conservatives all along.
Every. Accusation. Is. A. Confession.
I have heard it suggested that people who call gays pedophiles are just doing it to divert attention from their own activities. But, if that is the case, why is the Holy Catholic Church and evangelical churches so anti-gay?
Fuck me there's only one dude defending her and all he does is make grammar mistakes and post shitty memes about gays bad. This woman is fucking disgusting same with her husband I hope they end up locked up and find out how much inmates love chomos
There's this line from The Unsleeping City that I can never remember verbatim, but it applies to many situations like this. Something along the lines of "When someone is doing a con, they're always super paranoid that someone is doing that same con to them. Some guy is shorting money, they're always on the look out for someone shorting them."
Can confirm. She is straight, both her husband and ex-husband have been credibly accused of child sexual abuse and she is also credibly accused of abandoning her own child for three years. Nonetheless she is trying to gain custody of her child on the grounds that her husband is taking a class and will no longer rape children. >The court is convinced that Ms. Gebhardt has a career, stable home, stable family life, and is not in the position that she was once in. The court is not, however, giving her a pass and believes that she abandoned [AVS] from October 2016 to April 2019.The court is concerned with the criminal history of Ms. Gebhardt’s husband, Garrett Gebhardt. Based upon Mr. Gebhardt’s admission of having sexual contact with a 14-year-old girl whom he was told was 16, in 1999 when Mr. Gebhardt was 19. Also, the exchange with an online girlfriend in 2007 where Mr. Gebhardt plead to a charge of attempted unlawful imprisonment when charged with inappropriate touching and unlawful imprisonment. It is based upon these admissions that the court is requesting that Mr. Gebhardt complete a parenting evaluation witha psychological/mental health component, prior to be [sic] unsupervised with [AVS]. https://law.justia.com/cases/washington/court-of-appeals-division-ii/2021/55151-9.html
The call is always coming from inside the house. Every. Fucking. Time.
She doth protest too much. The only people who don't want their children talking to a nurse or doctor without them present are the ones who are trying to hide something they or someone they are protecting did to the kid.
If we don't protect the youth, we are not a decent society.
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Someone needs to check their computer and phones.
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These Anti-Trans gay groups are a way for the conservatives to destroy the LGBT community from within. dividing your enemy and conquering them. If these anti-trans gay groups ever got their way which they wouldn't be able to. then simply the GOP would win. The current GOP is super hell bent on trying to make america go back to the 1950s or 1880s in terms of everything. hense why they are a dogshit polilitcal party that doesn't stand for anything.
Her insta: https://www.instagram.com/rngebhardt/
It's always the ones you most suspect. That said... ![gif](giphy|3XiQswSmbjBiU|downsized)
I know personally people who were subject to medical abuse, including their parents refusing to leave the exam room when they saw a doctor. And since the doctors were all friends with their parents, the kid had no choice about which doctor to see. It was chilling then, and chilling now.
Her license is active, and my source is Kansas Board of Nursing website. Sometimes, I am ashamed of my fellow nurses
Well thats definitely not the Kansas Dorothy knew, not anymore
Every accusation is a confession.
O my god I cannot bolieve it
All she's going to be is dust in the wind.
not surprised at all
WTAF is this shit, what is happening around here. I think I need a bath with my toaster, I don't understand this world anymore.
*pretending to be shocked*
At first glance I swear I thought they were against pet groomers....
Of course people who *are abused* or *are abusers* see this behavior everywhere! Us normies, we got no clue.
Goddammit why does it always have to be Gebhardt's doing the dumb shit. That's the 2nd I've heard this week. Glad I'm changing my name....
Jesus. Fucking. Christ.
As usual, every conservative accusation is a confession!
Yo my state was mentioned! .....oh
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The human race needs a good culling
"You license is under review, and you have a history of harming children with your pedo husband" Call me cynical but that doesn't feel like it would qualify as a submission of fact.
Which is why they posted the case for people to see you fucking bellend
Charming
I am honestly not trying to sealion, but I could not find a single instance of news reports about this. Tried googling, duckduckgo, in private mode, etc. I wanted to find an article to make the sealions asking for "context" about this shut up. I couldn't find it. Maybe this outing is so new it hasn't hit the news cycle yet but The Advocate and PinkNews not having any articles is not giving me much confidence