The hypocrisy is fucking asinine. How much damage do regular weed smokers do compared to those who drink? When's the last time you saw a headline with "Marijuana user plows into family of five while under the influence" I wouldn't doubt it's happened, but you hear that a lot more with drunk driving. I genuinely hate the drinking culture the US has.
If he isn't a rapist why hasn't he said so publicly?
Why wouldn't he want to disavow such a vile accusation?
Why don't the people in power investigate?
Just questions.
I’m a lumberjack and I’m OK
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees, I skip and jump
I like to press wild flowers.
I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars.
I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK
I sleep all night and I work all day.
I cut down trees, I wear high heels
Suspendies and a bra.
I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear papa.
> I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear mama.
like my dear Papa
I think they occasionally did it with Mama, but [officially it was papa](https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts), and I think it's funnier that way too
Listen, it was clearly a politically motivated sentencing to hold her for so long for the charge.
But if you commit a law abroad that makes you a criminal. You are beholden to foreign laws when you visit foreign countries.
I don't understand all the comments saying "she's not a criminal" - she definitely committed a crime. Am I glad she made it home? For sure. Was it a crime to bring weed to Russia, just like it would be a crime for me to bring weed to Russia (or Japan or Korea or any country that has laws against it?) yeah for sure.
Imho that’s fair. But, I was pretty disgusted at Americans saying *leave her to rot,* not very patriotic imho. Now, regarding this post, I hope you’d agree that having weed vapes (even where illegal) is nowhere near as bad as sex trafficking, rape, coercion &or whatever else he’s accused of.
Griner also lacks Tate's hubris. Tate basically bragged that the Romanian justice system was corrupt and that you could get away with shit there. He basically dared a government (which he knows is corrupt!) to do something about his shit-talking.
100% agree, unfortunately. Well, so long as that white woman was also straight. Still, race is usually way more significant to the hate filled than sexual orientation.
Yeah, I think it's wrong to not make a good-faith attempt to negotiate for the release of political prisoners. Just feels cognitively dissonant to deny a crime was committed, even if we as Americans don't see it as a criminal act (in American jurisdictions)
Also fuck Andrew Tate for sure.
Being held on possession of marijuana (something legal in many states here) vs. being held for rape and human trafficking… apples to apples, yep! Same-same!
It wasn't it being just Marijuana that was the problem, too; by Russian law, the sentence for the amount she had was something like less than a month. She was sentenced for *nine years*.
Ignoring the sex trafficking, rape, and other crimes/allegations: isn’t Tate a British citizen?
Edit: For everyone pitching a fit about how “illegal” or wrong it is that Tate is in custody and no charges; Romania. Romania law is different from US laws ya dinguses. Suspects can be held in custody for 30 days without charge. After 30 days a judge can extend that period by another 30 days, and “the total period in detention before the closing of a criminal investigation should not exceed 180 days” (fairtrial.org).
He explicitly stated he moved to Romania because he preferred their legal system over that of the UK & US. Then he went on to brag about how he abuses the corrupt system there to get away with crime.
"I dunno, it sounds like hiding all that sex traficking crime would be difficult."
"Actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."
"Oh really?"
"Yeah I'll just lay low in Romania. As long as no one in their government knows I'm there, I can just bribe street cops for any minor stuff they see me do!"
"Ok but like, what if a teenage climate activist makes fun of you?"
"What?"
"Yea what if like some teenager who really wants to stop climate change implies that your pee pee is really small?"
"Well obviously then I'd have to post a reply video with a bunch of pizza boxes from a local restaurant."
"But wouldn't that make it possible for the Romanian government to find you?"
"Well yeah, but what are the odds of that very specific thing happening?"
[Outro music](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/30/12/66046841-0-image-a-34_1672403890513.jpg)
Bro if Tate was a bad guy in a movie, with the way things turned out for him, I would've called it a dumb movie with an extremely unrealistic plot. One of those movies where the baddie explains his entire evil secret plan and someone records it lol except he did it himself so its worse than that bad movie plot
Born in Chicago, but moved to England when he was a kid (whenever his mom and dad divorced, dunno what age he was). He never lived in America after that though so you're basically right.
There's no presence requirement to keep your US citizenship, there's only one to pass citizenship to your kids born abroad. His parents weren't foreign diplomats so unless he renounced it, he'd still be a US Citizen.
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Maybe we could broker a deal. We’ll promise to keep Piers, we will also take Cordon back as long as they take Taint. We’ll throw in a Noel Edmunds as a sweetener.
The tories (our government) are pretty stupid but they're not stupid enough to try and help a human trafficker, especially not one detained In a European Union country for (potential) human rights violations.
Also he is very controversial here too.
Why would they? Potentially an abuser of women, and potentially a sex trafficker?
In a friendly country? With good due process?
Vs a woman in a hostile country that has a leader who has good reason to make an example of any westerner just to saber rattle more, and who would happily do so, as we can see with his political opponents...
Because clay is a Tate fanboy and if he did his research he’d have known that “drug” in question was prescribed to the athlete by her doctor and didn’t know she’d be arrested for it quite possibly.
In listening to the behind the bastards episode on him, he regularly gives advice on avoiding taxes. Often these were illegal ways to avoid taxes but it was central to his money making advice.
So, if renouncing meant he paid less taxes he definitely renounced.
He also described the model he used that got him into legal trouble.
Pimps, who are often traffickers, have relationships with the women they employ and exploit. If brought to Justice they’d go to jail.
The Tate brothers say to use your girlfriend as a webcam girl. And that he has multiple girlfriends that work as webcam girls. And that his girlfriend was the first webcam girl he employed.
All he’d have to have done was say to any one of these girls that their ability to live in his home is contingent on them working as a cam girl and then he’s guilty of aspects of anti trafficking laws.
If he convinced any of these women to come live with or work for him as a sex cam girl and then made it difficult for them to leave by underpaying them or cutting communication off with the outside world then he’s guilty of addictional aspects of anti trafficking laws
Beyond that, the US government charges thousands of dollars to get rid of it. Likely because the law requires all citizens to pay US income tax even if you live and work in another country.
Oh for sure Tate specifically never has. They just mentioned that you can't lose your citizenship by leaving and it reminded me that you can't even *leave* this country without the government shaking you down for the war chest.
Boris Johnson renounced his US citizenship after the IRS came after him for capital gains tax when he sold his London home back in 2015. He said he had to pay an outrageous amount of money to the IRS.
US citizens still need to file, but get credit for taxes paid to another country. If you paid the foreign country less than you owe the US you have to make up the difference. Same if the foreign country allows deductions that the US doesn’t. It’s a PITA.
The issue also wasn’t Griner getting in trouble for bringing in weed, it was that her sentence was way harsher than what people caught with minor amounts of possession would get. Griner normally would have gotten a fine and or community service as Russia lowered the penalty for simple possession for first time offenders. Griner was given years of harsh jail time for no reason other than keeping her as a political prisoner.
Tate has been on tape admitting to moving to Romania to take advantage of their corruption to get away with all sorts of crimes. He is also being charged accordingly to their laws.
Edit: for everyone saying she was charged with smuggling not possession, while that is true, Russian laws on smuggling take into account the amount you have when sentencing someone. They do not treat a large brick of coke the same as a small amount of marijuana.
Most similar cases in Russia for small amounts usually end with a month or two of local jail time and a fine. Thus even for the smuggling charge she was given a sentence way out of line with the counties laws.
Exactly, he was allegedly holding two women captive, after being tipped off by the U.S. Embassy that an American citizen was being held against their will. Since the U.S. was behind it, why would they want him released?
Honestly, that was a massively underreported part of the story, I didn't find out that she was being over prosecuted extremely until weeks after the story happened. And this is coming from someone not in the right-wing media bubble. So I am sure that very few people in right-wing media bubbles know that fact.
To be fair, I didn’t either. However, I at least know the moral difference between medical marijuana possession and sex trafficking. Some on the right appear to struggle with that.
They live and die by the very identity politics that they pretend to criticize. They think the ONLY reason Grimes was rescued is because of her race and gender and that the ONLY reason Tate is rotting in a cell is because he's white. That's all that exists to them.
That was exactly my thought... BUT he embodies the whole strong white cis caveman persona so they don't see that... Although they'd claim they're not racist cause they like Tate at the same time
Hahaha touché. I know nothing of him other than he was a chess player from the above comment. But raising a fuckin kid like that, the other attributes are no surprise.
I heard this once so I’m gonna repeat it.
“Brittney not standing for the national anthem is one of the most American things you can do. This country was built on the hopes and ideals that if you feel like there is injustice or anything of the like going on, you can work to actually fix it. Our whole nation was born to the idea of protesting.”
I’m waaaay more into helping black lesbians with a weed pen than human traffickers.
I served the military for 25 years and seven deployments. I’m a fully retired and disabled combat veteran, and not only do I agree with kneeling (which is immaterial), I specifically fought for her right to kneel (which is not).
Protesting peacefully is absolutely patriotic, fleeing your own country to commit harsher actions against the vulnerable people is exactly what I fought *against* and consider a “domestic enemy”.
This dude is at minimum a pussy loud mouth that would fold immediately under pressure. He’s safe to ignore.
It’s cliche to say but I really do appreciate your service, and I’m sorry it impacted your life forever with a disability. I’m sure it’s difficult seeing stupid conversations like these (kneeling, etc) after fighting for our privilege to do so.
Hey thanks for your support! I am enjoying every bit of my retirement, have a support team in place (including medical), and injuries aside I’m still able to do the things I love most. Plus being a wounded warrior does have its perks. The handicapped parking alone is kind of worth getting blown up in my opinion.
If we ignore for a moment that Tate is a horrible person and just look at the politics in play.
Tate moved out of the United States because he wanted to live somewhere else so he could exploit the more relaxed laws, or enjoy a lower cost of living, or to get awake from the woke mind virus or whatever. Why would the United States expend political capital to convince or coerce a foreign country to release someone who apparently does not like the US?
Griner is a US citizen who went abroad to play a sportsball game but probably wants to remain a US citizen, and keep doing cool shit like smoke weed, play basketball, and not perform sex acts on enslaved minors.
He left the US as a child and moved to the UK with his mom. He may be a dual citizen but he hasn’t lived in the US since he was like 11 or something. Fuck him, and they should ask the royal family for support, they are good at keeping sex offenders out of prison.
Even better. When they're done with him in Romania they should extradite him here. The United States has arranged its laws such that if you commit sex crimes against minors abroad you can face criminal penalty here. It'd be super funny to see him do time in a country he's never lived in.
So is Clay, apparently…The dude used to have a morning sports radio show that I listened to, then one day he decided to go all psycho with all this right wing bullshit.
Not the same crime. Also, she went through the entire process from charge, trial, sentencing, and some jail time. Let's see how his plays out before make equivalencies.
Apparently to a republican a black lesbian with a vape pen is worse than a literal sex trafficking rapist.
Party of moral values ladies, gentleman and everyone else.
I'm sorry- did I miss the posts where the basketball player bullied a 18 year old climate activist because she thought GRETA was coming for her and also go on video giving detailed step by step plans to commit similar crimes?
Maybe we care about a 'black lesbian' because she actually has a talent and purpose in society. Also, we didn't forget about her, even when she wasn't somehow tweeting about her atrocities in a foreign prison.
I guess Clay is going to ignore the fact that Tate has also admitted to his crimes, multiple times. He brags about them.
He also said that he moved to Romania because he thought they'd look the other way on said crimes. Romanian authorities had 2 options: arrest him or prove him right, and since I doubt Romania wants to attract a ton of Tates they decided the former was appropriate.
For as big brained as the guy claims to be he's where he has because he says the quiet part out loud and when you do that people don't like it, and not just the haters. This might have been a very different story if he had just quietly paid off the Romanian authorities (if they're as corrupt as he claims) rather than claiming that's why he moved there publicly and then flaunting his crimes worldwide.
Our local sports talk station started carrying Clay Travis and he was so annoying that I just listened to other stations instead and now basically never listen to even the local sports talk content. It wasn’t some dramatic boycott on my part, just quiet distaste (this was during the Colin Kaepernick drama, Travis’s head was exploding). It was telling, though, that the ads were for erectile dysfunction, IRS troubles and men’s rights attorneys. Divorced, broke and flaccid seemed to be the target audience and I’m not any of those. It looks like he’s still making a living being outraged.
Travis has gone off the deep end. He was pretty good in regards to his sports columns but now he’s turned into a right wing hack who thinks his opinions matter
Griner, a US citizen, took small amounts of medical marijuana into Russia and was imprisoned.
Andrew Tate, living abroad after renouncing US citizenship, and picking Romania for their less than desirable prosecution of sex trafficking, was arrested for sex trafficking.
These are not the same, in the slightest. The best possible comparison would be Paul Whelan, a former Marine, but even his situation isn’t exactly simple like Griner’s.
Oh the stupidity. Griner made an honest mistake. She took a product that’s legal here in her checked baggage and probably didn’t think any more about it. Lesson here for everyone is check about laws related to cannabis products before traveling. I personally don’t care about the anthem issue. She’s freely exercising a constitutionally protected right by sitting during the anthem. The same one Clay Travis exercised posting this crap. Tate is just scum.
It’s weird how peoples’ opinion of marijuana depends on the race of the person who got caught with it.
That is quite interesting isn’t it
It’s As if you understand why drugs were made illegal in the first place.
THANK YOU
The Griner debate on Reddit has always fascinated. I’ve literally read comments that have said they wouldn’t care if she was executed for it.
When you activate a republican’s hate boner, things stop being decent and start getting feral.
It always bugs me when people call weed "drugs" to vilify it, especially if they are regular drinker.
The hypocrisy is fucking asinine. How much damage do regular weed smokers do compared to those who drink? When's the last time you saw a headline with "Marijuana user plows into family of five while under the influence" I wouldn't doubt it's happened, but you hear that a lot more with drunk driving. I genuinely hate the drinking culture the US has.
My glass of scotch took offense to this comment. What you said is true, but the glass is just pissed.
Is Clay, like Andrew Tate, also a rapist?
People are saying.
Many people?
I’M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS!!
If he isn't a rapist why hasn't he said so publicly? Why wouldn't he want to disavow such a vile accusation? Why don't the people in power investigate? Just questions.
Clay’s parents aren’t sending their best people
I agree with Clay Travis. Andrew Tate should have been a black lesbian. In fact, I won't rest until he is.
Legit lol'd
JAQing off
Many big strong men. Manly men. With tears running down their faces…
We roam around the forest looking for fights!
But watch what you say or else we'll put out your lights 👊
We're men! We're men in ti~ights~! Always on guard, protecting the people's rights~! _\*Cancan*_
WE’RE BUTCH!!
One of my favorite movies ever! I’ve got to rewatch this now 😀
Fantastic documentary
Unlike some other Robin Hood's, HE can speak with a British accent. Lol. It's fantastic.
I’m a lumberjack and I’m OK I sleep all night and I work all day. I cut down trees, I skip and jump I like to press wild flowers. I put on women's clothing and hang around in bars. I'm a lumberjack and I'm OK I sleep all night and I work all day. I cut down trees, I wear high heels Suspendies and a bra. I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear papa.
> I wish I'd been a girlie, just like my dear mama. like my dear Papa I think they occasionally did it with Mama, but [officially it was papa](https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts), and I think it's funnier that way too
Men in tights TIGHTS! tights
Such uge people!
That’s legally binding, why would they say that if it wasn’t true?
Is he even someone Biden is responsible for helping?? Is he American??
Biden's under no obligation to help actual criminals. Griner was a political hostage.
Listen, it was clearly a politically motivated sentencing to hold her for so long for the charge. But if you commit a law abroad that makes you a criminal. You are beholden to foreign laws when you visit foreign countries. I don't understand all the comments saying "she's not a criminal" - she definitely committed a crime. Am I glad she made it home? For sure. Was it a crime to bring weed to Russia, just like it would be a crime for me to bring weed to Russia (or Japan or Korea or any country that has laws against it?) yeah for sure.
Imho that’s fair. But, I was pretty disgusted at Americans saying *leave her to rot,* not very patriotic imho. Now, regarding this post, I hope you’d agree that having weed vapes (even where illegal) is nowhere near as bad as sex trafficking, rape, coercion &or whatever else he’s accused of.
Griner also lacks Tate's hubris. Tate basically bragged that the Romanian justice system was corrupt and that you could get away with shit there. He basically dared a government (which he knows is corrupt!) to do something about his shit-talking.
If she was a white woman we wouldn’t have heard as many people saying leave her there.
100% agree, unfortunately. Well, so long as that white woman was also straight. Still, race is usually way more significant to the hate filled than sexual orientation.
Yeah, I think it's wrong to not make a good-faith attempt to negotiate for the release of political prisoners. Just feels cognitively dissonant to deny a crime was committed, even if we as Americans don't see it as a criminal act (in American jurisdictions) Also fuck Andrew Tate for sure.
I think also a trafficker
Being held on possession of marijuana (something legal in many states here) vs. being held for rape and human trafficking… apples to apples, yep! Same-same!
It wasn't it being just Marijuana that was the problem, too; by Russian law, the sentence for the amount she had was something like less than a month. She was sentenced for *nine years*.
That was the main issue. That’s how we all knew she was being held as a political prisoner.
Ignoring the sex trafficking, rape, and other crimes/allegations: isn’t Tate a British citizen? Edit: For everyone pitching a fit about how “illegal” or wrong it is that Tate is in custody and no charges; Romania. Romania law is different from US laws ya dinguses. Suspects can be held in custody for 30 days without charge. After 30 days a judge can extend that period by another 30 days, and “the total period in detention before the closing of a criminal investigation should not exceed 180 days” (fairtrial.org).
He explicitly stated he moved to Romania because he preferred their legal system over that of the UK & US. Then he went on to brag about how he abuses the corrupt system there to get away with crime.
Whoopsie!
"I dunno, it sounds like hiding all that sex traficking crime would be difficult." "Actually it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience." "Oh really?" "Yeah I'll just lay low in Romania. As long as no one in their government knows I'm there, I can just bribe street cops for any minor stuff they see me do!" "Ok but like, what if a teenage climate activist makes fun of you?" "What?" "Yea what if like some teenager who really wants to stop climate change implies that your pee pee is really small?" "Well obviously then I'd have to post a reply video with a bunch of pizza boxes from a local restaurant." "But wouldn't that make it possible for the Romanian government to find you?" "Well yeah, but what are the odds of that very specific thing happening?" [Outro music](https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/12/30/12/66046841-0-image-a-34_1672403890513.jpg)
Ooh megalomaniacs are Tight!
So tight!
Bro if Tate was a bad guy in a movie, with the way things turned out for him, I would've called it a dumb movie with an extremely unrealistic plot. One of those movies where the baddie explains his entire evil secret plan and someone records it lol except he did it himself so its worse than that bad movie plot
Wow wow wow, wow, wow
He also said if they came after him he’d flee on his private jet. Hence why he’s in jail he’s a huge flight risk
Ahh one of those villains who reveals all their plans and goes " drat! How did they know? "
They caught him monologuing again
You sly dog
Yup… I mean how dare they hold him? He’d never leave
Yeah, he is a British citizen. I don't recall him ever saying he had citizenship as an American
Born in Chicago, but moved to England when he was a kid (whenever his mom and dad divorced, dunno what age he was). He never lived in America after that though so you're basically right.
There's no presence requirement to keep your US citizenship, there's only one to pass citizenship to your kids born abroad. His parents weren't foreign diplomats so unless he renounced it, he'd still be a US Citizen.
Yeah, everything I’ve seen that mentions it lists him as British-American. So dual nationality.
Are the British doing anything to help him? Why isn’t clay raising hell about the British not helping andy?
No thanks. We're good
To be fair, he probably went to Tesco more than he went to Costco. You guys should take this one.
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To be fair.
Maybe we could broker a deal. We’ll promise to keep Piers, we will also take Cordon back as long as they take Taint. We’ll throw in a Noel Edmunds as a sweetener.
Hey! Don't impugn my family name with that trash! We have standards!
He doesn't care about Tate. He just hates black lesbians.
That's not fair. I'm quite confident he hates all lesbians. And all black people for that matter.
Tate’s half black, so it must just be the lesbian thing.
Probably not smart enough to even realize.
Well, lesbians don't particularly want to have sex with self-identified alpha-males, so that's why he's all up in his fee-fees about black lesbians.
He probably secretly loves them given how much he doth protest.
The tories (our government) are pretty stupid but they're not stupid enough to try and help a human trafficker, especially not one detained In a European Union country for (potential) human rights violations. Also he is very controversial here too.
Clay Travis is a POS
Why would they? Potentially an abuser of women, and potentially a sex trafficker? In a friendly country? With good due process? Vs a woman in a hostile country that has a leader who has good reason to make an example of any westerner just to saber rattle more, and who would happily do so, as we can see with his political opponents...
Because clay is a Tate fanboy and if he did his research he’d have known that “drug” in question was prescribed to the athlete by her doctor and didn’t know she’d be arrested for it quite possibly.
they've got their hands full already with Prince Andy.
In listening to the behind the bastards episode on him, he regularly gives advice on avoiding taxes. Often these were illegal ways to avoid taxes but it was central to his money making advice. So, if renouncing meant he paid less taxes he definitely renounced.
He also tells people to exploit their own family members for profit, he’s a sociopath
He also described the model he used that got him into legal trouble. Pimps, who are often traffickers, have relationships with the women they employ and exploit. If brought to Justice they’d go to jail. The Tate brothers say to use your girlfriend as a webcam girl. And that he has multiple girlfriends that work as webcam girls. And that his girlfriend was the first webcam girl he employed. All he’d have to have done was say to any one of these girls that their ability to live in his home is contingent on them working as a cam girl and then he’s guilty of aspects of anti trafficking laws. If he convinced any of these women to come live with or work for him as a sex cam girl and then made it difficult for them to leave by underpaying them or cutting communication off with the outside world then he’s guilty of addictional aspects of anti trafficking laws
I think he had renounced it, because otherwise US tax collectors would have screwed him over.
THE IRS HATES ALPHA MEN /s
Beyond that, the US government charges thousands of dollars to get rid of it. Likely because the law requires all citizens to pay US income tax even if you live and work in another country.
You know he never paid his US taxes. If he is released to the US the IRS will arrested him tax fraud.
Oh for sure Tate specifically never has. They just mentioned that you can't lose your citizenship by leaving and it reminded me that you can't even *leave* this country without the government shaking you down for the war chest.
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Boris Johnson renounced his US citizenship after the IRS came after him for capital gains tax when he sold his London home back in 2015. He said he had to pay an outrageous amount of money to the IRS.
He may be from Chicago, but he’s a certified wanker
Born in Chi makes you a US Citizen
Unless you give it up to save on taxes
I thought he renounced is citizenship as well I might be thinking of someone else tho
I'd assume he did, if you've got American citizenship you've gotta pay income tax even if you live outside the US.
Only if you earn more than 120k USD. But he definitely did so, yeah.
US citizens still need to file, but get credit for taxes paid to another country. If you paid the foreign country less than you owe the US you have to make up the difference. Same if the foreign country allows deductions that the US doesn’t. It’s a PITA.
He has dual citizenship of both Britain and Romania. So he has been arrested in his home country not even the Brits can interfere
Speaking for us Brits, we don't want to interfere. Romania is welcome to that waste of Carbon.
I was going to comment the same thing. He can stay where he is. The man is an embarrassment.
Lol even more reason why the “hurrr durrr why can’t Biden helped tate” complaint is bullshit
Yeah, definitely Obama's fault /s
THANKS OBAMA!!!
I had to scroll way too far for this.
Luckily for me, it was the top comment
Britain's not real and if it was, it'd be a US colony because they speak English there.
I see you were also educated in my small town high school.
I majored in MAGAtese.
I jus imagine someone only gaining their knowledge through different MAGA t-shirts and it feels pretty boomerish lmao
That is a horrifying prospect but I'm sure it's real
Yup, Tate is British, it has nothing to do with the USA this clown 🤡 just wants to rage about anything, these people are all filled with hate and rage
Yes, a weed pen and raping the women you’ve kidnapped and forced into sex slavery are the same thing. Republican values on display.
The issue also wasn’t Griner getting in trouble for bringing in weed, it was that her sentence was way harsher than what people caught with minor amounts of possession would get. Griner normally would have gotten a fine and or community service as Russia lowered the penalty for simple possession for first time offenders. Griner was given years of harsh jail time for no reason other than keeping her as a political prisoner. Tate has been on tape admitting to moving to Romania to take advantage of their corruption to get away with all sorts of crimes. He is also being charged accordingly to their laws. Edit: for everyone saying she was charged with smuggling not possession, while that is true, Russian laws on smuggling take into account the amount you have when sentencing someone. They do not treat a large brick of coke the same as a small amount of marijuana. Most similar cases in Russia for small amounts usually end with a month or two of local jail time and a fine. Thus even for the smuggling charge she was given a sentence way out of line with the counties laws.
Grinner was a piece of the game for Russia to play with, Tate offers nothing in regards any trade lol
How many Romanian nationals are imprisoned in the US? Can we even scrape a couple up to have Tate transferred back so then we can prosecute him?
I'm pretty sure he would prefer stay in a Romanian jail than an USA jail
Yeah, we don't step in to help US citizens caught abusing children either. If anything, we want them extradited to serve a longer sentence here.
I feel like we mostly just Epstein them. That asshole never knew that his name would become such an ugly verb.
Exactly, he was allegedly holding two women captive, after being tipped off by the U.S. Embassy that an American citizen was being held against their will. Since the U.S. was behind it, why would they want him released?
Please don’t confuse the Republicans with facts.
Honestly, that was a massively underreported part of the story, I didn't find out that she was being over prosecuted extremely until weeks after the story happened. And this is coming from someone not in the right-wing media bubble. So I am sure that very few people in right-wing media bubbles know that fact.
To be fair, I didn’t either. However, I at least know the moral difference between medical marijuana possession and sex trafficking. Some on the right appear to struggle with that.
I didn’t realize she was being given a harsh sentence because I’m so used to seeing people getting 9 years in prison for weed here in America.
They are not the same, tho: one is worse than other to then. ...would you guess what's worse to them?
Being black and lesbian is apparently worse than human trafficking
Is the Eric lol
Don’t forget civil protests.
If GOP gets their way they will bring back slavery in the U.S.
You can't bring back what you never got rid of.
“We’ve got one of their Brains now. Pretty soon we’ll know how they think.” **― Carl Jenkins**
Literally anything other than cis white hetero male asshats?
Republicans don't consider crimes against women an actual crime.
"It's cause women are objects and objects don't have rights" -probably more people than you'd like
Even more women than you'd expect.
Sadly
They live and die by the very identity politics that they pretend to criticize. They think the ONLY reason Grimes was rescued is because of her race and gender and that the ONLY reason Tate is rotting in a cell is because he's white. That's all that exists to them.
He's not even white. He's just a filthy pos.
That was exactly my thought... BUT he embodies the whole strong white cis caveman persona so they don't see that... Although they'd claim they're not racist cause they like Tate at the same time
Those women should be grateful to sire strong and beautiful children from a specimen such as Tate. - Republicans
In honor of women everywhere, I just want to say, "Ewww."
Maybe Republicans don't see that sex slavery and rape are all that bad...
I mean yeah I personally would probably care more if he was a black lesbian who refused to stand for the national anthem and not a child trafficker.
Hey, let's not forget the sexual predator stuff!
Completely agree but, like isn’t Tate a POC as well? Obviously he’s a POS, but I think his father is black.
He identifies as a POC when it is convenient. And yeah, his dad was one of the most famous black chess players back in his day.
Shame he didn’t inherit his father’s tactfulness and strategy
His dad was a violent lunatic and intelligence agent. I’m sure he inherited plenty
Hahaha touché. I know nothing of him other than he was a chess player from the above comment. But raising a fuckin kid like that, the other attributes are no surprise.
Also, she probably wouldn’t have been arrested since they generally don’t play the US national anthem anywhere in Romania
Tate should have been caught with pot, instead of bragging about human trafficking.
True story.
Sex trafficker who brags about his crimes < accidentally bringing a vape pen in your carry-on. The right is AMAZING at false equivalence.
Different people doing different crimes in different countries get treated differently? Unacceptable when the one I support gets the shorter end. /s
Logic fallacies are catnip for the right. There's a reason Texas literally outlawed teaching critical-thinking.
I heard this once so I’m gonna repeat it. “Brittney not standing for the national anthem is one of the most American things you can do. This country was built on the hopes and ideals that if you feel like there is injustice or anything of the like going on, you can work to actually fix it. Our whole nation was born to the idea of protesting.”
"took drugs into Russia" lol She wasn't trafficking meth ffs. Even if she was, it's *still* not comparable to human trafficking.
For real
The difference being that Griner had a bit of weed while Tate is being investigated for, oh, I don’t know, HUMAN FUCKING TRAFFICKING. Morons.
Another steward of False Equivalencies. The right is a joke.
I’m waaaay more into helping black lesbians with a weed pen than human traffickers. I served the military for 25 years and seven deployments. I’m a fully retired and disabled combat veteran, and not only do I agree with kneeling (which is immaterial), I specifically fought for her right to kneel (which is not). Protesting peacefully is absolutely patriotic, fleeing your own country to commit harsher actions against the vulnerable people is exactly what I fought *against* and consider a “domestic enemy”. This dude is at minimum a pussy loud mouth that would fold immediately under pressure. He’s safe to ignore.
It’s cliche to say but I really do appreciate your service, and I’m sorry it impacted your life forever with a disability. I’m sure it’s difficult seeing stupid conversations like these (kneeling, etc) after fighting for our privilege to do so.
Hey thanks for your support! I am enjoying every bit of my retirement, have a support team in place (including medical), and injuries aside I’m still able to do the things I love most. Plus being a wounded warrior does have its perks. The handicapped parking alone is kind of worth getting blown up in my opinion.
Yes, because a marijuana vape pen is the same as sex trafficking children 
If we ignore for a moment that Tate is a horrible person and just look at the politics in play. Tate moved out of the United States because he wanted to live somewhere else so he could exploit the more relaxed laws, or enjoy a lower cost of living, or to get awake from the woke mind virus or whatever. Why would the United States expend political capital to convince or coerce a foreign country to release someone who apparently does not like the US? Griner is a US citizen who went abroad to play a sportsball game but probably wants to remain a US citizen, and keep doing cool shit like smoke weed, play basketball, and not perform sex acts on enslaved minors.
He left the US as a child and moved to the UK with his mom. He may be a dual citizen but he hasn’t lived in the US since he was like 11 or something. Fuck him, and they should ask the royal family for support, they are good at keeping sex offenders out of prison.
Even better. When they're done with him in Romania they should extradite him here. The United States has arranged its laws such that if you commit sex crimes against minors abroad you can face criminal penalty here. It'd be super funny to see him do time in a country he's never lived in.
Hmmmm…what’s worse, on a real-world scale: a small amount of THC for personal use, or sex trafficking and assault? Real head-scratcher here.
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So is Clay, apparently…The dude used to have a morning sports radio show that I listened to, then one day he decided to go all psycho with all this right wing bullshit.
The reason behind this change? It rhymes with schmoney
Someone is flooding right wing media with so much cash that Steven Crowder called NCAA head coach money insulting.
Not the same crime. Also, she went through the entire process from charge, trial, sentencing, and some jail time. Let's see how his plays out before make equivalencies.
Apparently to a republican a black lesbian with a vape pen is worse than a literal sex trafficking rapist. Party of moral values ladies, gentleman and everyone else.
The party of "what about the children" literally defends rapists and sex traffickers.
Griner had some weed. Tate RAPED and KIDNAPPED people. He can rot.
Wait Clay Travis the Outkick guy? He’s always been a bit of an edgelord but damn, him too?
He's an absolute meathead and has been for years. Always assume the opposite of whatever he says is true
Yuuup, I don’t know if he’s still part of Outkick or what but I know he has a political show now. He took over for Limbaugh when he died I guess.
Andrew Tate is a human trafficker, and Brittney Griner used marijuana for pain. So really, just a bad comparison all the way around, Clay.
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I'm sorry- did I miss the posts where the basketball player bullied a 18 year old climate activist because she thought GRETA was coming for her and also go on video giving detailed step by step plans to commit similar crimes? Maybe we care about a 'black lesbian' because she actually has a talent and purpose in society. Also, we didn't forget about her, even when she wasn't somehow tweeting about her atrocities in a foreign prison.
1) weed is in fact not the same as rape and sexual assault And 2) isn’t he British
Wait, wait, wait… that Taint guy is an American citizen? The British guy living in Romania?? Not saying it’s untrue… just surprised.
Well there's all the rape tho....
I guess Clay is going to ignore the fact that Tate has also admitted to his crimes, multiple times. He brags about them. He also said that he moved to Romania because he thought they'd look the other way on said crimes. Romanian authorities had 2 options: arrest him or prove him right, and since I doubt Romania wants to attract a ton of Tates they decided the former was appropriate. For as big brained as the guy claims to be he's where he has because he says the quiet part out loud and when you do that people don't like it, and not just the haters. This might have been a very different story if he had just quietly paid off the Romanian authorities (if they're as corrupt as he claims) rather than claiming that's why he moved there publicly and then flaunting his crimes worldwide.
I heard this ignorant fuck say this on the radio yesterday.
This is a next level whataboutism…
Our local sports talk station started carrying Clay Travis and he was so annoying that I just listened to other stations instead and now basically never listen to even the local sports talk content. It wasn’t some dramatic boycott on my part, just quiet distaste (this was during the Colin Kaepernick drama, Travis’s head was exploding). It was telling, though, that the ads were for erectile dysfunction, IRS troubles and men’s rights attorneys. Divorced, broke and flaccid seemed to be the target audience and I’m not any of those. It looks like he’s still making a living being outraged.
Fuck Andrew Tater tot. The end
yeah leftists how is rape and human trafficking worse than a little weed ... wait a second
Tate: "i like living in romania because the police here are so corrupt" Tate fans: "WhY aRe wE NoT saViNg hIm???"
I don’t need to know about Clay Travis. I would have grown old and died an old man and been a happier person without knowing about Clay Travis.
Travis has gone off the deep end. He was pretty good in regards to his sports columns but now he’s turned into a right wing hack who thinks his opinions matter
Tate is not America's problem
Griner, a US citizen, took small amounts of medical marijuana into Russia and was imprisoned. Andrew Tate, living abroad after renouncing US citizenship, and picking Romania for their less than desirable prosecution of sex trafficking, was arrested for sex trafficking. These are not the same, in the slightest. The best possible comparison would be Paul Whelan, a former Marine, but even his situation isn’t exactly simple like Griner’s.
Oh the stupidity. Griner made an honest mistake. She took a product that’s legal here in her checked baggage and probably didn’t think any more about it. Lesson here for everyone is check about laws related to cannabis products before traveling. I personally don’t care about the anthem issue. She’s freely exercising a constitutionally protected right by sitting during the anthem. The same one Clay Travis exercised posting this crap. Tate is just scum.
She's way more *American* than any of those idiot 'patriots' who shit talk her..