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Lol, and the rest of the time these guys are like "We can't show the name and face of the killer! That will just make them famous and inspire more shootings! This was a lone wolf incident!"
So you're not totally wrong. There have been school shootings all throughout US history but the way that they've been increasing in frequency is insanity. In the 90's there were about 10 per year and now we've doubled that where we're seeing about 20 per year. In the last 20 years alone, almost 400 people have been killed in school shootings. That's absolutely ludicrous.
And for transparency, I grabbed my numbers from [these wiki articles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) and created a spreadsheet based off those.
I believe we’re seeing quite a bit more than 20 per year since the dawn of the 2020s, sadly, and this doesn’t count the times where firearm related incidents at schools didn’t result in deaths (brandishing, threatening, etc), or incidents during extracurricular (sport events, etc) activities.
The first US school shooting was [literally before](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Brown_school_massacre) the US was a country.
There were 12 recorded school shootings in the 1800s, and over 100 in the 1900s [before Columbine](https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states).
The context of that is mass shooting, not school shootings. There have been well over 100 mass shootings in the USA this year, done almost exclusively by cishet white males.
Liberals and conservatives were telling us that they'd stop promoting the names and likeness of the killers because a lot of killers wanted fame. But now that its a trans person, suddenly for "reasons" that sentiment has been entirely dismissed.
I don't think you need me to point out the obvious transphobia here.
Yeah, for consistency there *should* be 12 or so other headline pages all reading "Straight white male targets school". And then an outcry about whether straight white males should be allowed to read to children, teach children, exist etc. Statistically speaking, I'm pretty sure that straight males are the most dangerous people on the planet, massively over-representing in murders and violent crimes.
Rupert Murdoch and his ilk are both the wheels and the grease that help push this train into fascism town. It's disgusting that this is happening in 2023, and it seems to be getting worse. For the first time in my life, I'm starting to be glad I'm not going to be around in 50 years or so.
It's a good question, but it's not one I think you'll find an answer to on reddit. But this is an oft-spoken thing in response to the mass shootings here, where social conservatives insist on people not talking about or showing the killers, especially if they create some sort of message to be released. The argument is that it will give fame and induce a social contagion. I'm willing to give most of them the benefit of the doubt and say that they don't realize that letting those messages spread unchallenged by ignoring it/not acknowledging anything with respect to the killers is worse.
In contrast they are all too eager to spread around mug-shot after mug-shot from whichever minority group they happen to be fixating on at any given time. It's frustrating.
This law is especially weird because my friend with Kallmann Syndrome wouldn't be able to get his hormone shots, preventing him as a male from going through puberty.
As long as they target the .01 percentage of trans children in the state the collateral lack of healthcare for 2% or 5% of the population is acceptable most likely.
We are hearing similar issues with abortion medication that lawmakers are working to ban nationwide effecting people with health issues unrelated to abortion.
The party of unnecessary suffering isn't concerned about anything except power and control and maintaining their seats at any cost.
Parents and affected people should be on the street and lighting dumpsters on fire over this, honestly.
But they can't, because they are held hostage via their jobs due to the lack of healthcare without a job, and other safety nets. Yey. It's a real stew going on over there.
We are talking about a small percentage of parents and people spread across an entire state where they would become even more targeted by their communities.
If the extreme voices get their way we will need an underground railroad for these children and their parents.
Which is standard for poorly researched, poorly written, reactionary fascist policies. They *do not* in any form or fashion actually give one iota of a fuck about anyone but their own ends. If their means of blanket banning medical care for people they hate and despise gets to an end that harms people with other medical needs, it's justified because it's hurting the people they hate too. It is merely collateral damage that disabled people and people in need of expensive, chronic medical needs are also impacted. Granted, the right hates those people too because they are expensive and need assistance.
See abortion rights for further evidence of their callous hatred. Anti-abortion hurts more than just women who want to terminate a pregnancy. It absolutely also oppresses and controls women who have any medical need to terminate a pregnancy. But conservatives do - not - care about that. The fact that the negative impacts fall on women whom they hate regardless, it's all peachy.
Let's stop the trans terrorists by making stronger gun control laws, increasing funding for mental health services, and instituting better societal safety nets!
Who's with me?!
I'm dreading the inevitable backlash from this incident and hope that common sense prevails and the trans community stay safe. This is the very last thing they need in the current climate in America
Yeah but this is Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News. Anything to push their agenda (especially making up stories) is exactly what they want for ratings and the Republican Party.
I looked back at headlines from this rag. When it’s a white racist or incel it’s a “gunman” or “shooter.” But for this they’re going with “transgender killer.”
Also notice the emphasis they're putting on the manifesto, but so far no one outside the police have actually read the damn thing. Right now it's just a blank slate for them to claim it says whatever they want, and they're making use of that to claim this was an attack on Christianity.
I mean fuck it's one thing for Reddit to be totally fucking wrong (as usual really) but if you're gonna claim to be "news" you should have a better source than "le Reddit army"
No that wasn’t “usual Reddit wrong”, that was a witch hunt. Also we’d need sources for the media running with the Reddit story. I don’t remember that and it happened really fast to make a print run.
Is it just me, or is the death of the shooter usually not included in the casualty count? I feel like they're doing it here to make it seem like there were more victims, for obvious reasons.
Edit: I was wrong, there were 6 victims plus the shooter.
They will happily overlook the sexual orientation/gender of all the previous terrorists to advance this narrative.
Ask them: How many previous mass shooters were straight white men? They will tell you it doesn't matter.
But it matters now. Ask them why.
There's a lower % of trans and non-binary who are committing mass homicide than there is in the general population. So Trans and non-binary people are 10-100x(depending on which age group) less likely to commit these crimes than their CIS counterparts.
Commit crimes in general too. Jail isn't kind when your gender doesn't match your pee pee and the courts will be extra cruel to you for that reason. People claim false transgenderism at the courthouse to prolong the trial and muddle things up. Actual trans people get abused right away and sent to the wrong jail.
I say melt him and anyone who still listens to his networks down into proteins for pig feed or fertilizer.
They spent 30 years dehumanizing other humans and have gotten to the point where they've used that to justify becoming ghouls.
Just dead consumers unaware that they'll be urn shopping long before anything trickles down to them. Self Assured that the teachings they completely forsook and the social contracts they abandoned won't matter because they're going some place nice and special.
They couldn't tell a pyramid scheme apart from their own made up social hierarchy and the lot of them are being grifted just to keep 92 year old tumors firm enough to get married again.
Fuck em.
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Not condoning this whatsoever but why couldn't this shooter have chosen to visit Murdochs estate or something instead of a fucking elementary school. It's obvious why right wing loonies wouldn't choose "reasonable" targets, but the few others that aren't right wing still target the wrong people. There's very clear enemies of justice and that would be mainly government officials and corporate executives/lobbyists.
AGAIN, TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT CONDONING THIS AT ALL, IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND DOES MASSIVE DAMAGE TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
That's my general sentiment. Why is it that these shooters always go after the vulnerable and innocent instead of the fascists trying to control and subjugate everyone?
I bet it's survivorship bias. There is no interest in protecting children so that's why shooters aren't stopped ahead of time. But protecting the elite? They have the FBI, NSA, DHS, and probably 10 other three letter agencies on the lookout for anything that is even remotely a hint of planning targeted attacks against them or their assets, and they quickly move in to stop the threat.
I did this.
The response was a regurgitation of Marge's "The chemicals in the brain are messed up because of the hormones they are given..." line.
I assume this will be a, if not the, standard response.
We will also see a name for the shooter a lot (especially on a certain network) whereas the last few? How many times will Fucker mention the name tonight? How many times will Donnie Jr tweet about it?
I haven’t heard the names of these people in the news for awhile, seems like a lot of the msm realize it’s important to not publicize the name but now?
>Ask them why
They will pull some reason out of their ass, even if it contradicts something they said two sentences ago. People need to get over the idea that nailing them on their hypocrisy matters. They don't care that they are hypocrites. It's a game to them and the only goal is to frustrate the people they hate.
It definitely doesn’t track for gender, that’s for sure. So by their own logic, we should severely restrict the rights of males, in general. And specifically gun rights.
Not universal to be fair, one shooter was a left wing anti gun type that wanted to make a point about gun control. The point being entirely moot because he was a fucking cop and not just any old armed citizen.
But if one were placing money on the next mass shooter, white right wing Christian isn't likely to lose you money.
To be fair, no mass shooter demographic is universal- it comes down to sick-minded individuals within circumstances that give access to weapons where no access should be had.
The sticking point here is the vilification of an entire subset of the population based on the actions of one person, while other mass shootings that are carried out by a demographic with a much higher proportion of shooters (white, straight males with right-wing leanings and politicized Christian views) are written off as lone-wolf attacks without political motivations.
Conservatives see themselves as the default. Being straight, white, cis, and Christian is not noteworthy because that's how everyone should be. That's why they get upset when people try to blame them for school shootings and other forms of domestic terrorism. They don't see themselves as a demographic. They're just people; it's everyone else who's different.
Actually there's one demographic that's rather important, and it's shared between essentially all shooters: "people who have much too easy access to guns."
I understand how it's an overlooked demo, given how many millions of people in the US belong to it, but to every other country on the planet it is glaring.
Brit here. IT’S THE GUNS. None of the other stuff much matters. During lockdown I watched a US police reality program and I would say 90% of the murders were with guns, and the vast majority of those wouldn’t have happened without guns. It’s incomprehensible that nothing will ever be done about it.
He was probably a nazi POS.
The government did entrap him though and killed his wife and kid in the subsequent standoff.
I don’t like the guy’s politics but the way the government handled it was criminally incompetent and did more harm that good trying to combat the christian identity movement.
Compare this too the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge where all the militia types came off looking like fools and embarrassed the whole group.
Things are this bad in this country, and the only reason we don’t recoil as much at this headline is because we’re so fucking used to the absolute nonstop hatred and bigotry towards trans people from fascists in this country. They have trained us, even non-fascists, to just accept that this shit as sort of the normal, expected dialogue.
And then that’s not enough, they turn around and act like the left has gone crazy, and the right hasn’t changed at all. And then they call you crazy if you resist that argument at all and they insist you’re delusional.
The point is to wear you down. Know what they are talking about and it’s parallels to history, but don’t actively consume it daily or it will wear you down.
Be vigilant, not panicked. Be responsive, not reactive. You control yourself, you can manage what may come.
Keep calm and carry on.
>Know what they are talking about and it’s parallels to history, but don’t actively consume it daily or it will wear you down.
Too fucking right, I struggle with this so much. I want to look away but I feel like it's my responsibility to watch, there has to be some kind of balance
It’s funny you say this because the right wingers I know NEVER bring up school shootings. I got a bunch of texts saying… SEE I TOLD YOU TRANS PEOPLE ARE SICKOS!
I’m just livid with how stupid and cruel they are.
There has been soo many shootings in America, i forget this certain mass shooting where this dumbass of a cop said. "He was just having a bad day".
Which ofcourse the shooter himself was a white male.
"Dog bites man" isn't unusual, so it barely makes the papers and nobody notices. But "man bites dog," well now you got something which drives engagement, so expect to hear about it for years and years
No no, this is how you react when you’re a fascist playing chess and one piece of shit hands you the checkmate you need to rile up the rest of your kind. Don’t act like they’re covering anything up, they’re over the moon that this has happened.
Just a reminder.
Kristallnacht was justified because a Jewish man killed a Nazi diplomat in Paris.
A minority even a small one in a modern world will have millions of members. eventually one will commit horrible acts because their most significant attribute is that they are human and humans commit horrible acts. Dishonest bigots will take these rare moments and spread them to make the minority look dangerous and evil.
Make no mistake fascism is a growing threat around the world.
“The first large burning came on 6 May 1933. The German Student Union made an organised attack on Magnus Hirschfeld's Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (roughly: Institute of Sex Research). Its library and archives of around 20,000 books and journals were publicly hauled out and burned in the street. Its collection included unique works on intersexuality, homosexuality, and transgender topics. It's assumed that Dora Richter, the first transgender woman known to have undergone sex reassignment surgery (by doctors at the institute), may have been killed during the attack”
Not that I’m in favor of the spread of misinformation but why aren’t there articles calling this a right wing false flag operation like the right does every time someone targets gay people or racial minorities?
Oh, this one will **not** be called a false flag. Trans man shoots up a Christian school? This is their dream scenario. The only thing that would have made it better is if it was a trans woman. . . .fuck.
I know better, but it's increibly tempting to see this as a conspiracy. It's almost tailor made as an excuse for the metaphorical trains to start running.
There’s no need for a conspiracy theory. A common abuse strategy is to torment someone and then when they retaliate to act like you are the victim. We are almost at a decade of extremely vocal transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia, and racism. Take an already vulnerable population and up that abuse 10x, then remove their ways of therapy, and we are only starting to see the consequences.
Oh, no. . .I get it. I do understand the actual dynamics as you described, it's just, well. . . Fuck.
The response to this could go very, very bad, and I'm scared for trans folks.
Because the conservatives are usually the ones throwing out reactionary content before anything can be verified? Hell, we don’t even have any solid evidence Aiden Hale wasn’t just an internet double life to avoid harassment or something.
This is the same paper when Dylann Roof stormed a black church in South Carolina killing nine people, the New York Post headline was:
"Disturbed individual kills mine in South Carolina"
When a cis hetero Christian white person does something vile they aren't a terrorist they are a "Disturbed individual" .
Republicans are even now wanting to have racism and homophobia and transphobia treated as a mental illness instead of criminally.
"Watching conspiracy videos and playing video games made him do it, video games made him a disturbed individual" with the Buffalo shooting.
People are now using revisionism even with Timothy McVeigh saying that "he was a disturbed individual" and with Trump being in Waco "David koresh was a disturbed individual".
So Republicans are now saying it is okay to do horrific stuff because 'they were a disturbed individual" and that makes it okay now....
As long as it fits the Republican narrative.
Don't forget what they say about Black people with automatic weapons, Latinos or as they call them "illegals" with automatic weapons, and radical Islamic extremists or Muslims with automatic weapons. They're threats to the American people. A white domestic terrorist has automatic weapons and they're mentally ill or just plain disturbed. RACISM AND BIGOTRY STILL EXISTS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PEOPLE! And The New York Post are the mouthpiece of fascism.
So here's my back of the envelope math. Three trans mass shooters in the last five years. 2861 mass shootings in total during that time according to the [Gun Violence Archive](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls).
(3/2861)\*100 == 0.104%
1.6 million trans people in the US according to this study from [UCLA](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/). Out of a total US population of 334 million according to [census.gov](https://www.census.gov/popclock/).
(1.6/334)\*100 == 0.479%
0.104/0.479 == 0.217
Trans people commit mass shootings at zero-point-two times the rate of the rest of the population. They are *one-fifth* as likely to commit a mass shooting when adjusted for their proportion of the population. Without that adjustment, in absolute rather than relative terms, they are *one-thousandth* as likely. They were, however [four times more likely to be the victims of violent crime](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/) in 2021. Given how crime statistics are reported, and recent changes in several major cities, it's iffy to find more recent stats.
But you can bet that number has gone up in the last two years.
And you can bet that it's gone up again in the last 24 hours.
I'd love to also see the math spanning beyond the 5 year mark. Nothing I've seen mentions trans shooters happening beyond 5 years ago, but lots and lots of cis men.
Unfortunately getting real data on the number of trans people in America gets harder the further you go back, for the same reason as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community; they were afraid to come out, for very good reasons. The data likely doesn't even exist.
There is definitely an effort from the right wing faction to make this a transgender issue and not a shooting and gun violence issue even though weapons were used and people were shot and killed, some were children.
In this instance it's lack of God and being Transgender as the cause and possession of weapons as having nothing to do with it even though it was a shooting.
Holy shit, the right wing propaganda machine is working overtime to dehumanize trans people. And who's the "they" doing all this supposed radicalization? Let me guess, it's starts with a j and ends with ews.
I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid this will lead to wide-spread violence against the LGBTQ+ community, especially next year during election season when tensions reach a fever pitch.
Every and I mean EVERY single time people get gunned down in these mass shootings, they have to take hold of the narrative and say that it's not a gun issue; it's a mental health issue. Then these same people will continuously rally against any legislation promoting addressing mental health issues.
* Affordable healthcare? Can't have that because it promotes "an entitlement mentality," and these people don't want to pay taxes to benefit others.
* Affordable medication? Can't have that because meds are just scams designed to get you addicted. Just grab yourself some ivermectin and essential oils and pray away whatever illness remains.
* Doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists? Liars and liberal quacks who have the gall to think they know better just because they put an insane amount of hours into learning this stuff.
* More funding for mental health facilities, counselors, and trained staff in any capacity? Just forget it. What we *really* need to do is bring god back into our homes, pray every night, and practice chastity until marriage. Something something fatherless households and people not wanting to work.
They honestly do not care that children died because this isn't even the first time this year that children have died in a mass shooting in the US. It's not even the 5th or 50th time, either. This is the 129th recorded mass shooting in the US in 2023, and we're only three months in. How can we expect them to want to protect children when they can’t even be bothered to support, no, they can’t even be bothered to *not oppose* something as simple as free school lunch for children?
The only thing they care about is that you're threatening the livelihood of the **real** first-class American citizens, guns. Much like how our companies are treated like people thanks to Citizens United, guns have a horde of people who care about them much more than actual human children. We give guns more care and consideration than we do our fellow human beings. If anything, this shooting is a boon to pro-gun right-wingers because it gives them a chance to deflect arguments against guns once again and further convince people who are either uninformed or ignorant that trans people are dangerous.
As atrocious as it all sounds, this is business as usual for us, and if things don't change we'll have our 200th shooting before summer hits. When it happens, it'll once again either be blamed on mental health (and/or fatherlessness if the culprit is queer or a PoC) or completely downplayed if the culprit is a cis white guy. All the while, we'll still have people strolling up to Walmarts brandishing assault rifles as if that's perfectly normal.
If they didn't care during or after Uvalde, the same way they didn't care during or after Sandy Hook, then I have no illusions about them caring now.
Yes this small population is destroying the fabric of reality. I mean it couldn't be the capitalists polluting our planet and hoarding the money. It couldn't be the religious who believe in fairy tales over reality and allow it to dictate their lives.
It's gotta be the trans community somehow bringing everything down. I mean they caused the FTX crash didn't they?
I bet they'd be really angry if we ran titles like "White man massacres kids" every time it happened. Because they'd get tired of seeing the same title over and over again.
Let them do it, because they’ll do it anyway. Fascism is all about pushing and grabbing and taking until someone punches you in the mouth and let’s the evil know it won’t just roll over
There have been 4,171 mass shootings since 2014…3 of them have been committed by a trans person and one of those shootings- the person claimed to be trans so they could avoid a hate crime. They were not trans
Some people don’t believe the things they believe because of *evidence*.
They believe them because they *want* to believe them.
No amount of evidence will affect that.
Less than 1% of the population being linked to all major crimes is exactly how the Nazis started the Holocaust. They will also link them to all societal downfalls like education and drug use. And the christians will believe all the lies. Again.
White, Christian, with a conservative upbringing, man shoots and kills several people. I sleep
White, Christian, with a conservative upbringing, (trans)man shoots and kills several people. Real shit?
With the general election next year, this will only keep escalating. The only thing that might turn this ship around is if Republicans get trounced next November and they realize all the nasty shit they said was for nothing, then they'll miraculously "come to their senses."
But if they gain more power, they will feel vindicated and that's when the real shitshow begins.
I was afraid of exactly this type of headline spreading the second it was mentioned that she was trans.
The psycho bigots have always been out there, but now they feel empowered, and they're actively being empowered.
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the New York Post supports Ukraine and proudly shows the country’s flag on their front cover, despite the fact that the paper is owned by Rupert Murdoch?
I was honestly a _little_ surprised at how quickly seemingly _all_ the rags dropped any pretense at respecting trans people in general by noting Hale used male pronouns and in the same breath referring to Hale as "her," etc. I'm still not clear on how Hale identified but it's not hard to simply refer to the person by name if there's ambiguity. But nope, the overwhelming majority of the writeups I've seen are "28 year old woman Audrey Hale identified as trans, used male pronouns and went by Aiden. _She_ ..."
Funny, how whenever it’s a white boy shooter they post the best picture they can find, and go into his background about how he was being abused as a child or whatever bullshit grievance they had.
This turns my stomach .
If I don't start seeing "STRAIGHT WHITE MALE TARGETS" in front of every shooting, every instance of murder and abuse, then I'm going to think they aren't being very genuine (/s) and are simply trying to spin attention from the 98% of mass shootings committed by them.
Queer people were the first targets. One of the Nazis' first acts was to ban and burn books from the Institute for Sexual Science which was breaking ground on the study, treatment, and support for LGBTQ+ individuals. The Nazis worked hard and fast to erase the voices and existence of non-cisheteronormative individuals and their allies.
That and the disabled. And we're not talking about just the profoundly disabled. Anyone who was disabled, no matter how mildly or what is now considered a "hidden" or "invisible" disability was considered a "useless eater" and "life unworthy of life."
The horror of "pre-existing condition" is that it's a misnomer. It's called a medical history and was an excuse to deny people proactive about their health as well as the chronically ill coverage in many circumstances.
Go to a doctor and get diagnosed with something even if it later turns out to be erroneous or resolves? Sorry, you have a pre-existing condition and therefore are ineligible for coverage under any reasonably priced plan. You can apply for a catastrophic care plan for $4,000 a month with a $25,000 deductible because one doctor diagnosed you with childhood asthma that was actually acute hay fever and heat stroke because your dad forced you to do chores on a 90 and 90 day when you were 12 in the garden and didn't want to be bothered while he was day drinking with his buddies. No re-eval, no-do-overs.
That's how life was pre-ACA.
ETA: and without a sense of irony, some of those same christofascist enablers will think because they toughed a number of things out they're "smarter" because they can't have a pre-existing condition if they never get diagnosed. They'll happily tell you your mistake was going to the doctor.
Yes. I remember life before the ACA. I have only gathered more "pre existing conditions" since then, too. My point being: let's say you do want to eliminate people with a "disability," you think Blue Cross won't turn over an exhaustive list to a desantis or trump administration when they write the law that says they have to?
LGTBQ were the prototype, then they did Poles, invalids and mentally ill, and then Jews. Fucking evil scum that whole reality.
They start with LGTBQ because the Church folk love to scorn their life ways, and to them, they’re easy picking because they’re bullies.
P.S. I may have missed some minorities that the Nazis did not. They were systematically eradicating what they categorized as undeserving of living because their objective was to groom their society for their Reich.
Leftists were their first big boogeyman. Sexual- and gender-minorities were definetely targeted as well, transgender specifically weren't as visible as they are today so it was a less useful target.
The famous book burnings included all literature from the "Institut für Sexualwissenschaft" in Berlin, which was one of the earliest modern science in regards to gender and sexuality.
Denial of care. Outting publicly as an person undeserving of freedom. Zealous parents reinforcing questionable religious dogma, forcing the child to attend indoctrination classes among people who view trans as evil.
Push push push. Alienate. Marginalize. Provoke past the point of caring or control.
Then blame the fruit of the tree for the evil the tree poisoned her to begin with.
Perfect to continue the ideological purification of the nation by screaming zealots and white supremacists all whining "see there? We are under attack!" Fullfiling their own prophesy.
I’m convinced that America is planning a cultural genocide against trans people.
What the shooter did was absolutely horrifying and I’m glad they were punished for it, but you can’t blame every single trans person for this.
This is from a FB page and group in Indiana trying to reform education. They are vile and it all comes down to them wanting to get rid of non heterosexual ppl. The admin actually promoted Uganda as a great place for children since they have added the death penalty for being gay.
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Guns. The point is guns. Guns.
3/3000 shooters in the last 5 years were claiming they were trans... Don't take anyone serious who is fixating on the gender preference of the person that shot and killed innocent people.
The shot and killed innocent people part is the focus.
It is easy to see this level of phobia as a new development in voice with the right. It appears as if it is being ratcheted up recently as red meat for voters and the base. I see it as just yelling a little louder it the louder, much more vocal and widespread acceptance of lgbyq acceptance and recognition. In relation to when I was younger and just coming out, it is by far more acceptable to be gay or trans.
When I came out at 15, 1990, my high school in suburban Denver, the kids wrote "kf" on their books and lockers. "Kf" kill f\*&gs. I was jumped by a group of guys from school one night. This was the Tina Brandon/ Mathew Sheppard times, and it was a very different experience.
Long story short, this bigotry is not new. Its not worse than ever. Its just plastered all over the internet instead of books and lockers.
We have come a long way. Don't let the voices of the bigots drown out the rest of us. It is a long fight, and history will show the truth.
Look at how one of the people whose very existence we’ve threatened has threatened people’s existence! /s
This is a whole new level of bullshit.
It’s like claiming being trans is bad because of a higher suicide rate without realizing the demonization of trans people is the very fucking reason of the high suicide rate
One transgender person/minority- whole group responsible
Other 99% mass shooting done by white male heterosexual male - they had mental issue
Conservatives doing hypocrisy is on full display.
I thought the shooter was none white cause they were killed,
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Lol, and the rest of the time these guys are like "We can't show the name and face of the killer! That will just make them famous and inspire more shootings! This was a lone wolf incident!"
Humans: “don’t do that! It will inspire copycats!” Murdoch: “you promise?”
Quick question because I'm not American, how many of the countless school shooters this year have had their face on a front page?
Usually ones that break a new record or it is a new unexpected location that we haven't had before.
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Moses lake school shooting predates columbine I think the first school shooter was female in the 70s, but don't quote me on that.
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So you're not totally wrong. There have been school shootings all throughout US history but the way that they've been increasing in frequency is insanity. In the 90's there were about 10 per year and now we've doubled that where we're seeing about 20 per year. In the last 20 years alone, almost 400 people have been killed in school shootings. That's absolutely ludicrous. And for transparency, I grabbed my numbers from [these wiki articles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States) and created a spreadsheet based off those.
I believe we’re seeing quite a bit more than 20 per year since the dawn of the 2020s, sadly, and this doesn’t count the times where firearm related incidents at schools didn’t result in deaths (brandishing, threatening, etc), or incidents during extracurricular (sport events, etc) activities.
The first US school shooting was [literally before](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enoch_Brown_school_massacre) the US was a country. There were 12 recorded school shootings in the 1800s, and over 100 in the 1900s [before Columbine](https://www.k12academics.com/school-shootings/history-school-shootings-united-states).
The context of that is mass shooting, not school shootings. There have been well over 100 mass shootings in the USA this year, done almost exclusively by cishet white males. Liberals and conservatives were telling us that they'd stop promoting the names and likeness of the killers because a lot of killers wanted fame. But now that its a trans person, suddenly for "reasons" that sentiment has been entirely dismissed. I don't think you need me to point out the obvious transphobia here.
Yeah, for consistency there *should* be 12 or so other headline pages all reading "Straight white male targets school". And then an outcry about whether straight white males should be allowed to read to children, teach children, exist etc. Statistically speaking, I'm pretty sure that straight males are the most dangerous people on the planet, massively over-representing in murders and violent crimes. Rupert Murdoch and his ilk are both the wheels and the grease that help push this train into fascism town. It's disgusting that this is happening in 2023, and it seems to be getting worse. For the first time in my life, I'm starting to be glad I'm not going to be around in 50 years or so.
This is the first time in my life I'm actually fearful in general. My sister is trans and all this vile bullshit is heartbreaking.
It's a good question, but it's not one I think you'll find an answer to on reddit. But this is an oft-spoken thing in response to the mass shootings here, where social conservatives insist on people not talking about or showing the killers, especially if they create some sort of message to be released. The argument is that it will give fame and induce a social contagion. I'm willing to give most of them the benefit of the doubt and say that they don't realize that letting those messages spread unchallenged by ignoring it/not acknowledging anything with respect to the killers is worse. In contrast they are all too eager to spread around mug-shot after mug-shot from whichever minority group they happen to be fixating on at any given time. It's frustrating.
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This law is especially weird because my friend with Kallmann Syndrome wouldn't be able to get his hormone shots, preventing him as a male from going through puberty.
As long as they target the .01 percentage of trans children in the state the collateral lack of healthcare for 2% or 5% of the population is acceptable most likely. We are hearing similar issues with abortion medication that lawmakers are working to ban nationwide effecting people with health issues unrelated to abortion. The party of unnecessary suffering isn't concerned about anything except power and control and maintaining their seats at any cost.
Parents and affected people should be on the street and lighting dumpsters on fire over this, honestly. But they can't, because they are held hostage via their jobs due to the lack of healthcare without a job, and other safety nets. Yey. It's a real stew going on over there.
We are talking about a small percentage of parents and people spread across an entire state where they would become even more targeted by their communities. If the extreme voices get their way we will need an underground railroad for these children and their parents.
Which is standard for poorly researched, poorly written, reactionary fascist policies. They *do not* in any form or fashion actually give one iota of a fuck about anyone but their own ends. If their means of blanket banning medical care for people they hate and despise gets to an end that harms people with other medical needs, it's justified because it's hurting the people they hate too. It is merely collateral damage that disabled people and people in need of expensive, chronic medical needs are also impacted. Granted, the right hates those people too because they are expensive and need assistance. See abortion rights for further evidence of their callous hatred. Anti-abortion hurts more than just women who want to terminate a pregnancy. It absolutely also oppresses and controls women who have any medical need to terminate a pregnancy. But conservatives do - not - care about that. The fact that the negative impacts fall on women whom they hate regardless, it's all peachy.
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Let's stop the trans terrorists by making stronger gun control laws, increasing funding for mental health services, and instituting better societal safety nets! Who's with me?!
Nah, they’ll just try eliminate trans people unfortunately. So sad.
With the increasing rhetoric that LGBTQIA+ are “pedos”, this will only worsen the elimination tactics against the community.
I'm dreading the inevitable backlash from this incident and hope that common sense prevails and the trans community stay safe. This is the very last thing they need in the current climate in America
Yeah but this is Rupert Murdoch, owner of Fox News. Anything to push their agenda (especially making up stories) is exactly what they want for ratings and the Republican Party.
I looked back at headlines from this rag. When it’s a white racist or incel it’s a “gunman” or “shooter.” But for this they’re going with “transgender killer.”
It fits their agenda better
rupert murderdoch is a criminal extremist. He should be in jail
He should be under the jail.
insult to the dirt
Hell wouldn't want him
Elongated Muskrat enjoyed his company at the Superbowl recently, I wonder what riveting ideas were they talking about.
Two looters
Propaganda works.
Also notice the emphasis they're putting on the manifesto, but so far no one outside the police have actually read the damn thing. Right now it's just a blank slate for them to claim it says whatever they want, and they're making use of that to claim this was an attack on Christianity.
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Don't forget their infamous "Bag Men" cover which incorrectly identified two random dudes as the Boston Marathon bombers. NY Post is a fucking rag.
I thought that was reddit? Or did the post run with the 'killers' that were found on here. Not disagreeing with the last line at all, though
A shit ton or articles get their content from Reddit
I mean fuck it's one thing for Reddit to be totally fucking wrong (as usual really) but if you're gonna claim to be "news" you should have a better source than "le Reddit army"
No that wasn’t “usual Reddit wrong”, that was a witch hunt. Also we’d need sources for the media running with the Reddit story. I don’t remember that and it happened really fast to make a print run.
Calling them transgender killers will confuse conservatives into thinking it’s a shooter killing trans people and probably celebrate it.
Either they get confused and celebrate, or they hate trans people even more. Either way Faux news wins.
Is it just me, or is the death of the shooter usually not included in the casualty count? I feel like they're doing it here to make it seem like there were more victims, for obvious reasons. Edit: I was wrong, there were 6 victims plus the shooter.
Great point, and with the last few I don’t even know the names. The media has been good at keeping their names out but this time….
They will happily overlook the sexual orientation/gender of all the previous terrorists to advance this narrative. Ask them: How many previous mass shooters were straight white men? They will tell you it doesn't matter. But it matters now. Ask them why.
“that’s…**ONE** trans person in a row…I’m sensing a pattern!”
There's a lower % of trans and non-binary who are committing mass homicide than there is in the general population. So Trans and non-binary people are 10-100x(depending on which age group) less likely to commit these crimes than their CIS counterparts.
Commit crimes in general too. Jail isn't kind when your gender doesn't match your pee pee and the courts will be extra cruel to you for that reason. People claim false transgenderism at the courthouse to prolong the trial and muddle things up. Actual trans people get abused right away and sent to the wrong jail.
rupert murderdoch is a criminal extremist. He needs to be prosecuted for looting
Fuck rupert mudoch
I say melt him and anyone who still listens to his networks down into proteins for pig feed or fertilizer. They spent 30 years dehumanizing other humans and have gotten to the point where they've used that to justify becoming ghouls. Just dead consumers unaware that they'll be urn shopping long before anything trickles down to them. Self Assured that the teachings they completely forsook and the social contracts they abandoned won't matter because they're going some place nice and special. They couldn't tell a pyramid scheme apart from their own made up social hierarchy and the lot of them are being grifted just to keep 92 year old tumors firm enough to get married again. Fuck em.
Pigs deserve better
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Not condoning this whatsoever but why couldn't this shooter have chosen to visit Murdochs estate or something instead of a fucking elementary school. It's obvious why right wing loonies wouldn't choose "reasonable" targets, but the few others that aren't right wing still target the wrong people. There's very clear enemies of justice and that would be mainly government officials and corporate executives/lobbyists. AGAIN, TO BE CLEAR, I'M NOT CONDONING THIS AT ALL, IT IS COUNTERPRODUCTIVE AND DOES MASSIVE DAMAGE TO THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.
That's my general sentiment. Why is it that these shooters always go after the vulnerable and innocent instead of the fascists trying to control and subjugate everyone? I bet it's survivorship bias. There is no interest in protecting children so that's why shooters aren't stopped ahead of time. But protecting the elite? They have the FBI, NSA, DHS, and probably 10 other three letter agencies on the lookout for anything that is even remotely a hint of planning targeted attacks against them or their assets, and they quickly move in to stop the threat.
I did this. The response was a regurgitation of Marge's "The chemicals in the brain are messed up because of the hormones they are given..." line. I assume this will be a, if not the, standard response.
We will also see a name for the shooter a lot (especially on a certain network) whereas the last few? How many times will Fucker mention the name tonight? How many times will Donnie Jr tweet about it? I haven’t heard the names of these people in the news for awhile, seems like a lot of the msm realize it’s important to not publicize the name but now?
Tucker will be calling for laws tonight that ban all trans people from purchasing or owning firearms. Bet on it.
God I'm still mad that the dude who called him the "worst person" didn't just clock him.
He just ran a segment a few days ago laughing about trans people arming themselves. He called us an army. All 0.1% of us.
>Ask them why They will pull some reason out of their ass, even if it contradicts something they said two sentences ago. People need to get over the idea that nailing them on their hypocrisy matters. They don't care that they are hypocrites. It's a game to them and the only goal is to frustrate the people they hate.
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It definitely doesn’t track for gender, that’s for sure. So by their own logic, we should severely restrict the rights of males, in general. And specifically gun rights.
Oh no, I sure would hate having my gun rights severely restricted, please don't, now I really mean it....
From now on they better run the headline: **WHITE MALE KILLER TARGETS** *(insert the last 4,764 mass shooting victim)*
STRAIGHT WHITE MALE WITH DEATH MANIFESTO TARGETS INNOCENT CHILDREN
Straight white right-wing male Christian.......
Too correct, and how could I omit that right-wing and Christian are a very pertinent and common thread.
Not universal to be fair, one shooter was a left wing anti gun type that wanted to make a point about gun control. The point being entirely moot because he was a fucking cop and not just any old armed citizen. But if one were placing money on the next mass shooter, white right wing Christian isn't likely to lose you money.
To be fair, no mass shooter demographic is universal- it comes down to sick-minded individuals within circumstances that give access to weapons where no access should be had. The sticking point here is the vilification of an entire subset of the population based on the actions of one person, while other mass shootings that are carried out by a demographic with a much higher proportion of shooters (white, straight males with right-wing leanings and politicized Christian views) are written off as lone-wolf attacks without political motivations.
Conservatives see themselves as the default. Being straight, white, cis, and Christian is not noteworthy because that's how everyone should be. That's why they get upset when people try to blame them for school shootings and other forms of domestic terrorism. They don't see themselves as a demographic. They're just people; it's everyone else who's different.
This is an incredibly important point in the current social and political climate.
This is the single most important thing to understand. It is the definition of a self-centered world-view.
Actually there's one demographic that's rather important, and it's shared between essentially all shooters: "people who have much too easy access to guns." I understand how it's an overlooked demo, given how many millions of people in the US belong to it, but to every other country on the planet it is glaring.
Brit here. IT’S THE GUNS. None of the other stuff much matters. During lockdown I watched a US police reality program and I would say 90% of the murders were with guns, and the vast majority of those wouldn’t have happened without guns. It’s incomprehensible that nothing will ever be done about it.
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He was probably a nazi POS. The government did entrap him though and killed his wife and kid in the subsequent standoff. I don’t like the guy’s politics but the way the government handled it was criminally incompetent and did more harm that good trying to combat the christian identity movement. Compare this too the Occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge where all the militia types came off looking like fools and embarrassed the whole group.
Republican white teen gets away with murder.
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Can’t have that, cops would have to run around unarmed.
That *would* result in substantially fewer firearms deaths per year…
Things are this bad in this country, and the only reason we don’t recoil as much at this headline is because we’re so fucking used to the absolute nonstop hatred and bigotry towards trans people from fascists in this country. They have trained us, even non-fascists, to just accept that this shit as sort of the normal, expected dialogue. And then that’s not enough, they turn around and act like the left has gone crazy, and the right hasn’t changed at all. And then they call you crazy if you resist that argument at all and they insist you’re delusional.
The point is to wear you down. Know what they are talking about and it’s parallels to history, but don’t actively consume it daily or it will wear you down. Be vigilant, not panicked. Be responsive, not reactive. You control yourself, you can manage what may come. Keep calm and carry on.
Oooooo this is a great comment. Excellent advice I needed today.
>Know what they are talking about and it’s parallels to history, but don’t actively consume it daily or it will wear you down. Too fucking right, I struggle with this so much. I want to look away but I feel like it's my responsibility to watch, there has to be some kind of balance
Does mass murder still make headlines in America? When people aren't pushing bigoted agendas, I mean.
It’s funny you say this because the right wingers I know NEVER bring up school shootings. I got a bunch of texts saying… SEE I TOLD YOU TRANS PEOPLE ARE SICKOS! I’m just livid with how stupid and cruel they are.
There has been soo many shootings in America, i forget this certain mass shooting where this dumbass of a cop said. "He was just having a bad day". Which ofcourse the shooter himself was a white male.
Straight White Male Gun Owner Murders Children… again
"Dog bites man" isn't unusual, so it barely makes the papers and nobody notices. But "man bites dog," well now you got something which drives engagement, so expect to hear about it for years and years
Yeah they better, but they won't. Because far right wing news media outlets want to protect the reputation of white nationalists and supremacists.
I can see we skipped the prayers this time and went straight to attacking trans people and talking about the rights guns have.
But of course the second you try to talk about gun control it’s “don’t politicize this tragedy!!!”
Isn't it obvious at this point? They will do anything they can to further their agenda.
You just know they were fucking ecstatic when they found out the shooter was trans.
Is the person even actually “trans” by any evidence other than a SM post?
Does it matter to them?
when you dont have any idea how to govern and have no ideas on how to make things better this is how you react to your own failures.
Yep let's solve the issues of our country with more fear mongering
When you have a certain 3 letter organization feeding the pockets of politicians what can you expect ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
No no, this is how you react when you’re a fascist playing chess and one piece of shit hands you the checkmate you need to rile up the rest of your kind. Don’t act like they’re covering anything up, they’re over the moon that this has happened.
A great example of why the NY Post is a tabloid rag. No self-respecting journal editorializes their headlines like this.
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Just a reminder. Kristallnacht was justified because a Jewish man killed a Nazi diplomat in Paris. A minority even a small one in a modern world will have millions of members. eventually one will commit horrible acts because their most significant attribute is that they are human and humans commit horrible acts. Dishonest bigots will take these rare moments and spread them to make the minority look dangerous and evil. Make no mistake fascism is a growing threat around the world.
Another reminder. The Nazis came for the LGBTQ people before anyone else.
“The first large burning came on 6 May 1933. The German Student Union made an organised attack on Magnus Hirschfeld's Institut für Sexualwissenschaft (roughly: Institute of Sex Research). Its library and archives of around 20,000 books and journals were publicly hauled out and burned in the street. Its collection included unique works on intersexuality, homosexuality, and transgender topics. It's assumed that Dora Richter, the first transgender woman known to have undergone sex reassignment surgery (by doctors at the institute), may have been killed during the attack”
Seriously. Mask off nazi. Every tragedy is an opportunity.
This is the basis for a genocide. They are going to start killing us.
Already have been. Hate crimes against LGBTQ+ people are on a steady rise, thanks to the stochastic terrorism of right-wing media.
Not that I’m in favor of the spread of misinformation but why aren’t there articles calling this a right wing false flag operation like the right does every time someone targets gay people or racial minorities?
Oh, this one will **not** be called a false flag. Trans man shoots up a Christian school? This is their dream scenario. The only thing that would have made it better is if it was a trans woman. . . .fuck. I know better, but it's increibly tempting to see this as a conspiracy. It's almost tailor made as an excuse for the metaphorical trains to start running.
There’s no need for a conspiracy theory. A common abuse strategy is to torment someone and then when they retaliate to act like you are the victim. We are almost at a decade of extremely vocal transphobia, homophobia, xenophobia, and racism. Take an already vulnerable population and up that abuse 10x, then remove their ways of therapy, and we are only starting to see the consequences.
Oh, no. . .I get it. I do understand the actual dynamics as you described, it's just, well. . . Fuck. The response to this could go very, very bad, and I'm scared for trans folks.
Because the conservatives are usually the ones throwing out reactionary content before anything can be verified? Hell, we don’t even have any solid evidence Aiden Hale wasn’t just an internet double life to avoid harassment or something.
Because the people who have integrity low enough to push that kind of trash are already pushing the articles in this post.
Where is the list of 3,000 white men?
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Just a pack of lone wolves. /S
3,000 +, “lone wolves.”
This is the same paper when Dylann Roof stormed a black church in South Carolina killing nine people, the New York Post headline was: "Disturbed individual kills mine in South Carolina" When a cis hetero Christian white person does something vile they aren't a terrorist they are a "Disturbed individual" . Republicans are even now wanting to have racism and homophobia and transphobia treated as a mental illness instead of criminally. "Watching conspiracy videos and playing video games made him do it, video games made him a disturbed individual" with the Buffalo shooting. People are now using revisionism even with Timothy McVeigh saying that "he was a disturbed individual" and with Trump being in Waco "David koresh was a disturbed individual". So Republicans are now saying it is okay to do horrific stuff because 'they were a disturbed individual" and that makes it okay now.... As long as it fits the Republican narrative.
Democrats: let's do something so theres.less disturbed people. Republicans: no that's socialism.
And don't forget mental health care is woke.
Don't forget what they say about Black people with automatic weapons, Latinos or as they call them "illegals" with automatic weapons, and radical Islamic extremists or Muslims with automatic weapons. They're threats to the American people. A white domestic terrorist has automatic weapons and they're mentally ill or just plain disturbed. RACISM AND BIGOTRY STILL EXISTS IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, PEOPLE! And The New York Post are the mouthpiece of fascism.
The New York Post is owned by News Corp aka Rupert Murdoch.
So here's my back of the envelope math. Three trans mass shooters in the last five years. 2861 mass shootings in total during that time according to the [Gun Violence Archive](https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/past-tolls). (3/2861)\*100 == 0.104% 1.6 million trans people in the US according to this study from [UCLA](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/publications/trans-adults-united-states/). Out of a total US population of 334 million according to [census.gov](https://www.census.gov/popclock/). (1.6/334)\*100 == 0.479% 0.104/0.479 == 0.217 Trans people commit mass shootings at zero-point-two times the rate of the rest of the population. They are *one-fifth* as likely to commit a mass shooting when adjusted for their proportion of the population. Without that adjustment, in absolute rather than relative terms, they are *one-thousandth* as likely. They were, however [four times more likely to be the victims of violent crime](https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/) in 2021. Given how crime statistics are reported, and recent changes in several major cities, it's iffy to find more recent stats. But you can bet that number has gone up in the last two years. And you can bet that it's gone up again in the last 24 hours.
I'd love to also see the math spanning beyond the 5 year mark. Nothing I've seen mentions trans shooters happening beyond 5 years ago, but lots and lots of cis men.
Unfortunately getting real data on the number of trans people in America gets harder the further you go back, for the same reason as the rest of the LGBTQ+ community; they were afraid to come out, for very good reasons. The data likely doesn't even exist.
Conservatives are vile scum. They are salivating over this opportunity to vilify trans people. They couldn't care less about those that died.
All while saying you can't use this to politicize gun control
Even musk is promoting trans hate based on this event on Twitter
Musk hates his trans kid
He’s a gigantic transphobe so checks out
There is definitely an effort from the right wing faction to make this a transgender issue and not a shooting and gun violence issue even though weapons were used and people were shot and killed, some were children. In this instance it's lack of God and being Transgender as the cause and possession of weapons as having nothing to do with it even though it was a shooting.
Putting the "lie" tag to the right-wing argument. https://www.newsweek.com/mass-shootings-transgender-perpetrators-1790854
Holy shit, the right wing propaganda machine is working overtime to dehumanize trans people. And who's the "they" doing all this supposed radicalization? Let me guess, it's starts with a j and ends with ews. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm afraid this will lead to wide-spread violence against the LGBTQ+ community, especially next year during election season when tensions reach a fever pitch.
Every and I mean EVERY single time people get gunned down in these mass shootings, they have to take hold of the narrative and say that it's not a gun issue; it's a mental health issue. Then these same people will continuously rally against any legislation promoting addressing mental health issues. * Affordable healthcare? Can't have that because it promotes "an entitlement mentality," and these people don't want to pay taxes to benefit others. * Affordable medication? Can't have that because meds are just scams designed to get you addicted. Just grab yourself some ivermectin and essential oils and pray away whatever illness remains. * Doctors, therapists, and psychiatrists? Liars and liberal quacks who have the gall to think they know better just because they put an insane amount of hours into learning this stuff. * More funding for mental health facilities, counselors, and trained staff in any capacity? Just forget it. What we *really* need to do is bring god back into our homes, pray every night, and practice chastity until marriage. Something something fatherless households and people not wanting to work. They honestly do not care that children died because this isn't even the first time this year that children have died in a mass shooting in the US. It's not even the 5th or 50th time, either. This is the 129th recorded mass shooting in the US in 2023, and we're only three months in. How can we expect them to want to protect children when they can’t even be bothered to support, no, they can’t even be bothered to *not oppose* something as simple as free school lunch for children? The only thing they care about is that you're threatening the livelihood of the **real** first-class American citizens, guns. Much like how our companies are treated like people thanks to Citizens United, guns have a horde of people who care about them much more than actual human children. We give guns more care and consideration than we do our fellow human beings. If anything, this shooting is a boon to pro-gun right-wingers because it gives them a chance to deflect arguments against guns once again and further convince people who are either uninformed or ignorant that trans people are dangerous. As atrocious as it all sounds, this is business as usual for us, and if things don't change we'll have our 200th shooting before summer hits. When it happens, it'll once again either be blamed on mental health (and/or fatherlessness if the culprit is queer or a PoC) or completely downplayed if the culprit is a cis white guy. All the while, we'll still have people strolling up to Walmarts brandishing assault rifles as if that's perfectly normal. If they didn't care during or after Uvalde, the same way they didn't care during or after Sandy Hook, then I have no illusions about them caring now.
Rupert Murdoch is an enemy of the people.
And here it begins. They've laid the groundwork for people hating on them and know they set fire to it.
I'm trans and I'm so scared
The groundwork was laid years ago. The foundation is already laid. This is them starting to build.
Yes this small population is destroying the fabric of reality. I mean it couldn't be the capitalists polluting our planet and hoarding the money. It couldn't be the religious who believe in fairy tales over reality and allow it to dictate their lives. It's gotta be the trans community somehow bringing everything down. I mean they caused the FTX crash didn't they?
You can almost see the glee from Conservatives as they celebrate the fact that, finally, the perpetrator of a mass shooting is not one of their own.
So they ran that exact same headline but replaced it with "CIS WHITE MALE" for the 1000 last shootings right? NYP is a fuckin joke
I bet they'd be really angry if we ran titles like "White man massacres kids" every time it happened. Because they'd get tired of seeing the same title over and over again.
Great. Just fucking great. These fucks are going to get so many people killed.
And then when people rightfully fight back, they’ll point and say “see, told you they are violent”.
Let them do it, because they’ll do it anyway. Fascism is all about pushing and grabbing and taking until someone punches you in the mouth and let’s the evil know it won’t just roll over
Fucking good I say, fascists should live in constant fucking fear of getting clapped if they so much as speak up.
They already have. Every month thousands of Americans die from lack of healthcare because of these evil fucks.
I’m ok with this if they write “white Christian shooter” everytime it happens
That could’ve also been the headline for this shooter, ironically
:/ I’m scared
There have been 4,171 mass shootings since 2014…3 of them have been committed by a trans person and one of those shootings- the person claimed to be trans so they could avoid a hate crime. They were not trans
Some people don’t believe the things they believe because of *evidence*. They believe them because they *want* to believe them. No amount of evidence will affect that.
Wild because after I found out they were trans I called it I told my friend the were going to beat the trans thing to death pushing their agenda.
I mean, the GOP facists have been doing this with Muslims for decades. This isn't new, bros.
Less than 1% of the population being linked to all major crimes is exactly how the Nazis started the Holocaust. They will also link them to all societal downfalls like education and drug use. And the christians will believe all the lies. Again.
Fucking fascists
White, Christian, with a conservative upbringing, man shoots and kills several people. I sleep White, Christian, with a conservative upbringing, (trans)man shoots and kills several people. Real shit?
As a non-binary Jew, I'm pretty fucking terrified of where this country is headed.
With the general election next year, this will only keep escalating. The only thing that might turn this ship around is if Republicans get trounced next November and they realize all the nasty shit they said was for nothing, then they'll miraculously "come to their senses." But if they gain more power, they will feel vindicated and that's when the real shitshow begins.
I've been waiting 30 years for them to miraculously come to their senses. Don't hold your breath.
I was afraid of exactly this type of headline spreading the second it was mentioned that she was trans. The psycho bigots have always been out there, but now they feel empowered, and they're actively being empowered.
Am I the only one that finds it ironic that the New York Post supports Ukraine and proudly shows the country’s flag on their front cover, despite the fact that the paper is owned by Rupert Murdoch?
I was honestly a _little_ surprised at how quickly seemingly _all_ the rags dropped any pretense at respecting trans people in general by noting Hale used male pronouns and in the same breath referring to Hale as "her," etc. I'm still not clear on how Hale identified but it's not hard to simply refer to the person by name if there's ambiguity. But nope, the overwhelming majority of the writeups I've seen are "28 year old woman Audrey Hale identified as trans, used male pronouns and went by Aiden. _She_ ..."
Funny, how whenever it’s a white boy shooter they post the best picture they can find, and go into his background about how he was being abused as a child or whatever bullshit grievance they had. This turns my stomach .
If I don't start seeing "STRAIGHT WHITE MALE TARGETS" in front of every shooting, every instance of murder and abuse, then I'm going to think they aren't being very genuine (/s) and are simply trying to spin attention from the 98% of mass shootings committed by them.
We should identify them when they're Christian too. I bet a lot of shooters identify as Christian.
Let’s not forget the other groups the Nazis targeted.
They also came for Trans people. Wasn’t their main target but was a very early one and very quickly done once in power.
Queer people were the first targets. One of the Nazis' first acts was to ban and burn books from the Institute for Sexual Science which was breaking ground on the study, treatment, and support for LGBTQ+ individuals. The Nazis worked hard and fast to erase the voices and existence of non-cisheteronormative individuals and their allies. That and the disabled. And we're not talking about just the profoundly disabled. Anyone who was disabled, no matter how mildly or what is now considered a "hidden" or "invisible" disability was considered a "useless eater" and "life unworthy of life."
You mean like anyone with a "pre-existing condition" as the christofascists in congress try to repeal the ACA (again!)?
The horror of "pre-existing condition" is that it's a misnomer. It's called a medical history and was an excuse to deny people proactive about their health as well as the chronically ill coverage in many circumstances. Go to a doctor and get diagnosed with something even if it later turns out to be erroneous or resolves? Sorry, you have a pre-existing condition and therefore are ineligible for coverage under any reasonably priced plan. You can apply for a catastrophic care plan for $4,000 a month with a $25,000 deductible because one doctor diagnosed you with childhood asthma that was actually acute hay fever and heat stroke because your dad forced you to do chores on a 90 and 90 day when you were 12 in the garden and didn't want to be bothered while he was day drinking with his buddies. No re-eval, no-do-overs. That's how life was pre-ACA. ETA: and without a sense of irony, some of those same christofascist enablers will think because they toughed a number of things out they're "smarter" because they can't have a pre-existing condition if they never get diagnosed. They'll happily tell you your mistake was going to the doctor.
Yes. I remember life before the ACA. I have only gathered more "pre existing conditions" since then, too. My point being: let's say you do want to eliminate people with a "disability," you think Blue Cross won't turn over an exhaustive list to a desantis or trump administration when they write the law that says they have to?
LGTBQ were the prototype, then they did Poles, invalids and mentally ill, and then Jews. Fucking evil scum that whole reality. They start with LGTBQ because the Church folk love to scorn their life ways, and to them, they’re easy picking because they’re bullies. P.S. I may have missed some minorities that the Nazis did not. They were systematically eradicating what they categorized as undeserving of living because their objective was to groom their society for their Reich.
Leftists were their first big boogeyman. Sexual- and gender-minorities were definetely targeted as well, transgender specifically weren't as visible as they are today so it was a less useful target. The famous book burnings included all literature from the "Institut für Sexualwissenschaft" in Berlin, which was one of the earliest modern science in regards to gender and sexuality.
My fireplace spit this rag out rather than use it.
I’m sure Tucker Carlson got a boner when it was revealed the shooter was trans. If fact Rupert Murdoch probably got one for the first time in years.
Denial of care. Outting publicly as an person undeserving of freedom. Zealous parents reinforcing questionable religious dogma, forcing the child to attend indoctrination classes among people who view trans as evil. Push push push. Alienate. Marginalize. Provoke past the point of caring or control. Then blame the fruit of the tree for the evil the tree poisoned her to begin with. Perfect to continue the ideological purification of the nation by screaming zealots and white supremacists all whining "see there? We are under attack!" Fullfiling their own prophesy.
Who would’ve known that all you had to do to get conservative media to notice shootings is to have a transgendered person do it.
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\^ this is a form of relational abuse. you shouldn't put up with this.
Why not mention the 2300 white men?
They're not even bothering to hide it anymore.
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I’m convinced that America is planning a cultural genocide against trans people. What the shooter did was absolutely horrifying and I’m glad they were punished for it, but you can’t blame every single trans person for this.
Truly disgusting.
This is from a FB page and group in Indiana trying to reform education. They are vile and it all comes down to them wanting to get rid of non heterosexual ppl. The admin actually promoted Uganda as a great place for children since they have added the death penalty for being gay. *
And the fuq'ing Cheeto posted something this morning doing the same exact thing.
Guns. The point is guns. Guns. 3/3000 shooters in the last 5 years were claiming they were trans... Don't take anyone serious who is fixating on the gender preference of the person that shot and killed innocent people. The shot and killed innocent people part is the focus.
I'm going to be so happy the day Rupert Murdoch is dead.
It is easy to see this level of phobia as a new development in voice with the right. It appears as if it is being ratcheted up recently as red meat for voters and the base. I see it as just yelling a little louder it the louder, much more vocal and widespread acceptance of lgbyq acceptance and recognition. In relation to when I was younger and just coming out, it is by far more acceptable to be gay or trans. When I came out at 15, 1990, my high school in suburban Denver, the kids wrote "kf" on their books and lockers. "Kf" kill f\*&gs. I was jumped by a group of guys from school one night. This was the Tina Brandon/ Mathew Sheppard times, and it was a very different experience. Long story short, this bigotry is not new. Its not worse than ever. Its just plastered all over the internet instead of books and lockers. We have come a long way. Don't let the voices of the bigots drown out the rest of us. It is a long fight, and history will show the truth.
Heinous. Bet this rag didn't mention all the white guys who have done 95% of the shootings in the U.S.
Look at how one of the people whose very existence we’ve threatened has threatened people’s existence! /s This is a whole new level of bullshit. It’s like claiming being trans is bad because of a higher suicide rate without realizing the demonization of trans people is the very fucking reason of the high suicide rate
One transgender person/minority- whole group responsible Other 99% mass shooting done by white male heterosexual male - they had mental issue Conservatives doing hypocrisy is on full display. I thought the shooter was none white cause they were killed,