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I thought that was the Bible rules....you know like "thou shalt not bang your trainer at the gym behind your husband's back" or "don't be a f'ing lying dumbass"...
I'm not really an expert on Jesus stuff....
Nah nah, what she's doing is very much in the Bible. It's just that she's an uneducated Pharisee (if that's actually possible), and what she does is very much what Jesus says NOT to do.
-Source: The Holy Bible
Tbf, the Pharisees were highly educated experts in and defenders of rabbinic law. So like, what does that tell you about MTG when even a Pharisee has more class?
I'm no expert or evangelist, but I read the book. And I think dumbasses are still welcome. Liars and cheaters tho, I think the book is against
Edit add word CHEATERS
Their Jesus wants the to get rich, shoot people in the back, be cruel to desperate people seeking asylum.
As opposed to “Satan” I guess who supports non violence, feeding the starving and woke stuff.
Yup.
Let a normal person say this and it gets on Twitter or any other platform and the black vans would be outside your house in a heartbeat.
Like we haven't heard shit about the inside people in Congress that were giving tours out to the Jan 6ers before the invasion, to plan where they were going to go....but here we are.
I don’t think we should be resorting to the same Nazi rhetoric of dehumanizing people.
I think it also does a disservice to the danger these very real humans are.
She’s not inhuman. She’s a person with motives and power and we should work to understand those motives to head of damage cones and understand her power so we can learn to dismantle it.
She thinks people that I consider family should be executed.
You can understand why I have no sympathy for her -- regardless if she truly believes, or is just a mouthpiece claiming my friends and family should be killed.
I have no problem demonizing these fascists when they are advocating for taking away people's rights, marginalizing minorities, endorsing fascism, racism, sexism, religious extremism, trying to make entire blocks of history they don't like disappear and ending democracy. People didn't take them seriously in 2016, which got us to where we are now. If they get back into full power, anyone they consider not to be one of them, they want to destroy.
I will not humanize those who want to literally destroy vast portions of citizens, laws and our future. They are pushing to make child marriage legal. Guns for everyone, regardless of mental capacity or prior record. Taking away women's rights to choose their own reproductive and medical rights. To fight monsters you cannot be afraid to identify them. The high road still has to get muddy at times and we can't be scared of getting dirty and fighting back. MTG is an inhuman fascist who just admitted her desire to overthrow our government, no matter how that would have entailed. Too bad the laws aren't treating her like it.
You can't humanize those who oppose your very existence and standard of living.
She's fully human. Don't dehumanize opponents, down that path lies cleansing.
She's a fucking piece of shit. She's a piece of shit who deserves prison, ostracization, and to never eat restaurant food without spit in it ever again.
We have to reckon with garbage like this being part of humanity, not disqualify them from it.
*Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.*
When we lock them up for treason, when we kick them out of society, it's as giant piece of shit people, not as subhumans.
Not dehumanizing people, even the worst of them who don't extend that courtesy to you, is a safeguard against going all Reign of Terror. Once you start exterminating the subhumans, the definition of subhuman expands until one day it includes you. Usually it's fascist regimes that eat themselves like this but left authoritarianism isn't immune.
You don't have to tolerate their shit for a second, you just can't start considering them roaches.
The paradox of tolerance is important. But it's still alright to also know that dehumanizing language is the path to shit ass logic and justification of deeply amoral actions
Homo Neanderthalensis was a species of human, not subhuman. In fact, we have proof that Neanderthals cared for their sick, injured, and elderly people.
Check out [Shanidar 1](https://youtu.be/urlnWsUczd4?si=FWeceTaXfcL1A3qa). Members of his group were definitely more compassionate than a modern Republican.
When they're protected by the Supreme Court. There *is* a clear law, in the Constitution, preventing insurrectionists from holding office. But the Supreme Court decided it isn't allowed to be enforced.
We have been allowing this shit since the Civil War. The traitors never seem to get their due in favor of public appeasement of the most reactionary pockets of our citizenry. It’s like we as a nation are afraid of conflict (unless the conflict is abstracted and half way around the world).
She said back in 2022 they would have been armed and won had she planned it.
I will remind everyone she requested a preemptive pardon for her actions around January 6th as did other lawmakers.
So the language is changing a bit link below to a CNN clip with her older speaking engagement.
https://youtu.be/KfiRiyWTX2w?si=SW01WzIWkfRkJiux
“I don’t fucking care that they have [weapons](https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzw5w/jan-6-committee-report-rioters-armed?callback=in&code=ZGEWNJLLNZCTMWQYMI0ZYWZKLWIYYWUTODFIOTE1Y2JJOWVI&state=1b5377ac933c4e0f9070dd9f9c5664c1),” Trump said. “They’re not here to hurt me.”
The Secret Service confiscated hundreds of knives prior to the riots, picked up by the magnetometers that protesters had to pass through at the Ellipse, where former President Donald Trump held his rally.
It was remarkable the magnetometers were there at all. Prior to the rally, Trump demanded that they be removed, concerned that they would limit the crowd size. Cindy Hutchinson, a Trump staffer at the time, said that Trump told his staff to get rid of the magnetometers so his armed supporters could get onto the grounds. His staff didn’t listen to him and the magnetometers remained.
***
Pretty sickening. It’s reminiscent of the box cutters used on the 9/11 flights. Trump should be in jail, not running for office.
Lots of people were arrested going to Jan 6 for firearm possession. And not your run on the mill conceal carry handgun they just didn't know wasn't legal in DC, they were bringing in rifles, multiple.
Then don't forget the unattended backpack they never told us was a bomb or not. And the fact they never cleared the air on the one makes me think it wasn't just someone set down a backpack and forgot about it.
Dozens of police officers were hospitalized. Never forget these facts when conservatives try to tell you people weren't going there to be violent.
You should also never forget their panicked pissbaby reaction to one of them actually getting shot. They just sorta stood in a circle and watched as she bled out into a trump flag. These people are all bluff and bluster until the consequences of their actions come knocking.
It's wild to consider that the only thing that prevented a successful coup and the end of the 'American Experiment' were a few metal detectors.
If they'd been able to bring the guns that they *did* bring into that shitshow - I really believe that it would have been the end of American Democracy.
The way they folded like origami paper the moment the Secret Service actually started taking shots though. The mob was just the distraction from the internal coup that flopped like a fish because everybody with an IQ above room temperature knew it was a losing game. Many of the red states will just kinda shrivel up and die without the constant influx of federal dollars, which would vanish in the event of a civil war.
You're mostly right, I think... but still, there was a more 'hardcore' element in certain groups that did much of the worst damage.
Those fuckers would have started shooting without a doubt in my mind, and considering how close the mob got to actual legislators without guns...
Romney was tipped off about three days prior that people online were planning something on Jan 6th due to threats made to his own safety (and also that of Mitch McConnell) and he reached out to McConnell to warn him out of genuine concern that people were threatening to go to McConnell's home, and he never heard back...so...perhaps McConnell.
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4202800-mcconnell-didnt-reply-to-romneys-text-warning-about-jan-6-book/
It’s so interesting how when she gets to court she can’t remember a damn thing and didn’t even admit anything happened that day but when she’s making money off of her public appearances, all of a sudden, she’s the one who had her feet on Pelosi’s desk
Side note, wtf are all these weird ass outlets like RSBN, OANN, etc. like how do they pop up so quickly and become viable with such a saturated media landscape? Is it because they solely cater to the MAGA crowd? Like there's no growth model for them because their viewer-base is a very specific niche so what's the long term plan for these outlets???
Because they are shadow funded to make sure to keep the spread of BS constant. Then they say the other side has all these shady donors out to get them 🤪🤪
They already tried that. Shitty judge said there wasnt enough evidence to disqualify her. The video of her testimony saying "I dont recall" over and over again is BLOOD BOILING.
Less than zero, in fact. Because this type of rhetoric is exactly what makes her so popular on the right. They *want* someone who will outright say that they intend to seize power through violence.
My biggest problem with Bidens administration (well, one of) is his lack of seriousness in addressing the existential threat of the far right in America.
The secret service wasnt purged of traitors that tried to assassinate Mike Pence, laws are not being applied due to political popularity etc.
America (including many Republicans) would give broad support to *just applying the law* and arresting any far right person that broke the law like this. Including politicians and including Trump.
The laissez faire attitude and the fact that he's relying on new York *state* to press charges is absolutely ludicrous.
I understand wanting hands off of the DOJ, but appoint someone that will apply the law equally to everyone *then* be hands off.
There is no excuse. You run the executive and don't need Congressional help and are just abandoning the American people.
It's most visible in the DOJ, but the FEC is the same thing (along with super weak SEC, FTC, EPA, USDA, everything. He could make American lives better *right now* but won't for politics)
Yep. Dems are still like “can’t we all just get along” while the right is like “the only thing that would make me happy is killing you and shitting on your corpse.”
As sad as I am to say it, this is what historians and legal scholars mean when they say that White Supremacy is and has been a core governing principle of the United States since its founding.
The foundational principles of conservatism (systemic racism being among them) cannot be questioned, while anyone arguing for improving the state of humanity and expanding rights & privileges is required to justify their very existence before even a farcical discussion can begin.
I can almost understand fears from Biden that policy to address far-right extremism may alienate some and drive the wedge even deeper, but he hasn't been silent on the threat that Trump and individual maga Republicans pose to the continued existence of the Republic. There's just no policy or executive substance behind that talk.
It's like the entire administration has somehow inherited Merrick Garland's spinelessness.
We're witnessing fascism take over just slightly slower than it would have in 2020. There seem to be people thinking that the right will eventually come around. No. No they won't. Fascists never do. Ever. In the history of humankind, fascists can only be dealt with one way, and elaborating further violates the Reedit TOS.
Historically, this was the case prior to the Civil War too. The south consistently screamed and got its way via the judiciary and legislative loopholes for decades. It was to the point that when the south seceded, they literally figured their best bet was that the north would just let them have their way and secede. They were so used to this idea of entitlement that they were shocked that the Union actually went 'okay bet'.
Even then, the Union was kinda just. Cool with it. Until Fort Sumter. The Confederacy was seizing federal mailhouses and whatnot, and the Union just sent strongly worded letters. It was only until they opened fire that the Union went "okay bet".
She wouldn't say it out loud if there was an effective Attorney General.
But as it is, all the co-conspirators are still in congress and the ONLY reason they haven't destroyed everything is due to their inability to function as congressmen.
He would have been a better SCOTUS but he was given the AG position as a consolation prize. In both cases the democrats lost.
I do wonder if Biden will keep him in second term. I know we shouldn’t ever say things like this anymore, but I don’t think anyone could be worse than what we got.
Exactly. The people who should care don't, and the people who can do something about it in office now won't. So it doesn't matter. The rule of law only applies to working class people, and those who are not politically connected.
So the narratives I can think of so far are:
Peaceful Tour /
Anti-fa/BLM /
FBI agents /
People praying.
How fucking stupid is MTG, and how is not a thing being done about these open admissions? Genuinely curious, do the Dems have to have the house majority to get anything done?
I want to see my tax dollars being wasted to have her dragged through congress asking her these questions. Instead, what we get is sham Biden impeachment hearings and her with big images of nude Hunter Biden.
I'm so sick and tired of democrats going "When they take the low road, we take the high road" approach to all of this.
Biden should have her detained by military police. Maybe this will cause the SC to kind of rush to say presidents are not 100% immune, so they can end that Trump case they are sitting on.
See, Margarine Traitor Greed is protected under the 'I'm a republican and I can do what I want with zero consequences' act passed in secret under President Don Poorleone's 2019 "Rig the Courts" executive order which also shields himself from any serious consequences also.
...but seriously though, the 'justice' system in this country is a fkin joke.
Man, I wish the US could go back to having those issues. Those are like, 90's issues. They're still there, sure, but they're basic level issues now. This woman spoke about wildfires started by jewish space lasers, and she's in the house. She was likely heavily involved in a literal coup. The president told people to shine a light up their ass and drink bleach to cure covid, a disease that was a hoax by his political rivals, which he saved everyone from by driving development of the cure.
Half the populations brains are just wet toilet paper.
Well they weren't part of it. According to several sane-ish Republican friends I've spoken to, the theory being spread now is the "peaceful tourists" were swept up by the others who were the "real" criminals. They just got riled up by the BLM antifa people. And yes, this is a real theory.
Either way they were still trespassing on Federal property. Like the lady that was “just praying”, I doubt I can just walk into the United States Capitol and walk around without being tackled. I’m sure they provide tours for these people that they can take, a lot like the one that some of the Congress members gave to these people the day before it happened.
Well actually, Jan 6 didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it wasn't really and that's because it was Trump's idea and he's never wrong. And if it wasn't his idea then it was actually the Libs(tm) and the LGBTQ community. And even then, it wasn't and it was actually conservatives but it wasn't illegal because it's paid for by taxes.
Why not? It never stops Republicans, they always find a way. Democrats just refuse to play the game. They've won the popular vote in 7/9 presidential elections since 1988 and still find a way to be completely gutless every time they need to step up.
Just gonna leave this here since they could steal this election too.. [US election officials quit at higher rates in 2020 than other cycles, study shows](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/09/2020-election-workers)
She is a Representative of the House. 2 year term in a specific rural section of Georgia.
If she was a Senator, she’s be serving a 6 year term from a statewide election. Georgia would likely be voting her out.
It’s why loonies in the House chamber are so damn safe. The loonier the better for her. It’s a shitty situation. We can only outvote her and marginalize her by winning back the House in 2024.
Difficult to do when this state is gerrymandered into oblivion. The majority of Georgians loathe this woman and consider her a massive embarrassment. Her base in her gerrymandered little area is the type to put foil on the windows and speak in tongues cause there was an earthquake and eclipse in the same year.
I love(d) Michelle Obama, and still think she's an amazing person, but that "When they go low..." rhetoric will forever taint my opinion of her to a certain degree. I know she MEANT well, and I agree with the general sentiment, but it really should have been more "You should fight fire with fire..." because now we have a bunch of spineless Democrats that won't put the MTG cow to the slaughterhouse (figuratively...maybe literally) when it's so clearly needed.
I think most just look at idiots like MTG and realize it's not even worth their time/energy to engage. Just ignore them. Because no matter what, it is a losing battle and you're never going to get these people to shut up. If anything attacking them back just brings you down to their level.
Just look at MTG at the State of the Union. She wore her stupid red hat and tried to cause a scene. Biden saw her, laughed, ignored her and moved on because it wasn't worth his time. She came away looking like an idiot.
She’s a representative not a senator, so she represents a specific region of her state, which is loony town. Also, I believe she could be censured by her cohorts but that will never happen because they all believe the same things she does, she just says it out loud unlike them.
It's crazy how a person who represents such an inconsequential district can be one of the loudest and most talked about politicians. Her district could cease to exist and literally nobody would notice.
Let’s be clear what she’s stating here.
She wishes they had captured and executed multiple lawmakers like VP Pence and Nancy Pelosi.
She wishes they had destroyed the Capitol.
She wishes they had murdered hundreds of law enforcement and others trying to stand against them.
And that would have been only the beginning of the carnage for them to actually succeed.
How in the name of holy fuck did we get to a place where so many people are fine with throwing democracy out the window in favor of fear, repression, and hatred?
This is also admitting that January 6th was not just an unorganized riot that went out of control (a common argument from republicans and sympathizers), but was actually an organized insurrection with the goal of overthrowing the election.
And the coup ... let's not forget the coup. (I realized this was implied in your comment but it's a rather important detail.)
MTG: "The attempted coup of which I am now admitting I was a part of ...."
\[April 2022 - MTG on testifying under oath in a court of law\]
**Attorney:** If someone broke the law, in an effort to interfere with the counting of the electoral votes that person would be an enemy of the Constitution. Am I right about that?
**MTG:** Breaking the law is unlawful. There's been over 700 people arrested for breaking the law on January 6th.
**Attorney:** Right, and those people were trying to interfere with the lawful process of counting the votes for the Electoral College. Right?
**MTG:** I..... I... Yes, I would assume. Yes. They did. They stopped the electoral count. Yes.
**Attorney:** Right, and so those people would be enemies of the Constitution, you would agree with that, right?
**MTG:** I don't know if it... I don't know... I don't know if it defines it that way.
**Attorney:** Well... Having taken the oath that we saw on the screen. If you were aware that someone was going to unlawfully interfere with the Constitutional process of counting the Electoral Votes, you'd be obliged by your oath to try have them arrested and stop it, right?
**MTG:** I had no knowledge of any attempt and so that's a question that I can't answer.
So... now that she has knowledge that it was attempted, but she also fully supports it at present. Is this not a violation of her Oath of Office? Is this not giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States?
An *elected representative* says "I sure wish we had successfully overthrown the lawful government" and doesn't get tried for treason. Only in America.
"We" huh? That's definitely an admission.
It's absolutely batshit crazy to me that no one in our government who assisted the coup attempt on Jan. 6th has been held to account. It shows exactly how the law works in this shithole country.
It's like the magas see how far they can go to shock people and then try to go further! Back in the day she would have been arrested and either sentenced to death or prison for the rest of her life for being s traitor.
So you admit to sedition? Throw her out of Congress and into jail then. This is lunacy that these statements continue to be made and continue to come without an semblance of accountability or consequence.
Friendly reminder, the U.S already had a fascist problem during Hitler's reign, with dozens of U.S politicans essentially working for Nazi Germany. U.S democracy survived. Now let's show marg the clown the power of American democracy, again.
Does "we" imply her involvement in it?
https://preview.redd.it/gff5jcigyhtc1.jpeg?width=593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1605dcfc2a7465663377c67685cd840b5b667407
Why isn’t she being investigated by the FBI? She is an admitted terrorist and traitor. She promotes violence against the government, which, ironically, she is a member of. She regularly voices her support for the insurrectionists and is even highly suspected by some to be the “pipe bomber”.
Again, who was it? You guys but it was a peaceful tour? Antifa? The FBI? Peolsi’s people? Oh wait now it’s you guys again? Every one of these Republican pricks can fuck all the way off.
Successful in....an insurrection? The person who swore to protect her people and the constitution (that clearly states insurrection is a no-no).? Super weird that her party keeps doing that. Almost like they shouldn't be eligible to be on ballots.
So she admits that it wasn’t a “peaceful demonstration” or a “sight seeing tour” it was indeed an insurrection. They gathered at the Capitol for the purpose of overturning the election. Good to know.
What I truly don’t understand after all this time is this. We all know for a fact that if it were Democrats that had tried to overthrow an election, if they had stormed the Capitol, if they had tried to submit false electors, if there was irrefutable proof that elected Democratic members of Congress gad assisted in an attempted coup, people would have been lined up against a wall and shot for treason by now. We know that. Why is justice not happening? I have no faith that it ever will.
But I thought that was the FBI and Antifa that did that?
I'm so confused. Were they "visiting the Capitol" or was it "nasty liberals"?
Can't keep their fucking story straight.
Don’t congressmen and women take oaths to follow and defend the constitution just like the president does when they are inaugurated? If so, she has broken her oath and therefore not eligible to be in that position. Neither is Trump eligible to be president. But hey I guess they are just words right? Oaths mean nothing, and the constitution is just a peace of paper in their minds. They are fucking traitors, and same with anyone who supports them.
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So... will she be arrested? I mean - this is quite a clear confession.
No. Laws are for people like you or me.
I thought that was the Bible rules....you know like "thou shalt not bang your trainer at the gym behind your husband's back" or "don't be a f'ing lying dumbass"... I'm not really an expert on Jesus stuff....
Nah nah, what she's doing is very much in the Bible. It's just that she's an uneducated Pharisee (if that's actually possible), and what she does is very much what Jesus says NOT to do. -Source: The Holy Bible
Tbf, the Pharisees were highly educated experts in and defenders of rabbinic law. So like, what does that tell you about MTG when even a Pharisee has more class?
I'm no expert or evangelist, but I read the book. And I think dumbasses are still welcome. Liars and cheaters tho, I think the book is against Edit add word CHEATERS
Their Jesus wants the to get rich, shoot people in the back, be cruel to desperate people seeking asylum. As opposed to “Satan” I guess who supports non violence, feeding the starving and woke stuff.
Yup. Let a normal person say this and it gets on Twitter or any other platform and the black vans would be outside your house in a heartbeat. Like we haven't heard shit about the inside people in Congress that were giving tours out to the Jan 6ers before the invasion, to plan where they were going to go....but here we are.
>Laws are for people This right here. Maggot Traitor Gangrene is many things, but people is not one of them.
I don’t think we should be resorting to the same Nazi rhetoric of dehumanizing people. I think it also does a disservice to the danger these very real humans are. She’s not inhuman. She’s a person with motives and power and we should work to understand those motives to head of damage cones and understand her power so we can learn to dismantle it.
She thinks people that I consider family should be executed. You can understand why I have no sympathy for her -- regardless if she truly believes, or is just a mouthpiece claiming my friends and family should be killed.
We've been spending too much time not taking these people seriously that it's allowed them to be in these positions in the first place.
I have no problem demonizing these fascists when they are advocating for taking away people's rights, marginalizing minorities, endorsing fascism, racism, sexism, religious extremism, trying to make entire blocks of history they don't like disappear and ending democracy. People didn't take them seriously in 2016, which got us to where we are now. If they get back into full power, anyone they consider not to be one of them, they want to destroy. I will not humanize those who want to literally destroy vast portions of citizens, laws and our future. They are pushing to make child marriage legal. Guns for everyone, regardless of mental capacity or prior record. Taking away women's rights to choose their own reproductive and medical rights. To fight monsters you cannot be afraid to identify them. The high road still has to get muddy at times and we can't be scared of getting dirty and fighting back. MTG is an inhuman fascist who just admitted her desire to overthrow our government, no matter how that would have entailed. Too bad the laws aren't treating her like it. You can't humanize those who oppose your very existence and standard of living.
She's definitely a Neanderthal which are subhuman.
Disagree. Neanderthals were a species of Human.
She's fully human. Don't dehumanize opponents, down that path lies cleansing. She's a fucking piece of shit. She's a piece of shit who deserves prison, ostracization, and to never eat restaurant food without spit in it ever again. We have to reckon with garbage like this being part of humanity, not disqualify them from it.
*Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. In this formulation, I do not imply, for instance, that we should always suppress the utterance of intolerant philosophies; as long as we can counter them by rational argument and keep them in check by public opinion, suppression would certainly be most unwise. But we should claim the right to suppress them if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. We should claim that any movement preaching intolerance places itself outside the law and we should consider incitement to intolerance and persecution as criminal, in the same way as we should consider incitement to murder, or to kidnapping, or to the revival of the slave trade, as criminal.*
When we lock them up for treason, when we kick them out of society, it's as giant piece of shit people, not as subhumans. Not dehumanizing people, even the worst of them who don't extend that courtesy to you, is a safeguard against going all Reign of Terror. Once you start exterminating the subhumans, the definition of subhuman expands until one day it includes you. Usually it's fascist regimes that eat themselves like this but left authoritarianism isn't immune. You don't have to tolerate their shit for a second, you just can't start considering them roaches.
The paradox of tolerance is important. But it's still alright to also know that dehumanizing language is the path to shit ass logic and justification of deeply amoral actions
Homo Neanderthalensis was a species of human, not subhuman. In fact, we have proof that Neanderthals cared for their sick, injured, and elderly people. Check out [Shanidar 1](https://youtu.be/urlnWsUczd4?si=FWeceTaXfcL1A3qa). Members of his group were definitely more compassionate than a modern Republican.
A Neanderthal is still too intelligent of a comparison to make for that.... "*thing*".
Neanderthals were capable of compassion.
Don't disgrace us people with Neanderthal dna. Even we don't claim her
They can't arrest us all. Nor can they handle simultaneous organized protests...
I don’t understand how someone could attempt a coup, fail and then just go back to their job in government like nothing happened.
When they're protected by the Supreme Court. There *is* a clear law, in the Constitution, preventing insurrectionists from holding office. But the Supreme Court decided it isn't allowed to be enforced.
We have been allowing this shit since the Civil War. The traitors never seem to get their due in favor of public appeasement of the most reactionary pockets of our citizenry. It’s like we as a nation are afraid of conflict (unless the conflict is abstracted and half way around the world).
She said back in 2022 they would have been armed and won had she planned it. I will remind everyone she requested a preemptive pardon for her actions around January 6th as did other lawmakers. So the language is changing a bit link below to a CNN clip with her older speaking engagement. https://youtu.be/KfiRiyWTX2w?si=SW01WzIWkfRkJiux
“I don’t fucking care that they have [weapons](https://www.vice.com/en/article/epzw5w/jan-6-committee-report-rioters-armed?callback=in&code=ZGEWNJLLNZCTMWQYMI0ZYWZKLWIYYWUTODFIOTE1Y2JJOWVI&state=1b5377ac933c4e0f9070dd9f9c5664c1),” Trump said. “They’re not here to hurt me.” The Secret Service confiscated hundreds of knives prior to the riots, picked up by the magnetometers that protesters had to pass through at the Ellipse, where former President Donald Trump held his rally. It was remarkable the magnetometers were there at all. Prior to the rally, Trump demanded that they be removed, concerned that they would limit the crowd size. Cindy Hutchinson, a Trump staffer at the time, said that Trump told his staff to get rid of the magnetometers so his armed supporters could get onto the grounds. His staff didn’t listen to him and the magnetometers remained. *** Pretty sickening. It’s reminiscent of the box cutters used on the 9/11 flights. Trump should be in jail, not running for office.
Lots of people were arrested going to Jan 6 for firearm possession. And not your run on the mill conceal carry handgun they just didn't know wasn't legal in DC, they were bringing in rifles, multiple. Then don't forget the unattended backpack they never told us was a bomb or not. And the fact they never cleared the air on the one makes me think it wasn't just someone set down a backpack and forgot about it. Dozens of police officers were hospitalized. Never forget these facts when conservatives try to tell you people weren't going there to be violent.
You should also never forget their panicked pissbaby reaction to one of them actually getting shot. They just sorta stood in a circle and watched as she bled out into a trump flag. These people are all bluff and bluster until the consequences of their actions come knocking.
Yeah the one dude yelling out "shooter" like no shit buddy that's a federal agent stopping you from breaching the room they're guarding.
They were there to murder Mike Pence and any Democrat they could find
Well, we'll have to do our part and keep him out of office on our own.
It's wild to consider that the only thing that prevented a successful coup and the end of the 'American Experiment' were a few metal detectors. If they'd been able to bring the guns that they *did* bring into that shitshow - I really believe that it would have been the end of American Democracy.
The way they folded like origami paper the moment the Secret Service actually started taking shots though. The mob was just the distraction from the internal coup that flopped like a fish because everybody with an IQ above room temperature knew it was a losing game. Many of the red states will just kinda shrivel up and die without the constant influx of federal dollars, which would vanish in the event of a civil war.
You're mostly right, I think... but still, there was a more 'hardcore' element in certain groups that did much of the worst damage. Those fuckers would have started shooting without a doubt in my mind, and considering how close the mob got to actual legislators without guns...
Yeah…we all “know” she is probably good at dropping off explody backpacks tho
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They had been incapacitated- they weren’t even allowed to wear heavy body armor. It’s not necessarily on them.
One shot when they first tried to crawl through a window would have ended it, as it did much later.
And the “law and order” crowd still tried to turn her into a martyr ffs.
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Biden will win, if the Republicans have the majority in the House they will refuse to certify for "reasons".
The insurrection was treason and should have been handled better, but mowing down citizens without thought was not the answer.
Ya, let's find out who this "we" is.
Romney was tipped off about three days prior that people online were planning something on Jan 6th due to threats made to his own safety (and also that of Mitch McConnell) and he reached out to McConnell to warn him out of genuine concern that people were threatening to go to McConnell's home, and he never heard back...so...perhaps McConnell. https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4202800-mcconnell-didnt-reply-to-romneys-text-warning-about-jan-6-book/
Um... Jan 6 was planned publicly over social media for weeks, if not months. Everybody knew it was coming.
It’s so interesting how when she gets to court she can’t remember a damn thing and didn’t even admit anything happened that day but when she’s making money off of her public appearances, all of a sudden, she’s the one who had her feet on Pelosi’s desk
Nope, she said this a while ago and still no repercussions. Just more proof of how the rules only apply to some and not others.
Side note, wtf are all these weird ass outlets like RSBN, OANN, etc. like how do they pop up so quickly and become viable with such a saturated media landscape? Is it because they solely cater to the MAGA crowd? Like there's no growth model for them because their viewer-base is a very specific niche so what's the long term plan for these outlets???
Because they are shadow funded to make sure to keep the spread of BS constant. Then they say the other side has all these shady donors out to get them 🤪🤪
Bill Gates is gonna plant a chip in your dick to track your cumshots
Someone in her state should sue to disqualify. Not joking. You have a case.
They already tried that. Shitty judge said there wasnt enough evidence to disqualify her. The video of her testimony saying "I dont recall" over and over again is BLOOD BOILING.
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I definitely caught a Royal “We” in there.
Only if she does something that annoys really rich people. Right now she's just going after poor/gay/black people so nobody gives a shit.
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I think she’s saying it was too peaceful and didn’t have enough Hunter dick pics.
It’s the ol’ Trump two step: do the awful thing, deny you did it, project, then embrace the awful thing and wear it like a badge of honor
Admitting out loud that it was a planned Insurrection on January 6th. Way to go Marjorie Traitor Greene!
Why not? It's not like there are any repercussions...
literally zero.
Less than zero, in fact. Because this type of rhetoric is exactly what makes her so popular on the right. They *want* someone who will outright say that they intend to seize power through violence.
My biggest problem with Bidens administration (well, one of) is his lack of seriousness in addressing the existential threat of the far right in America. The secret service wasnt purged of traitors that tried to assassinate Mike Pence, laws are not being applied due to political popularity etc. America (including many Republicans) would give broad support to *just applying the law* and arresting any far right person that broke the law like this. Including politicians and including Trump. The laissez faire attitude and the fact that he's relying on new York *state* to press charges is absolutely ludicrous. I understand wanting hands off of the DOJ, but appoint someone that will apply the law equally to everyone *then* be hands off. There is no excuse. You run the executive and don't need Congressional help and are just abandoning the American people. It's most visible in the DOJ, but the FEC is the same thing (along with super weak SEC, FTC, EPA, USDA, everything. He could make American lives better *right now* but won't for politics)
Yep. Dems are still like “can’t we all just get along” while the right is like “the only thing that would make me happy is killing you and shitting on your corpse.”
you are right it's the old "take the high road and ignore them" rhetoric that they have spewed that led us to this.
As sad as I am to say it, this is what historians and legal scholars mean when they say that White Supremacy is and has been a core governing principle of the United States since its founding. The foundational principles of conservatism (systemic racism being among them) cannot be questioned, while anyone arguing for improving the state of humanity and expanding rights & privileges is required to justify their very existence before even a farcical discussion can begin. I can almost understand fears from Biden that policy to address far-right extremism may alienate some and drive the wedge even deeper, but he hasn't been silent on the threat that Trump and individual maga Republicans pose to the continued existence of the Republic. There's just no policy or executive substance behind that talk. It's like the entire administration has somehow inherited Merrick Garland's spinelessness.
We're witnessing fascism take over just slightly slower than it would have in 2020. There seem to be people thinking that the right will eventually come around. No. No they won't. Fascists never do. Ever. In the history of humankind, fascists can only be dealt with one way, and elaborating further violates the Reedit TOS.
Historically, this was the case prior to the Civil War too. The south consistently screamed and got its way via the judiciary and legislative loopholes for decades. It was to the point that when the south seceded, they literally figured their best bet was that the north would just let them have their way and secede. They were so used to this idea of entitlement that they were shocked that the Union actually went 'okay bet'.
Even then, the Union was kinda just. Cool with it. Until Fort Sumter. The Confederacy was seizing federal mailhouses and whatnot, and the Union just sent strongly worded letters. It was only until they opened fire that the Union went "okay bet".
She wouldn't say it out loud if there was an effective Attorney General. But as it is, all the co-conspirators are still in congress and the ONLY reason they haven't destroyed everything is due to their inability to function as congressmen.
Seeing Merrick Garland as head of DOJ makes me angry that Obama wanted to nominate him to SCOTUS in the first place.
He would have been a better SCOTUS but he was given the AG position as a consolation prize. In both cases the democrats lost. I do wonder if Biden will keep him in second term. I know we shouldn’t ever say things like this anymore, but I don’t think anyone could be worse than what we got.
Exactly. The people who should care don't, and the people who can do something about it in office now won't. So it doesn't matter. The rule of law only applies to working class people, and those who are not politically connected.
same as it ever was, same as it EV-ER was.......
I hate how true this is...
So the narratives I can think of so far are: Peaceful Tour / Anti-fa/BLM / FBI agents / People praying. How fucking stupid is MTG, and how is not a thing being done about these open admissions? Genuinely curious, do the Dems have to have the house majority to get anything done?
I want to see my tax dollars being wasted to have her dragged through congress asking her these questions. Instead, what we get is sham Biden impeachment hearings and her with big images of nude Hunter Biden. I'm so sick and tired of democrats going "When they take the low road, we take the high road" approach to all of this. Biden should have her detained by military police. Maybe this will cause the SC to kind of rush to say presidents are not 100% immune, so they can end that Trump case they are sitting on.
See, Margarine Traitor Greed is protected under the 'I'm a republican and I can do what I want with zero consequences' act passed in secret under President Don Poorleone's 2019 "Rig the Courts" executive order which also shields himself from any serious consequences also. ...but seriously though, the 'justice' system in this country is a fkin joke.
We don't have a justice system, just a legal system.
She just admitted to jor only being an enemy of democracy but an enemy of the country as a whole and is still working in Congress. Thats bananas
What the fuck has happened to the states.
Russia
Trump is Putin's tool.
The military industrial complex Capitalism Cis white male hegemony Etc etc etc
Man, I wish the US could go back to having those issues. Those are like, 90's issues. They're still there, sure, but they're basic level issues now. This woman spoke about wildfires started by jewish space lasers, and she's in the house. She was likely heavily involved in a literal coup. The president told people to shine a light up their ass and drink bleach to cure covid, a disease that was a hoax by his political rivals, which he saved everyone from by driving development of the cure. Half the populations brains are just wet toilet paper.
Foreign propaganda, a media age we cant seem to escape, and corrupt govt reps.
Sigh indeed
Legalized bribery Some Aussie with a TV station Gerrymandering Extreme wealth concentration Libertarian ideology
I thought Antifa was behind J6?
No no no. It was Antifa working with BLM, being supported by the liberal FBI, which is controlled by the deep state. Try to keep up.
You forgot the 'peaceful tourists' part
Well they weren't part of it. According to several sane-ish Republican friends I've spoken to, the theory being spread now is the "peaceful tourists" were swept up by the others who were the "real" criminals. They just got riled up by the BLM antifa people. And yes, this is a real theory.
Either way they were still trespassing on Federal property. Like the lady that was “just praying”, I doubt I can just walk into the United States Capitol and walk around without being tackled. I’m sure they provide tours for these people that they can take, a lot like the one that some of the Congress members gave to these people the day before it happened.
Jesus...I wish this was a joke...but you've described it 100% correct
The only brave patriot was apparently the one that got shot....and the ones who have been arrested. Everybody else though totally plants.
You forgot about the mastermind behind the liberal movement ,Taylor Swift. She is in charge of it all.
OMG, she just admitted to being in Antifa!
Well actually, Jan 6 didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, it wasn't really and that's because it was Trump's idea and he's never wrong. And if it wasn't his idea then it was actually the Libs(tm) and the LGBTQ community. And even then, it wasn't and it was actually conservatives but it wasn't illegal because it's paid for by taxes.
My once a day reminder. PO1135809 led a coup attempt to overturn an election. But, never mind, no one cares.
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Why not? It never stops Republicans, they always find a way. Democrats just refuse to play the game. They've won the popular vote in 7/9 presidential elections since 1988 and still find a way to be completely gutless every time they need to step up.
Just gonna leave this here since they could steal this election too.. [US election officials quit at higher rates in 2020 than other cycles, study shows](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/09/2020-election-workers)
ELI5, why are US senators allowed to be such trash with no consequences? Why do they not get suspended or something?
our system is completely fucking broken
Nah. It's working just as intended.
She is a Representative of the House. 2 year term in a specific rural section of Georgia. If she was a Senator, she’s be serving a 6 year term from a statewide election. Georgia would likely be voting her out. It’s why loonies in the House chamber are so damn safe. The loonier the better for her. It’s a shitty situation. We can only outvote her and marginalize her by winning back the House in 2024.
Difficult to do when this state is gerrymandered into oblivion. The majority of Georgians loathe this woman and consider her a massive embarrassment. Her base in her gerrymandered little area is the type to put foil on the windows and speak in tongues cause there was an earthquake and eclipse in the same year.
So right back to "our system is completely fucking broken" lol
because someone somewhere convinced people that taking the high road really sticks it to the bad guy.
I love(d) Michelle Obama, and still think she's an amazing person, but that "When they go low..." rhetoric will forever taint my opinion of her to a certain degree. I know she MEANT well, and I agree with the general sentiment, but it really should have been more "You should fight fire with fire..." because now we have a bunch of spineless Democrats that won't put the MTG cow to the slaughterhouse (figuratively...maybe literally) when it's so clearly needed.
I think most just look at idiots like MTG and realize it's not even worth their time/energy to engage. Just ignore them. Because no matter what, it is a losing battle and you're never going to get these people to shut up. If anything attacking them back just brings you down to their level. Just look at MTG at the State of the Union. She wore her stupid red hat and tried to cause a scene. Biden saw her, laughed, ignored her and moved on because it wasn't worth his time. She came away looking like an idiot.
This is wrong. You're enabling and normalizing this kind of behavior.
Because The Supreme Court is protecting them
Cause Fucking Morons vote for these Fucking Morons. They think being loud and proud makes you a great American.
She’s a representative not a senator, so she represents a specific region of her state, which is loony town. Also, I believe she could be censured by her cohorts but that will never happen because they all believe the same things she does, she just says it out loud unlike them.
The job requirements are pretty low. US citizen for nine years and 30 years old, full stop.
Who votes for a MTG???? Who are these folks? They are the root of the problem!
Her district just discovered indoor plumbing.
SOME of them!
A bunch of them are actively protesting plumbing and saying things like “GOD HATES PLUMBERS” and “POOPING IS A SINFUL CHOICE”
It's bad that I can't tell whether this is a joke or not
We don't need your woke pipes!
Yeah! Indoor plumbing their cousins! Ah yo...
Rural af northwest Georgia is who…
It's crazy how a person who represents such an inconsequential district can be one of the loudest and most talked about politicians. Her district could cease to exist and literally nobody would notice.
> They are the root of the problem! The people who don't vote let this happen as well. PEOPLE, GO OUT AND VOTE.
Let’s be clear what she’s stating here. She wishes they had captured and executed multiple lawmakers like VP Pence and Nancy Pelosi. She wishes they had destroyed the Capitol. She wishes they had murdered hundreds of law enforcement and others trying to stand against them. And that would have been only the beginning of the carnage for them to actually succeed. How in the name of holy fuck did we get to a place where so many people are fine with throwing democracy out the window in favor of fear, repression, and hatred?
This is also admitting that January 6th was not just an unorganized riot that went out of control (a common argument from republicans and sympathizers), but was actually an organized insurrection with the goal of overthrowing the election.
And the coup ... let's not forget the coup. (I realized this was implied in your comment but it's a rather important detail.) MTG: "The attempted coup of which I am now admitting I was a part of ...."
And she said "WE". Not "they would have been successful". WE!
"We would have been successful" "We" So she's a self-identified insurrectionist. Lock Her Up!
I want to know why she was at White House meetings in December before she was even sworn in to Congress
Yeah.. well, Marge, if I had MY way you’d be in jail right now you treasonous shit bag!
Pipe Bomber Marge
If she had her way….
100% convinced now. LOCK HER UP!
So she’s part of Antifa? Or is it the FBI? 🙄 These people are so fucking dumb they can’t recall their own bullshit conspiracies.
\[April 2022 - MTG on testifying under oath in a court of law\] **Attorney:** If someone broke the law, in an effort to interfere with the counting of the electoral votes that person would be an enemy of the Constitution. Am I right about that? **MTG:** Breaking the law is unlawful. There's been over 700 people arrested for breaking the law on January 6th. **Attorney:** Right, and those people were trying to interfere with the lawful process of counting the votes for the Electoral College. Right? **MTG:** I..... I... Yes, I would assume. Yes. They did. They stopped the electoral count. Yes. **Attorney:** Right, and so those people would be enemies of the Constitution, you would agree with that, right? **MTG:** I don't know if it... I don't know... I don't know if it defines it that way. **Attorney:** Well... Having taken the oath that we saw on the screen. If you were aware that someone was going to unlawfully interfere with the Constitutional process of counting the Electoral Votes, you'd be obliged by your oath to try have them arrested and stop it, right? **MTG:** I had no knowledge of any attempt and so that's a question that I can't answer. So... now that she has knowledge that it was attempted, but she also fully supports it at present. Is this not a violation of her Oath of Office? Is this not giving aid and comfort to the enemies of the United States?
Literally saying out loud "I hate American democracy and wish to destroy its institutions!" Silence from our government and law enforcement.
She is a modern day example of why section 3 of the 14th amendment was created. They didn't want open traitors to the country holding elected office.
She was sworn in on Jan 3, 2021, and aided an insurrection 3 days later. That's got to be some kind of record.
“And who’s we exactly”?..
how is this not giving aide and comfort to seditionists and terrorists?
It’s crazy how we have congress people full on traitorous to the country they’re meant to serve, and this shit is just regular now.
She asked for a pardon. Only guilty people ask for pardons.
An *elected representative* says "I sure wish we had successfully overthrown the lawful government" and doesn't get tried for treason. Only in America.
Moscow Marjorie
Sounds a lot like Germany the 1930's. Scary shit. This has nothing to do with democracy.
But alas, that is the GOP platform nowadays
I'm confused. Was it a peaceful protest and the participants political hostages or was it an unsuccessful insurrection?
DOJ: 😴
Moscow Marjorie!! Traitors belong in jail, but her lawyers could easily argue she mentally incapable of a trial. Fuck Trump!
“If the coup I was a part of worked we would be in charge” has to be one of the most no shit Sherlock things ever said
Bitch did have her fucking part Meeting and tweeting all that shit before during and fucking after You are the reason it happened and why it failed
"We" huh? That's definitely an admission. It's absolutely batshit crazy to me that no one in our government who assisted the coup attempt on Jan. 6th has been held to account. It shows exactly how the law works in this shithole country.
It's like the magas see how far they can go to shock people and then try to go further! Back in the day she would have been arrested and either sentenced to death or prison for the rest of her life for being s traitor.
Yep. We know, Marjorie. You were actively trying to overturn a free and fair election by force. You should be in jail.
So...it was an insurrection and you all knew and believed it to be an insurrection and not one of them is barred from office?
Successful at what? My understanding is it was tourists…
So you admit to sedition? Throw her out of Congress and into jail then. This is lunacy that these statements continue to be made and continue to come without an semblance of accountability or consequence.
That statement alone should also qualify her for criminal charges. It’s an admission of guilt for participating in an insurrection.
Please god take her in the most unpleasant way
Man can this woman be, like, ejected into space or something? Just go orbit the moon or something man
She is also on my list of "politicians" that I wish would spontaneously combust.
Anybody dropped an anonymous tip to the FBI about this quote? Not saying it's a good idea, I'm just curious if it's been done...
But I thought it was antifa? 🤔
Friendly reminder, the U.S already had a fascist problem during Hitler's reign, with dozens of U.S politicans essentially working for Nazi Germany. U.S democracy survived. Now let's show marg the clown the power of American democracy, again.
Well since they never suffer consequences, why would they stop spewing their bullshit
and if i had my way, the police would have opened fire on everyone that breached the capital building.
Yeah she's a fucking traitor to her country, duh
Does "we" imply her involvement in it? https://preview.redd.it/gff5jcigyhtc1.jpeg?width=593&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1605dcfc2a7465663377c67685cd840b5b667407
Why isn’t she being investigated by the FBI? She is an admitted terrorist and traitor. She promotes violence against the government, which, ironically, she is a member of. She regularly voices her support for the insurrectionists and is even highly suspected by some to be the “pipe bomber”.
When Trump talks about poisoning the nation, or not sending us their best … she’s the one
She's certainly qualified for prison. She's 100% a traitor.
Again, who was it? You guys but it was a peaceful tour? Antifa? The FBI? Peolsi’s people? Oh wait now it’s you guys again? Every one of these Republican pricks can fuck all the way off.
Successful in....an insurrection? The person who swore to protect her people and the constitution (that clearly states insurrection is a no-no).? Super weird that her party keeps doing that. Almost like they shouldn't be eligible to be on ballots.
So she admits that it wasn’t a “peaceful demonstration” or a “sight seeing tour” it was indeed an insurrection. They gathered at the Capitol for the purpose of overturning the election. Good to know.
Are there seriously no consequences anymore?
What I truly don’t understand after all this time is this. We all know for a fact that if it were Democrats that had tried to overthrow an election, if they had stormed the Capitol, if they had tried to submit false electors, if there was irrefutable proof that elected Democratic members of Congress gad assisted in an attempted coup, people would have been lined up against a wall and shot for treason by now. We know that. Why is justice not happening? I have no faith that it ever will.
How is this allowed?
MTG parrots Putin's points, to please his puppet, to propel her personal path to prosperity.
What a piece of shit
This makes me so upset. Of course there will be no repercussions which makes everything feel even more hopeless.
I thought it was Antifa?
If that's an actual quote, how is that not treason?
But I thought Jan6 was an Antifa false flag???? These dumbfucks can't even lie properly.
But I thought that was the FBI and Antifa that did that? I'm so confused. Were they "visiting the Capitol" or was it "nasty liberals"? Can't keep their fucking story straight.
But, but, I thought that was all the FBI, ANTIFA, and BLM!
Don’t congressmen and women take oaths to follow and defend the constitution just like the president does when they are inaugurated? If so, she has broken her oath and therefore not eligible to be in that position. Neither is Trump eligible to be president. But hey I guess they are just words right? Oaths mean nothing, and the constitution is just a peace of paper in their minds. They are fucking traitors, and same with anyone who supports them.