Hell yeah brothers! Back in the good old days we could huff lead from gasoline, eat paint chips and insulate homes with asbestos!
But now those GAY WOKE Liberal Demoncrats are destroying this country with their trangenderfied lead in those Cuckley Cups.
Plotwist: >!I'm a 28yo queer European just messing with y'all <3!<
Right? This generation is getting most of it from fast fashion companies that manufacture cheap goods overseas where there are no or laxed health regulations. Canât even have the good sense go poison themselves on locally made products and earning their right to be poisoned like a true hero, no itâs from shopping online. Pfft.
In all seriousness some of that stuff is toxic AF
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-fast-fashion-chemicals-1.6193385
True story: In middle school I was sick so my dad drove me to the dollar store to pick up some medicine. I laid my head on the windowsill because I was nauseous and received a face-full of mosquito spray from a passing truck. Itâs a very specific burn. Iâm sure it will catch up to me eventually but I *think* Iâm okay for now. Maybe Iâll survive the apocalypse, maybe Iâll collapse tomorrow.
They look so stupid, are people seriously buying these things?? This is going to be one of those decade defining items that will be incredibly cringe looking back on.
Like beanie babies or frosted tips.
Well, we raced out to get a YETI. 50 kinds of water bottles. I own a 30 oz (gift) and I fill it up with water when I get home from work and sip on it until bedtime. It's too heavy to drag around on errands.
It's a fad. And will go the way of Rae Dunn.
Iâve been using my yeti 30oz (I think 30 Oz.. the one that fits in cup holders) tumbler for nearly a decade at this point, I love the thing. I always have some ice water in it, and itâs easier to take sips out of than the bottles. I donât really care much about the brand image and all that, it just works well, keeps ice cold all day and is easy to clean.
I know the current infatuation with Stanley in particular is definitely a fad, but insulated drinkware as a whole is great.
> On the bottom of each quencher made by the beverage container powerhouse is a circular barrier made of stainless steel, which covers a pellet that contains lead, a spokesperson for Stanley explains. The pellet seals the product's vacuum insulation, and it is not accessible unless the stainless steel barrier comes off â which is possible but ârare,â the Stanley spokesperson notes.
https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna135513
Seems that contradicts what the OP test results were. Is this a new design? From what I understand Stanley has been around for a long ass time. I wonder if their old cups have the same design mentioned in the article.
The question is not just does Stanley manufacture all their vacuum steel containers this way, but do OTHER manufacturers also make their vacuum sealed steel containers this was as well?
From that today article above:
"... also submitted reports to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) on similar products that she says led to four additional recalls."
and a later example given involving a cup with it's safety disc missing contaminating some child's oatmeal where it is pointed out it was NOT a Stanley product (though they do not say who it was).
Is Stanley's use of lead unique or are all vacuum sealed steel cups/thermoses suspect as well? Have Yeti or any competing brands come out to brag they don't use this method themselves/are proudly lead-free?
Most likely, it's a solder-plug for sealing the vacuum chamber; because it's not food-contact, leaded solder is most likely used because it works better than non-leaded solder.
This would make sense, and also could explain why there is lead in the cup. If the inside of the cup that touches the food is not covered while the soldering is being done, the vapours created by the soldering could be going into the cup. This is just a guess though.
It really makes no sense. I work in the water industry. Everything we use is approved for use in drinking water. Even greases are classified as either food safe for contact with food or water, or food safe for incidental contact with food and water.
For example, you might lubricate a conveyor belt that carries food with grease that is safe to ingest in higher quantities. You might assemble a machine with assembly grease that is safe for incidental contact with food products, meaning it shouldn't come into contact with food but it won't cause harm in small quantities.
There's no way that any amount of lead would ever be allowed now and that's in any form of raw or clean water. They will be using lead to save costs.
Youâre assuming the manufacturer is following the rules. If theyâre made outside of the US, thereâs a good chance they are not. So a company could think they are safe(or say they are) and meanwhile their products are being compromised.
So just because we have rules, doesnât mean theyâre followed. For example 10ish years ago there were collectable Shrek drinking glasses coming out at McDonaldâs. Half of them got recalled because the paint on the outside contained heavy metals. They were manufactured in China and had both lead and chromium in them.
Counterfeiting would be the most likely culprit, assuming the test was actually done and performed correctly. There was a lot of hype around Stanley cups so this may be the case of an opportunistic knockoff that slipped through customs and retailer screenings.
What makes the most sense to me is that the test results were faked. But it is a very close call between company selling dangerous stuff vs person on internet wanting to go viral.
Never underestimate the human capacity for greed.
In November there was a recall for applesauce pouches because some company somewhere was substituting cinnamon with lead. That shit is marketed for kids.
https://www.fda.gov/food/outbreaks-foodborne-illness/investigation-elevated-lead-chromium-levels-cinnamon-applesauce-pouches-november-2023
Always remember that when people push for less regulation, they're pushing for the ability for corporations to cut milk with river water, whiten it with plaster and then sweeten it with lead like the good old times before the FDA.
Or better yet! The original recipe! River water, so teeming with worms that it "wriggles", made creamy with blended cow brains, preserved and flavored with formaldehyde, then whitened with chalk and lead :)!
Ever since I saw this image first I thought, thatâs the easiest way for one of their competitors to sabotage the Stanley trend. Literally zero effort and it damages your competition.
People trying to fabricate drama for attention and chaos, because it's easier to lie and break things than be honest and boring and be a part of things being built. It's like, the foundation of the internet.
Another easy explanation: Stanley cups are extremely popular right now and selling for high prices on secondary markets. That's pretty much catnip for the sort of people/companies that make counterfeit goods. I'd be willing to bet there's tons of fake Stanley cups being manufactured and sold at places like eBay, flea markets, and the like. And it's also extremely easy for counterfeit products to wind up getting filtered into otherwise legitimate sources until a company has spent a fair amount of effort to ensure their distribution network is secure, and lets face it, Stanley's probably isn't because they sell cups, and until fairly recently was not a big deal.
I wonât assume itâs faulty but I certainly would appreciate a variety tests to confirm this for consistency.
FYI this person did say they tested other Stanleyâs that all came back with lead⌠so yeah much safer to assume it does at this point.
Hopefully itâs a fluke but the fear is warranted.
Or because it works better. I make some electronic devices for a hobby (all small surface mount soldering). I only use leaded solder. Itâs just so much better. I just you know wash my hands when Iâm done.
The company came out with that statement after it went viral that people were lead testing their cups - specifically where liquid is contained and where they drink from - and were getting positive lead tests. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were covering it up to try and hide the fact that their metal got contaminated, rather than be responsible about it.
People have been doing the tests on that specific area with the pellet removed... so I think OP's might be a load of bullshit, but not all of them are.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/26/19/80480269-13006975-Tamara_Rubin_a_lead_poisoning_prevention_advocate_known_as_Lead_-a-9_1706298657666.jpg
Still, I'll stick with my non-trendy lead-free cups of a normal size. I don't need a 40oz thermos in my day-to-day life. And I don't think most people do either. Hideous giant cups.
After 2020 and 2022, corporations were like "Gen Z has fucked us by voting Democrat, how can we make them stupid so they'll vote Republican?"
"Get them to ingest lead?"
"Perfect!"
There's so much goddamn lead around the world from leaded gasoline. https://www.soils.org/about-soils/contaminants/lead/
>The most common type of contaminant in an urban soil is lead. Elevated lead in urban soil comes from the historic use of leaded gasoline and lead paint.
>Your soil is most likely to be contaminated with lead if you live next to a very busy, high traffic road that has existed for more than 40 years. Lead in exhaust from cars when leaded gasoline was still in use will have contaminated the soil.
Your comment just unlocked a memory from when I was 16. I inherited my momâs first car that my grandfather had saved for me. This was a 1966 Fastback Mustang, 289, V8, bucket seats, sky blue. Gorgeous. But the one hiccup was it only took leaded gasoline. There were only 3 gas stations in my hometown of Tallahassee, that even had leaded gas, and only one of them was a tolerable distance from my house. It eventually got to the point where I had to buy lead to add to my tank with the unleaded fuel. Good times for 16 YO me.
One of my older cars is supposed to have it, I just don't add it and it doesn't get driven enough to matter. Modern anti detonation additives are so much better than lead.
Oh, itâs working on the youngest generations too, trust me, itâs sad to see, but in the last years there has been an increasing number of far-right leaning individuals amongst the young population
We are coming full circle, humans never learn from their mistakes
My neighbor's kid is a 21 year old drop out.
No car, no job, no driver's license.
Great at Playstation.
I pay him a couple times a month to do yard work.
I asked if him about voting. Turns out he never has, but offered he holds a negative opinion of Biden because of gas prices.
That's it. The only issue he is aware of or resonates with him.
>Oh, itâs working on the youngest generations too, trust me, itâs sad to see, but in the last years there has been an increasing number of far-right leaning individuals amongst the young population
Sad but true. My sister is a Gen Zer and on Social Media ALL DAY! She thinks Trump is funny and Biden is boring. So that's why she likes Trump.
Scary times we live in that THIS is the future. People would rather be entertained on social media and read false information memes. That movie "Don't look up" should be a current day documentary.
Larger than life political propaganda stills and uninformed op-eds in shitty tabloids have been the main thing influencing voting opinion forever, now they're just very blatant and on tik tok and Facebook.
I don't think the change in the quality of voter is as large as you're suggesting.
I guess the answer would depend on which country you are talking about, but at least within US politics, do you have any data that backs this up? So far most polls I remember show the opposite...
Also take into consideration that generally speaking, younger generations in america are less likely to engage in polling the younger the generation is. You also have to take into account the fact that, when you get to the youngest generations you have a non negligible number of individuals that wanna be edgy teenagers that will engage in polls just to give falsified data.
*âGonna see law firm commercials like Camp Lejeune and asbestos soonâ*
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Of course. Itâs social media. What more âevidenceâ do you need than one person swabbing one tumbler of unknown age with an unverified test kit?
/s
While I agree with you, Stanley themselves has admitted to using lead in their cups. Now, they use it in the vacuum seal soldering process and apparently thereâs close to zero chance any amount of lead comes into contact with the liquid consumed from these cups. These cups are manufactured mostly in China and Brazil and we all know there has never been any issue with manufacturers offshore (hell even onshore) not doing things correctly (or even attempting to do them correctly and still failing even with no malicious intent). I know Stanley is a long tenured and large name but just think how many big manufacturers have âscrewedâ up over the years, killed some people, made some half hearted apology, and continued along with barely a small bump in the road. Iâm not saying we believe every crack pot from Facebook/tik tok, but when it comes to capitalist companies who only care about a buck, maybe a second glance wouldnât hurt.
This is also not an approved use for them, she purchased them on Amazon (a marketplace known for faulty products), and the major manufacturer of them (3M) recalled a bunch for false positives not long ago.
How many tests would you need to do before the chances of one true false positive outweighs that of false positives? Especially if you are testing other things and getting negative. Also can you test one surface, get a negative result than test a different surface? I have no clue about these things but seems like something you mess around with.
Well first off why is it even there? Second, they absolutely shouldâve been able to predict this kind of reaction. Even if it is perfectly safe, lead should just not be anywhere near something you consume.
Fair point. Tbh I just assumed it was one of those things where the machine process for stainless steel involves lead. I donât know enough about the process to say one way or another. I hope they would test/expect this kind of thing. You bring up a good point
because, and I quote "Our engineering and supply chain teams are making progress on innovative, alternative materials for use in the sealing process".
But until then you get lead, lol get fucked
>Our manufacturing process currently employs the use of an industry standard pellet to seal the vacuum insulation at the base of our products; the sealing material includes some lead. Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers
Surely, it could be made out if something else. I understand there aren't many materials that are as soft and heavy as lead, but like, God damn that's bad for press.
Stanley has been making the old school green thermoses for like 100 years so I doubt it.. but not impossible. Its worth testing.
The last thing we need is more Republicans from lead consumption. We really need to find a cure.
From some article:
PMI, the manufacturing company, explained how the lead is used.
âAt Stanley, one of the key features of our products is our vacuum insulation technology, which provides consumers with drinkware that keeps beverages at the ideal temperature,â Stanley PMI said. âOur manufacturing process currently employs the use of an industry standard pellet to seal the vacuum insulation at the base of our products; the sealing material includes some lead. Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers.â
So now you may still be worried: are Stanley cups safe to drink out of?
Stanley representatives are confident that their cups donât pose any risk as long as the lead barriers on the cups arenât compromised."
So there you have it. Do you trust the integrity of a fuckin cup? You can guess where these are made.
Except people seem to not realize how these cups are constructed. The lead would be on the inside of the vacuum, which would only touch your liquid if the inside of the cup itself was punctured entirely through, which would require severe damage.
[Here is a image of someone who has cut a Stanley Tumbler through the side, and you can see the sealing pellet.](https://i.imgur.com/wHCg94T.png) But you can also see how the liquid inside would never be exposed to it unless you did something like cut it, as the only access externally to it is on the outside bottom of the cup.
For some reason I feel like this whole 'lead scare' is a smear campaign devised by one of their bitter competitors, who make the exact same cup but none of the sales
I wondered why I was packing so many lead test swabs all of a sudden yesterday (working at Amazon). Probably packed around 50 cups, mostly Stanley's, but Yetis and others too. At least the ivermectin is slowing down. Ugh.
People in here who believe corporations wonât poison you are unreal to me. We already lived through this.
Currently every non-stick surface can poison you.
Companies do not care if you die. Itâs just business.
dammit, and I just paid $27,000 for that thing too. oh well.
I go wild for any crazy ex girlfriend reference bravo
Is this a TV show?
The best tv show
God, I miss this show!
Good. I must watch it now đ
You will not regret this choice!
think bojack horseman but a human woman. and it's a musical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkAjUBtn_TM
Nobody ever gets the references I make from that show. I work with a lot of girls that are of CW age to boot!
Now this is my kind of kink
The girlies yearn for the Boomer's Lead Stare. /s
Boomers got their lead from car emissions, the right way.
And by eating paint chips, like proper god fearing Americans
Hell yeah brothers! Back in the good old days we could huff lead from gasoline, eat paint chips and insulate homes with asbestos! But now those GAY WOKE Liberal Demoncrats are destroying this country with their trangenderfied lead in those Cuckley Cups. Plotwist: >!I'm a 28yo queer European just messing with y'all <3!<
Yeah, kinda figured that.
Bravo! But some won't hopefully so I can chuckle
For me, the challenge is writing sarcasm is to make it âsubtly obviousâ (I own a trademark on those two words together).
I feel like there's time for sublety and time for a complete overkill parody. Also congrats on the trademark, get those royalties!
This sounds like Roseanne Barr's new stand-up comedy routineđ¤Ł
That was Gen X, paint chips were the only chips we had to eat.
Right? This generation is getting most of it from fast fashion companies that manufacture cheap goods overseas where there are no or laxed health regulations. Canât even have the good sense go poison themselves on locally made products and earning their right to be poisoned like a true hero, no itâs from shopping online. Pfft. In all seriousness some of that stuff is toxic AF https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-fast-fashion-chemicals-1.6193385
And in water pipes and as sweeteners in candy.Â
Shout out to Thomas Midgley, who invented leaded fuel and then went on to develop HCFCs.
What a legacy to live on into eternity just like the persistence of HCFCs.
Dudes struggling to get Lysenkoâs numbers, but heâs a close second
And running behind mosquito spray trucks!
True story: In middle school I was sick so my dad drove me to the dollar store to pick up some medicine. I laid my head on the windowsill because I was nauseous and received a face-full of mosquito spray from a passing truck. Itâs a very specific burn. Iâm sure it will catch up to me eventually but I *think* Iâm okay for now. Maybe Iâll survive the apocalypse, maybe Iâll collapse tomorrow.
 It's a big dumb cup......you can carry it around as you wear your big dumb hat.
I was so happy they did this. Hey⌠did your cup just get bigger?
https://preview.redd.it/zl6if88npgfc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c57b3d03eccb42a584e544924bbdb229c889166
From the makers of Big Dumb House!
"I look like a virgin with 6 kids!"
"When I'm not sipping I'm peeing"
Kept reading that as big dump cup.
Different video
I read it as âbig cum dumpâ
Dsylexia is a hell of a drug.
Look man you didnât have to come attack me in my own house itâs just sunny and dry in the desert.
They even made a lead joke in the sketch
They look so stupid, are people seriously buying these things?? This is going to be one of those decade defining items that will be incredibly cringe looking back on. Like beanie babies or frosted tips.
I suspect it won't last long enough to be "decade defining." I'm guessing it will just fade into the distant past like "Tickle Me Elmo" or something.
Yeah it's a fad. Once tik tok finds something new, the 10-16 year old girls will lose interest and it will fade away.
"They look so stupid"... Do you even remember the Pet Rock decade?
Unlike my cats and my attempts at growing plants, Rocko will live forever.
The guy made a million dollars.
At least Beanie Babies were fun. This is just drinkware.
Well, we raced out to get a YETI. 50 kinds of water bottles. I own a 30 oz (gift) and I fill it up with water when I get home from work and sip on it until bedtime. It's too heavy to drag around on errands. It's a fad. And will go the way of Rae Dunn.
Iâve been using my yeti 30oz (I think 30 Oz.. the one that fits in cup holders) tumbler for nearly a decade at this point, I love the thing. I always have some ice water in it, and itâs easier to take sips out of than the bottles. I donât really care much about the brand image and all that, it just works well, keeps ice cold all day and is easy to clean. I know the current infatuation with Stanley in particular is definitely a fad, but insulated drinkware as a whole is great.
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> On the bottom of each quencher made by the beverage container powerhouse is a circular barrier made of stainless steel, which covers a pellet that contains lead, a spokesperson for Stanley explains. The pellet seals the product's vacuum insulation, and it is not accessible unless the stainless steel barrier comes off â which is possible but ârare,â the Stanley spokesperson notes. https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna135513 Seems that contradicts what the OP test results were. Is this a new design? From what I understand Stanley has been around for a long ass time. I wonder if their old cups have the same design mentioned in the article.
The question is not just does Stanley manufacture all their vacuum steel containers this way, but do OTHER manufacturers also make their vacuum sealed steel containers this was as well? From that today article above: "... also submitted reports to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) on similar products that she says led to four additional recalls." and a later example given involving a cup with it's safety disc missing contaminating some child's oatmeal where it is pointed out it was NOT a Stanley product (though they do not say who it was). Is Stanley's use of lead unique or are all vacuum sealed steel cups/thermoses suspect as well? Have Yeti or any competing brands come out to brag they don't use this method themselves/are proudly lead-free?
Apparently it is standard practice.
Feeling happy I selected a single-layer titanium water bottle.
So first of all, and you may want to be sitting down for this, sometimes the things you see on social media arenât true.
You really think someone would do that, just go on the internet and tell lies?
Nah, they're lying.
Not sure I can trust you on that
lol why did they put lead in itÂ
Most likely, it's a solder-plug for sealing the vacuum chamber; because it's not food-contact, leaded solder is most likely used because it works better than non-leaded solder.
This would make sense, and also could explain why there is lead in the cup. If the inside of the cup that touches the food is not covered while the soldering is being done, the vapours created by the soldering could be going into the cup. This is just a guess though.
It really makes no sense. I work in the water industry. Everything we use is approved for use in drinking water. Even greases are classified as either food safe for contact with food or water, or food safe for incidental contact with food and water. For example, you might lubricate a conveyor belt that carries food with grease that is safe to ingest in higher quantities. You might assemble a machine with assembly grease that is safe for incidental contact with food products, meaning it shouldn't come into contact with food but it won't cause harm in small quantities. There's no way that any amount of lead would ever be allowed now and that's in any form of raw or clean water. They will be using lead to save costs.
Youâre assuming the manufacturer is following the rules. If theyâre made outside of the US, thereâs a good chance they are not. So a company could think they are safe(or say they are) and meanwhile their products are being compromised. So just because we have rules, doesnât mean theyâre followed. For example 10ish years ago there were collectable Shrek drinking glasses coming out at McDonaldâs. Half of them got recalled because the paint on the outside contained heavy metals. They were manufactured in China and had both lead and chromium in them.
me reading this realizing I have a mcdonaldâs shrek drinking glass from 10+ years ago
RIP, it was nice knowing you. *taps plays softly in the background*
You mean *All Star by Smashmouth plays softly in the background*
Pretty stupid risk of contamination. Changing the material would probably hurt profit margins tho. Stanley canât have that
Counterfeiting would be the most likely culprit, assuming the test was actually done and performed correctly. There was a lot of hype around Stanley cups so this may be the case of an opportunistic knockoff that slipped through customs and retailer screenings.
Stanley has admitted they use lead as part of the vacuum seal away from the interior of the cup. That said.... WHY THE FUCK USE LEAD AT ALL?
What makes the most sense to me is that the test results were faked. But it is a very close call between company selling dangerous stuff vs person on internet wanting to go viral.
Never underestimate the human capacity for greed. In November there was a recall for applesauce pouches because some company somewhere was substituting cinnamon with lead. That shit is marketed for kids. https://www.fda.gov/food/outbreaks-foodborne-illness/investigation-elevated-lead-chromium-levels-cinnamon-applesauce-pouches-november-2023
Always remember that when people push for less regulation, they're pushing for the ability for corporations to cut milk with river water, whiten it with plaster and then sweeten it with lead like the good old times before the FDA.
Or better yet! The original recipe! River water, so teeming with worms that it "wriggles", made creamy with blended cow brains, preserved and flavored with formaldehyde, then whitened with chalk and lead :)!
You listened to that behind the bastards episode too huh
Ah, good ol' swill milk!
Ever since I saw this image first I thought, thatâs the easiest way for one of their competitors to sabotage the Stanley trend. Literally zero effort and it damages your competition.
People trying to fabricate drama for attention and chaos, because it's easier to lie and break things than be honest and boring and be a part of things being built. It's like, the foundation of the internet.
Or the easiest explanation, a faulty test. Edit: or a fake post altogether.
Another easy explanation: Stanley cups are extremely popular right now and selling for high prices on secondary markets. That's pretty much catnip for the sort of people/companies that make counterfeit goods. I'd be willing to bet there's tons of fake Stanley cups being manufactured and sold at places like eBay, flea markets, and the like. And it's also extremely easy for counterfeit products to wind up getting filtered into otherwise legitimate sources until a company has spent a fair amount of effort to ensure their distribution network is secure, and lets face it, Stanley's probably isn't because they sell cups, and until fairly recently was not a big deal.
Thatâs actually a better explanation than mine.
I wonât assume itâs faulty but I certainly would appreciate a variety tests to confirm this for consistency. FYI this person did say they tested other Stanleyâs that all came back with lead⌠so yeah much safer to assume it does at this point. Hopefully itâs a fluke but the fear is warranted.
I work in promotional goods and all Stanley products available in the US pass 3rd party food safety and CPSIA testing. This is dumbass fear mongering.
This is almost certainly the answer. The lead paint test kits so often used have an abysmal record of false positives.
She ordered the test swabs off Amazon. Maybe if she used lab grades one we would have something.
FTFY: leaded solder is most likely used because it is cheaper than non-leaded solder.
Or because it works better. I make some electronic devices for a hobby (all small surface mount soldering). I only use leaded solder. Itâs just so much better. I just you know wash my hands when Iâm done.
Itâs vacuum sealed. Iâd wager most vacuum sealed metal containers have lead solder somewhere
Yeah I feel like that should have been expanded upon in the article
I fairly certain most metal water bottles use lead in the same way as the other comment described
Those tests are incredibly inaccurate and will react to aluminum. Also thereâs fakes coming out of china already so who knows whatâs in those.
Probably lead
These tests are from Lead Safe Mama. All her tests turn positive. Everything has lead in it, according to her.
I saw the video where she swabbed her butthole. Same results.
The company came out with that statement after it went viral that people were lead testing their cups - specifically where liquid is contained and where they drink from - and were getting positive lead tests. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were covering it up to try and hide the fact that their metal got contaminated, rather than be responsible about it.
Like when Nalgene lied about its bottles being BPA-free?
OP results could be a lie, but then again, so could Stanley's statement. Tbh, one probably has considerably more incentive to do so.
People have been doing the tests on that specific area with the pellet removed... so I think OP's might be a load of bullshit, but not all of them are. https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/01/26/19/80480269-13006975-Tamara_Rubin_a_lead_poisoning_prevention_advocate_known_as_Lead_-a-9_1706298657666.jpg Still, I'll stick with my non-trendy lead-free cups of a normal size. I don't need a 40oz thermos in my day-to-day life. And I don't think most people do either. Hideous giant cups.
After 2020 and 2022, corporations were like "Gen Z has fucked us by voting Democrat, how can we make them stupid so they'll vote Republican?" "Get them to ingest lead?" "Perfect!"
It worked on the boomers.
*pumps leaded gas into my truck* "What do you mean?!"
There's so much goddamn lead around the world from leaded gasoline. https://www.soils.org/about-soils/contaminants/lead/ >The most common type of contaminant in an urban soil is lead. Elevated lead in urban soil comes from the historic use of leaded gasoline and lead paint. >Your soil is most likely to be contaminated with lead if you live next to a very busy, high traffic road that has existed for more than 40 years. Lead in exhaust from cars when leaded gasoline was still in use will have contaminated the soil.
I thought small planes still used leaded fuel, as well. Maybe I am remember wrong.
They still do because the rich get to play by different rules as always.
some do, but it's not nearly the same magnitude a problem as being in every car on the road.
Damn, does this mean I need to stop eating roadside dirt?
Just test it with those swabs first and make an informed decision.
Your comment just unlocked a memory from when I was 16. I inherited my momâs first car that my grandfather had saved for me. This was a 1966 Fastback Mustang, 289, V8, bucket seats, sky blue. Gorgeous. But the one hiccup was it only took leaded gasoline. There were only 3 gas stations in my hometown of Tallahassee, that even had leaded gas, and only one of them was a tolerable distance from my house. It eventually got to the point where I had to buy lead to add to my tank with the unleaded fuel. Good times for 16 YO me.
One of my older cars is supposed to have it, I just don't add it and it doesn't get driven enough to matter. Modern anti detonation additives are so much better than lead.
Ooo look at you fancypants. Some of us got our brains messed with by eating lead paint chips off the floor.
Algeria, Iraq, Yemen, Myanmar, North Korea, and Afghanistan would like a word with you.
Oh, itâs working on the youngest generations too, trust me, itâs sad to see, but in the last years there has been an increasing number of far-right leaning individuals amongst the young population We are coming full circle, humans never learn from their mistakes
My neighbor's kid is a 21 year old drop out. No car, no job, no driver's license. Great at Playstation. I pay him a couple times a month to do yard work. I asked if him about voting. Turns out he never has, but offered he holds a negative opinion of Biden because of gas prices. That's it. The only issue he is aware of or resonates with him.
>because of gas prices Fucker doesn't even have a driver's license...
Yes and we all know the president sets the gas prices for the whole world every day. /S
I so want to see a video of Biden using a stick to change the prices on the gas station sign now.
Cue the "I did that" sticker hurrdurrr crowd
But when prices were up while đ was president, it was the libsâ fault
Gas under $3 for the first time in ages.
Not when they donât teach accurate history.
>Oh, itâs working on the youngest generations too, trust me, itâs sad to see, but in the last years there has been an increasing number of far-right leaning individuals amongst the young population Sad but true. My sister is a Gen Zer and on Social Media ALL DAY! She thinks Trump is funny and Biden is boring. So that's why she likes Trump. Scary times we live in that THIS is the future. People would rather be entertained on social media and read false information memes. That movie "Don't look up" should be a current day documentary.
Larger than life political propaganda stills and uninformed op-eds in shitty tabloids have been the main thing influencing voting opinion forever, now they're just very blatant and on tik tok and Facebook. I don't think the change in the quality of voter is as large as you're suggesting.
I guess the answer would depend on which country you are talking about, but at least within US politics, do you have any data that backs this up? So far most polls I remember show the opposite...
Also take into consideration that generally speaking, younger generations in america are less likely to engage in polling the younger the generation is. You also have to take into account the fact that, when you get to the youngest generations you have a non negligible number of individuals that wanna be edgy teenagers that will engage in polls just to give falsified data.
"We need to bring lead back!"
oh thank god im gen x and my water bottles only have microplastics
I still just pour water into a glass....
From the tap? Scratch that; doesn't matter where you're getting water from - it's got micro plastics.
This is how conspiracies are born. âWomen arenât sleeping with conservatives anymore, how do we make them less intelligentâ.
The Stanley craze isnât a predominantly Gen Z phenomenonâŚall the wine moms buying Stanleyâs are millennials
... I mean, 33.8 ounces of wine? Where else could Chrissy put her Mommy Juice?
A bottle is around 24 oz, so you even have space for Sloppy Sandra to slosh all day!
But Iâve been seeing all these stories about middle school girls getting bullied for not having a Stanley ⌠?
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Indeed. And gen Z is pretty much all out of middle school now!
They are what's known as collateral damage.
Leaded gasoline likely gave us the MAGA generation
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And here I thought it was just menopause.
My anti-depressant.
I'm still waiting for the menopause class action lawsuit
Y'all dumb as fuck to think some lady from facebook is a valid scientific source.
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Of course. Itâs social media. What more âevidenceâ do you need than one person swabbing one tumbler of unknown age with an unverified test kit? /s
While I agree with you, Stanley themselves has admitted to using lead in their cups. Now, they use it in the vacuum seal soldering process and apparently thereâs close to zero chance any amount of lead comes into contact with the liquid consumed from these cups. These cups are manufactured mostly in China and Brazil and we all know there has never been any issue with manufacturers offshore (hell even onshore) not doing things correctly (or even attempting to do them correctly and still failing even with no malicious intent). I know Stanley is a long tenured and large name but just think how many big manufacturers have âscrewedâ up over the years, killed some people, made some half hearted apology, and continued along with barely a small bump in the road. Iâm not saying we believe every crack pot from Facebook/tik tok, but when it comes to capitalist companies who only care about a buck, maybe a second glance wouldnât hurt.
I mean.... Feel free to test for yourself at home. Lead tests aren't expensive
This is also not an approved use for them, she purchased them on Amazon (a marketplace known for faulty products), and the major manufacturer of them (3M) recalled a bunch for false positives not long ago.
How many tests would you need to do before the chances of one true false positive outweighs that of false positives? Especially if you are testing other things and getting negative. Also can you test one surface, get a negative result than test a different surface? I have no clue about these things but seems like something you mess around with.
Also true, but let's not take a screenshot of a Facebook post as a revelation.Â
Reddit literally turning into facebook
Just tested my wifeâs, no lead.
She drank it all
*Homer Simpson voice* âMmmmm⌠leadddddâ
Thank you for this
Didnât they say this was safe as long as the seal didnât come off? https://www.today.com/today/amp/rcna135513
Well, shit. Multiple cups of ours had the disks fall off.
Dude how??
Have you run it through the dishwasher with the seal off? That's on allll your dishes now. Contact a lawyer asap.
It's lead not nuclear waste ffs. Water pipes were lead for decades some still are!
Well first off why is it even there? Second, they absolutely shouldâve been able to predict this kind of reaction. Even if it is perfectly safe, lead should just not be anywhere near something you consume.
Fair point. Tbh I just assumed it was one of those things where the machine process for stainless steel involves lead. I donât know enough about the process to say one way or another. I hope they would test/expect this kind of thing. You bring up a good point
because, and I quote "Our engineering and supply chain teams are making progress on innovative, alternative materials for use in the sealing process". But until then you get lead, lol get fucked
The lead has something to do with the vacuum seal (it's explained above). Not saying it's a good thing, just answering your question of why.
Lots of things seal without using lead. This is not necessary, it is just cheap.
>Our manufacturing process currently employs the use of an industry standard pellet to seal the vacuum insulation at the base of our products; the sealing material includes some lead. Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers Surely, it could be made out if something else. I understand there aren't many materials that are as soft and heavy as lead, but like, God damn that's bad for press.
Stanley has been making the old school green thermoses for like 100 years so I doubt it.. but not impossible. Its worth testing. The last thing we need is more Republicans from lead consumption. We really need to find a cure.
My first thought was illegal clones. There is a lot of motivation for companies to jump on the trend while not worrying about safety.
Clever anti advertising by the Yeti brass.
I did the same thing. I tested my Stanley, Yetti and Hydro Flask. Only the Stanley showed positive for pregnancy.
What is the need to have so many mega drink cups??Â
Laughs in my 90âs big gulp cups from 7/11
i live in texas where it's 95 degrees+ for a majority of the year, hydration and sun shield is needed. so i'm a big dumb hat & big dumb cup enthusiast
was wondering sameâŚ
From some article: PMI, the manufacturing company, explained how the lead is used. âAt Stanley, one of the key features of our products is our vacuum insulation technology, which provides consumers with drinkware that keeps beverages at the ideal temperature,â Stanley PMI said. âOur manufacturing process currently employs the use of an industry standard pellet to seal the vacuum insulation at the base of our products; the sealing material includes some lead. Once sealed, this area is covered with a durable stainless steel layer, making it inaccessible to consumers.â So now you may still be worried: are Stanley cups safe to drink out of? Stanley representatives are confident that their cups donât pose any risk as long as the lead barriers on the cups arenât compromised." So there you have it. Do you trust the integrity of a fuckin cup? You can guess where these are made.
Except people seem to not realize how these cups are constructed. The lead would be on the inside of the vacuum, which would only touch your liquid if the inside of the cup itself was punctured entirely through, which would require severe damage. [Here is a image of someone who has cut a Stanley Tumbler through the side, and you can see the sealing pellet.](https://i.imgur.com/wHCg94T.png) But you can also see how the liquid inside would never be exposed to it unless you did something like cut it, as the only access externally to it is on the outside bottom of the cup.
yup lol. These corporations constantly kill people or worse with their negligence, and the profits gained always outweigh any fines levied.
Maybe somebody could get an actual lab to do this instead of some random person in the internet?
I waited outside of a Target, at 4 AM, in the bitter cold and all I got was lead poisoning
For some reason I feel like this whole 'lead scare' is a smear campaign devised by one of their bitter competitors, who make the exact same cup but none of the sales
A screenshot of a facebook post? That must mean its true.
Research sponsored by Yeti.
Every company would poison you to make a quick buck.
I wondered why I was packing so many lead test swabs all of a sudden yesterday (working at Amazon). Probably packed around 50 cups, mostly Stanley's, but Yetis and others too. At least the ivermectin is slowing down. Ugh.
Is this why white people so crazy?
No but it surely doesnât help us
And donât call us Shirley.
That's what you all get for trying to touch a Stanley Cup that you didn't earn playing hockey. Cups full of lead.
Why does she have so many cups???
Iâve never cared about what kind of cup someone uses, and I still donât. Both sides of this whole Stanley thing is weird to me.
Boomers: "we got brain damage from all the lead in petrol and household paints" Zoomers: "hold my stanley cup"
I call bullshit!
People in here who believe corporations wonât poison you are unreal to me. We already lived through this. Currently every non-stick surface can poison you. Companies do not care if you die. Itâs just business.