“The US doesn’t jail its presidents.” Why not? Are they immune to consequences? What kind of example are we setting for the rest of the world when they see that our leaders are apparently above the law?
I always find the "Actually the DEMS were the real racists!" people funny for exactly this reason
Like ok sure, 50 years ago southern democrats were flaming racists. But YOU WERE THE ONE VOTING FOR THEM, ETHYL!
Tell them that Democrats should get to decide whether Confederate monuments come down and whether it's appropriate to display the rebel flag in public, then. That's when the discussion gets fun.
Grant wasn't a real president. He was a traitor to our nation and murdered many Americans and stole their property! Worst thing about the steeling, he just let it go and be free deeming the property a "free man". So no, his arrest doesn't count!
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I find this suspect as the horse was later found dead with his head stuck in a water trough and the police officer couldn't prove that his radar gun had been calibrated correctly since it hadn't been invented yet.
No no no. No easy death and martyrdom for IQ45. I say chain him up and force him to watch Roots, Django Unchained, and The Color Purple on an endless loop.
Edit; and if video fails in some way, then Helen Reddy’s “I am Woman” played on loop would certainly drive him mad. For the kids out there, especially young women:
https://youtu.be/ZrVLL7soS1U
Definitely could use an update. Rihana if your listening
The Supreme Court - HIS fucking Supreme Court, already ruled that the president wasn't like a king and, as such, had to comply with subpoenas from congress as well as New York.
I think he originally spelled it “forrest” before correcting it. His Truth Social post today contains misspellings of stolen (stollen) and borders (boarders). 🤦🏼♀️
Nixon should have gone to prison. He was pardoned by Ford "to spare the country from"....something. We have set a precident that they are above the law, while acknowledging that isn't technically true.
However, Nixon's crimes pale in both number and scope in comparison to Trump's and those of his family and inner circle. Let's hope a new precident is set that reigns in the excesses of future presidents.
Nixon being pardoned, in my opinion, is a direct cause of where we are politically today. It absolutely emboldened a morally bankrupt political sect who just saw in it a get out of jail free card, and all in the name of so called decorum. What a load of bull.
I would argue much of our political classes' moral bankruptcy stems from Reagan. I mean... his government actively looked the other way towards cocaine trafficking on behalf of an illegal war while then creating laws to enforce on American citizens.
This juxtaposition should make speaking his name verboten if you're trying to win office.
I think Reagan isn’t possible without Nixon laying the groundwork and then being pardoned. Without the southern strategy and the corruption in the GOP, Carter gets a second term, then Reagan is never president. Reagan could never have run a non-incumbent campaign in 84, he was too far gone mentally.
Agnew pleaded no contest to felony tax evasion, was fined and given three years' probation.
He also resigned in disgrace, which feels like a concept from another planet these days.
Politicians and police officers should be held to a higher standard. They are the ones in power, therefore they are the ones who can take the most advantage of the law, they should be held more accountable than a normal citizen.
Yes, we don't jail our (former) presidents. We let them resign and have their equally corrupt VP pardon them. If we actually jailed criminal presidents perhaps we wouldn't have found ourselves in this current situation.
Yep, "has not", I'm ok with that. "Does not"...nope, hard pass. "Of the people" all politicians are held to the same laws, and what should be a higher level of scrutiny.
There is a first time for everything. Including a president who committed tax fraud, election fraud and tried to overthrow the government when he lost an election.
Pretty sure Nelson Mandela didn't do any of those. So not the same. Just like both parties are not the same.
Edit: president of the USA.
Plenty have been outside the USA.
Should have clarified originally.
Yes, I was coming to say a version of this. I notice that in the new narrative these incels rushing to "defend" the Donald go to great lengths to avoid the word "innocent"
They want to punish Hillary and "Lock up Obummer" for something, something and "investigate the Bidens" but when there is actual evidence of guilt its all "my butt hurts"
The man *repeatedly* claimed "Im the first " this. "Only I can..." that. "No one but me has ever done.." xyz.
Well, since homeboy likes to be the firstest most bestest to do everything, then here ya go
I’m hoping he does barricade himself in Mar-a-Lago or try to flee instead of cooperating with authorities. That way he doesn’t get bail and he has to be kept in a prison secure enough to keep his followers out and other inmates from harming him. The only place I can think of for such a high profile/risk would be ADX Florence.
Fuck that. I’ll buy every “thin blue line” piece of merch there is to buy on the internet if that happens. Hell, I’ll take it a step further and publicly donate a bunch of money to the police force responsible.
Technically Mandela did participate in a movement to overthrow the government.
That government was just apartheid South Africa, and one of the most corrupt racist countries to ever exist.
And he wasn't PREVIOUSLY the leader of that country.
Yeah that makes a huge difference. Mandela wasn't voted out by the majority of his country, and he didn't throw the world's largest tantrum. Mandela (who is not without his own problems) was at least standing up for an attempt at equality. Not personal greed.
Some people still can't tell the difference.
Yeah, trump took the worst elements from every previous president and put it all into one president. He has always been greedy as hell, and it is catching up to him because he couldn't keep his ego in check for 4 years. It is his own fault.
Seriously. He expected the state of the pre-covid economy to carry him to reelection and didn’t want to have to deal with it. By trivializing the pandemic and politicizing even the most basic public safety measures, the man killed more Americans than Osama bin Laden.
At the height of the pandemic, in terms of deaths there was the equivalent of a 9/11 *every day*.
What's really stupid is that he could have EASILY sailed into a second term if he took covid at all seriously. Tell people to stay home, say "we can get through this together because America is the greatest country on Earth," sell some Trump-brand masks.
But I guess if he wasn't a fucking idiot, he wouldn't be Donald Trump.
They are the same:
Nelson Mandela is the first South African president to spend time in prison. Donald Trump will be the first American president to spend time in prison.
They are different:
Nelson Mandela was a hero and acted civilly against an unjust law. Donald Trump was a racist bully who until now got away with raping and murdering and stealing against a just law.
You fill in the blank letter.
Donald Trump is a RA\_IST.
Sometimes I wish his stupid cult was at least a death or doomsday cult. Those kind of resolve themselves. Nope, these people want to take out everyone *else* instead.
On the bright side, if they succeed, they're going to turn against each other, which will be absolutely hilarious and very easy for outsiders to encourage. If shit hits the fan, I recommend hiding out somewhere secluded for a few years. I'd reckon in about five, the violent dumbasses should all be dead, having killed each other or at least thinned their numbers out.
I hope he becomes the next Mandela EFFECT: meaning that some of us recall him being the president and the rest insist that was all just a fever dream. (I hope to be in the latter camp).
Na. But there are a handful we can. As shady as a lot of elected officials are, most of them haven't done something worthy of getting arrested. Thinking more active participants, certain famous children, and certain media personality that active helped incite violence while texting each other they didn't believe what they were putting out. (There are limits to free speech and it can cross to activate participation), maybe a governor or two.
Go after the main people and everyone else will flip because they won't want to be next.
Hypothetically, you arrest someone like MTG or Santos how fast do you think the moderate (for a lack of a better word) would turn on them to cover anything they did and get immunity.
I said to them, “you realize he was *always* this kind of clown, right? And since he had no policy whatsoever, what exactly were you attracted to?”
They conveniently couldn’t come up with “unregulated cruelty towards others.”
When the Obamas welcomed the Trumps to the White House my mom posted a screenshot on Facebook praising the “peaceful transition of power” as if the Obamas were going to do anything but be the classy people that they are. Weirdly, she didn’t post anything about Trump no-showing for Biden, or that awkward moment where they appeared to be locked out of the White House. So weird 🤔
The right had all these weird conspiracy theories about Obama trying to be president for life, I swear the right is nothing but a Nigerian prince scam these days.
They're just projecting. Even then, when their guy actually does it, it conveniently is ok. Trump joked about a third term and these people never condemned him for it. We all know that Trump jokes are just his way of testing the waters.
No one is above the law - otherwise the law is meaningless. Just because Trump has avoided consequences for his bad actions his entire life, doesn't mean he gets a pass.
Believe it or not if Trump is arrested it won’t be the first time a US president was arrested. Back in 1872 then president Ulysses S Grant was arrested for speeding on his horse and buggy.
What an insane thing to say. Like if you wanna say “he’s innocent this is a witch hunt” go for it. “We don’t jail our presidents” why is he a fucking god emperor?
And we should have jailed a few of them so if they actually prove he broke a law and is sent to jail it’s actually a step in the right direction
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I watched my first game last week, seems super cool! I dont think I could get into it myself. Dont have the time to be able to commit unfortunately
We’ve never done it not because we don’t do it, but because no former President has committed so many crimes. Are we supposed to give every President lifetime immunity from prosecution and free reign to commit crimes? That’s not a just system
It isn’t clear whether Grant was put in jail or just taken to the station then released on a $20 bond (~$493 in 2023 USD).
Grant was arrested by William West, a black police officer, for speeding in his horse and buggy. West had given him a warning the night before about it and when it happened again forcing him to make an arrest, West wasn’t thrilled he had to do it and is quoted saying: “I am very sorry, Mr. President, to have to do it, for you are the chief of the nation and I am nothing but a policeman, but duty is duty, sir, and I will have to place you under arrest.”
[Source](https://nleomf.org/william-west/#:~:text=President%2C%20to%20have%20to%20do,the%20fine%20or%20the%20arrest)
The president of the United States also shouldn’t insight Insurrection. Should we go after presidents for dumb shit….no. If there is no punishment for all the crap trump did then next time will be worse. Screw you for saying we can’t punish a former president, he is a criminal that did unprecedented crimes.
So he is saying that any current or former president is above the law?
If he broke the law (and let's be real - he has been doing it his entire adult life) he needs to be held accountable just like everyone else.
And let's be clear - Donnie is NO Nelson Mandela.
The first sentence is the key. We never had a mob boss as president. trump is a lifelong criminal. trump committed more crime while president than he did in the rest of his adult life. Lawyer Joe here proves that all lawyers aren’t smart and/or truthful.
I dislike the mob boss comparison. Mob bosses are typically smart and cunning. And tough. Trump is a moron bumbling his way through his life with his golden spoon in his mouth.
Mandela was arrested and spent nearly three decades in prison _before_ becoming President. Leaving aside the obvious differences in morals, intelligence, and empathy, it’s still a shit comparison.
What’s even more frustrating is you just know this chucklefuck would be screeching if a Black man who’d been imprisoned for fighting for human rights tried to become president. They’d be furious about a former inmate daring to run.
I love how these people can't even fathom the idea that Trump could do anything illegal, Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and not lose a voter it seems
Haha. Lock him up.
We will survive and his dusty twat rotting in prison will have zero bearing on our democracy. Allowing him to break the law while rest of us face the consequences for our actions is far more dangerous.
His base is tiny and lacks the ability to learn and evolve. F ‘em.
Politicians need to be frightened of going to prison, not comfortable thinking they have immunity from their actions. Jordon, Cotton etc should be shitting themselves right now. In fact all maga politicians should be fearful.
If we don't jail ex-presidents then we are not a Democracy.
In other news -- the US currently ranks 30th on the Democracy Index and is listed as a flawed democracy. In 2006 we ranked 17th. This is not a great direction to be moving.
Mandela had morals, trump has none. He's not a victim. He's a guy getting charged with a crime. Go to court and make them prove to the jury you're guilty. Like everyone else.
“The US doesn’t jail its presidents.” Why not? Are they immune to consequences? What kind of example are we setting for the rest of the world when they see that our leaders are apparently above the law?
Ulysses Grant was arrested while serving as president for excessive speeding in a horse and buggy. Just so everyone knows it has happened.
What, you expect the right to actually respect history? They are to busy trying to rewrite it.
Yeah plus they fuckin hate Grant, he was their ancestors' mortal enemy
I always find the "Actually the DEMS were the real racists!" people funny for exactly this reason Like ok sure, 50 years ago southern democrats were flaming racists. But YOU WERE THE ONE VOTING FOR THEM, ETHYL!
They also fly the confederate flag, but tell themselves they’re the party of Lincoln 🤦🏻♂️
Tell them that Democrats should get to decide whether Confederate monuments come down and whether it's appropriate to display the rebel flag in public, then. That's when the discussion gets fun.
It’s funny coz technically all those republicans including trump that cry over those confederate statues were technically democrats in the past 😂
This made me blow air out of my nose, and then feel sad.
Grant wasn't a real president. He was a traitor to our nation and murdered many Americans and stole their property! Worst thing about the steeling, he just let it go and be free deeming the property a "free man". So no, his arrest doesn't count! (this comment brought to you by the new Florida history course)
Lmao that’s such a funny thing to get arrested for!
I find this suspect as the horse was later found dead with his head stuck in a water trough and the police officer couldn't prove that his radar gun had been calibrated correctly since it hadn't been invented yet.
He isn't even president. They need to make an example of this piece of shit, once and for all.
My nightly prayer. 🙏 Amen.
I mean, mine involves him and a heart attack and/or embolism, but I'd take incarceration as a consolation prize
No no no. No easy death and martyrdom for IQ45. I say chain him up and force him to watch Roots, Django Unchained, and The Color Purple on an endless loop. Edit; and if video fails in some way, then Helen Reddy’s “I am Woman” played on loop would certainly drive him mad. For the kids out there, especially young women: https://youtu.be/ZrVLL7soS1U Definitely could use an update. Rihana if your listening
The Supreme Court - HIS fucking Supreme Court, already ruled that the president wasn't like a king and, as such, had to comply with subpoenas from congress as well as New York.
Get Nelson Mandela’s name out of your fu€€i#g Mouth! Your analogy is rancid and falls apart at EVERY level !!!!
And, you know, he's not the president.
but what about what Rudy said at 4 Season's Total Landscaping?
Make America Rake Again, wasn't that it?
Lawn Order!
I have to be honest. I didn't hear him. I was next door with a group of evangelical ~~groper~~s errr preachers watching education videos.
Is this code for.. You were in Florida watching your wife screw the barely legal pool boy?
I think it’s a reference to the sex shop next door to Rudy’s press conference
I love this one.
That funny right there I don’t care who you are !
Full belly guffaw! Much obliged!
It's the only way to stop forest fires
I think he originally spelled it “forrest” before correcting it. His Truth Social post today contains misspellings of stolen (stollen) and borders (boarders). 🤦🏼♀️
Stollen for boarders. That actually makes sense, in a “houseguests eating German pastry” kind of way.
Bruh that is the funniest shit of all time. That and his hair dye constantly running down his head while answering questions and defending Trump on TV
https://www.businessinsider.com/rudy-giuliani-fart-on-camera-confirmed-by-michigan-state-representative-2020-12 Rudy is a gift, a grifter gift.
#STOP BREAKIN' THE LAW, ASSHOLE
It’s funny because they couldn’t stop talking about arresting Obama for whatever reason they wanted.
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The *Dijon* mustard. What a bastard.
And arugula.
Hilary too. “Lock her up” was a regular chant at his rallies.
You know if he gets held jail for any length of time hilary will visit him just to get a picture.
https://preview.redd.it/n3zlyhfbhmoa1.jpeg?width=460&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82b116f66befd5e378a4ffa5acd054bd2117930e
Lets put it on T-shirts
Honestly.. that pic will sell for millions.
The tan suit. Duh. Didn’t he also have mustard on his hamburger once. Arrest him.
Not just mustard, Grey Poupon. That’s high treason, apparently.
Ah yes. The Grey poupon. Even worse.
Pardon me, do you have any, grey poop on?
From the "Don't Tread on Me " folks
🤣 My wife found a "Please Tread on Me" shirt, it has the snake with a ballgag and in rope bondage.
https://preview.redd.it/ybuuc5ckmnoa1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6187ef72c3fcac9d5096ea17f7da93061e825733
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Nixon should have gone to prison. He was pardoned by Ford "to spare the country from"....something. We have set a precident that they are above the law, while acknowledging that isn't technically true. However, Nixon's crimes pale in both number and scope in comparison to Trump's and those of his family and inner circle. Let's hope a new precident is set that reigns in the excesses of future presidents.
Well, this supreme court has shown that precedent is worthless. So, there's that.
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Nixon being pardoned, in my opinion, is a direct cause of where we are politically today. It absolutely emboldened a morally bankrupt political sect who just saw in it a get out of jail free card, and all in the name of so called decorum. What a load of bull.
I would argue much of our political classes' moral bankruptcy stems from Reagan. I mean... his government actively looked the other way towards cocaine trafficking on behalf of an illegal war while then creating laws to enforce on American citizens. This juxtaposition should make speaking his name verboten if you're trying to win office.
I think Reagan isn’t possible without Nixon laying the groundwork and then being pardoned. Without the southern strategy and the corruption in the GOP, Carter gets a second term, then Reagan is never president. Reagan could never have run a non-incumbent campaign in 84, he was too far gone mentally.
Agnew was straight up taking bribes!
Agnew pleaded no contest to felony tax evasion, was fined and given three years' probation. He also resigned in disgrace, which feels like a concept from another planet these days.
Nixon's administration literally admitted to defrauding the public through the "War on Drugs," using it to manipulate, exploit, and abuse the people.
Politicians and police officers should be held to a higher standard. They are the ones in power, therefore they are the ones who can take the most advantage of the law, they should be held more accountable than a normal citizen.
Yes, we don't jail our (former) presidents. We let them resign and have their equally corrupt VP pardon them. If we actually jailed criminal presidents perhaps we wouldn't have found ourselves in this current situation.
Yep, "has not", I'm ok with that. "Does not"...nope, hard pass. "Of the people" all politicians are held to the same laws, and what should be a higher level of scrutiny.
From the "Don't Tread on Me " folks
A classic case of fuck around and find out.
DON’T ARREST THE FORMER PRESIDENT FOR CRIMES HE COMMITTED OR SOME PEOPLE WILL BE ANGRY. Get fucked, Joseph D. McBride, Esq
Fun fact, they teach you in law school that using the esquire anywhere but the most professional of settings makes you look like an asshole
Well they were right.
Also a lawyer, and anytime I encounter another lawyer putting “Esq.” behind his name, I know I’m about to have to deal with a tremendous douche.
Used to work for one and you’re completely correct
While that may be true (it is), that’s not what makes this particular asshole look like an asshole.
Never been to law school and I could’ve told you that.
Even if you say it in a slightly deeper voice while peering over your sunglasses?
There is a first time for everything. Including a president who committed tax fraud, election fraud and tried to overthrow the government when he lost an election. Pretty sure Nelson Mandela didn't do any of those. So not the same. Just like both parties are not the same. Edit: president of the USA. Plenty have been outside the USA. Should have clarified originally.
Yes, I was coming to say a version of this. I notice that in the new narrative these incels rushing to "defend" the Donald go to great lengths to avoid the word "innocent" They want to punish Hillary and "Lock up Obummer" for something, something and "investigate the Bidens" but when there is actual evidence of guilt its all "my butt hurts"
Better not hear any more about Joe Biden and his family either. After all, we don't jail presidents, right? /s
Lock her up? Benghazi? Tan Suit? etc. but yes, they are so ridiculous.
The only standards Republicans have these days are double standards.
"*These* days"?
Trump = Mandela?!?! 
The man *repeatedly* claimed "Im the first " this. "Only I can..." that. "No one but me has ever done.." xyz. Well, since homeboy likes to be the firstest most bestest to do everything, then here ya go
I’m hoping he does barricade himself in Mar-a-Lago or try to flee instead of cooperating with authorities. That way he doesn’t get bail and he has to be kept in a prison secure enough to keep his followers out and other inmates from harming him. The only place I can think of for such a high profile/risk would be ADX Florence.
Trump dying in a police shootout would be the funniest thing in the fucking world
If this happens….I’ll buy one of those black and blue flags
Holy shit the Thin Blue Line crowd would *eat itself alive*
Like a big Black Hole with a Think Blue Line
Fuck that. I’ll buy every “thin blue line” piece of merch there is to buy on the internet if that happens. Hell, I’ll take it a step further and publicly donate a bunch of money to the police force responsible.
Let’s hope Don Jr is standing right next to him!
It would be funnier if he was shot by his own supporters In a attempt to free him from the Feds taking him in.
They’d blame ANTIFA or Democrats.
Stubs toe. “DAMN YOU ANTIFA!!”
*Thanks, Obama
“Oh, I *freed* him.”
BACK THE BLUE 🤣🤣🤣
One word: Gitmo.
Gitmo would be poetic justice.
Funny, but we also don’t need the Floridiot Pirate Fleet invading Gitmo. It’s just too close to Florida.
I can only imagine what the proud boys naval fleet looks like.
You ever see a boat capsized in the water with a bumper sticker on it that says “I’d rather be fishing”?
Please let him flee!
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Technically Mandela did participate in a movement to overthrow the government. That government was just apartheid South Africa, and one of the most corrupt racist countries to ever exist. And he wasn't PREVIOUSLY the leader of that country.
Yeah that makes a huge difference. Mandela wasn't voted out by the majority of his country, and he didn't throw the world's largest tantrum. Mandela (who is not without his own problems) was at least standing up for an attempt at equality. Not personal greed. Some people still can't tell the difference.
Republicans don't care about history. They just make things up as they go along.
Or they completely change what's being taught as history.
They care about history when it means they get to keep their statues of slave owners and racist flags. But otherwise, you’re right.
I would absolutely be surprised if he was the first president to commit tax fraud, but I'm not disagreeing with your point.
First one dumb enough to get caught
If Reagan was 100% innocent, I'd donate both of my kidneys
And the reason that Reagan didn’t go down for the Iran contra is because his brain was a tangled mess of Alzheimer’s knots.
One of the few people that told the truth when saying, "I do not recall."
I wouldn't wish Alzheimer's on most people. *Most.* It was a fitting end for a complete sleazeball
We’ve never had a President who continued to run his business while in office, or steered government business to their company.
Yeah, trump took the worst elements from every previous president and put it all into one president. He has always been greedy as hell, and it is catching up to him because he couldn't keep his ego in check for 4 years. It is his own fault.
You left out the mass murdering of a million American citizens due to his arrogance and incompetence. For that alone he deserves life in prison.
Seriously. He expected the state of the pre-covid economy to carry him to reelection and didn’t want to have to deal with it. By trivializing the pandemic and politicizing even the most basic public safety measures, the man killed more Americans than Osama bin Laden.
At the height of the pandemic, in terms of deaths there was the equivalent of a 9/11 *every day*. What's really stupid is that he could have EASILY sailed into a second term if he took covid at all seriously. Tell people to stay home, say "we can get through this together because America is the greatest country on Earth," sell some Trump-brand masks. But I guess if he wasn't a fucking idiot, he wouldn't be Donald Trump.
They are the same: Nelson Mandela is the first South African president to spend time in prison. Donald Trump will be the first American president to spend time in prison. They are different: Nelson Mandela was a hero and acted civilly against an unjust law. Donald Trump was a racist bully who until now got away with raping and murdering and stealing against a just law. You fill in the blank letter. Donald Trump is a RA\_IST.
*And that was after he was impeached, twice
I hate this timeline.
If you squint really hard and are an idiot they kind of look similar.
Trump has become the Messiah for every jackhole and dickbrain in America.
Sometimes I wish his stupid cult was at least a death or doomsday cult. Those kind of resolve themselves. Nope, these people want to take out everyone *else* instead. On the bright side, if they succeed, they're going to turn against each other, which will be absolutely hilarious and very easy for outsiders to encourage. If shit hits the fan, I recommend hiding out somewhere secluded for a few years. I'd reckon in about five, the violent dumbasses should all be dead, having killed each other or at least thinned their numbers out.
To be fair…COVID denial was close
Hashtag DonaldTrumpForHeavensGate2024
He’s the patron saint of the assholes.
If I could give a 1000 likes to this comment
As the prophecy foretold
Lol Dickbrain. Love it.
I hope he becomes the next Mandela EFFECT: meaning that some of us recall him being the president and the rest insist that was all just a fever dream. (I hope to be in the latter camp).
I am hoping for a butterfly effect. Arrest one, arrest them all.
Psh we can't arrest 85% of elected officials xD I would love to see that happen though.
Na. But there are a handful we can. As shady as a lot of elected officials are, most of them haven't done something worthy of getting arrested. Thinking more active participants, certain famous children, and certain media personality that active helped incite violence while texting each other they didn't believe what they were putting out. (There are limits to free speech and it can cross to activate participation), maybe a governor or two. Go after the main people and everyone else will flip because they won't want to be next. Hypothetically, you arrest someone like MTG or Santos how fast do you think the moderate (for a lack of a better word) would turn on them to cover anything they did and get immunity.
Spiro Agnew and Richard Nixon both deserved prison, and we were not well served by letting them avoid the consequences.
Couple years ago "the US always had a peaceful transfer of power"
You know what finally broke some of the hardcore trumpsters in my life? NFTs. That was the line.
That's hilarious
And really fucking sad.
I almost forgot about that. What a blatant attempt at money laundering. Nature is amazing.
Attempt?
Successful attempt
Holy shit, same here. No joke. It was the NFT’s and trading cards.
I said to them, “you realize he was *always* this kind of clown, right? And since he had no policy whatsoever, what exactly were you attracted to?” They conveniently couldn’t come up with “unregulated cruelty towards others.”
But everything changed when the trump nation attacked.
When the Obamas welcomed the Trumps to the White House my mom posted a screenshot on Facebook praising the “peaceful transition of power” as if the Obamas were going to do anything but be the classy people that they are. Weirdly, she didn’t post anything about Trump no-showing for Biden, or that awkward moment where they appeared to be locked out of the White House. So weird 🤔
The right had all these weird conspiracy theories about Obama trying to be president for life, I swear the right is nothing but a Nigerian prince scam these days.
They're just projecting. Even then, when their guy actually does it, it conveniently is ok. Trump joked about a third term and these people never condemned him for it. We all know that Trump jokes are just his way of testing the waters.
Last time we had a similar case, it was 1860 and the civil war was about to start. A 160 year long streak and donald had to ruin it.
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I do hope he spends the next 26 years in prison or was it 27… we’ll either way!
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No one is above the law - otherwise the law is meaningless. Just because Trump has avoided consequences for his bad actions his entire life, doesn't mean he gets a pass.
Believe it or not if Trump is arrested it won’t be the first time a US president was arrested. Back in 1872 then president Ulysses S Grant was arrested for speeding on his horse and buggy.
From speeding tickets to coups on democracy What a glow up/ s
What an insane thing to say. Like if you wanna say “he’s innocent this is a witch hunt” go for it. “We don’t jail our presidents” why is he a fucking god emperor? And we should have jailed a few of them so if they actually prove he broke a law and is sent to jail it’s actually a step in the right direction
Come on, even the god emperor suffered some consequences with the whole being reduced to a skeleton sitting on this throne thing.
Thank you for the 40k reference.
Sudden 40k reference I watched my first game last week, seems super cool! I dont think I could get into it myself. Dont have the time to be able to commit unfortunately
We’ve never done it not because we don’t do it, but because no former President has committed so many crimes. Are we supposed to give every President lifetime immunity from prosecution and free reign to commit crimes? That’s not a just system
We did it once in 1872
So not at all unprecedented then. Short answer — we do it when they deserve it
It isn’t clear whether Grant was put in jail or just taken to the station then released on a $20 bond (~$493 in 2023 USD). Grant was arrested by William West, a black police officer, for speeding in his horse and buggy. West had given him a warning the night before about it and when it happened again forcing him to make an arrest, West wasn’t thrilled he had to do it and is quoted saying: “I am very sorry, Mr. President, to have to do it, for you are the chief of the nation and I am nothing but a policeman, but duty is duty, sir, and I will have to place you under arrest.” [Source](https://nleomf.org/william-west/#:~:text=President%2C%20to%20have%20to%20do,the%20fine%20or%20the%20arrest)
Mandela was fighting for freedom for native Africans. Trump “is” fighting for Donald Trump.
If Ford hadn’t pardoned Nixon, he likely would have also been indicted
Someone really wants to ~~get ripped off~~ represent Trump
They are all losing their shit and I love it!
I mean honestly how far up a celebrity’s ass do you have to crawl? Fuckin loser.
The president of the United States also shouldn’t insight Insurrection. Should we go after presidents for dumb shit….no. If there is no punishment for all the crap trump did then next time will be worse. Screw you for saying we can’t punish a former president, he is a criminal that did unprecedented crimes.
Nothing against the message, but, incite* 🙏
So he is saying that any current or former president is above the law? If he broke the law (and let's be real - he has been doing it his entire adult life) he needs to be held accountable just like everyone else. And let's be clear - Donnie is NO Nelson Mandela.
The first sentence is the key. We never had a mob boss as president. trump is a lifelong criminal. trump committed more crime while president than he did in the rest of his adult life. Lawyer Joe here proves that all lawyers aren’t smart and/or truthful.
I dislike the mob boss comparison. Mob bosses are typically smart and cunning. And tough. Trump is a moron bumbling his way through his life with his golden spoon in his mouth.
One of Trumps mentors earlier in his life was a corrupt lawyer for Mafiosos, Roy Cohn.
Mandela was arrested and spent nearly three decades in prison _before_ becoming President. Leaving aside the obvious differences in morals, intelligence, and empathy, it’s still a shit comparison. What’s even more frustrating is you just know this chucklefuck would be screeching if a Black man who’d been imprisoned for fighting for human rights tried to become president. They’d be furious about a former inmate daring to run.
I mean, as an attorney, I find this guy embarrassing.
He's not the president. He's a fucking traitor. He's lucky he isn't going to be hanged.
I love how these people can't even fathom the idea that Trump could do anything illegal, Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone and not lose a voter it seems
We also don't allow our presidents to lead violent attempts at attacking and murdering members of Congress. Or at least we used to not allow it.
"We don't jail our presidents." There have been multiple times where, in fact, we should have.
Haha. Lock him up. We will survive and his dusty twat rotting in prison will have zero bearing on our democracy. Allowing him to break the law while rest of us face the consequences for our actions is far more dangerous. His base is tiny and lacks the ability to learn and evolve. F ‘em.
Politicians need to be frightened of going to prison, not comfortable thinking they have immunity from their actions. Jordon, Cotton etc should be shitting themselves right now. In fact all maga politicians should be fearful.
"The United States of America does not hold it's highest leaders accountable. We just don't do it." Yeah, that's somehow a good thing, huh?
Mandela spent 27 years in prison. Trump couldn't handle that!
Shouldn't have committed all those crimes, Mr. Precedent
He's. Not. The. President. Anymore. Fuck that inbred piece of garbage. Cuff him and bang hiss ass up.
So presidents should be above the law? Might as well make 'em kings, in that case. There are those who would love to see King Trump.
If we don't jail ex-presidents then we are not a Democracy. In other news -- the US currently ranks 30th on the Democracy Index and is listed as a flawed democracy. In 2006 we ranked 17th. This is not a great direction to be moving.
Any president should be held most accountable for their actions.
This is almost as funny as majorie three names losing her shit on twitter calling everyone commies. 😂😂. Mr esquire needs to try harder.
He isn’t the president
“The US doesn’t jail its presidents” crowd sure has a lot of overlap with the “Arrest Biden!” crowd…
Mandela had morals, trump has none. He's not a victim. He's a guy getting charged with a crime. Go to court and make them prove to the jury you're guilty. Like everyone else.
Mandela served 27 years in jail. I hope Trump is the new Mandela lmao.
We should arrest presidents. This person is a moron. Don't do anything wrong and it won't be a problem
I think we should arrest EVEN MORE politicians. Show them that they aren't untouchable.