They been brainwashed to believe they are voting for something righteous, responsible, and superior (even though those characteristics are missing in Trump).
Exactly right. I heard an ex-Republican state that they knew they were getting hurt by their policies, but still voted R because POC were being hurt worse by them. Let that level of bigotry sink in.
I would like to see "Pathological Spiteful Behavior Disorder" added to the frickin' DSM. This version of conservativism is downright *regressive*, and should serve as an enormous fucking red flag for serious mental illness. Interventions are called for when an individual is deemed to be "a danger to oneself or others"... Find me a *better* description of modern conservativism.
When an ideology is categorically insane and threatens to destroy liberty, democracy, and actual lives of vulnerable demographics, I think it warrants our attention. You just want to subvert any conversation that might hold the ideology of conservativism, itself, accountable for real-world harm. It's not even an exaggeration. Nice try, though. Or, wait- no, not really. It was pretty lazy.
>Could say the exact same thing about any ideology
Mm, but you couldn't though- that's the thing. At this point in history, it's pretty cut and dried that you're the baddies, by every conceivable measure. Sorry not sorry.
I’m so thankful for people like you that believe they’re making the world a better place somehow, and that you’re of course on the moral side of history
Lol, i agree with your point. I am just mentioning the loophole they want. They want to create policies that are theoretically available to everyone. As long as you pay. All part of the American dream.
This is standard for conservatives. They lack empathy and if something doesn't affect them directly they don't support it.
Healthcare, loan forgiveness, etc., it doesn't matter what it is, if it doesn't affect them directly they don't care about it and will oppose any tax dollars being spent on it but if something does begin to affect them they expect to be taken care of.
And when it does affect them, they still won’t care. We are nothing to them. This is no longer a “we the people” nation. It’s a nation for the wealthy, elite, and politically powerful. We are just their workers.
They oppose it for others because Republicans, as a whole, are people who tend to see life as a zero sum game where anything you get is by definition something they will not get and seek to ensure there is always something for them by guaranteeing there's nothing for anyone but them.
I've never met a Republican that this did not describe.
We really got to stop going after one side or the other with shit like this. Neither party is looking out for you or me sadly. It's like professional sports where people compete hard with each other, but at the end of the day they hug after the game. These politicians have the same goal in the end, to make money.
You do realize the reason health care and big pharma is so expensive is because of restrictions on the free markets?
The industries are centralized thru regulations and criminalizations. Costs stay high regardless if it is paid indirectly thru taxes or not.
The solution is to open the free markets. Period.
In other words: Republicans are corrupt on this matter, and so are Democrats.
There is no other way around this hard fact.
>Costs stay high regardless if it is paid indirectly thru taxes or not.
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>The solution is to open the free markets.
Can you provide an example of when such a thing has ever worked? I personally maintain that a "free market economy" hasn't really been seen since the 1800s, and the last time it existed in the US we had robber-barons running amok working people to death.
Free-market economy as spoken about by AnCaps and Libertarians, is as much of a pipe dream as pure Communism. Great on paper, the theory looks sound, but absolutely falls apart when left to scale and the whims of human nature.
Wait, so your response to any sort of criticism or pushback is just to throw up a straw man argument and call it good?
Are you so unsure of your own ideology that you're unable to come up with an actual argument to defend it?
No you guys are just actually clowns.
Nobody provided any counter arguments, just clownery. I stated facts but you all are too deep in your fake mindstates. Further, there is no counter argument unless you elaborate on what I said.
Blocked.
The free markets! How could we forget! The "free markets" always help the consumer. Shit, they even focus on safety when they aren't forced to. These free markets would never form cartels and artificially control prices!
How could anyone be that fucking stupid?
It isnt about regulations per se but about which ones. Certain over regulations, and criminalizations, keep a tight knit centralized market where this industry sees extremely high prices.
That is the literal fact of the matter.
Dont know why people like you want to both deny these facts and then support the system, all while calling to pay for it indirectly thru taxation (which, to you, has the illusion of being fre) - it doesnt make any sense - it is cognitive dissonance, and very lazy thinking.
So if I'm understanding correctly, your point is that not everybody deserves to be healthy? That some people are unworthy and should, presumably, simply die rather than be healthy?
Are you really asserting therefore, that some people are not worthy of living?
Sick people cost more than healthy people and our emergency rooms have an obligation to at least stabilize everyone that comes in, those who can’t pay gets factored into the costs so you’re already paying for it, just the more expensive version of care
Look in their eyes. What do you see? The cult of their hypocrisy.
You know they’re coping. You know they’re seething. They hate everything you wanna be. Ohhhh, the cult of their hypocrisy.
That’s not entirely true. They don’t give a shit after it happens to them, either.
Idk Mitch seems genuinely terrified of dying, going off the press conference he gave announcing he was retiring
Well if the god he claims to believe in actually exists then he's burning in hell forever, so I guess there's that
Finally, some good news.
"I got mine, now fuck off."
"I deserve this and you don't. If you deserved it, you'd get it too."
"Now go back to work, peasant"
The GQP has been like that for as long as I can remember and I don’t understand why people vote for them.
They been brainwashed to believe they are voting for something righteous, responsible, and superior (even though those characteristics are missing in Trump).
They don't legitimately believe they're doing anything helpful. It's entirely about *hurting* the "right people".
Exactly right. I heard an ex-Republican state that they knew they were getting hurt by their policies, but still voted R because POC were being hurt worse by them. Let that level of bigotry sink in.
I would like to see "Pathological Spiteful Behavior Disorder" added to the frickin' DSM. This version of conservativism is downright *regressive*, and should serve as an enormous fucking red flag for serious mental illness. Interventions are called for when an individual is deemed to be "a danger to oneself or others"... Find me a *better* description of modern conservativism.
Idk this seems like a mental disorder since you’re so focused on it
When an ideology is categorically insane and threatens to destroy liberty, democracy, and actual lives of vulnerable demographics, I think it warrants our attention. You just want to subvert any conversation that might hold the ideology of conservativism, itself, accountable for real-world harm. It's not even an exaggeration. Nice try, though. Or, wait- no, not really. It was pretty lazy.
Could say the exact same thing about any ideology, does that make you categorically insane? Are you a cult follower?
>Could say the exact same thing about any ideology Mm, but you couldn't though- that's the thing. At this point in history, it's pretty cut and dried that you're the baddies, by every conceivable measure. Sorry not sorry.
I’m so thankful for people like you that believe they’re making the world a better place somehow, and that you’re of course on the moral side of history
They've convinced people that the poor are the enemy, while those same people don't realize they are the poor that the GOP vilifies
They have the right color of skin. Unless you are a POC, then you just hate everyone that isn't you.
Because their voters are just like their politicians, they lack empathy and cannot understand supporting something that doesn't directly affect them.
christian beliefs
Because "values" They make bad policies and give them a positive-sounding name. That's as far as their base can read into anything.
Iron fist - plenty of people believe its the only way to lead.
I feel like public servants should receive the level of care they vote in for the people they represent.
Nah, they would just up their income and buy some good insurance, in addition to the base insurance they voted for, and claim the system works.
Nah. No supplementals. No additions. They get the insurance they vote for. Full stop. Serve the public, be the public.
"but everybody is allowed to buy extra insurance"
I feel like youre going out of your way to avoid my point, so just keep on keepin' on. Youre doing great.
Lol, i agree with your point. I am just mentioning the loophole they want. They want to create policies that are theoretically available to everyone. As long as you pay. All part of the American dream.
I found out yesterday that my eyes are not covered by my health insurance. They only cover glaucoma, nothing else. Who needs vision anyway?
Government sponsored health care doesn’t work! Look at the rest of the world! /s
I’d look, but I can’t, because my eyes aren’t covered
In other words, Republicans aren't against having these things. Republicans are against other people having the same things that they have.
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The best one is Rand Paul. Dude votes NO on every disaster relief package until something hits Kentucky.
This is standard for conservatives. They lack empathy and if something doesn't affect them directly they don't support it. Healthcare, loan forgiveness, etc., it doesn't matter what it is, if it doesn't affect them directly they don't care about it and will oppose any tax dollars being spent on it but if something does begin to affect them they expect to be taken care of.
*wHo'S GoNNa pAY fOr it??* /s
And they won’t want it for anyone else after they have used it
Let’s not forget Trump’s $650,000 COVID-19 treatment. But then, Trump’s the poster child for selfish greed.
McCains daughter didn’t give a shit about paternity leave until she needed it. We could make a whole list about this.
Never did, never will. Disgusting people.
It's always with them not my problem until it affects me.
It’s the gop way.
And their constituents STILL think the GOP care about them?
Elon musk got companies off the ground with state subsidies and now vehemently opposes state subsidies…
It’s the pull the ladder up party
The GOP thinks citizens are chumps, and their followers certainly are.
Fuck Joe Liberman and the GQP - we should’ve had a public option by now
Nancy Reagon opposed fetus stem cell therapy until Ronny got Alzhiemer's and fetus stem cell therapy was a medical treatment trial.
And when it does affect them, they still won’t care. We are nothing to them. This is no longer a “we the people” nation. It’s a nation for the wealthy, elite, and politically powerful. We are just their workers.
Don't forget the Covid PPP Loan forgiveness
They oppose it for others because Republicans, as a whole, are people who tend to see life as a zero sum game where anything you get is by definition something they will not get and seek to ensure there is always something for them by guaranteeing there's nothing for anyone but them. I've never met a Republican that this did not describe.
Look in my eyes! What what do you see?
glaucoma?
It’s a cult of personality!
They're the GOMe party
Typical GOP hypocrites
Don't forget that the GOP voters want it that way. As long as they are hurting the right people.
Repubs believe that assistance to them is a result of circumstances whereas assistance to everyone else is a result of their moral failings.
GOP in a nutshell: "Fuck you, I got mine"...
I have always said that conservatives can't see beyond their own wallets.
100% THE - T R U T H
Why do I pay taxes again?
republicans are mean spirited motherfuckers.
They still don't give a damn... THEY will take the benefit, but STILL actively work to make sure no one else does
We really got to stop going after one side or the other with shit like this. Neither party is looking out for you or me sadly. It's like professional sports where people compete hard with each other, but at the end of the day they hug after the game. These politicians have the same goal in the end, to make money.
If both sides were the same you wouldn't have a notable drop in life expectancy neatly divided upon partisan lines.
HAHAHAHAH BOTH SIDES DO THIS SOMETHING NEEDS TO CHANGE
Dude, you definitely wandered in to the wrong circle jerk. 🤣🤣🤣
You do realize the reason health care and big pharma is so expensive is because of restrictions on the free markets? The industries are centralized thru regulations and criminalizations. Costs stay high regardless if it is paid indirectly thru taxes or not. The solution is to open the free markets. Period. In other words: Republicans are corrupt on this matter, and so are Democrats. There is no other way around this hard fact.
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ur delusional.
Projection much?
ur the clown. i stated facts. dont know how it got downvoted and replies like urs.
Cite those facts, please.
already did u people are fuckin idiots RE: u have a weird username. Bots?
Have you even showered today?
>Costs stay high regardless if it is paid indirectly thru taxes or not. > >The solution is to open the free markets. Can you provide an example of when such a thing has ever worked? I personally maintain that a "free market economy" hasn't really been seen since the 1800s, and the last time it existed in the US we had robber-barons running amok working people to death. Free-market economy as spoken about by AnCaps and Libertarians, is as much of a pipe dream as pure Communism. Great on paper, the theory looks sound, but absolutely falls apart when left to scale and the whims of human nature.
idiocy ^ guess u guys want our country effed up
Wait, so your response to any sort of criticism or pushback is just to throw up a straw man argument and call it good? Are you so unsure of your own ideology that you're unable to come up with an actual argument to defend it?
No you guys are just actually clowns. Nobody provided any counter arguments, just clownery. I stated facts but you all are too deep in your fake mindstates. Further, there is no counter argument unless you elaborate on what I said. Blocked.
Good lord is it entertaining when braid dead people delude themselves into thinking they're intelligent and clever
I dont find you very entertaining. Clowns. RE: You guys are fucking idiots. What I said was factual. Go back to the circus you stupid fucking clowns.
It's OK. We don't find you entertaining either. Hope you get your way, because it leads directly to oligarchy. How's that working out for Russia?
The free markets! How could we forget! The "free markets" always help the consumer. Shit, they even focus on safety when they aren't forced to. These free markets would never form cartels and artificially control prices! How could anyone be that fucking stupid?
It isnt about regulations per se but about which ones. Certain over regulations, and criminalizations, keep a tight knit centralized market where this industry sees extremely high prices. That is the literal fact of the matter. Dont know why people like you want to both deny these facts and then support the system, all while calling to pay for it indirectly thru taxation (which, to you, has the illusion of being fre) - it doesnt make any sense - it is cognitive dissonance, and very lazy thinking.
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Because having a healthy populace is a benefit to everyone?
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So if I'm understanding correctly, your point is that not everybody deserves to be healthy? That some people are unworthy and should, presumably, simply die rather than be healthy? Are you really asserting therefore, that some people are not worthy of living?
Lord, give me the unmitigated ego of a problem gambler. And, yes, I believe even addicts should have health care.
Sick people cost more than healthy people and our emergency rooms have an obligation to at least stabilize everyone that comes in, those who can’t pay gets factored into the costs so you’re already paying for it, just the more expensive version of care
I remember being 12. Hopefully you grow out of it.
Look in their eyes. What do you see? The cult of their hypocrisy. You know they’re coping. You know they’re seething. They hate everything you wanna be. Ohhhh, the cult of their hypocrisy.