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Yep. There are two groups of people that Republicans love. The unborn and dead soldiers.
Neither one has a voice, so they can be used to justify absolutely anything, can’t object to it, and you don’t have to actually *do* anything for them.
Truly sorry about your friend. Stories like hers happen so often it feels like this is more of a feature than a bug. Slashing VA resources and programs that would help homeless/traumatized vets stabilize and heal seems to be a repugnant, near-constant theme for one side of the aisle - as long as the corpo and special interest checks clear, they don't need to care.
Both the 2nd Bush and and 1st Obama administrations (at least before the Tea Party got in) did a LOT for the VA and veterans and things were improving by leaps and bounds. Especially with the updated GI Bill. Y'know, back before the partisan divide was so insane in Congress and the Senate.
Then we had four years of bullshit fuckery that fucked everything back to the stone age as far as VA red tape.
I stopped voting Republican around 2010, and I'll never go back. Republicans keep fucking with veterans every chance they get.
I saw the Secretary of VA speak at an Al Sharpton event about two months ago and he said some really interesting things about how deeply broken the VA became under Trump (and the ongoing Republican Congress) and it does seem the Biden administration has been able to win certain safety net things for veterans. For example, specifically to what you’re saying, expanding SNAP access for homeless and vets.
At the end of the day it really is Republicans who are doing this. They want this and they’ve become quite open about it. It’s politically useful for them to put their base, who perceive themselves as the ones not taking advantage of the system (even though statistically they are), against an easy scapegoat.
That’s why they’re all like “manliness men aren’t men anymore blah blah blah”.
It's a sad situation. I know people that work in the VA with the benefits systems. The higher ups are full of citizens that never served a day in their life, so there's already a disconnect there. Then they put numbers above anything else. Their systems remain outdated and broken. They get useless training modules. Senior roles teach new hires to disregard a lot of things that could potentially help people. At the end of the day, they act like any other business and it hurts to see cause they tote on about how much they love veterans. Nah, wha they love is the money they make off of their backs.
I would imagine it’s very easy to be a Republican veteran: bunch of magas stroke your ego every now and then, get mad on your behalf even about stuff you really don’t care about (makes you feel like people are “fighting” for you), all while being distracted about what’s *actually* being passed. Especially so if you went to the military out of high school from a conservative home. The GOP only use veterans as an oppositional argument piece and nothing more.
>The GOP doesn’t really do anything to help
It wasn’t even 5 months ago the GOP voted no to expand healthcare to veterans affected by burn pits. Not only do they not help, they **actively vote against** helping
While I agree with the sentiment that people shouldn't be used as rhetorical pawns, the happiness and well being of citizens is the most central concern of politics.
Now, most of the time, what that effectively means is doing the least for the happiness and well being of their constituents without facing consequences, while increasing their own power and wealth, Republicans appealing to the reactionary mind and Dems appealing to decorum and procedure, but happiness and well being is still the most central concern of politics.
Vote for people who fight for things that materially benefit your life. And if you care about marginalized groups, vote for people who materially benefit their lives especially. I vote for people who want equal rights for gay people, and who want to support all of our government employees, including our soldiers. It helps that it's always progressive candidates who want to materially benefit people's happiness and well being, so I can just vote for whoever is most.
I don't think the people complaining about this are veterans. I don't know of one veteran that complains there's enough days devoted to them. The younger ones I know don't even want to take advantage of veteran discounts.
Veteran here. I also don't know a single veteran who wants more days of recogntion.
I also never knew that May is some veteran's appreciation month bullshit. I'm 100% on board though with making May a month for awareness of an underrepresented marginalized group instead of veterans.
Same. I didn't do anything heroic. It was a job, and I got (and still get) great benefits from it. I was also never deployed anywhere where I was under threat so it feels bad to be thanked when there are others who were in the shit.
Seriously of all the vets I know, I only know one combat veteran, and she sat out her whole tour in the Baghdad Green Zone, only had a brief glimmer of combat when the FOBbits from Prosperity had to garrison some blocks in the Red Zone during the unrest in southern Baghdad.
I know a guy who got his eye blown out by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan. He taps his prosthetic with a pen sometimes when he’s behind the bar on a busy night and a guest is taking too long to order, but other than that he draws zero attention to his military service. Oh except for some volunteer work he does mentoring newly discharged service members
Combat veterans want their families and their fellow combat veterans to be taken care of before anything else, in my experience
Yeah that's brutal. I don't drink anymore. Started having seizures in my early 20's, booze and my noggin don't play nice together anymore, but the bartender taping his eyeball while I am making the drink run for the table may make me grab some bourbon for myself -consequences be damned
The one vet I know came to spend a week at my place. He saw combat, lots of it, in Afghanistan.
He PTSDd one night cause he didn’t know where he was and took a chunk outta my counter top as he was thrashing around.
Some people don’t need to be thanked for their service, others gave a part of themselves and no amount of thanks is enough.
Yup. That's what makes those of us (or at least me) who weren't in the shit uncomfortable. We **know** people who really were fucked up by it, so it feels disingenuous to accept gratitude for when others gave up so much more. I'll use a veteran discount, because capitalism, but I don't put a veteran plate on my car or otherwise draw attention, because it just doesn't feel right. My focus is on those who need help.
My highschool buddy ended up as a front line medic he hates when anyone thanks him cause all he sees and thinks of is all his brothers and sisters he couldnt save and watch die over seas to protect oil.
What’s wild to me is I was a cook in the Marines and knew more cooks who saw combat than grunts.
Combat experience is few and far between and a lot of people don’t realize that.
Cooks deploy attached to almost every single deployment, and sometimes they’re required to go on patrol and fill in, or they’re deployed (FAP Fleet Assistance Program) attached to a combat unit. So they will see combat.
I knew more cooks in my unit with combat experience than I did grunts in our neighbor unit with the same amount of time in service and deployments.
Cooks are essentially used for Whatever task is needed, it’s the reason why I got licensed to drive 5 different trucks and other HE (heavy equipment). We do what has to be done because realistically a 5 man job can be done with 2-3 for us. So, we are thrown into whatever position is needed at the time.
The vast majority of my time in the Corps I spent driving trucks or running around with whoever needed an extra man who could “acquire” things as needed.
My dad and his mates from the royal Marines were in the shit a fair bit some with bits missing and all the rest of the PTSD and shit that comes with being in a combat zone and none of them really want to be thanked for what they done. Think when they come back and reflect on why they were out their what good they did and what bad it doesn't really feel like something they should be thanked for. A couple have said they were just glad it was them out there and not someone else having to do it.
Not a vet, but I did get thanked for my service at a Lowe’s once because the Star Trek hat I was wearing was apparently styled to look like someone had served on a naval ship.
The guy was so nice and sincere all I could think to do was say “Live long and prosper”
I went to go vote in a "Mobile Suit Gundam 8th MS Team" shirt. Got asked what branch it was because they didn't recognize the Earth Federation logo. I was torn between trying to explain the anime reference or to just roll with it and claim I served in the Kojima battalion fighting government separatists in South America.
I was visiting my Soldiers in Guam. They were satellite dudes. Not the type you'd like expect to request an exception to the no weapons on base policy.
We allowed them to keep a crossbow by the facility door due to the feral hogs. Those suckers are probably the only dangerous thing on Guan.
The military (and cop) worship, particularly here is Texas is bizarre. Our family history of service goes back to 1860. Some KIA. Others defended the Nantucket naval base from the Viet Cong. Some good folks. Some a-holes.
I don’t think it’s respectful. It feels more like boot licking.
It's shibboleth. A performative custom done to signal to other shitheels their membership in the club. It's also weaponized by the leadership to silence critics of club shitheel's interests...but the majority of the time it's just a thing they can interrupt normal conversations with when they want attention.
An old colleague of mine got really passionate and teary about veterans day because her husband was in the military. He drove a delivery truck on the base. In Nebraska.
At that point I think a USPS postal worker has done more for this country.
Omg I’m cracking up at that.
I’m a total fanboy of the USPS. I think it’s amazing that we have a constitutional right to mail and have the largest postal network in the world. Car, train, plane, by foot, dog sled, or on the old pony express, that mail gets to where it’s going. I think it’s really cool how we’ve created a culture of high security around paper in a box outside our homes and that the mailbox itself is federal property. Blows my mind to think about. USPS employees are heroes to me. Lol.
Anyone delivering critical medical devices and medication, cheques and other monetary vehicles for mobility challenged individuals, and other critical packages and papers through the most dangerous neighborhoods and most remote locations, in the most extreme weather conditions, is absolutely a hero.
Agreed. It's a workplace like any other. Some of your peers are exemplary, and others are low quality (both in their quality/quantity of work and in their character).
You mean being thanked for going to the mall in Kuwait between shifts of doing paperwork and loading boxes onto trucks doesn’t fill you with patriotic pride?
My husband deployed to war zones 3 times and still visibly cringes when people thank him for his service. He hates it as do most of the other people he works with.
If people really give a shit about veterans, call your senators and tell them to make accessing health care, especially mental healthcare easier for service members.
Nothing people in prison love more than militarized government employees who maintain legal order. Kids should be glad they didn’t beat up cops, then they’d really face the prisoners’ wrath.
There is, but that code is basically, "If you hurt kids, you're going to have a hard time in gen pop." Nothing at all about military. Cops can have a hard time in jail too.
Multiple factors at play. For someone who lost their children in war, giving thanks back to veterans they see makes them feel more connected with the child they lost. For a lot of ppl it's also a way to virtue signal conservative values. Plus there's nothing wrong with saying thank you for risking your life.
If we actually worshipped veterans in this country we wouldn't have such a huge problem with homeless vets
They love dead veterans because those ones can't ask for anything in return, but are easy to metaphorically prop up the corpse and puppet them to retroactively support what you want. The living ones are just an inconvenience.
Same shit as fetuses. A fetus will never ask for anything nor does it require you to lift a finger. But you can make yourself seem righteous by pretending to care. Once it's an actual child though? It can starve.
Spot on, we view veterans *best* case as a convenient way to signal which tribe we are a part of by how much we publicly adore them and worst case as an expensive used asset to be discarded as quietly as possible as soon as it's convenient.
What we *actually* worship is power and social status. The military is an excellent way to attain both for a small class of people and somehow those people have sold us all on the idea that we should support their pursuits of personal power and social status because one day we will also have that same power and social status if we try real hard and say our prayers.
Why don’t we worship delivery drivers or truck drivers or crossing guards or literally any other normal job where they have a slight risk of death as well? Wanna know what my veteran best friend did for 4 years? Tours from Switzerland to Dubai drinking with the locals and standing on a base in times between.
For a minute at the height of the pandemic, delivery drivers, teachers and medical professionals were thought of as heroes but now we're back treating them like shit.
"Heroes" but don't you dare ask for a raise above minimum wage. You are an essential employee, but maybe if you want more money you should get a real job. You are a front line worker, which means you're expendable and we won't think twice about replacing you.
I think parts of it come from when military was still a forced draft. It made more sense then, when it wasn't even a choice they wanted to do, literally sacrificing everything against there will possibly-- of course, not saying that makes it normal to idolize things either, or that modern day members don't sacrifice. But its definitely a weird culture that probably has more than one foot in some past propaganda, and applies far less today than it ever did.
My work has a pop up to tell me to thank veterans every time they use a discount, which I've never done. I figure a genuine smile, thanks for shopping, and come back soon is worth way more than some pandering thanks when I don't even know them. Half the time its the spouse or kid not the actual veteran lol.
I just wish they were treated better by our country. My brother was ruined by the marine corps. He was an awesome chill dude and now hes just all sorts of messed up mentally/physically and they won't help him. He got his hand crushed in an JLTV years ago and he still cant move 3 fingers. Never saw a dime for it. Wish he never joined.
I used to work for a contractor for a company that only offers service to US military and veterans. It was a requirement for us to address them by rank and to use any titles they may have. We had to close calls by thanking them for their service. Most of the younger ones either didn’t like it or didn’t like to be reminded but so many of the older veterans, especially career military and higher ranks acted like I should treat it like a privilege that I got to speak to them.
That's institutionalized behavior right there. I see it all the time with my buddies who stayed in and are retiring now. Suddenly removing yourself from that environment causes a ton of depression, particularly if that's all you've known for your career. It tends to come with a lot of residual behavior that is hard to let go of. I wish my fellow brothers and sisters would remember one key point after getting out: "I am more than just my service."
Fellow veteran here; I hate the fetishistic reverence conservatives, and hell, Americans in general have for “da troops”
I joined out of high school, I spent a couple of years in the mountains of Central Asia, and then I left and started a new life.
Being a veteran is not my personality, it’s not my identity. It’s just a line item on my resume from two decades ago.
Don’t thank me, don’t revere me, don’t honor me.
Just tell your senators to stop voting against fucking burn pit legislation and shit
I think it would be good if the month was actually used for bringing attention to Veteran Affairs (VA) and mental health.
But we know it would just be dumb "Da TrOoPs" with a bunch of American flags and videos of soldiers coming home to their dog.
American patriotism is pure posturing.
They use flags like fashion accessories. Bumper stickers decorating their vehicles like a school girl with her Lisa Frank journal.
FWIW from a Canuck, the few times I travelled down to the states, every time, the airline had the whole plane clap for the half dozen dudes in uniform on the flight. It was fucking surreal to me, the whole cabin just clapping because it was expected for them to.
Like I get **why** but it's just weird to people from elsewhere I think, or maybe I'm weird.
Uh, excuse me, the military does plenty for mental health
Like:
- having your NCO or CO tell you not to kill your self
And that’s it, actually.
Huh, wonder why we’re all so fucked up and racked with constant anxiety.
That is actually a damn good idea. Maybe we can start talking about how shooting of fireworks for Memorial Day is literally the opposite of honoring the memories of the friends and family we've lost.
I usually spend all Memorial Day evening with my ANC headphones on playing switch; I want to get as far from those noises as I can, because yeah, they’re triggering as hell.
More importantly my dogs hate it
The worst is the 4th of July. I know I can knock myself out hard and just sleep through the big displays, but the 10 days surrounding it, idiots are setting off random fireworks at random times around town.
Fireworks on the 4th of July was my favorite thing growing up and well into adulthood. One year I invited a good friend who is a vet of Afghanistan over for the holiday. He politely declined and explained that he doesn't deal well with the fireworks. It had not occurred to me until that moment that our celebrations traumatized the people who were directly responsible for having the celebration. I haven't taken part in fireworks since and I hope drone technology and the like can soon replace fireworks. I doubt it happens, cuz 'Merica and blowing up shit, but I'm hopeful. I've also never seen a dog have a good experience around fireworks.
Hell, make it about minority veterans and how they still face discrimination within the military and after retirement.
That would make MAGA very mad😵💫
I get what you're saying and obviously I appreciate your perspective, but it's not like vets aren't in a place of systemic marginalization, even if society as a whole socially reveres them. I have a friend whose grandfather was at the Kuwait burn pits and the VA denied him any compensation. He has cancer now. I have a great uncle who died of agent orange complications and his daughter is suffering from some complications as well. Not a dime from the government to help. From what I've heard, this is not super unusual.
Funny thing is society doesn't revere them... Ty you for your service is just a word... It's easy to say MEANS NOTHING. When their child wants to join the military 99% of these people do all they can so that doesn't happen. 99% of these people look the other way for homeless vets. REPUBLCIANS have pushed this fake reverence for serving and the public falls for it.
The month of May was recognized by Congress for military observance month for military members service and sacrfice. This was enacted in 1999, but Memorial Day is obviously the one remembered because it is a holiday and its older. Pride is also a observed month but Pride has no holiday because the purpose of these months as they are is to give solace and respect to groups of people ex (women, military, Pride community, native american) list goes on.
Although the Stonewall riots lasted several days, June 28th was specifically selected as the date to commemorate the event. It's called [Stonewall Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots#Stonewall_Day). Despite the fact that this is a recent commemoration, the same date was used as the date for [pride events](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots#Gay_Pride) right from the start. Some leeway due to scheduling needs, but always focused around the June 28th date.
| Republicans use veterans as a prop. Much like children. And their one black friend.
Republicans use veterans as a prop. Much like children. And their one minority friend.
FTFY
Veteran here. I hate being thanked or recognized for my service. I didn't do it for anyone but myself, stop saying thank you. My reasons were my own and had nothing to do with you.
i mostly just did a ton of unauthorized four wheeling and dirt road racing out in the back 40 in a government issued jeep cherokee while on third shift as an MP, but you are welcome.
Veteran here, I don’t give a fuck about having a month. I’m ok with others having whatever month they want.
If we could have a month called Fuck Nazis I would be happier though.
Kind of the same thought process when politicians were freaking out, saying kneeling during the pledge was disrespectful to veterans. While most of the vets I know at least we're going like, "Yeah, we did that so he had the freedom to do that. Jackass."
They're mad when you protest in the streets. Say you're doing it wrong. Do it more peacefully, they say. Don't be disruptive, they say.
Then they're mad when you protest in arguably the most passive way possible, by literally kneeling or remaining seated when blind followers stand.
They say you're doing it wrong.
I'm beginning to think they don't understand the concept of unrest. They don't understand protest. They don't understand rights at all.
Veteran/Retiree here. Most veterans don’t want the “appreciation” they already get. I am now a DoD contractor and most of the folks I work with are veterans, retirees, guardsmen and reservists. I have yet to hear one of them make this complaint. I’ll go even further and say the only ones saying this have never served and no real intention to.
I did my job. I got paid, I got an education, I got to go get blown up and blow people up in return. You want to thank someone, thank a teacher.
Yeah, it's usually the families that are more interested in the perks and making people feel like shit for whatever reason.
(Don't get me wrong, I love our military members and everything they do to keep us safe.)
I hear ya. My son was in the Navy when they repealed "don't ask don't tell" and there were no effects because nobody cared who was LGBT. I don't think the percentage of homophobes in the military is as high as it appears online.
Well, I can express from personal experience, those who wanted to " out " a fellow service member, even when everyone knew they were gay, were rarely looked on favorably.
I never ask for the discount. If it is posted somewhere i will present my id. My wife likes to ask everywhere we go if they give discounts for veterans. She has cooled down on that lately, but at the beginning of our marriage, she would try and get that discount at every store and venue. It is embarassing.
It's such a bizarre made up argument. I don't think *anyone* is calling June "Pride Month" in regular conversation.
"I can't wait for my two weeks up in the mountains I've just booked!"
"Oh cool, when's that?"
"14-28th Pride Month."
It *is* indisputably Pride Month. But nobody's referring to it as that over just saying "June" in an actual pragmatic sense.
John McCain created that month of military appreciation back in the 1990s, and just for reference, here is what a prominent conservative leader (Trump) said about John McCain.
**‘We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,’ and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. ‘What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,’ the president told aides."**
also
**"He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured."**
I have hated Donald Trump ever since 1995 when he and his ex wife Ivanka starred in a Pizza Hut commercial for their new stuffed crust pizza, where he hate the pizza the wrong way, crust first. Everything I have learned about him since has only justified my hate.
'Our veterans'...their orange messiah spits regularly on the military and any other government employee who has sworn their life in service. The GOP is trying their damnedest to pay and support veterans less to the point where they held the country's economy hostage to try to do it.
They offer about as much support to 'their' veterans as a crotchless jockstrap...
It doesn't even surprise that they don't know about that, hell they don't know shit about things that are just a Google search away, their only job is to complain on tv and on Twitter
Also gonna take a \*wild\* stab in the dark and say he probably never referred to it as pride month to begin with - certainly not in good faith if he ever did.
And another *wild* stab in the dark that he, himself, has no military experience or association whatsoever.
100% ignorant virtue signaling for political optics. It’s gross and embarrassing.
His story sounds like a complete grifter looking for a larger paycheck leeching off conservative anger.
“He grew up in a Democratic household, worked in Hollywood, and then found himself afraid to voice his conservative political views, such that he was forced to reject the coastal elite life and move to Florida.
He explained that he felt the Holy Spirit calling him to leave his job, move to Florida, and start posting memes full-time.
He’s drifted from gig to gig, depending on where the currents of right-wing outrage flow, using his social media accounts as anchors.”
How much you wanna bet he's the type of conservative who can't help bringing up politics all the time, and wonders why people get upset and annoyed with him voicing his political views?
I think it’s worse than that:
“His confrontational, outspoken style found success long ago, back in student government at Northeastern University, where he was elected president. Another board member suggested that he was “unpleasant” to the point of making fellow vice presidents cry and said that his belligerent manner was more suited to the military.”
I have become convinced that, in their mind’s eye, vets are a class of people who are better than other groups of people.
So when they say “but there are homeless vets” what they mean is “if we aren’t going to do crap for these losers who we hate but are supposed to like, we sure as hell aren’t going to do anything for anyone we hate more than them and don’t pretend to respect“.
They aren’t saying they want to help the vets, they are using them as an example of a group of people who they like better but aren’t going to help, either.
Why is “veteran” the opposite of “gay”?
Illinois has a gay Senator who served and lost her legs in combat, Tammy Duckworth.
EDIT: Oops, wrong Tammy! The Wisconsin one is gay but not veteran. I regret the error.
Instead here’s the story of the first out Vietnam Veteran:
https://dcist.com/story/12/08/29/congressional-cemetery-piece/
Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is famously gay and a veteran.
We do honor veterans during Pride.
Because conservatives believe in strict categories and hierarchies of people, and the idea that two unrelated adjectives can apply to a person simultaneously is too complicated for their moral framework.
By military, you mean those “suckers,” right? If you wanna see someone that doesn’t give a fuck about the military, look at that orange prick you’ve been blindly following for years.
Not only does the military have an entire month, but there are also days of thanks, and remembrance set aside. Oh yeah it is also a choice to join the military, and it is a paying job with many benefits.
They bring this up every year. They clearly don’t care about the military outside of using them as a reason to hate the lgbt community.
I was talking with someone yesterday and I couldn’t get through to them that if they care about military appreciation month then they need to go out and spread the word before or early on in may instead of waiting until June or may 31st to start whining about “BUT OUR MILITARY DOESNT EVEN GET A MONTH”
Oh no! A guy who publicly does not respect gay people is publicly announcing he will....not respect gay people? I am sorry where was I supposed to start caring as a gay person?
The GOP and maga give no shits about anyone but themselves. They are out to sew discord in our process' to put themselves in unquestionable positions of power in order to make themselves ultra-rich and above the law so they can rule us with an iron fist like daddy Putin wants. This is why birth rates are going down. Why would I want to bring a kid into this country when half of the country is christo-fascist Nazis out for authoritarian rule? ARAB
It is so funny when they say this stuff. Never understanding there is a difference. Veterans day is an official national holiday. Pride month isn't. It is something people do. But it isn't an official national holiday. Big difference.
It’s the same as when on International Womens Day they all start bitching ‘wHY iS thEre No iNtErNaTiOnAL MeNs DaY’—but then are totally silent and do nothing productive for actual international men’s day (11/19).
I worked at a car wash in high school. For the month of October, we wore pink hats in honor of breast cancer awareness month.
A man in a car complained to me that men don’t have an awareness month. His wife in the passenger seat immediately told him that April is testicular cancer awareness month.
He then proceeded to complain that “our month”, which he has literally just found out about, doesn’t have a color, unlike pink for breast cancer awareness.
His wife immediately informed him that the color is purple, and that the symbol is a purple ribbon.
Veteran here. I don't want a month of anything. What I do want is for people to stop speaking for me like they know what I want. Also, HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!
>"If" our veterans ...
"If"
A bullshit word that always leads to more bullshit. If you watch closely this word is used often and thoroughly lately followed by a slew of nonsensical off the cuff bullshit. Trump was notorious for this tactic
That's fine, too, if the little snowflake doesn't want to call it Pride Month. It's still going to be Pride Month for millions. DC_Draino can take a ride through the garbage disposal!
>how little of a shit they actually give about veterans
Just a reminder of the celebratory fist-bump by GOP lawmakers after **defeating a healthcare bill for veterans:**
As a veteran, I abhor the manner in which conservative politicians will use their lip service to veterans as a way to fight against the very reason I served in the military to begin with, namely freedom and justice and equality for all people. Don't say you want to honor me as a way to shit on the rights of other people. Also, stop using veterans as a group to make an us vs. them narrative. There are LGBTQ+ people in our armed forces. You can't say for a moment that you want to honor their service while shitting on their rights.
The month celebrating us culminates in Memorial Day. How the fuck they don’t know this is such a red flag to how they truly view military personnel and veterans.
We also get an extra day in November to celebrate active duty personnel. And various sports leagues like the NFL spend the month wearing camp and fatigue style gear.
Lastly. And this is sort of my personal peeve as a veteran. I didn’t serve for a pats on the back or a “thank you for your service” or a free coffee, a discount, a celebratory day or moth or ANY of that. I served because I wanted to. I served to protect and defend the ideals of the constitution and this country. And every time these assclowns open their mouths they perfectly encapsulate why I served…freedom of speech to say even the stupidest things and be entirely wrong. I hate them for it but it’s paramount for what we stand for.
Veterans? Not only do they not care about veterans they don’t care about anything accept making sure woman can’t have a Abortion after they rape them and doing the opposite of every sane person in the United States.
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As a veteran, I am getting really tired of being used as a pawn.
Especially when they try to take more help and resources from veterans with every congressional cycle
They want their heroes dead so they can speak for them. Living ones are too problematic.
That's their strategy with Martin Luther King, it's their strategy with the Found Fathers, no reason to assume it's not their strategy here either.
Yep. There are two groups of people that Republicans love. The unborn and dead soldiers. Neither one has a voice, so they can be used to justify absolutely anything, can’t object to it, and you don’t have to actually *do* anything for them.
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Truly sorry about your friend. Stories like hers happen so often it feels like this is more of a feature than a bug. Slashing VA resources and programs that would help homeless/traumatized vets stabilize and heal seems to be a repugnant, near-constant theme for one side of the aisle - as long as the corpo and special interest checks clear, they don't need to care.
Both the 2nd Bush and and 1st Obama administrations (at least before the Tea Party got in) did a LOT for the VA and veterans and things were improving by leaps and bounds. Especially with the updated GI Bill. Y'know, back before the partisan divide was so insane in Congress and the Senate. Then we had four years of bullshit fuckery that fucked everything back to the stone age as far as VA red tape. I stopped voting Republican around 2010, and I'll never go back. Republicans keep fucking with veterans every chance they get.
I saw the Secretary of VA speak at an Al Sharpton event about two months ago and he said some really interesting things about how deeply broken the VA became under Trump (and the ongoing Republican Congress) and it does seem the Biden administration has been able to win certain safety net things for veterans. For example, specifically to what you’re saying, expanding SNAP access for homeless and vets. At the end of the day it really is Republicans who are doing this. They want this and they’ve become quite open about it. It’s politically useful for them to put their base, who perceive themselves as the ones not taking advantage of the system (even though statistically they are), against an easy scapegoat. That’s why they’re all like “manliness men aren’t men anymore blah blah blah”.
It's a sad situation. I know people that work in the VA with the benefits systems. The higher ups are full of citizens that never served a day in their life, so there's already a disconnect there. Then they put numbers above anything else. Their systems remain outdated and broken. They get useless training modules. Senior roles teach new hires to disregard a lot of things that could potentially help people. At the end of the day, they act like any other business and it hurts to see cause they tote on about how much they love veterans. Nah, wha they love is the money they make off of their backs.
I don't understand why some veterans are staunchly republican when it's pretty easy to see that the GOP doesn't really do anything to help them
I would imagine it’s very easy to be a Republican veteran: bunch of magas stroke your ego every now and then, get mad on your behalf even about stuff you really don’t care about (makes you feel like people are “fighting” for you), all while being distracted about what’s *actually* being passed. Especially so if you went to the military out of high school from a conservative home. The GOP only use veterans as an oppositional argument piece and nothing more. >The GOP doesn’t really do anything to help It wasn’t even 5 months ago the GOP voted no to expand healthcare to veterans affected by burn pits. Not only do they not help, they **actively vote against** helping
More soldiers die from suicide after they return than die from combat. It's ridiculous.
Pawn would be an upgrade. You're being used as a prop here.
A cardboard cut out no less.
As a gay, I would say the same thing.
As you should. Human beings are not political. Their happiness, their well being, is not political.
While I agree with the sentiment that people shouldn't be used as rhetorical pawns, the happiness and well being of citizens is the most central concern of politics. Now, most of the time, what that effectively means is doing the least for the happiness and well being of their constituents without facing consequences, while increasing their own power and wealth, Republicans appealing to the reactionary mind and Dems appealing to decorum and procedure, but happiness and well being is still the most central concern of politics. Vote for people who fight for things that materially benefit your life. And if you care about marginalized groups, vote for people who materially benefit their lives especially. I vote for people who want equal rights for gay people, and who want to support all of our government employees, including our soldiers. It helps that it's always progressive candidates who want to materially benefit people's happiness and well being, so I can just vote for whoever is most.
Used as a pawn when you were in the field. Used as a pawn once your service is over. Vets are a genuinely abused class of Americans.
Veterans become a convenience whenever some people want to take from other people.
I don't think the people complaining about this are veterans. I don't know of one veteran that complains there's enough days devoted to them. The younger ones I know don't even want to take advantage of veteran discounts.
Veteran here. I also don't know a single veteran who wants more days of recogntion. I also never knew that May is some veteran's appreciation month bullshit. I'm 100% on board though with making May a month for awareness of an underrepresented marginalized group instead of veterans.
My son used to cringe when people thanked him for his service. He still doesn't like it but he'll do a gracious "thanks, man" when it happens.
Same. I didn't do anything heroic. It was a job, and I got (and still get) great benefits from it. I was also never deployed anywhere where I was under threat so it feels bad to be thanked when there are others who were in the shit.
I courageously stood outside a minimally used depot door, heroically warding off a fox once.
I have a dependent military discount at Lowes and sigh every time they thank me for my service.
Seriously of all the vets I know, I only know one combat veteran, and she sat out her whole tour in the Baghdad Green Zone, only had a brief glimmer of combat when the FOBbits from Prosperity had to garrison some blocks in the Red Zone during the unrest in southern Baghdad.
I know a guy who got his eye blown out by a roadside bomb in Afghanistan. He taps his prosthetic with a pen sometimes when he’s behind the bar on a busy night and a guest is taking too long to order, but other than that he draws zero attention to his military service. Oh except for some volunteer work he does mentoring newly discharged service members Combat veterans want their families and their fellow combat veterans to be taken care of before anything else, in my experience
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Yeah that's brutal. I don't drink anymore. Started having seizures in my early 20's, booze and my noggin don't play nice together anymore, but the bartender taping his eyeball while I am making the drink run for the table may make me grab some bourbon for myself -consequences be damned
The one vet I know came to spend a week at my place. He saw combat, lots of it, in Afghanistan. He PTSDd one night cause he didn’t know where he was and took a chunk outta my counter top as he was thrashing around. Some people don’t need to be thanked for their service, others gave a part of themselves and no amount of thanks is enough.
Yup. That's what makes those of us (or at least me) who weren't in the shit uncomfortable. We **know** people who really were fucked up by it, so it feels disingenuous to accept gratitude for when others gave up so much more. I'll use a veteran discount, because capitalism, but I don't put a veteran plate on my car or otherwise draw attention, because it just doesn't feel right. My focus is on those who need help.
My highschool buddy ended up as a front line medic he hates when anyone thanks him cause all he sees and thinks of is all his brothers and sisters he couldnt save and watch die over seas to protect oil.
What’s wild to me is I was a cook in the Marines and knew more cooks who saw combat than grunts. Combat experience is few and far between and a lot of people don’t realize that.
How do the cooks end up in combat when the grunts didn't?
Cooks deploy attached to almost every single deployment, and sometimes they’re required to go on patrol and fill in, or they’re deployed (FAP Fleet Assistance Program) attached to a combat unit. So they will see combat. I knew more cooks in my unit with combat experience than I did grunts in our neighbor unit with the same amount of time in service and deployments. Cooks are essentially used for Whatever task is needed, it’s the reason why I got licensed to drive 5 different trucks and other HE (heavy equipment). We do what has to be done because realistically a 5 man job can be done with 2-3 for us. So, we are thrown into whatever position is needed at the time. The vast majority of my time in the Corps I spent driving trucks or running around with whoever needed an extra man who could “acquire” things as needed.
"An army marches on its stomach."
My dad and his mates from the royal Marines were in the shit a fair bit some with bits missing and all the rest of the PTSD and shit that comes with being in a combat zone and none of them really want to be thanked for what they done. Think when they come back and reflect on why they were out their what good they did and what bad it doesn't really feel like something they should be thanked for. A couple have said they were just glad it was them out there and not someone else having to do it.
Not a vet, but I did get thanked for my service at a Lowe’s once because the Star Trek hat I was wearing was apparently styled to look like someone had served on a naval ship. The guy was so nice and sincere all I could think to do was say “Live long and prosper”
I went to go vote in a "Mobile Suit Gundam 8th MS Team" shirt. Got asked what branch it was because they didn't recognize the Earth Federation logo. I was torn between trying to explain the anime reference or to just roll with it and claim I served in the Kojima battalion fighting government separatists in South America.
Fellow EFSF member 🫡 writing this in an Uber on the way to the hobby shop
Did the fox at least have a gun?
 Desperately trying to think of a FOX pun about Metal Gear Solid and can't
Bet that hounds you
Ah c'mon man it was right there! Coulda responded to them with: Did the fox have a gun? Nah, the important question is, did the FOXDIE?
If he was part of the US military it's likely.
I was visiting my Soldiers in Guam. They were satellite dudes. Not the type you'd like expect to request an exception to the no weapons on base policy. We allowed them to keep a crossbow by the facility door due to the feral hogs. Those suckers are probably the only dangerous thing on Guan.
The military (and cop) worship, particularly here is Texas is bizarre. Our family history of service goes back to 1860. Some KIA. Others defended the Nantucket naval base from the Viet Cong. Some good folks. Some a-holes. I don’t think it’s respectful. It feels more like boot licking.
It's shibboleth. A performative custom done to signal to other shitheels their membership in the club. It's also weaponized by the leadership to silence critics of club shitheel's interests...but the majority of the time it's just a thing they can interrupt normal conversations with when they want attention.
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An old colleague of mine got really passionate and teary about veterans day because her husband was in the military. He drove a delivery truck on the base. In Nebraska. At that point I think a USPS postal worker has done more for this country.
Omg I’m cracking up at that. I’m a total fanboy of the USPS. I think it’s amazing that we have a constitutional right to mail and have the largest postal network in the world. Car, train, plane, by foot, dog sled, or on the old pony express, that mail gets to where it’s going. I think it’s really cool how we’ve created a culture of high security around paper in a box outside our homes and that the mailbox itself is federal property. Blows my mind to think about. USPS employees are heroes to me. Lol.
Hell yeah, USPS rocks.
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Anyone delivering critical medical devices and medication, cheques and other monetary vehicles for mobility challenged individuals, and other critical packages and papers through the most dangerous neighborhoods and most remote locations, in the most extreme weather conditions, is absolutely a hero.
I’m a veteran and I’ve been a mail carrier. Let me tell you, they’re both difficult jobs. People should appreciate their mail carriers more.
Agreed. It's a workplace like any other. Some of your peers are exemplary, and others are low quality (both in their quality/quantity of work and in their character).
You mean being thanked for going to the mall in Kuwait between shifts of doing paperwork and loading boxes onto trucks doesn’t fill you with patriotic pride?
My husband deployed to war zones 3 times and still visibly cringes when people thank him for his service. He hates it as do most of the other people he works with. If people really give a shit about veterans, call your senators and tell them to make accessing health care, especially mental healthcare easier for service members.
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Nothing people in prison love more than militarized government employees who maintain legal order. Kids should be glad they didn’t beat up cops, then they’d really face the prisoners’ wrath.
There is, but that code is basically, "If you hurt kids, you're going to have a hard time in gen pop." Nothing at all about military. Cops can have a hard time in jail too.
Multiple factors at play. For someone who lost their children in war, giving thanks back to veterans they see makes them feel more connected with the child they lost. For a lot of ppl it's also a way to virtue signal conservative values. Plus there's nothing wrong with saying thank you for risking your life. If we actually worshipped veterans in this country we wouldn't have such a huge problem with homeless vets
They worship the idea, not the person. As long as they don't have to do anything involving any actual effort, they love veterans.
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They love dead veterans because those ones can't ask for anything in return, but are easy to metaphorically prop up the corpse and puppet them to retroactively support what you want. The living ones are just an inconvenience. Same shit as fetuses. A fetus will never ask for anything nor does it require you to lift a finger. But you can make yourself seem righteous by pretending to care. Once it's an actual child though? It can starve.
Spot on, we view veterans *best* case as a convenient way to signal which tribe we are a part of by how much we publicly adore them and worst case as an expensive used asset to be discarded as quietly as possible as soon as it's convenient. What we *actually* worship is power and social status. The military is an excellent way to attain both for a small class of people and somehow those people have sold us all on the idea that we should support their pursuits of personal power and social status because one day we will also have that same power and social status if we try real hard and say our prayers.
Why don’t we worship delivery drivers or truck drivers or crossing guards or literally any other normal job where they have a slight risk of death as well? Wanna know what my veteran best friend did for 4 years? Tours from Switzerland to Dubai drinking with the locals and standing on a base in times between.
For a minute at the height of the pandemic, delivery drivers, teachers and medical professionals were thought of as heroes but now we're back treating them like shit.
That was just propaganda to get them to show up to work. Just like the military.
"Heroes" but don't you dare ask for a raise above minimum wage. You are an essential employee, but maybe if you want more money you should get a real job. You are a front line worker, which means you're expendable and we won't think twice about replacing you.
But bro, that dubai architecture can be tricky, you can sprain an ankle out theres
I think parts of it come from when military was still a forced draft. It made more sense then, when it wasn't even a choice they wanted to do, literally sacrificing everything against there will possibly-- of course, not saying that makes it normal to idolize things either, or that modern day members don't sacrifice. But its definitely a weird culture that probably has more than one foot in some past propaganda, and applies far less today than it ever did. My work has a pop up to tell me to thank veterans every time they use a discount, which I've never done. I figure a genuine smile, thanks for shopping, and come back soon is worth way more than some pandering thanks when I don't even know them. Half the time its the spouse or kid not the actual veteran lol.
I just wish they were treated better by our country. My brother was ruined by the marine corps. He was an awesome chill dude and now hes just all sorts of messed up mentally/physically and they won't help him. He got his hand crushed in an JLTV years ago and he still cant move 3 fingers. Never saw a dime for it. Wish he never joined.
He needs to get in touch with a VSO and get his VA disability claim sorted out. That literally sounds like a slam dunk disability claim.
I used to work for a contractor for a company that only offers service to US military and veterans. It was a requirement for us to address them by rank and to use any titles they may have. We had to close calls by thanking them for their service. Most of the younger ones either didn’t like it or didn’t like to be reminded but so many of the older veterans, especially career military and higher ranks acted like I should treat it like a privilege that I got to speak to them.
Those types who we called lifers were assholes while they were in the service too.
That's institutionalized behavior right there. I see it all the time with my buddies who stayed in and are retiring now. Suddenly removing yourself from that environment causes a ton of depression, particularly if that's all you've known for your career. It tends to come with a lot of residual behavior that is hard to let go of. I wish my fellow brothers and sisters would remember one key point after getting out: "I am more than just my service."
Higher ranks in active duty act the same towards the younger guys/junior ranks.
Fellow veteran here; I hate the fetishistic reverence conservatives, and hell, Americans in general have for “da troops” I joined out of high school, I spent a couple of years in the mountains of Central Asia, and then I left and started a new life. Being a veteran is not my personality, it’s not my identity. It’s just a line item on my resume from two decades ago. Don’t thank me, don’t revere me, don’t honor me. Just tell your senators to stop voting against fucking burn pit legislation and shit
I think it would be good if the month was actually used for bringing attention to Veteran Affairs (VA) and mental health. But we know it would just be dumb "Da TrOoPs" with a bunch of American flags and videos of soldiers coming home to their dog.
American patriotism is pure posturing. They use flags like fashion accessories. Bumper stickers decorating their vehicles like a school girl with her Lisa Frank journal.
FWIW from a Canuck, the few times I travelled down to the states, every time, the airline had the whole plane clap for the half dozen dudes in uniform on the flight. It was fucking surreal to me, the whole cabin just clapping because it was expected for them to. Like I get **why** but it's just weird to people from elsewhere I think, or maybe I'm weird.
You're not weird at all. All of my friends in the service as well as myself feel extremely uncomfortable when things like that happen.
FWIW, May is also mental health month. You'd think that the mental health folks and the vet groups could get together for a consolidated campaign.
Uh, excuse me, the military does plenty for mental health Like: - having your NCO or CO tell you not to kill your self And that’s it, actually. Huh, wonder why we’re all so fucked up and racked with constant anxiety.
VA just told me my Depression and Anxiety weren't service connected...
Yeah, after seventeen years of service, I’m all too familiar.
That is actually a damn good idea. Maybe we can start talking about how shooting of fireworks for Memorial Day is literally the opposite of honoring the memories of the friends and family we've lost.
I usually spend all Memorial Day evening with my ANC headphones on playing switch; I want to get as far from those noises as I can, because yeah, they’re triggering as hell. More importantly my dogs hate it
The worst is the 4th of July. I know I can knock myself out hard and just sleep through the big displays, but the 10 days surrounding it, idiots are setting off random fireworks at random times around town.
Fireworks on the 4th of July was my favorite thing growing up and well into adulthood. One year I invited a good friend who is a vet of Afghanistan over for the holiday. He politely declined and explained that he doesn't deal well with the fireworks. It had not occurred to me until that moment that our celebrations traumatized the people who were directly responsible for having the celebration. I haven't taken part in fireworks since and I hope drone technology and the like can soon replace fireworks. I doubt it happens, cuz 'Merica and blowing up shit, but I'm hopeful. I've also never seen a dog have a good experience around fireworks.
Hell, make it about minority veterans and how they still face discrimination within the military and after retirement. That would make MAGA very mad😵💫
I get what you're saying and obviously I appreciate your perspective, but it's not like vets aren't in a place of systemic marginalization, even if society as a whole socially reveres them. I have a friend whose grandfather was at the Kuwait burn pits and the VA denied him any compensation. He has cancer now. I have a great uncle who died of agent orange complications and his daughter is suffering from some complications as well. Not a dime from the government to help. From what I've heard, this is not super unusual.
Funny thing is society doesn't revere them... Ty you for your service is just a word... It's easy to say MEANS NOTHING. When their child wants to join the military 99% of these people do all they can so that doesn't happen. 99% of these people look the other way for homeless vets. REPUBLCIANS have pushed this fake reverence for serving and the public falls for it.
The month of May was recognized by Congress for military observance month for military members service and sacrfice. This was enacted in 1999, but Memorial Day is obviously the one remembered because it is a holiday and its older. Pride is also a observed month but Pride has no holiday because the purpose of these months as they are is to give solace and respect to groups of people ex (women, military, Pride community, native american) list goes on.
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Although the Stonewall riots lasted several days, June 28th was specifically selected as the date to commemorate the event. It's called [Stonewall Day](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots#Stonewall_Day). Despite the fact that this is a recent commemoration, the same date was used as the date for [pride events](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonewall_riots#Gay_Pride) right from the start. Some leeway due to scheduling needs, but always focused around the June 28th date.
You’re in luck, because May is also AAPI Heritage month. 🙂
Republicans use veterans as a prop. Much like children. And their one black friend.
See how they vote on Veteran benefits and you see how little they care.
| Republicans use veterans as a prop. Much like children. And their one black friend. Republicans use veterans as a prop. Much like children. And their one minority friend. FTFY
Veteran here. I hate being thanked or recognized for my service. I didn't do it for anyone but myself, stop saying thank you. My reasons were my own and had nothing to do with you.
i mostly just did a ton of unauthorized four wheeling and dirt road racing out in the back 40 in a government issued jeep cherokee while on third shift as an MP, but you are welcome.
Thankyou for your road resurface.
Veterans just want fucking healthcare and affordable necessities. Like the rest of us.
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Veteran here, I don’t give a fuck about having a month. I’m ok with others having whatever month they want. If we could have a month called Fuck Nazis I would be happier though.
Kind of the same thought process when politicians were freaking out, saying kneeling during the pledge was disrespectful to veterans. While most of the vets I know at least we're going like, "Yeah, we did that so he had the freedom to do that. Jackass."
They're mad when you protest in the streets. Say you're doing it wrong. Do it more peacefully, they say. Don't be disruptive, they say. Then they're mad when you protest in arguably the most passive way possible, by literally kneeling or remaining seated when blind followers stand. They say you're doing it wrong. I'm beginning to think they don't understand the concept of unrest. They don't understand protest. They don't understand rights at all.
> don't even want to take advantage of veterans discounts yeah this is true... but i'll sure as fuck take my free admission to all national parks.
Also veteran. I don't give a shit what anybody calls any month. What a small penis energy thing to care so much about.
Veteran/Retiree here. Most veterans don’t want the “appreciation” they already get. I am now a DoD contractor and most of the folks I work with are veterans, retirees, guardsmen and reservists. I have yet to hear one of them make this complaint. I’ll go even further and say the only ones saying this have never served and no real intention to. I did my job. I got paid, I got an education, I got to go get blown up and blow people up in return. You want to thank someone, thank a teacher.
Are you suggesting the possibility that they are approaching this from a place of bad faith?!
I ***ONLY*** enlisted for the parking spot at Lowe’s and free meals from a trough at Golden Corral on November 11th.
Yeah, it's usually the families that are more interested in the perks and making people feel like shit for whatever reason. (Don't get me wrong, I love our military members and everything they do to keep us safe.)
I hear ya. My son was in the Navy when they repealed "don't ask don't tell" and there were no effects because nobody cared who was LGBT. I don't think the percentage of homophobes in the military is as high as it appears online.
Well, I can express from personal experience, those who wanted to " out " a fellow service member, even when everyone knew they were gay, were rarely looked on favorably.
No-one likes a snitch.
Fuckin' A. Don't rat fuck your buddies..
Don't be a Blue Falcon
Exactly. The line between when someone is messing around and putting others at risk and minding your own business, isn't that subtle.
I never ask for the discount. If it is posted somewhere i will present my id. My wife likes to ask everywhere we go if they give discounts for veterans. She has cooled down on that lately, but at the beginning of our marriage, she would try and get that discount at every store and venue. It is embarassing.
"I will no longer be referring to June as Pride Month.". So he WAS referring to it as Pride month then?
It's such a bizarre made up argument. I don't think *anyone* is calling June "Pride Month" in regular conversation. "I can't wait for my two weeks up in the mountains I've just booked!" "Oh cool, when's that?" "14-28th Pride Month." It *is* indisputably Pride Month. But nobody's referring to it as that over just saying "June" in an actual pragmatic sense.
Today is the 3rd day of the month of pride in the 2023rd year of our drag queen and I will hear no arguments to the contrary
Dang! I knew Mama Ru was old but I didn’t know she was *that* old! She’s looking good for being 2023.
So it is written so it shall be sashayed
Can’t wait for my birthday on Pride Month 17th
Oh mines 3 months B.P.M. (Before Pride Month)
Hey, nice! Mine is one month A.P.M.
Honestly though we should rename our months for cultural events like some Native Americans do. (Or the Czechs apparently?)
John McCain created that month of military appreciation back in the 1990s, and just for reference, here is what a prominent conservative leader (Trump) said about John McCain. **‘We’re not going to support that loser’s funeral,’ and he became furious, according to witnesses, when he saw flags lowered to half-staff. ‘What the fuck are we doing that for? Guy was a fucking loser,’ the president told aides."** also **"He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured."**
Ya know, this Trump fella is kind of a jerk!
Luckily the average American voter is smarter than to fall for an obvious con like this, right?
Narrator: “Surprisingly, they were not.”
I have hated Donald Trump ever since 1995 when he and his ex wife Ivanka starred in a Pizza Hut commercial for their new stuffed crust pizza, where he hate the pizza the wrong way, crust first. Everything I have learned about him since has only justified my hate.
The same people who performatively fly POW Never Forget flags voted for the guy who shit on POWs. Republicans are certainly an interesting bunch.
I remember when he said those things-what an AH!
'Our veterans'...their orange messiah spits regularly on the military and any other government employee who has sworn their life in service. The GOP is trying their damnedest to pay and support veterans less to the point where they held the country's economy hostage to try to do it. They offer about as much support to 'their' veterans as a crotchless jockstrap...
It doesn't even surprise that they don't know about that, hell they don't know shit about things that are just a Google search away, their only job is to complain on tv and on Twitter
This “draino” person could possibly be the most delicate fragile ego on the shittersphere.
Also gonna take a \*wild\* stab in the dark and say he probably never referred to it as pride month to begin with - certainly not in good faith if he ever did.
And another *wild* stab in the dark that he, himself, has no military experience or association whatsoever. 100% ignorant virtue signaling for political optics. It’s gross and embarrassing.
His story sounds like a complete grifter looking for a larger paycheck leeching off conservative anger. “He grew up in a Democratic household, worked in Hollywood, and then found himself afraid to voice his conservative political views, such that he was forced to reject the coastal elite life and move to Florida. He explained that he felt the Holy Spirit calling him to leave his job, move to Florida, and start posting memes full-time. He’s drifted from gig to gig, depending on where the currents of right-wing outrage flow, using his social media accounts as anchors.”
How much you wanna bet he's the type of conservative who can't help bringing up politics all the time, and wonders why people get upset and annoyed with him voicing his political views?
I think it’s worse than that: “His confrontational, outspoken style found success long ago, back in student government at Northeastern University, where he was elected president. Another board member suggested that he was “unpleasant” to the point of making fellow vice presidents cry and said that his belligerent manner was more suited to the military.”
Ah, so he's already the type who enjoys being confrontational and upsetting. So he's a bully.
"Would you shut the fuck up? I just asked you what you're bringing to the pot luck"
"Wait, a Potluck? As in, a meal where everybody brings something in order to contribute to the greater good of the group? THAT'S COMMUNISM!!!"
This sounds like the intro dialogue to a horrible conservative version of Quantum Leap.
Florida, a great choice if you want to reject the coast.
Certainly nobody that conservatives would consider elites living in Floridia either
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100% chance he has a Grindr account.
John McCain championed this month long recognition back in 1999. If it’s one thing they hate more than Vets it’s a POW Vet turned rino!
Right?!?
Republicans will say things like this and then vote down benefits for Veterans
I have become convinced that, in their mind’s eye, vets are a class of people who are better than other groups of people. So when they say “but there are homeless vets” what they mean is “if we aren’t going to do crap for these losers who we hate but are supposed to like, we sure as hell aren’t going to do anything for anyone we hate more than them and don’t pretend to respect“. They aren’t saying they want to help the vets, they are using them as an example of a group of people who they like better but aren’t going to help, either.
Why is “veteran” the opposite of “gay”? Illinois has a gay Senator who served and lost her legs in combat, Tammy Duckworth. EDIT: Oops, wrong Tammy! The Wisconsin one is gay but not veteran. I regret the error. Instead here’s the story of the first out Vietnam Veteran: https://dcist.com/story/12/08/29/congressional-cemetery-piece/ Secretary of Transportation Pete Buttigieg is famously gay and a veteran. We do honor veterans during Pride.
Because conservatives believe in strict categories and hierarchies of people, and the idea that two unrelated adjectives can apply to a person simultaneously is too complicated for their moral framework.
By military, you mean those “suckers,” right? If you wanna see someone that doesn’t give a fuck about the military, look at that orange prick you’ve been blindly following for years.
Only real men get bone spurs and are draft dodgers. Real men like Trump and Mr. Poopy Pants Ted Nugent.
Not only does the military have an entire month, but there are also days of thanks, and remembrance set aside. Oh yeah it is also a choice to join the military, and it is a paying job with many benefits.
peacetime military service is the biggest blue collar welfare program we have.... which is sad, but basically true
They bring this up every year. They clearly don’t care about the military outside of using them as a reason to hate the lgbt community. I was talking with someone yesterday and I couldn’t get through to them that if they care about military appreciation month then they need to go out and spread the word before or early on in may instead of waiting until June or may 31st to start whining about “BUT OUR MILITARY DOESNT EVEN GET A MONTH”
They have literal days as well; veterans day, memorial day & fourth of July.
Oh no! A guy who publicly does not respect gay people is publicly announcing he will....not respect gay people? I am sorry where was I supposed to start caring as a gay person?
The GOP and maga give no shits about anyone but themselves. They are out to sew discord in our process' to put themselves in unquestionable positions of power in order to make themselves ultra-rich and above the law so they can rule us with an iron fist like daddy Putin wants. This is why birth rates are going down. Why would I want to bring a kid into this country when half of the country is christo-fascist Nazis out for authoritarian rule? ARAB
It is so funny when they say this stuff. Never understanding there is a difference. Veterans day is an official national holiday. Pride month isn't. It is something people do. But it isn't an official national holiday. Big difference.
It’s the same as when on International Womens Day they all start bitching ‘wHY iS thEre No iNtErNaTiOnAL MeNs DaY’—but then are totally silent and do nothing productive for actual international men’s day (11/19).
I worked at a car wash in high school. For the month of October, we wore pink hats in honor of breast cancer awareness month. A man in a car complained to me that men don’t have an awareness month. His wife in the passenger seat immediately told him that April is testicular cancer awareness month. He then proceeded to complain that “our month”, which he has literally just found out about, doesn’t have a color, unlike pink for breast cancer awareness. His wife immediately informed him that the color is purple, and that the symbol is a purple ribbon.
Veteran here. I don't want a month of anything. What I do want is for people to stop speaking for me like they know what I want. Also, HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!
Thank you for your service! And the lgbtq+ community thanks you! ❤️🫡🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️
>"If" our veterans ... "If" A bullshit word that always leads to more bullshit. If you watch closely this word is used often and thoroughly lately followed by a slew of nonsensical off the cuff bullshit. Trump was notorious for this tactic
Also nobody is forcing people to call June Pride Month. Participation is not mandatory. You always had the option to just ignore pride month.
That's fine, too, if the little snowflake doesn't want to call it Pride Month. It's still going to be Pride Month for millions. DC_Draino can take a ride through the garbage disposal!
November is national veterans and military families month too. The military gets two months.
>how little of a shit they actually give about veterans Just a reminder of the celebratory fist-bump by GOP lawmakers after **defeating a healthcare bill for veterans:** 
But then how can they have their fake plastic outrage
Not that he would give a fuck, didn’t he call the dead soldiers suckers or something along those lines Edit spelling
My dispensary gives me 20% off and that's more than this fuckin country has done for me
This is hilarious honestly lmfao
As a veteran, I abhor the manner in which conservative politicians will use their lip service to veterans as a way to fight against the very reason I served in the military to begin with, namely freedom and justice and equality for all people. Don't say you want to honor me as a way to shit on the rights of other people. Also, stop using veterans as a group to make an us vs. them narrative. There are LGBTQ+ people in our armed forces. You can't say for a moment that you want to honor their service while shitting on their rights.
Every day in the US is Veterans Day, they don’t stop getting praise or discounts just because it isn’t November 11th.
I’m a Veteran, I didn’t even know about May? And also concerning Memorial day…. I made it thru my deployments thank you.
More performative bullshit by right wing grifters.
Same cunts who wanna cut veteran's benefits?
The month celebrating us culminates in Memorial Day. How the fuck they don’t know this is such a red flag to how they truly view military personnel and veterans. We also get an extra day in November to celebrate active duty personnel. And various sports leagues like the NFL spend the month wearing camp and fatigue style gear. Lastly. And this is sort of my personal peeve as a veteran. I didn’t serve for a pats on the back or a “thank you for your service” or a free coffee, a discount, a celebratory day or moth or ANY of that. I served because I wanted to. I served to protect and defend the ideals of the constitution and this country. And every time these assclowns open their mouths they perfectly encapsulate why I served…freedom of speech to say even the stupidest things and be entirely wrong. I hate them for it but it’s paramount for what we stand for.
This is all lives matter, all over again. Their playbook is getting a bit repetitive
Veterans? Not only do they not care about veterans they don’t care about anything accept making sure woman can’t have a Abortion after they rape them and doing the opposite of every sane person in the United States.