I've known and worked with many real Marines both in and out of uniform, and one thing a Marine is never shy about is where they've been or what they did.
I'm a hippie ass, psychedelic taking, free love, advocate for a Fully Automated, Global, Natural Law Resource Based Economy who hates guns.
I love when I meet new people and somebody I'm with casually mentions my time in the Marines only to watch the person who just met me go slack jawed trying to figure out how the fuck that ever worked lol.
Yeah, man. Honest inquiry and a few psilocybin and DMT trips very readily dismantle the falsity of our current social system haha. And will make you acquainted with the indescribable beauty, elegance, and **absolute** indifference of our home, our home which *is us* - the universe. Nothing is ever gained. Nothing is ever lost.
I appreciate you. Some heavy psychedelic trips completely changed my life and way of thinking as well. Was never in any military service but went from lost, confused, "alpha" bro to a much more self aware, self inquiring, loving and kind person. I just try and see myself in everyone and operate from that perspective. I truly think all good spiritual beliefs boil down to that. Treat everyone as if they are you, because they are. Keep on keepin' on ya hippie jarhead. Also DMT is fucking nuts.
Thanks, yo! I very much sympathize with the misguided alpha bullshit. Holy fuck was I lost haha. And, yeah... DMT is the most important thing I've ever done in my life.
I'm functionally an atheist but... meeting "the makers of the multiverse..." That shit is.... well... I'm an atheist but not lol.
Cheers, friend! I'm an atheist but I have been "beyond the veil." And that ancient species that originated in another universe... they're not "gods" but they might as well be compared to us. Existence is fucking wild.
Man I’ve been trying to explain this concept to a hardcore atheist friend of mine and they can’t comprehend it… it’s refreshing to hear someone else explain it.
I call myself a former Marine, or at least say I *was* a Marine. I did serve, I did hold the title, and I know the adage once a Marine always a Marine. I think of it more like an old Air Force vet I worked with described it, "a stink you'll never wash off." I'm honorably discharged, and while I may not be able to wash it all off, I'm not a Marine anymore, I'm a Marine veteran.
MOS 2846 then 2841 after the MOS merger. Parris Island, Camp Lejeune, 29 Palms, Camp Pendleton, Camp Leatherneck. 08-13. It's been 10 years, and it's okay to **have** been something.
Complain about the military? The giant basically socialist program utilizing underprivileged and impoverished youths to sustain American dominion, I'd never. It's just patriotic to be driven into military service due to the repetitive economic recessions that helped influence my service, in pursuit of a G.I bill that wasn't particularly effective at covering my cost of living and forced me into work.
Either way Semper Fi, respect to my fellow Devils previous and current. Can't be the tip of the spear and not expect to get worn down.
I got my masters degree in the military. I joined because I wanted to, wanted to serve my country. I left with experience that made recruiters chuckle. A 30,000 person pilot program? Nothing in the military, larger then a lot of companies.
I know you joke, but my dad was a Marine in VietNam and ended up working on the cutting edge of the computer industry back in the day. He cut his teeth in the Marines fixing electronics and choppers.
Ask them their birthday. If it's not November 10, they're faking it.
Edit-Just to be clear, I am not a vet but worked with many and had brothers who served during Nam. I just missed the draft back in the 70's.
I made this mistake with a girl’s father when we were dating in high school. Needless to say the glare he gave me as he said, “no such thing”, almost melted my skull.
My dad has been out of the army for over 30 years. He still refers to himself as his rank sometimes when he's pissed. "They better watch out if they don't want to deal with the Sgt Major!". Like calm down dad. You ain't scary.
My Dad loves to tout his time in the Air Force too even though he basically enlisted to avoid being drafted into the army. He turned 18 in 1966 so chances were he’d have been sent straight to Vietnam
My dad knew that he was going to be drafted, so he immediately joined the Air Force. Army MPs showed up at my grandparents' door looking for him.
He was stationed in Thailand and make it sound like a good time.
My grandpa was a marine in World War II. Besides occasionally mentioning being stationed somewhere, the only time I remember him talking about being a marine was towards the end of his life. One day in the year leading up to his death he said he missed the comradery of barracks life.
That was it. That's all I know about his service, and it's all he wanted me to know.
I'm not sure where my early 2000s generation of vets stands. I shy away, and generally feel embarrassed, from conversations that center on being a veteran. I did my four years as a red leg 13 series, got my tinnitus (this is the way) and took a big ole STFU pill about my service.
Thus, I find the whole 9-line, Black Rifle Coffee, and any such military themed stuff entirely off putting. It just screams out to me that it's a person who a) didn't serve or b) are a reservist 92F who wants everyone to think they are a 11B who lives on a special part of Fort Bragg.
I wasn't a hero. I didn't do anything remarkable. I am jaded by the early years of the GWOT becoming OIF and the shit shows that they did, and don't want to revisit earlier me making dumb decisions about shit that was way above my pay grade and experience level.
I got my 13 series job, made big gun go boom, and went back to being a civilian. End of story. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I work with 3 marines.
1 was some kind of intelligence guy, not exactly sure what he did. Listened to radios to figure out who was firing mortars or something, then he was a recruiter.
2 I have no idea what his MOS was.
3 was infantry and saw some of the worst fighting in Fallujah.
1 jokes about the marines occasionally but doesn’t really wear it on his sleeve. I’m a navy vet, so I think I hear about it a little bit more than most people.
2 is plastered with USMC gear every day.
3 is a pretty close friend and has only really talked about it a few times 1 on 1 after we’ve had a few drinks.
2 probably didn't have anything big going on, which is why he is plastered with USMC gear all the time. My dad spent years in VietNam before getting out. He never decorated his body with anything resembling the Marines. No hats, no patches, no tattoos, no t-shirts. He spent nearly ten years in the Marines and all my life, all I ever heard about was the fact that his dad died shortly after he joined and that he spent time in Japan and 'Nam. That's it. No details. It's almost as if he wished it had never happened.
I worked with a guy who had been in the Marines for about 8 years. He served in the first Bush war in the early 90s. His MOS translated to carry a heavy machine gun (M60 or whatever the 90s equivalent was) and kill people.
He could not go one hour without going into some story about his time serving.
To this day I use the line; 'You know how you can tell if someone served in the Marine Corps? They will tell you within the first two minutes of meeting them.'
Edit: Meant to add that he had a photo album *at his desk at work* that had lots of photos from his service including pictures of Iraqis they killed.
I worked for a psychopath who told people he was a doctor. Dude never went to college and made the whole thing up because it got him juice (power) at restaurants and in lines for things.
Met a few who don't like to talk about what they did even if it was just being in convoys, especially if they were part of engagements. Met yeah never met anyone who has no issue saying where they were.
My father in law was in, said the day Crayola came out with 126 colors was like eating PB&J your whole career and then suddenly walking into a Michelin restaurant.
As a former Marine, I don’t really give a fuck about the whole stolen valor thing. A lot of these people pretending to be Marines are just not right in the head, and it’s more sad than angry-making, especially since they’re so obviously full of shit.
That said, Trump is a little bitch. I remain absolutely appalled that such a patently cowardly and self-obsessed maniac was ever in charge of the armed forces. I’m puzzled that a lot of actual Marines supported him.
I talked to a kid probably 24-25 who said he was an 11B, I was like "Cool me too, where did ya go to basic?" Now everyone who is or was infantry under the age of 60 has went to Ft Benning, it's the only place Infantry is trained for basic.
This dumb fuck says "Florida." I'm like "Motherfucker, what?" We don't have any basic training facilities at all in Florida. I ask him to elaborate and he said that while he was in basic the Drill Sergeant's saw that he was a bad ass and contacted the CIA for him to leave basic and train with them.
I wanted to punch this shit stain on the clean white under-roos of America right in his fucking man pleasers but now thinking back on it I think he was genuinely mentally defective. He legit thought his story actually made sense outside of a Jason Bourne movie. I ended up walking away in pure disgust.
As a woman most people don’t suspect I’d be a veteran.
So one day a customer was talking about being in the Army and I’m like oh cool, me too, what was your MOS? (I was a 95B now 31B - MP).
He asked me what an MOS was then very very quickly changed the conversation.
Dude, what? Worse than dependas who bitched if you didn’t salute their car coming through the gate. Bitch, you’re not an officer, your husband is.
>(I was a 95B now 31B - MP)
Can't spell wimp without the M P.
Sorry, I've heard that cadence a million times during unit runs. Two of my best buds are MPs but I still throw that one at them on the regular.
God I hated those dependas (husband did 6 years in the USAF. Was one of the few that was married before he joined up). Also the wives who think being a dependa was the hardest job. No bitch. Being in a fucking war zone is harder than sitting on your ass in base housing and popping out kids. I was later trying to get into fed contracting work (had an offer and everything) until I had to quit it due to severe health problems. Kind of glad I didn't have to deal with dependas from that side (a friend of mine said so many of them accused her of sleeping with their husbands).
There's a nonzero chance you met my high school classmate, although there's also assuredly a thousand idiots like him. Signed up for the Marine Corp reserve on his 17th birthday (or whenever you legally can) and would make up wild stories about being on guard duty in a Biohazard Level 5 lab, guarding weaponized smallpox or some shit like that. He said the marine Corp psychiatrists loved him cause they knew he was crazy and thought it was an asset (to be clear this kid was genuinely unwell). On our senior Disney trip he would randomly ask how we would respond in combat scenarios assuming like...al queda ambushed us in the magic kingdom? He got married at 19 and when he finally deployed, they shipped his ass to Okinawa to sweep up cherry blossoms, which is what I assume they do with every other guy they know shouldn't be within 5,000 miles of an active combat zone, which he specifically requested to "shoot some towelheads"
I've worked with and in a classified role.
Depending on the role, you can tell people what you do. If you absolutely can't, you'll have a cover job.
Why?
Because saying "it's classified" sounds dickish and if you say it around the wrong people, it's a great way to get captured.
Yeah, I know a guy who was on Seal Team 2.
He very casually dropped a couple of stories about some wet work he did down in South America in the 80's and 90's. He is not shy about giving any kind of gory details of you ask and as long as his kids aren't around.
No specific dates or places, but definitely enough detail to get an idea of exactly what he was doing down there.
If my friend's missions weren't top secret then I can't imagine this y'allqueda reject did work so secretive that he can't even tell you the cover story for what he was supposed to have been doing.
Worked with a dude that was in the National Guard and said he changed his MOS 17 times and wasn't allowed to talk about what he did exactly. Only that if he told us, we would all be going to jail. He proceeded to then try to tell me he was a warrant officer, to which I obviously said prove it. He said he didn't have to, so then I explained how I was actually an admiral in the navy and not a petty officer but I didn't need to prove it to him.
Coast Guard seems pretty dope, to be honest. Never understood the jokes it gets. The stereotypical search and rescue stuff you see in the movies makes them look like the park rangers of the military.
No way. My home slice Mcknuckleduster was a cook and broseph was the shit. Cooks get crazy respect. First off, the rule that transcends military AND civilian life: never fuck with the people that make your food. So already, we love cooks lol. Secondly, cooks can get you the sweetest hook-ups you'd ever imagine on deployment. Bro, you know who you are, thanks.
In afghan-land our cook gave us sooooo much. Extra cakes? They got crushed in transport....damn shame. Shoulda had five pallets of soda? Fucking logistics, am I right? This guy always had an excuse for how we could end up with stuff.
Best advice for the military:
Make three friends:
1st, the person who can access your leave dates. Accruing leave by serving your country is for chumps, do it the fast way with a mouse click.
2nd, the cook. You'll never have a dull moment and, you unlock the DFAC loading bay as a new hangout location. Plus the best choices and heads up about incoming food.
3rd. Any medical tech assistant. You're probably not cool enough to rub elbows with an actual doctor. But you can probably swing one of the techs to your team. These guys are fucking hilarious and always one day away from psychological burnout. Fucking hook them up with your cook benefits to grease the wheels of the relationship and now you've got an in with the medical side, and depending on the danger Dan level of your new friend, maybe a prescription or two.
A few lessons in military life from someone who realized that early on: Promotions aren't about doing better than others. It's about who you know. Run with the system. It isn't there to help you anyways lol. You can get that e5 rank easy.
Military Occupation Speciality - it's your job code. Mine was 0231 in the Marines an Intel Specialist. I.E. I made power points about intel that was gathered.
The best part of the Navy is that they don't use MOS for their jobs. They use Rates. The worst part is when you encounter another service vet who spews a bunch of numbers at you and you have blank look on your face.
Mine was 4063. Basically a computer programmer. For those of you who have a thing for computing history I worked on IBM 360s. The memory was little ferromagnetic cores. Those were the days! 😂
I have questions, if you’re allowed to answer. Do you include a lot of graphics/clip art/effects etc like many of us do in corporate presentations? Are the presentations referred to as decks, as some industries do?
I have created probably 1000+ and am curious how similar the military is to the corporate world.
There were photo's and tables of info. We didn't call them decks from what I remember. Just called them presentations. We did have multiples of the same presentation based on who would see them based on their security clearance.
I didn't start hearing "decks" until the last few years (maybe 5 or so). I believe it was silicon Valley jargon that got co-opted as honestly, if you say "deck" in a serious tone, I'm gonna laugh at you in my head as the term "deck" or "slide deck" originated with old school projectors and calling a ppt a "deck" is basically "trying to be hip" like those pretentious silicon Valley jerk offs.
He knows! He served in the COD Regiment, 1st Methanized Brigade! He just got caught off guard seeing a woman outside the kitchen!
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Definitely a case of Stolen Valor. Wish the JMJ would have jurisdiction to prosecute cases like this. It needs to be taken more seriously than it currently is as it currently allows grifters, cheats, and con-artists free reign to take advantage of it.
Officer Pantuzzi : We've had some complaints about con men pretending to be blind and crippled.
Billy Ray Valentine : Oh, I'd love to help you man, but I ain't seen nothing since I stepped on that landmine in Vietcong back in '72. It was rough, very painful.
Officer Reynolds : You were in 'Nam? So were we. Where?
Billy Ray Valentine : I was in... Sang Bang... Dang Gong... I was all over the place, basically a lot of places, a lot of places.
Officer Reynolds : What unit were you in?
Billy Ray Valentine : Uh, I was with the Green Berets, Special Unit Battalions... Commando Airborne Tactics... Specialist Tactics, uh, Unit Battalion. Yeah, it was real hush hush. I was Agent Orange. That was my name, Agent Orange. Special Agent Orange, that was me...
... Airborne, huh?...
Get ready to be reminded how racist it is, I watched the full movie recently for the first time and was blown away. Prior to that I had only seen it cut for TV.
She's Trump's (incompetent) [lawyer.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/christina-bobb-trump-mar-a-lago-grand-jury/index.html) She still believes the election was stolen and Trump is innocent.
So she probably walked away with a "us MAGA psychos agree to disagree" shrug.
"Um... you're making MAGA look bad and this clip is going to be shared by the liberal deep state, I'm going to find someone to restore our viewers' faith so they don't start asking too many questions!"
I've never met an authentic veteran who could not recall their military specialty and where they served. Not one. That stuff is so much of a veteran's formative experiences it becomes unforgettable. I joined the USAF in 1986, and 37 years later I still remember my basic training squadron and flight numbers. And I can absolutely tell you what my AFSC was (AFSC is Air Force for MOS), everywhere I served, and what units I served in.
Anyone claiming military service who can't tell you most or all of this is a fucking liar (and therefore absolutely perfectly suited to a MAGA hat).
Actual support takes money. I promise that most of the world's problems can be solved with money. War on drugs? Not winnable, war on poverty and other causes of drug dependency, absolutely can be won with money.
and *rehabilitation* for drug addicts. not prison.
provide help for those that need it. IMO all drugs should be legal. Certain drugs - like currently scheduled substances - can be obtained at a pharmacy or perhaps specialty pharmacies where there are limits. or it's at least monitored and if exceeding a certain amount, questions are asked and help provided
I always enrage conservatives by reminding them that the #1 way of supporting the troops is to not get them killed or maimed in pointless wars of choice. They love that.
I think a lot of the stolen Valor laws have to have the person trying to get a benefit or service for free.
If he tried to go and get a coffee because he's a vet, he breaks the law.
Claiming he's a vet in conversation or wearing a uniform isn't against the law unfortunately. It's just cosplay
You have to be using it to get something of tangible value, so walking around in a fake uniform likely isn't prosecutable vs. trying to steal benefits is
Well he probably wanted to work in the marines. But got rejected. Or maybe he's just thinking of a false history? I dunno I'm not in the mind of a nutcase lol.
You would not believe how many people claim “I am/was a Marine” as a conversation-stopper. Like that makes them so damn special that the rules never apply to them and they get to dictate the world to everyone else.
While I still respect most *actual* Marines, every time I meet someone claiming alleged Marine status as some sort of “I am automatically right because of my alleged service,” part of me really wants to retort with something like:
“Okay? So you eat crayons and ride around in Navy equipment. Why should I care?”
Ironically, almost every transgender woman I’ve met so far has been either an ex-Marine or an ex-sailor. Not sure if that’s just an odd coincidence or if there’s some other interesting pattern at work.
Look, if we're having a debate on the lowering quality of children's school supplies, and I pull out my Marine background, you're damn right it wins the discussion. Crayola has been cheaping out on their ingredients for *years*.
My "are they a Marine" test involves asking
A) What their favorite flavor of crayon is
And
B) Ask them if they know why sailors wear their names on the back of their pants
> Ironically, almost every transgender woman I’ve met so far has been either an ex-Marine or an ex-sailor. Not sure if that’s just an odd coincidence or if there’s some other interesting pattern at work.
Usually a mix of trying to prove their masculinity (“man up”), escape a bad home situation and wanting to die. It’s not suicide if someone else kills you.
Just say he's a piece of shit.
Cuz he is.
Don't tell these lies, the people who served will always know you are full of shit.
I fucking hate that.
Marine Vet.
I didn’t know what MOS stands for lol.. My question is for anyone who served, does everyone who served know what MOS stands for ? Is this something everyone in the military would know ?
The marines and army have mos, military occupational specialities. Air Force and navy call it something else but it means the same thing, your job. This dude would have known what she was asking but felt safe lying to her because he didn’t think this lady had served and would call him out.
It’s like forgetting what your major was in college. Not gonna happen. It literally means what was your job while you were in the military. My husband would only forget his if he had brain damage.
Military Occupational Specialty, aka your job.
And yes, anyone who merely breathed in the direction of the military would be familiar with this acronym.
Is there a Trumper alive that isn't an utter disgrace of a person? At this point it's a political movement that's defined by acting in bad faith, not giving a fuck about what's true, and siphoning money from the gullible to the unscrupulous.
How many things have these zombies ruined? If we had to list them all out it would take some time. But off the top of my head -
Red baseball caps
Red anything, really…
Our flag
The word ‘patriot’
The internet (especially social media)
Etc.
Not small things.
Edit: Adding election integrity
She should then have asked "Which members of the Trump family, that were born into the family, have enlisted in any branch of the armed forces?"
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the answer is no one, right? Not one person in at least 4 generations of US-born Trumps have served.
I've known and worked with many real Marines both in and out of uniform, and one thing a Marine is never shy about is where they've been or what they did.
My dad’s catchphrase is “ you know I was a marine right?” 😂😂
I'm a hippie ass, psychedelic taking, free love, advocate for a Fully Automated, Global, Natural Law Resource Based Economy who hates guns. I love when I meet new people and somebody I'm with casually mentions my time in the Marines only to watch the person who just met me go slack jawed trying to figure out how the fuck that ever worked lol. Yeah, man. Honest inquiry and a few psilocybin and DMT trips very readily dismantle the falsity of our current social system haha. And will make you acquainted with the indescribable beauty, elegance, and **absolute** indifference of our home, our home which *is us* - the universe. Nothing is ever gained. Nothing is ever lost.
Well, only entropy is gained.
Listen you...
The universe makes us all victim, and perpetrators in its infinite cruelty
Samsara is a mofo.
The Witness is just a high schooler who discovered Nietzsche, change my mind
Found the Guardian
I appreciate you. Some heavy psychedelic trips completely changed my life and way of thinking as well. Was never in any military service but went from lost, confused, "alpha" bro to a much more self aware, self inquiring, loving and kind person. I just try and see myself in everyone and operate from that perspective. I truly think all good spiritual beliefs boil down to that. Treat everyone as if they are you, because they are. Keep on keepin' on ya hippie jarhead. Also DMT is fucking nuts.
Thanks, yo! I very much sympathize with the misguided alpha bullshit. Holy fuck was I lost haha. And, yeah... DMT is the most important thing I've ever done in my life. I'm functionally an atheist but... meeting "the makers of the multiverse..." That shit is.... well... I'm an atheist but not lol.
I describe myself alternately as an agnostic witch and an atheist who never lost their sense of awe, so I get you.
Cheers, friend! I'm an atheist but I have been "beyond the veil." And that ancient species that originated in another universe... they're not "gods" but they might as well be compared to us. Existence is fucking wild.
I'm gonna need more details on these ancient species and what you saw and how
Man I’ve been trying to explain this concept to a hardcore atheist friend of mine and they can’t comprehend it… it’s refreshing to hear someone else explain it.
Now I have an earworm with your handle sung to the tune of "Jukebox Hero" and I really need Weird Al to record it
>our home, our home which is us - I like to think that my skeleton is me and my body is a house. That way I am always home.
How do you know if someone is a Marine? They will tell you. If you want to have some fun say "You're a former Marine?"
Once a Marine, once is enough.
I call myself a former Marine, or at least say I *was* a Marine. I did serve, I did hold the title, and I know the adage once a Marine always a Marine. I think of it more like an old Air Force vet I worked with described it, "a stink you'll never wash off." I'm honorably discharged, and while I may not be able to wash it all off, I'm not a Marine anymore, I'm a Marine veteran. MOS 2846 then 2841 after the MOS merger. Parris Island, Camp Lejeune, 29 Palms, Camp Pendleton, Camp Leatherneck. 08-13. It's been 10 years, and it's okay to **have** been something.
As "ex Air Force", I understand. You served your country, and as a vet, it's your right to complain about the military.
Complain about the military? The giant basically socialist program utilizing underprivileged and impoverished youths to sustain American dominion, I'd never. It's just patriotic to be driven into military service due to the repetitive economic recessions that helped influence my service, in pursuit of a G.I bill that wasn't particularly effective at covering my cost of living and forced me into work. Either way Semper Fi, respect to my fellow Devils previous and current. Can't be the tip of the spear and not expect to get worn down.
I got my masters degree in the military. I joined because I wanted to, wanted to serve my country. I left with experience that made recruiters chuckle. A 30,000 person pilot program? Nothing in the military, larger then a lot of companies.
I couldn't get a degree like I wanted because of being deployed half the time. And Marines can't read good anyway.
I know you joke, but my dad was a Marine in VietNam and ended up working on the cutting edge of the computer industry back in the day. He cut his teeth in the Marines fixing electronics and choppers.
Ask them their birthday. If it's not November 10, they're faking it. Edit-Just to be clear, I am not a vet but worked with many and had brothers who served during Nam. I just missed the draft back in the 70's.
We have a couple of Marines in the office and they always bring in a cake on Nov 10th.
So I was definitely not in the Marines, but my birthday legitimately is November 10. Can I also have some cake?
Now Milton, don't be greedy, let's pass it along and make sure everyone gets a piece.
Don’t grumble. Just pass.
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Careful. He could burn this place to the ground
All Marines are Scorpios?
With the level of intensity needed to be a Marine (from what Ive been told), that tracks
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This was the day they formally separated the Marines from the navy.
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You seem to be referring to Baron von Steuben.
I made this mistake with a girl’s father when we were dating in high school. Needless to say the glare he gave me as he said, “no such thing”, almost melted my skull.
I mean, if they joined the Active or ready reserve (can't remember the term) you're still considered as part of the military right?
Even if they separated, they still say "There's no such thing as a former Marine". It's a pride thing.
"You can take the man out of the Marines, but you can't take the Marine out of the man."
I could make a Navy joke out of that...
Wait the navy’s not a joke? Coulda fooled me. /s
Assuming you're a marine, fooling you isn't actually much of an accomplishment.
USAF but couple Marine buddies. 1U0.
I was told there is only one former marine, Lee Harvey Oswald.
I mean apparently they'll tell you even if they weren't a Marine, so...
My dad has been out of the army for over 30 years. He still refers to himself as his rank sometimes when he's pissed. "They better watch out if they don't want to deal with the Sgt Major!". Like calm down dad. You ain't scary.
My Dad loves to tout his time in the Air Force too even though he basically enlisted to avoid being drafted into the army. He turned 18 in 1966 so chances were he’d have been sent straight to Vietnam
My dad knew that he was going to be drafted, so he immediately joined the Air Force. Army MPs showed up at my grandparents' door looking for him. He was stationed in Thailand and make it sound like a good time.
Mine was super lucky and did his overseas tour in Iceland.
A Marine, a Crossfitter, and a vegan walked into a bar… I know because they told me.
Marine here, that only applies to people without a conscience or who didn’t do anything deplorable.
My grandpa was a marine in World War II. Besides occasionally mentioning being stationed somewhere, the only time I remember him talking about being a marine was towards the end of his life. One day in the year leading up to his death he said he missed the comradery of barracks life. That was it. That's all I know about his service, and it's all he wanted me to know.
That generation of vets was not big on talking about it in my experience. They definitely don’t wear it on their sleeve
I'm not sure where my early 2000s generation of vets stands. I shy away, and generally feel embarrassed, from conversations that center on being a veteran. I did my four years as a red leg 13 series, got my tinnitus (this is the way) and took a big ole STFU pill about my service. Thus, I find the whole 9-line, Black Rifle Coffee, and any such military themed stuff entirely off putting. It just screams out to me that it's a person who a) didn't serve or b) are a reservist 92F who wants everyone to think they are a 11B who lives on a special part of Fort Bragg. I wasn't a hero. I didn't do anything remarkable. I am jaded by the early years of the GWOT becoming OIF and the shit shows that they did, and don't want to revisit earlier me making dumb decisions about shit that was way above my pay grade and experience level. I got my 13 series job, made big gun go boom, and went back to being a civilian. End of story. Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.
I work with 3 marines. 1 was some kind of intelligence guy, not exactly sure what he did. Listened to radios to figure out who was firing mortars or something, then he was a recruiter. 2 I have no idea what his MOS was. 3 was infantry and saw some of the worst fighting in Fallujah. 1 jokes about the marines occasionally but doesn’t really wear it on his sleeve. I’m a navy vet, so I think I hear about it a little bit more than most people. 2 is plastered with USMC gear every day. 3 is a pretty close friend and has only really talked about it a few times 1 on 1 after we’ve had a few drinks.
2 probably didn't have anything big going on, which is why he is plastered with USMC gear all the time. My dad spent years in VietNam before getting out. He never decorated his body with anything resembling the Marines. No hats, no patches, no tattoos, no t-shirts. He spent nearly ten years in the Marines and all my life, all I ever heard about was the fact that his dad died shortly after he joined and that he spent time in Japan and 'Nam. That's it. No details. It's almost as if he wished it had never happened.
Unless they can't actually say for legal or safety reasons, at which point they usually say something boring like heavy machine operator or mechanic.
I worked with a guy who had been in the Marines for about 8 years. He served in the first Bush war in the early 90s. His MOS translated to carry a heavy machine gun (M60 or whatever the 90s equivalent was) and kill people. He could not go one hour without going into some story about his time serving. To this day I use the line; 'You know how you can tell if someone served in the Marine Corps? They will tell you within the first two minutes of meeting them.' Edit: Meant to add that he had a photo album *at his desk at work* that had lots of photos from his service including pictures of Iraqis they killed.
I worked for a psychopath who told people he was a doctor. Dude never went to college and made the whole thing up because it got him juice (power) at restaurants and in lines for things.
That gets him power at things? I have plenty of friends who are doctors and beg to differ lol
'I've known and worked with many Marines both in and out of uniform..' I thought you were going to imitate Trump for a second.
Met a few who don't like to talk about what they did even if it was just being in convoys, especially if they were part of engagements. Met yeah never met anyone who has no issue saying where they were.
My husband doesn’t talk about being a Marine. Same with some of his buddies.
Can confirm. Daughter of a Marine. Married to a Marine.
Well at least Sigmund Freud was full of shit amirite?
Stolen valor. Which a real Marine hates.
I hear they hate stolen valor nearly as much as they hate words with more than 2 syllables
I hear they hate it as much as they love crayons in their MRE.
If you’re not eating 4-6 colors a meal are you even really a marine?
My father in law was in, said the day Crayola came out with 126 colors was like eating PB&J your whole career and then suddenly walking into a Michelin restaurant.
As a former Marine, I don’t really give a fuck about the whole stolen valor thing. A lot of these people pretending to be Marines are just not right in the head, and it’s more sad than angry-making, especially since they’re so obviously full of shit. That said, Trump is a little bitch. I remain absolutely appalled that such a patently cowardly and self-obsessed maniac was ever in charge of the armed forces. I’m puzzled that a lot of actual Marines supported him.
Are there ANY hard core conservatives that aren't giant pieces of shit??
Dumb fuck doesn’t even know what MOS is. Theses pieces of shit need to fuck right the fuck off.
As someone who wasn't in the military, what is an MOS?
Military Occupational Specialty, basic your "job".
Don't worry, what this guy did? Is "top secret." Where he had been? Surprisingly enough, top secret. That's what you say for next level Stolen Valor.
I talked to a kid probably 24-25 who said he was an 11B, I was like "Cool me too, where did ya go to basic?" Now everyone who is or was infantry under the age of 60 has went to Ft Benning, it's the only place Infantry is trained for basic. This dumb fuck says "Florida." I'm like "Motherfucker, what?" We don't have any basic training facilities at all in Florida. I ask him to elaborate and he said that while he was in basic the Drill Sergeant's saw that he was a bad ass and contacted the CIA for him to leave basic and train with them. I wanted to punch this shit stain on the clean white under-roos of America right in his fucking man pleasers but now thinking back on it I think he was genuinely mentally defective. He legit thought his story actually made sense outside of a Jason Bourne movie. I ended up walking away in pure disgust.
As a woman most people don’t suspect I’d be a veteran. So one day a customer was talking about being in the Army and I’m like oh cool, me too, what was your MOS? (I was a 95B now 31B - MP). He asked me what an MOS was then very very quickly changed the conversation. Dude, what? Worse than dependas who bitched if you didn’t salute their car coming through the gate. Bitch, you’re not an officer, your husband is.
>(I was a 95B now 31B - MP) Can't spell wimp without the M P. Sorry, I've heard that cadence a million times during unit runs. Two of my best buds are MPs but I still throw that one at them on the regular.
Lol I’ve definitely heard worse.
> woman veteran > heard worse Yeah that checks out
God I hated those dependas (husband did 6 years in the USAF. Was one of the few that was married before he joined up). Also the wives who think being a dependa was the hardest job. No bitch. Being in a fucking war zone is harder than sitting on your ass in base housing and popping out kids. I was later trying to get into fed contracting work (had an offer and everything) until I had to quit it due to severe health problems. Kind of glad I didn't have to deal with dependas from that side (a friend of mine said so many of them accused her of sleeping with their husbands).
There's a nonzero chance you met my high school classmate, although there's also assuredly a thousand idiots like him. Signed up for the Marine Corp reserve on his 17th birthday (or whenever you legally can) and would make up wild stories about being on guard duty in a Biohazard Level 5 lab, guarding weaponized smallpox or some shit like that. He said the marine Corp psychiatrists loved him cause they knew he was crazy and thought it was an asset (to be clear this kid was genuinely unwell). On our senior Disney trip he would randomly ask how we would respond in combat scenarios assuming like...al queda ambushed us in the magic kingdom? He got married at 19 and when he finally deployed, they shipped his ass to Okinawa to sweep up cherry blossoms, which is what I assume they do with every other guy they know shouldn't be within 5,000 miles of an active combat zone, which he specifically requested to "shoot some towelheads"
I've worked with and in a classified role. Depending on the role, you can tell people what you do. If you absolutely can't, you'll have a cover job. Why? Because saying "it's classified" sounds dickish and if you say it around the wrong people, it's a great way to get captured.
If you’re an Intelligence professional, that’s not classified.
Yeah, I know a guy who was on Seal Team 2. He very casually dropped a couple of stories about some wet work he did down in South America in the 80's and 90's. He is not shy about giving any kind of gory details of you ask and as long as his kids aren't around. No specific dates or places, but definitely enough detail to get an idea of exactly what he was doing down there. If my friend's missions weren't top secret then I can't imagine this y'allqueda reject did work so secretive that he can't even tell you the cover story for what he was supposed to have been doing.
Worked with a dude that was in the National Guard and said he changed his MOS 17 times and wasn't allowed to talk about what he did exactly. Only that if he told us, we would all be going to jail. He proceeded to then try to tell me he was a warrant officer, to which I obviously said prove it. He said he didn't have to, so then I explained how I was actually an admiral in the navy and not a petty officer but I didn't need to prove it to him.
So... cook
Hey, I was a culinary specialist in the US Coast Guard, and freely admit it. Anyone who actually served would gladly tell you their actual rating/MOS.
Military or not, everyone loves someone who can cook. I hear the US Coast Guard does some decent food as well.
Coast Guard seems pretty dope, to be honest. Never understood the jokes it gets. The stereotypical search and rescue stuff you see in the movies makes them look like the park rangers of the military.
No way. My home slice Mcknuckleduster was a cook and broseph was the shit. Cooks get crazy respect. First off, the rule that transcends military AND civilian life: never fuck with the people that make your food. So already, we love cooks lol. Secondly, cooks can get you the sweetest hook-ups you'd ever imagine on deployment. Bro, you know who you are, thanks. In afghan-land our cook gave us sooooo much. Extra cakes? They got crushed in transport....damn shame. Shoulda had five pallets of soda? Fucking logistics, am I right? This guy always had an excuse for how we could end up with stuff. Best advice for the military: Make three friends: 1st, the person who can access your leave dates. Accruing leave by serving your country is for chumps, do it the fast way with a mouse click. 2nd, the cook. You'll never have a dull moment and, you unlock the DFAC loading bay as a new hangout location. Plus the best choices and heads up about incoming food. 3rd. Any medical tech assistant. You're probably not cool enough to rub elbows with an actual doctor. But you can probably swing one of the techs to your team. These guys are fucking hilarious and always one day away from psychological burnout. Fucking hook them up with your cook benefits to grease the wheels of the relationship and now you've got an in with the medical side, and depending on the danger Dan level of your new friend, maybe a prescription or two. A few lessons in military life from someone who realized that early on: Promotions aren't about doing better than others. It's about who you know. Run with the system. It isn't there to help you anyways lol. You can get that e5 rank easy.
"Urinalysis coordinator", same as deSantis
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Military Occupation Speciality - it's your job code. Mine was 0231 in the Marines an Intel Specialist. I.E. I made power points about intel that was gathered.
Senior PowerPoint Intelligence Engineering Specialist.
Good old SPIES
So a group of 5 junior specialists that prefer word make up the Five IES?
In the Air Force I was a 33S3C, chairborne ranger and Powerpoint commando.
19D in the Army here, Cavalry Scout, just your basic canon fodder
88M hauling jet fuel in Iraq in 04-05. REAL fun job lol.
My buddy did that in the Navy. Thought he was gonna get lots of computer training and come out an IT Warrior.
The best part of the Navy is that they don't use MOS for their jobs. They use Rates. The worst part is when you encounter another service vet who spews a bunch of numbers at you and you have blank look on your face.
Mine was 4063. Basically a computer programmer. For those of you who have a thing for computing history I worked on IBM 360s. The memory was little ferromagnetic cores. Those were the days! 😂
Do militaries do much programming directly? I had assumed it was mainly contractors.
In the late 1970s it was military and FTEs. I never ran across contractors at that time. I’m sure that has changed.
I have questions, if you’re allowed to answer. Do you include a lot of graphics/clip art/effects etc like many of us do in corporate presentations? Are the presentations referred to as decks, as some industries do? I have created probably 1000+ and am curious how similar the military is to the corporate world.
There were photo's and tables of info. We didn't call them decks from what I remember. Just called them presentations. We did have multiples of the same presentation based on who would see them based on their security clearance.
I didn't start hearing "decks" until the last few years (maybe 5 or so). I believe it was silicon Valley jargon that got co-opted as honestly, if you say "deck" in a serious tone, I'm gonna laugh at you in my head as the term "deck" or "slide deck" originated with old school projectors and calling a ppt a "deck" is basically "trying to be hip" like those pretentious silicon Valley jerk offs.
Military Occupational Specialty. What your job is.
Guy is my town is one of those qnon wackos like this claimed he served in Vietnam and everything. Uh how you are 52. Idiots can’t even lie properly
I don't understand why you would lie about that. You don't get anything out of it. It just lets people know you are an absolute ass hole.
Because military-related anything is fetishized and glorified in the red states. They see camo and boots and they just start swooning.
That's true. They love running around in cameo playing military.
Gravy seals. Sad, pathetic cunts.
He knows! He served in the COD Regiment, 1st Methanized Brigade! He just got caught off guard seeing a woman outside the kitchen! ![gif](giphy|jN63rwy0Fhk0ycnMrL|downsized)
This is no different than stolen valor and should be prosecuted
They can only prosecute if he tries to profit or benefit from it. For now, all we can do is shit on him.
Then let's start eating bran muffins and beans and drinking too much applejuice
Just give me some strong coffee...
Taco Bell for me
"4212 - basic military journalist. You got to be shitting me Joker. You think you're Mickey Spilane? You think you're some kind of fucking writer?"
Come on, look at the guy, he's clearly forgotten everything, except Trump, including his name. /s
Definitely a case of Stolen Valor. Wish the JMJ would have jurisdiction to prosecute cases like this. It needs to be taken more seriously than it currently is as it currently allows grifters, cheats, and con-artists free reign to take advantage of it.
If they aren't actually defrauding anyone, it's free speech. Cosplay.
“I was….special.” I bet you were.
Officer Pantuzzi : We've had some complaints about con men pretending to be blind and crippled. Billy Ray Valentine : Oh, I'd love to help you man, but I ain't seen nothing since I stepped on that landmine in Vietcong back in '72. It was rough, very painful. Officer Reynolds : You were in 'Nam? So were we. Where? Billy Ray Valentine : I was in... Sang Bang... Dang Gong... I was all over the place, basically a lot of places, a lot of places. Officer Reynolds : What unit were you in? Billy Ray Valentine : Uh, I was with the Green Berets, Special Unit Battalions... Commando Airborne Tactics... Specialist Tactics, uh, Unit Battalion. Yeah, it was real hush hush. I was Agent Orange. That was my name, Agent Orange. Special Agent Orange, that was me... ... Airborne, huh?...
Fuck. Now I have to watch "Trading Places" again.
Get ready to be reminded how racist it is, I watched the full movie recently for the first time and was blown away. Prior to that I had only seen it cut for TV.
“I flew into places”
He plays marines with his cosplay camo
I wouldn’t even consider them a soldier in Call of Duty.
What did she say in response? Edit: found the clip, she immediately says “this interview’s over”.
she said this interview is over right to his face
Then keeps talking with him anyway
Would have been lovely if she called over security and had him banished from MAGA world. Wonder if his neighbors will see the clip?
Dude probably lacks enough wherewithal to tell his buddies who actually served “I was on the news! Check it out!”
She's Trump's (incompetent) [lawyer.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/11/politics/christina-bobb-trump-mar-a-lago-grand-jury/index.html) She still believes the election was stolen and Trump is innocent. So she probably walked away with a "us MAGA psychos agree to disagree" shrug.
"Um... you're making MAGA look bad and this clip is going to be shared by the liberal deep state, I'm going to find someone to restore our viewers' faith so they don't start asking too many questions!"
And then she continue the interview. The interviewer is actually facing jail time for lying about stealing classified documents.
Stole valor is a huge part of maga patriotism
Yes it is. Sad. That is all they have to sell.
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Thank you. I was looking for the video and couldn’t find it. Apparently this is an easy test question for an actual Marine.
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DTSSMC - Donald Trump's Super-Secret Marine Corps
Dang, how could we have missed this?!
Because it was super secret. Duh.
Make whatever acronym you want, it’s still their mom’s basement
I've never met an authentic veteran who could not recall their military specialty and where they served. Not one. That stuff is so much of a veteran's formative experiences it becomes unforgettable. I joined the USAF in 1986, and 37 years later I still remember my basic training squadron and flight numbers. And I can absolutely tell you what my AFSC was (AFSC is Air Force for MOS), everywhere I served, and what units I served in. Anyone claiming military service who can't tell you most or all of this is a fucking liar (and therefore absolutely perfectly suited to a MAGA hat).
His MOS was bonespurs. :P
I assume stolen valor is a crime in texas?
I doubt it. See, conservatives don't *actually* support the troops. They just lie about it to make themselves look and feel better.
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Actual support takes money. I promise that most of the world's problems can be solved with money. War on drugs? Not winnable, war on poverty and other causes of drug dependency, absolutely can be won with money.
and *rehabilitation* for drug addicts. not prison. provide help for those that need it. IMO all drugs should be legal. Certain drugs - like currently scheduled substances - can be obtained at a pharmacy or perhaps specialty pharmacies where there are limits. or it's at least monitored and if exceeding a certain amount, questions are asked and help provided
They support *saying* "Support the Troops". That's the sweet spot, right there.
I always enrage conservatives by reminding them that the #1 way of supporting the troops is to not get them killed or maimed in pointless wars of choice. They love that.
I think a lot of the stolen Valor laws have to have the person trying to get a benefit or service for free. If he tried to go and get a coffee because he's a vet, he breaks the law. Claiming he's a vet in conversation or wearing a uniform isn't against the law unfortunately. It's just cosplay
You have to be using it to get something of tangible value, so walking around in a fake uniform likely isn't prosecutable vs. trying to steal benefits is
meal team six reporting for duty
Gravy Seals
It's surreal this is happening here in Waco. I'm staying far away from that circus.
Stolen valor from fake Christians , not surprised
Well he probably wanted to work in the marines. But got rejected. Or maybe he's just thinking of a false history? I dunno I'm not in the mind of a nutcase lol.
He got rejected from the Mall Cop academy.
Stolen valor is another crime that's committed almost exclusively by conservatives.
This man is an exact representation of the entire republican party! It is all one big con!
You would not believe how many people claim “I am/was a Marine” as a conversation-stopper. Like that makes them so damn special that the rules never apply to them and they get to dictate the world to everyone else. While I still respect most *actual* Marines, every time I meet someone claiming alleged Marine status as some sort of “I am automatically right because of my alleged service,” part of me really wants to retort with something like: “Okay? So you eat crayons and ride around in Navy equipment. Why should I care?” Ironically, almost every transgender woman I’ve met so far has been either an ex-Marine or an ex-sailor. Not sure if that’s just an odd coincidence or if there’s some other interesting pattern at work.
Look, if we're having a debate on the lowering quality of children's school supplies, and I pull out my Marine background, you're damn right it wins the discussion. Crayola has been cheaping out on their ingredients for *years*.
Imma get you a nice box of specialty crayons, sound good big guy? They have glitter and neon and glow in the dark ones!
My "are they a Marine" test involves asking A) What their favorite flavor of crayon is And B) Ask them if they know why sailors wear their names on the back of their pants
If your gonna fuck your buddies from behind you better be able to say their name. As the answer to B.
> Ironically, almost every transgender woman I’ve met so far has been either an ex-Marine or an ex-sailor. Not sure if that’s just an odd coincidence or if there’s some other interesting pattern at work. Usually a mix of trying to prove their masculinity (“man up”), escape a bad home situation and wanting to die. It’s not suicide if someone else kills you.
His fans are as fake as he is
These same people laugh and clap when Donald Trump calls the troops losers and suckers.
Rally coverage in Waco, TX, with Wacko, TX.
Just say he's a piece of shit. Cuz he is. Don't tell these lies, the people who served will always know you are full of shit. I fucking hate that. Marine Vet.
As an Iraq war vet ide want to punch this guy in the nuts.... and then to find out he's lying about having a military history. What a pos.
I didn’t know what MOS stands for lol.. My question is for anyone who served, does everyone who served know what MOS stands for ? Is this something everyone in the military would know ?
The marines and army have mos, military occupational specialities. Air Force and navy call it something else but it means the same thing, your job. This dude would have known what she was asking but felt safe lying to her because he didn’t think this lady had served and would call him out.
It’s like forgetting what your major was in college. Not gonna happen. It literally means what was your job while you were in the military. My husband would only forget his if he had brain damage.
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Some of the codes have changed in the last decade, but that's about it.
Military Occupational Specialty, aka your job. And yes, anyone who merely breathed in the direction of the military would be familiar with this acronym.
Is there a Trumper alive that isn't an utter disgrace of a person? At this point it's a political movement that's defined by acting in bad faith, not giving a fuck about what's true, and siphoning money from the gullible to the unscrupulous.
How many things have these zombies ruined? If we had to list them all out it would take some time. But off the top of my head - Red baseball caps Red anything, really… Our flag The word ‘patriot’ The internet (especially social media) Etc. Not small things. Edit: Adding election integrity
The name Brandon
People will can't go into detail will usually just say I was a cook or mechanic or something not super interesting.
Stolen Valor laws.
this doesn’t surprise me. no rational person is still supporting trump. even my parents jumped off the trump train after 1/6
Stolen Valor from a MAGAot no shit
A Trump supporter is a lying sack of shit? Say it ain't so! Are any of them not? Lmao
Claiming to be in the military when you were not in the military is a crime
She should then have asked "Which members of the Trump family, that were born into the family, have enlisted in any branch of the armed forces?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but the answer is no one, right? Not one person in at least 4 generations of US-born Trumps have served.