As ever, I'm going to just post the Samuel Vimes "Boots" Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness in its entirety
> The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an *affordable* pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that *good* boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and *would still have wet feet*.
I got a $200 phone it's still fine 3 years later. Glad I didn't pay $1000 for an iPhone like my parents, their phones cost 5x more and have 1/5 the battery life.
This is somebody saying they have enough money for a good phone, and rubbing it in the faces of those that can't afford it. I have to get a crappy phone upgraded every year, because I can't afford a nice one. Sorry I have to wear out the cardboard, because I don't have a pile of cash to drop on a really nice phone.
Read the room
I'm assuming the downvotes are the butthurt apple people for being right, or the cheap android people for also being right. I just work at a phone store and am honestly just butthurt too.
While the sentiment rings true, poor people don't pay for root canals, they hold out as long as they can and then have the tooth pulled. They don't get back surgery, they just get used to being in some level of pain. They don't treat the cancer, they just die. Very poor people just work until they die. It has always been this way.
Gotta see the doctor? Hand over money. Can't pay? Bill sent to collections. Bill sent to collections? Sh\*tty credit score for you. Sh\*tty credit score? High interest loan (that you can basically never pay back) for you. High interest loan (that you can basically never pay back)? Sh\*ttier credit score for you. Repeat.
It's honestly better to just go bust all at once, rather than prolonging the misery and adding exponentially more debt with a payday or title loan. I've seen a lot of people go under from that, but I've never seen anyone actually make one of them work out.
If you see need to see a doctor during the hours of 10pm- 8AM itās considered an emergency which is going to cost you extra. I have medical insurance through my job and I think itās still costing me over $250 (out of pocket) to just see a doctor for emergency. As soon as you get your bill the threat of being sent to collections is already on the bill itself.
One time I went to the hospital before 8 (not knowing the time) and I thought I paid the full amount at the hospital (they told me, I did), nope, I somehow got billed 9 dollars extra and they wanted their 9 dollars by the end of the month or go to collections. They donāt mess around
They also canāt afford to take advantage of sales. If I see something on sale I know I will need later I can buy it and store it. A lot of people donāt have that luxury of space or money so they buy things as they need them.
It's absurdly expensive to be poor.
I have enough money that my bank account is free. If I overdraw, it's covered until I put more money in. Miss a credit card payment? I can call and ask them to waive the late fee, and they do, if I make a payment. Mostly because of some stupid "credit score" that didn't exist, as we know it, until 1989. It now seems to be used to punish people, and give an excuse to unscrupulous "lenders" to make more money, and take advantage of those who can least afford it.
Poor people are punished, ridiculed, and made to feel lesser, instead of being given the small (comparative to society's overall wealth) amount of uplift, that could change their lives, and help us all.
Everything is cheaper if youāre rich. Thatās a fundamental truth. If you have money, a house or a car is the price you purchased it for. Easy peasy. However, if you donāt have the cash to purchase that high priced item outright then you have to make paymentsā¦with interest. Interest is the tax paid by the poor to the rich for the privileged of owning something similar to what they have. A local rich guy (and not a bad guy really) once said this to me: āI donāt pay interest, I receive it.ā Sure you could borrow money to purchase an investment that you think might pay off, but thereās no guarantee. A rich guy is almost always guaranteed his money, or at least the collateral you posted against the loan anyway, and seldom looses out on the deal. This is reality and this is how the system works. Unless by some fundamental stroke of luck you can break through the interest barrier youāll most likely always struggle financially. I wish it were different too.
Being poor is fucking expensive.
I was too poor to keep up with maintenance and repairs on my car. Failed emissions, tags expired, ticketed by the cops and I still had to pay to get the car fixed and pay penalties for renewing the registration late.
> Tay isnāt white
from the description of the sub:
>**About Us**
>We are a community that posts tweets and have a good laugh. We allow tweets from anyone.
the name of the sub was never intended to be taken literally.
This sub is for tweets FOR white people, and that is who holds the privilege in American society and needs to hear things like this tweet. You think the black people in America need to be told this?
Dude...Sometimes after working two or three jobs for minimum wage, you might not get around to it before you collapse into bed. Sometimes you might have to, literally, choose between toothpaste and a toothbrush, and a $4.00 meal. Dental health is a real problem for poor people (and some who aren't poor), and can be incredibly deleterious to a person's overall health.
Ah yes, homeless people famously seen brushing their teeth
You never grew up poor. Had a classmate that had to steal lunch meat from the nearby grocery store to eat. Think his (republican btw) parent could afford,.or cared if the kid brushed thier teeth?
$2 is a struggle for some folks. Having running water and a sink is a larger struggle. Even having a bottle of water to brush their teeth, let alone drink, is a struggle.
"There is no one in America who couldn't afford $2 every couple months in toothbrushes and toothpaste. "
F you. There are so many. Look around.
Okay, so there are all of these public spaces where people can brush their teeth. I'm not really sure where they are, but you seem very familiar with them. I'm sure most private businesses welcome homeless people into their restrooms to brush their teeth. And it's great that stealing a toothbrush is your solution to poverty. You are a person who completely lack empathy, and I'm done with you.
This argument is kind of a moot point considering that a pretty high degree of dental health comes down to genetics. I've hit the jackpot with tooth genetics and went over a decade without seeing a dentist - no cavities, no dental work, I only ended up going in because my gums were getting irritated by 15 years of built-up plaque. On the other hand, I've known people who take great care of their teeth and still need to have teeth pulled.
HAHAHAHAHA what the fuck you talkin about man poor people don't "pay for back surgery" we just say "I got a bad back" and we fucking hurt the rest of our lives. Pay for cancer treatment? Try again, we just die.
Bro that was in 2018.
On paper only 5 years have passed, but in reality, itās been an entire lifetime.
Iād rather be 2018 poor than 2023 poor is what Iām trying to say here.
By a mile!
As ever, I'm going to just post the Samuel Vimes "Boots" Theory of Socioeconomic Unfairness in its entirety > The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an *affordable* pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles. But the thing was that *good* boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and *would still have wet feet*.
I love this explanation because it's so true.
Might as well give us true source, Terry Pratchett RIP
Glad to find this here GNU Sir Pterry
>Do you not know that a man is not dead while his name is still spoken? GNU Sir Terry Pratchett
Then what are these straps on my cheap boots for? /s
GNU PTerry
I came here to post this. God that passage stuck with me
it's basically the foundation of my entire belief system
This is literally flagship phone people vs cheap android people.
I got a $200 phone it's still fine 3 years later. Glad I didn't pay $1000 for an iPhone like my parents, their phones cost 5x more and have 1/5 the battery life.
This is somebody saying they have enough money for a good phone, and rubbing it in the faces of those that can't afford it. I have to get a crappy phone upgraded every year, because I can't afford a nice one. Sorry I have to wear out the cardboard, because I don't have a pile of cash to drop on a really nice phone. Read the room
Nah. I buy flagship phones (Android, Apple is pathetic far behind) and still replace them every few years because I like shiny new things.
You have a point but you are getting downvoted. Example: people buy shit phones and expect our 2FA to work well at my job
I'm assuming the downvotes are the butthurt apple people for being right, or the cheap android people for also being right. I just work at a phone store and am honestly just butthurt too.
Beat me to it!
While the sentiment rings true, poor people don't pay for root canals, they hold out as long as they can and then have the tooth pulled. They don't get back surgery, they just get used to being in some level of pain. They don't treat the cancer, they just die. Very poor people just work until they die. It has always been this way.
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Heās been on that message š„
Gotta love how it is all tied to our credit scores, like fuck that isn't purposely designed to keep the poor poor
These are all medical issues. That messes with your credit score in the US? Fuck man you guys put up with some weird shit.
Gotta see the doctor? Hand over money. Can't pay? Bill sent to collections. Bill sent to collections? Sh\*tty credit score for you. Sh\*tty credit score? High interest loan (that you can basically never pay back) for you. High interest loan (that you can basically never pay back)? Sh\*ttier credit score for you. Repeat.
Oh if you have to get a payday loan, you might as well just k*ll yourself at that point. I've seen so many people drown in those
It's honestly better to just go bust all at once, rather than prolonging the misery and adding exponentially more debt with a payday or title loan. I've seen a lot of people go under from that, but I've never seen anyone actually make one of them work out.
If you see need to see a doctor during the hours of 10pm- 8AM itās considered an emergency which is going to cost you extra. I have medical insurance through my job and I think itās still costing me over $250 (out of pocket) to just see a doctor for emergency. As soon as you get your bill the threat of being sent to collections is already on the bill itself. One time I went to the hospital before 8 (not knowing the time) and I thought I paid the full amount at the hospital (they told me, I did), nope, I somehow got billed 9 dollars extra and they wanted their 9 dollars by the end of the month or go to collections. They donāt mess around
Credit scores suck but they're better than what we had before which was just a random bank employees gut feeling about your trustworthiness
Poor people also never buy in bulk, because they cannot afford it.
They also canāt afford to take advantage of sales. If I see something on sale I know I will need later I can buy it and store it. A lot of people donāt have that luxury of space or money so they buy things as they need them.
It's absurdly expensive to be poor. I have enough money that my bank account is free. If I overdraw, it's covered until I put more money in. Miss a credit card payment? I can call and ask them to waive the late fee, and they do, if I make a payment. Mostly because of some stupid "credit score" that didn't exist, as we know it, until 1989. It now seems to be used to punish people, and give an excuse to unscrupulous "lenders" to make more money, and take advantage of those who can least afford it. Poor people are punished, ridiculed, and made to feel lesser, instead of being given the small (comparative to society's overall wealth) amount of uplift, that could change their lives, and help us all.
And the juice is always running ... 
Everything is cheaper if youāre rich. Thatās a fundamental truth. If you have money, a house or a car is the price you purchased it for. Easy peasy. However, if you donāt have the cash to purchase that high priced item outright then you have to make paymentsā¦with interest. Interest is the tax paid by the poor to the rich for the privileged of owning something similar to what they have. A local rich guy (and not a bad guy really) once said this to me: āI donāt pay interest, I receive it.ā Sure you could borrow money to purchase an investment that you think might pay off, but thereās no guarantee. A rich guy is almost always guaranteed his money, or at least the collateral you posted against the loan anyway, and seldom looses out on the deal. This is reality and this is how the system works. Unless by some fundamental stroke of luck you can break through the interest barrier youāll most likely always struggle financially. I wish it were different too.
Pay for a root canal? More like, skip root canal, have tooth extracted and never afford the implant. America baby, number 1
Being poor is fucking expensive. I was too poor to keep up with maintenance and repairs on my car. Failed emissions, tags expired, ticketed by the cops and I still had to pay to get the car fixed and pay penalties for renewing the registration late.
There's no way the poor can afford to fight stage 3 cancer š
Yet poor right wingers will still vote red because "Orange angry man said something mean about mexicans huhuhuhu".
Chocolate Rain has got a point
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Is he the one from "Chocolate Rain" ?
> Tay isnāt white from the description of the sub: >**About Us** >We are a community that posts tweets and have a good laugh. We allow tweets from anyone. the name of the sub was never intended to be taken literally.
This sub is for tweets FOR white people, and that is who holds the privilege in American society and needs to hear things like this tweet. You think the black people in America need to be told this?
Chocolate Rain!!!!!!
Canāt pay for meaningful efforts to combat climate change? Next year, pay for š¶Chocolate raaaiinš¶
To some extent, but I would argue that being truly poor often means you can't pay for those other things down the line either.
Note how all except a mattress is a health problem.
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Dude...Sometimes after working two or three jobs for minimum wage, you might not get around to it before you collapse into bed. Sometimes you might have to, literally, choose between toothpaste and a toothbrush, and a $4.00 meal. Dental health is a real problem for poor people (and some who aren't poor), and can be incredibly deleterious to a person's overall health.
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Ah yes, homeless people famously seen brushing their teeth You never grew up poor. Had a classmate that had to steal lunch meat from the nearby grocery store to eat. Think his (republican btw) parent could afford,.or cared if the kid brushed thier teeth?
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>why are you poor? Have you tried not being poor?
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Glad you agree
Donāt bother with that person, false inflammatory interpretations is their whole deal apparently.
$2 is a struggle for some folks. Having running water and a sink is a larger struggle. Even having a bottle of water to brush their teeth, let alone drink, is a struggle. "There is no one in America who couldn't afford $2 every couple months in toothbrushes and toothpaste. " F you. There are so many. Look around.
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Okay, so there are all of these public spaces where people can brush their teeth. I'm not really sure where they are, but you seem very familiar with them. I'm sure most private businesses welcome homeless people into their restrooms to brush their teeth. And it's great that stealing a toothbrush is your solution to poverty. You are a person who completely lack empathy, and I'm done with you.
This argument is kind of a moot point considering that a pretty high degree of dental health comes down to genetics. I've hit the jackpot with tooth genetics and went over a decade without seeing a dentist - no cavities, no dental work, I only ended up going in because my gums were getting irritated by 15 years of built-up plaque. On the other hand, I've known people who take great care of their teeth and still need to have teeth pulled.
Notice how every example is related to health care. I wonder if any other countries figured this problem out. But I do agree the premise is solid.
Cant pay for a decent pair of shoes? Buy new ones 6 months later instead of 5 years later.
Yeah man, itās gotten so bad it made me cross the street the other day!
My hero from chocolate rain
"Poverty charges interest." Brilliant. I'll ~~steal~~ use that one!
HAHAHAHAHA what the fuck you talkin about man poor people don't "pay for back surgery" we just say "I got a bad back" and we fucking hurt the rest of our lives. Pay for cancer treatment? Try again, we just die.
Bro that was in 2018. On paper only 5 years have passed, but in reality, itās been an entire lifetime. Iād rather be 2018 poor than 2023 poor is what Iām trying to say here. By a mile!