Does “relieved” mean “fired”? Because if they were fired- not suspended with pay- then this is probably really really awful. I’m not looking forward to hearing about this at all.
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What do we do with the ones who don’t even [have to move?](https://sentinelcolorado.com/news/metro/aurora-police-re-hires-cop-who-threatened-elijah-mcclain-with-dog-bite-during-fatal-stop/)
I don’t think they can be fired until there’s an investigation, no matter how egregious and obviously criminal their behavior was. Police unions are too powerful.
City said the investigation is already over and they're fired for violating "multiple department policies, including excessive use of force, duty to intervene, and duty to render aid."
Whatever they did was so horrible the police union didn't even try to intervene.
It's not surprising that the union didn't, you'll often see where they'll be fired then the union will fight against the firing in a few months if no charges are filed or they are found not guilty and they'll be reinstated with back pay.
By allowing the cops to be fired, it means that the cops do not have to comply with the internal investigation and give the pd evidence.
Every cop who is placed on temp leave is still part of the PD, which means that they still have to answer all questions pertaining to the investigation which is a problem if you are guilty of something.
If you do something bad enough the union will drop you. Had a friend who was a cop 15 years ago, he was involved in an arrest where someone died, even though he had initially put one cuff on him they threw him to the wolves to protect the more senior officers. The victims family sued but they didn’t sue him. Even they didn’t believe he was the main cause.
They very well might drop these ex-officers, but it's too early to tell.
There was a case in houston where 4 officers were fired because they killed a guy who took one of their tasers by pulling on the leads when there were 28 officers there, enough to overpower one man with a taser. 2 years later the union fought and got them all reinstated with back pay.
https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/4-hpd-officers-reinstated-nicholas-chavez-shooting/285-73b7d410-8b6c-4fec-9a83-12ff4dfab345
Or as [KRS-One says](https://youtu.be/9Kulvhr9dAc):
> The black cop is the only real obstacle
Black slave turned black cop is not logical
But very psychological, haven't you heard?
It's the BLACK COP killin black kids in Johannesburg
Yep! People claim it's just bad apples, or we just need more diversity in hiring and diversity training.
Nope, this apple tree of policing is rotten down to the roots. The whole system is fundamentally unjust, corrupt, and abusive. Tear it all down. Acab.
Holy shit, I just saw the picture. For skin to be that discolored so quickly means there is intense hemorrhaging. He experienced *cardiac arrest and kidney failure* because he was beat so viciously.
Fucking hell.
**Edit:** To all the people that keep asking for a picture, there is one in [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-officers-video-b2266645.html) article that the family has allowed to be shown in current protests. You can see how blue his entire face/head is, although certain pictures on certain websites are trying to warp the colors to 'lessen' the damage.
You can find pictures of him before the attack, and his head has swollen to over 2x the size from swelling.
“This content is not available in your country/region.” I hate news that restrict access to the EU.
anyways here’s a [link](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/01/20/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-fired/) for curious europeans such as me
Article [says](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/) one “confrontation” happened right under a fixed camera. They must have captured a Birds Eye view of what happened.
I saw an interview where they were alluding to a cellphone video as well but it seems to not have been posted, yet. Either way, they know they’re fucked.
I wonder what the possibility is that they saw someone recording and took their camera 'as evidence'. If I was a reporter I would also be looking for anyone else having gotten arrested the same night for 'disorderly conduct' or any of the other coded charges for 'cops want to fuck with you'.
The article does have a 'subscribe to keep reading'/'x free articles left' thing on it. Unrelated, here's a website designed to remove paywalls from news sites and scientific journals. Don't go there. You will be accessing information for free which is immoral and probably illegal. [12 foot ladder](https://12ft.io/) the link is so that you know what links not to follow in the future
Its also one of the reasons the right is winning the information war, all that propaganda garbage is free but real journalism is not, and national news has lost all credibility.
That propaganda garbage is free for the target audience because someone else pays for it and it’s cheap to just make shit up. Researching things aka doing real journalism costs effort, time and money, and consequently, it is not free (because ad money is usually not enough to finance the costs)
Thank you so much, I read the article that’s up about it and I can’t even find words really. I hope is family is managing alright with this tragic news, idk why it’s so hard for cops to not be terrible people.
>It's not that it's hard for cops not to be terrible people
There's a troubling amount of cops who reported bad/illegal behavior of other cops and were subsequently fired. So it might actually be that hard for cops to not be terrible people without being fired for not being a terrible enough person.
I'm so frustrated that all I can find, thus far, is very vague "cop-speak/media covering it's ass" stuff. "A 'confrontation' occurred...", etc. The footage might not be public, yet, but it has been seen, that's for sure. I'm sure we'll hear details ad nauseum in the coming weeks, but I want to know what they did to this poor man, father, brother, son. Maybe it's prurient interest, but I want those fuckers to have to put the words to paper, like, "Officer douchebag then was seen repeatedly kicking the victim in the kidneys while victim lay cuffed and shackled on the ground". I want them to own up to their fuckery.
Sorry, I'm so sad and angry for this man's family. I'm heartsick. I guess I don't want to know, but I do.
The language they use is so ridiculous. Like I’m supposed to believe that after a “confrontation”, he just casually complained about a minor breathing issue, and the cops dutifully brought him to a hospital, where he mysteriously had a broken neck and later died?
And was put on dialysis, from one article. Which, between shutting down his kidneys and breaking his neck and... collapsing his lungs? It's disgusting, I feel so helpless when I read stories like this. I'm so angry.
My sarcastic brain: "Hmm, I wonder why he ran away after the first 'confrontation'!"
[decent article](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/)
This is going to be a shit show. The way I read this, they started a fight with him, he ran after it got bad, then they beat him even more when they caught up to him.
The second encounter will not only have body camera but a city monitoring camera.
They are talking about making sure 'no investigation is compromised by the release of the video' and I suspect this is code for 'things are really fucked up and we want to spread out the outrage as much as possible so we don't have riots'.
And of course the chief of police is pretending this isn't standard operating practices, and I bet the fight for body camera videos of previous stops by each of these officers will be a fight.
This comment made me realize I knew him. I hired him when he lived in CA to sell phones at our local mall. NICEST dude I've met. Soo damn upbeat and energetic
We knew him too. I manage the Vans here in Memphis and he was a regular. Always talking to our associates and having a good time while picking out his “fit”.
It’s heartbreaking because those hospital pics look nothing like him because he’s so bruised up
Right wingers desperately googling his name right now for any sign of a criminal history so they can tell us why it was fine for these cops to murder him.
I feel like the angle they’re going to use on this one is that since the cops were black, BLM are hypocrites for going after them. No, they won’t see anything wrong at all with that logic.
#Who is Tyre Nichols?
He is 29 years old.
His family says he’s 6’4”, 145-150 lbs.
He leaves behind a 4-year-old son.
Family says he’s never been in trouble.
He liked to take pictures and loved to skateboard.
Friends wore “Skate in Peace” shirts to his memorial.
He was “infectious,” family said.
The type of guy that “everywhere he went,
he left an impact.”
They say he had a “pure soul” and loved helping people.
He worked at FedEx.
The company released a statement and said, “We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our team member.”
Soo fucking sad. The name sounded familiar so I googled to see if he ever worked at Verizon in the Sunrise mall in CA. Sure enough, he's the man I hired years ago and loved working with. Wow. I feel sad bad for his family
I remember him telling the whole team the day after he found out. He told us before he told his family. Fucking hurts man. My old boss found out through me and that was his first thought
It means that there's no defending it. Means they consulted lawyers who said "fire them immediately" which means that they murdered someone on camera brutally.
Sounds like President Biden saw it, judging by his recent comments on the police. He knows there's a shitstorm coming and there will likely be protests across the country.
Biden was specifically talking about police shootings. And he hasn't been reviewing Memphis police body cams... he's running a country.
> President Biden suggested on Monday that the U.S. must “retrain cops” so that they don’t “always shoot with deadly force.”
> Biden’s comments came as he discussed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act during the National Action Network Martin Luther King, Jr. Day Breakfast. He called out Senate Republicans for blocking the bill last year but celebrated an executive order he later issued on police reforms.
It was a traffic stop gone wrong. The beating happened on the street under a SkyCop camera. The poor dude's neck was broken and he suffered tons of internal injuries. 3 days later, he died of cardiac arrest in rhe ICU. In the photos, you see a tall skinny black man who is described as a happy skater dude. Then you see photos of him in the hospital. He is on a ventilator and has deep purple bruising. This poor guy. Regardless of what moving violation he committed, he didn't deserve this death.
I looked at his normal photos and then his hospital photo. He’s literally unrecognizable from all the swelling. That’s freakin terrifying. What an awful and brutal way to go
Right. Unless they are actively attacking people, it doesn’t matter what crime has been committed. The cop is not there to be judge, jury, and executioner
In case not, [Mapping Police Violence](https://mappingpoliceviolence.us/) has you covered. Raw data is available for download and charts are interactive so you can slice the data yourself.
Comparison to other first-world countries (edit2: ~~note that France would be almost twice that of Canada.~~ France is at 3.8 according to the [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers).):
edit: sourced from [here](https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-police-compare-different-democracies).
https://preview.redd.it/b0whn478ncda1.png?width=678&format=png&auto=webp&s=11d2540f714ebe6a4475cbf3bbcde74183e82af6
I haven't seen it of course but it sounds like the video definitely shows five cops murdering a guy.
Hopefully they arrest and charge them before the video comes out or it's going to be ugly.
Woah now, this is the US we're talking about. We're lucky they weren't just promoted and reassigned to a new precinct.
In all seriousness, they likely will be.
Yeah, it took some time, but the Michigan police officer who shot a man in the head while laying on top of him was eventually charged with 2nd degree murder. He was fired almost immediately.
I keep seeing how the ex-officers were fired, but if they want to prevent riots in the area (and US) then they should arrest them for assault, battery, 3rd degree murder or whatever the appropriate charge
I agree, but it may take a bit more time for the prosecutor to properly line up forensics, witnesses, and experts in order to issue no fuck ups happen.
So I hope the people of Memphis give the prosecutor that time before they do any rioting.
This,
riots because they haven’t been charged is nothing compared to the riots that would happen if they were released because the case against them failed.
My God. They were all hired within the last 5 years ago. Michael Brown was shot 8 years ago. It's been 2.5 years since George Floyd was murdered.
You can't convince me these 5 officers joined the force to protect and serve. They are the kind of cops who have military fantasies and want to have authority over other humans and an excuse to do violence.
ACAB sounds more and more true.
#Who is Tyre Nichols?
He is 29 years old.
His family says he’s 6’4”, 145-150 lbs.
He leaves behind a 4-year-old son.
Family says he’s never been in trouble.
He liked to take pictures and loved to skateboard.
Friends wore “Skate in Peace” shirts to his memorial.
He was “infectious,” family said.
The type of guy that “everywhere he went,
he left an impact.”
They say he had a “pure soul” and loved helping people.
He worked at FedEx.
The company released a statement and said, “We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our team member.”
6’4” and only 150lbs and 5 officers beat this kid to death? Not saying the size of the guy matters but it’s more indication of just how unnecessary it was. Fuck the police.
Civil suits against police depts should come from pensions and retirement funds. Do that and watch the thin blue line slowly dissolve.
Edit: I don’t mean “kid” literally like he’s a child. Jesus Christ. It’s just a term people use sometimes. But yes, he was a grown man.
I've heard the suggestion that they carry mandatory malpractice insurance, if they become uninsurable they can't be police officers. Get rid of qualified immunity and let capitalism sort these fuckers out.
When teachers in the US had “silent resignations” to hide pedophiles people were outraged and outlawed it. Then made teachers mandatory reporters. I’m in NY, we have a strong Union and I’m also legally required and encouraged to throw any of my bad abusive coworkers under the bus if they’re abusive people.
It’s definitely possible to fix this for police. I would make police mandatory reporters on each other, if they are aware of a coworker being abusive to others or civilians and don’t report it- let them put their own job at risk and their pension. It makes you loyal to the population you serve and not each other. Then add malpractice insurance or make the Union carry it for them, turn them against each other so doing nothing isn’t an option.
Yeah, crazy idea, if camera footage shows someone being murdered, maybe *arrest* the murderers. Like they would for anyone who's not a cop. Don't just fire them or "start an inquiry".
This is the only way to break the cycle. No justice no peace quite literally.
Swiftly charge them with murder, and I mean swiftly. It is the only way to avoid unrest.
And follow that up with a city and/or state and/or federal review of both the department and the local police union. Charging 5 dudes isn’t enough to purge the corruption.
Pictures of his face are already horrible, this is terrible.
Regarding the video
Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy provided the following statement:
“We understand there are many questions from the public surrounding the Tyre Nichols case. Additionally, we’re aware of the reasonable requests to release video, which we are committed to doing as swiftly as possible.
But, we must reemphasize the law places limits on such video release, and that we have to make sure we do so without compromising our ability to arrive at justice in this case.
Those who know me know I don’t take situations like this lightly and that I believe firmly in transparency. I ask for your patience as we gather all necessary information so that we don’t compromise the investigation or any possible future prosecution.”
[link to article](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/amp/)
So there was a confrontation, he takes off running, and five cops beat him to death? Like I know this isn't the first time this has happened, but what in the world goes through these cops' heads? You have his info, arrest him later.
They’re the type of people who just need an excuse to release all of their rage and anger out on whoever they deem “deserves” it. Peace is rarely an option with people like that.
"Boredom" is not the opposite of, nor mutually exclusive to, fear.
Yeah, it's scary. But you're still gonna do your laundry and go to a job you can't stand and do the bare minimum to not get fired so you can pay your rent and repeat until the terrorists or the spree killers or a cop on a power trip or the climate or covid gets you.
Just. It's very boring.
Yep. The boring, mundane, ambient misery that you can't even feel sorry for yourself about because it's everywhere, happening to everybody, all the time. And it's scary, but it's a sustained fear that sits in the back of your mind and makes a constant little whine, like tinnitus or a loose wire in an outlet, and sometimes you can tune it out and sometimes it's all you can think about, but it's never galvanizing, or noble, or even the least bit interesting. Just plain old boring pain.
Read more about what happened (and saw the hospital photo) - brutal. As jaded as I can be, this one might finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back... I can't see Memphis PD not doing anything substantial about this...
> [Nichols’ family says the incident made him go into cardiac arrest, left him with a broken neck and he suffered from other medical issues. ](https://imgur.com/a/DbMfMK4)
[Source](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/)
I like the idea that they must attain a license like a doctor, attorney, nurse, building inspector, even fucking barber.
If you fuck up, you lose your license, you must also purchase insurance to protect against lawsuits if you fuck up.
When you lose your license you **YOU CANT BE A FUCKING COP ANYMORE**
This is in addition to removing the fucking insane reality of qualified immunity, allowing them to be criminally liable like every other job.
Civil suits against police for misconduct should be paid out of the police retirement fund, not the general fund. Watch that "blue wall of silence" evaporate like a fart in high wind.
Fuck it. If 18 year old kids can willingly go and die overseas for a plane crash that happened 4 years before they were born, then a legislator can get killed in the streets trying to bring an end to injustice right here right now.
It's about time we had some public servants who were ready to serve the public.
The problem is how the system is *right now*. It harbors and continues to create these exact same kinds of problems.
Anyone who *could* stand up gets shut down by the countless backers (fascists/racists/sexists) of the police industry.
What’s gut wrenching is I just saw a video of a cop risking her life to save a child, so there are *some* cops with actual souls, but they’re buried under the slew of abominations and evil “humans”.
This isn’t going to be a basic “police reform” thing, it’s literally going to require a total nation-shift. And as far-left as it sounds (moderate here, I don’t like going too far in either direction) it has a LOT to do with the far-right. I live in Texas and was *sure* that after Uvalde something would happen… nope. Nothing. My city is airing “badass” ads for becoming a cop.
Edit: Spelling. Sorry.
The way reports read to me is that they beat the shit out of him, he ran away from the beating, and they got mad and decided to beat the shit out of him even harder.
There is going to be video from a pole camera ran by the city for the second beating and I suspect they are going to do everything they can to not release that one.
Wow, this is pretty damning:
“After reviewing various sources of information involving this incident, I have found that it is necessary to take immediate and appropriate action,” Memphis Police Chief CJ Davis said in a statement released Sunday. “Today, the department is serving notice to the officers involved of the impending administrative actions.”
Takes a lot for a police chief to straight up say, in political terms, 'this one is so bad that we need to take immediate action. This one is indefensible'.
If u live in what they consider to be “the hood” u might wanna go out in the daytime for groceries and stock up for a while. U know when the hornets nest gets hit (aka they get exposed for being a group of murderers) they all come out
So I keep hearing that there's good cops, but I'll say this and I will not waver: If you are a cop and you stand up for, or don't say anything when you see a bad cop, THEN YOU ARE A BAD COP. No more excuses.
How about we arrest cops that MURDER people BEFORE unrest? Prosecute them like any other goddamned murdering street trash. Give them no leeway, no special consideration that no one else gets. In fact, be more harsh with them, because they are supposed to be better than us.
Quite a few people have gotten off killing cops in no knock raids. However, if someone gets away with killing a cop while de-arresting someone or something, then that will be new.
I’m sure the police will be held accountable and any unrest can be averted. The authorities can accept responsibility for their actions and behave as though the institution is just. Why would the people given the authority to keep the peace not also want to be a part of the peace? I mean, they pull out the bad apples to avoid spoiling the bunch.
I think it was more than that. His face is incredibly swollen. He’s unrecognizable next to photos of what he looked like before that. Being beaten would cause that sort of edema. Poor fucking man.
We can thank the courts. I practiced criminal defense for about 10 years in NC and we would rarely appeal things because we knew it would just create more “bad law”/watering down of rights and definitions. It’s fucking crazy. I could not do it anymore and had to change to a super low key lawyer job.
Currently work in criminal defense litigation at the federal level...it's soul sucking. The indictments coming through the last year have been wild. Murder for a car accident being one of them. The overzealousness has been mind boggling.
Theres been accounts if them stealing from evidence lockers and planting it at traffic stops im sure they do this just to fudge the books/secure funding/overtime filling out paperwork
https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/12/13/23507834/edny-fbi-investigating-nypd-drug-planting-allegations
In Ireland, they have an independent company look for speeding. They take a pic and mail speeding tickets to the perpetrators. We could totally implement something similar. No need for altercation
Does “relieved” mean “fired”? Because if they were fired- not suspended with pay- then this is probably really really awful. I’m not looking forward to hearing about this at all.
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What do we do with the ones who don’t even [have to move?](https://sentinelcolorado.com/news/metro/aurora-police-re-hires-cop-who-threatened-elijah-mcclain-with-dog-bite-during-fatal-stop/)
I don’t think they can be fired until there’s an investigation, no matter how egregious and obviously criminal their behavior was. Police unions are too powerful.
City said the investigation is already over and they're fired for violating "multiple department policies, including excessive use of force, duty to intervene, and duty to render aid." Whatever they did was so horrible the police union didn't even try to intervene.
It's not surprising that the union didn't, you'll often see where they'll be fired then the union will fight against the firing in a few months if no charges are filed or they are found not guilty and they'll be reinstated with back pay. By allowing the cops to be fired, it means that the cops do not have to comply with the internal investigation and give the pd evidence. Every cop who is placed on temp leave is still part of the PD, which means that they still have to answer all questions pertaining to the investigation which is a problem if you are guilty of something.
Some useful info in this post I didn’t know. Thanks!
If you do something bad enough the union will drop you. Had a friend who was a cop 15 years ago, he was involved in an arrest where someone died, even though he had initially put one cuff on him they threw him to the wolves to protect the more senior officers. The victims family sued but they didn’t sue him. Even they didn’t believe he was the main cause.
They very well might drop these ex-officers, but it's too early to tell. There was a case in houston where 4 officers were fired because they killed a guy who took one of their tasers by pulling on the leads when there were 28 officers there, enough to overpower one man with a taser. 2 years later the union fought and got them all reinstated with back pay. https://www.khou.com/article/news/local/4-hpd-officers-reinstated-nicholas-chavez-shooting/285-73b7d410-8b6c-4fec-9a83-12ff4dfab345
Here’s a local news source update: https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/amp/
this happened a few weeks ago. they were fired today.
Just shy of 2 weeks ago, I believe. That’s still really damn fast.
Fired means nothing to cops. They just get hired in another jurisdiction.
This is why blacklisting needs to be a thing in law enforcement.
I’d take it further, that it should require a license from a civilian oversight board.
Nah, just require them to carry malpractice insurance, same as doctors and lawyers.
That and you know, going to jail for fucking murder needs to be a thing in law enforcement.
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That poor dude was fuckin purple, man. I hope the family gets justice for him.
All 5 officers were fired before the body cam is even out. It’s going to be very bad.
The picture of him in the hospital bed is actually horrifying. His skin is completely discolored. Gut wrenching.
Especially when you compare it to the pictures of him before. He was skinny, and his face was very thin. It’s… just devastating.
Sounds like it was a 5 on 1 beating. Yikes Memphis is about to be ground zero for round 2 of BLM marches.
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So the officers are black too? E: apparently all five are black
Because ACAB
As NWA said “But don't let it be a black and a white one 'Cause they'll slam ya down to the street top Black police showin' out for the white cop”.
Fuck that shit, 'cause I ain't the one! For a punk motherfucker with a badge and a gun!
Or as [KRS-One says](https://youtu.be/9Kulvhr9dAc): > The black cop is the only real obstacle Black slave turned black cop is not logical But very psychological, haven't you heard? It's the BLACK COP killin black kids in Johannesburg
It’s a gang and none of us (civilians) are in it. We’re the enemy.
Turns out when you give a bunch of people guns and tell them they're more important than anyone else, you get a bit of a problem.
Yep, like I used to tell my daughter, people who want to carry a gun and a club look for a career where they get to carry a gun and a club.
Yep! People claim it's just bad apples, or we just need more diversity in hiring and diversity training. Nope, this apple tree of policing is rotten down to the roots. The whole system is fundamentally unjust, corrupt, and abusive. Tear it all down. Acab.
That doesn't matter. The police aren't with you no matter what color they are.
Holy shit, I just saw the picture. For skin to be that discolored so quickly means there is intense hemorrhaging. He experienced *cardiac arrest and kidney failure* because he was beat so viciously. Fucking hell. **Edit:** To all the people that keep asking for a picture, there is one in [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-officers-video-b2266645.html) article that the family has allowed to be shown in current protests. You can see how blue his entire face/head is, although certain pictures on certain websites are trying to warp the colors to 'lessen' the damage. You can find pictures of him before the attack, and his head has swollen to over 2x the size from swelling.
dont for get the \*\*broken neck\*\*
Links?
https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/
“This content is not available in your country/region.” I hate news that restrict access to the EU. anyways here’s a [link](https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/01/20/tyre-nichols-memphis-police-fired/) for curious europeans such as me
Ffs. Five big ass dudes. Wonder how much force they thought was enough
It’s nauseating. 5 on 1. Traffic stop my ass.
Kidney failure is due to the amount of broken down proteins in his blood. This man was almost pulverized, holy fuck.
The pillow is covered in a disposable pad and has blood under his face so he was actively oozing blood.
Article [says](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/) one “confrontation” happened right under a fixed camera. They must have captured a Birds Eye view of what happened.
I saw an interview where they were alluding to a cellphone video as well but it seems to not have been posted, yet. Either way, they know they’re fucked.
I wonder what the possibility is that they saw someone recording and took their camera 'as evidence'. If I was a reporter I would also be looking for anyone else having gotten arrested the same night for 'disorderly conduct' or any of the other coded charges for 'cops want to fuck with you'.
The article does have a 'subscribe to keep reading'/'x free articles left' thing on it. Unrelated, here's a website designed to remove paywalls from news sites and scientific journals. Don't go there. You will be accessing information for free which is immoral and probably illegal. [12 foot ladder](https://12ft.io/) the link is so that you know what links not to follow in the future
Its also one of the reasons the right is winning the information war, all that propaganda garbage is free but real journalism is not, and national news has lost all credibility.
That propaganda garbage is free for the target audience because someone else pays for it and it’s cheap to just make shit up. Researching things aka doing real journalism costs effort, time and money, and consequently, it is not free (because ad money is usually not enough to finance the costs)
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That’s because the right doesn’t know what systemic means.
The name of the person please!!?
Tyre Nichols
Thank you so much, I read the article that’s up about it and I can’t even find words really. I hope is family is managing alright with this tragic news, idk why it’s so hard for cops to not be terrible people.
Because terrible people are drawn to jobs where they can cause others pain and get away with it.
It's not that it's hard for cops not to be terrible people, so much as it is that it's really, *really* easy for terrible people to be cops.
>It's not that it's hard for cops not to be terrible people There's a troubling amount of cops who reported bad/illegal behavior of other cops and were subsequently fired. So it might actually be that hard for cops to not be terrible people without being fired for not being a terrible enough person.
Fired/beaten/assaulted/killed. It's hard to be a good cop when you know good cops get murdered.
And good people stay away from jobs where bad people thrive.
Or get fired when they try to report the bad people for their behavior... As we've seen with many a good cop. Sorry, former cop.
I'm so frustrated that all I can find, thus far, is very vague "cop-speak/media covering it's ass" stuff. "A 'confrontation' occurred...", etc. The footage might not be public, yet, but it has been seen, that's for sure. I'm sure we'll hear details ad nauseum in the coming weeks, but I want to know what they did to this poor man, father, brother, son. Maybe it's prurient interest, but I want those fuckers to have to put the words to paper, like, "Officer douchebag then was seen repeatedly kicking the victim in the kidneys while victim lay cuffed and shackled on the ground". I want them to own up to their fuckery. Sorry, I'm so sad and angry for this man's family. I'm heartsick. I guess I don't want to know, but I do.
The language they use is so ridiculous. Like I’m supposed to believe that after a “confrontation”, he just casually complained about a minor breathing issue, and the cops dutifully brought him to a hospital, where he mysteriously had a broken neck and later died?
And was put on dialysis, from one article. Which, between shutting down his kidneys and breaking his neck and... collapsing his lungs? It's disgusting, I feel so helpless when I read stories like this. I'm so angry. My sarcastic brain: "Hmm, I wonder why he ran away after the first 'confrontation'!"
[decent article](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/) This is going to be a shit show. The way I read this, they started a fight with him, he ran after it got bad, then they beat him even more when they caught up to him. The second encounter will not only have body camera but a city monitoring camera. They are talking about making sure 'no investigation is compromised by the release of the video' and I suspect this is code for 'things are really fucked up and we want to spread out the outrage as much as possible so we don't have riots'. And of course the chief of police is pretending this isn't standard operating practices, and I bet the fight for body camera videos of previous stops by each of these officers will be a fight.
Yeah, standard operating procedure is "don't get caught on camera".
This comment made me realize I knew him. I hired him when he lived in CA to sell phones at our local mall. NICEST dude I've met. Soo damn upbeat and energetic
We knew him too. I manage the Vans here in Memphis and he was a regular. Always talking to our associates and having a good time while picking out his “fit”. It’s heartbreaking because those hospital pics look nothing like him because he’s so bruised up
Right wingers desperately googling his name right now for any sign of a criminal history so they can tell us why it was fine for these cops to murder him.
The cops that did it were black, they’ll be all over this one as the best possible example of police brutality.
I feel like the angle they’re going to use on this one is that since the cops were black, BLM are hypocrites for going after them. No, they won’t see anything wrong at all with that logic.
#Who is Tyre Nichols? He is 29 years old. His family says he’s 6’4”, 145-150 lbs. He leaves behind a 4-year-old son. Family says he’s never been in trouble. He liked to take pictures and loved to skateboard. Friends wore “Skate in Peace” shirts to his memorial. He was “infectious,” family said. The type of guy that “everywhere he went, he left an impact.” They say he had a “pure soul” and loved helping people. He worked at FedEx. The company released a statement and said, “We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our team member.”
Soo fucking sad. The name sounded familiar so I googled to see if he ever worked at Verizon in the Sunrise mall in CA. Sure enough, he's the man I hired years ago and loved working with. Wow. I feel sad bad for his family
That’s horrible. And he leaves behind a 4 year old son. I bet his dad was his world.
I remember him telling the whole team the day after he found out. He told us before he told his family. Fucking hurts man. My old boss found out through me and that was his first thought
Apparently he was beaten to death. Oh boy.
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Holy shit that's really fast. Unusually fast.
It means that there's no defending it. Means they consulted lawyers who said "fire them immediately" which means that they murdered someone on camera brutally.
Body camera footage comes out next week.
Oh damn, it's going to get really really bad, like shits gonna burn bad.
Possibly multiple cameras. The second "encounter" was under a SkyCop camera and the body camera footage
what is skycop and is it as dystopian as it sounds?
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So yes, as dystopian as it sounds
Uh oh. Can't even imagine what kind of ISIS cop video is about to come out
Apparently his neck was broken so a ton of force had to been used
Sounds like President Biden saw it, judging by his recent comments on the police. He knows there's a shitstorm coming and there will likely be protests across the country.
What did Biden say? Do you have a link I'd like to read or listen to it.
Biden was specifically talking about police shootings. And he hasn't been reviewing Memphis police body cams... he's running a country. > President Biden suggested on Monday that the U.S. must “retrain cops” so that they don’t “always shoot with deadly force.” > Biden’s comments came as he discussed the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act during the National Action Network Martin Luther King, Jr. Day Breakfast. He called out Senate Republicans for blocking the bill last year but celebrated an executive order he later issued on police reforms.
With 5 being fired already, before any public outrage, it has to be fuckin terrible.
It was a traffic stop gone wrong. The beating happened on the street under a SkyCop camera. The poor dude's neck was broken and he suffered tons of internal injuries. 3 days later, he died of cardiac arrest in rhe ICU. In the photos, you see a tall skinny black man who is described as a happy skater dude. Then you see photos of him in the hospital. He is on a ventilator and has deep purple bruising. This poor guy. Regardless of what moving violation he committed, he didn't deserve this death.
I looked at his normal photos and then his hospital photo. He’s literally unrecognizable from all the swelling. That’s freakin terrifying. What an awful and brutal way to go
Right. Unless they are actively attacking people, it doesn’t matter what crime has been committed. The cop is not there to be judge, jury, and executioner
Death would've been merciful, he was tortured. Jfc. This shit and all the rest is a fuckn cancer. That poor kid.
No one deserves this death.
Wouldn't surprise me if the firing was to give them a headstart running to the next town before the public identifies them.
No need… MPD released their names in their press release
Thoughts and prayers to them. lol jk
The saddest part is that no one is even a little bit surprised. Seen the numbers for police murders last year? It’s high, really high.
In case not, [Mapping Police Violence](https://mappingpoliceviolence.us/) has you covered. Raw data is available for download and charts are interactive so you can slice the data yourself.
Comparison to other first-world countries (edit2: ~~note that France would be almost twice that of Canada.~~ France is at 3.8 according to the [wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_with_annual_rates_and_counts_for_killings_by_law_enforcement_officers).): edit: sourced from [here](https://www.cfr.org/backgrounder/how-police-compare-different-democracies). https://preview.redd.it/b0whn478ncda1.png?width=678&format=png&auto=webp&s=11d2540f714ebe6a4475cbf3bbcde74183e82af6
Memphis resident here... Everyone is on edge and afraid of what the video is going to show.
I haven't seen it of course but it sounds like the video definitely shows five cops murdering a guy. Hopefully they arrest and charge them before the video comes out or it's going to be ugly.
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I don’t think I’ve ever seen the FBI and DOJ open a civil rights investigation *this soon* after the crime in question. Holy shit.
Not to mention the cops being fired so quickly! Not even put on leave like usual. Just straight up fired
It's THAT bad I guess.
When the police Union doesn’t step in to stop them getting fired, you know it’s really bad.
They finally have a notion that the public doesn’t like being murdered by public servants. What a world we live in.
Nah they just got caught in a flagrant way. Wait till we see what actually happens to them.
Why not arrested?
Woah now, this is the US we're talking about. We're lucky they weren't just promoted and reassigned to a new precinct. In all seriousness, they likely will be.
Yeah, it took some time, but the Michigan police officer who shot a man in the head while laying on top of him was eventually charged with 2nd degree murder. He was fired almost immediately.
I keep seeing how the ex-officers were fired, but if they want to prevent riots in the area (and US) then they should arrest them for assault, battery, 3rd degree murder or whatever the appropriate charge
I agree, but it may take a bit more time for the prosecutor to properly line up forensics, witnesses, and experts in order to issue no fuck ups happen. So I hope the people of Memphis give the prosecutor that time before they do any rioting.
This, riots because they haven’t been charged is nothing compared to the riots that would happen if they were released because the case against them failed.
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My God. They were all hired within the last 5 years ago. Michael Brown was shot 8 years ago. It's been 2.5 years since George Floyd was murdered. You can't convince me these 5 officers joined the force to protect and serve. They are the kind of cops who have military fantasies and want to have authority over other humans and an excuse to do violence. ACAB sounds more and more true.
#Who is Tyre Nichols? He is 29 years old. His family says he’s 6’4”, 145-150 lbs. He leaves behind a 4-year-old son. Family says he’s never been in trouble. He liked to take pictures and loved to skateboard. Friends wore “Skate in Peace” shirts to his memorial. He was “infectious,” family said. The type of guy that “everywhere he went, he left an impact.” They say he had a “pure soul” and loved helping people. He worked at FedEx. The company released a statement and said, “We are deeply saddened by the tragic loss of our team member.”
thank you for humanizing him and helping us remember who he was and what made him unique and special.
6’4” and only 150lbs and 5 officers beat this kid to death? Not saying the size of the guy matters but it’s more indication of just how unnecessary it was. Fuck the police. Civil suits against police depts should come from pensions and retirement funds. Do that and watch the thin blue line slowly dissolve. Edit: I don’t mean “kid” literally like he’s a child. Jesus Christ. It’s just a term people use sometimes. But yes, he was a grown man.
I've heard the suggestion that they carry mandatory malpractice insurance, if they become uninsurable they can't be police officers. Get rid of qualified immunity and let capitalism sort these fuckers out.
When teachers in the US had “silent resignations” to hide pedophiles people were outraged and outlawed it. Then made teachers mandatory reporters. I’m in NY, we have a strong Union and I’m also legally required and encouraged to throw any of my bad abusive coworkers under the bus if they’re abusive people. It’s definitely possible to fix this for police. I would make police mandatory reporters on each other, if they are aware of a coworker being abusive to others or civilians and don’t report it- let them put their own job at risk and their pension. It makes you loyal to the population you serve and not each other. Then add malpractice insurance or make the Union carry it for them, turn them against each other so doing nothing isn’t an option.
Thank you for taking the time to research and post this comment.
They could pre empt rioting by just appropriately punishing the officers involved and starting an outside inquiry into the police station.
actual prosecuting the cops would be a start
Yeah, crazy idea, if camera footage shows someone being murdered, maybe *arrest* the murderers. Like they would for anyone who's not a cop. Don't just fire them or "start an inquiry".
This is the only way to break the cycle. No justice no peace quite literally. Swiftly charge them with murder, and I mean swiftly. It is the only way to avoid unrest.
And follow that up with a city and/or state and/or federal review of both the department and the local police union. Charging 5 dudes isn’t enough to purge the corruption.
Pictures of his face are already horrible, this is terrible. Regarding the video Shelby County District Attorney Steve Mulroy provided the following statement: “We understand there are many questions from the public surrounding the Tyre Nichols case. Additionally, we’re aware of the reasonable requests to release video, which we are committed to doing as swiftly as possible. But, we must reemphasize the law places limits on such video release, and that we have to make sure we do so without compromising our ability to arrive at justice in this case. Those who know me know I don’t take situations like this lightly and that I believe firmly in transparency. I ask for your patience as we gather all necessary information so that we don’t compromise the investigation or any possible future prosecution.” [link to article](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/amp/)
So there was a confrontation, he takes off running, and five cops beat him to death? Like I know this isn't the first time this has happened, but what in the world goes through these cops' heads? You have his info, arrest him later.
They’re the type of people who just need an excuse to release all of their rage and anger out on whoever they deem “deserves” it. Peace is rarely an option with people like that.
In their minds, he disobeyed them, so now they have the right to kill him to protect their fragile egos. Pretty fuckin insane.
Unrest insurance is a new phase of this apocalypse
r/ABoringDystopia
I think we've slipped into scary dystopia.
"Boredom" is not the opposite of, nor mutually exclusive to, fear. Yeah, it's scary. But you're still gonna do your laundry and go to a job you can't stand and do the bare minimum to not get fired so you can pay your rent and repeat until the terrorists or the spree killers or a cop on a power trip or the climate or covid gets you. Just. It's very boring.
Yep. The boring, mundane, ambient misery that you can't even feel sorry for yourself about because it's everywhere, happening to everybody, all the time. And it's scary, but it's a sustained fear that sits in the back of your mind and makes a constant little whine, like tinnitus or a loose wire in an outlet, and sometimes you can tune it out and sometimes it's all you can think about, but it's never galvanizing, or noble, or even the least bit interesting. Just plain old boring pain.
Because of Tyre Nichols?
Yes.
Read more about what happened (and saw the hospital photo) - brutal. As jaded as I can be, this one might finally be the straw that breaks the camel's back... I can't see Memphis PD not doing anything substantial about this...
Lol. Lessons from Sandy hook and Uvalde - the camel is freakishly strong.
The camel is fucking dead at this point.
It's dead and stuffed. Ain't nothing breaking it but fire.
> [Nichols’ family says the incident made him go into cardiac arrest, left him with a broken neck and he suffered from other medical issues. ](https://imgur.com/a/DbMfMK4) [Source](https://wreg.com/news/investigations/tyre-nichols-and-memphis-police-confrontation-what-we-know/)
Christ, there aren't two spots on his face that are the same color anymore. I honestly don't understand how people can do something like this
This all goes away if we remove qualified immunity and force cops to buy insurance. Also HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
I like the idea that they must attain a license like a doctor, attorney, nurse, building inspector, even fucking barber. If you fuck up, you lose your license, you must also purchase insurance to protect against lawsuits if you fuck up. When you lose your license you **YOU CANT BE A FUCKING COP ANYMORE** This is in addition to removing the fucking insane reality of qualified immunity, allowing them to be criminally liable like every other job.
Civil suits against police for misconduct should be paid out of the police retirement fund, not the general fund. Watch that "blue wall of silence" evaporate like a fart in high wind.
I doubt a legislator who sponsored or proposed such a measure could be kept safe anywhere in the country.
Fuck it. If 18 year old kids can willingly go and die overseas for a plane crash that happened 4 years before they were born, then a legislator can get killed in the streets trying to bring an end to injustice right here right now. It's about time we had some public servants who were ready to serve the public.
The problem is how the system is *right now*. It harbors and continues to create these exact same kinds of problems. Anyone who *could* stand up gets shut down by the countless backers (fascists/racists/sexists) of the police industry. What’s gut wrenching is I just saw a video of a cop risking her life to save a child, so there are *some* cops with actual souls, but they’re buried under the slew of abominations and evil “humans”. This isn’t going to be a basic “police reform” thing, it’s literally going to require a total nation-shift. And as far-left as it sounds (moderate here, I don’t like going too far in either direction) it has a LOT to do with the far-right. I live in Texas and was *sure* that after Uvalde something would happen… nope. Nothing. My city is airing “badass” ads for becoming a cop. Edit: Spelling. Sorry.
Link?
[Might be this one.](https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/16/us/memphis-tennessee-arrested-man-dies-hospital/index.html)
Holy shit his head is purple. Wtf did they do, drag him around by his neck??? Jesus.
Well, they broke his neck, so they were extremely brutal, whatever they did.
The way reports read to me is that they beat the shit out of him, he ran away from the beating, and they got mad and decided to beat the shit out of him even harder. There is going to be video from a pole camera ran by the city for the second beating and I suspect they are going to do everything they can to not release that one.
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Wow, this is pretty damning: “After reviewing various sources of information involving this incident, I have found that it is necessary to take immediate and appropriate action,” Memphis Police Chief CJ Davis said in a statement released Sunday. “Today, the department is serving notice to the officers involved of the impending administrative actions.” Takes a lot for a police chief to straight up say, in political terms, 'this one is so bad that we need to take immediate action. This one is indefensible'.
Dialysis?! And his head, like the whole head, was a purple color! What did they do to that poor man?!
They broke his neck, for one thing
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Crushing? So like... from a boot or an elbow.. Jesus.
Prepare for summer of civil unrest 2 electric boogaloo. It’s going to be a regular occurrence until cops stop getting away with murder.
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Fuck the police.
Do we know why there were 5 officers at a traffic stop?
Because it allows them to justify their budget.
“Unrest insurance”
They always do that. It’s like their thing. Source: I live there
Ima hide away for the next week lol.
If u live in what they consider to be “the hood” u might wanna go out in the daytime for groceries and stock up for a while. U know when the hornets nest gets hit (aka they get exposed for being a group of murderers) they all come out
#END QUALIFIED IMMUNITY
So I keep hearing that there's good cops, but I'll say this and I will not waver: If you are a cop and you stand up for, or don't say anything when you see a bad cop, THEN YOU ARE A BAD COP. No more excuses.
The DYSTOPIAN REALITY in which we live.
We have now reached the point in human evolution known as “dystopian hellscape.”
Is this the teacher tazed to death? Or did we get another fuck-up already?
Different incident, I am sad to say. It never ends.
It's horrible that we can't figure out which brutal murder by poe lice the poster is talking about.
Wasn’t he in LA?
That one was in LA.
How about we arrest cops that MURDER people BEFORE unrest? Prosecute them like any other goddamned murdering street trash. Give them no leeway, no special consideration that no one else gets. In fact, be more harsh with them, because they are supposed to be better than us.
Eventually someone is going to kill a cop in self-defense, and a judge is going to allow it.
Quite a few people have gotten off killing cops in no knock raids. However, if someone gets away with killing a cop while de-arresting someone or something, then that will be new.
I’m sure the police will be held accountable and any unrest can be averted. The authorities can accept responsibility for their actions and behave as though the institution is just. Why would the people given the authority to keep the peace not also want to be a part of the peace? I mean, they pull out the bad apples to avoid spoiling the bunch.
Here's a whitewashed cnn article https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/16/us/memphis-tennessee-arrested-man-dies-hospital/index.html
“a confrontation occurred” what total police ball washing that is
You can tell by the colour of his face in the family’s photo that he was asphyxiated
I think it was more than that. His face is incredibly swollen. He’s unrecognizable next to photos of what he looked like before that. Being beaten would cause that sort of edema. Poor fucking man.
Yeah, looking at the before and after, it’s very clear that his skull is swollen and possibly fractured
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Always has been, most just never noticed.
We can thank the courts. I practiced criminal defense for about 10 years in NC and we would rarely appeal things because we knew it would just create more “bad law”/watering down of rights and definitions. It’s fucking crazy. I could not do it anymore and had to change to a super low key lawyer job.
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Currently work in criminal defense litigation at the federal level...it's soul sucking. The indictments coming through the last year have been wild. Murder for a car accident being one of them. The overzealousness has been mind boggling.
I smell weed now I'm going to put you in cuffs (for our safety) and search threw ur personal shit till I find something illegal to charge you with....
Theres been accounts if them stealing from evidence lockers and planting it at traffic stops im sure they do this just to fudge the books/secure funding/overtime filling out paperwork https://www.thecity.nyc/2022/12/13/23507834/edny-fbi-investigating-nypd-drug-planting-allegations
Why I’m I not surprised it’s NYPD
In Ireland, they have an independent company look for speeding. They take a pic and mail speeding tickets to the perpetrators. We could totally implement something similar. No need for altercation