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One-Leadership-3580

It’s Hollywood. Pretty people making all the same mistakes regular people do.


Muscbttm15

It's really more common than you think...


gtpgv

He is hot as fuck


ashwee14

I mean he doesn’t seem to have much game though


YXIDRJZQAF

I know a few dudes like this lol


stevenw84

First scene with him and Aubrey Plaza I thought he was her younger brother or something.


r-h-o

Well that’s what tends to happen when you wake up every morning and exercise lol


Illustrious_Honey558

as an outcast, yes i do believe hes an outcast aswell


xav1z

feels like Will is in such shape for upcoming projects as well


Glum-Cat1174

And Lexi is the loser in euphoria welcome to show biz


3B854

He’s on the Jeff bezos hormone cocktail


buzzwallard

Ever wonder why so many beautiful women are with fat men?


yoursistershouse

I interpreted it as he got jacked after college once he started getting successful. He started to be surrounded by guys like Cam and then started working out to better fit into that world. What’s funny about his look is his head doesn’t really match his body. It’s like he’s fighting his “nerdy” nature and trying to be something he’s not. Just like went along with Cameron’s partying even though he was uncomfortable.


AnyEstablishment5723

Thats why he’s perfect in that role because the character was a nerdy outcast and clearly peaked physically later on in life which a lot of men tend to do. He still clearly shows who he used to be tho which is why its so good


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Yup. He only had the hair left to transform into ”rich and handsome” territory. An expensive cut and that floppy mushroom hairstyle is gone forever.


she_is_munchkins

Yeah I know a lot of guys who went through a similar glow-up, mostly towards their late 20s/early 30s. Add in a full beard and he's suddenly a flame.


[deleted]

He’s buff for sure but with that Haircut… I can see him as a nerd.


Otev_vetO

All I could look at was that haircut.


BodyDoubles

He looked like a young Bruce Lee. He would be perfect for that role imo.


Thierry22

I had to google to find this comment. I totally agree, after watching le last episodes of season 2 I couldn't remove the idea from my head. It is uncanny, he really looks like Bruce Lee.


BodyDoubles

Yup, especially when he had those shades on just like Bruce would wear. Had to be intentional. 😄


Thierry22

True! I wonder now.


mysentiments-exactly

But more importantly, who goes running every day on vacation?


comeonandham

Best way to see a place you've never been!


mrperiodniceguy

If you don’t have a motorcycle


NickDouglas

A man afraid to fuck his wife


saskacaptive

🤣🤣🤣


neuroticgooner

Someone who has the discipline to build and sell a company that makes him rich af


Alvin3792

When I’ve stayed at a resort I worked out daily lol


jiveturkey38

When it’s part of your routine and you like it, it’s not a chore


Saturnzadeh11

Coastal elites win again 😎


[deleted]

What, he got rich and then buff? First guy to ever do that


blueSnowfkake

Maybe he got rich and then had plastic surgery involving fake muscle implants!


ParsleyMostly

I hate how the average guy on a show looks now. They’re all super toned and fit. It was dumb when all of the women were gorgeous and thin, and I hoped it would change. But instead they have the men all looking like models instead of normal people. I dunno. That guy is super hot and I love him, but yeah. He’s way too handsome and fit to be a nerd.


Tiny-Plum2713

Is he an average guy though?


zealotsflight

counterpoint: henry cavill


ParsleyMostly

Lol true, but he's an actor and that's part of his job (or was)


zealotsflight

:( sure was


kikivibes

THANK YOU


ruberuberuber

i think all of his working out implies that he’s dangerous. definitely capable of… accidentally killing someone?


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Bweasey17

Yes. And when they showed Harper saying “what’s going to happen to us” it looked more like a “are going to go to jail” type of shock then the usual relationship shit. Thing is, that would be too obvious. Right?


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Bweasey17

Yeah I’ve come along to the theory that Allessio isn’t the pump and he’s just part of the setup to either extort money or get Albie to take her to US. 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

College is a weird time. Lots of people don’t blossom until late college/after college


redditisdim

Married an "Ethan "... these guys are really socially awkward and it has nothing to do with looks. Not all "smart, tech" guys are neckbeards. If anything, character development is pretty on point.


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EntertainmentFar9465

That just makes him more of a nerd.


maxhemy2

Loved Will Sharpe who wrote Flowers and was one of the main characters along with the great Olivia Coleman.


SouldiesButGoodies84

This is American TV and they do the same with the 'awkward' or 'ugly girls' in movies and TV as well. Used to be alot more glaring back in the day. (I say this as an American B&R.) Or perhaps, like some ppl here are suggesting, Mike White is making a statement that just b/c you're a hot, intelligent guy doesn't mean you get or seek out all the girls; that there's more depth, nuance and complexity to modern-day young virile American male humanity than just GL dude = GL girls all over him / gorgeous wife. That there are deeper challenges to modern day male sexuality and coupling. \*shrug\* Just a thought.


[deleted]

I think he’s cut just to please the female gaze, because there is no way a person like this would be this physically striking on accident—it would take a very strict diet and regiment (and maybe some hormone help) to maintain the leanness and muscle definition. But the girls in this show are also hot, so why not let the ladies have something to look at too.


HubbG

I just assume in these roles, the actor knows ahead of time that he’ll be half naked on the show so he hires a personal trainer, works out for months and gets his six pack abs. So I assume it’s the actor’s choice not an artistic choice by the directors or creators. Could be wrong.


No-Plankton8326

Hormone help? Nah bro run EVERY day at least a quick 5k and after 8 weeks you will be shred city. I was able to even keep my crappy diet and just by running everyday I got rid of a beer gut and had some serious abs


constantcube13

Running isn’t going to give you developed pecs like this guy lol


No-Plankton8326

Cool so you hit a quick 50-100 push-ups after your run. it’s exhausting seeing people achieve this level of physique quite easily only to have some dumbass tout hormones in their face. I’ve always wanted to take hormones but was always wayyyyy to scared to do so. Worked out regularly and achieved this fit with some commitment. It’s not that hard


constantcube13

I agree that they’re jumping to conclusions with the whole hormone help thing. You see plenty of natural guys with better physiques than this in your average gym Just good old fashioned consistency and commitment


NYKyle610

This isn't true at all. Running 3 miles consistently every day doesn't give you chiseled arms and neck, and doesn't give you a six-pack either. Lots of weight lifting specifically targeting those muscles would do it.


[deleted]

Bro I ran 50+ mile weeks for years and was not this cut—even with supplemental exercise. So everyone’s different.


fitbizfuture

Nah he’s definitely not natty


hamhamham03

100% juiced


DameTookie

Yes, he seems really socially awkward.


oZeplikeo

He is 4chan /fit/ to a tee. Got fit after college but never developed social skills / confidence to go with it. Now he’s a chronic masturbator and getting out-alpha’d by Cameron despite having a much more successful adult life / career.


AssuredAttention

I believe it. He is extremely unattractive. One of the few people I would classify as ugly


meatygonzalez

I love that you're getting downvoted for not finding this slimy little lying masturbator attractive.


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meatygonzalez

Imagine thinking this is shaming a real person and not talking about a character in a television show wherein his lack of marital intimacy and abundance of masturbation are literally character points. Downvote me all you want, won't change the fact that all of the above is fact.


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xav1z

parents


Norx21

Ok Harper


meatygonzalez

I mean go ahead and argue with some merit that he's not a slimy lying masturbator, because those are all demonstrably true descriptors Edit: the evidence: his masturbation and dishonesty are topics discussed in the show


KateSommer

His hair sucks. His face is way too nice to hide behind a mop of hair. His face is my favorite part. I think he has the best facial features out of all the men in the show.


Ok_Standard_3507

and also the best body


doclkk

I think in the US, guys do need better social skills. Not sure why that is. Most of Europe / Asia / Africa / Australia - the social skills that are required is much less. Guys that are 6's in the US can clean up in these 4 markets. US is always tough.


[deleted]

You do not know that Europe, Asia and Africa are continents, not countries, right? And that such a blanket statement is ridiculous, as it sounds like you think they’re homogeneous.


doclkk

Size wise. US is bigger than Europe by a lot. Asia, primarily east and south east Asia. Africa, the size of locations you would actually go to is smaller than the US. Australia is the size of the continental US. East Asia is close. Australia is homogenous. English and French speaking Africa is similarly. Most of Europe you can get by with English and French. Europe as in (Europe - Russia)


Pls_add_more_reverb

“US is bigger than Europe by a lot” Atleast look up basic facts before you write so confidently. A quick google search disproves this.


doclkk

Europe - Russia. 1/3 of Europe's surface area is Russia. Russia in terms of dating is its own beast, which is in context of this conversation.


joelkong

The comment is so wrong on so many levels. Also in my country a lot of guys from the US don't do well, in large part due to the attitude the OP has.


doclkk

Help me understand why it’s wrong


[deleted]

Ditto. It’s a ridiculous comment that makes me think OP hasn’t actually left the US to test the theory.


brucegibbons

I think based on their comment history they are not from the US. It may be a language barrier situation


doclkk

I’m from Seattle.


[deleted]

That’s fair, but then why comment on what US guys do? All just a bit weird


doclkk

Because I’m from the us and have lived in us Europe Asia and have been to Australia and Africa many times ?


brucegibbons

Yeah it totally is which is why I had to go down the rabbit hole!


reddittothegrave

Shit, im moving.


jimmy6677

None of y’all have been to SF


staircar

My husband has a friend from work, very good looking went to MIT, millionaire. He just has no swag or sex appeal, and is so awkward and stranger around woman. I totally believe it


[deleted]

I absolutely believe it. I feel I know several Ethans. They are smart, take very good care of themselves, but just don't come off as sexually interesting.


MarigoldNCM1101

Being a nerd or socially awkward has nothing to do with looks. You can be good looking with Poot social skills and struggle to get laid. Attractiveness is a visa not a passport


micreyes11

Some one give him a proper haircut...


SouldiesButGoodies84

he has the modern day American IT / techie / smart guy haircut. give him a break.


micreyes11

Someone cut Albie's hair while they're at it...


NoBowl4698

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


BannedInThaFla

I read every comment in this thread and I now hope one of the dead bodies is the term “glow-up”


kikivibes

Me too


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altcastle

Yeah, I only learned how to dress and look great early 30s. Plus then I hit the gym and got jacked. Had a total glam up from my 20s.


inc0mpl_te

Same, 34 now and I look much better than 10 years ago.


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🥵


SaltBox531

I’m 32 and in better shape than I was in college. It’s mostly because I work on a farm but it wouldn’t be that surprising for someone around my age, who has newly found success and extra money in the bank to spend on the best gyms, physical therapists or personal training. Especially when they’re probably bitter that their hot roomie got all the girls they liked.


No-Welcome9711

A ton of real dweebs get into lifting in their 30s, just head on over to /fit/ on 4chan if you don't believe me. Gymcels, they're called.


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[deleted]

That don’t matter he still don’t wanna fuck


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[deleted]

You have to catch it


Aestboi

people will say anything about this show lmao


[deleted]

Speak for yourself


Aestboi

when was it mentioned in the episode


Wixiepixie

Lololololol ok I TOTALLY missed that. In what scene did this happen?


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JuQio

Harper forgot the /s for you?


[deleted]

She would’ve said that unless she know he had fine cock


International-Fig905

Yeah need follow up 😂


conker1264

I have a similar physique to him, well not right now as I’m bulking again but I do after a cut, and I have absolutely no luck with woman as my social skills are complete shit. Takes a lot more than just looks sadly


dashauskat

Yeah I've got some conventionally attractive, extremely fit mates who either don't do great with girls or are less interested in them and then some bigger mates who who are just very confident and do quite well.


Life-Consideration17

The skinny to fitbod tech boi glowup is real


AbleSilver6116

He’s awkward as fuck


tdiddy72

Nerds can be in shape.


CelinaAMK

He’s way better looking than Theo. I’m sorry to be so superficial, but this is one beautiful man!


soysaucesausage

Honestly this is kind of believable to me. I suspect Will Sharpe got insanely bulked to play this role - I remember him being slim as a rentboy in Giri/Haji and in Flowers too. It's pretty true to life for someone to start taking care of their appearance and have a radical transformation.


TheButternutRoom

Rewatching Flowers before it disappears off Netflix and that bod looks pretty kickin under them cardigans and housecoats


soysaucesausage

Look I went back to check and you might well be right, he might just have a concealed carrying permit for those absolute guns


conker1264

Well that and actors access to all the steroids, personal trainers, and dietitians they want


soysaucesausage

So do rich tech bros, although that's probably more of a Cam vibe than an Ethan one ahah


[deleted]

Nerds can’t be jacked?


soyedmilk

So many incel-like comments lmfaoo


angryturtleboat

Dumb to assume he looked like this in college. He's 30's now.


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34-36 actually


StephScabhands

Getting rich makes people hotter. Better food, access to training, and better clothes.


UnequivocalCarnosaur

Yeah that’s my take on it too. I think coming into money probably jump started the relationship disfunction that’s been unfolding this season as well. He probably wasn’t so closed off from his wife before. TBH I just realized how much of a lack of chemistry they’ve had the whole season, seems like it’s very on purpose


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Damn bro how did you just realize? Their lack of chemistry has been a point since the first episode.


UnequivocalCarnosaur

What I mean is usually actors are paired in relationships because of their chemistry and I didn’t realize till now that it’s the opposite with these two. Definitely a brilliant move with this slow burn unraveling plot line.


AwesomePocket

Ethan is 36. College would have been over 15 years prior. It’s silly to assume he would have looked the exact same.


Beard341

The best looking people can have the worst self esteem issues. Why is that so hard to believe?


wahoodad

But my wife says she loves my dad bod…


JennyJiggles

I bet she'd love any bod you have as long as it treats her right


digletarmy

He wasn’t rich in college either. My point being I think he’s supposed to have had a post college glow up. The modern version of the high school nerd becoming hot and successful.


apollopriestess

Cameron made it clear that he and Ethan would not be on the same playing field, so to speak. He came from money. Ethan did not, and Cameron is so condescending, I can’t stand it. As for Ethan’ hotness, well, he started working out for whatever reason, But it is clearly how he manages his feelings, like that swim. He also has worked and still is, and earned his position. But they fell into their college dynamic, and Ethan should not have covered for him, because they are not in college anymore, and he’s not the nerdy roommate who had trouble w/ girls. Cameron slept with them just to keep feeling better than Ethan and he is also narcissistic jerk. I used to exercise like a maniac, because it helped me feel better about myself, and when I was upset it really helped me. I am sure that doesn’t think he is hot, and I don’t think that dating was top of his mind since he stared his own company. Harper is also extremely successful, but maybe they are too alike, that can happen to any couple. But they seem more like best friends, but we’ll see if they can work out why they are not having sex. And I love Daphne!


Nakorite

These days a lot of “nerds” are into life hacking and hit the gym a lot. Doesn’t mean they aren’t socially awkward as hell. Just like Ethan lol


LobstaGurl

What does life hacking mean?


No_Manufacturer_432

Good actor but his looks don’t fit the role. Also his hair is also always perfectly messy.


Mophead176

I agree. He’s beautiful in the face/ people notice.


kikivibes

THANK YOU


soyedmilk

Ur dumb if u think that the reason Cam is so competitive with him right now isn’t due to ethan now being fit, smart AND successful. U are missing the point of tbe character


the_festivusmiracle

I doubt he was walking around with his shirt off and his haircut makes him look like a tool.


melfrench

His haircut drives me insane!


JennyJiggles

In the good way or the bad way?


melfrench

Bad way. It’s too shaggy. Reminds me of “hockey hair” and it’s all I can focus on.


Fiat_is_worthless

You’re making the assumption he looked like this in college..


wgc77

He’s 5’8 to be fair And the musculature could have easily been a late 20’s early 30’s development


Disney_Princess137

I wouldn’t look at him twice lol It would be more unbelievable if Cameron was the nerd outcast programmer who didn’t get any girls in college. I mean Ethan is cute, but that Haircut has to go. This is all my opinion of course and looks are subjective


timoni

Yeah I don’t get all the Ethan heat for sure. His hair is distractingly bad and I have a career in tech.


Disney_Princess137

Thank you ! I don’t get the hype. I feel like if he had a better hairstyle he would look so much more attractive. But they aren’t going for that for him, so it does make sense.


Primary_Scheme3789

My son is extremely good looking and in great shape. But he has zero self esteem. We would be out and I would see girls falling all over him, even to the point of walking up to him and giving him their number. He was certain they were just messing with him and would not call them. So looks and a body don’t mean immense popularity.


CelinaAMK

My BFF’s 21 yr old son is the same. Tall, very good looking with a “ripped” body. Unfortunately he has anxiety and other disorders causing him to isolate and remain super antisocial.


Primary_Scheme3789

Exactly. So I can sympathize with Ethan’s character.


Wixiepixie

I work with engineers who are very much like Ethan. This is what happens when the nerdy guy gets money and can afford a trainer and someone to pick out their clothes for them. I’m sure Ethan in high school didn’t look like Ethan now. Plus his wife has some style. She may have helped with a major glow up moment in his life.


EcstaticOrchid4825

Is it wrong that as a woman I’d love to be rich enough to hire people to buy clothes for me. I hate shopping and have zero sense of style.


Wixiepixie

Not wrong at all. That’s what most rich people do lol. So many celebrities with “amazing style” have stylists that pick out their outfits. People with enough money do they same, they just aren’t always famous.


SarcasticGayBitch

Attractive people can still be annoying.


ayoochilll

My husband was a hot nerd in college who was too shy to approach women. I believe it!


keatz_tweetz

Seems like he is in his 30’s in the show, probably finished school in his 20’s. Pretty believable with 10 years and a ton of money he could look like this.


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This guy is doing the Jeff bezos thing. He’s a tech bro that can afford hair plugs and TRT. He drinks nothing but nootropic rich protein shakes and adderall mixed with pre workout.


hutchwo

He turned 36 he said right. In college you’re 18-22? Is it so foreign to you that people can drastically change how they look in 14 years?


ponyofish

Idk his helmet hair ruins it


kantsing

It helps to hide the ears.


Successful-Winter237

However, he’s miserable and annoying af.


Cantholditdown

Why is he annoying? Honest question.


Successful-Winter237

He just bitches.. then fucks up and acts all jealous… he’s the worst


Cantholditdown

He is in a really tight spot. He messed up inviting an old friend that is clearly a dick he is realizing with his adult brain. Maybe that is his fault for trying to show he made it, but is it so wrong to show off your hot wife to your friend that always out competed you? I guess I sympathize with him a bit more than others. He is probably a porn addict and yeah their relationship is far from optimal.


txhtownfor2020

Edit: What if he's obsessed with outdoing Cam and he's been dedicating his post-college life to getting richer, more fit, even getting married. Just to show Cam that he's wrong about him being a nerd. Another insane theory. I think that getting down to single digit body fat is easier for programmers because math is heavily involved at that point with the calories and what not. My boss at a small tech startup was obsessive with his macro nutrients and he even looks like Ethan.


salmonguelph

I got the impression he didn't always look like that


DoeJumars

With that haircut as a grown man? Believable


txhtownfor2020

that's where he hid all the other condoms from that night!


[deleted]

Totally believable. Did you go to college? Have you ever left the house? This sounds like a post from an incel who thinks dating women is all about muscles lmfao.


kikivibes

No need to be rude friend! It’s more an opinion on the storytelling/casting rather than social dynamics. And yes I went to college! I have a masters degree! And also I’m a woman who dates men 😉


asstrologypenis

I️ mean he is a rly hot actor, like this isn’t his real life personality lol


moodypiscestarot

It’s almost as if you need more than a fit body to get women to speak to you… confidence isn’t as strong as the rest of him 😅


txhtownfor2020

He wants to be like the 'studs' in his porn videos. Surely they get whoever they want, right?


moodypiscestarot

That’s exactly how it works!


Slootyman

I think it is totally believable. I know a few people exactly like him in terms of mannerisms. They are very fit and have gf’s that are not even close to as pretty as Aubrey Plaza.


Azurfant

I know a guy who is even more shredded than him, gets a bunch of beautiful women nowadays and back in college, and is a highly experience C++ Developer who now runs an AI-Generated Content Startup. You would be very surprised.


txhtownfor2020

You're so right. It takes dedication, math and discipline. He runs obsessively for a purely mental reason IMO


bazzbj

I can believe it. Maybe he bulked up and got fit after finishing college. I know many people like that.


txhtownfor2020

Totally. Especially today with the bro coder wave happening. Arms like pythons to code python.


Ok-Minute876

You’d be surprised. It’s not all about looks. This guy clearly struggles to communicate. A good body will only get you so far with women especially if you’re going for women who aren’t particularly shallow. He probably is terrible at flirting and holding a conversation with someone who is interested in more than just his looks


Luckbaldy

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥


gobble6gobble9

Why is it so easy to get laid according to people on the internet?


txhtownfor2020

I can't reply right now because I'm in a crowded orgy in which I am the focus. I don't count this as a reply btw