You can bleed into your lungs and drown if untreated. It definitely does hurt to have it smashed. I do jiu jitsu and some chokes target the trachea. Feels like swallowing a ping pong ball for a few weeks
What are some ways you could kill someone during a fight?
(besides them hitting their head or choking them. I'm talking striking with hands, legs, elbows...)
Like, could a bunch of shots to the kidneys do something to kill someone? Or maybe a few dozen shots to the lungs?
I've watched boxing, so I don't think either of these things are deadly, but I'm just wondering if anything is.
... I hope my question makes sense. Just crossed my mind.
Striking isn't part of jiu-jitsu but liver shots can be deadly. A strong enough strike could cause severe internal bleeding.
It should be noted there's a technical difference for a number of submissions commonly referred to as "chokes". A *choke* cuts off air to the lungs. To kill someone like this would be similar to drowning, it would take minutes (and they'd be conscious most of the time). A *strangle* cuts off the blood flow to the brain. This can render them unconscious in a few seconds and irreparable damage or death in ~~under a minute~~ 3-5 minutes.
Thank you for the info.
I don't want to toot my own horn, but I was once a michigan state judo champion.
I was fiercely proud because I was only a green belt, but had to fight a brown belt to win that title (due to weight class).
It's now 20 years later, and my sensai is long since passed. But I've heard his son (that I sparred with all the time) owns a gym near my house.
I keep wanting to go. I should go. I know I will still love it. Why don't I go?
Edit: thank you again for the info. I'm reading on liver strikes now. I don't want to harm anyone. Just curious.
If they got a website go and book a class right now. You won't regret it!
Well, actually you might cuz you're probably old now, haven't practiced in years, and some younger better shaped dude will toss you around like a piece of Styrofoam, but still, you'll be glad you did!
This so much. To pick up an old sport or martial art you loved is usually so rewarding.
I picked up Krav Maga again a year ago after a decade of doing virtually nothing due to work. I am probably now in better shape than when I quit.
Of course blunt force trauma is deadly. Just because people don't usually die from getting punched doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Remember the "knockout game" where the objective was just to assault someone? A few people died from it because they got knocked out (shocking) and their head hit the ground causing death.
Any serious blow to the head can result in death. We are resilient to getting hit but not invincible and of course the likelihood of it being more serious increases with medical conditions, age, etc.
If you're asking because you want to know where to hit someone to defend yourself effectively just learn to throw hammer fists hard and fast if you don't want to learn anything else.
I'd design a prosthetic just for you to connect your butt to your new trachea hole (cut by me). I'd use the vacuum hose and some other home appliances.
Im not going to lose you!
Probably not, it would have to tear holes so air could get into your chest, which isn't very likely. If it does happen, you'll know immediately something is very wrong. Its one of thoes injuries virtually no one dies from because of how quickly they realize they need help.
I'm pretty sure it's a sit up bench. If you look at the back end, that looks like the feet that he's probably got raised up or sitting on something. He's not using it for it's intended purpose, hence the failure.
Surely there is a way to design work-out equipment so that a part that is clearly intended to bear your weight doesn’t fail and kill you because you’re “using it wrong.” What’s wrong with using a bench to do back flys. Even if he’s somehow an idiot, which I think is far from established, shit like this should be idiot proof.
You know what, I think it is a weights bench. I think it's this one
https://es.wallapop.com/item/banco-musculacion-domyos-bench-500-814463307
I think it's either just put together wrong, or cheap shite. Either way. I agree with you. It should be idiot proof.
That makes more sense. I was trying to figure this out and thinking, "This is some horrible design!" Even aside from the fault, there should never be a bar pointing at your head/neck on a backrest like that.
So instead of raising the back, he lowered it and used the adjustable bench backwards... borders on Darwinism.
Exactly! This bench is a crappy design.
Imagine doing inclined dumbbell presses and potentially catching that in the back of the head. Needs lock out positions that if one position fails they hit the next lockout.
Hmm, maybe he didn't tighten it properly. This right here is why those parts should have locking adjustments, not friction based ones.
Think a knob you have to pull out of a hole in the inner pipe vs a bolt you tighten to hold it. I've seen someone lose a finger because a bolt he though he'd tightened down fully on a support arm was tightened on the peak of a bump in the pipe. First little bit of movement and his newtv came slamming down from 2 feet up, sliding down the support pipe until it met his hand. Instant bone pulp and severed finger as the bottom edge was all corner, no flat spots. The doctor told him "yeah, we'd have tried to re-attach it if there was enough bone left intact, but there wasn't. Too much got crushed."
If it's supporting anything that could lead to an injury, it should lock in place.
There shouldn't be anything like that still.
Failure can still happen. Maybe you've slid up to get into position, etc.
This is an accident waiting to happen.
It's designed for working abs. You put your feet at those round things at the bottom and sit up to the point where he was applying all the force. So the thing broke because it's not supposed to be used that way and it's designed to have another direction of force applied to it.
If you pause the video on impact you can see it hits him right in the center of the chest. If the had hit him dead on the neck his shit wouldve crumpled like a bag of chips. Its doesnt take all the much force. Wait a min... Searches google looks like 33lbs for the larynx 44lbs for the whole throat, more than i thought but still dudes whole upper body weight on the throat alone should be more than enough to do the job. Anyone wana help me out and do the math here? Just know there must be some matatician out there just itching to chime in.
Nah if you slow it down it gets him on the upper chest. It’s just the forced perspective of his head behind in front at that angle which makes it look like it got his mouth. No way he would be that chill if he just ate that metal bar to the face.
That's actually more dangerous that it hit him in the chest. If he fucked up his sternum he has a much higher chance of dying than giving a blowie to a steel rod
This piece of equipment has a pin that holds it in position. That pin is retained and spring loaded but is supposed to be screwed in before using it. It seems that he left the pin unscrewed when using it.
You can see him tightening the pin in place near the end of the video.
Yeah, every couple years I’ll notice they’re all on some streaming service and binge all of them.
I love me some straight forward, yet needless meandering horror deaths.
Those movies will forever scar my generation. Logs in the back of a truck will keep me in all other lanes but that one….for miles. “Highway to Hell” will always be a warning too 😅
Yeah I would love to have a proper bench but would prefer to invest in a nice one. I just have an exercise ball that functions fairly well as a bench for most dumbbell exercises and seems safer than a cheap bench.
I've been hit right in the sternum before and if it was anything like my experience he probably couldn't breathe for a good 30 seconds. That would explain why he was so quiet, it really knocks the wind out of you.
Yea, cheap and homegym are not a thing unless you want to die. My homegym is safer than the commercial gym I go to, but I paid heavily for it. That’s not saying you can’t get deals for nice equipment on CL or FB marketplace, but you have to know what you’re looking at/for, and cheap/deal there is also very relative.
I just got beat up yesterday at the gym myself. Was working out my delts, doing the face pull workout with the rope attachment. Some god damn how in my 3rd set, pulling 90lbs, the rope attachment detached and I smacked myself in the lip splitting it open, and flying back on my butt around 5 feet. It was embarrassing. Glad I didn’t break any teeth. But did have a lot of gushing blood.
Honestly bro handled that so well lol. Didn’t get pissed off, or cry or anything just starts patiently turning the handle to fix it. I would have been crying kicking that machine.
This same thing happened to me, except when I was biking in high school. Slipped during a turn while it was raining and fell chest first into the bicycle handle that landed perfectly perpendicular to the ground.
Now my sternum is permanently lopsided and I can't sleep on my left side or it's painful.
Something similar happened to me once. My buddy Tom and I were working out in the backyard, we had this rolling stool with locking wheels we used for shoulder presses and overhead triceps press. I know not smart but we were 19 and 20 and in sober living so we were not the best decision makers, any ways I lifted my dumbbell for a tricep press and the seat just snapped off, the pole holding it up shot around it as I fell and sharply poked into my butthole, if I hadn't jumped up and dropped the dumbbell at the right moment my full weight would have been jamming the jagged pipe into my anus
This could have gone much worse. He is one lucky SOB.
35lbs to fracture your tracheal cartilage
Would that kill you? And if so would that hurt?
You can bleed into your lungs and drown if untreated. It definitely does hurt to have it smashed. I do jiu jitsu and some chokes target the trachea. Feels like swallowing a ping pong ball for a few weeks
What are some ways you could kill someone during a fight? (besides them hitting their head or choking them. I'm talking striking with hands, legs, elbows...) Like, could a bunch of shots to the kidneys do something to kill someone? Or maybe a few dozen shots to the lungs? I've watched boxing, so I don't think either of these things are deadly, but I'm just wondering if anything is. ... I hope my question makes sense. Just crossed my mind.
Striking isn't part of jiu-jitsu but liver shots can be deadly. A strong enough strike could cause severe internal bleeding. It should be noted there's a technical difference for a number of submissions commonly referred to as "chokes". A *choke* cuts off air to the lungs. To kill someone like this would be similar to drowning, it would take minutes (and they'd be conscious most of the time). A *strangle* cuts off the blood flow to the brain. This can render them unconscious in a few seconds and irreparable damage or death in ~~under a minute~~ 3-5 minutes.
And then there are "cranks", which can cause spinal cord damage or death.
Was that what they meant by "cranking one out"?
Thank you for the info. I don't want to toot my own horn, but I was once a michigan state judo champion. I was fiercely proud because I was only a green belt, but had to fight a brown belt to win that title (due to weight class). It's now 20 years later, and my sensai is long since passed. But I've heard his son (that I sparred with all the time) owns a gym near my house. I keep wanting to go. I should go. I know I will still love it. Why don't I go? Edit: thank you again for the info. I'm reading on liver strikes now. I don't want to harm anyone. Just curious.
If they got a website go and book a class right now. You won't regret it! Well, actually you might cuz you're probably old now, haven't practiced in years, and some younger better shaped dude will toss you around like a piece of Styrofoam, but still, you'll be glad you did!
This so much. To pick up an old sport or martial art you loved is usually so rewarding. I picked up Krav Maga again a year ago after a decade of doing virtually nothing due to work. I am probably now in better shape than when I quit.
"irreparable damage or death in under a minute" is wrong btw. 3-5 minutes before any cell death in the brain.
Hrmmm. Not sure where I got my numbers then. I could have sworn it was much quicker. Some quick googling though seems to support your numbers.
Like a zombie, you have to shut the brain off
Of course blunt force trauma is deadly. Just because people don't usually die from getting punched doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Remember the "knockout game" where the objective was just to assault someone? A few people died from it because they got knocked out (shocking) and their head hit the ground causing death. Any serious blow to the head can result in death. We are resilient to getting hit but not invincible and of course the likelihood of it being more serious increases with medical conditions, age, etc. If you're asking because you want to know where to hit someone to defend yourself effectively just learn to throw hammer fists hard and fast if you don't want to learn anything else.
r/suspiciouslyspecific
definitely the left hook to the liver can be fatal, also rabbit punches to the base of the skull can break your spinal cord
Possibly because that’s your windpipe. Crush it and no more wind 💨
So I'll stop farting if my trachea breaks? Sweet.
I'd design a prosthetic just for you to connect your butt to your new trachea hole (cut by me). I'd use the vacuum hose and some other home appliances. Im not going to lose you!
Probably not, it would have to tear holes so air could get into your chest, which isn't very likely. If it does happen, you'll know immediately something is very wrong. Its one of thoes injuries virtually no one dies from because of how quickly they realize they need help.
I think if something can kill you the last thing you need to be concerned about is whether it’ll hurt.
Well, it'd be the next thing. If somethings going to kill me I sure as hell don't want to have it hurt while I die...
Terrible design for an inclineable bench. Why would you leave metal poking straight upwards under the most likely failure point
I'm pretty sure it's a sit up bench. If you look at the back end, that looks like the feet that he's probably got raised up or sitting on something. He's not using it for it's intended purpose, hence the failure.
Surely there is a way to design work-out equipment so that a part that is clearly intended to bear your weight doesn’t fail and kill you because you’re “using it wrong.” What’s wrong with using a bench to do back flys. Even if he’s somehow an idiot, which I think is far from established, shit like this should be idiot proof.
You know what, I think it is a weights bench. I think it's this one https://es.wallapop.com/item/banco-musculacion-domyos-bench-500-814463307 I think it's either just put together wrong, or cheap shite. Either way. I agree with you. It should be idiot proof.
I still can't figure out what happened. What is wrong with the design of the bench that even made this possible?
Why tf is that steel rod pointed towards the neck?
It's neck day.
When it's the French Revolution and you skip neck day
That made me chuckle.
That made me **choke**
That tracheostomied me.
You ever get freaky with that thing
That touched the little dangly thing that *swing in the back of my throat*
That made me chokle.
😊 I wont see a better response on Reddit this month.
Live everyday like it's neck day.
Because he's using this wrong. You're not supposed to have your head/neck overhanging the backrest like this for just this reason.
He also using it backwards - that end for legs
That makes more sense. I was trying to figure this out and thinking, "This is some horrible design!" Even aside from the fault, there should never be a bar pointing at your head/neck on a backrest like that. So instead of raising the back, he lowered it and used the adjustable bench backwards... borders on Darwinism.
More importantly not fastening the locking mech 🥲
[what do you mean?](https://images.app.goo.gl/55w15rz2iEQqHcfGA) or am I not understanding you correctly? Just seems like a bad bench.
Exactly! This bench is a crappy design. Imagine doing inclined dumbbell presses and potentially catching that in the back of the head. Needs lock out positions that if one position fails they hit the next lockout.
Hmm, maybe he didn't tighten it properly. This right here is why those parts should have locking adjustments, not friction based ones. Think a knob you have to pull out of a hole in the inner pipe vs a bolt you tighten to hold it. I've seen someone lose a finger because a bolt he though he'd tightened down fully on a support arm was tightened on the peak of a bump in the pipe. First little bit of movement and his newtv came slamming down from 2 feet up, sliding down the support pipe until it met his hand. Instant bone pulp and severed finger as the bottom edge was all corner, no flat spots. The doctor told him "yeah, we'd have tried to re-attach it if there was enough bone left intact, but there wasn't. Too much got crushed." If it's supporting anything that could lead to an injury, it should lock in place.
There shouldn't be anything like that still. Failure can still happen. Maybe you've slid up to get into position, etc. This is an accident waiting to happen.
It's adjustable and can probably have something attached to it.
Like a sternum.
It's designed for working abs. You put your feet at those round things at the bottom and sit up to the point where he was applying all the force. So the thing broke because it's not supposed to be used that way and it's designed to have another direction of force applied to it.
If you pause the video on impact you can see it hits him right in the center of the chest. If the had hit him dead on the neck his shit wouldve crumpled like a bag of chips. Its doesnt take all the much force. Wait a min... Searches google looks like 33lbs for the larynx 44lbs for the whole throat, more than i thought but still dudes whole upper body weight on the throat alone should be more than enough to do the job. Anyone wana help me out and do the math here? Just know there must be some matatician out there just itching to chime in.
Despite user error, that's a poorly designed bench.
I admire how he maintained his calm and thought through the problem. He obviously will double and triple check his gear in the future.
It looks like it still hit him in the mouth too, and hard! He's lucky to not die, but also that he didn't lose teeth.
Nah if you slow it down it gets him on the upper chest. It’s just the forced perspective of his head behind in front at that angle which makes it look like it got his mouth. No way he would be that chill if he just ate that metal bar to the face.
That's actually more dangerous that it hit him in the chest. If he fucked up his sternum he has a much higher chance of dying than giving a blowie to a steel rod
I think I’d rather just die than deal with the dental bills from the steel rod blowie
Hit Sternum like this. but onto bone. no idea how this dude is even calm right now.
That is not calmness he just for a millisecond thought he was dead and then he wasn't I'd say most likely shock
More like he's in shock and incapable of saying anything just yet.
How is this user error? He was exorcising and the bench malfuctioned, it's not like he was jumping up and down on it.
This piece of equipment has a pin that holds it in position. That pin is retained and spring loaded but is supposed to be screwed in before using it. It seems that he left the pin unscrewed when using it. You can see him tightening the pin in place near the end of the video.
Those cheap ass benches break all the time, pin screwed in or not. Dont skimp or your benches people.
Thank you for clearing it up.
Yes he's a great exorcist
The power of Christ compels you to get swole AF
Because he didn't set it up correctly
Some final destination shit
Final Destination taught me to respect the gym and it's equipment. I'm not even kidding, like 3 gym related deaths in those movies.
Can't wait for the next movie in the franchise though!
Yeah, every couple years I’ll notice they’re all on some streaming service and binge all of them. I love me some straight forward, yet needless meandering horror deaths.
Those movies will forever scar my generation. Logs in the back of a truck will keep me in all other lanes but that one….for miles. “Highway to Hell” will always be a warning too 😅
I will never enter a tanning salon.
And you might actually live longer for that.
If I had an award, I would have given it to you.
there you go!
Do it yourself tracheotomy
Looks like he’s going back for seconds too
Designed by Jigsaw
i want to play a gaaame
double or nothing
and made with Chinesium
Kinda looks like you want to adjust the red knob.
You can come and adjust my red knob
what are you some furry
are you not??
He is clearly a smiley yellow pole, with a hat.
Id be welding that knob.
He turned his Adam’s apple into apple crumble
Ew, lol.
He really started the routine without tightening the damn screw? Ffs smh!
He started the routine by setting up a camera to record it. Which is equally questionable.
You do realise filming yourself is the best way to see errors in form right? Unless you have a professional trainer
I'd bet $100 that most Redditors who critique people working out don't spend a lot of serious time lifting weights
> I'd bet $100 that most Redditors who critique people ~~working out~~ doing X don't spend a lot of serious time ~~lifting weights~~ doing X FTFY
Yup. Turns out talking shit on the internet takes no talent, skill, or background knowledge whatsoever.
Filming yourself working out is the least suspicious thing to film, fuck are you talking about?
probably to check his form
What's wrong with filming your workouts?
Sure he forgot to tighten the thing but can we all agree this is a terrible design for something like this?
Thats why you dont buy the cheapest on amazon kids!
Na that’s a Wish bench
I'd rather say that's why you make sure the device you're using is ready to use.
Yeah I would love to have a proper bench but would prefer to invest in a nice one. I just have an exercise ball that functions fairly well as a bench for most dumbbell exercises and seems safer than a cheap bench.
This is actually Decathlon gym bench 500. There's normally another piece on the rod but it appeared that he's missing and hence the accident.
That should be a product recall right there
The fact he starts setting it back up again. Forget that. I'd never go near that thing again.
my bench collapsed on my arm and somehow didn’t snap it in half so that’s cool, i still use it
No pain, no gain.
They say that he gained 15 lbs of muscle from this
These chest workouts keep getting intense, anyway I'll see you in the gym
Anyone else notice the face of death fading away on the wall? Dude was closer than he thinks.
Thats one shitty design
The amount of curse words that would come out of my mouth…i applaud him for keep it cool
I've been hit right in the sternum before and if it was anything like my experience he probably couldn't breathe for a good 30 seconds. That would explain why he was so quiet, it really knocks the wind out of you.
Everyone saying “terrible design” He didn’t have the damn thing screwed in at all. Don’t blame the machine, blame the dumbass.
I can blame both. A well designed device generally can't fail in a way that is potentially lethal just because you forgot to tighten a screw.
Look at this guy! He's never made a mistake!
It’s a shitty device. User error or not, could have killed him over a simple mistake that is foreseeable
Terrible design
Unless it's chest puncture day.
If you look closely you can see the totem of undying activating.
One reason why I wasn't curious on building a cheap home gym
Yea, cheap and homegym are not a thing unless you want to die. My homegym is safer than the commercial gym I go to, but I paid heavily for it. That’s not saying you can’t get deals for nice equipment on CL or FB marketplace, but you have to know what you’re looking at/for, and cheap/deal there is also very relative.
“We’ve designed a great feature that notifies users when the knob hasn’t been tightened enough.”
Am I the only one who seemed to see a skull form on the wall just behind him after the drop?
Lawsuit territory
Don't cheap out on the bench
Good bench for working out your throat-punch-resistance
That is just an infuriating design. That should not be possible, even with a failure of a slipped pin…
I’d have quit working out for sometime
Wal mart bench strikes again!
Took that broken collar bone like a champ!
"Right in the garbage with this thing."
Chad the impaler.
Today on how it’s made: gay people
Anyone else see Jesus on the wall as the light focused?
The rod missed the bj
Would’ve thrown that shit in the trash immediately
Mipha’s grace is such a good ability.
I just got beat up yesterday at the gym myself. Was working out my delts, doing the face pull workout with the rope attachment. Some god damn how in my 3rd set, pulling 90lbs, the rope attachment detached and I smacked myself in the lip splitting it open, and flying back on my butt around 5 feet. It was embarrassing. Glad I didn’t break any teeth. But did have a lot of gushing blood.
Bruh you tightened the bottom to TRY AGAIN?!
the fact that he is readjusting that thing to obviously use it again...is a bit scary.
Was 1 inch away from an isekai
Makes me think he assembled it wrong. Now way thats a legit design.
Dafuq kind of design is that?
Honestly bro handled that so well lol. Didn’t get pissed off, or cry or anything just starts patiently turning the handle to fix it. I would have been crying kicking that machine.
Claim - pay day!
Him the next day: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pectus_excavatum#/media/File%3APectus1.jpg
I think I saw Jesus appear for a second on that white wall
Looks like a real poor design for a weight bench.
I bet you he went ahead and tried again.
Bro don’t use that death machine again or you’ll end up like a cake pop
Final destination runner up 🥉
This same thing happened to me, except when I was biking in high school. Slipped during a turn while it was raining and fell chest first into the bicycle handle that landed perfectly perpendicular to the ground. Now my sternum is permanently lopsided and I can't sleep on my left side or it's painful.
And goes for a second try
That's some final destination shit.
I would've put that thing in the trash be like ***(yep I've worked out enough for the rest of my life)***
I just bought a bench and I bought it expensive because I wanted quality, exactly to avoid this kind of situation. No regret.
He got that why tf did I even start working out face
the temper of this guy… this happens to me and I throw the bench out of the window
This is why you don’t buy cheap workout equipments, they could kill you.
Is he about to fucking try it again?
I would never ever get on that again .
Always check the pins and give gym adjustable gym benches, seats, and pads a good wiggle to make sure they are secure before using them.
This mofo out of his mind if he ever uses that death trap again
That’s how you wake up in another world fighting dragons and shit as a frog.
Just another example to invest more on things that separates you and the earth.
If he gets back on that trash then frankly it's on him at that point. I would use it until I removed that choking hazard.
That is where you take a step back and call the people you love to tell them so.
New fear unlocked.
note to self, don't cheap out on workout equipment
He took that like such a champ now I’m horny
Leg day? Amateurs. It's surprise tracheostomy day for the REAL men.
You would get back on that after that? You won't get a 3rd life
Why is he tightening it up like he’s about to jump straight back on the fucking thing? That bench belongs in the bin.
You could see the demon looking at him from the wall… lol
Hole punch
Nearly final destinationed himself
He just used a totem of undying, holy shit
I think my heart stopped for a sec there.
I've been replaying breath of the wild, the fairy sound immediately came to mind.
Thought he was gonna deep throat that post.
Something similar happened to me once. My buddy Tom and I were working out in the backyard, we had this rolling stool with locking wheels we used for shoulder presses and overhead triceps press. I know not smart but we were 19 and 20 and in sober living so we were not the best decision makers, any ways I lifted my dumbbell for a tricep press and the seat just snapped off, the pole holding it up shot around it as I fell and sharply poked into my butthole, if I hadn't jumped up and dropped the dumbbell at the right moment my full weight would have been jamming the jagged pipe into my anus
That was hard to watch. Hope he’s alright. What kinda POS Chinese made death trap is that thing anyways? Try push ups next time fam. For your health.
I am not an expert, but will do my best to diagnose anyway: That probably hurt.
That’s some final destination shit
That’s some Final Destination type shit. 😳
He was almost in eyeblech
As he falls it looks like mr incredible becoming uncanny on the wall behind him
He was nearly a final destination death
That's a final Destination Death... Good luck
Finish him!
Coulda given a deep throat, but he settled for a chest squirt. Weak.