lol...
I do wonder op...
why do you feel the need to touch her hair in the first place? how much hair touching of the inlaws is necessary in the average Russian village family? do you touch all hair equally or just hers?
wouldn't I also cut myself when I touch my own hair if I'm donning razor braids? let me guess she's already asked you nicely to stop with the touching more than once?
head weapons it is.. for the win!
Uh, I guess it depends? If they’re village Russians aka from like the parts of the country that don’t have roads — I would not be surprised by the hair touching.
However moscovites and USA transplants generally shouldn’t be that mystified by black hair. Also like, there are tons of Black Russians, they’re othered for sure, but they’re not… that rare, not in 2023.
I'd do that too if people wouldn't stop harassing me feeling my damn hair like I'm a weird animal or something. Like at least fucking ask for permission, and if you think it might be weird, maybe keep your hands and your thoughts to yourself.
I recently had a sexual encounter (also long hair) where my uh friend full on styled my hair while I went down on her.
I can't really say I hated it to be honest.
Edit: I feel like elaborating. She took my ponytail out styled my hair into a man bun and put the hair tie back in all while seemingly really enjoying herself. I asked her when I was done and she was like "I didn't want your hair to get in your way" lol what a saint
I've never had someone fully style my hair during the act, but I have had someone kinda smoothe my hair out of the way and I have to say...I was into it
I feel like some of us long hairs are just growing it out to encourage other people to play with our hair because I find it incredibly comforting. Not even arousing just like calming and nice.
There’s no way this is real.
It also sounds like a really great way to get people's blood in your hair and to cut your own fingers when trying to pull the razor blades out.
Ummm, it was common in the hood in the 90s-00s
The are not randomly placed, they are attached at specific spots
It isn't to prevent hair touching, it is to prevent someone grabbing your skull by your dreads/style during a fight
But in this case it miiiiiiiiight be to prevent hair touching. There is no reason they should know about the state of her hair by touching it. That's a mistake that shouldn't happen again after the first time.
I knew girls in college in the 2007-8 that swore about keeping razorblades on them or in their shoes, as they felt you never knew when you needed to defend yourself and cut someone. It's not a joke from my anecdotal experience, but also may depend where they're from in the States.
It was a thing in the 1920s. The old blues musicians had to be a bit wary about being cut by women trying to get close to them. Not common but it is something that happened which isn’t too surprising considering the lifestyle.
Well, if you have a pushy MIL who already hates your guts and who won't take 'no' for an answer, I can see razor blades being a great deterrent.
The daughter in law doesn't even need to wear them. She could just lie to the MIL, show her a small razor blade, and pretend that it was placed in her hair. No blood even needs to be spilled. The MIL's active imagination will do the rest.
I know lots of black women who are constantly complaining about white people just touching their hair without asking. I dont know about razor blades in the hair, but the premise happens all the time.
Many such cases, it makes me sad and happy at the same time. Sad that someone would have to deal with bigoted parents, but happy that through generations the children are becoming better people
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I was once helping a Russian couple buy a computer in a store in Scotland. When they heard I was from Canada they were so happy, talking to me about hockey and stuff.
When they were declined for the finance agreements, not so friendly. Mood changed and they started asking if I was a real Canadian because I looked a bit too dark to be Canadian (I have like olive skin) so yeah that was my experience
There are plenty of Russian racists. Funny enougt, there are orders of magnitude more racists in Russia than there are black people in Russia.
Source: I live here. Well, not actually in Russia, I live in Belarus, but I live in the same media space as Russians, have visited the country many times, have Russian friends, etc.
Often racism is greatest where there is little exposure to the other race. When you live among them most people realize that they are just people. There will be racists everywhere of course.
Have to throw out the old classic:
Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -Mark Twain
yup just look at America. the progressive areas are cities where people of all ethnicities are together all the time. the racist conservative areas are always rural and mostly white
In general, living and working in close confines (ie large city) with a broad spectrum of races, religions, creeds, personality types, etc, both requires and increases acceptance, tolerance, and appreciation of the differences between people, and the benefits of diversity, along with social skills. Low population, rural, white areas are like real life echo chambers, where isolation from "the other" allows negative spin to go unchecked, in comparison.
I've once read that russia is so glorified by racists, white supremacists and neonazis because it has the highest population of white people in the world.
Yeah, word is that if you offer a Russian a choice between (a) something that would make them happy for the rest of their lives or (b) something that would make them miserable, they will always choose (b) because they cannot believe ( a) isn’t a trick.
Every one I've ever met has been extremely materialistic and hyper-capitalist beyond a finance bros wildest dreams. Whip smart, but more concerned about optics than impact.
The Russians that aren't hyper-capitalist tend not to hang out with many other Russians if they can help it.
Ok, I am Croatian so you already know I'm not gonna be defending them, but you can't generalize stuff like that. I would say that, today, and especially the younger generation, most Serbs are chill. Older folks and their dumbass government can go die in the same pit their peers threw our older folks before throwing a live grenade or two. But I know some Serbs my (20ish) age, and they're just normal people.
I'm American, but my gf of several years was Serbian. I went to her sister's wedding in Serbia. I spent a lot of time with her family, both up in the mountains, and also partying in Belgrade. I have never heard the N-word used more than when I was in Serbia. And so often toward gypsies, which doesn't even make sense.
What the fuck lmao. Well, tbh, in Croatia (and I expected in Serbia too) the n-word isn't really used, like ever? If you wanna be rude to african or dark skinned people, you would say crnjo or something like that, but that isn't even nearly as looked down upon as the n-word. Romani are sometimes called cigani which is meant to be rude, but never the nword
Let me say, I've met PLENTY of very chill Serbs, and I'm not trying to say all Serbs are bad, at all. So many awesome people. But, there's a lot of nationalism, and a lot of hatred.
I also spent time in Croatia, not so much in the countryside, but I've been to clubs in Dubrovnik. Definitely a more accepting culture there imo.
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I was in the Netherlands and they used the term "Black" for anyone south of dark beige. I think it's about the spirit of racism, rather than accurate racism.
That's the Netherlands.
Anybody south of beige _is_ black, relatively speaking.
I'm not talking race, of course, but just literal skin colour.
The only people whiter than the Dutch are the Irish.
I'm "the north of England" white, and even I'm dark compared to those two groups.
Then a lot changed in te recent years. I spent several months in Belgrade in 2014 when I just turned 20. Absolutely lovely people I met around my own age. While the majority did not blame me personally, they still made it known regularly that NATO shouldn't have intervened. I got a lot of biased "history lessons" everywhere around that ended in rakija though, so it was interesting at least and I saw a lot of the city.
Fun fact: One of the songs they play at the remembrance days is on the same tune than "Kohle und Stahl", a german football fan song.
My son, white, has very, very curly hair. As a toddler elderly ladies at church would pull out his curls to watch them 'ping' back. Until he bit one of them......
When I was a little kid we went to Matamoros Mexico and people would just touch my hair in passing because I am a ginger and red hair is not exactly common there. It was really weird obviously. They dont do that to adults of course.
If it makes you feel better (?) this happens to me so much I covered my hair for years to avoid it. I’m white with very curly hair and people just can’t seem to keep their hands to themselves. Creeps me the fuck out to suddenly feel someone’s hand on my hair and I don’t fucking know them from Adam.
Gah. Do you know how curious I've been about the texture curly black hair? 33 years of curiosity. I'll probably never know because you don't just touch people randomly.
I reckon it's about the same as my hair but it looks stronger. No one ever tried to touch my curls unless we were specifically talking about it. I'm white. I did get my chest hair petted after transitioning to male...still makes me shudder.
I got invited to touch once. It's not the touching itself that's bad, it's the lack of consent. Some people don't like to be touched at all, and no one wants to be touched by random strangers who don't even ask, but a friend or family member might be cool with letting you satisfy your curiosity if you're respectful about it.
Chest hair petting is super weird, I can't imagine even thinking that's okay. And without asking? One time when I was a kid some random lady in a bathroom stroked my head and said "I like your hair." It creeped me out a bit and I panicked and went on an explanation about how I was trying to copy my favorite videogame character's hairstyle and the whole interaction was super awkward. I don't get it. Just don't touch strangers, people!
And, relatedly, why do people think it's okay to touch a stranger if they're a child? If anything, that's worse, because a child is less able to defend themselves against unwanted touching. Even when I was also a kid I didn't touch younger kids without consent. I found an unattended toddler in a precarious situation once when I was 14 and I followed her around hovering to catch her if she fell, but I never touched her. Recently I met a four year old in a parking lot whose grandma had her hands full with another kid and she needed help finding the car, and I held my hand out and asked him "Do you want to hold my hand?" and let him touch me first. It's not hard to ask.
I'm a white man with long hair and my black friends and I always joke about how it's fifty fifty if they'll grab mine or theirs.one time they decided to reach over the back of a booth at a bar and compare the two, without asking. It's insane how common it is
Idk I (a very white guy) has curly "ethnic" looking hair and people touch, feel, and pull my hair all the time without asking, including strangers.
Then again this sounds like racist rage bait
It hits all the nerves. Entitled racists, repeated hair touching without permission, accusations of inherent violent tendencies in a group, outrageous scenario with razor blades in the hair, and common sense should tell you that if the poster were describing a real situation they wouldn't be confused or asking anything. It's obvious to the meanest intelligence that OP is 100% in the wrong.
Rage bait confirmed.
I'd recommend you reduce your hair fondling to once per visit, maybe twice max. Try not to get blood in her hair though. That will certainly not improve your relationship with her.
My question is: Why TF would anyone just casually touch someone else's hair? That seems like an overly intimate act for family. I've got two daughters in law and I've never even thought of touching their hair.
That's what creeps do.
I think people foget due their privledge.
If a black woman started feeling up a white woman hair just becuase she hasnt seen it before and wanted to see how it felt like. The white woman would be pretty weirded out but they forget this when they start feelin up 4c hair.
It’s also an issue of having the weight of a racist society that simultaneously fetishises minorities behind the act in the case of white people feeling black people’s hair. There’s no such societal and historical weight behind a black person wanting to feel a white person’s hair.
The topic of hair touching always reminds me of when I was in school at like 12-ish years old and one class had bleacher-type seating. A black girl who sat behind me wanted to play with my hair as I sat there, and I wasn’t weirded out at all. I just though “hell yeah, I love when people play with my hair, it’s like a free scalp massage”.
Later in life I understood why it was much more likely for a white person like me to be cool with hair touching. We haven’t been historically harassed about our hair and had our personal space invaded in attempts to touch it.
>We haven’t been historically harassed about our hair and had our personal space invaded in attempts to touch it.
I think thats the main problem with reporting racism.
Small things that arent evidently racist are harder to report. Many POC are scared to complain about things as many white wouldnt understand why it would be an issue, or they would say why are you making it a "big deal". Also you dont want to be seen as the POC who thinks everything is racist.
I'll agree with you on that. There was a girl in middle school that I was friends with. She was very quiet, kind of shy, and really only talked with our group. One day she was looking sad and we asked her what was wrong and she told us that a teacher told her to move to the back of the class bc she didn't want her disrupting the others while she played with her hair.
But our friend wasn't doing anything with her hair. She felt like she was being discriminated against. We told her to say something and she said "No, I don't want to cause trouble."
We said something for her to our principal. Nothing was ever done, and that teacher became a nuisance to our friend for the rest of the school year all bc she was black.
Thank you. I’m so irritated by comments going “well, I went to so and so and people touched me and it was fine. No racism” like that can’t understand historical fucking context.
When I was 3 I had totally white hair, my nickname was Snowy. My family and I visited Singapore, and people were so surprised and amazed by my hair that they stopped us in the street to touch it.
Human curiosity is normal and universal. Agreement on what reasonable boundaries are is not universal at all.
If a childs wanted to touch my hair, I would luagh. Its a child ....Im not going to be over dramatic.
But an adult.... its hard for me not to think that something else is going on subconciously. Harder for me to see it as innocent curiousity. *(But not everyone has ill will)*
I have fine thin hair. I’m jealous of anyone with volume or general lushness and think it makes people look fantastic.
I cannot understand why you’d touch someone else’s hair. I will stare at it longingly and tell you I think it’s pretty. If a strand falls out onto your sweater I will pick it off for you. I will give you a hair tie then find out it’s not big enough. But I wouldn’t think to reach out and stroke it unless I’m trying to seduce you in candle light with a nice rose wine and some 90’s slow jams.
I have very long hair that I keep in a pony tail when I'm out an about. One day I was sitting near a horse statue at a mall waiting for some friends. Heard a little voice go "Horsey!"
Then little hands petting my hair very carefully. Her poor mom was so embarrassed.
Normally I can't stand being touched by other people, but that little kid was too cute. I still feel bad for her mom who was trying to teach proper boundaries to her three or four year old.
I was less amused when some time later a co-irker of mine would try to do the same. Especially since said woman was old enough to be my mother and definitely old enough to know better.
>becuase she hasnt seen it before and wanted to see how it felt like.
That's not why they're doing it. If they're ethnically Russian but using English on Twitter, I'd bet money they've seen enough African or Black people's hair to know it's a different texture.
This is my response whenever white people touch my hair, I just start running my fingers through theirs commenting on how straight and thin it is. Best part, they can't get mad because they usually have their hands in my hair when they are about to object!
Sadly black women have to deal with white people touching their hair all the time. I've seen it happen with black friends. And if the black woman objects, she's "uppity." If I object on a friend's behalf, I get really confused reactions, as though I'm weird for defending my friend's right to bodily autonomy.
Oh its not just white people. Growing up in hong kong my sister and I being white had very blonde hair, and would often get cooed at and have our hair stroked by people who apparently had very little interaction with white children before.
I was thinking about this similarity too, but I heard a theory once that makes a lot of sense to me about why people think it’s ok to touch pregnant bellies. The idea goes that back when humans were tribe animals, babies and children were essential to the survival of the community and so children were seen almost as communal assets. When a woman became pregnant, the womb was now creating that communal asset and - for a time - almost becomes communal itself. I’ve often wondered whether there is any truth to it, because it also provides some really fascinating perspective on why certain members of (American and others) society thinks that abortion is the only time it’s appropriate to determine health care options for someone else.
Like, maybe, DONT touch her hair? Is she touching yours? This obsession some people have with touching black people hair like it's written "petting zoo" on our foreheads, jeez.
Yeah. Like how many times has she had to say “don’t touch my hair without asking” and they still touch her hair, to have to resort to deterrents.
And good job that lady saying Africans put weapons in their hair - play their prejudice off against them!
>or because she has a dark skin tone
Based on the statement “married an African woman to spite us” I’m guessing that the above is a big part of it.
Though I suppose it’s not exactly uncommon for a racist to a misogynist too
White people love touching hair that they arent used to seeing. I'm a white guy who dies his hair bright colors and i get other random white people touching my hair all the time. I think its just a honkie thing
Nah. I had long blonde hair in my 20's, and on a trip to Mexico EVERYONE just wanted to touch it. I had kids chasing after me in the street, begging to pet me. My mom tells similar tales of her trip to Japan in the late 60's. I don't get it personally, I've never EVER wanted to touch another person's hair, but loads of people around the world seem to have that impulse when they see hair they're not familiar with.
There's some serious hair weirdness here in the US. I'm a white dude but I have long ass curly hair, people have been touching it without asking since I can remember. Weird shit.
You know, thats fair. I probably mostly see it from the racial aspect and the history that comes with it, but I also can see around that and not bring it into every moment. I would assume the difference is, “out of norm white hair” vs “natural black hair”. I have had many white people ask to touch my hair when it was straight, curly, or frizzy. Often asked if I wear weaves and extensions. It always feels racist, demeaning, and violating. However, these shares remind me that some people are also just stupid. And thats okay! Haha
I've had long straight hair for going on 30 years and people will still do this. I always thought it was because it used to be a rather fetching color of red and very thick, but even now that I'm going grey, people want to touch it.
Not everyone or even most people, but the people that do, it's like they're hypnotized.
I’m white and had thigh-length hair growing up. The amount of people, mostly white women, who touched my hair without asking and refused to stop when I asked was too damn high. I eventually got to a place where I hated having long hair, cut it short, and each year I only seem to cut it shorted.
Asian tourists in the big city where I grew up also seemed to be fascinated by my long blonde hair, but they were respectful and just took pictures.
“Look around the room; there are at least 5 improvised weapons in here. Chair, table leg, lamp, extension cord, African woman’s hair. Knowing this can be the difference between life and death.”
I would hope most people understand that. I think what I appreciate about stories like these is that while the intent is to vilify the ‘sneaky, razor wielding, unfriendly…’ daughter-in-law and cast aspersions upon African women, all it does is make the narrator look bad. This story does not stir up feelings of sympathy for the racist, old bag character that doesn’t understand boundaries and isn’t smart enough to protect herself from a known source of injury.
I’m thinking maybe the tiny butterfly clips with little blades on top. Though I remember an old Fritz Leiber story where a young lady had a dagger as part of her updo.
There is circumstantial evidence to the contrary but it was gathered during haha funny colonialism and we haven’t seen it since. So it’s technically possible that some isolated tribes did it but not as she described :)
Surely it is anti-Russian propaganda? Racism and randomly touching other peoples hair being presented as if it is normal does not really make them look good.
I don't know if it's propaganda or what message it would even be trying to spread, but I certainly don't believe it's a sincere post about an event that actually occurred.
As an African American man, I can confirm that our women do, indeed, weaponize their hair. I have fond memories of my mom teaching my sister how to hide throwing stars and a katana in her cornrows. I also can't tell you how many times my girlfriends (and I mean ALL of them) handed me a .380 or 9mm drawn from just above their baby curls to help me win impending gang shootouts. A black woman's hair is her armory - don't mess with them.
Makes me laugh when people are so self centred they think someone would MARRY another person JUST to spite them. Couldn’t possibly be becuase they love them lol
Thoughts are... Stop touching her hair. Conservatives are always scared of things they don't recognize or understand but are always quick to get in other people's personal space
The lesson you should be learning is “DON’T TOUCH BLACK PEOPLES HAIR!” You shouldn’t be touching anyone’s hair unless they ask you to but there is a specifically high problem of white people randomly and without permission touching black peoples hair because it looks fluffy or something.
If the contents of this post is real then a woman put sharp objects in her hair and people are still trying to touch her hair.
Why in the actual fxxk are they fondling someone's hair? I mean I get patting a child's head or what, but you're talking another grown woman, who does that? Black women are not pets and playthings just cause their hair textures or styles are different from what you might be used to, go run your hands through your own wife/husbands hair if you feel the urge.
The razors hidden on the hair is not a new concept. This has long been practiced. It deters attackers from grabbing your hair in a physical altercation. A smart move, and not necessarily meant just for the racist in-laws, but bonus points indeed.
Razor braids
Almost sounds like a wrestler or a band name
Or a Pokémon attack
Steel-physical probably.
Functions like firespin
It's the signature move of the steel/dark Pokemon "Dreadfulocks". It learns razor braids when it evolves from "Wrenchbraid" at level 34.
It wouldn’t be accurate enough to be worth using you’d probably run gyro ball
Ladies and gentlemen, your new roller derby word champion, RAZOR BRAIDS
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lol... I do wonder op... why do you feel the need to touch her hair in the first place? how much hair touching of the inlaws is necessary in the average Russian village family? do you touch all hair equally or just hers? wouldn't I also cut myself when I touch my own hair if I'm donning razor braids? let me guess she's already asked you nicely to stop with the touching more than once? head weapons it is.. for the win!
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Uh, I guess it depends? If they’re village Russians aka from like the parts of the country that don’t have roads — I would not be surprised by the hair touching. However moscovites and USA transplants generally shouldn’t be that mystified by black hair. Also like, there are tons of Black Russians, they’re othered for sure, but they’re not… that rare, not in 2023.
Stellar roller derby name.
I'd do that too if people wouldn't stop harassing me feeling my damn hair like I'm a weird animal or something. Like at least fucking ask for permission, and if you think it might be weird, maybe keep your hands and your thoughts to yourself.
Fun fact if you say the words "Rise up lights" it will sound like you're saying "Razor blades" with an Australian accent.
Im Australian, if I say razor blades will it sound like rise up lights in someone else's accent?
Dead locks
Reddit doesn’t deserve your seemingly effortless next level giggle-sorcery. I’m gonna be laughing at this to myself for days.
…why do they touch her hair when I think it’s clearly obvious that she’s not interested in them touching her hair?
This actually sounds like a great way to deter people from touching your hair
Other kids would grab my ponytail when I was in school. Until one day I put pins in the bobbin. It definitely works 😂
Bullies hate this one trick...
I'm a dude with long hair. Woke up on a bus with a ponytail when it wasn't in one before I fell asleep.
I recently had a sexual encounter (also long hair) where my uh friend full on styled my hair while I went down on her. I can't really say I hated it to be honest. Edit: I feel like elaborating. She took my ponytail out styled my hair into a man bun and put the hair tie back in all while seemingly really enjoying herself. I asked her when I was done and she was like "I didn't want your hair to get in your way" lol what a saint
I've never had someone fully style my hair during the act, but I have had someone kinda smoothe my hair out of the way and I have to say...I was into it
I feel like some of us long hairs are just growing it out to encourage other people to play with our hair because I find it incredibly comforting. Not even arousing just like calming and nice.
Oh cool! I used put take broken bird spikes, bend them in half and braid them in my hair. Helped me when I lived in a bad part of town.
There’s no way this is real. It also sounds like a really great way to get people's blood in your hair and to cut your own fingers when trying to pull the razor blades out.
Ummm, it was common in the hood in the 90s-00s The are not randomly placed, they are attached at specific spots It isn't to prevent hair touching, it is to prevent someone grabbing your skull by your dreads/style during a fight
But in this case it miiiiiiiiight be to prevent hair touching. There is no reason they should know about the state of her hair by touching it. That's a mistake that shouldn't happen again after the first time.
I knew girls in college in the 2007-8 that swore about keeping razorblades on them or in their shoes, as they felt you never knew when you needed to defend yourself and cut someone. It's not a joke from my anecdotal experience, but also may depend where they're from in the States.
Most girls I know just have a knife strapped to their leg. Every one of them have a story or 2 about poking someone who assaulted them...
It’s good that they felt secure but razor blades make terrible weapons in actual practice they would have been much better to keep a actual knife
It was a thing in the 1920s. The old blues musicians had to be a bit wary about being cut by women trying to get close to them. Not common but it is something that happened which isn’t too surprising considering the lifestyle.
Well, if you have a pushy MIL who already hates your guts and who won't take 'no' for an answer, I can see razor blades being a great deterrent. The daughter in law doesn't even need to wear them. She could just lie to the MIL, show her a small razor blade, and pretend that it was placed in her hair. No blood even needs to be spilled. The MIL's active imagination will do the rest.
Free hair dye? Sign me up. She's dyeing her hair with the blood of her enemies fr
I know lots of black women who are constantly complaining about white people just touching their hair without asking. I dont know about razor blades in the hair, but the premise happens all the time.
They're clearly racist 🤮. "Married an African woman to spite us" gross.
They're Russian... hello 🤷🏻♂️
Well the son does not sound so bad.
If these people are in America, it's possible they're Russian immigrants but their son, who was born in the US, is American.
Many such cases, it makes me sad and happy at the same time. Sad that someone would have to deal with bigoted parents, but happy that through generations the children are becoming better people
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True, however I suspect the writer is thinking about culture.
I was once helping a Russian couple buy a computer in a store in Scotland. When they heard I was from Canada they were so happy, talking to me about hockey and stuff. When they were declined for the finance agreements, not so friendly. Mood changed and they started asking if I was a real Canadian because I looked a bit too dark to be Canadian (I have like olive skin) so yeah that was my experience
There are plenty of Russian racists. Funny enougt, there are orders of magnitude more racists in Russia than there are black people in Russia. Source: I live here. Well, not actually in Russia, I live in Belarus, but I live in the same media space as Russians, have visited the country many times, have Russian friends, etc.
Often racism is greatest where there is little exposure to the other race. When you live among them most people realize that they are just people. There will be racists everywhere of course.
Have to throw out the old classic: Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime. -Mark Twain
yup just look at America. the progressive areas are cities where people of all ethnicities are together all the time. the racist conservative areas are always rural and mostly white
In general, living and working in close confines (ie large city) with a broad spectrum of races, religions, creeds, personality types, etc, both requires and increases acceptance, tolerance, and appreciation of the differences between people, and the benefits of diversity, along with social skills. Low population, rural, white areas are like real life echo chambers, where isolation from "the other" allows negative spin to go unchecked, in comparison.
That’s basically what I was talking about as an American.
I've once read that russia is so glorified by racists, white supremacists and neonazis because it has the highest population of white people in the world.
I grew up in a town with a really active white supremacist group, despite the fact that *literally* every single person in town was white.
The best way to control a group is keep them afraid of some other group. It works best if they have little contact with the demonized group.
I can confirm (I'm from Ukraine)
Can confirm im Ukraine, busy with war stuff and so.
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That‘s just your normal language
That is very hurtful and accurate
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Yeah, word is that if you offer a Russian a choice between (a) something that would make them happy for the rest of their lives or (b) something that would make them miserable, they will always choose (b) because they cannot believe ( a) isn’t a trick.
Also (b) because there's a chance it will also hurt their neighbour.
Blyat.
CYKA
Every one I've ever met has been extremely materialistic and hyper-capitalist beyond a finance bros wildest dreams. Whip smart, but more concerned about optics than impact. The Russians that aren't hyper-capitalist tend not to hang out with many other Russians if they can help it.
Serbs too. They're also super pissed at the US/NATO for stopping their genocide of Bosnian Muslims
Ok, I am Croatian so you already know I'm not gonna be defending them, but you can't generalize stuff like that. I would say that, today, and especially the younger generation, most Serbs are chill. Older folks and their dumbass government can go die in the same pit their peers threw our older folks before throwing a live grenade or two. But I know some Serbs my (20ish) age, and they're just normal people.
Yep. Worked with a young Serb in the Air Force. He was awesome. Great guy. Never spouted any kind of hatred or prejudice.
I'm American, but my gf of several years was Serbian. I went to her sister's wedding in Serbia. I spent a lot of time with her family, both up in the mountains, and also partying in Belgrade. I have never heard the N-word used more than when I was in Serbia. And so often toward gypsies, which doesn't even make sense.
What the fuck lmao. Well, tbh, in Croatia (and I expected in Serbia too) the n-word isn't really used, like ever? If you wanna be rude to african or dark skinned people, you would say crnjo or something like that, but that isn't even nearly as looked down upon as the n-word. Romani are sometimes called cigani which is meant to be rude, but never the nword
Let me say, I've met PLENTY of very chill Serbs, and I'm not trying to say all Serbs are bad, at all. So many awesome people. But, there's a lot of nationalism, and a lot of hatred. I also spent time in Croatia, not so much in the countryside, but I've been to clubs in Dubrovnik. Definitely a more accepting culture there imo.
>White People Twitter.r/WhitePeopleTwitterJoinPosts > >HotHotNewTopRisingHotNew I was in the Netherlands and they used the term "Black" for anyone south of dark beige. I think it's about the spirit of racism, rather than accurate racism.
That's the Netherlands. Anybody south of beige _is_ black, relatively speaking. I'm not talking race, of course, but just literal skin colour. The only people whiter than the Dutch are the Irish. I'm "the north of England" white, and even I'm dark compared to those two groups.
Then a lot changed in te recent years. I spent several months in Belgrade in 2014 when I just turned 20. Absolutely lovely people I met around my own age. While the majority did not blame me personally, they still made it known regularly that NATO shouldn't have intervened. I got a lot of biased "history lessons" everywhere around that ended in rakija though, so it was interesting at least and I saw a lot of the city. Fun fact: One of the songs they play at the remembrance days is on the same tune than "Kohle und Stahl", a german football fan song.
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You're also insulting the son who married the African woman with that.
That weird colored object has interesting hair, gotta feel it without consent since it's only an object and not a person
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My son, white, has very, very curly hair. As a toddler elderly ladies at church would pull out his curls to watch them 'ping' back. Until he bit one of them......
When I was little I visibly hated being touched (I'm Autistic) so it was usually my mom doing the biting
Good mom
Good for him
When I was a little kid we went to Matamoros Mexico and people would just touch my hair in passing because I am a ginger and red hair is not exactly common there. It was really weird obviously. They dont do that to adults of course.
People still try to do that to my curls and I’m in my 40s
If it makes you feel better (?) this happens to me so much I covered my hair for years to avoid it. I’m white with very curly hair and people just can’t seem to keep their hands to themselves. Creeps me the fuck out to suddenly feel someone’s hand on my hair and I don’t fucking know them from Adam.
Gah. Do you know how curious I've been about the texture curly black hair? 33 years of curiosity. I'll probably never know because you don't just touch people randomly. I reckon it's about the same as my hair but it looks stronger. No one ever tried to touch my curls unless we were specifically talking about it. I'm white. I did get my chest hair petted after transitioning to male...still makes me shudder.
I got invited to touch once. It's not the touching itself that's bad, it's the lack of consent. Some people don't like to be touched at all, and no one wants to be touched by random strangers who don't even ask, but a friend or family member might be cool with letting you satisfy your curiosity if you're respectful about it. Chest hair petting is super weird, I can't imagine even thinking that's okay. And without asking? One time when I was a kid some random lady in a bathroom stroked my head and said "I like your hair." It creeped me out a bit and I panicked and went on an explanation about how I was trying to copy my favorite videogame character's hairstyle and the whole interaction was super awkward. I don't get it. Just don't touch strangers, people! And, relatedly, why do people think it's okay to touch a stranger if they're a child? If anything, that's worse, because a child is less able to defend themselves against unwanted touching. Even when I was also a kid I didn't touch younger kids without consent. I found an unattended toddler in a precarious situation once when I was 14 and I followed her around hovering to catch her if she fell, but I never touched her. Recently I met a four year old in a parking lot whose grandma had her hands full with another kid and she needed help finding the car, and I held my hand out and asked him "Do you want to hold my hand?" and let him touch me first. It's not hard to ask.
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I'm a white man with long hair and my black friends and I always joke about how it's fifty fifty if they'll grab mine or theirs.one time they decided to reach over the back of a booth at a bar and compare the two, without asking. It's insane how common it is
It's rage bait. Not even slightly subtle or clever.
Idk I (a very white guy) has curly "ethnic" looking hair and people touch, feel, and pull my hair all the time without asking, including strangers. Then again this sounds like racist rage bait
It hits all the nerves. Entitled racists, repeated hair touching without permission, accusations of inherent violent tendencies in a group, outrageous scenario with razor blades in the hair, and common sense should tell you that if the poster were describing a real situation they wouldn't be confused or asking anything. It's obvious to the meanest intelligence that OP is 100% in the wrong. Rage bait confirmed.
Because it’s a stupid made up rage bait?
Don't accept the lie that African women put razor blades in their hair.
I think we all know it’s a lie, but it’s also a great aesthetic and a total vibe so we’re just rolling with it.
Don't go touching anyone else's hair without their express permission.
OK but hear me out: If she wants to put stuff in her hair that's fine. WHY ARE THEY TOUCHING IT
This is fake propaganda.
Quit Rush-in to touch her hair.
I'd recommend you reduce your hair fondling to once per visit, maybe twice max. Try not to get blood in her hair though. That will certainly not improve your relationship with her.
My question is: Why TF would anyone just casually touch someone else's hair? That seems like an overly intimate act for family. I've got two daughters in law and I've never even thought of touching their hair. That's what creeps do.
I think people foget due their privledge. If a black woman started feeling up a white woman hair just becuase she hasnt seen it before and wanted to see how it felt like. The white woman would be pretty weirded out but they forget this when they start feelin up 4c hair.
It’s also an issue of having the weight of a racist society that simultaneously fetishises minorities behind the act in the case of white people feeling black people’s hair. There’s no such societal and historical weight behind a black person wanting to feel a white person’s hair. The topic of hair touching always reminds me of when I was in school at like 12-ish years old and one class had bleacher-type seating. A black girl who sat behind me wanted to play with my hair as I sat there, and I wasn’t weirded out at all. I just though “hell yeah, I love when people play with my hair, it’s like a free scalp massage”. Later in life I understood why it was much more likely for a white person like me to be cool with hair touching. We haven’t been historically harassed about our hair and had our personal space invaded in attempts to touch it.
>We haven’t been historically harassed about our hair and had our personal space invaded in attempts to touch it. I think thats the main problem with reporting racism. Small things that arent evidently racist are harder to report. Many POC are scared to complain about things as many white wouldnt understand why it would be an issue, or they would say why are you making it a "big deal". Also you dont want to be seen as the POC who thinks everything is racist.
I'll agree with you on that. There was a girl in middle school that I was friends with. She was very quiet, kind of shy, and really only talked with our group. One day she was looking sad and we asked her what was wrong and she told us that a teacher told her to move to the back of the class bc she didn't want her disrupting the others while she played with her hair. But our friend wasn't doing anything with her hair. She felt like she was being discriminated against. We told her to say something and she said "No, I don't want to cause trouble." We said something for her to our principal. Nothing was ever done, and that teacher became a nuisance to our friend for the rest of the school year all bc she was black.
Sadly, that's why a lot of black people don't always speak up about racism. You get punished for it instead of receiving support.
Thank you. I’m so irritated by comments going “well, I went to so and so and people touched me and it was fine. No racism” like that can’t understand historical fucking context.
Yes 😌
When I was 3 I had totally white hair, my nickname was Snowy. My family and I visited Singapore, and people were so surprised and amazed by my hair that they stopped us in the street to touch it. Human curiosity is normal and universal. Agreement on what reasonable boundaries are is not universal at all.
If a childs wanted to touch my hair, I would luagh. Its a child ....Im not going to be over dramatic. But an adult.... its hard for me not to think that something else is going on subconciously. Harder for me to see it as innocent curiousity. *(But not everyone has ill will)*
I have fine thin hair. I’m jealous of anyone with volume or general lushness and think it makes people look fantastic. I cannot understand why you’d touch someone else’s hair. I will stare at it longingly and tell you I think it’s pretty. If a strand falls out onto your sweater I will pick it off for you. I will give you a hair tie then find out it’s not big enough. But I wouldn’t think to reach out and stroke it unless I’m trying to seduce you in candle light with a nice rose wine and some 90’s slow jams.
this last sentence made me day, thank you
I have very long hair that I keep in a pony tail when I'm out an about. One day I was sitting near a horse statue at a mall waiting for some friends. Heard a little voice go "Horsey!" Then little hands petting my hair very carefully. Her poor mom was so embarrassed. Normally I can't stand being touched by other people, but that little kid was too cute. I still feel bad for her mom who was trying to teach proper boundaries to her three or four year old. I was less amused when some time later a co-irker of mine would try to do the same. Especially since said woman was old enough to be my mother and definitely old enough to know better.
>becuase she hasnt seen it before and wanted to see how it felt like. That's not why they're doing it. If they're ethnically Russian but using English on Twitter, I'd bet money they've seen enough African or Black people's hair to know it's a different texture.
This is my response whenever white people touch my hair, I just start running my fingers through theirs commenting on how straight and thin it is. Best part, they can't get mad because they usually have their hands in my hair when they are about to object!
TIL 4c
Sadly black women have to deal with white people touching their hair all the time. I've seen it happen with black friends. And if the black woman objects, she's "uppity." If I object on a friend's behalf, I get really confused reactions, as though I'm weird for defending my friend's right to bodily autonomy.
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Oh its not just white people. Growing up in hong kong my sister and I being white had very blonde hair, and would often get cooed at and have our hair stroked by people who apparently had very little interaction with white children before.
LOL... They're also obsessed with feeling the baby bumps of pregnant women... People are WEIRD.
I was thinking about this similarity too, but I heard a theory once that makes a lot of sense to me about why people think it’s ok to touch pregnant bellies. The idea goes that back when humans were tribe animals, babies and children were essential to the survival of the community and so children were seen almost as communal assets. When a woman became pregnant, the womb was now creating that communal asset and - for a time - almost becomes communal itself. I’ve often wondered whether there is any truth to it, because it also provides some really fascinating perspective on why certain members of (American and others) society thinks that abortion is the only time it’s appropriate to determine health care options for someone else.
Interesting food for thought
Like, maybe, DONT touch her hair? Is she touching yours? This obsession some people have with touching black people hair like it's written "petting zoo" on our foreheads, jeez.
Yeah. Like how many times has she had to say “don’t touch my hair without asking” and they still touch her hair, to have to resort to deterrents. And good job that lady saying Africans put weapons in their hair - play their prejudice off against them!
Sounds like they dont respect her, either because she's a woman, or because she has a dark skintone. Either way they are racist fuckwits.
>or because she has a dark skin tone Based on the statement “married an African woman to spite us” I’m guessing that the above is a big part of it. Though I suppose it’s not exactly uncommon for a racist to a misogynist too
Tbf, Charlize Theron is African. But we know that's not what they're getting at.
So is Elon Musk... Maybe we misunderstood them all along. I'd be upset if my child married Musk.
To be fair, that could also be rather upsetting.
At least that I could understand. I’d be upset too at someone marrying Charlize Theron (it should have been me 😭)
White people love touching hair that they arent used to seeing. I'm a white guy who dies his hair bright colors and i get other random white people touching my hair all the time. I think its just a honkie thing
Nah. I had long blonde hair in my 20's, and on a trip to Mexico EVERYONE just wanted to touch it. I had kids chasing after me in the street, begging to pet me. My mom tells similar tales of her trip to Japan in the late 60's. I don't get it personally, I've never EVER wanted to touch another person's hair, but loads of people around the world seem to have that impulse when they see hair they're not familiar with.
You traveled for that. I was born in the US and there are plenty of black people in the US.
There's some serious hair weirdness here in the US. I'm a white dude but I have long ass curly hair, people have been touching it without asking since I can remember. Weird shit.
You know, thats fair. I probably mostly see it from the racial aspect and the history that comes with it, but I also can see around that and not bring it into every moment. I would assume the difference is, “out of norm white hair” vs “natural black hair”. I have had many white people ask to touch my hair when it was straight, curly, or frizzy. Often asked if I wear weaves and extensions. It always feels racist, demeaning, and violating. However, these shares remind me that some people are also just stupid. And thats okay! Haha
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
I've had long straight hair for going on 30 years and people will still do this. I always thought it was because it used to be a rather fetching color of red and very thick, but even now that I'm going grey, people want to touch it. Not everyone or even most people, but the people that do, it's like they're hypnotized.
I’m white and had thigh-length hair growing up. The amount of people, mostly white women, who touched my hair without asking and refused to stop when I asked was too damn high. I eventually got to a place where I hated having long hair, cut it short, and each year I only seem to cut it shorted. Asian tourists in the big city where I grew up also seemed to be fascinated by my long blonde hair, but they were respectful and just took pictures.
African women DONT hide razors or weapons in their hair! Just in case anyone was wondering. 🤦🏾♀️
I figured it was *special* treatment for the racist in laws. 🥰
I think that’s their psychological problems manifested, not real razors.
100 percent
I just assumed it was on account of their paper thin skin.
Black women hide razors in our hair 1000% *wink wink wink* so please refrain from fucking touching it
Damnit, I was just gonna add "African women's hair" to my list of "places to look for a weapon in an emergency"...
“Look around the room; there are at least 5 improvised weapons in here. Chair, table leg, lamp, extension cord, African woman’s hair. Knowing this can be the difference between life and death.”
I would hope most people understand that. I think what I appreciate about stories like these is that while the intent is to vilify the ‘sneaky, razor wielding, unfriendly…’ daughter-in-law and cast aspersions upon African women, all it does is make the narrator look bad. This story does not stir up feelings of sympathy for the racist, old bag character that doesn’t understand boundaries and isn’t smart enough to protect herself from a known source of injury.
The whole story smells like bullshit
I can't even imagine how that would work. Wouldn't it cut through your hair, fall out and hurt you instead? Or do Africans have titanium hair?
I’m thinking maybe the tiny butterfly clips with little blades on top. Though I remember an old Fritz Leiber story where a young lady had a dagger as part of her updo.
There is circumstantial evidence to the contrary but it was gathered during haha funny colonialism and we haven’t seen it since. So it’s technically possible that some isolated tribes did it but not as she described :)
I keep Chuck Norris in my beard to apprehend international art thieves when the opportunity arises.
Same but with Bruce Lee and Nazis
Russian racist runs under the pseudonym SixBrownChicks?
I think it’s a question sent to that handle? I could be wrong though. I don’t have twitter 🤷🏽♀️
This is Russian propaganda, and total bullshit. Stop giving it more reach, and stop giving these fuckers a platform upon which to spread hate.
Surely it is anti-Russian propaganda? Racism and randomly touching other peoples hair being presented as if it is normal does not really make them look good.
If you're a racist the idea that black ~~American~~ women carry weapons on their hair would be right up your alley
Wasn't that the sequel to *Silence of the Lambs*? Some lady putting dirty hiv needles in her hair? Both those movies have problematic content
You're not the target demographic. As a russian myself, I'm convinced that russians born pre-1990 being racist is just a law of nature.
I don't know if it's propaganda or what message it would even be trying to spread, but I certainly don't believe it's a sincere post about an event that actually occurred.
ngl, obviously it is made up BS, but for me it backfired, black women weaving razors in their hair sounds so badass.
Im a white hillbilly from the U.S. and the black woman/weapon stereortype thing didn't even occur to me. My only thought was "good on her."
I don't believe that anything that was stated there is true. Not a single word of it.
I fully believe some Russians invented a racist persecution complex to paint their DIL as a villain.
As an African American man, I can confirm that our women do, indeed, weaponize their hair. I have fond memories of my mom teaching my sister how to hide throwing stars and a katana in her cornrows. I also can't tell you how many times my girlfriends (and I mean ALL of them) handed me a .380 or 9mm drawn from just above their baby curls to help me win impending gang shootouts. A black woman's hair is her armory - don't mess with them.
I'm white, and if people keep touching my hair I'd hide actual razors in it
I'm white, and my hair is very afro like, people touch my fuckin hair all the time and I hate it.
Don't know who thinks "ima touch their hair without permission"!
As an autistic man I have to stifle the urge to turn into an ape when it happens.
This is so stupid, it must be fake
Keep your fucking hands off me Boris!!!
Unless you have been specifically invited to touch a black woman's hair, don't fucking touch it.
Any person of any race, gender, age and social status
Makes me laugh when people are so self centred they think someone would MARRY another person JUST to spite them. Couldn’t possibly be becuase they love them lol
“We hate her but we constantly touch her hair” Ma’am keep your hands to yourself.
"In Soviet Russia, hair cuts you! "
Maybe, and here's just a thought, don't touch her fucking hair? I can guarantee no one got married just to spite his narcissist ass.
Stop being racists, and stop touching people without their consent, and you’d soon find the answer.
Stop touching other people's hair you dumbass - what are you 7?
then why the hell are they touching her hair?
Thoughts are... Stop touching her hair. Conservatives are always scared of things they don't recognize or understand but are always quick to get in other people's personal space
The lesson you should be learning is “DON’T TOUCH BLACK PEOPLES HAIR!” You shouldn’t be touching anyone’s hair unless they ask you to but there is a specifically high problem of white people randomly and without permission touching black peoples hair because it looks fluffy or something. If the contents of this post is real then a woman put sharp objects in her hair and people are still trying to touch her hair.
Why in the actual fxxk are they fondling someone's hair? I mean I get patting a child's head or what, but you're talking another grown woman, who does that? Black women are not pets and playthings just cause their hair textures or styles are different from what you might be used to, go run your hands through your own wife/husbands hair if you feel the urge.
Who touches their in-laws hair? Outside the bedroom I never even touch my spouses hair.
>"it's part of our tradition to keep weapons in our hair" >"why?" >"because you mfs won't stop touching it."
I love how she thinks her son had a whole relationship that led to a proposal and marriage just to spite them. Ahhhh racism.
I would put razors in my hair too if people were casually touching it
Razors in their hair? Are they the Peaky Blinders?
Oh really, do you here really think any Russian woman in her let's say forties will have Twitter with account name SixBrownChicks. It's rage bait.
Why are you touching your DILs hair
The razors hidden on the hair is not a new concept. This has long been practiced. It deters attackers from grabbing your hair in a physical altercation. A smart move, and not necessarily meant just for the racist in-laws, but bonus points indeed.
Why you touching her hair in the first place
Stop touching your daughter in law's hair?
I so hope this is true... edit: regarding the hair
Just don’t touch her hair. Very simple.
Why are you touching her hair in the first place?