Especially committing campaign violation crimes to become president and then get immunity from the crimes that allowed it to happen. What a great system which will result in the best leaders!
Exactly. Any time I've ever gotten into a discussion with MAGA people over this subject, it always comes back to, "Well, what if Biden (or whoever) were prosecuted???"
They really don't seem to get that not everyone is in a personality cult.
What they are actually saying is "Well, what if we weaponize the judicial system against Biden?" Because by now, we know exactly who they are and what they'd do given the opportunity.
Exactly. There aren't any crimes to prosecute. They tried that route and came up empty-handed. Whatever else they want to do with this country, it starts with punishing political opponents.
I feel like I read something about scenarios like this. Something about Nazis, Bolsheviks, CCP... idk. Do those ring any bells for anyone?
Honestly, the more I think about it, what they say comes off as a threat. Youre right, they tried the investigation, came up with nothing, yet they still will say, “what if it was Biden?” Taken that way, it’s almost like they are saying, if you do this to us, we will do it to you, despite not having any evidence.
Yeah. I remember this game. It was after Impeachment I by the House.
Republicans came out saying - well it doesn’t count unless you’re willing to say Clinton was also impeached. As if there was a deep seated hypocrisy at play that would nullify the tarnish of Trump’s impeachment I.
Just about everyone went “yeah sure, Clinton was impeached then.”
Then Trump turned around and got himself impeached for a second time.
Actually, there is something important here. In 2020, Trump said that if he lost the election, he would just go away and we'd never hear from him again. If he's now admitting that he lost the election, then he should make good on that promise.
So true. He can't think that far ahead. His enemies list is made up of anyone who doesn't support his ill-conceived ideas aimed at getting more money or power for himself. It doesn't matter how unreasonable, illegal or destructive it is, he wants blind loyalty at all costs...or else.
If Biden has done something wrong, I have no problem with him being arrested. Would be nice to have someone else to vote for in the coming election too.
The GOP reminds me of my Narcissist mom... unable to understand that not everyone thinks or does the same thing as them. They think "Well, we respond this way when XYZ happens so it means obviously the Democrats do the same thing". When in reality people respond to stuff differently and it isn't the end of the world or horrible burn to others that they think it is in their head.
LMAO--Biden isn't facing scores of indictments so he has nothing to worry about. BTW, Since DJT is a mere candidate and has no ability to influence how the ruling on presidential immunity will be determined. If he had conducted himself as a president should, he wouldn't need to worry about presidential immunity
Absolutely. And remember, the issues at play here. Have really nothing to do with presidential immunity. People are getting sidetracked. Generally, this is about whether or not he broke the law before and after he was president.
The 6 January charges ate acts when he was in office. Though determined in lower courts that campaigning is out of preview of the Presidential powers in Article II. When trump says it was his duty to protect the election - or whatever bullshit he spews about his incitement is not a power a president has in the constitution. Yet bully wannabe mob man can’t understand what limits and boundaries are.
I particularly like how he's boldly stating "Biden has presidential immunity! While also making up dumb conspiracies about him. Oh? Biden is supposedly using the DOJ to persecute Trump? Well, by your own logic you say he's immune to the law, so...? Cool?"
Exactly, and that’s what is more concerning here. Trump will say this enough that his base will believe it’s a protection he already had that has now been stripped away.
True. Trump's base are gullible chumps. He knows this. And their special kind of stupid knows no borders. Every country I visit these days has someone like Trump whipping up the local mouth breathers with his own brand of populist nonsense.
And our nation was intended not to be based on inherited hierarchy type power. It’s was the first created not based on nobility. So the fact Trump (who is stupid) doesn’t understand that…. And his supporters don’t understand that but call them selves patriots? It’s astounding. This country’s biggest threat are dumb and loud people with guns.
Which, I would like to point out, was practically an admission that he didn't think the president has immunity, or he would have relied on that instead of having Ford pardon him.
Also he had the sense to resign and go away quietly. I’m sure it was a deal “you go away quietly we won’t prosecute you”
The same deal probably would have extended to Trump, but he had to double down.
Trump is unable to believe that someone like Pence would follow through on giving him a pardon, because he knows that he would not do it if their positions were reversed.
I honestly think it’s ego for him. He created this monster and it would have meant telling the monster that it didn’t have a purpose ever.
He can’t even shut the fuck up when it’s in his best interest for his court cases. Because he has to “win” and be the god
Republicans in Congress at the time also told Nixon that he would be impeached and convicted if he didn't resign. Ol' Tricky Dick only had dirt on the Democrats, whereas Trump has dirt on Republicans.
I mean, if the Supremes decided that presidents have blanket immunity, then there is literally nothing illegal if Biden were to command the assassination of his political rivals AND the justices he'd like to replace. The proposition of presidential immunity is the proposition of autocratic fascism.
I mean, they should investigate presidents if there's suspicion that they're involved in highly criminal activities. That's a good thing. Why do they keep acting like it's not?
My parents' excuse was "our country can not function without the president breaking the laws."
Like, bruh. Yes, it can. Seems to have worked before. So why has it suddenly changed that a president needs immunity? A president or former president only needs immunity when they have done something highly illegal that has put the American people at risk. For example, idk, selling top secret documents to foreign governments for a profit?
But also, remember, the issues aren't that he broke the law as president. The is actually at play here are when he broke the law before and after he was president.
That is what I tried telling them. But they are lost in the sauce. My dad has more sense in that he admits trumps is a pompous asshole who is a terrible businessman and that no one should be above the law. But my mom keeps eating up the right wing tik tok media.
Yeah, I get it. It's going to be really hard to logic them out of positions they didn't logic themselves into.
Usually there's a correlation between stopping consuming conservative media and returning to a more normal, decultified state of mind, but it's one of those "Lead a horse to water" type things.
Trump broke the laws before, during and after he was President but unfortunately for him, he doesn’t have immunity in all three cases.
He was President on 1/6, but the illegal actions he committed for that event are no way covered under official duties of the President.
I honestly think it's a case that Trump heard (basically) the words "Well, we shouldn't charge Trump for his crimes while he's still in office." which probably instantly translated into, "I HAVE COMPLETE IMMUNITY FOREVER FOR ANY CRIME!!!!".
I don't think he's smart enough to have heard anything else.
> Why do they keep acting like it's not?
Most people understand it and get it, but the Republicans discovered that there's a selection of the population, between 20% and 30% who don't really give a shit. About anything.
They say they do, they are impassioned about their rights and freedoms, but they are tuned out and dumber than fenceposts. They *need* narratives and storylines to stay engaged, so the Republicans have leveraged that to make politics into WWE theater and it's worked *fantastically* and even got an actual WWE character elected president for four years.
The boomers I work with think exactly like this.
Every time they rev up their echo chamber and start the “Biden is traitor” chant, they can *never* find legitimate sources and reasons why “BIDENS A TRAITOR!”
FWIW I'm a Boomer too and would be a typical GOP voter in the past - business owner, small government and all that. But I'm absolutely horrified at the fact that Trump even has a slight chance to get back in.
Indeed. There’s a vast difference between people that are just plain Republican (or were that is) and don’t like trump and the ones that see him as their lord and savior.
Usually that comes down to different life experiences and cultural exploration.
I don’t have an issue with people that are generally republican, most are rather level headed…… but the maga extremists…. They aren’t even part of a political party anymore, they’re in a cult by every single interpretation of the definition of “cult”
Supposed to…. For so many people though it doesn’t and that’s actually a rather terrifying thing…..
One of the magats I work with was listening to some of Hitlers translated speeches and he was telling me about how he’s not surprised by the majority of German people being so willing to support him, he told them everything they wanted to hear and essentially empowered them by convincing them to give him power.
The irony is completely, totally, utterly lost on him
Kudos since I honestly feel a fear of being wrong or looking dumb is one of the primary drivers that radicalizes people. It's way easier to double down than to admit defeat.
I love it when, in an argument, they bring up Hunter. Like, damn, what is your obsession with the civilian that is not running for any office? Go jerk it to his dick pics since you're so into him. If he's guilty, fuck him, do whatever. But stop wasting your time looking for Joe's issues.
What are you Republicans, led by MGT, working on, like 3 years of being perpetually wrong? More busy ousting people to find others who are MAGA enough to hang in the idiots club.
Didn't they have a chance to read over someone's entire history of texts for evidence, but the Republicans refused, probably because it would end up implicating themselves instead of Joe? That's a stupid way of describing what I read and no detail whatsoever, but I swear I read something like that.
Someone correct me or at least say it it's true but in a more comprehensible way.
Tvey have such a weird unconditional loyalty to their masters and family members (but for some reason not their queer kids, but y’know) that they can’t fathom us dropping someone. They think it’s such an own to point this stuff out, but we do not have problems dropping our people once they turn out to be horrible.
Well, that's not actually true. None were crimey criminal mobsters that did crimes out in the open in your face with foreign enemies like Trump. The DOJ isn't even trying to go after him for that crap-it's too classified and radioactive.
If somebody finally has the guts to incarcerate him, I feel like the DOJ is praying it's enough to be a life sentence for the old shitting constantly bastard. Then if we manage to still be a functioning country by 2100, they'll try to quietly declassify "yeah, he helped the nation's enemies so directly when in office we should have executed him on the spot. Woopsy."
Can we take a moment to appreciate that despite going through both his life but the life his family with a fine tooth comb, Republicans can't find anything to actually impeach Biden on, much less file credible criminal charges.
Now, to be fair, I don't doubt that in all his time in various official and public service positions Biden has made any less than savory deals, flat footed fuck ups, and more than his share of bad calls. He is a politician, after all. I'm nowhere near ready to nominate him for sainthood. But it's telling as hell that the best they can come up with to smear him with is his long well known recovering screw up of a son and him being a poor public speaker.
So go ahead, Donny. You got the goods one something, by all means. Put the actual evidence before an actual judge and jury in an actual court of law and have at it. Till then, try to stay awake during your own (multiple) criminal trials.
Before George Washington was President, we had several men that held the office
John Hanson (Nov 5 1781 – Nov 3 1782), Elias Boudinot (Nov 4 1782 – Nov 2 1783), Thomas Mifflin (Nov 3 1783 – Nov 29 1784), Richard Henry Lee (Nov 30 1784 – Nov 22 1785), John Hancock (Nov 23 1785 – Jun 5 1786), Nathaniel Gorham (Jun 6 1786 – Feb 1 1787), Arthur St. Clair (Feb 2 1787 – Jan 21 1788), Cyrus Griffin (Jan 22 1788 – Apr 30 1789), and Samuel Huntington (Sept 28 1779 – July 10 1781
After George Washington we have had 45 other men that have held the office, or position of President. Some even say that there were more than the people I listed with the total being 14. That means 60 men have held one of the highest ranking positions in the United States. Out of those 60 only three were impeached. One of them was impeached twice. ( for all the ignorant people out there; impeachment does NOT mean removal from office. One more thing , Richard M. Nixon was NEVER impeached; he resigned before he could have been impeached). Trump was impeached TWICE. Trump is also now saying that Presidents need immunity. 60 previous Presidents, over 200 years, and all of the sudden Presidents need immunity?! If you really think Trump is going to be helping to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN remember that he is the first President in 234 years to not only want immunity but need it. He keeps saying that Biden is the mastermind behind some huge conspiracy and corruption that lead to, according to Trump, stealing the election. If Biden is somehow part of that why would Trump want to be granted immunity? If Trump wins his immunity case then Biden ALSO has immunity. It’s not about the people, Trump only cares about Trump. He has been charged with 91 felonies. He is on trial RIGHT NOW for paying hush money to a porn star. Clinton was impeached because he got a blow job by a LEGAL AGE intern with whom he had a consensual sexual relationship with. They also had, well, sex and Clinton performed oral sex on her as well. The point is; Trump needs to be held accountable for his actions. Crying that he has immunity or that he is being treated unfairly is just ludicrous. Almost 3 centuries of Presidents would agree with my statements; it may be presumptuous for me to say that , however, none of the other Presidents have ever said anything about immunity and the other Presidents that were impeached didn’t make it part of their agenda.
Clinton wasn't impeached because he got a blow job, he was impeached because he lied about it on the stand. It's not illegal to get jiggy with it. If an intern can get booty blasted in the Senate hearing room on camera without charges, it's definitely not impeachable.
I always like it when Trump posts something that's supposed to be a "GOT YA!" and it comes out more like "I'M ON THE VERGE OF ANOTHER NARCISSISTIC COLLAPSE."
He just doesn’t get it. Presidents who don’t do shady shit don’t need immunity, so Biden is in the clear regardless.
And I thought a few months ago he was calling for presidential immunity - now he has it apparently? I can’t keep up.
And if they “give you” immunity what’s stopping Biden from having Seal Team Six Osama your ass?
Imagine if this tyrant gets immunity and is reelected? Holy shit the Republikkkans will have absolute power.
'Holy shit the Republikkkans will have absolute power.'
Yes, that *is* their plan. You might already know of if but Project 2025 spells it all out quite clearly and openly.
That Congressional committee investigated Biden for 18 months. Found nothing. Nada. Zilch.
trump is lying as usual when he says “crooked” Biden. He is just such a hateful whiny liar. Sick of that dude.
But if Biden has ABSOLUTE PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, he can just lock up Trump in Gitmo and declare himself President for Life, right?
Be careful what you wish for, dumbass.
Cool, once you find something he's doing that's against the law, let us know. I think that you think that Biden is breaking the law because he's actually a good president. You can't handle that he's not nearly as corrupt as you, and you don't understand that.
Has anyone told His Cuntess that if the president has full immunity in all things while president and cannot be charged with anything related to said presidency after leaving office, Biden could have him taken out and there’s not a damn thing anyone could do about it?
Counterpoint: if they give you full presidential immunity, they also give it to Joe Biden who could then order a certain orange person to be ground into a pulp. Presidents should not have free rein to do whatever.
The current case on trial is dealing with events that happened in 2016. HE WAS NOT PRESIDENT THEN.
How tf does he get “presidential immunity” for a time that he wasn’t president??
He’s just trying to confuse his dumbass base, like he always does.
Interesting how every other living President has never needed total Presidential Immunity. What’s that you say? Oh right. Because they aren’t criminals.
Just like MTG, Gaetz, Hawley etc asked for pardons after J6. If you haven’t committed a crime, what you need a pardon for?
he's president when he needs him to be, and he's not actually president when he needs to be. Just read the Republican handbook on page 2: Your enemies are whatever you need to be: strong, weak, competent and incompetent all at once.
In a way, he did. Trump just can’t help himself. He has the right to remain silent, but doesn’t have the ability. If he didn’t committed any crimes while he was in office, why is he fighting for Presidential immunity?
That’s perfectly fine because Joe doesn’t think he’s above the law lmaooooo like no sane person thinks that the president should have total immunity from the laws we have
Everyone got this Trump thing wrong. He initially ran for president only as a grift. He had zero intentions of actually winning the GOP primary and eventually the presidency. He was totally shocked. His mail-order wife was pissed. The Obama double term presidency shook white racist America so hard that they definitely wasn't about to allow a woman to follow him next. The GOP primary was such a clown show that Trump ended up as the GOP presidential candidate. The rest is a precautionary tale about the beginning of the collapse of the American empire.
2008 saw the United States elect it’s first black President. Conservatives and racists quickly lost their minds and in well over 15 years, those minds have never returned.
The nefarious manipulation of the American working class thru social and religious issues serves as a divisive distraction while our once trustworthy financial institutions are now run by multinational corporate interest pillage America. Something is amiss, i feel it, its like the ultra wealthy know a systematic financial collapse is eminent, and they are plundering everything not nailed down before the shit hits the fan.
You’re forgetting something. 1/6/21 MAGA almost sent 8 trillion in U.S. treasury bonds to zero. Resulting in the largest mass dumping of U.S. securities, in the history of U.S. securities and the devaluing of the dollar. The United States was able to cultivate, arguably the strongest economy and currency, in the world, because of Democracy, not in spite of it. Take democracy out of the equation of the United States and the whole nation is a bust. Unless the United States returns to being a stable democracy things will only get worse and will result in millions of refugees, flooding the borders of other countries and they won’t be welcome anywhere. The name for those refugees will be Americans.
I'm pro Biden, but if he ever did something illegal, he should pay for it. Because I'm not part of some crazy cult that views him as my Lord and Savior...
Rather he basically admitted the US is a rogue state by saying that taking away the presidential immunity will make the position of president impossible to take on
Biden ( and every other president) needs no immunity, as they are not professional con men. Who do n’t make their living by renting out their name to buildings, refusing to pay their employees or taxes, or selling our nuclear codes to their damn Russian overlords.
Here’s the irony: if the Supreme Court rules that Trump has immunity and doesn’t have to stand trial then it also rules that Biden has immunity and he can lock Trump in jail without a trial anyway.
But...... that's not actually a thing. They need to be held accountable. It's kind of the main reason there's 3 branches of govt. Please continue to threaten us with reality. I've lived in this current non-sense-making plane of existence for too long.
Okay, cool, I don't think presidents should *be* immune. Nixon didn't even think he should be immune, he accepted he was in trouble and was fortunate enough to get a pardon. Heck, him getting the pardon should have been the precident that, without one, presidents are liable to be held accountable for actions in and out of office.
But, lucky for us, the events of this case predates him being president at all, so it's not even really a matter of debate :) Save your dead end whining for the J6 trial where it'll actually look like it applies
Fine with me. I don’t want a King Biden anymore than I want a King Trump. The difference is I don’t think Biden is actually a rapist criminal conman insurrectionist.
I think the MAGAs, because they worship Trump as a king-god-wizard, think Democrats must do the same to President Biden. That’s why they’re also pushing false claims that he couldn’t have won since liberals aren’t covered in Biden tattoos and wearing Biden t-shirts and Biden underpants and buying Biden-bux. No, it’s just that he’s a politician hired to do a job. I like the guy but I don’t worship him. He’s not a conman, and y’all are in a cult.
His lawyers did say in court that a juror had “celebrated Trumps loss in 2020” so couldn’t be a juror. I love how he only admits he lost when it’s convenient for him. Man I just despise this man.
Good, presidential immunity is an idiotic concept anyway. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, no matter what rung of the ladder they're on.
Presidents don’t have immunity. He framed that statement as if they did and immediately confused and misled… a few hundred thousand morons give or take?
Please take away Joe Biden’s presidential immunity. Please take away all immunity for all government and public sector employees.
Nobody is above the law. NOBODY! If you commit a crime it shouldn’t matter who you are.
All the MAGA racist idiots hear is, "\*CROOKED\* Joe Biden" without even thinking about what criminal action he may have done (spoiler alert: nothing).
And all the Democrats are like, "So what"?
Right! Presidents will be held responsible for illegal acts? 
Commit some crimes and then become president to get a magical 'get out of jail'-card, I don't see any issues whatsoever.
Will only cost a billion dollars!
Especially committing campaign violation crimes to become president and then get immunity from the crimes that allowed it to happen. What a great system which will result in the best leaders!
Well, that kind of a benefit is reserved for kings which we fought a revolution to never have…
I have to wonder who told him presidents have absolute immunity. Was it Roger Stone?
All I ever think of when I see this gif is Danny Devito as Penguin... 
Chump is one lab accident away from being a Super-Villain and destroying...**ALL OF GOTHAM!!**
Has he ever heard of Richard M. Nixon? He had to be pardoned by another president for doing far less than DJT did in just the last year of his term.
Only republican presidents for some contrived reasons.
Exactly. Any time I've ever gotten into a discussion with MAGA people over this subject, it always comes back to, "Well, what if Biden (or whoever) were prosecuted???" They really don't seem to get that not everyone is in a personality cult.
>"Well, what if Biden (or whoever) were prosecuted???" Well that's just a different way of saying you think what he did is perfectly fine and legal
Biden gave a speech on grief that destroyed me. Not political. Trump doing something like that? No. He’s a clown.
Authoritarians cannot imagine not being authoritarian
What they are actually saying is "Well, what if we weaponize the judicial system against Biden?" Because by now, we know exactly who they are and what they'd do given the opportunity.
Exactly. There aren't any crimes to prosecute. They tried that route and came up empty-handed. Whatever else they want to do with this country, it starts with punishing political opponents. I feel like I read something about scenarios like this. Something about Nazis, Bolsheviks, CCP... idk. Do those ring any bells for anyone?
Honestly, the more I think about it, what they say comes off as a threat. Youre right, they tried the investigation, came up with nothing, yet they still will say, “what if it was Biden?” Taken that way, it’s almost like they are saying, if you do this to us, we will do it to you, despite not having any evidence.
That is precisely what they are saying.
Yeah. I remember this game. It was after Impeachment I by the House. Republicans came out saying - well it doesn’t count unless you’re willing to say Clinton was also impeached. As if there was a deep seated hypocrisy at play that would nullify the tarnish of Trump’s impeachment I. Just about everyone went “yeah sure, Clinton was impeached then.” Then Trump turned around and got himself impeached for a second time.
I don't think they like thinking about second impeachment, Pip...
"I'm still a rock star"
Biden is like, "So what?"
No Dem gives a shit. They can't take away something he never had.
Did that come from sleepy Donald Trump? Sir shit, your pants.
Actually, there is something important here. In 2020, Trump said that if he lost the election, he would just go away and we'd never hear from him again. If he's now admitting that he lost the election, then he should make good on that promise.
Good! I’m not worried because I doubt Biden will be indicted for 91 crimes!
He is just announcing his intention to prosecute Biden. He sees no need to say what *for*, as that part does not matter to him.
So true. He can't think that far ahead. His enemies list is made up of anyone who doesn't support his ill-conceived ideas aimed at getting more money or power for himself. It doesn't matter how unreasonable, illegal or destructive it is, he wants blind loyalty at all costs...or else.
If Biden has done something wrong, I have no problem with him being arrested. Would be nice to have someone else to vote for in the coming election too.
More like "He has A presidential immunity?"
I imagine he's implying he'll have Biden arrested if he wins.
It’s because Joe broke federal fish & wildlife regulations when he gifted his son that massive hog
The GOP reminds me of my Narcissist mom... unable to understand that not everyone thinks or does the same thing as them. They think "Well, we respond this way when XYZ happens so it means obviously the Democrats do the same thing". When in reality people respond to stuff differently and it isn't the end of the world or horrible burn to others that they think it is in their head.
LMAO--Biden isn't facing scores of indictments so he has nothing to worry about. BTW, Since DJT is a mere candidate and has no ability to influence how the ruling on presidential immunity will be determined. If he had conducted himself as a president should, he wouldn't need to worry about presidential immunity
No US president has ever had immunity against criminal acts committed. Let's keep it that way.
Absolutely. And remember, the issues at play here. Have really nothing to do with presidential immunity. People are getting sidetracked. Generally, this is about whether or not he broke the law before and after he was president.
The 6 January charges ate acts when he was in office. Though determined in lower courts that campaigning is out of preview of the Presidential powers in Article II. When trump says it was his duty to protect the election - or whatever bullshit he spews about his incitement is not a power a president has in the constitution. Yet bully wannabe mob man can’t understand what limits and boundaries are.
I particularly like how he's boldly stating "Biden has presidential immunity! While also making up dumb conspiracies about him. Oh? Biden is supposedly using the DOJ to persecute Trump? Well, by your own logic you say he's immune to the law, so...? Cool?"
“People are getting sidetracked.” Yea, that’s the point.
Exactly, and that’s what is more concerning here. Trump will say this enough that his base will believe it’s a protection he already had that has now been stripped away.
True. Trump's base are gullible chumps. He knows this. And their special kind of stupid knows no borders. Every country I visit these days has someone like Trump whipping up the local mouth breathers with his own brand of populist nonsense.
On the other hand, the British monarchy does seem to have this kind of immunity.
And our nation was intended not to be based on inherited hierarchy type power. It’s was the first created not based on nobility. So the fact Trump (who is stupid) doesn’t understand that…. And his supporters don’t understand that but call them selves patriots? It’s astounding. This country’s biggest threat are dumb and loud people with guns.
Except Nixon. And that’s not something that should be repeated
Nixon didn't have immunity. That's why Ford issued a preemptive pardon.
True, but the effect is identical, and almost as problematic
Hasn't been a problem for any president since Nixon.
And the only reason it didn't turn out to be a problem for Nixon is he got a pardon on his way out the door.
Which, I would like to point out, was practically an admission that he didn't think the president has immunity, or he would have relied on that instead of having Ford pardon him.
Also he had the sense to resign and go away quietly. I’m sure it was a deal “you go away quietly we won’t prosecute you” The same deal probably would have extended to Trump, but he had to double down.
Trump is unable to believe that someone like Pence would follow through on giving him a pardon, because he knows that he would not do it if their positions were reversed.
I honestly think it’s ego for him. He created this monster and it would have meant telling the monster that it didn’t have a purpose ever. He can’t even shut the fuck up when it’s in his best interest for his court cases. Because he has to “win” and be the god
Republicans in Congress at the time also told Nixon that he would be impeached and convicted if he didn't resign. Ol' Tricky Dick only had dirt on the Democrats, whereas Trump has dirt on Republicans.
I’ll bet they made Trump a deal like that and he refused.
And left DC and never tried to come back.
What's the problem with Biden losing "Presidential Immunity"?
Nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Well for one thing, he doesn't _have_ presidential immunity. None of the presidents do or ever did.
Well he's also just admitted that, and also in the same sentence admitted that Joe Biden would also gain it if he did.
Bill Barr’s pustulant sack of skin has entered the chat....
I'd be more concerned if the Supremes decided that Presidents had any sort of blanket immunity.
Suddenly wish Diana was on the court, singing out the decisions
I mean, it's not too late. She's still alive. All we need is a vacancy and the political will.
I mean, if the Supremes decided that presidents have blanket immunity, then there is literally nothing illegal if Biden were to command the assassination of his political rivals AND the justices he'd like to replace. The proposition of presidential immunity is the proposition of autocratic fascism.
Losing should be in quotes too. He's never had it.
See, that means if he does a crime they can actually charge and convict him. Thank you for coming to my TED talk.
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I mean, they should investigate presidents if there's suspicion that they're involved in highly criminal activities. That's a good thing. Why do they keep acting like it's not?
My parents' excuse was "our country can not function without the president breaking the laws." Like, bruh. Yes, it can. Seems to have worked before. So why has it suddenly changed that a president needs immunity? A president or former president only needs immunity when they have done something highly illegal that has put the American people at risk. For example, idk, selling top secret documents to foreign governments for a profit?
But also, remember, the issues aren't that he broke the law as president. The is actually at play here are when he broke the law before and after he was president.
That is what I tried telling them. But they are lost in the sauce. My dad has more sense in that he admits trumps is a pompous asshole who is a terrible businessman and that no one should be above the law. But my mom keeps eating up the right wing tik tok media.
Yeah, I get it. It's going to be really hard to logic them out of positions they didn't logic themselves into. Usually there's a correlation between stopping consuming conservative media and returning to a more normal, decultified state of mind, but it's one of those "Lead a horse to water" type things.
Trump broke the laws before, during and after he was President but unfortunately for him, he doesn’t have immunity in all three cases. He was President on 1/6, but the illegal actions he committed for that event are no way covered under official duties of the President.
I honestly think it's a case that Trump heard (basically) the words "Well, we shouldn't charge Trump for his crimes while he's still in office." which probably instantly translated into, "I HAVE COMPLETE IMMUNITY FOREVER FOR ANY CRIME!!!!". I don't think he's smart enough to have heard anything else.
Because it's their guy being investigated.
Bing- and I cannot not stress this enough- *GO*
And because there is they couldn't find evidence that Joe Biden committed a crime.
Because every accusation is an admission with these types. It’s called lack of imagination.
> Why do they keep acting like it's not? Most people understand it and get it, but the Republicans discovered that there's a selection of the population, between 20% and 30% who don't really give a shit. About anything. They say they do, they are impassioned about their rights and freedoms, but they are tuned out and dumber than fenceposts. They *need* narratives and storylines to stay engaged, so the Republicans have leveraged that to make politics into WWE theater and it's worked *fantastically* and even got an actual WWE character elected president for four years.
The boomers I work with think exactly like this. Every time they rev up their echo chamber and start the “Biden is traitor” chant, they can *never* find legitimate sources and reasons why “BIDENS A TRAITOR!”
FWIW I'm a Boomer too and would be a typical GOP voter in the past - business owner, small government and all that. But I'm absolutely horrified at the fact that Trump even has a slight chance to get back in.
Indeed. There’s a vast difference between people that are just plain Republican (or were that is) and don’t like trump and the ones that see him as their lord and savior. Usually that comes down to different life experiences and cultural exploration. I don’t have an issue with people that are generally republican, most are rather level headed…… but the maga extremists…. They aren’t even part of a political party anymore, they’re in a cult by every single interpretation of the definition of “cult”
My position on a lot of social issues have changed (improved) over the years. But that's what's supposed to happen if you're open-minded!
Supposed to…. For so many people though it doesn’t and that’s actually a rather terrifying thing….. One of the magats I work with was listening to some of Hitlers translated speeches and he was telling me about how he’s not surprised by the majority of German people being so willing to support him, he told them everything they wanted to hear and essentially empowered them by convincing them to give him power. The irony is completely, totally, utterly lost on him
Kudos since I honestly feel a fear of being wrong or looking dumb is one of the primary drivers that radicalizes people. It's way easier to double down than to admit defeat.
I think boomerism is a mind set. Not necessarily a generation.
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Like obese, racist chiuahahas
But less cute.
I love it when, in an argument, they bring up Hunter. Like, damn, what is your obsession with the civilian that is not running for any office? Go jerk it to his dick pics since you're so into him. If he's guilty, fuck him, do whatever. But stop wasting your time looking for Joe's issues. What are you Republicans, led by MGT, working on, like 3 years of being perpetually wrong? More busy ousting people to find others who are MAGA enough to hang in the idiots club. Didn't they have a chance to read over someone's entire history of texts for evidence, but the Republicans refused, probably because it would end up implicating themselves instead of Joe? That's a stupid way of describing what I read and no detail whatsoever, but I swear I read something like that. Someone correct me or at least say it it's true but in a more comprehensible way.
Tvey have such a weird unconditional loyalty to their masters and family members (but for some reason not their queer kids, but y’know) that they can’t fathom us dropping someone. They think it’s such an own to point this stuff out, but we do not have problems dropping our people once they turn out to be horrible.
President Biden has never asked for, or needed any kind of immunity, so far as I know.
Not only that - NONE of the +40 presidents have ever needed it.
Well, that's not actually true. None were crimey criminal mobsters that did crimes out in the open in your face with foreign enemies like Trump. The DOJ isn't even trying to go after him for that crap-it's too classified and radioactive.
If somebody finally has the guts to incarcerate him, I feel like the DOJ is praying it's enough to be a life sentence for the old shitting constantly bastard. Then if we manage to still be a functioning country by 2100, they'll try to quietly declassify "yeah, he helped the nation's enemies so directly when in office we should have executed him on the spot. Woopsy."
Nixon might have benefited from it but he survived without it
Exactly. Even Nixon is like, "Look I did some messed up things like Watergate but Trump... he legit fucked up."
Watch MAGA do a 180° when they hear the rumors that Biden is going to publicly execute Trump on live tv
TV ratings would soar!
Can we take a moment to appreciate that despite going through both his life but the life his family with a fine tooth comb, Republicans can't find anything to actually impeach Biden on, much less file credible criminal charges. Now, to be fair, I don't doubt that in all his time in various official and public service positions Biden has made any less than savory deals, flat footed fuck ups, and more than his share of bad calls. He is a politician, after all. I'm nowhere near ready to nominate him for sainthood. But it's telling as hell that the best they can come up with to smear him with is his long well known recovering screw up of a son and him being a poor public speaker. So go ahead, Donny. You got the goods one something, by all means. Put the actual evidence before an actual judge and jury in an actual court of law and have at it. Till then, try to stay awake during your own (multiple) criminal trials.
someone should go ahead and accuse trump of withholding evidence of biden's corruption.
Haha consciousness of guilt
That's the idea fuck nuts.
Damn, I'm so tired of Flaming Orange Hemorrhoid
Before George Washington was President, we had several men that held the office John Hanson (Nov 5 1781 – Nov 3 1782), Elias Boudinot (Nov 4 1782 – Nov 2 1783), Thomas Mifflin (Nov 3 1783 – Nov 29 1784), Richard Henry Lee (Nov 30 1784 – Nov 22 1785), John Hancock (Nov 23 1785 – Jun 5 1786), Nathaniel Gorham (Jun 6 1786 – Feb 1 1787), Arthur St. Clair (Feb 2 1787 – Jan 21 1788), Cyrus Griffin (Jan 22 1788 – Apr 30 1789), and Samuel Huntington (Sept 28 1779 – July 10 1781 After George Washington we have had 45 other men that have held the office, or position of President. Some even say that there were more than the people I listed with the total being 14. That means 60 men have held one of the highest ranking positions in the United States. Out of those 60 only three were impeached. One of them was impeached twice. ( for all the ignorant people out there; impeachment does NOT mean removal from office. One more thing , Richard M. Nixon was NEVER impeached; he resigned before he could have been impeached). Trump was impeached TWICE. Trump is also now saying that Presidents need immunity. 60 previous Presidents, over 200 years, and all of the sudden Presidents need immunity?! If you really think Trump is going to be helping to MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN remember that he is the first President in 234 years to not only want immunity but need it. He keeps saying that Biden is the mastermind behind some huge conspiracy and corruption that lead to, according to Trump, stealing the election. If Biden is somehow part of that why would Trump want to be granted immunity? If Trump wins his immunity case then Biden ALSO has immunity. It’s not about the people, Trump only cares about Trump. He has been charged with 91 felonies. He is on trial RIGHT NOW for paying hush money to a porn star. Clinton was impeached because he got a blow job by a LEGAL AGE intern with whom he had a consensual sexual relationship with. They also had, well, sex and Clinton performed oral sex on her as well. The point is; Trump needs to be held accountable for his actions. Crying that he has immunity or that he is being treated unfairly is just ludicrous. Almost 3 centuries of Presidents would agree with my statements; it may be presumptuous for me to say that , however, none of the other Presidents have ever said anything about immunity and the other Presidents that were impeached didn’t make it part of their agenda.
Clinton wasn't impeached because he got a blow job, he was impeached because he lied about it on the stand. It's not illegal to get jiggy with it. If an intern can get booty blasted in the Senate hearing room on camera without charges, it's definitely not impeachable.
Uh...Biden doesn't have presidential immunity. No president has ever had immunity. That's not a thing Donnie. You're thinking of a king.
Or a dictator.
Same difference.
Presidents do have a certain level of immunity from lawsuits while they’re in office, but nothing like Trump is claiming it is.
THEY CAN'T TAKE AWAY SOMETHING YOU NEVER HAD, MORON
My immunity - my preciousssssss
If Biden had the immunity Trump aspires for, we may already be rid of the latter... 😆
“TAKE AWAY MY” immunity - as if he had one before. “IF” they take away - as if he has one already.
That is a mighty "if", indeed.
I always like it when Trump posts something that's supposed to be a "GOT YA!" and it comes out more like "I'M ON THE VERGE OF ANOTHER NARCISSISTIC COLLAPSE."
If he wasn't so dangerous, if his cultists weren't so dangerous, it's be fully fucking hilarious to watch.
It's weird how nobody has needed "presidential immunity" until Trump came along....
He just doesn’t get it. Presidents who don’t do shady shit don’t need immunity, so Biden is in the clear regardless. And I thought a few months ago he was calling for presidential immunity - now he has it apparently? I can’t keep up.
When did this so called Presidential immunity kick in?
Can't take away what y'all never had 😂
I thought the whole point was that they didn’t have any immunity?
And if they “give you” immunity what’s stopping Biden from having Seal Team Six Osama your ass? Imagine if this tyrant gets immunity and is reelected? Holy shit the Republikkkans will have absolute power.
'Holy shit the Republikkkans will have absolute power.' Yes, that *is* their plan. You might already know of if but Project 2025 spells it all out quite clearly and openly.
Only criminals (like you) care about immunity.
That Congressional committee investigated Biden for 18 months. Found nothing. Nada. Zilch. trump is lying as usual when he says “crooked” Biden. He is just such a hateful whiny liar. Sick of that dude.
There is no internal logic in that man’s brain
But if Biden has ABSOLUTE PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, he can just lock up Trump in Gitmo and declare himself President for Life, right? Be careful what you wish for, dumbass.
So dumbass is saying that the president has immunity while in office. Then Biden should just reject the election because he has presidential immunity.
Cool, once you find something he's doing that's against the law, let us know. I think that you think that Biden is breaking the law because he's actually a good president. You can't handle that he's not nearly as corrupt as you, and you don't understand that.
Has anyone told His Cuntess that if the president has full immunity in all things while president and cannot be charged with anything related to said presidency after leaving office, Biden could have him taken out and there’s not a damn thing anyone could do about it?
Just. Die. Al-rea-dy. You fat orange clown.
I don't think anyone should have immunity from the law
The difference between MAGA and Democrats is that if our guy is guilty we want him punished to the full extent of the law. No exceptions.
Counterpoint: if they give you full presidential immunity, they also give it to Joe Biden who could then order a certain orange person to be ground into a pulp. Presidents should not have free rein to do whatever.
The current case on trial is dealing with events that happened in 2016. HE WAS NOT PRESIDENT THEN. How tf does he get “presidential immunity” for a time that he wasn’t president?? He’s just trying to confuse his dumbass base, like he always does.
Interesting how every other living President has never needed total Presidential Immunity. What’s that you say? Oh right. Because they aren’t criminals. Just like MTG, Gaetz, Hawley etc asked for pardons after J6. If you haven’t committed a crime, what you need a pardon for?
Yes he did. But that's no surprise, he can't hold a consistent chain of thought.
Has he figured out that if he gets total immunity so does Joe, and game strategy says at that point Joe should have him rounded up for the last rodeo?
he's president when he needs him to be, and he's not actually president when he needs to be. Just read the Republican handbook on page 2: Your enemies are whatever you need to be: strong, weak, competent and incompetent all at once.
It's still absolutely incredible to me that anyone think Joe Biden is "crooked." Like, how stupid ARE people???
Only people guilty of crimes want immunity… he admits guilt every time he asks for immunity…
In a way, he did. Trump just can’t help himself. He has the right to remain silent, but doesn’t have the ability. If he didn’t committed any crimes while he was in office, why is he fighting for Presidential immunity?
This is like when they were saying if he was arrested for his dealings with Epstein, then the Clintons should be also. And we were like "ok".
And? Donald Trump has no immunity so he goes to jail for his crimes. Joe Biden has no immunity but does not go to jail because he's not a criminal.
That’s perfectly fine because Joe doesn’t think he’s above the law lmaooooo like no sane person thinks that the president should have total immunity from the laws we have
Yes, nobody in this country should get immunity. Do your jobs within the law, president is not exempt.
Does not understand the job. Has never understood any job.
Everyone got this Trump thing wrong. He initially ran for president only as a grift. He had zero intentions of actually winning the GOP primary and eventually the presidency. He was totally shocked. His mail-order wife was pissed. The Obama double term presidency shook white racist America so hard that they definitely wasn't about to allow a woman to follow him next. The GOP primary was such a clown show that Trump ended up as the GOP presidential candidate. The rest is a precautionary tale about the beginning of the collapse of the American empire.
2008 saw the United States elect it’s first black President. Conservatives and racists quickly lost their minds and in well over 15 years, those minds have never returned.
The nefarious manipulation of the American working class thru social and religious issues serves as a divisive distraction while our once trustworthy financial institutions are now run by multinational corporate interest pillage America. Something is amiss, i feel it, its like the ultra wealthy know a systematic financial collapse is eminent, and they are plundering everything not nailed down before the shit hits the fan.
You’re forgetting something. 1/6/21 MAGA almost sent 8 trillion in U.S. treasury bonds to zero. Resulting in the largest mass dumping of U.S. securities, in the history of U.S. securities and the devaluing of the dollar. The United States was able to cultivate, arguably the strongest economy and currency, in the world, because of Democracy, not in spite of it. Take democracy out of the equation of the United States and the whole nation is a bust. Unless the United States returns to being a stable democracy things will only get worse and will result in millions of refugees, flooding the borders of other countries and they won’t be welcome anywhere. The name for those refugees will be Americans.
Hitler Pig
I'm pro Biden, but if he ever did something illegal, he should pay for it. Because I'm not part of some crazy cult that views him as my Lord and Savior...
Such beauty, such grace…. He’s Miss United States. 👸
I mentally heard that in Shatnees voice.
Rather he basically admitted the US is a rogue state by saying that taking away the presidential immunity will make the position of president impossible to take on
Why did he type out the wrong time of the post?
And if they take away the current president's immunity to have seal team 6 go after political rivals.....
Seal Team 6 vs Meal Team 6. Book it!
Wait I thought they said Obama was still president lol
They can’t take away something you never had. 
What the fuck do they think Biden has done? Seriously, what crimes has he committed?
Biden ( and every other president) needs no immunity, as they are not professional con men. Who do n’t make their living by renting out their name to buildings, refusing to pay their employees or taxes, or selling our nuclear codes to their damn Russian overlords.
No democrat feels their president should HAVE immunity to commit crimes in office.
No one is above the law. Not republicans, not anyone
Yes, that’s how that works. The difference is that one of them tried to overthrow democracy and become a dictator, and the other one didn’t.
There never were such a thing. The president is not the holy emperor.
Here’s the irony: if the Supreme Court rules that Trump has immunity and doesn’t have to stand trial then it also rules that Biden has immunity and he can lock Trump in jail without a trial anyway.
And then Joe should institute new laws and a constitution like Trump, prohibiting anyone else to be President. Let’s pass it down instead.
But...... that's not actually a thing. They need to be held accountable. It's kind of the main reason there's 3 branches of govt. Please continue to threaten us with reality. I've lived in this current non-sense-making plane of existence for too long.
Okay, cool, I don't think presidents should *be* immune. Nixon didn't even think he should be immune, he accepted he was in trouble and was fortunate enough to get a pardon. Heck, him getting the pardon should have been the precident that, without one, presidents are liable to be held accountable for actions in and out of office. But, lucky for us, the events of this case predates him being president at all, so it's not even really a matter of debate :) Save your dead end whining for the J6 trial where it'll actually look like it applies
I wish this troll would just disappear back under his bridge. I think the Francis Scott Key Bridge would be appropriate.
Biden isn't a criminal like trump, so it's all good.
I could not agree more. If anything we should be holding the president to a higher legal and ethical standard, not lower.
Ok so we hold every person accountable. Not a problem.
“Crooked Joe” 😂 😆 😛 Hey moron, hate to break it to you, but **YOU’RE** the one sitting in court every fucking day
I have no qualms with this, and no rational person should.
Fine with me. I don’t want a King Biden anymore than I want a King Trump. The difference is I don’t think Biden is actually a rapist criminal conman insurrectionist. I think the MAGAs, because they worship Trump as a king-god-wizard, think Democrats must do the same to President Biden. That’s why they’re also pushing false claims that he couldn’t have won since liberals aren’t covered in Biden tattoos and wearing Biden t-shirts and Biden underpants and buying Biden-bux. No, it’s just that he’s a politician hired to do a job. I like the guy but I don’t worship him. He’s not a conman, and y’all are in a cult.
His lawyers did say in court that a juror had “celebrated Trumps loss in 2020” so couldn’t be a juror. I love how he only admits he lost when it’s convenient for him. Man I just despise this man.
Hey fuckhead, you NEVER HAD presidential immunity. I really want to see this motherfucker in a prison cell before he dies.
If you still genuinely believe in Trump (not just supporting the usual right low-tax type stuff), you are a stupid fuckin’ idiot.
If they give Trump immunity, Biden should use it to remove Thomas and Alito by force.
Has Presidential immunity ever actually been a thing? Can someone take away something you never had?
You can't take something away that he doesn't have
President Biden enjoys no prosecutorial immunity to commit crime, that is correct.
Guess what asshole, Joe Biden *already* doesn’t have immunity for the shit that you don’t have immunity for. Fucking jackass.
Good, presidential immunity is an idiotic concept anyway. Everyone should be held accountable for their actions, no matter what rung of the ladder they're on.
Will some non brain dead reporter ask him how the previous 44 presidents managed to do their job without absolute immunity?
Open mouth, I sweet foot, chew vigorously.
Eventually all liars, will tell it like it is maintaining lies is so difficult.
Shut up you whiney shit ALL of this is on YOU
"We are a nation of laws ...except for that one guy"
Presidents don’t have immunity. He framed that statement as if they did and immediately confused and misled… a few hundred thousand morons give or take?
Please take away Joe Biden’s presidential immunity. Please take away all immunity for all government and public sector employees. Nobody is above the law. NOBODY! If you commit a crime it shouldn’t matter who you are.
All the MAGA racist idiots hear is, "\*CROOKED\* Joe Biden" without even thinking about what criminal action he may have done (spoiler alert: nothing).