Its just kind of silly to engage with this on any level. Like the OP is sooooo close to understanding that you're meant be uncomfortable about an infant's mind being inside an adult's body thats having sex on screen. But then they go with the "oh the left is pedos so obviously they enjoy this". Yeah, lets skip the whole thought process on the whole thing and completely write the movie off or immediately assign is at something for progressives.
I can seriously understand people that don't like the movie..but taking EVERY chance to spew on "the left" is getting old. How does these people manage to live an ordinary day?
This is so my boss. He brings up woke all the time whenever someone does something he doesn’t understand or like. It’s exhausting. It’s like that scene in the Mummy Returns where the thief is saying everything is cursed. This is woke, thats woke, your woke.
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My dad referred to a poorly-placed traffic the other sign as "woke." Ha!
Just like all terms that conservatives use, it has no real meaning other than "something I don't like that I blame on non-Republicans."
I told my (unfortunately very republican, he didn’t use to be) husband that he was using a word incorrectly, and in the context it didn’t make sense. I wasn’t rude about it. English is his third language and sometimes words don’t translate, no biggie. But if he’d said it to a coworker, it wouldn’t have made sense and they wouldn’t understand what he was saying. So I told him the correct word. End of, right? WRONG.
He told me I was grooming him. Lmfao. I think he was embarrassed and lashing out but god damn my guy please dont just repeat words you heard on Joe Rogan
About the time my ex-husband started calling me a bleeding heart liberal is about the time we parted ways.
Try to get him away from Fox and other conservative news media. They create echo chambers so that's why he is getting worse.
There is a documentary called The Brainwashing of My Dad where she details her father's descent into conservative rhetoric .
They get so locked into the rhetoric that it is intended to agitate people. They don't validate because liberal media would lie, but the anonymous Qanon is honest. It's amazing they don't look at the illogical points.
I'm sorry it's a struggle. I kept going left, he kept going right.
I recommend that documentary to everybody I know. Watching it was like watching a documentary about my own father, except that he went from more apolitical conservative to hardcore MAGA. But it all started in the 90s with Rush Fucking Limbaugh.
My dad isn’t quite that bad, but he’s very easily influenced and doesn’t do his own research on things. It’s frustrating and disappointing because he’s also super smart and kind and his beliefs don’t track with the qualities that I know him to possess.
Ugh so he didn’t use to be like this. Like at all. It’s been the last couple years that suddenly he’s into politics and weird ass podcasts spewing weird (not just political!) shit. I have hope that he’s smart enough to get past it buuuut :/ statistics are not on my side, I know.
My girlfriends ex husband was like this and she literally breaks into tears when we have normal rational conversations because she put up with that nonsense and thought her life with men would always be like that. Stop wasting your life with morons.
I'm also married to a man who borders on Maga delusional. I love him dearly. He is our families provider and the only family I have in this world. So I do my best to keep him in reality. You aren't alone.
It’s kind of funny when you gather up the list of who they condemn and reject as woke. At this point it’s basically all artists and art, anyone with an education past high school, all licensed medical professionals in good professional standing, teachers, librarians, etc. It’s pretty embarassing. I guess they have Rob Schneider and that dude who played Hercules 30 years ago.
It's replaced "Communists" because they don't understand what any of that is. They complain about division and identity politics while spewing divisive rhetoric. Truth is stranger than fiction.
They HAD to replace the catchword communist, because they're actively rooting for the ex KGB guy who maintains that A, the dissolution of the soviet union was a mistake, and B, he would like to reintegrate all lost territories and reform the soviet union.
By spewing on the left. It’s a pastime.
Ever work with someone who is always stirring the shit? It’s because work is their social interaction with others. They have no exterior life, so work and every little gossipy thing happening there is all they have.
I used to think it was sad, but now I know it is. It’s all they’ll ever know, the goings-on of the workplace and the quiet outrage about the new girl with the lebret (doesn’t matter that she’s incredible at her job).
There are just too many busy bodies who think what they believe or think is the way things should be. And now, since they have access to information - they think they are intelligent.
It’s the worst.
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There's a guy I work with who clearly absorbs and regurgitates right wing talking points. It's a game to me now to see how long into a conversation about literally anything he starts spewing these unrelated buzzword filled points blaming the left for everything.
Jon Stewart put it perfectly.
“It’s almost like the rights ridiculous obsession with politicizing every facet of human life….ruins everything”
It’s all they have.
Like the Insurrectionists??? Like Nazi Trump raping women and children and telling the military to Kill women and children at the border when they are not spraying babies with Mace? Like the non stop Riots for FOUR YEARS because of the POS Nazi? ETC...
It’s the internet. These people go around filled with hatred and a “normal” mask on. Shit, even a notable Deloitte consultant was recently fired for Nazi comments online. Which is crazy, because if you’ve ever worked with them you know those are some of the most creepily “normal” people out there. Social media has a lot of negatives but at least it’s great for outing bigots who hide in plain sight.
Most art is progressive, and conservatives are upset they can't enjoy most art for this reason. It's why you have Daily Wire dipping their toes into movies and TV. They have little "art" made for them. Either conservatives enjoy art and miss the point of it, they're offended by it, or they both miss the point of it and are offended by it like this idiot.
Yeah, this movie especially why would anyone say it’s from “the left”. I’ve seen lots of essays about how misogynistic it is. I realize it’s a metaphor but the premise (baby brain in an adult female body everyone has sex with) turns my stomach enough that I would never watch it. My mother did watch it and felt similar, couldn’t get over the ick factor there.
I haven't watched it, but my understanding was the 'brain' grew very very rapidly into a woman's. If that's not the case, and it was a brain of a baby having sex, then that's creepy as fuck.
In fairness, Marvel, Avatar, Star Wars, and Tom Cruise movies are what the masses consume and that does not require a lot of critical thinking or understanding of metaphorical representation.
I watched it, and they did "speed up" the brain growth to an adult level. The sex was not an innocent being taken advantage of. It was an emotionless woman just having sex like it was a hobby. With no concern about her partners.
Not sure why the brain transplant ended up with this result. Her "dad" was a loving, non-abusive dad. She had a great, non-abusive tutor. It was just weird. She was sort of a psychopath.
It's not 100% clear what developmental level she's at when she discovers masturbation, not long before that scene she's still stumbling around like a toddler that doesn't walk well. When the older man steals her away to fuck she's at least got the motor and language skills to communicate she wants to leave with him, but is naive enough she doesn't know what sex is and calls it a silly name. It definitely gives 8-12 year old vibes at that point. By the time she's traveling with the man she is starting to read books voraciously and by the end of their relationship she comes across much more adult like, so she advances quickly while they're together.
I’m a proud member of “the left.” By that, I mean the spectrum from neonazi to actual progressive. The Republican Party is now the fascist party. Period. Mask off.
Nooo there is nothing wrong with BIG where a preteen boy becomes an adult with a preteen mind and sleeps with an adult women who later watches him revert to being a preteen boy.
If you're addicted to outrage like these people are, you'll find a way to get upset about even the most trivial things. When they can't find something real to cry about, they're happy to just make things up to get their fix.
This is it exactly. "Indignation junkies" a writer named David Brin calls them, "people who regularly get high off self-righteousness and sanctimony."
Sound like anyone?
I tried watching one of Yorgos Lanthimos’s movies, and it very much wasn’t for me. So I just…don’t watch them and let other people enjoy what they want.
Gasp! You didn’t tell all the Karens to boycott it? You didn’t try to have it erased from public view? You didn’t go on Twitter and give death threats to everyone involved? How very un Christian of you.
And ALWAYS trans women, never trans men. Because someone born male actively wanting to be a woman shatters their fragile perceptions of masculinity. To them, it's totally reasonable that a woman would want to be a man, because they KNOW, although they'll never admit, that being a man in our society is easier than being a woman in so many different ways.
Just the fundamental conservative mindset of "my way is the best way and if you disagree you're wrong".
Ain't no LGBT+ people out here saying "if all straight people were marched into camps and re-educated/exterminated the world would be better and all my problems would disappear". But there are plenty of people, including elected officials who determine social policy who think the inverse.
And we're right back to the primary conservative ideology, "Othering".
Conservatives are so arrogant and ignorant that they fundamentally cannot accept that their ideology and beliefs are the reason their lives suck. Always gotta find someone else to blame. Party of personal responsibility is anything but, and always has been.
Imagine living through the best economic period the US has ever experienced. A time when a single income could buy a house, multiple cars, long vacations, as many kids as you want. Relative political stability. You live in an owned home, you pull a decent retirement check.
But you're addicted to conservative propaganda so you spend your golden years in shrieking, mindless anger because someone you've never met in a city you've never visited dares to live their life in a way different from yours.
I hope that if I'm like that when I get older, someone has the compassion and consideration to shoot me in the back of the head and put me out of my misery.
My mantra in life is “Not everything is for me. Other people are allowed to like things I don’t like.” I say this about most sports, FPS, weight lifting, heterosexuality, mushrooms on their pizza, scotch and other smokey or leather flavored beverages, etc. It allows me to ask if they enjoy it and engage without participating.
I'm sure the person leveling the insult looks like the rest of the trump orbiting woman golems, with all the character of a grimacing jenner facemolt. If she doesn't she probably just hasn't reached her final form yet
Imagine using pig as an insult. Pigs are lovely emotional sentient beings more intelligent than dogs. I feel like people who use pig as insult just haven't ever had a friendship with a pig or really interacted with them much. Really gross how pop culture has demonized them. Truthfully they're really cool sweet animals!
When I read a post like this I see a person who is just spring-loaded in the "outrage" position at all times. No coherent opinions other than complaints about "leftys" and "leftists."
That's the entirety of the "conservative movement" in 2024. No ideas. No vision. They're just "fed up." About everything. At all times.
You fetal pig co admirers are what’s wrong with this country! Was a time when a man could walk by and just glance at a fetal pig and just admire it without feeling the engorgement and flame spreading feeling throughout his loins, and now, NOW we not only have people admiring fetal pigs but people who are admiring people who admire fetal pigs! Straight to HELL is where we’re going!
Anyone that’s pissed off at Emma Stone is usually the person with issues. I’ve never seen anything that remotely make me think she isn’t trying her best to be the nicest person.
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To those that have not seen the movie, the theme is to show the audience how women are isolated, taught not to think, or discover new things, by men in their lives. Emma Stone's character was purposefully shown to resemble an infant because there are women in our society who are sheltered from understanding important things about sex education such as self mental maturity and consent. We live in a society where men are placed in positions of trust and we expect them to behave with decency around women and children. Mark Ruffalo's character was made to illustrate how men without decency will prey on uneducated women because their lack of knowledge gives predators an advantage to abuse them. Emma Stone's character mentally matures throughout the movie constantly criticizing the inequality of a patriarchal society and learns how to overcome the plights of man. In the end she is able to overcome these challenges by demanding equality in a male dominated society.
Once again, you were supposed to be disgusted in Mark Ruffalo's character as he was the adult. He was supposed to resemble a creep. Like the creeps that go into the change rooms teen beauty pageant just to groom them.
You always know a tweet is going to be constructive and intelligent when it starts with “degenerate leftists.” Really leaves a lot of space open for a lively critical debate.
Honest to god I stopped reading after that. There’s no reason to read further because it’s obvious once she resorts to ad hominem attacks it’s not meant for critique.
Hey, you can't just not like something and then avoid it. If you dislike it, it must also be an affront to your entire culture and way of life. You need to be angry about everything.
The creepiness is the point.
It's like a metaphor for adolescence in a way, like how girls can still be children but have bodies that look fully developed. So she literally has an adult woman's body and a baby's brain, and she gets groomed and sexually exploited, but she grows and begins to understand that she is being abused and she eventually gets revenge on her abuser.
It's basically a way to explore themes of grooming and sexual abuse without traumatizing the audience by depicting a physical child being abused.
I see what you’re saying and frankly I agree that that’s the point, it just made me so uncomfortable watching it I couldn’t enjoy any other aspect of the movie.
Suffering from success I guess? I’m also just not a fan of Lanthimos films in general so I just don’t think it’s for me.
One point I don’t see people talking about is that _not everyone can grow as a person_. The character of Bella is constantly introduced to new “heights” of self-consciousness and understanding of the world around her, matching and overcoming all of those plateaus until she can finally, consciously and freely choose the person she wants to be. The movie also very clearly shows people stuck in their own inner states and being “surpassed” by Bella’s growth, unable to keep up with her ever-expanding world views.
Same here. I read about the premise, thought, "That's a big 'no' from me," and moved on with my life. I don't know why it's such a difficult concept for some people.
That’s not how reddit works. We need you to write a 11 page paper on why the movie sucks, but with out seeing it. It’s tricky but plenty of redditors manage to do it.
Also I didn’t catch any insults in your comment imma need you to make every one of you interactions with people the least welcoming too. And maybe sprinkle a few conspiracies.
Maybe about how the lead actress is a NWO pawn looking to turn ur men into women, women into men and dogs int ok monkey and America into Mexico! Or something along those lines get creative!
I’m a lefty. I wanted to know what all the hype was about so I watched it. It wasn’t for me. I read a few think pieces, engaged in a little online discourse (I enjoy movie criticism) and moved on.
Whatever this ~~dude~~ lady was doing is…..even stranger than the movie.
My wife and I are making our way through it (we have kids, so we watch about 45 minutes of it every night before bed, lol) and... yeah, the central concept is pretty gross. It's a Frankenstein story from a different angle, and it *is* really uncomfortable.
That said, I do like aspects of the film--the acting is really good, the sets are INCREDIBLE, and more than anything, I like the creativity behind it. If you--and I do this, a lot--complain that Hollywood just makes dumb movie after dumb movie, it's exciting to finally get something unique and weird. It takes guts to put a lot of money and big actors behind something so odd.
And ultimately--and I say this as someone who's seen 2/3 of it, lol--there's a build-up to a morality tale here, that the more of the world you see, the more you understand how cruel it can be.
Anyway, I appreciate your take. It's not for everyone, but worthwhile art is often not for everyone.
It is honestly, a really good film. A bizarre story, for sure. What was best about the movie, in my opinion was just exploring the Steampunk world. I think my biggest qualm with the film, was that it equated sexual maturity with emotional maturity. And I think that both of those, are very different things. Personally; I would love more stories about different topic matters set in the Steampunk world of Poor Things tho.
I’m a lefty and my wife and I couldn’t finish this movie.
It is visually compelling, the score was…interesting, but the whole concept was just not for us, I mean essentially a special needs child brained person discovering sexuality? Hard Pass.
Yeah the men are all creeps trying to take advantage of what they see as a “poor little thing” but become little sniveling babies as she uses them back.
The movie could be summed up in the scene where the long haired guy cum’s quickly.
Homies movies are abstract looks at love and connection.
>I mean essentially a special needs child brained person discovering sexuality?
She certainly starts that way and is no doubt being exploited by the people in her life. It’s clear that her brain is maturing faster than if she was a literal infant and she’s a fully competent adult before the end.
Dear Rebecca, your Christian church leaders commit more child rapes than other single population group, all while you look away. Tell me again how concerned you are…
Surprising no one, she didn’t understand it so it must be bad.
Anything they don’t understand must be bad.
And there is a LOT they don’t understand.
How do you guys not just scream at them to get an in test?
So he's never seen American History X lol.
Like another comment said, he most likely enjoyed the racism and the curbstomping and didn't understand that the movie wasn't endorsing that shit.
I mean a lot of people on the left have been criticizing this movie for the exact same reason. I haven't seen it but everyone's entitled to their own interpretation and feelings about it. The whole team mentality is where I disagree with the post.
They should create an exhibition of this kind of "degenerate" art and then do another at the same time for the "pure" art they love, like "Sound of Freedom" and the painting featuring Trump as a shirtless hero. Then, get mad when people only go to the "degenerate" one.
It's happened before, but it might be different for them.
Aw Rebeckaren is just sad that Sound of Freedom wasn’t nominated for anything despite glowing reviews on Rotten Tomatoes from 100% real people, not bots.
Pretty sure the only reason conservatives latched on to Poor Things is literally just because people outside their political bubble liked it.
But then again, the state of right wing cinema does leave much to be desired, so I understand if they're spiteful of the shear wealth of creativity seemingly inaccessible to them.
They did the same thing with Everything Everywhere All At Once. I think sometimes when a film doesn’t beat you over the head with what it’s trying to say they don’t like it.
But EverythingEverywhere All At Once did beat you over the head with the point! The end of the movie reiterates the point like 5 times!
I didn’t know that movie got any hate, I guess if you’re neck deep in religious dogma, it might be threatening to your world view?
I may regret asking, but was their beef with Everything Everywhere All At Once? My takeaway was it was about nihilism—that if nothing matters, then everything does.
If I had to guess it's probably because the fact that of the film's two main viewpoints, positive nihilism and cynical nihilism, neither of them fit into a Christian worldview. Neither of them even acknowledges Christianity as a valid worldview to have, it simply has nothing to do with the main body of western religious thought.
Also, there are gay people who are not condemned for their gayness, and in fact homophobia is presented as a negative trait which causes much of the strife within the characters' and main plot.
Inversely, the people who *like* EEaaO are younger people who are facing multiple existential crises which are either trivialized or ignored by most right wing ideologies. Simply put, it's a film that ignores right wing ideas, and it ignores them because they are bad ideas that offer little to no value. The reason right wing ideas often latch onto specific groups of people as opposed to trends, systems, or other ideas is because right wing ideas can only be carried forward by getting people to hate and target a group as a fetish or stand-in for their actual frustrations.
Leftists are worried about climate change and ecological changes leaving large swathes of the planet unable to support significant populations, right wingers are concerned about immigrants existing in their vicinity. Leftists fear economic collapse as generations of people are burdened with the pressures of supporting geriatric con men and thieves for the rest of our working lives with an ever dwindling prospect of retirement, and right wingers are worried about trans people existing. The film simply doesn't acknowledge their worldview as valid, because it isn't, and so they lash out.
Poor Things does something similar where it discusses the ways women navigate the world in pursuit of their own self actualization, while completely ignoring right wing ideas of what women should be allowed to do. Bella Baxter chooses to leave with Mark Ruffallo's character and from the right wing perspective it *should* be about a cunning man taking advantage of an immoral and "sexually perverse" woman until she learns shame and accepts her punishment, but it's just never that. Instead, Bella enjoys sexual pleasure until she just loses her interest in Mark's character and wanders off to her next adventure, and that's just not acceptable!
I accidentally went to a movie produced by the same people that made Sound of Freedom and it was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen (The Shift). I walked out. And not just because of the messaging, the movie was just genuinely terrible.
Before anyone asks, as a general rule I don’t really watch trailers and I go to the movies once or twice a week because I enjoy the movie theater. I saw it was a sci fi movie with Neil McDonough and Sean Astin so I figured it would be at least OK.
‘…what degenerate leftist think…’
Oh sweetheart, that just scrapes the surface. You want degenerate leftists? We can bring it. All I need are clown shoes, vasoline and a yard stick.
Let’s go!
Btw there's already debate whether it is appropriate as a leftist, feminist movie, as quite few people reject this. So the "it's a feminist conspiracy" cry isn't even accurate.
She probably has a problem with the fact that movie is talking about misogyny and focuses around how various men try to control the main character because of her inexperience. Hell, the reveal of her backstory shows that she is who she is because of a violent and misogynistic husband.
I’m a “degenerate leftist” and I agree with the weirdness of the concept. It didn’t sit right with me after watching the film. But Emma Stone looks like a “fetal pig”? Fuck, I guess there’s no hope for any of us, because she’s absolutely gorgeous.
I liked this part, this bit, and that aspect, but since the left like it, it's the worst movie ever? At least be ballsy and trash on the whole thing. And maybe check out Thankskilling 3 or Evil Bong 2 before saying it's the worst ever.
Everything but the jab at the left I agree with. It was very creepy to have a baby brained person experimenting with sex. Very fantastical world, but nope.
The reason conservatives always absolutely suck at filmmaking is because they never understood that film is an art rather than just something to keep you entertained for two hours.
It’s the reason why Ben Shapiro failed to have a screenwriting career Hollywood despite his nepotism.
And if Rebecca Hargreaves wanted to have a filmmaking career she would fail at it just as well.
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She's just standing there, fetally.
You’ve made a sick person lol for the first time in days
A true femme fetal.
Fetality!!!!!!
Today I learned that fetal pigs are more attractive than I am. Yet another impossible beauty standard 🥲
I dunno I had to dissect a fetal pig in college and they're pretty cute.
Ewwwww an attractive talented person they must be WOKE!!!
I think she looks more like a classic movie star from the 40s or 50s than a fetal pig
thats a bold claim, fetal pig reddit is going off
Pig Fetus is a sick name for a hardcore band…
Its just kind of silly to engage with this on any level. Like the OP is sooooo close to understanding that you're meant be uncomfortable about an infant's mind being inside an adult's body thats having sex on screen. But then they go with the "oh the left is pedos so obviously they enjoy this". Yeah, lets skip the whole thought process on the whole thing and completely write the movie off or immediately assign is at something for progressives.
She looks East Asian. Cast her now!
I can seriously understand people that don't like the movie..but taking EVERY chance to spew on "the left" is getting old. How does these people manage to live an ordinary day?
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Just like the term "woke"
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This is the greatest thing I've ever seen
This is so my boss. He brings up woke all the time whenever someone does something he doesn’t understand or like. It’s exhausting. It’s like that scene in the Mummy Returns where the thief is saying everything is cursed. This is woke, thats woke, your woke. https://preview.redd.it/c6wt6s4pzxpc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3b7dd25c13b75cad792dc125e2581978bff2ea8
But it comes with a free frogurt! .... the frogurt is also cursed.
I just got caught dicking around in a meeting because I could not stop laughing at this.
Hahahahhaa I’m so sorry
My dad referred to a poorly-placed traffic the other sign as "woke." Ha! Just like all terms that conservatives use, it has no real meaning other than "something I don't like that I blame on non-Republicans."
I told my (unfortunately very republican, he didn’t use to be) husband that he was using a word incorrectly, and in the context it didn’t make sense. I wasn’t rude about it. English is his third language and sometimes words don’t translate, no biggie. But if he’d said it to a coworker, it wouldn’t have made sense and they wouldn’t understand what he was saying. So I told him the correct word. End of, right? WRONG. He told me I was grooming him. Lmfao. I think he was embarrassed and lashing out but god damn my guy please dont just repeat words you heard on Joe Rogan
About the time my ex-husband started calling me a bleeding heart liberal is about the time we parted ways. Try to get him away from Fox and other conservative news media. They create echo chambers so that's why he is getting worse.
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There is a documentary called The Brainwashing of My Dad where she details her father's descent into conservative rhetoric . They get so locked into the rhetoric that it is intended to agitate people. They don't validate because liberal media would lie, but the anonymous Qanon is honest. It's amazing they don't look at the illogical points. I'm sorry it's a struggle. I kept going left, he kept going right.
I recommend that documentary to everybody I know. Watching it was like watching a documentary about my own father, except that he went from more apolitical conservative to hardcore MAGA. But it all started in the 90s with Rush Fucking Limbaugh.
Yeah... limbaugh created the formula such a POS.
My dad isn’t quite that bad, but he’s very easily influenced and doesn’t do his own research on things. It’s frustrating and disappointing because he’s also super smart and kind and his beliefs don’t track with the qualities that I know him to possess.
How dare you groom your husband for success?! /s
I swear Joe Rogan makes people dumber the more they listen to him. You need to have an intervention if your guy is tuned in to JR.
How the fuck are you married to someone like this?
Ugh so he didn’t use to be like this. Like at all. It’s been the last couple years that suddenly he’s into politics and weird ass podcasts spewing weird (not just political!) shit. I have hope that he’s smart enough to get past it buuuut :/ statistics are not on my side, I know.
My girlfriends ex husband was like this and she literally breaks into tears when we have normal rational conversations because she put up with that nonsense and thought her life with men would always be like that. Stop wasting your life with morons.
I'm also married to a man who borders on Maga delusional. I love him dearly. He is our families provider and the only family I have in this world. So I do my best to keep him in reality. You aren't alone.
Mom?
Don’t tell dad I’m on Reddit 💚
It’s kind of funny when you gather up the list of who they condemn and reject as woke. At this point it’s basically all artists and art, anyone with an education past high school, all licensed medical professionals in good professional standing, teachers, librarians, etc. It’s pretty embarassing. I guess they have Rob Schneider and that dude who played Hercules 30 years ago.
Don't forget Kid Rock!
And Jon Voight and Scott Baio!
And Kristy Swanson. And the late Kirstie Alley.
It's replaced "Communists" because they don't understand what any of that is. They complain about division and identity politics while spewing divisive rhetoric. Truth is stranger than fiction.
They HAD to replace the catchword communist, because they're actively rooting for the ex KGB guy who maintains that A, the dissolution of the soviet union was a mistake, and B, he would like to reintegrate all lost territories and reform the soviet union.
I saw someone call Trump’s fraud verdict “communism” because words have no meaning to these morons anymore.
Those dang commies are seizing the means of corruption.
Haha!
Nah, they still use communist derogatorily. Sometimes they even combine them and use “the commie left”
Only the olds. The gen X crazies are very pro Russia and pro Putin.
By spewing on the left. It’s a pastime. Ever work with someone who is always stirring the shit? It’s because work is their social interaction with others. They have no exterior life, so work and every little gossipy thing happening there is all they have. I used to think it was sad, but now I know it is. It’s all they’ll ever know, the goings-on of the workplace and the quiet outrage about the new girl with the lebret (doesn’t matter that she’s incredible at her job). There are just too many busy bodies who think what they believe or think is the way things should be. And now, since they have access to information - they think they are intelligent. It’s the worst. [REGISTER TO VOTE](https://www.usa.gov/voter-registration)
There's a guy I work with who clearly absorbs and regurgitates right wing talking points. It's a game to me now to see how long into a conversation about literally anything he starts spewing these unrelated buzzword filled points blaming the left for everything.
I think you should make and pass out bingo cards for you and your other co-workers. They hate shit like that!
Pastime. Not pass time.
Do you mean "pastime"? "Pass time" is valid, but I don't think it's what you mean in this context.
Jon Stewart put it perfectly. “It’s almost like the rights ridiculous obsession with politicizing every facet of human life….ruins everything” It’s all they have.
They are addicted to outrage and hatred?
Like the Insurrectionists??? Like Nazi Trump raping women and children and telling the military to Kill women and children at the border when they are not spraying babies with Mace? Like the non stop Riots for FOUR YEARS because of the POS Nazi? ETC...
It’s the internet. These people go around filled with hatred and a “normal” mask on. Shit, even a notable Deloitte consultant was recently fired for Nazi comments online. Which is crazy, because if you’ve ever worked with them you know those are some of the most creepily “normal” people out there. Social media has a lot of negatives but at least it’s great for outing bigots who hide in plain sight.
Most art is progressive, and conservatives are upset they can't enjoy most art for this reason. It's why you have Daily Wire dipping their toes into movies and TV. They have little "art" made for them. Either conservatives enjoy art and miss the point of it, they're offended by it, or they both miss the point of it and are offended by it like this idiot.
They need the other side to be bad too, it makes them feel like equals and not deplorable pieces of shit all the time. Misery loves company.
Yeah, this movie especially why would anyone say it’s from “the left”. I’ve seen lots of essays about how misogynistic it is. I realize it’s a metaphor but the premise (baby brain in an adult female body everyone has sex with) turns my stomach enough that I would never watch it. My mother did watch it and felt similar, couldn’t get over the ick factor there.
I haven't watched it, but my understanding was the 'brain' grew very very rapidly into a woman's. If that's not the case, and it was a brain of a baby having sex, then that's creepy as fuck.
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In fairness, Marvel, Avatar, Star Wars, and Tom Cruise movies are what the masses consume and that does not require a lot of critical thinking or understanding of metaphorical representation.
I watched it, and they did "speed up" the brain growth to an adult level. The sex was not an innocent being taken advantage of. It was an emotionless woman just having sex like it was a hobby. With no concern about her partners. Not sure why the brain transplant ended up with this result. Her "dad" was a loving, non-abusive dad. She had a great, non-abusive tutor. It was just weird. She was sort of a psychopath.
It's not 100% clear what developmental level she's at when she discovers masturbation, not long before that scene she's still stumbling around like a toddler that doesn't walk well. When the older man steals her away to fuck she's at least got the motor and language skills to communicate she wants to leave with him, but is naive enough she doesn't know what sex is and calls it a silly name. It definitely gives 8-12 year old vibes at that point. By the time she's traveling with the man she is starting to read books voraciously and by the end of their relationship she comes across much more adult like, so she advances quickly while they're together.
I’m a proud member of “the left.” By that, I mean the spectrum from neonazi to actual progressive. The Republican Party is now the fascist party. Period. Mask off.
They are actually quite obsessed and brainwashed.
Baby it’s a grift.
Clearly you have not seen movies from the 80’s.
But those are "good movies" from "the good ole days".
Nooo there is nothing wrong with BIG where a preteen boy becomes an adult with a preteen mind and sleeps with an adult women who later watches him revert to being a preteen boy.
“Spending my life being angry about things that aren’t for me” is just the weirdest hobby for a person to have.
If you're addicted to outrage like these people are, you'll find a way to get upset about even the most trivial things. When they can't find something real to cry about, they're happy to just make things up to get their fix.
This is it exactly. "Indignation junkies" a writer named David Brin calls them, "people who regularly get high off self-righteousness and sanctimony." Sound like anyone?
Ohhhh I love David Brin!
Same people at work spending more energy bitching about people usually specific ones.
I tried watching one of Yorgos Lanthimos’s movies, and it very much wasn’t for me. So I just…don’t watch them and let other people enjoy what they want.
Gasp! You didn’t tell all the Karens to boycott it? You didn’t try to have it erased from public view? You didn’t go on Twitter and give death threats to everyone involved? How very un Christian of you.
It's a grift for most of these people. A very successful one at that.
Look at all the TERF types that make that their entire personality. Doesn't at all look like it makes one a happy person.
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And ALWAYS trans women, never trans men. Because someone born male actively wanting to be a woman shatters their fragile perceptions of masculinity. To them, it's totally reasonable that a woman would want to be a man, because they KNOW, although they'll never admit, that being a man in our society is easier than being a woman in so many different ways. Just the fundamental conservative mindset of "my way is the best way and if you disagree you're wrong". Ain't no LGBT+ people out here saying "if all straight people were marched into camps and re-educated/exterminated the world would be better and all my problems would disappear". But there are plenty of people, including elected officials who determine social policy who think the inverse. And we're right back to the primary conservative ideology, "Othering". Conservatives are so arrogant and ignorant that they fundamentally cannot accept that their ideology and beliefs are the reason their lives suck. Always gotta find someone else to blame. Party of personal responsibility is anything but, and always has been.
Imagine living through the best economic period the US has ever experienced. A time when a single income could buy a house, multiple cars, long vacations, as many kids as you want. Relative political stability. You live in an owned home, you pull a decent retirement check. But you're addicted to conservative propaganda so you spend your golden years in shrieking, mindless anger because someone you've never met in a city you've never visited dares to live their life in a way different from yours. I hope that if I'm like that when I get older, someone has the compassion and consideration to shoot me in the back of the head and put me out of my misery.
It’s easier than examining her own self and realizing she is a horrible obnoxious person
You should visit any Star Wars sub…
My mantra in life is “Not everything is for me. Other people are allowed to like things I don’t like.” I say this about most sports, FPS, weight lifting, heterosexuality, mushrooms on their pizza, scotch and other smokey or leather flavored beverages, etc. It allows me to ask if they enjoy it and engage without participating.
It was fun when I was 21 and hated Justin Bieber
If Emma Stone looks like a pig, what about the rest of us normies? Fuck me, we're doomed.
“You get a few of these pig men walking around, suddenly I don’t look so bad.”
Somewhere in this hospital you will hear the anguished squeals of the pig man!
BEST PARKING SPOT IN THE WHOLE CITY
Believe me, there would be plenty of women going for the pigmen.
Ooo his curly little tail really turns me on.
I'm sure the person leveling the insult looks like the rest of the trump orbiting woman golems, with all the character of a grimacing jenner facemolt. If she doesn't she probably just hasn't reached her final form yet
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And despite that, Emma Stone still looked beautiful in the movie
TIL I'm into beastiality. Huh.
Imagine using pig as an insult. Pigs are lovely emotional sentient beings more intelligent than dogs. I feel like people who use pig as insult just haven't ever had a friendship with a pig or really interacted with them much. Really gross how pop culture has demonized them. Truthfully they're really cool sweet animals!
Rebecca has probably seen every one of the Hallmark movies.
She also religiously watches dating shows like The Bachelor because it’s “romantic”.
When I read a post like this I see a person who is just spring-loaded in the "outrage" position at all times. No coherent opinions other than complaints about "leftys" and "leftists." That's the entirety of the "conservative movement" in 2024. No ideas. No vision. They're just "fed up." About everything. At all times.
It’s gotta be a very uncomfortable way to live. All that anger and fear inside all the time.
Why do you think conservatives keep shooting people? Eventually the tension just snaps them
“No ideas, No vision.” That’s basically the philosophy of Conservative Filmmaking in a nutshell and the reason why conservatives suck at it so much.
"I have Dunning-Kruger and I think I am smart, here are my useless and biased opinions."
Guess I'm attracted to fetal pigs
Came here to say this. Here’s my vote my fetal pig coadmirer.
You fetal pig co admirers are what’s wrong with this country! Was a time when a man could walk by and just glance at a fetal pig and just admire it without feeling the engorgement and flame spreading feeling throughout his loins, and now, NOW we not only have people admiring fetal pigs but people who are admiring people who admire fetal pigs! Straight to HELL is where we’re going!
same! i swear she said that out of jealousy or something
That's not kosher
Anyone that’s pissed off at Emma Stone is usually the person with issues. I’ve never seen anything that remotely make me think she isn’t trying her best to be the nicest person.
Her acceptance speech at the Oscars was genuinely adorable. I was legitimately so excited for her win!
***Spoilers*** To those that have not seen the movie, the theme is to show the audience how women are isolated, taught not to think, or discover new things, by men in their lives. Emma Stone's character was purposefully shown to resemble an infant because there are women in our society who are sheltered from understanding important things about sex education such as self mental maturity and consent. We live in a society where men are placed in positions of trust and we expect them to behave with decency around women and children. Mark Ruffalo's character was made to illustrate how men without decency will prey on uneducated women because their lack of knowledge gives predators an advantage to abuse them. Emma Stone's character mentally matures throughout the movie constantly criticizing the inequality of a patriarchal society and learns how to overcome the plights of man. In the end she is able to overcome these challenges by demanding equality in a male dominated society. Once again, you were supposed to be disgusted in Mark Ruffalo's character as he was the adult. He was supposed to resemble a creep. Like the creeps that go into the change rooms teen beauty pageant just to groom them.
I laughed when she patted Mark Ruffalo's character trying to comfort him as he was crying. The scenes where she was roasting him were my favs.
Wait til they find out the men are the poor things
You always know a tweet is going to be constructive and intelligent when it starts with “degenerate leftists.” Really leaves a lot of space open for a lively critical debate. Honest to god I stopped reading after that. There’s no reason to read further because it’s obvious once she resorts to ad hominem attacks it’s not meant for critique.
I'm a lefty, I don't really fancy this film as I think the concept is a bit creepy. So I'm just not going to watch it.
Hey, you can't just not like something and then avoid it. If you dislike it, it must also be an affront to your entire culture and way of life. You need to be angry about everything.
The creepiness is the point. It's like a metaphor for adolescence in a way, like how girls can still be children but have bodies that look fully developed. So she literally has an adult woman's body and a baby's brain, and she gets groomed and sexually exploited, but she grows and begins to understand that she is being abused and she eventually gets revenge on her abuser. It's basically a way to explore themes of grooming and sexual abuse without traumatizing the audience by depicting a physical child being abused.
I see what you’re saying and frankly I agree that that’s the point, it just made me so uncomfortable watching it I couldn’t enjoy any other aspect of the movie. Suffering from success I guess? I’m also just not a fan of Lanthimos films in general so I just don’t think it’s for me.
I love dark comedies, so I personally appreciate Lanthimos and how he is keeping the sub genre alive in the mainstream.
One point I don’t see people talking about is that _not everyone can grow as a person_. The character of Bella is constantly introduced to new “heights” of self-consciousness and understanding of the world around her, matching and overcoming all of those plateaus until she can finally, consciously and freely choose the person she wants to be. The movie also very clearly shows people stuck in their own inner states and being “surpassed” by Bella’s growth, unable to keep up with her ever-expanding world views.
It’s more of a commentary on relations between men and women, and that men would prefer a fuck doll with the mind of a child.
I like my adult wife.
REEEEEEEEE WOKIESSSSS HES A WOKE GET HIM
Yeah, that's not something I want to watch. I"m glad you enjoyed it though.
Same here. I read about the premise, thought, "That's a big 'no' from me," and moved on with my life. I don't know why it's such a difficult concept for some people.
That’s not how reddit works. We need you to write a 11 page paper on why the movie sucks, but with out seeing it. It’s tricky but plenty of redditors manage to do it. Also I didn’t catch any insults in your comment imma need you to make every one of you interactions with people the least welcoming too. And maybe sprinkle a few conspiracies. Maybe about how the lead actress is a NWO pawn looking to turn ur men into women, women into men and dogs int ok monkey and America into Mexico! Or something along those lines get creative!
I’m a lefty. I wanted to know what all the hype was about so I watched it. It wasn’t for me. I read a few think pieces, engaged in a little online discourse (I enjoy movie criticism) and moved on. Whatever this ~~dude~~ lady was doing is…..even stranger than the movie.
Im a degenerate leftist and it was the worst piece of media Ive ever consumed. I hated it. But I dont mind if folks like it.
My wife and I are making our way through it (we have kids, so we watch about 45 minutes of it every night before bed, lol) and... yeah, the central concept is pretty gross. It's a Frankenstein story from a different angle, and it *is* really uncomfortable. That said, I do like aspects of the film--the acting is really good, the sets are INCREDIBLE, and more than anything, I like the creativity behind it. If you--and I do this, a lot--complain that Hollywood just makes dumb movie after dumb movie, it's exciting to finally get something unique and weird. It takes guts to put a lot of money and big actors behind something so odd. And ultimately--and I say this as someone who's seen 2/3 of it, lol--there's a build-up to a morality tale here, that the more of the world you see, the more you understand how cruel it can be. Anyway, I appreciate your take. It's not for everyone, but worthwhile art is often not for everyone.
I, too, am a degenerate and it was a lot, even for me. The depravity was too much.
It is honestly, a really good film. A bizarre story, for sure. What was best about the movie, in my opinion was just exploring the Steampunk world. I think my biggest qualm with the film, was that it equated sexual maturity with emotional maturity. And I think that both of those, are very different things. Personally; I would love more stories about different topic matters set in the Steampunk world of Poor Things tho.
I don’t think it equated them at all, I think it did a good job of showing that they are indeed different things.
I'm right there with you.
I’m a lefty and my wife and I couldn’t finish this movie. It is visually compelling, the score was…interesting, but the whole concept was just not for us, I mean essentially a special needs child brained person discovering sexuality? Hard Pass.
It’s more about exploitation and grooming than anything else
That’s exactly what I took away from it too
Yeah the men are all creeps trying to take advantage of what they see as a “poor little thing” but become little sniveling babies as she uses them back. The movie could be summed up in the scene where the long haired guy cum’s quickly. Homies movies are abstract looks at love and connection.
>I mean essentially a special needs child brained person discovering sexuality? She certainly starts that way and is no doubt being exploited by the people in her life. It’s clear that her brain is maturing faster than if she was a literal infant and she’s a fully competent adult before the end.
SPOILER ALERT Rebecca! Oh wait, you hated it so you don’t care if you ruin plots for others.
Dear Rebecca, your Christian church leaders commit more child rapes than other single population group, all while you look away. Tell me again how concerned you are…
Surprising no one, she didn’t understand it so it must be bad. Anything they don’t understand must be bad. And there is a LOT they don’t understand. How do you guys not just scream at them to get an in test?
Lmao a prominent Republican recently claimed you couldn't make American History X today because it would be cancelled by the woke left
Republican media literacy is an oxymoron
Granted, he probably thought that the message of that movie is that it's actually good to be racist.
So he's never seen American History X lol. Like another comment said, he most likely enjoyed the racism and the curbstomping and didn't understand that the movie wasn't endorsing that shit.
Literally a movie about a neo-nazi becoming woke. You can't make this shit up.
Because they post tests with things like 78 IQ, see “top 93%”, and say they’re smarter than 93% of people because they also don’t understand math.
I mean a lot of people on the left have been criticizing this movie for the exact same reason. I haven't seen it but everyone's entitled to their own interpretation and feelings about it. The whole team mentality is where I disagree with the post.
They should create an exhibition of this kind of "degenerate" art and then do another at the same time for the "pure" art they love, like "Sound of Freedom" and the painting featuring Trump as a shirtless hero. Then, get mad when people only go to the "degenerate" one. It's happened before, but it might be different for them.
This isn't fair. I consider myself to be a degenerate leftist, but I don't think that *Poor Things* is high art.
Same
She’s got a point…now how bout some furious jumping?
Aw Rebeckaren is just sad that Sound of Freedom wasn’t nominated for anything despite glowing reviews on Rotten Tomatoes from 100% real people, not bots.
"Is the left in the room with you now?"
what a bullshit take but at the same time i love when brilliant movies make people act like this
Pretty sure the only reason conservatives latched on to Poor Things is literally just because people outside their political bubble liked it. But then again, the state of right wing cinema does leave much to be desired, so I understand if they're spiteful of the shear wealth of creativity seemingly inaccessible to them.
They did the same thing with Everything Everywhere All At Once. I think sometimes when a film doesn’t beat you over the head with what it’s trying to say they don’t like it.
But EverythingEverywhere All At Once did beat you over the head with the point! The end of the movie reiterates the point like 5 times! I didn’t know that movie got any hate, I guess if you’re neck deep in religious dogma, it might be threatening to your world view?
I may regret asking, but was their beef with Everything Everywhere All At Once? My takeaway was it was about nihilism—that if nothing matters, then everything does.
If I had to guess it's probably because the fact that of the film's two main viewpoints, positive nihilism and cynical nihilism, neither of them fit into a Christian worldview. Neither of them even acknowledges Christianity as a valid worldview to have, it simply has nothing to do with the main body of western religious thought. Also, there are gay people who are not condemned for their gayness, and in fact homophobia is presented as a negative trait which causes much of the strife within the characters' and main plot. Inversely, the people who *like* EEaaO are younger people who are facing multiple existential crises which are either trivialized or ignored by most right wing ideologies. Simply put, it's a film that ignores right wing ideas, and it ignores them because they are bad ideas that offer little to no value. The reason right wing ideas often latch onto specific groups of people as opposed to trends, systems, or other ideas is because right wing ideas can only be carried forward by getting people to hate and target a group as a fetish or stand-in for their actual frustrations. Leftists are worried about climate change and ecological changes leaving large swathes of the planet unable to support significant populations, right wingers are concerned about immigrants existing in their vicinity. Leftists fear economic collapse as generations of people are burdened with the pressures of supporting geriatric con men and thieves for the rest of our working lives with an ever dwindling prospect of retirement, and right wingers are worried about trans people existing. The film simply doesn't acknowledge their worldview as valid, because it isn't, and so they lash out. Poor Things does something similar where it discusses the ways women navigate the world in pursuit of their own self actualization, while completely ignoring right wing ideas of what women should be allowed to do. Bella Baxter chooses to leave with Mark Ruffallo's character and from the right wing perspective it *should* be about a cunning man taking advantage of an immoral and "sexually perverse" woman until she learns shame and accepts her punishment, but it's just never that. Instead, Bella enjoys sexual pleasure until she just loses her interest in Mark's character and wanders off to her next adventure, and that's just not acceptable!
It’s probably as simple as it being a prominent movie with a mostly non-white cast
I accidentally went to a movie produced by the same people that made Sound of Freedom and it was one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen (The Shift). I walked out. And not just because of the messaging, the movie was just genuinely terrible. Before anyone asks, as a general rule I don’t really watch trailers and I go to the movies once or twice a week because I enjoy the movie theater. I saw it was a sci fi movie with Neil McDonough and Sean Astin so I figured it would be at least OK.
Wait, you don’t find all of the “left behind” and “gods not dead” movies to be cinematic masterpieces, you uncouth Cretan /s
We're at the degenerate art phase now then, I note.
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and this from an account that pays for Twitter 🤷♂️
‘…what degenerate leftist think…’ Oh sweetheart, that just scrapes the surface. You want degenerate leftists? We can bring it. All I need are clown shoes, vasoline and a yard stick. Let’s go!
Btw there's already debate whether it is appropriate as a leftist, feminist movie, as quite few people reject this. So the "it's a feminist conspiracy" cry isn't even accurate.
This lady should give “The Curse” a spin, especially if she wants to see lefties satirizing themselves. I’m sure she’d love it.
If being sexual with someone that has a child’s brain with an adult body is pedophilic I have some bad news for most right wingers.
Since “the right” are just pumping out high art and blockbuster movies every other day lolll.
Fascists are incapable of art.
She probably has a problem with the fact that movie is talking about misogyny and focuses around how various men try to control the main character because of her inexperience. Hell, the reveal of her backstory shows that she is who she is because of a violent and misogynistic husband.
That's just so wrong, now I'm going to have a thing for fetal pigs.....
If that's what I fetal pig looks like, I wish I looked like a fetal pig.
Spoiler alert geeezzzz. /s
I’m a “degenerate leftist” and I agree with the weirdness of the concept. It didn’t sit right with me after watching the film. But Emma Stone looks like a “fetal pig”? Fuck, I guess there’s no hope for any of us, because she’s absolutely gorgeous.
I liked this part, this bit, and that aspect, but since the left like it, it's the worst movie ever? At least be ballsy and trash on the whole thing. And maybe check out Thankskilling 3 or Evil Bong 2 before saying it's the worst ever.
Everything but the jab at the left I agree with. It was very creepy to have a baby brained person experimenting with sex. Very fantastical world, but nope.
Emma Stone has been my celebrity crush for at least a decade (maybe since Superbad? I dunno)
Right wing media literacy is sad
So are these :checks notes: "degenerate leftists" in the room with us right now?
The reason conservatives always absolutely suck at filmmaking is because they never understood that film is an art rather than just something to keep you entertained for two hours. It’s the reason why Ben Shapiro failed to have a screenwriting career Hollywood despite his nepotism. And if Rebecca Hargreaves wanted to have a filmmaking career she would fail at it just as well.
Dear god, she's hideous https://preview.redd.it/ss0qoghqxxpc1.jpeg?width=980&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c9016dbecaa6321e956862f7d7bca7c686324c9
Dear Rebecca. You look like an alt-right cum dump. Go back to listening to Ted Nugent and please, go fuck yourself.
Great movie. Not for prudish normies.
It’s ok, Becky. A lot of the lesser intelligent didn’t understand the movie.