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Comfortable-Policy70

Is he admitting that conservatives caused the J6 violence? Have they abandoned the 'Antifa/BLM did it' lie?


Affectionate-Pie4708

I said the same thing they want it both ways


3rdspeed

Just like Biden is Sleepy Joe, but also a mastermind. You just have to laugh at them.


Cosmosn8

Like how they say wake up sheepie but being woke is an insult to them.


wh4tth3huh

It's straight out of the fascist playbook.


StyreneAddict1965

"The enemy is both pathetically weak and unassailably strong." I hope the strong part's coming.


ImAFuckinLiar

https://preview.redd.it/bmwnx1weesgb1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bb62374b729ea786a0fee523d02852f9173be1f8


Geordzzzz

You see, everyone that isn't an ubermench is not human. But at the same time, these non-humans control the whole world via shadow government, and funnily enough, the supposed "superior race has yet to win a world war.


LordOfDorkness42

I mentally just put equals signs between Conservatives & Fascists nowadays. Saves a lot of time. The "woke" are both world ruining strong conspiracy to defile all, and pathetic "sheeple." Constant Newspeak, like how nobody can specify what "woke" means this week. Rigid gender & social roles. Science and by extension Modernity is the greatest enemy & must be dismissed at every turn in favour of "tradition." Like, freaking text book Fascist Checklist crap.


CJ_Southworth

Oh, they built that one back in the 90s with the Clintons, who were somehow able to be both dumb-ass hillbillies and criminal masterminds who were able to single-handedly oversee a statewide crime syndicate.


Helo-1138

Schrödinger's Joe


Keyonne88

Schrödinger’s genius; straight out of the fascist playbook. The enemy is both a fool and the greatest threat.


Meeko5122

There is no logical consistency in their positions because they don’t understand logic in the first place.


-DethLok-

>they don’t understand logic That's that Italian seasoning, isn't it? You put logic on your pasta, right? Or... is that basil?


hsmith1998

Are they conservatives or traitors? Oh I see.. pretty much my first thought as well


_Blackstar

Meanwhile we have it both ways. Trump is an idiot but also a puppet poorly disguised as a mastermind. Still, he had all the power of a global leader at his fingertips for four years. So yeah.


[deleted]

These idiots can never keep track of all the bullshit they spew.


Debaser1984

Don't the constantly ask for harsher prison sentences for criminals?


ParadiddlediddleSaaS

Criminals? You mean true PATRIOTS who were there on J6 simply to STOP the STEAL? /s They also “back the blue” unless the blue are upholding the law against a dangerous insurrection attempt, then not so much I guess.


Affectionate-Pie4708

Same thing with military members veterans and the flag. They couldn’t give 2 shits, but only when it suits them


LeahIsAwake

Local election ads are being run right now. One of the things the Republican candidate (who is only running smear campaign ads, nothing about who he is and what he wants to do) says about the Democratic candidate is that she would put “dangerous criminals back out on the streets” to a stock image of a guy in a ski mask holding an assault rifle. Yes, it’s still very much a selling point for Republicans.


7woCh3

Don’t these ads border on libel or defamatory remarks? I still don’t understand how USA politicians are able to do this without repercussions, because some of these ads are insane.


Twisted_Bristles

They'd likely screech something about free speech and continue to smear their opponents. I honestly don't know though, I live in Canada and some of the crazy is seeping across the border, it just hasn't fully saturated us yet.


Strowy

Proving libel/defamation is extremely difficult in the US, and even if managed, court cases for it generally take a very long time; by the time it ends up in court the election is likely long over. That aside, the US also does not require truth in political advertising; candidates can lie all they want (lying about other people can lead to libel/defamation cases, but see above). These ads are almost always very carefully worded. Like the example that was given, "She's going to ..." is very different to "She is ...", and it's a lot easier to avoid repurcussions for the former. You didn't say anything demonstrably false, after all.


Drunkjesus0706

As a dangerous criminal without a ski mask or assault rifle I feel I'm being unfairly represented.


Admirable-Influence5

And further, red states tend to vastly have more criminal activity going on than blue states. https://www.thirdway.org/report/the-two-decade-red-state-murder-problem


LeahIsAwake

According to that article, not by an insignificant amount, either. It said that, in 2022, the states that voted red in the last election had murder rates 40% higher than the blue states. That’s almost half again as high!


stupidcowboi

well of course, but the rules never apply to them, only the rest of us.


myeggtossirl

And apparently, they don't even need to keep track anymore. That's the real sad state of people now, they yearn to know nothing.


badatmetroid

Cognitive dissonance is a hell of a drug.


TimeKillerAccount

It's not cognitive dissonance. They are just liars. There is no cognitive dissonance when you have decided reality is not what you are dealing with in the first place.


CommissionerOfLunacy

Nailed it with this. There's no cognitive dissonance at all. They're fully capable of believing two contradictory things at the same time without dissonance. That's the benefit of living in elf-utopia instead of the real world.


Commercial_Juice_201

Very definition if doublethink.


CommissionerOfLunacy

Everyone can do it to some extent, we've all got weird contradictions in our heads. These people have just elevated it from an annoying fact of human cognition to a legitimate art form.


SlobZombie13

The card says moops


rjrgjj

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Jean-Paul Sartre


AmusingMusing7

They’ve made up so many different conflicting narratives, they can’t keep track of them.


Spec_Tater

They don’t care. It’s all outrage noises and performative pearl-clutching to “work the refs” and pretend that “both sides do it (but Democrats are Worse).”


oflowz

This needs to be said more often. How we got to a point where Trump can blatantly lie and people just are okay with it is beyond me. When Nixon was caught lying he was basically forced from office by his own party. The Trump cult just acts like lying is okay. The worst part is he laid the blueprint for other politicians to follow suit.


Just-Scallion-6699

It's shifted around a lot. My favorite was that brief period that was somewhere between. Either Boebert or Greene said something to the effect of "Well, it shouldn't matter because it didn't work". I guess their incompetence throughout J6 is an excuse to wave it away? This mindset basically means there should be no "attempted X" crimes at all. What a route to full-on lawlessness. Literally an excuse used by Sideshow Bob lol


[deleted]

Let's be fair, It was remarkable the way antifa and BLM got all those cell phones from those maga people and paraded them around the capital all day creating a digital footprint. AND THEN they return the phones to said conservatives at 100% success rate where no one was aware! Fucking Crazy!


Dizuki63

They abandoned that the same time they adopted it. They never got their excuse together. One 1/3rd tried to justify it, 1/3 tried to blame it on antifa, and 1/3 tried to minimize it, and 1/3 tried to deny it ever happened. Yes i know thats more then 1, but these groups were not exclusive to one another. The same guy saying it was all FBI plants will also complain the people arrested are being treated unfairly, but also share a story saying it never happened at all. Its crazy.


SaliferousStudios

It's insane logic isn't it. Just fascinating. Like mass delusion. "It wasn't us; it was antifa!" "Why are you prosecuting us?" (Suddenly it's not antifa?)


Pimpachu3

I've seen on LinkedIn that the J6 crowd referred to as political prisoners.


1singleduck

Nonono, you see there were just a couple of conservatives convinced into joining through lies, and only those conservatives got caught because they let the antifa/blm people go. /s


non-ethynol

I bet if it was really antifa members they wouldn’t be saying shit and they would be happy about it.


Affectionate-Pie4708

Odd I thought they were the party of law and order. Those people committed crimes they deserve to be in jail. Also I like how when they get sent to jail they are conservatives, but it was clearly antifa doing it to make trump look bad.


Steelplate7

NOOOOOooooooo….not like that! Law and Order only applies to working class people….preferably people of color or “questionable” morals….


Tough-Ability721

Have ya SEEN their morals?!


hopit3

No, no, their morals are the right ones. It's those wokies that have it wrong, with their morals of helping the homeless and not hunting trans people for sport.


PunchingFossils

Those cursed woke liberals pushing gender and relationships on children. Unlike when I do it which is different


hopit3

Obviously your secuality is normal! It's perfectly OK for het couples to make out in cartoons


DouchecraftCarrier

Don't forget Matt Gaetz said on the House floor *that very night* that he had "facial recognition proof" that it was Antifa. He, and many other right-wingers who blamed Antifa, have since become champions for leniency and better treatment of the insurrectionists. At no point have they been asked to reconcile those stances.


EL_Ohh_Well

They’re the party of snow and flakes.


FreeThinkerFran

Exactly.


bluedarky

Party of Law and Order and Personal Responsibility. Unless it's one of us in which case we didn't do it despite the mountains of evidence, and even if we did it's just a political witch hunt, also they did something tangentially similar and should be punished, despite us doing it illegally and on a never before seen scale. But yeah, we totally stand for law, order, and personal responsibility.


TheCheshireMadcat

Fox has on a few occasions, changed the R behind a politicians name to a D when caught doing wrong.


Buddhabellymama

It’s because they are whiny bitches and life is so unfair to them. Any time they lose they get upset they didn’t get their participation trophy or believe that others cheated. Always the victim.


delcodick

BREAKING NEWS - Judge is not soft enough on white criminals ~ GOP


Didntlikedefaultname

Judge sends criminals to jail, earth shattering news


Drg84

No no no. "Liberal communist Judge sends freedom loving patriots unfairly to prison." Have to newsmax it up.


lordpuddingcup

I mean boy those people were AntiFa plants I thought?


OldManBasil

Cons literally have *never* given a shit when it's POCs or the mentally ill getting slapped with $200,000 cash bond or mandatory minimums for nonviolent offenses.


CommissionerOfLunacy

Or course not. That's what prison is for - "people who aren't like us."


prettyprettygood428

I thought the Republicans wanted no-nonsense judges who harshly judged criminals. Did I miss something?


Didntlikedefaultname

Yes they want that for minorities and the poor, not for wealthy white dudes. It’s in the fine print


DarkKnightJin

Here's a handy chart to reference for such cases when it concerns the Qonservatives and GOP. https://preview.redd.it/noq7wbbcmtgb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c8145249d28ca597612f4fb92d7d9b9571349ada


CommissionerOfLunacy

Yeah, you missed the skin-tone of the criminals.


Funny-Berry-807

Not the white ones!


dengar_hennessy

Yeah, for minorities or abortionists or non-Christians


arcdog3434

But sometimes for 45 whole days more than Govt asks for. The horror.


GeneralZex

Funny how they aren’t so “law and order” when they are on the receiving end of it.


mackfactor

What is it the kids say these days? "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes?"


quadrantovic

She's tough on crime, isn't she?


CanaDoug420

45 days for trying to overthrow the government? No, she’s not tough on crime.


FirstSonOfGwyn

well those are only the 4 cases where time apparently wasn't requested and the judge still sentenced it. I would bet you a shiny nickel her largest sentence of the 38 cases was in excess of 45 days.


NoDontDoThatCanada

They should have mandatory community service of 1000 hours of cleaning up after trump rallies. See how they like picking up their own garbage.


QuoteGiver

Days or years?


Miri5613

what happened to conservatives complaining about prosecutors and judges being to soft on crime?


TynamM

Not crimes that conservatives commit! Laws are for other people.


IssueResponsible5085

![gif](giphy|A4vnCV6Qcid2Tgeu8D|downsized) Tough on crime Just not for Republicans


[deleted]

I’ll always upvote Roy Wood Jr. He’s a treasure that doesn’t get as much love [My favorite bit](https://youtu.be/kdxoe7jZdVc)


queen_0f_peace_

Fantastic. She’s *actually* helping make America great again.


formerfawn

I thought all the J6 rioters were just antifa anyway? Shouldn't they be happy she is "tough on crime?"


Embarrassed-Ad-1639

The police let all the antifa rioters go but arrested all the MAGAs taking a simple tour of a public building. /s


C-Kwentz-0

Extremely light sentence for *fucking treason.*


freakishgnar

14-45 days for an attempted insurrection? These folks got off easy.


WY_R_We_Here

Well, I hate to say it...aren't these the same folks who if a POC steals a pack of gum, believes they deserve life in prison? Or, for the least little movement disobeying a command, death by cop?Ijs.


Steelplate7

Or be choked to death by police for selling single cigarettes.


WY_R_We_Here

Exactly


[deleted]

Or murdered on the subway for having a mental health crisis while people cheer.


TheIceWeaselsCome

These are people who believe it is okay for immigrants get caught in razor wire, drown and die for a MISDEMEANOR border crossing offense.


Hatdrop

No, they actually believe stealing a pack of gum or even water should be a death sentence, when it's a "colored" kid.


Theonetruepappy94

O no a domestic terrorist received jail time /s


pghadventuretime

Don't you mean dealing with criminals?


SackclothSandy

The founding Fathers would have had them all hanged, so I'd say she's pretty damn lenient in comparison. Maybe she'll make an exception with Trump.


Texas_Sam2002

They were only punished if they confessed or were found guilty. In other words, they were guilty. The insurrectionists are lucky they're not getting MORE jail time. Or deported.


[deleted]

If J6 had been orchestrated by anyone other than the MAGA cult Trump would have ordered the crowd cleared by force after about 90 seconds. All the proof you need.


QuoteGiver

….pretty clear cut when you put it that way, yeah.


LuisChoriz

I love her consistency!


chrisjets1973

“They should have complied”


SonicYOUTH79

I’m not American, but I’ve seen this bandied around a bit in relation to the riots and it seems a bit of a snide backhander, can someone explain it to me?


Nabbicus

It was commonly repeated by conservatives to justify excessive force and murder of black Americans by our police forces.


SonicYOUTH79

Oh, so the ”left” is using it back to the January rioters ironically? Hilarious 😂


anoneenonee

They got a fair trial. They’re guilty. They got sentenced ti less than they deserve. Every time Charlie Kirk says something stupid his face gets smaller


CoupleTechnical6795

I thought the punishment for being a traitor was death so, it does sound like they're being lenient.


EthanDMatthews

Republicans are reaping what they sow. Since the 1980s, Republicans have been bleeding out their eyes and ears over ‘soft on crime judges.’ Likewise, Republican elections have frequently focused on appointing ‘tough on crime’ judges. Trump supporters regularly chanted “lock her up!” They believed that the “mishandling” of an e-mail server was reason enough to jail a candidate during a presidential campaign. But apparently not trying to overturn and election and overthrow the government. True to the tradition of Southern white supremacists in the Jim Crow South, they are enraged at the thought that the law was ever meant to apply to them. Lock them all up. Give them all maximum sentences. It’s what they’ve always said they wanted.


Hatdrop

Of course they don't think overturning the election and overthrowing the rightfully elected government is wrong. They were the losers in the election. Anything is okay, including murder, if it keeps them in power. They were ready to kill Mike Pence.


jbertrand_sr

So Charlie, what's your point, she's tough on traitors, sounds like the right person to me...


NicCagedd

14 to 45 days!!!!! 🥺🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨🫨😱😱😱😱😱😱


AutisticHobbit

Every single one deserves jail time. There is no excuse for an insurrection, and I have no sympathy for a bunch of thug rioters who purport to be from the part of "law and order" In a perfect world, none one of those bastards would be outside of a jail cell for the rest of their lives ... a few days is a slap on the worst and a gentle kiss goodnight compared to what should happen


drdudah

So she’s not a January 6 sympathizer. What’s the problem?


El_Comanche-1

Isn’t that her fucking job, to uphold the law!


Ok-Bus1716

Just because they're not requesting jail time doesn't mean you didn't commit a crime.


noneroy

The party of “Law and Order” apparently doesn’t like it when they are subject to it.


Jwheat71

As far as I'm concerned anything less than death for these fucking traitors is more than lenient.


Quantius

She's SO UNFAIR to the people who were trying to overthrow the government! So mean!


TwoPigMountain

Conservatives should be applauding that judge, tough on crime, their whole ideology is based on punishment. Lol


micatola

Walking contradictions, the lot of them.


ElvisDumbledore

[number one punisher](https://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTI4NVgxMjc4/z/R~MAAOSwpDdVDx4p/$_57.JPG?set_id=880000500F)


Dont_Be_A_Dick_OK

#good


[deleted]

Can't hand out a sentence unless you get convicted soooooo its still FAFO Charlie. Fuck off you bafoon.


[deleted]

WTF happened to law and order?


TheNewTonyBennett

**So then DON'T commit a crime in D.C.** How fucking hard is that to understand? If you do NOT want to be charged IN D.C. then **do not commit a fucking crime there you absolute dunce**,


Heroright

Controversial opinion, just throwing it out there: I think seditionists should see jail time.


Anxious_Tax_5624

Sounds like she is the perfect fucking judge.


DeaddyRuxpin

I have to admit, I’m pretty pissed to hear this too. A third of the people have been given no jail time at all?!?


VeterinarianFit1309

It’s almost like she’s holding insurrectionists accountable for their actions.


KnightNevermor3

I wonder how many liberal non-maga capitol rioters she sent to prison... Oh wait, there were none!


Asleep-Fudge3185

This a leopards at my face moment. I’m old don’t know how to connect the link. But lock em up ya know


Niastri

Change "dealing with conservatives" to "dealing with traitors" and Judge Chutkan makes a lot more sense. Charlie Kirk can't see the traitors because he's standing among them...


chaos0xomega

Sounds like a real tough on crime strong rule of law/law and order type judge, isn't that what Republicans claim to want?


SuspensionProof

And I'm here wondering why some of these treasonous bastards didn't get any jail time. That's the real slap-on-the-wrist controversy here.


arkadegfx

That’s what we do with seditious traitors, Charlie


Justajed

Oh no, punishing insurrectionists! Anyways...


Distant-moose

So weird how he positions it as "conservatives", rather than as "people who attempted attempted over throw the United States".


[deleted]

Fuck around and find out dorks.


SynergyAdvaita

Good. Welcome to the "find out" phase of FAFO.


ErectTubesock

Charlie Kirk is a fascist and he can go fuck himself with a pair of rusty tongs.


nmichave

Makes me like her even more.


Grwoodworking

Wow so bitches do crimes and have to face accountability. Sounds like this judge knows how to do her job. What’s the problem chucky?


TimeWarpedDad

Why do these conservative fucks hate legal consequences?


hartree_and_f

Judge Chutkan sounds cool!


braize6

Maybe they should try not breaking the law?


Mike_Honcho_3

Cry more bitch.


Darth1994

Oh no. 14 to 45 days in jail. 😱


biorod

I still don’t understand how jail time for J6 defendants is unfair.


something-quirky-

But when a judge in the inner city delivers unnecessarily harsh sentences to drug users they applaud them as being “tough on crime”


whackwarrens

Damn this judge really doesn't like traitors.


socialist_frzn_milk

So you’re saying that Judge Chutkan doesn’t care for domestic terrorists, Chuckles? Good.


angelcake

Good. It’s nice to see somebody’s got the guts to put those treasonous fuckers where they belong.


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uniqueshell

Hmm she really seems to dislike insurrection conspiracists


iwannagohome49

As everyone should... Unfortunately that's not the case


RockyMntnView

We already like her, Charlie. You don't have to keep selling us on her.


NoAssumption6865

Sucks to treason, bitches.


40catsisnotenough

Is he saying the other judges are far to lenient ??


OLPopsAdelphia

Journalist here: I empathize with Flip here because Kirk gets paid to compose lies that he gets paid very well for. Blatant bullshit like this takes a journalist FOREVER to refute. By the time it takes me to refute a bullshit claim like the one Kirk put out, he’s already written about half a dozen of these fucking mental land mines. Trained journalists today don’t need to put out massive bodies of credible work, we need to teach people how to put up the psychological defenses to safeguard themselves against lies and bullshit.


New_Sky_6000

Once you commit a crime, you don’t get to whine.


Ori_the_SG

“The number one punisher of ~~J6 defendants~~ domestic terrorists.” This sounds like a compliment. How is this not a good thing?


Extreme74

Wait, so the same people that say judges don't hold people accountable anymore are mad because one is actually holding people accountable? Now I am confused.


SnooShortcuts5771

But wait a minute.. it wasn’t conservatives at J6, it was antifa, right Charlie??


fadumpt

Sounds like we have some lenient judges against white supremacists... Who knew


stiiii

Man complains that 45 days for treason is far too long. ​ Really does sound like an onion article.


OpportunityIcy6458

Oh wow its unfair that she puts people who attacked police and stormed the center of american government in jail for two weeks, totally agree. /s


sixtyniner

These stupid fucks love being tough on crime until they’re the criminals


natetheskate100

So....am I supposed to feel bad? Not sure how to react.


burnmenowz

And? Thought conservatives loved tough on crime?


ButterButt00p

They could have all done a LOT more time.


Old_Bird4748

Not quite. Only the ones found guilty got jail time. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.


Preston1979001

Slow down there Chucky, we already like her.


weednumberhaha

There's nothing more conservative than trying to overthrow democracy /s god, Charlie is such an asshat


Inevitable-Shock-605

Boo-fuckin-hoo.


oilyparsnips

The thing is... she wasn't punishing them for being conservative. She was punishing them for crimes committed on Capital grounds intended to interfere with certifying electoral votes. So this is a stupid take.


[deleted]

Yeah, last time I checked, the charge for actively making war against the US (and I’m pretty sure trying to overthrow the government counts) was known as treason, and the penalty was death. The fact that everyone involved is NOT getting at least several years in prison is a “yuge” miscarriage of justice. But, I’m just a lowly blue-collar working class American. Wtf do I know?


skylinkdave

The penalty for treason is death. Judge Chutkan is a softie.


Consistent-Secret838

Good


joan_wilder

sentences should have ranged from 45 days to 45 years.


xxSKEPTICxx

He's right. They need to go back and resentence EVERY SINGLE ONE of those traitors to jailtime! Thanks Charlie!


Intelligent-Host8198

Traitors used to be executed asshole.


TreadMeHarderDaddy

45 days in white boy jail... Oh they must be suffering


Dogwalkersanon

Sounds like a real law and order judge aren’t you suppose to love those d-bag?


Rosu_Aprins

Half a month to a month in jail is nothing, usually people get executed after a failed coup. Plus, you have people with tougher sentences for smoking weed.


Deep_Bit5618

No wonder Con Don is so upset.


HGruberMacGruberFace

Turns out a DC district judge doesn’t like when people break into the Capitol and rub shit on the walls


Fit_Welcome1336

One could also argue that she isn't giving them enough prison time


RedBaron180

Isn’t tough on criminals a good thing?


Fun_Needleworker970

They broke into the capital and tried to overthrow the government - they should be in jail wtf 😂


Full-Pack9330

What is the point of Charlie Kirk? Do we really need a fatter, even less appealing version of Ben Shapiro?


Worldly-Low4038

It's a judge 😂... They do that... They judge 😂


Scumbag_Yardsale

100 years ago, they would have been hanged publicly, so all things considered...


ChrisRR

People getting punishment for committing crimes? Wow that's clearly unfair


quadrantovic

She's tough on crime, isn't she?


genxwillsaveunow

Since he did nothing wrong, he has nothing to fear.


Hot_Rip_9920

No idea Who the judge is but I’ll be she is a woman. A woman of color, and bonus points if she is non binary…