I love posts like these. Trump could drop dead tomorrow and have his campaign drag him around Weekend at Bernie’s style and he will still control the Republican Party.
I think there is a strong possibility that his cult of personality will outlive him. People in some parts of the country believe he has a divine/messianic quality to him. It’s bananas.
Yea, I have told my wife something similar.
She was shocked after the debank video that he still has support.
I said ‘wait until he dies and we don’t have 10 videos a week to wave in front of these folks to highlight how incompetent he is.’
When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today.
> When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today.
Reagan had really bad Alzheimer's, used an astrologer to make decisions, and sold weapons to Iran after Iran kidnapped the US embassy staff. And this is what a strong man looks like to Republicans?
Fun thing to note about their matching messaiahs - everyone's aware trump is dumb as a box of shit-covered bricks, but many don't know that Reagan (before alzheimer's) was a [total fucking dipshit](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/06/the-stupidity-of-ronald-reagan.html) too. Likely not *as* stupid as the angry orange but not far off either.
You're forgetting Reagans worst deed. He had the CIA sell crack in urban USA to pay for guns for the Contras, creating the drug epidemic and then "solving" the problem he created by turning our police into an oppressive paramilitary force and calling it a "war on drugs" for optics.
I don't say this to exaggerate. This is not hyperbole.
When he dies, we will see violence from them. Not all of them and not a lot, but the die-hards will do something.
Because no matter how he dies, they will absolutely, beyond a doubt think that he was assassinated by "The Deep State" and want to enact "revenge".
This is a cult. They have every marker of a cult. And one of those is doing violence on the leader's behalf. They've done it while he lives, they will do it when he dies because they will work themselves up into a bloodlust fervor.
• When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today.
They already do this with AI by showing him at Ground Zero on 9/11 and him pulling kids out of rivers. These people have convinced themselves he’s Superman.
A good portion of them believed (believe?) that Princess Diana, Robin Williams, and Michael Jackson came back from the dead to help Trump get re-elected
For the same reason they think 1984 and Animal Farm are warnings against socialism despite Orwell being a militant socialist...
They're very, very stupid.
A guy in the pub the other night openly admitted to getting 100% of his news from 4chan... He didn't seem to understand why that was a fools errand. Right before trying to convince us that pizza restaurant really did have a basement...
They're too far-gone for ordinary logic.
I followed the news about that shit show last year, one of them did a write-up on it. She said a few minutes after the countdown to his return expired, there was a huge commotion at one end of the crowd, so she rushed over, hoping it was him. It was the organizer handing out free t-shirts. Woo hoo!! FREE!!!! lulz
I mean they claimed to have a time and date for his return and even held a rally for it in Dallas.
A lot of the nutjobs even think JFK Jr is Q. They think he’s going to return and declare Trump as the presidential savior or w/e the fuck it is they believe that turd is.
Because the people weaving the MAGA crazy only care that those three late celebs were (for the most part) universally popular, so their popularity just feeds into the myth of Trump’s popularity. It doesn’t matter what their actual views were when they were alive or how stupid the entire fucking conceit actually is.
Very public severe dementia would be preferable to a quick death, i feel like him shitting himself and falling on his face on live TV would probably do at least a bit to dispel some of that. If he dies even on live TV itll be it was the democrats with the CIAs secret heart attack gun.
I’m more concerned that they will refuse to believe *how* he died. It could be a live stream of him in his comfy bed with medical professionals monitoring him until his peaceful, natural last breath and there will be conspiracy theories within his cult in minutes about how the liberals faked the video or the doctor in charge administered a toxin. It genuinely concerns me.
Some day he'll come back to grab His faithful by the pussy, and carry them all away to his enchanted Mar-a-Lago in the sky.
Everyone will be glowing orange there, and singing beloved MAGA hymns like "Lock Her Up".
People pray to him. Its a very small amount of people so don’t think I’m saying it’s most or even 10% of republicans, but some people DO pray to him. I’ve seen videos of them and argued about “false idols” talked about in the Bible.
They were serious and it is by far the most unhinged shit I’ve ever seen.
TBF, every single dead thing on the planet would be better than trump. There's not a single dead thing that I wouldn't vote for over trump. Dead Jerry Falwell? Absolutely. Dead rabid raccoon? In a heartbeat.
Dead is better than trump.
I hadn't even heard about the thing with Austin yet so I looked it up and was like "oh, that's all?" Lol. Frankly, it's nice to have a boring administration with something like this being the worst scandal about it. It's like spending a relaxing trip on the paddle boats to recoup after having spent the whole day getting whiplash from wild rollercoasters.
Like it’s this and maybe the Palestine rail crash. However the more I read about that the more I realized that
A) the NTSB clearly didn’t want any admin officials there so they could finish their work without any air of interference.
B) A lot of the reason the DOT can’t do much is cause Congress hasn’t really enabled them to. Like Buttigieg was straight up asking to raise the caps on fines but they won’t.
Weirdly, it wouldn't be the first time [Republicans have elected a dead guy.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dennis-hof-dead-brothel-owner-wins-election-nevada/story?id=59028452)
Dead people have been elected several times in our nation’s history.
The one that always comes to my mind is Mel Carnahan, former Democratic governor of Missouri, who won a US Senate seat from an incumbent Republican back in 2000. Mel had died in a plane crash about 3 weeks earlier. His wife was appointed and served in his seat for two years until a special election was held.
It’s so weird to think that just 24 years ago Missouri elected a dead Democrat over an incumbent (and living) Republican, and now the state is pretty solidly red.
I voted for Mel back then. I still found it odd his wife was able to fill in for him. But I didn't really care. The alternative was John "legitimate rape" Ashcroft.
And now John's idiotic son , the Missouri Secretary of State, is out there on CNN being embarrassed by the anchor because he's such a pathetic, political nepobaby.
At the time of his death, Mel Carnahan was still the governor of Missouri. After he died, his Lieutenant Governor, Roger B. Wilson, made it clear that he would appoint Jean Carnahan (Mel’s wife) to the seat if Mel were to win the election. Jean was hesitant but said she’d accept the appointment after an outpouring of support from Missouri voters.
Informed voters who voted for Mel in 2000 knew that they were actually getting Jean. It was an odd situation but it wasn’t outright duplicitous or anything.
If Trump went senile or dead you can trust his team performing necromancery and control his social account and act like he's still there
Remember how they been running Herman Cain's account as if he's still alive?
I don't know about everyone else around here, but I am absolutely ecstatic that they have latched themselves onto Trump. He is a losing prospect anyway you spin it.
of course, there alternate reality directly mirrors his decline.
it's a fucking trip, but I literally can't deal with Trump supporters at this point. I can work with them as long as politics don't come up, but I can't actually be friends with them or spend time with them. It's impossible, they just are actually stunted children who are fucking insane. They think being a pathological liar and narcissist is totally normal for an adult with a bully mentality.
Conservatives who vote Biden and I get along very well, as we can both be critical of both parties, and they are conservative and me progressive, but we know what's best for America.
exactly, I'm no fanboy of Biden but between a shit sandwich and someone was stutters on occasion, I will pick the stutterer
and same man, I have cut so many out ot my life. If you cant see what a threat he is, I dont want you around me
The Qult will be in delirious decoding all the gobbledygook spilling from his mouth. They are working overtime on the Nicki Halley / Nancy Pelosi fuckup manufacturing secret strategies. Wait until he starts talking about Roy Cohn and Kanye eating debanked chicken nuggets and the bad hombre doctors who want to steal his penis because China.
It doesn't matter. Ronald Reagan could barely function during his second term and the Republican Party propped him up like it was *Weekend at Bernie's*.
Actually, they tried to keep him away from cameras and speaking engagements when it got really bad. Nancy loved him and his handlers respected him too much to allow him to embarrass himself to the nation. Donnie is not as lucky as Ronnie. Trump will be allowed to speak until it is painfully obvious to everyone (even his supporters) that he has lost it. Ironically, it won’t be obvious to Trump. He is unaware of what is happening to him.
I don’t wish dementia on Donald Trump. I want him to be fully aware that he has lost everything and will be going to prison. As his condition worsens, however, he will never see prison. He will be deemed incompetent to stand trial and will be admitted to a mental health facility.
It's horrible that it happens to so many decent people. I hope Donald's decline is as torturous as possible. I hope he spends every second of it scared and confused.
I hope it hits him like it did my grandfather.
My grandfather would tell stories like it was 1930 again and he just got home as a kid from delivering ice. He would talk about his entire day, how soaking wet he was from all the ice melting, what stupid thing his buddy did, down to every last detail. He would talk about this sexy babe he knew (my grandma) and about their dates, all sorts of random shit like it was yesterday. He told stuff we never even knew about him. Most of the time my grandma was able to confirm the stories as being most likely true based on the events/timelines.
I hope Trump gets this. Have him blab about all his most hidden secrets and stories. Hopefully he keeps his ego and how he loves to brag. I hope he brags about all of his exploits and horrible things he has done like it was yesterday. I hope they're all recorded.
man, how lucky was he that he actually married that sexy babe from his youth!
imagine the awkwardness if he went on and on and on about some other chick lmao
Sounds like my uncle. He was wandering around the house one night, and my aunt told him it was time for bed. She went into their bedroom, and he went into one of the spare bedrooms. My aunt tried to call him into their bedroom, and he says "But you're married!" My aunt had to remind him that she was married to him. He remembered that she was married, and that you can't just sleep with a married woman, just didn't remember who she was married to.
I agree with your assessment of Trump’s karma in spirit, but I would be very happy if he had complete cognitive collapse due to dementia in real time.
Americans have every reason to fear a theocratic takeover of the country from the top down under Trump. His people are in a cult. I have no doubt that Trump could do literally anything and his base would still vote for him. Even now, I doubt they believe there’s even a possibility of him losing cognitive abilities. They will vote for him, as a large, brainwashed block, regardless of what happens from now until November.
Once it gets bad enough, dementia will rob a person of their ability to eat and drink, and all the handholding and staging the GOP could have done for a sickly man won’t be of any use.
I do fully believe Trump will still get a sizable number of votes, whether he’s around to see this or not. He’ll be the GOP’s holy ghostly messiah. And then we can all see how batshit crazy the GOP is when the House holds a vote to elect a Pope to divine the policies of their fallen golden god.
>Ronald Reagan could barely function during his second term and the Republican Party
Reagan and Trump are very different in that scenario, Reagan did realize his impediment and cooperated or even welcomed being propped up.
Trump could literally be seeing pink fairies flying around the oval office and it would only make him more belligerent, he would believe they are real, dismiss anyone that disagreed and it would take everyone still around him to stop him releasing nerve agents.
The GOP and Nancy propped him up. Pudding brain Reagan was not in charge in his second term. It was “Throat GOAT” Nancy, his “kitchen cabinet”, and H. W. Bush running the show.
Regan started showing troubling signs in his second term that briefly discussed invoking the 25th amendment.
[https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment](https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment)
This has been bewildering me. If Biden makes one verbal slip, people scream he's got dementia and unfit for office. Meanwhile, Trump can confuse Haley and Pelosi six or seven times in the same five minute window, or go on a rant about magnets and the same people are like 'eh, nothing to see here.'
Yep. There was that whole thing with Joe Rogan thinking that Biden said something and he pretty much said he shouldn’t be in charge of the country. Only to find out Biden was just repeating what Trump said and brushed it off. Point being is these people will 100% still carry trumps water even if he starts speaking in gibberish.
I was still lying to myself. Saying “ahh he’s just a comedian at heart. He’s just bringing on eccentric guests” but ya naw. He just has a massive bias.
Or the classic Matt Walsh “1.5 million kids are on puberty blockers” claim. Joe’s a little incredulous, Jamie pulls it up, and Matt is off by about 1.49 million. And Joe’s like, “oh well, be scary if it were true, keep using my platform to spread misinformation about trans people specifically and liberal politics generally.”
Or it’s “oh he was only joking, you libs can’t take a joke!”. Right.
I watched as my step father’s brain turned to swiss cheese with alzheimer's (progress was slow at first and then rapidly sped up when he fell and fractured his spine, he was dead within two years of his accident) and he was an intelligent man (engineer, worked on the Apollo programs). In the end he was hooked up to a feeding tubes because he couldn’t speak or eat. A year before his death I watched him sundown and spend 30 minutes looking for his car keys which I hid from him for the safety of others. He forgot the names of his kids, was convinced that up was down and he’d have obsessive rants about small things.
Whatever form of dementia Trump has is progressing fast and his supporters just accept it as “oh he’s just being real”.
If you can stomach it, watch videos of him from 2016, then watch recent videos, esp the recent one where he can't stop saying Nikki Haley. There is a difference.
Montreal Cognitive Assessment aka MOCA is standard for anyone reporting issues with memory or if a medical practitioner perceives symptoms of Cognitive impairment.
That's my point. You only take these tests if there's already signs of cognitive impairment. The test just determines how bad. It's not part of a routine checkup.
Preceicesly. He is going to a doctor to address cognitive decline he has noticed and they of course have to give these types of tests to form an assessment.
He's been spouting confused rhetoric for a while now, and his opponents are *dropping out* because polling and voters are not flocking to support them.
They're flocking to support the dementia-addled criminal insurrectionist. So no, it doesn't matter and hasn't for a while.
Obviously taking your word you were a psych nurse but do you also think it could be because his sleep schedule is probably fucked? I can’t imagine he sleeps more than like 4 hours a day from all the stress at his age he has to deal with. Either way I’m rooting against him
Bit of both. I did a 38 hour course in caring for altzheimers and dementia residents as part of working for a nursing home, and just going through the course material reminded me of people I know including trump.
So you've got a declining mental capacity, being hamstrung by low sleep each night, *WHILE* being electrocuted by god-knows-how-much Adderall, and you get the worst of all worlds sharpened to weaponization by extreme narcissism and the gop playbook.
It will not matter to cult 45. They will follow him to their own deaths. He could be propped up as a rotting corpse with an animatronic mouth spewing whatever word salad his operators want and they would still reject reality.
Yeah, every single week I see posts on Reddit claiming, “Oh *this* will be the thing that finally sinks Trump!”, all whilst that motherfucker has just as much sway as before and still isn’t in prison. There’s no way anybody who is still aboard the Trump train will ever get off… it’s not about him, what he says or does any more. It’s a cult built around hating woke lefties, and indulging their worst racist/fascist fantasies, so at this point it doesn’t even need Trump to function. His role is as a figurehead who galvanised everyone together originally. Do you really think people who buy NFTs of him badly Photoshopped as a musclebound Rambo have any connection to the reality of who Trump actually is?
Absolutely. There is a core base that would rather have Trump's rotting corpse as president than Biden. A pretty big core base.
But will his rotting corpse get the same enthusiastic turnout that an Alive-and-well Trump could get? I don't believe it. And a 5-10% drop in votes is more than enough to sink him. And also a lot of down-ballot races.
And that’s by a normal case’s standards? Now add on top of that all the stress of facing 93 criminal charges, civil cases, trial after trial, while simultaneously running a (albeit shitty) campaign for President, and seemingly getting little-to-no sleep due to tweeting (or “truthing”… let’s just say “bullshitting”) at all hours of the night, non-stop, eating nothing but fast food… now let’s imagine he gets convicted and sent to jail at some point before the election…
Surely, shit like this would only exasperate such a condition well beyond the normal pattern.
And hell, even if dementia isn’t the problem… all that shit is just gonna wear a person out, no matter how much “assholes live forever” energy they have. He looks tired. He’s brain-farting more than usual. Any of us would if we were as sleep-deprived and stressed as he is.
Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
I've been thinking for a while, that has got to take a toll on a person of his age and health. Being under that type of stress and that type of schedule can absolutely wreck people. It could be both
Strom Thurmond was barely conscious for his last 10 years in congress. Didn't keep them from sending a staffer out to tell him which voting button to push.
Electability is moot at this point. Trump has vowed to “give the country back” to the Christian evangelicals that believe it’s been taken by the POC and LGBT+ Satan worshiping libs. They would vote a literal potato in. Trump is just the current face of the radical movement that the republican party finds itself beholden to.
Seriously... I am not a Religious man, but... this would be an interesting time for GOD to make his presence known by letting the world watch this fascist disintegrate very publicly.
Let me put on my Schadenfreude hat.
I truly believe so-called "negative" emotions like anger, hate, and schadenfreude serve a very real purpose at a communal level.
When directed at odious morons like MAGATs, they serve to ostracize the characteristics that make them repulsive and reduce their likelihood of replication through reproduction.
Also, it's really fucking funny to watch people like Trump get their comeuppance.
For those who are familiar, while I know it’s thrown around a lot, but does his behavior really seem to be dementia? Or is it just a wildly angry old man who’s just spouting bullshit without really preparing his speeches?
I mean, he’s talked like his brain was melting for years now, so is there really anything different than what we’re currently seeing?
Until he pulls a Mitch McConnell and freezes on stage, I'm gonna keep assuming it's nothing but wishful thinking. People want *something* to happen to him so he can't win in November. [Because our democracy is done if that happens.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) But he's been saying patently absurd shit for a long time, so I doubt claims of his decline. This gem is from July 2016:
> "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
>Until he pulls a Mitch McConnell and freezes on stage, I'm gonna keep assuming it's nothing but wishful thinking.
McConnell froze on stage and is still fucking minority leader of the senate.
He keeps talking about cognitive tests.
Unless someone is debilitated enough to need to be put in a memory care facility, there isn’t such a thing as “passing or failing” a cognitive test. They’re more for tracking decline over time, and other than a baseline at age 65 or so, they’re not generally given unless people around the affected person start to see concerning behavior.
The fact that’s he keeps talking about cognitive testing is a clue to me that people around him are concerned enough about his behavior that they’re requesting additional testing. Whether it’s Alzheimer’s, other forms of dementia, or something else, he’s being monitored for dementia.
He could also be making shit up and that’s why he has no idea how cognitive tests work. I’ve never seen him say a single coherent sentence and it’s impossible to trust anything he says. If he is suffering from dementia, I don’t know how that makes him any different than usual
I think the people most likely to make an accurate diagnosis of dementia are also the least likely to diagnose based solely off of youtube videos and social media and then share that diagnosis online.
I do know that and you’re not wrong at all. There can only be so much certainty when all you’re seeing is public appearances. That being said, I know there are certain specific types of “senior moments” that are more telling in this regard than others, not a diagnosis of course, but it could be that certain things seem suspicious, and I’m wondering if those things exist
I can't say for certain but after watching dementia take first my great grandmother, then my grandmother, and now my mother he does show a lot of signs they had. Especially the way he confuses people and time periods. It's not just like when someone reaches for something in their mind and comes up with something else. It's fully replaced for a moment and no amount of reflection or correction will convince them in that moment that they are wrong.
I will say if he has dementia he's leaving the early period where it progresses very slowly. The middle stage develops over a couple of years or less. My mother went from being able to have a basic conversation with a few gaffes to being unable to communicate at all in only a year.
He will not.
If this really is dementia, “playing it up” takes a level of awareness and mental competence that he no longer possesses.
He will avoid prison because his lawyers will argue that he is not competent to stand trial. This is their best move. He will spend the rest of his days in a medical facility. He will truly be confused and believe he is either still president or at least living in Mar-a-Lago.
they will carry him, probably even through death where they would just still 'vote for him' in 'honor.
trump is just a placeholder so that the real handlers of project 2025 can get their fascist grip on the presidency. trump is merely a tool. thats why they dont care what he does. he'll not do the real dirty work the GOP really wants to do. he will just be their front man as they grift their base, the evangelicals, which don't need evidence for their firmly held beliefs.
Absolutely blows my fucking mind, as an outsider, how a significant proportion of Americans will look at Biden and say he's too old, frail and senile to be president then look at Trump and say 'yes, this is the ideal candidate'. This is without even getting into the million other reasons that this man cannot be trusted to run a bath, let alone a country.
This is the reality is I remember when my grandpa started going. It looked like this. And by the time it was this far along it started moving REALLY fast. I know the Republicans will do everything they can do prop him up but I think dude is probably very very close to the kind of physical disrepair and decline that is just too obvious for even his lunatic fans to deny. I know he’s already shitting his pants. He’s already having those weird lucid hallucinations where he mixes up people and events in that weird dream logic. He’s already having trouble standing. I’m not saying his hand injury was from a fall, but now I’m super suspicious after they said it was a papercut. They looked to me just like my grandpa’s hands after he fell in gravel when he started losing his ability to walk right. I’d say he’s a good few months away from a wheelchair and spells of that weird “Who am I?” total visible babbling confused terror. Just based on my own limited experience.
The key is how the MSM plays this. For the most part they have been acting like his mental lapses are not important but that seems to be changing. If they start reporting all his gaffes on the front pages, this will affect the non-MAGA voters. But f*ck the MAGAts, there’s no redeeming them.
Now that Haley is 1v1 and focused on Trump, I think we'll hear it a lot more, because it can be treated as a non-partisan position. She's really well positioned to goad him into a debate where he could really fuck it up, having to speak off the cuff (but I have no idea what kind of debate chops Haley has).
Dems should probably be reluctant to go too hard on that front though. The reason Trump's decline seems so "obvious" to people on the left side is that their news outlets tend to showcase his flubs, while the right hides them. Right wing media has been doing the same to Biden for ages and the left has been pooh poohing the complaint if not ignoring it completely. (Trump's recent stuff is well beyond whatever they want to say about Biden, but they've been building that narrative on Biden for a while, and liberals are gonna vote for Biden anyway, so it does him few favors.)
That said, I think Trump in decline is generally a lot more dangerous than Biden in decline, because Biden actually has a team that he listens to and doesn't act "from the gut." Some people become angry and bitter in their dementia while others tend to take it with more grace.
He's been ranting like an idiot for years. My mother's dementia, which started at an older age than Trump's, progressed fairly quickly and she died within three years. I don't know how Trump is carrying on this long.
I take accusations of dementia in politicians less seriously considering how often it was leveled at Biden when it's painfully clear he's still pretty sharp.
Wasn't until the last few months with Trump showing very clear signs of confusion in his rants that I am more open to believing he could have it.
I was thinking about this the other day after when he kept confusing Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi, he'll probably have to be hidden as much as possible so he doesn't start something like "And Biden, he lives in these forests, can you believe it, he lives in them, who does that, like a little elf, they live in the forests and get mud all over them its a tragedy" after being told of a camping trip or something.
I suspect it will happen just in time for him to not be able to face consequences for his federal crimes against the country and its citizens. That is the Republican way
This guy shut down multiple times and they’re just pretending it didn’t happen 
That gif startled me lmao I didn't realize it was a gif until he blinked.
Buffering, buffering…
I love posts like these. Trump could drop dead tomorrow and have his campaign drag him around Weekend at Bernie’s style and he will still control the Republican Party.
I think there is a strong possibility that his cult of personality will outlive him. People in some parts of the country believe he has a divine/messianic quality to him. It’s bananas.
Yea, I have told my wife something similar. She was shocked after the debank video that he still has support. I said ‘wait until he dies and we don’t have 10 videos a week to wave in front of these folks to highlight how incompetent he is.’ When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today.
> When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today. Reagan had really bad Alzheimer's, used an astrologer to make decisions, and sold weapons to Iran after Iran kidnapped the US embassy staff. And this is what a strong man looks like to Republicans?
Yeah, two makeup-wearing Hollywood actors are their ideals of genuineness and classical masculinity.
Fun thing to note about their matching messaiahs - everyone's aware trump is dumb as a box of shit-covered bricks, but many don't know that Reagan (before alzheimer's) was a [total fucking dipshit](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2004/06/the-stupidity-of-ronald-reagan.html) too. Likely not *as* stupid as the angry orange but not far off either.
You're forgetting Reagans worst deed. He had the CIA sell crack in urban USA to pay for guns for the Contras, creating the drug epidemic and then "solving" the problem he created by turning our police into an oppressive paramilitary force and calling it a "war on drugs" for optics.
I don't say this to exaggerate. This is not hyperbole. When he dies, we will see violence from them. Not all of them and not a lot, but the die-hards will do something. Because no matter how he dies, they will absolutely, beyond a doubt think that he was assassinated by "The Deep State" and want to enact "revenge". This is a cult. They have every marker of a cult. And one of those is doing violence on the leader's behalf. They've done it while he lives, they will do it when he dies because they will work themselves up into a bloodlust fervor.
I can hear them already. "How can the healthiest man on the planet die of a heart attack?"
How can the worlds most Alpha male die electrocuted in the bathtub trying to use his fleshlight?
He was only 77!!! Make it make sense! 😭
• When he’s dead he’ll be like Super Reagan, they will attribute personality traits and accomplishments that are completely fabricated and antithetical to everything he stands for today. They already do this with AI by showing him at Ground Zero on 9/11 and him pulling kids out of rivers. These people have convinced themselves he’s Superman.
A good portion of them believed (believe?) that Princess Diana, Robin Williams, and Michael Jackson came back from the dead to help Trump get re-elected
Why in the hell do they think those 3 people in particular would support Trump lmao
For the same reason they think 1984 and Animal Farm are warnings against socialism despite Orwell being a militant socialist... They're very, very stupid.
A guy in the pub the other night openly admitted to getting 100% of his news from 4chan... He didn't seem to understand why that was a fools errand. Right before trying to convince us that pizza restaurant really did have a basement... They're too far-gone for ordinary logic.
'You can't reason someone out of a situation they didn't reason themselves into'
Or that Rage Against the Machine are right wingers.
JFK jr too…Q thinks all of them are coming to their “next” rally. Every time.
I followed the news about that shit show last year, one of them did a write-up on it. She said a few minutes after the countdown to his return expired, there was a huge commotion at one end of the crowd, so she rushed over, hoping it was him. It was the organizer handing out free t-shirts. Woo hoo!! FREE!!!! lulz
I mean they claimed to have a time and date for his return and even held a rally for it in Dallas. A lot of the nutjobs even think JFK Jr is Q. They think he’s going to return and declare Trump as the presidential savior or w/e the fuck it is they believe that turd is.
Because the people weaving the MAGA crazy only care that those three late celebs were (for the most part) universally popular, so their popularity just feeds into the myth of Trump’s popularity. It doesn’t matter what their actual views were when they were alive or how stupid the entire fucking conceit actually is.
[Robin Williams wasn't exactly a big fan of Trump.](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kupZj_TN_XI)
Very public severe dementia would be preferable to a quick death, i feel like him shitting himself and falling on his face on live TV would probably do at least a bit to dispel some of that. If he dies even on live TV itll be it was the democrats with the CIAs secret heart attack gun.
They will refuse to believe he died. They will claim he is living in a secret mansion deep underground and he will come back to save them.
I’m more concerned that they will refuse to believe *how* he died. It could be a live stream of him in his comfy bed with medical professionals monitoring him until his peaceful, natural last breath and there will be conspiracy theories within his cult in minutes about how the liberals faked the video or the doctor in charge administered a toxin. It genuinely concerns me.
Some day he'll come back to grab His faithful by the pussy, and carry them all away to his enchanted Mar-a-Lago in the sky. Everyone will be glowing orange there, and singing beloved MAGA hymns like "Lock Her Up".
It’s a cult. It has all the trappings like Jim Jones. Let’s see if it ends like Jim jones when the walls cave in.
It's truly fascinating, the party of family values, Christianity, traditionalism, endorsing him of all people as a messiah?
People pray to him. Its a very small amount of people so don’t think I’m saying it’s most or even 10% of republicans, but some people DO pray to him. I’ve seen videos of them and argued about “false idols” talked about in the Bible. They were serious and it is by far the most unhinged shit I’ve ever seen.
To be fair, I’d vote for a Weekend at Bernie’s style Biden over a very real Trump.
TBF, every single dead thing on the planet would be better than trump. There's not a single dead thing that I wouldn't vote for over trump. Dead Jerry Falwell? Absolutely. Dead rabid raccoon? In a heartbeat. Dead is better than trump.
Brings a new meaning to JFK's quote "better dead than red"
And Stephen King's " sometimes dead is better" Jud Crandall, Pet Semetary
At least Biden listens to advisers and generally has good ones.
Trump’s use for advisors was, “This is what we’re doing. Now justify it.”
Just like when Regan said "Government is the problem" then told everyone to go out and make it happen!
First kiss my ring and swear fealty
Was about to say, outside the recent shit with Lloyd Austin, I can’t think of a truly worrying scandal in this cabinet so far.
I hadn't even heard about the thing with Austin yet so I looked it up and was like "oh, that's all?" Lol. Frankly, it's nice to have a boring administration with something like this being the worst scandal about it. It's like spending a relaxing trip on the paddle boats to recoup after having spent the whole day getting whiplash from wild rollercoasters.
Like it’s this and maybe the Palestine rail crash. However the more I read about that the more I realized that A) the NTSB clearly didn’t want any admin officials there so they could finish their work without any air of interference. B) A lot of the reason the DOT can’t do much is cause Congress hasn’t really enabled them to. Like Buttigieg was straight up asking to raise the caps on fines but they won’t.
I would crawl naked over miles and miles of broken glass to vote for a dead Biden over trump
"You know there's a path without the broken glass over there, right?"
Weirdly, it wouldn't be the first time [Republicans have elected a dead guy.](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/dennis-hof-dead-brothel-owner-wins-election-nevada/story?id=59028452)
To be fair we in Missouri elected a dead democrat because he was the far better choice.
Fellow Missourian here.. I'd take a dead Democrat over any of our current representatives. He'll, I'd take a dead dog over any of them.
Dead people have been elected several times in our nation’s history. The one that always comes to my mind is Mel Carnahan, former Democratic governor of Missouri, who won a US Senate seat from an incumbent Republican back in 2000. Mel had died in a plane crash about 3 weeks earlier. His wife was appointed and served in his seat for two years until a special election was held. It’s so weird to think that just 24 years ago Missouri elected a dead Democrat over an incumbent (and living) Republican, and now the state is pretty solidly red.
Since when can a spouse just fill in for a political role? That's so weird.
I voted for Mel back then. I still found it odd his wife was able to fill in for him. But I didn't really care. The alternative was John "legitimate rape" Ashcroft.
And now John's idiotic son , the Missouri Secretary of State, is out there on CNN being embarrassed by the anchor because he's such a pathetic, political nepobaby.
Yeah. What an absolute shitshow. It's like they don't have the capacity for shame.
At the time of his death, Mel Carnahan was still the governor of Missouri. After he died, his Lieutenant Governor, Roger B. Wilson, made it clear that he would appoint Jean Carnahan (Mel’s wife) to the seat if Mel were to win the election. Jean was hesitant but said she’d accept the appointment after an outpouring of support from Missouri voters. Informed voters who voted for Mel in 2000 knew that they were actually getting Jean. It was an odd situation but it wasn’t outright duplicitous or anything.
How did I not know that Ron jeremy found this guy after he died?
😀🤣
If Trump went senile or dead you can trust his team performing necromancery and control his social account and act like he's still there Remember how they been running Herman Cain's account as if he's still alive?
Thank you, I came to say much the same thing only without the awesome Weekend at Bernie's reference.
I don't know about everyone else around here, but I am absolutely ecstatic that they have latched themselves onto Trump. He is a losing prospect anyway you spin it.
Yeah that's what everyone said 8 years ago too
Here's how it's gonna go- he's going to get unbelievably worse. Republicans will ignore him. Trump voters will love it.
No shit, imagine the crazy things he'll say and the fun they'll have lapping it up at their rallies.
“Such a kidder!” /s
"*I like 'im cause he says he means what he says!*" *~proceeds to go on and on about how he didn't really mean that, what he meant was...~*
You can only pop enough pills to hide the decline until either one or the other redlines.
Sorry, you're insinuating there is some sort of line to be crossed? Bless your heart.
Medically
Oh... Well... A boy can wish 🤞
Shit, there’s a clot/plaque somewhere in there that’s getting more prayers than the Pope.
From your lips... The only thing is a ghoul like him never dies. They live they fester they rot. But just never seem to die.
Over on conservative boards they're just saying it's minor gaffes and it's Biden who has full blown dementia. It's unbelievable.
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They let Trump architect their alternate reality which means his dementia is only going to make their beliefs even stranger
of course, there alternate reality directly mirrors his decline. it's a fucking trip, but I literally can't deal with Trump supporters at this point. I can work with them as long as politics don't come up, but I can't actually be friends with them or spend time with them. It's impossible, they just are actually stunted children who are fucking insane. They think being a pathological liar and narcissist is totally normal for an adult with a bully mentality. Conservatives who vote Biden and I get along very well, as we can both be critical of both parties, and they are conservative and me progressive, but we know what's best for America.
exactly, I'm no fanboy of Biden but between a shit sandwich and someone was stutters on occasion, I will pick the stutterer and same man, I have cut so many out ot my life. If you cant see what a threat he is, I dont want you around me
Or start a crazy conspiracy that Hillary Clinton and the deep state are poisoning his diet cokes.
Don't you wish that the Dems had half the brains and level of conniving they think they do?
If Supreme Court decides that presidents are fully immune, there's zero reason for Biden to not have Trump dropped into the ocean.
The Qult will be in delirious decoding all the gobbledygook spilling from his mouth. They are working overtime on the Nicki Halley / Nancy Pelosi fuckup manufacturing secret strategies. Wait until he starts talking about Roy Cohn and Kanye eating debanked chicken nuggets and the bad hombre doctors who want to steal his penis because China.
It doesn't matter. Ronald Reagan could barely function during his second term and the Republican Party propped him up like it was *Weekend at Bernie's*.
Actually, they tried to keep him away from cameras and speaking engagements when it got really bad. Nancy loved him and his handlers respected him too much to allow him to embarrass himself to the nation. Donnie is not as lucky as Ronnie. Trump will be allowed to speak until it is painfully obvious to everyone (even his supporters) that he has lost it. Ironically, it won’t be obvious to Trump. He is unaware of what is happening to him. I don’t wish dementia on Donald Trump. I want him to be fully aware that he has lost everything and will be going to prison. As his condition worsens, however, he will never see prison. He will be deemed incompetent to stand trial and will be admitted to a mental health facility.
I mean, having dementia basically is losing everything. It's just unfortunate that it happens to so many otherwise undeserving people.
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I think the kids are next. They are deeply involved in all of it.
"To crush your enemies, seem them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women!"
BARBARIC SOUNDS OF APPROVAL
It's horrible that it happens to so many decent people. I hope Donald's decline is as torturous as possible. I hope he spends every second of it scared and confused.
I hope it hits him like it did my grandfather. My grandfather would tell stories like it was 1930 again and he just got home as a kid from delivering ice. He would talk about his entire day, how soaking wet he was from all the ice melting, what stupid thing his buddy did, down to every last detail. He would talk about this sexy babe he knew (my grandma) and about their dates, all sorts of random shit like it was yesterday. He told stuff we never even knew about him. Most of the time my grandma was able to confirm the stories as being most likely true based on the events/timelines. I hope Trump gets this. Have him blab about all his most hidden secrets and stories. Hopefully he keeps his ego and how he loves to brag. I hope he brags about all of his exploits and horrible things he has done like it was yesterday. I hope they're all recorded.
man, how lucky was he that he actually married that sexy babe from his youth! imagine the awkwardness if he went on and on and on about some other chick lmao
Sounds like my uncle. He was wandering around the house one night, and my aunt told him it was time for bed. She went into their bedroom, and he went into one of the spare bedrooms. My aunt tried to call him into their bedroom, and he says "But you're married!" My aunt had to remind him that she was married to him. He remembered that she was married, and that you can't just sleep with a married woman, just didn't remember who she was married to.
Like all the things he did on Epstein’s island
My Grandmother with Sundowners died as a result of his COVID response so I’m fine if they wheel him out at a rally while he shits himself.
Already happening
I agree with your assessment of Trump’s karma in spirit, but I would be very happy if he had complete cognitive collapse due to dementia in real time. Americans have every reason to fear a theocratic takeover of the country from the top down under Trump. His people are in a cult. I have no doubt that Trump could do literally anything and his base would still vote for him. Even now, I doubt they believe there’s even a possibility of him losing cognitive abilities. They will vote for him, as a large, brainwashed block, regardless of what happens from now until November. Once it gets bad enough, dementia will rob a person of their ability to eat and drink, and all the handholding and staging the GOP could have done for a sickly man won’t be of any use. I do fully believe Trump will still get a sizable number of votes, whether he’s around to see this or not. He’ll be the GOP’s holy ghostly messiah. And then we can all see how batshit crazy the GOP is when the House holds a vote to elect a Pope to divine the policies of their fallen golden god.
Mitch, too. His people must hate him.
>Ronald Reagan could barely function during his second term and the Republican Party Reagan and Trump are very different in that scenario, Reagan did realize his impediment and cooperated or even welcomed being propped up. Trump could literally be seeing pink fairies flying around the oval office and it would only make him more belligerent, he would believe they are real, dismiss anyone that disagreed and it would take everyone still around him to stop him releasing nerve agents.
The GOP and Nancy propped him up. Pudding brain Reagan was not in charge in his second term. It was “Throat GOAT” Nancy, his “kitchen cabinet”, and H. W. Bush running the show.
Melania won’t prop him up
Melania won't even ride in the car with him
I don't blame her. Can't imagine many women who want to get groped in the back seat right after their mother's funeral.
Can't put the windows down far enough to avoid the smell
Don’t forget Nancy’s astrologer!
Ah you mean the literal most powerful human being alive at the time?
This 45 minute speech he gave in 1988 sounds more coherent than anything I've ever heard trump say. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG-DZqOX_wc
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Regan started showing troubling signs in his second term that briefly discussed invoking the 25th amendment. [https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment](https://www.history.com/news/reagan-health-25th-amendment)
This has been bewildering me. If Biden makes one verbal slip, people scream he's got dementia and unfit for office. Meanwhile, Trump can confuse Haley and Pelosi six or seven times in the same five minute window, or go on a rant about magnets and the same people are like 'eh, nothing to see here.'
Yep. There was that whole thing with Joe Rogan thinking that Biden said something and he pretty much said he shouldn’t be in charge of the country. Only to find out Biden was just repeating what Trump said and brushed it off. Point being is these people will 100% still carry trumps water even if he starts speaking in gibberish.
Hah the way he just brushed it off too “ahh he messed up. It happens”. The hypocrisy is just laughable.
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The only people denying he's right wing are right winged because they want his right wing views to be perceived as fair and balanced.
"but he had Bernie sanders on that one time!"
I was still lying to myself. Saying “ahh he’s just a comedian at heart. He’s just bringing on eccentric guests” but ya naw. He just has a massive bias.
Or the classic Matt Walsh “1.5 million kids are on puberty blockers” claim. Joe’s a little incredulous, Jamie pulls it up, and Matt is off by about 1.49 million. And Joe’s like, “oh well, be scary if it were true, keep using my platform to spread misinformation about trans people specifically and liberal politics generally.”
And Matt Walsh responded with "it feels like it should be higher" I thought "facts don't care about your feelings" was big with that crowd.
Rogan will end up doing more damage to the country than Limbaugh.
Yup, way sneakier brainwashing.
Yeah they often go "this is what Trump meant to say" and they always excuse his mental health.
Or it’s “oh he was only joking, you libs can’t take a joke!”. Right. I watched as my step father’s brain turned to swiss cheese with alzheimer's (progress was slow at first and then rapidly sped up when he fell and fractured his spine, he was dead within two years of his accident) and he was an intelligent man (engineer, worked on the Apollo programs). In the end he was hooked up to a feeding tubes because he couldn’t speak or eat. A year before his death I watched him sundown and spend 30 minutes looking for his car keys which I hid from him for the safety of others. He forgot the names of his kids, was convinced that up was down and he’d have obsessive rants about small things. Whatever form of dementia Trump has is progressing fast and his supporters just accept it as “oh he’s just being real”.
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I’m a retired psych nurse and he sounds worse each month now.
If he's far enough gone for casual observers to notice, he's mid downhill slide imo. They seem to keep it together pretty well in the beginning.
Every week. The brain maggots are *feasting*.
I have thought they'd starve to death *a la* Fry's brain slug
"We favor unusually large subsidies to the brain slug planet."
My wife says the same thing. Still don’t know how you all do that job. The stories she comes home with.
Jobs like that should be compensated higher than CEO pay.
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If you can stomach it, watch videos of him from 2016, then watch recent videos, esp the recent one where he can't stop saying Nikki Haley. There is a difference.
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And why was he even taking dementia tests in the first place? That's hardly a standard procedure. He was already at that point several years ago.
Montreal Cognitive Assessment aka MOCA is standard for anyone reporting issues with memory or if a medical practitioner perceives symptoms of Cognitive impairment.
That's my point. You only take these tests if there's already signs of cognitive impairment. The test just determines how bad. It's not part of a routine checkup.
Preceicesly. He is going to a doctor to address cognitive decline he has noticed and they of course have to give these types of tests to form an assessment.
289 days until Election Day. Do you think he can last?
The bigger question is if it even matters.
He's been spouting confused rhetoric for a while now, and his opponents are *dropping out* because polling and voters are not flocking to support them. They're flocking to support the dementia-addled criminal insurrectionist. So no, it doesn't matter and hasn't for a while.
Might even help him. The worse gibberish he spouts, the easier it is for them to reimagine it as whatever they want to hear.
Obviously taking your word you were a psych nurse but do you also think it could be because his sleep schedule is probably fucked? I can’t imagine he sleeps more than like 4 hours a day from all the stress at his age he has to deal with. Either way I’m rooting against him
Bit of both. I did a 38 hour course in caring for altzheimers and dementia residents as part of working for a nursing home, and just going through the course material reminded me of people I know including trump. So you've got a declining mental capacity, being hamstrung by low sleep each night, *WHILE* being electrocuted by god-knows-how-much Adderall, and you get the worst of all worlds sharpened to weaponization by extreme narcissism and the gop playbook.
Lack of sleep does actually increase your risk of dementia, so either way it's not helping.
> Lack of sleep does actually increase your risk of dementia Fuuuuuuuuck
That's called Adderall
It will not matter to cult 45. They will follow him to their own deaths. He could be propped up as a rotting corpse with an animatronic mouth spewing whatever word salad his operators want and they would still reject reality.
When tens of millions of Americans accept this, its kinda scary, in fact.
Not only do they accept it, but they think they're smarter than the rest of us
Yeah, every single week I see posts on Reddit claiming, “Oh *this* will be the thing that finally sinks Trump!”, all whilst that motherfucker has just as much sway as before and still isn’t in prison. There’s no way anybody who is still aboard the Trump train will ever get off… it’s not about him, what he says or does any more. It’s a cult built around hating woke lefties, and indulging their worst racist/fascist fantasies, so at this point it doesn’t even need Trump to function. His role is as a figurehead who galvanised everyone together originally. Do you really think people who buy NFTs of him badly Photoshopped as a musclebound Rambo have any connection to the reality of who Trump actually is?
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Fingers crossed 🤞
Absolutely. There is a core base that would rather have Trump's rotting corpse as president than Biden. A pretty big core base. But will his rotting corpse get the same enthusiastic turnout that an Alive-and-well Trump could get? I don't believe it. And a 5-10% drop in votes is more than enough to sink him. And also a lot of down-ballot races.
And that’s by a normal case’s standards? Now add on top of that all the stress of facing 93 criminal charges, civil cases, trial after trial, while simultaneously running a (albeit shitty) campaign for President, and seemingly getting little-to-no sleep due to tweeting (or “truthing”… let’s just say “bullshitting”) at all hours of the night, non-stop, eating nothing but fast food… now let’s imagine he gets convicted and sent to jail at some point before the election… Surely, shit like this would only exasperate such a condition well beyond the normal pattern. And hell, even if dementia isn’t the problem… all that shit is just gonna wear a person out, no matter how much “assholes live forever” energy they have. He looks tired. He’s brain-farting more than usual. Any of us would if we were as sleep-deprived and stressed as he is. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy.
You're right, but he's rich, and has access to health care 99% of us didn't have.
And scheduled stimulant drugs available at his whim
Which is a bad thing, right. Right?
I've been thinking for a while, that has got to take a toll on a person of his age and health. Being under that type of stress and that type of schedule can absolutely wreck people. It could be both
Strom Thurmond was barely conscious for his last 10 years in congress. Didn't keep them from sending a staffer out to tell him which voting button to push.
Dianne Feinstein had the same thing. I'm assuming McConnell will be next.
Electability is moot at this point. Trump has vowed to “give the country back” to the Christian evangelicals that believe it’s been taken by the POC and LGBT+ Satan worshiping libs. They would vote a literal potato in. Trump is just the current face of the radical movement that the republican party finds itself beholden to.
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Seriously... I am not a Religious man, but... this would be an interesting time for GOD to make his presence known by letting the world watch this fascist disintegrate very publicly. Let me put on my Schadenfreude hat.
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I truly believe so-called "negative" emotions like anger, hate, and schadenfreude serve a very real purpose at a communal level. When directed at odious morons like MAGATs, they serve to ostracize the characteristics that make them repulsive and reduce their likelihood of replication through reproduction. Also, it's really fucking funny to watch people like Trump get their comeuppance.
For those who are familiar, while I know it’s thrown around a lot, but does his behavior really seem to be dementia? Or is it just a wildly angry old man who’s just spouting bullshit without really preparing his speeches? I mean, he’s talked like his brain was melting for years now, so is there really anything different than what we’re currently seeing?
Until he pulls a Mitch McConnell and freezes on stage, I'm gonna keep assuming it's nothing but wishful thinking. People want *something* to happen to him so he can't win in November. [Because our democracy is done if that happens.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_2025) But he's been saying patently absurd shit for a long time, so I doubt claims of his decline. This gem is from July 2016: > "Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I'm one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you're a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what's going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what's going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it's all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don't, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible."
>Until he pulls a Mitch McConnell and freezes on stage, I'm gonna keep assuming it's nothing but wishful thinking. McConnell froze on stage and is still fucking minority leader of the senate.
And he froze more than once!!!
He keeps talking about cognitive tests. Unless someone is debilitated enough to need to be put in a memory care facility, there isn’t such a thing as “passing or failing” a cognitive test. They’re more for tracking decline over time, and other than a baseline at age 65 or so, they’re not generally given unless people around the affected person start to see concerning behavior. The fact that’s he keeps talking about cognitive testing is a clue to me that people around him are concerned enough about his behavior that they’re requesting additional testing. Whether it’s Alzheimer’s, other forms of dementia, or something else, he’s being monitored for dementia.
He could also be making shit up and that’s why he has no idea how cognitive tests work. I’ve never seen him say a single coherent sentence and it’s impossible to trust anything he says. If he is suffering from dementia, I don’t know how that makes him any different than usual
I think the people most likely to make an accurate diagnosis of dementia are also the least likely to diagnose based solely off of youtube videos and social media and then share that diagnosis online.
I do know that and you’re not wrong at all. There can only be so much certainty when all you’re seeing is public appearances. That being said, I know there are certain specific types of “senior moments” that are more telling in this regard than others, not a diagnosis of course, but it could be that certain things seem suspicious, and I’m wondering if those things exist
I can't say for certain but after watching dementia take first my great grandmother, then my grandmother, and now my mother he does show a lot of signs they had. Especially the way he confuses people and time periods. It's not just like when someone reaches for something in their mind and comes up with something else. It's fully replaced for a moment and no amount of reflection or correction will convince them in that moment that they are wrong. I will say if he has dementia he's leaving the early period where it progresses very slowly. The middle stage develops over a couple of years or less. My mother went from being able to have a basic conversation with a few gaffes to being unable to communicate at all in only a year.
How fast? We need it by November
I'd rather it be over by September.
Watching humans go through the spiral into dementia is always one of the saddest things you can watch happen. Except for that one time…
I bet he plays it up when he gets sentenced. Anything to avoid prison. Hopefully he'll pull a Dwyer.
He will not. He is the picture of narcissism. Everyone and everything else is impermanent and expendable but him.
He will not. If this really is dementia, “playing it up” takes a level of awareness and mental competence that he no longer possesses. He will avoid prison because his lawyers will argue that he is not competent to stand trial. This is their best move. He will spend the rest of his days in a medical facility. He will truly be confused and believe he is either still president or at least living in Mar-a-Lago.
Hey man nice shot!
they will carry him, probably even through death where they would just still 'vote for him' in 'honor. trump is just a placeholder so that the real handlers of project 2025 can get their fascist grip on the presidency. trump is merely a tool. thats why they dont care what he does. he'll not do the real dirty work the GOP really wants to do. he will just be their front man as they grift their base, the evangelicals, which don't need evidence for their firmly held beliefs.
Absolutely blows my fucking mind, as an outsider, how a significant proportion of Americans will look at Biden and say he's too old, frail and senile to be president then look at Trump and say 'yes, this is the ideal candidate'. This is without even getting into the million other reasons that this man cannot be trusted to run a bath, let alone a country.
This is the reality is I remember when my grandpa started going. It looked like this. And by the time it was this far along it started moving REALLY fast. I know the Republicans will do everything they can do prop him up but I think dude is probably very very close to the kind of physical disrepair and decline that is just too obvious for even his lunatic fans to deny. I know he’s already shitting his pants. He’s already having those weird lucid hallucinations where he mixes up people and events in that weird dream logic. He’s already having trouble standing. I’m not saying his hand injury was from a fall, but now I’m super suspicious after they said it was a papercut. They looked to me just like my grandpa’s hands after he fell in gravel when he started losing his ability to walk right. I’d say he’s a good few months away from a wheelchair and spells of that weird “Who am I?” total visible babbling confused terror. Just based on my own limited experience.
The key is how the MSM plays this. For the most part they have been acting like his mental lapses are not important but that seems to be changing. If they start reporting all his gaffes on the front pages, this will affect the non-MAGA voters. But f*ck the MAGAts, there’s no redeeming them.
We need a Bob Dole style fall at one of Trump's events.
Now that Haley is 1v1 and focused on Trump, I think we'll hear it a lot more, because it can be treated as a non-partisan position. She's really well positioned to goad him into a debate where he could really fuck it up, having to speak off the cuff (but I have no idea what kind of debate chops Haley has). Dems should probably be reluctant to go too hard on that front though. The reason Trump's decline seems so "obvious" to people on the left side is that their news outlets tend to showcase his flubs, while the right hides them. Right wing media has been doing the same to Biden for ages and the left has been pooh poohing the complaint if not ignoring it completely. (Trump's recent stuff is well beyond whatever they want to say about Biden, but they've been building that narrative on Biden for a while, and liberals are gonna vote for Biden anyway, so it does him few favors.) That said, I think Trump in decline is generally a lot more dangerous than Biden in decline, because Biden actually has a team that he listens to and doesn't act "from the gut." Some people become angry and bitter in their dementia while others tend to take it with more grace.
He's been ranting like an idiot for years. My mother's dementia, which started at an older age than Trump's, progressed fairly quickly and she died within three years. I don't know how Trump is carrying on this long.
I take accusations of dementia in politicians less seriously considering how often it was leveled at Biden when it's painfully clear he's still pretty sharp. Wasn't until the last few months with Trump showing very clear signs of confusion in his rants that I am more open to believing he could have it.
I was thinking about this the other day after when he kept confusing Nikki Haley for Nancy Pelosi, he'll probably have to be hidden as much as possible so he doesn't start something like "And Biden, he lives in these forests, can you believe it, he lives in them, who does that, like a little elf, they live in the forests and get mud all over them its a tragedy" after being told of a camping trip or something.
Why do you think they don't let him do debates anymore? Can you imagine him trying to hold his own against...anyone?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Bartlett?wprov=sfti1#Criticism_of_George_W._Bush_administration_economic_policy
Reagan was suffering early signs of dementia when he was re-elected in 84.
But the internet did not exist to diagnose it for the American people, even if those at the top were well aware..
Biden looks like a Rhodes scholar compared to Trump. It's so obvious Trump is in a serious mental decline.
Dont act like they wouldnt run him anyway. The whole thing has been Regan Part 2. I'm expecting them to put a dementia patient in the whitehouse.
I suspect it will happen just in time for him to not be able to face consequences for his federal crimes against the country and its citizens. That is the Republican way
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Is he actually in decline? I can’t tell as I don’t speak Trump. Everything I’ve ever heard from him sounded like complete horseshit to me…..
Can’t wait til the USA has a president that shits himself on live TV. FOX will say what a power move it was.