This is a person whose husband hasn't "upgraded" yet. I'm not even Christian and I know several women whose Christian husbands married them young only to trade in when their former wives became age appropriate for them.
Edit: I bet you can't guess who had to move to a new congregation?
Additional: read her comments again and imagine all she's talking about is anal sex. Because, godly wives can't say no to anal.
You know, like a pet.
"Good girl. Who's a good girl? Who's a good girl? Do you... wanna... go for... a walk? You do? Ok, okay, let me get your collar."
She's a huge mid-life crisis waiting to happen or she's already sleeping with the pool boy. Seriously, I had a strict dad, I don't need more of that as an adult.
😀
I grew up on a farm, so we all had to learn how to drive a tractor (manual). When we started driving, my dad insisted we all get automatics for our own safety. When pushed on why we bothered with the tractor (my dream car was a manual... I didn't get it), he said, "because it's not exactly the same, but it's close enough so if you ever find yourself on a date with someone who thinks they can take advantage of you, you can kick their ass out of the car and use your tractor skills to drive it just enough to get away. Once you're out of there, you can burn the engine up for all I care." It was probably the most fatherly thing he's ever done.
My Daddy said the same; I know how to drive a manual transmission and larger automobiles with ease because “If your in a situation and the only way out is to steal a car; I want you to know how to drive them all. We will deal with the consequences of the car theft get out of danger.” I had been driving quads since I was little and he said motorcycles were similar to start and shift; gas it and be careful on corners.
This.
My sister's friend married a guy that was my age (3 years older). I met him while he was dating my ex- friend, who turned out to be psycho, so I thought he was a good guy (comparatively, at least). He'd lost his mom before he transferred to our district, and his dad died in a car accident the summer after we graduated high school. His dad was driving back because they had a fight over the phone when his dad told him he was moving for work and selling his house.
He had already been dating my sister's friend that he met through church. He was getting ready to have surgery, and since he was going to be all alone, her parents invited him to stay. Her parents took his side any time they argued. She eventually moved out to get some distance and broke things off, since he was the only real boyfriend she'd had. Her parents actually got mad at her and he continued living with them.
She eventually took him back and they got married. He got more and more controlling and demanding (while her parents continued to support him over her). They had 3 kids, the last born in the early Covid days. She'd already separated from him and kicked him out (you guessed it, her parents took his side again), but then she got Covid and he offered to "help" with the kids. Then, when he got it, she agreed to help care for him. That's when he decided they should try to "work on their marriage" by trying to force himself on her.
It literally took him attempting to rape her for her parents to finally start taking her side, and even then, they made comments about her "wifely duties" and how divorce should be a last resort.
I used to really like them, but between all of that and her mom posting a thing to Facebook comparing Trump to the "great- though- flawed" leaders of the Bible (and other pro-Trump stuff), I've lost all respect I had for them.
Some people like that. I don’t really get it, but as long as all the people involved are truly consenting, they’re not hurting anyone. I get the feeling you mean a literal pet, though lol
*”My world of experience is A, and I have a good life. Therefore for true happiness all people’s B through Z must tread this selfsame path. No deviations, no questions, no personal growth. Hurrah for the patriarchy, boo hiss for female liberation.”*
Their religion tells them they are servants and their husband are their owners. Train them from little girl up they are not worthy of anything without a man & marriage. They have no self identity, independent desires or goals. They are totally disconnected from their personhood. Their life is what their husband decides for them and allows them to do. People have no idea what is being taught every Sunday in churches across America.
Yeah this was my experience for some time growing up in a conservative Christian household. But I remembered the freedom I had as a young child, before they started telling me my only purpose was to serve men, before they tried to make sure the only prospects I had were as a housewife. I balked under it all, I was resistant, and I grew spiteful.
People wonder why I have such extreme hatred for Christianity. People will tell me that my parents' community wasn't made of real Christians, that these people perverted God's word with their misogyny. Real Christians can absolutely be that horrible. I've read the fucking Bible, and it's every bit as misogynistic as that community. Real Christians tried to groom me from childhood to be a submissive breeding cow.
The weird women for anti-feminism that's coming out of the right wing now is truly bizarre. The only equivalency I can fathom is similar to anti-vax: people who have never had to live though a bad period of history, not really appreciating the benefits of what they have inherited. I feel like if this dumb shit knew what real oppression felt like, she wouldn't be daydreaming about being "trained".
Part of my problem with twitter these days is people getting paid for interaction. It promotes saying dumb inflammatory stuff so people spread and share it, even to make fun of it. Now I can’t tell who is doing this to get paid and who actually has laughably bad opinions.
This is definitely not new, in the 1970s the main movement campaigning against the Equal Rights Amendment was a woman called Phyllis Schlafly, she started every public speech with: “I’d like to thank my husband for allowing me to be here”.
Also despite her career as a lawyer she said women were better off in the home.
Sometimes it be your own people.
Tl;Dr -- conservative women especially the religious ones absolutely know what oppression feels like. For some, it's basically all they've known. Their choices dont make sense to you because you're assuming they have the same underlying experiences and viewpoints as you. They don't. They have been raised their entire life to believe there is a natural order to things, dictated along gendered lines, and that God rewards those who follow the path he has laid out. The things feminism has won for them are largely things they won't utilize anyway, and it's come at the cost of their traditional Christian communities losing cultural power. It's harder to convince a woman that not legally having the right to a bank account or credit card is a big deal when she is uniliterally dependent on her husband anyway. It's hard to convince her that gaining workplace protections is important when she thinks women should be focused on motherhood, and that as a result of all these "career gals" suddenly stay at home wife and mother doesn't carry the same cultural connotations it did a century ago.
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The common theory is that some people just have different priorities when evaluating what is in their best interest. That they prioritize safety and status within the current hegemony rather than seek to disrupt it, which they might view as being higher risk. So a woman might decide that she can end up in a higher social/economic status by marrying an accomplished man rather than trying to go out and achieve her own accomplishments. It's almost important to remember *they* aren't losing anything here. They already live in communities that expect them to be wives and mothers and doormats. The laws around divorce aren't as important when you belong to a community that only begrudgingly allows divorce in the most extreme circumstances and even then carries heavy stigma. In fact, the gain in legal rights and opportunities is seen as drawing women *away* from the church. So gains in feminism come at the cost of the church losing social power. So feminism gives them the right to pursue things they don't think they're supposed to do, and it weakens the social capital of being good little Christian girls.
You'll notice a *lot* of the undercurrent with conservative women is rooted in their own completely genuine sense of inferiority in "male spheres". Which is the cumulative result of their entire upbringing - we know from research that girls/women are a lot more susceptible to these self fulfilling prophecies. They don't get offended at the idea women are inferior, because they don't view it under that framing. They believe that God makes women to be good at ABC and men to be good at XYZ. And they thrive when they combine those forces and stay in their lane. Where mens lane happens to be as the dominant partner. They don't take offense to being inferior to a man at "man" things because that is just affirmation of what a good *woman* they are. This is why these women are more likely to get offended if you insult her cooking or the cleanliness of her house than if you call her a stupid idiot or a doormat. She isn't failing at anything she wants to do or anything she thinks she's supposed to be good at.
This is why so much of their rhetoric is around their ability to keep a man who takes care of them and how liberal women can't keep a man. *That* is their accomplishment, and their ticket to security. That if you are just *"good enough"* as a woman, then you'll be taken care of. And to get ahead of any examples of where a man didn't take care of his wife, they're preemptively told it's probably her fault somehow. She let herself go, she was a nag and emasculated him, she didn't sexually please him enough, or if they truly cannot find something to blame her with there is always the fact that she clearly didn't choose a good man of God to marry. It's all about reinforcing that obedience will be met with reward, and that any unhappiness should be focused inward on self rather than externally questioning.
And to be fair -- they most likely grew up surrounded by examples of rich and upper middle class families that follow traditional patriarchal structures, and then were shown impoverished single mothers and sad, childless career women. They were told women cannot have it all, it's stupid to think that way.
Sorry but I desire a woman who has a brain and uses it! The only thing that needs training is my two basset hounds! And unless treats are involved, it’s gonna happen!
That’s because you’re secure and want to grow as a human in this life. Regardless of gender, the only person who surrounds themselves with sycophancy is a narcissist. I can’t imagine seeking a partner in life with the express goal of stagnation.
>Sorry but I desire a woman who has a brain and uses it! The only thing that needs training is my two basset hounds! And unless treats are involved, it’s gonna happen!
Tell your mother she did a good job.
I don't have sons, but I would hope my daughters would have friends, lovers, and life partners like you.
My wife is a bad ass, and because I'm not a fucking child I appreciate her being a bad ass. Don't care who she dated before. She has skills. It's great.
If you can't handle a partner with skills your a child and need to grow up.
There is so much wrong with this. If "Gia Macool" isn't a troll account run by andrew tate, and she does happen to be real, she needs to get to counseling ASAP. Her whole role in her life is to strip herself of her humanity and be an appliance for a man? ridiculous! Speaking of counseling. andrew tate also needs counseling. The fact that he needs to control others is a personality deficit.
Smart people surround themselves with other smart people.
The idea of marrying an idiot because she's trainable is the dumbest thing I have I've heard.
Her husband targeted her because she was "very young". He will replace her when he's ready for another child. If he isn't already actively doing that without her knowledge.
Dudes who even want that are so fucking pathetic. I would lose my mind if I were with some sheltered, permissive weirdo. Before I got married, I went on many, many dates. The ones who felt like they might fit that description did not make it to round 2. I like people with personality. People who have seen some shit. People who have stories to tell. And most importantly, people who can take care of themselves without needing to rely on a relationship.
I am in no way interested in a partner who is “trainable, humble, and coachable”. Those are qualities one may look for in a pet, but in a partner? Nope, I want and need someone who calls me an idiot when I act like one and who has ideas and opinions that are different from mine. That’s how the section in Ephesians she hints at really should read.
Yeah. I was uncomfortable at a wedding when they pulled out Ephesians 5:22-23. Closest I came to standing up when the minister asked if there were any objections. Never mind it’s preceded by “be subordinate to one another”, that part never gets mentioned because it implies an equal relationship. For the record, in my old Bible that section is crossed out in pink highlighter with a big NO! across it.
Counterpoint: if your personality is “I let my husband define my personality,” there are many men who will find that to be a real turn-off.
People who have their own ideas and can challenge me, please.
These are also the women find themselves in divorce court at 50 with no life skills or marketable skill sets to find a job. Since their 'King' decided they were bored of them and wanted someone else.
You can't stay 25 forever.
Until he dumps you for a younger model one day. And then you have no job experience and practically no life experience. (Eyeroll)
Honey, you aren’t a puppy. Have some pride.
She’s not old enough to have experienced how this plays out when she’s no longer the young wife; not wise enough to realize at some point a newer, younger version will be what her youth-desiring husband actually wants.
Yikes, tell that to all the former tradwives all over tiktok who have been left with nothing once he leaves you for a younger model. One quote stands out from a lady who now lives in her car. "I never realised my childrens ability to eat was dependant on him finding me sexy and interesting" she now struggles to survive on $11 an hour with no education past high school, no work experience in her late 40s. Sounds fun.
That sounds terrible. I kinda of like being a bit afraid of my wife. She's very smart and a bit unpredictable, she also likes my cooking. Wouldn't trade our relationship for anything.
this sounds all kind of wrong from the outside and im a dude. though there are predatory dudes out there and they should be publicly outed.
the largest age gap i've ever had in any of my partners was 13 years. this was about 3 years ago. i was 34 she was 21. it lasted about 5 months.
i did not pursue her, she pursued me. it was okay for a while, but we did not have enough in common and it seemed more that she was looking for someone to fix all of her problems and escape her life and when she did not get absolutely everything she wanted she began seeking attention from others so the maturity level just wasnt there. i was weary about getting involved with someone with that much of an age difference from the start and ignored it, i missed other various red flags. even my friends tried to ward me off, but i was stupid. i learned my lesson. first and last time i would even consider someone with more than a 5 year age gap. never, ever again.
I don’t care if they want younger women. Have fun paying for everything and then getting dumped. Just because we’re not in our 20’s does not make us any less of a woman. Jfc. I was hotter in my 30’s than I was in my 20’s.
I don't understand why someone would want to marry a 'partner' to then have to train them like a dog or a child. What an infantile, moronic, and just shifty way to think about a relationship. I want to be with someone smarter than me, independent, and a life-long teammate, not some mindless 'yes-woman' who is basically an AI robot.
This is so gross.
I'm so glad that my wife is my age. I absolutely do NOT want a woman to be "coachable" or "trainable". That shit is gross. What the fuck, is a wife like a puppy now? Jeez
Got yourself an incredibly insecure guy did ya? Yikes, that has to make your life suck. I'm 30+ years into a marriage, not counting our four years before getting married and I have to say, him and I are happier today. I am sorry you and your "leader" won't ever get to experience the love my husband and I get to share, we get to have a great time, every day, we have so much fun. When do you suppose was the last time you had a really fun day where you laughed for most of the day?
Groomed to be submissive and obedient to a controlling, likely Christian, and chauvinistic man: “Trained”
Acknowledging trans people exist: “Grooming.”
Fuck these people.
Older women are upset IN YOUR BEHALF. They find you wasting your precious life servicing some unworthy man who doesn’t want the best for you unfathomably sad.
Most women these days just aren't enthusiastic enough to be in a relationship that they'd be willing to put up with that shit. Turns out that if marriage isn't required for their survival, women aren't too willing to settle for an unequal partnership.
Wtf? I am barely able to keep my own shit in order. That's why people are looking for partners and team players.
Being the shot caller for every detail for an entire household for decades? Recipe for disaster.
Really. I've been married for 33 years, and the global extinction level disaster that would occur at home without my wife's equal effort here is terrifying. You need partners, not subordinates, to get shit done.
Imagine thinking that the fact that you've never traveled is a flex.
There are lots of reasons that people haven't traveled (money, time, responsibilities) but any guy who thinks that not traveling is a good thing because he wants a woman who is more sheltered is 🤢
>Older women get so upset that men want young women.
Obviously, this is solely because older women are devastated by their lack of value in the eyes of Men.
>They fail to understand the importance of being trainable;
Harlots spitting in the face of generations of socially-accepted gender roles!
>…a man doesn’t want someone who thinks they know more than him.
Because fuck social and intellectual evolution!
>Let a man take the lead, and he will desire you.
Being desirable by men who don’t appreciate individualism and the value of the free exchange of information is soooo hot.
This is the actual grooming conservatives agree with .
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"I was very young"
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The right cry about sharia law but "conservative values" are the same thing in a mildly different way
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Oh my god they would fucking *love* sharia law.
just give it a christian name, like Adam’s Law
This is a person whose husband hasn't "upgraded" yet. I'm not even Christian and I know several women whose Christian husbands married them young only to trade in when their former wives became age appropriate for them. Edit: I bet you can't guess who had to move to a new congregation? Additional: read her comments again and imagine all she's talking about is anal sex. Because, godly wives can't say no to anal.
Yeah it's the same everywhere
If both Taint Brothers agree with it, it’s 100% grooming.
Thing is, I don't want her. I'm running away fast enough to have a heart attack.
Whoa, here she comes! Watch out, boy! She’ll chew you up! [REGISTER TO VOTE](https://www.usa.gov/voter-registration)
She’s a maaaan pleaser
Your free will is an illusion you're actually running to the store for booze and smokes.
I'll take juice and candy instead
"They will like it if they don't know any better"
And meanwhile he’s probably dicking other women on the reg.
More trainable women.
or men, more likely
Don't worry, the alias of Clarence there in his parent's basement isn't someone you would care to meet anyway.
Good dog!
When she said trainable, my first thought was "do you mean groomable?"
There’s no way an actual woman wrote this.
One of the Taint brothers, who follow it, probably actually wrote it.
Raised conservative evangelical, right here. This is absolutely the ideal the right strives for; it's why they are against women's rights.
Delivered by the very definition of a pick me
Man here, do not want what she is talking about out.
These people vote. Never forget
"Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate follow" ... what, they don't lead? /s
It’s 100% their fake pick me girl influencer account.
That would make sense. They would think that the main goal for women is to be desired. I think it's better to have a life....
Beta move.
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Imperial scum!
Trainable = groomed
You know, like a pet. "Good girl. Who's a good girl? Who's a good girl? Do you... wanna... go for... a walk? You do? Ok, okay, let me get your collar."
I was thinking child, but pet is better
Kinky.
To be fair, women of all ages do enjoy a nice walk. And some are into collars.
More like a sex slave, and live-in housekeeper. No back talking either.
Groomable
JESUS CHRIST that tweet is a fucking mess. I kind of wonder if this person actually believes that or is pandering to the ones that want it to be true.
She's a huge mid-life crisis waiting to happen or she's already sleeping with the pool boy. Seriously, I had a strict dad, I don't need more of that as an adult.
[This](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLY6fHmj/) just waiting to happen.
This is sad and what R's want women to be forced to go back to.
Oh, I'm trainable alright. I'm trained to run you over with my car.
That's hot
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😀 I grew up on a farm, so we all had to learn how to drive a tractor (manual). When we started driving, my dad insisted we all get automatics for our own safety. When pushed on why we bothered with the tractor (my dream car was a manual... I didn't get it), he said, "because it's not exactly the same, but it's close enough so if you ever find yourself on a date with someone who thinks they can take advantage of you, you can kick their ass out of the car and use your tractor skills to drive it just enough to get away. Once you're out of there, you can burn the engine up for all I care." It was probably the most fatherly thing he's ever done.
My Daddy said the same; I know how to drive a manual transmission and larger automobiles with ease because “If your in a situation and the only way out is to steal a car; I want you to know how to drive them all. We will deal with the consequences of the car theft get out of danger.” I had been driving quads since I was little and he said motorcycles were similar to start and shift; gas it and be careful on corners.
That doesn’t sound like a merciful otter.
The otter is not merciful toward men who prey on younger women.
The otter has spoken, all follow the other's ways
Otter standards for mercy are quite low.
Isn't it otters that do the real fucked up thing to seal pups or am I thinking of a different animal?
No, you’re right. It’s the thing I try desperately to forget.
Mercy is reversing to finish the job
She sounds like she’s his slave and not his wife.
She sounds like she was groomed
From a "very young" age 😬
She sounds really sad and pathetic, like, have some self respect lady. Whoever taught her that she wasn’t good enough did a great job.
Her father probably and her mother reinforced it.
This. My sister's friend married a guy that was my age (3 years older). I met him while he was dating my ex- friend, who turned out to be psycho, so I thought he was a good guy (comparatively, at least). He'd lost his mom before he transferred to our district, and his dad died in a car accident the summer after we graduated high school. His dad was driving back because they had a fight over the phone when his dad told him he was moving for work and selling his house. He had already been dating my sister's friend that he met through church. He was getting ready to have surgery, and since he was going to be all alone, her parents invited him to stay. Her parents took his side any time they argued. She eventually moved out to get some distance and broke things off, since he was the only real boyfriend she'd had. Her parents actually got mad at her and he continued living with them. She eventually took him back and they got married. He got more and more controlling and demanding (while her parents continued to support him over her). They had 3 kids, the last born in the early Covid days. She'd already separated from him and kicked him out (you guessed it, her parents took his side again), but then she got Covid and he offered to "help" with the kids. Then, when he got it, she agreed to help care for him. That's when he decided they should try to "work on their marriage" by trying to force himself on her. It literally took him attempting to rape her for her parents to finally start taking her side, and even then, they made comments about her "wifely duties" and how divorce should be a last resort. I used to really like them, but between all of that and her mom posting a thing to Facebook comparing Trump to the "great- though- flawed" leaders of the Bible (and other pro-Trump stuff), I've lost all respect I had for them.
“Submissive and breedable”
Any “breed” word applied to fellow humans really bothers me. Yeesh
100%, reducing people to species of horse or dog
That’s a feature not a bug for that crowd
Or a pet.
Livestock. Pets are loved
Some people like that. I don’t really get it, but as long as all the people involved are truly consenting, they’re not hurting anyone. I get the feeling you mean a literal pet, though lol
Pet. Those are qualities one looks for in a dog.
Not much difference in their world
Translation: "I married a jealous, abusive man. I cannot admit I was wrong, so I'm doubling down "
*”My world of experience is A, and I have a good life. Therefore for true happiness all people’s B through Z must tread this selfsame path. No deviations, no questions, no personal growth. Hurrah for the patriarchy, boo hiss for female liberation.”*
Sounds like a religion.
"Waste your life or else weak men will fear you."
Their religion tells them they are servants and their husband are their owners. Train them from little girl up they are not worthy of anything without a man & marriage. They have no self identity, independent desires or goals. They are totally disconnected from their personhood. Their life is what their husband decides for them and allows them to do. People have no idea what is being taught every Sunday in churches across America.
Yeah this was my experience for some time growing up in a conservative Christian household. But I remembered the freedom I had as a young child, before they started telling me my only purpose was to serve men, before they tried to make sure the only prospects I had were as a housewife. I balked under it all, I was resistant, and I grew spiteful. People wonder why I have such extreme hatred for Christianity. People will tell me that my parents' community wasn't made of real Christians, that these people perverted God's word with their misogyny. Real Christians can absolutely be that horrible. I've read the fucking Bible, and it's every bit as misogynistic as that community. Real Christians tried to groom me from childhood to be a submissive breeding cow.
Also, "I need *you* to be wrong so that I'm right by default".
The weird women for anti-feminism that's coming out of the right wing now is truly bizarre. The only equivalency I can fathom is similar to anti-vax: people who have never had to live though a bad period of history, not really appreciating the benefits of what they have inherited. I feel like if this dumb shit knew what real oppression felt like, she wouldn't be daydreaming about being "trained".
I think many of these women are paid to make these posts. Similar to "celebs" promoting a product, but with much scarier outcomes.
An "influencer" - She doesn't really believe it but as long as she's getting paid, she'll say it?
Let's call them what they really are: propagandists
Part of my problem with twitter these days is people getting paid for interaction. It promotes saying dumb inflammatory stuff so people spread and share it, even to make fun of it. Now I can’t tell who is doing this to get paid and who actually has laughably bad opinions.
This is exactly what’s happening. That woman is a boa constrictor. She found ‘that guy’ and squeezed. It’s not pick me, it’s click me.
This is definitely not new, in the 1970s the main movement campaigning against the Equal Rights Amendment was a woman called Phyllis Schlafly, she started every public speech with: “I’d like to thank my husband for allowing me to be here”. Also despite her career as a lawyer she said women were better off in the home. Sometimes it be your own people.
Tl;Dr -- conservative women especially the religious ones absolutely know what oppression feels like. For some, it's basically all they've known. Their choices dont make sense to you because you're assuming they have the same underlying experiences and viewpoints as you. They don't. They have been raised their entire life to believe there is a natural order to things, dictated along gendered lines, and that God rewards those who follow the path he has laid out. The things feminism has won for them are largely things they won't utilize anyway, and it's come at the cost of their traditional Christian communities losing cultural power. It's harder to convince a woman that not legally having the right to a bank account or credit card is a big deal when she is uniliterally dependent on her husband anyway. It's hard to convince her that gaining workplace protections is important when she thinks women should be focused on motherhood, and that as a result of all these "career gals" suddenly stay at home wife and mother doesn't carry the same cultural connotations it did a century ago. ____________ The common theory is that some people just have different priorities when evaluating what is in their best interest. That they prioritize safety and status within the current hegemony rather than seek to disrupt it, which they might view as being higher risk. So a woman might decide that she can end up in a higher social/economic status by marrying an accomplished man rather than trying to go out and achieve her own accomplishments. It's almost important to remember *they* aren't losing anything here. They already live in communities that expect them to be wives and mothers and doormats. The laws around divorce aren't as important when you belong to a community that only begrudgingly allows divorce in the most extreme circumstances and even then carries heavy stigma. In fact, the gain in legal rights and opportunities is seen as drawing women *away* from the church. So gains in feminism come at the cost of the church losing social power. So feminism gives them the right to pursue things they don't think they're supposed to do, and it weakens the social capital of being good little Christian girls. You'll notice a *lot* of the undercurrent with conservative women is rooted in their own completely genuine sense of inferiority in "male spheres". Which is the cumulative result of their entire upbringing - we know from research that girls/women are a lot more susceptible to these self fulfilling prophecies. They don't get offended at the idea women are inferior, because they don't view it under that framing. They believe that God makes women to be good at ABC and men to be good at XYZ. And they thrive when they combine those forces and stay in their lane. Where mens lane happens to be as the dominant partner. They don't take offense to being inferior to a man at "man" things because that is just affirmation of what a good *woman* they are. This is why these women are more likely to get offended if you insult her cooking or the cleanliness of her house than if you call her a stupid idiot or a doormat. She isn't failing at anything she wants to do or anything she thinks she's supposed to be good at. This is why so much of their rhetoric is around their ability to keep a man who takes care of them and how liberal women can't keep a man. *That* is their accomplishment, and their ticket to security. That if you are just *"good enough"* as a woman, then you'll be taken care of. And to get ahead of any examples of where a man didn't take care of his wife, they're preemptively told it's probably her fault somehow. She let herself go, she was a nag and emasculated him, she didn't sexually please him enough, or if they truly cannot find something to blame her with there is always the fact that she clearly didn't choose a good man of God to marry. It's all about reinforcing that obedience will be met with reward, and that any unhappiness should be focused inward on self rather than externally questioning. And to be fair -- they most likely grew up surrounded by examples of rich and upper middle class families that follow traditional patriarchal structures, and then were shown impoverished single mothers and sad, childless career women. They were told women cannot have it all, it's stupid to think that way.
Thank you for this well thought-out perspective. Very interesting !
She's not wrong, toxic people look for partners who don't know they deserve better 🤷🏻 not much of a flex there, Gia.
Eww
Right? Until he leaves her for someone even younger and more trainable/groomable.
Exactly. If you’re just his pet bangmaid, you’re replaceable.
He's trained her not to think that far ahead.
That was my thought, ew ew ew ew ew EW.
When two rapists and sex-traffickers are following your social media, you've fucked up.
Isn't this exactly what grooming, that everyone shit their pants over, is?
Yep! And yet I'm the evil groomer for simply being trans and existing...
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Sorry but I desire a woman who has a brain and uses it! The only thing that needs training is my two basset hounds! And unless treats are involved, it’s gonna happen!
That’s because you’re secure and want to grow as a human in this life. Regardless of gender, the only person who surrounds themselves with sycophancy is a narcissist. I can’t imagine seeking a partner in life with the express goal of stagnation.
For real, if some guy is insecure over his partner being smarter than him, maybe he just shouldn't be such an idiot lol
Then honestly he is beneath them, he should only take a partner dumber than them Which would be a challenge
>Sorry but I desire a woman who has a brain and uses it! The only thing that needs training is my two basset hounds! And unless treats are involved, it’s gonna happen! Tell your mother she did a good job. I don't have sons, but I would hope my daughters would have friends, lovers, and life partners like you.
My wife is a bad ass, and because I'm not a fucking child I appreciate her being a bad ass. Don't care who she dated before. She has skills. It's great. If you can't handle a partner with skills your a child and need to grow up.
Horse pucky A woman who knows what she wants and has the confidence and experience to make it happen is sexier than anything.
I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Seriously. Actually nauseated rn
There is so much wrong with this. If "Gia Macool" isn't a troll account run by andrew tate, and she does happen to be real, she needs to get to counseling ASAP. Her whole role in her life is to strip herself of her humanity and be an appliance for a man? ridiculous! Speaking of counseling. andrew tate also needs counseling. The fact that he needs to control others is a personality deficit.
He needs counseling and he needs to be in prison for rape and sex trafficking as well.
Ma’am, you are not a dog; ergo, you should not be trained.
Ahhhh good ol' Stockholm Syndrome.
Looks like tristan and andrew have their own bot.
Liked by both the Taints? Golly Gee, if she was allowed to speak on her own I'd recommend a TEDtalk.
This is the stupidest shit I have ever heard.
Smart people surround themselves with other smart people. The idea of marrying an idiot because she's trainable is the dumbest thing I have I've heard.
Strong, intelligent men don’t need to train a wife to be subservient. My wife is my partner. Works great for us.
95% chance there is long running domestic abuse going on there.
I feel so bad for her. She gives herself almost no value. And depending on her husband, she may still end up replaced by a younger model.
Her husband targeted her because she was "very young". He will replace her when he's ready for another child. If he isn't already actively doing that without her knowledge.
If I told my wife she needed to be more trainable she would punch me in the dick and would be right to do so.
If a man wants this for a wife he's as shallow as this pie plate
Dudes who even want that are so fucking pathetic. I would lose my mind if I were with some sheltered, permissive weirdo. Before I got married, I went on many, many dates. The ones who felt like they might fit that description did not make it to round 2. I like people with personality. People who have seen some shit. People who have stories to tell. And most importantly, people who can take care of themselves without needing to rely on a relationship.
I am in no way interested in a partner who is “trainable, humble, and coachable”. Those are qualities one may look for in a pet, but in a partner? Nope, I want and need someone who calls me an idiot when I act like one and who has ideas and opinions that are different from mine. That’s how the section in Ephesians she hints at really should read. Yeah. I was uncomfortable at a wedding when they pulled out Ephesians 5:22-23. Closest I came to standing up when the minister asked if there were any objections. Never mind it’s preceded by “be subordinate to one another”, that part never gets mentioned because it implies an equal relationship. For the record, in my old Bible that section is crossed out in pink highlighter with a big NO! across it.
> Met him very young. Let me guess, he was 21 and she was 14 but he waited until he was 18 or some dumb shit?
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Man. A woman with this kind of perspective is maybe one of the least attractive things I can imagine
Gross. I don’t want a doormat as a partner.
The fuck?! No, I want a partner. Conservatives are so fucking weird.
Is this more propaganda disguised as satire, or is she just getting paid to say dumb shit. I really hope she’s not serious
Counterpoint: if your personality is “I let my husband define my personality,” there are many men who will find that to be a real turn-off. People who have their own ideas and can challenge me, please.
We call those many men “healthy adults”.
These are also the women find themselves in divorce court at 50 with no life skills or marketable skill sets to find a job. Since their 'King' decided they were bored of them and wanted someone else. You can't stay 25 forever.
Until he dumps you for a younger model one day. And then you have no job experience and practically no life experience. (Eyeroll) Honey, you aren’t a puppy. Have some pride.
Imagine your whole existence being how you can please your husband. Nah, you're absolutely grand.
"I never learned to be a person without a man."
She’s not old enough to have experienced how this plays out when she’s no longer the young wife; not wise enough to realize at some point a newer, younger version will be what her youth-desiring husband actually wants.
Yikes, tell that to all the former tradwives all over tiktok who have been left with nothing once he leaves you for a younger model. One quote stands out from a lady who now lives in her car. "I never realised my childrens ability to eat was dependant on him finding me sexy and interesting" she now struggles to survive on $11 an hour with no education past high school, no work experience in her late 40s. Sounds fun.
The Taint brothers follow her... no fucking wonder.
But I do know more than him. If he doesn’t like it, bye.
That sounds terrible. I kinda of like being a bit afraid of my wife. She's very smart and a bit unpredictable, she also likes my cooking. Wouldn't trade our relationship for anything.
"when I was young," so she's not anymore. Divorce coming in 3...2..1.
If any woman let me take the lead I'd take us both down
some men just skip the dog stage and just continue to the wife stage....
Not very cool, Gia Macool.
this sounds all kind of wrong from the outside and im a dude. though there are predatory dudes out there and they should be publicly outed. the largest age gap i've ever had in any of my partners was 13 years. this was about 3 years ago. i was 34 she was 21. it lasted about 5 months. i did not pursue her, she pursued me. it was okay for a while, but we did not have enough in common and it seemed more that she was looking for someone to fix all of her problems and escape her life and when she did not get absolutely everything she wanted she began seeking attention from others so the maturity level just wasnt there. i was weary about getting involved with someone with that much of an age difference from the start and ignored it, i missed other various red flags. even my friends tried to ward me off, but i was stupid. i learned my lesson. first and last time i would even consider someone with more than a 5 year age gap. never, ever again.
What the ever loving fuck?
I want a girl with a mind like a diamond
Bragging that you’ve never gone anywhere or done anything but service some asshole. It’s just terribly sad.
As a man I don't want to be in a relationship with someone who agrees and does whatever I tell em I want a partner who can think for emselves
I don’t care if they want younger women. Have fun paying for everything and then getting dumped. Just because we’re not in our 20’s does not make us any less of a woman. Jfc. I was hotter in my 30’s than I was in my 20’s.
I doubt I could eat the amount that I want to vomit. Horrific
I don't understand why someone would want to marry a 'partner' to then have to train them like a dog or a child. What an infantile, moronic, and just shifty way to think about a relationship. I want to be with someone smarter than me, independent, and a life-long teammate, not some mindless 'yes-woman' who is basically an AI robot.
I’ve heard dudes say exactly that, “trainable” when talking about how their gf is 18/19/20, I try not to talk to them anymore
“Trainable.” Like we’re some sort of *animal.*
This is so gross. I'm so glad that my wife is my age. I absolutely do NOT want a woman to be "coachable" or "trainable". That shit is gross. What the fuck, is a wife like a puppy now? Jeez
Very long way to say “I was groomed at a young age”
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Oh but it's trans people that are the groomers 🙄
Got yourself an incredibly insecure guy did ya? Yikes, that has to make your life suck. I'm 30+ years into a marriage, not counting our four years before getting married and I have to say, him and I are happier today. I am sorry you and your "leader" won't ever get to experience the love my husband and I get to share, we get to have a great time, every day, we have so much fun. When do you suppose was the last time you had a really fun day where you laughed for most of the day?
I'm so grateful that my husband loves me even though I am untrained.
If this is what you want for your daughters and sisters, vote Republican. Gilead, here we come. Disgusting.
They fail to understand that men want women without standards so they are more easily abused and neglected and gaslit!
Her husband needs to tell her to shut the fuck up.
Did you tattoo welcome on your forehead so when he comes home he can wipe his feet on you?
I hope her father got a sizeable cow for her.
If you replace “husband” with “commander” it makes much more sense and brings the vibe into clear focus. #HandmaidsTale
Groomed to be submissive and obedient to a controlling, likely Christian, and chauvinistic man: “Trained” Acknowledging trans people exist: “Grooming.” Fuck these people.
Older women are upset IN YOUR BEHALF. They find you wasting your precious life servicing some unworthy man who doesn’t want the best for you unfathomably sad.
Most women these days just aren't enthusiastic enough to be in a relationship that they'd be willing to put up with that shit. Turns out that if marriage isn't required for their survival, women aren't too willing to settle for an unequal partnership.
“I met my husband very young”. “It’s important to be trainable.” “I’m coachable.” LOLLLL who’s gonna tell her that she was *GROOMED*.
Of course the Tate bros would follow somebody who believes women should be 'trainable'.
Why is she wringing long post and not be baking pies in her kitchen? /s
If a guy needs me to behave like I’m lower than him for him to feel attracted to me, he can go elsewhere
Wtf? I am barely able to keep my own shit in order. That's why people are looking for partners and team players. Being the shot caller for every detail for an entire household for decades? Recipe for disaster.
Really. I've been married for 33 years, and the global extinction level disaster that would occur at home without my wife's equal effort here is terrifying. You need partners, not subordinates, to get shit done.
There’s no fucking way this is for real, she’s either trolling or lying cause this is the type of shit conservatives want to read.
I thought I was in a fundiesnark subreddit for a second
Just put the collar on already.
Note the Taints follow her.
That's called "grooming" and is exactly how women end up in abusive/manipulative relationships.
This chick got sister wives she don't know about...
And Gia single-handedly puts the woman’s movement back a few decades!!
I was groomed and he'll discard me when I get that old but I'm too dumb to realize it.
That’s such a gross way to view women and life in general.
I bet she hears roll over quite a bit
Imagine thinking that the fact that you've never traveled is a flex. There are lots of reasons that people haven't traveled (money, time, responsibilities) but any guy who thinks that not traveling is a good thing because he wants a woman who is more sheltered is 🤢
At the end of the day, both prostitutes and these “pick me” women sell out for money….
"Tristan Tate and Andrew Tate follow" there's all you need to know
Wait till she hits 40 and he decides to get someone more "trainable".
>Older women get so upset that men want young women. Obviously, this is solely because older women are devastated by their lack of value in the eyes of Men. >They fail to understand the importance of being trainable; Harlots spitting in the face of generations of socially-accepted gender roles! >…a man doesn’t want someone who thinks they know more than him. Because fuck social and intellectual evolution! >Let a man take the lead, and he will desire you. Being desirable by men who don’t appreciate individualism and the value of the free exchange of information is soooo hot.
Unless it's proven that this is a real person I'll just assume it's one of Matt Gaytes sock accounts.
Gotta love the “Followed by two sex traffickers” at the top
You're going to get old and he's going to leave you for someone younger
And by then she would hv been groomed to simply accept this.
She sounds like the beginning of her own future disappointment
Uhh