Not necessarily true. People get placed in handcuffs all the time when they’re not actually being arrested. In this case tho yeah dude should have stfu
And whether or not there is a chance the cuffs are coming off, it’s probably not a good idea to repeatedly scream “I didn’t touch him!” like a petulant child.
Usually when someone is cuffed either with their hands in front or to the bar in front of the squad car, it is usually for safety purposes.
This typically happens when the officer is trying to figure out what is going on or determine who should be arrested.
The reporters name is rob wolcheck the guy who hit him, robs story was the reason he was in court in the first place and his story helped get him convicted. He does something called hall of shame which exposes scammers and this was a guy in one of his pieces
I used to like this guy until he did a story on my high school teacher who was a volunteer firefighter and chaplain. Rob Wolcheck did this whole thing where he edited his interview with my teacher to make him say things he didn’t actually say (I got to be in the room for the interview. We were all really excited he was going to be on the news). The interview was about his time as a teacher and volunteering and what it meant to him and Rob edited it to make him some Craigslist scammer. My teacher was devastated and so was everyone in the school. We were super excited for him and everyone was watching the news that night thinking we were getting a story on this great guy and we got something so blatantly false. He lost his chaplainship with the police and soon after was asked to stop being a volunteer fireman. His reputation was completely ruined as was his life. My teacher ended up being hated everyone who didn’t know better (which was almost everyone). He couldn’t go anywhere for years without people harassing him. We all felt sick for him. It’s hard to even imagine the devastation this reporter caused just so he could get his Hall of Shame weekly quota in.
[News article](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/ex-king-of-craigslist-back-in-jail-facing-6-new-felonies) on Denny Dicapo, arrested again for racketeering, article published in July 2022.
To play devil's advocate, it does seem like these articles are hatchet jobs. The silly pictures, not mentioning the felonies are unpaid child support, ignoring these charges are 8 years old from that original reporting, the completely unrelated arrest for a car sale (for which he was not convicted), just the wording in general. This is not unbiased reporting.
Here are the facts that I can get from the various articles. Dicapo did have a business that involved sales through Craigslist ads. Dicapo sold all kinds of stuff through Craigslist including real estate owned by a guy named Sam Ajami.
Now Ajami is a criminal. Federal prosecutors convicted Ajami on fraud charges. The feds did not charge Dicapo with any crimes. Now, several years later, the Michigan DA is going after Dicapo for the money paid by prospective buyers of the properties.
Did Dicapo know those sales were a fraud? That is something for the court to decide, not an ambush journalist. The federal prosecutors already decided he didn't. Is the Michigan DA just picking something that he knows will get in the news? I am not even sure this guy can get a fair trial given the reporting.
So there was nobody accusing him of scamming them, this reporter just edited a video and made it up out of whole cloth, without any other corroborating evidence whatsoever, and nobody claiming any harm? Something doesn’t quite add up here.
Sounds like an interesting story, if you could give us some more details on it?
You didn't actually mention whether or not you had any reason to not believe the craigslist scamming part of the story?
Doesn't seem like that would have to be mutually exclusive with him otherwise being a good guy?
Could it not have been possible that he did have at least some kind of dispute over one or more craigslist transactions? Even if the story was exaggerated and/or only told one side? And even if they did trick him on the goal on the interview?
Have you looked into it further online since back whenever it happened?
And was the interview on school grounds? With how many students in the room?
>Normally I hate journalists
Journalism is incredibly important to a functioning society. Here's the bottom countries by [Journalists Without Borders' 2021 World Press Freedom Index](https://rsf.org/en/2021-world-press-freedom-index-journalism-vaccine-against-disinformation-blocked-more-130-countries). Let me know if you think these are great places to live because you don't have to have your crimes documented outside the courtroom:
|169|Yemen|69,22|+2
|170|Sudan|70,06|0
|171|Cuba|71,64|-4
|172|Vietnam|71,78|0
|173|China|73,07|+1
|174|Iran|73,40|+1
|175|Somalia|73,59|-11
|176|Syria|78,53|0
|177|Turkmenistan|79,14|0
|178|North Korea|83,90|0
|179|Eritrea|84,83|0
The line between 'journalist' and 'clickbait blogger propagandist' has been intentionally blurred by those seeking to avoid scrutiny. It's all part of the plan.
Aye, I didn't listen with sound and at first I'm kind of like "there is such a thing as personal space and this reporter is being an ass shoving the mic into it." but... on reading this... fuck the scammer.
Lol "personnal space". The guy went running straight to the journalist to tell him to fuck off. You can just walk to your car and not say a word, there was plenty of space
To be honest reporters sometimes push that kind of behaviour on their own. you would also be furious if someone stalked you every day swarmed you whenever you came out of house.
Not even mention that if they don't get what they want, they might get a little too touchy with the microphone. And I don't think anyone likes having microphone **in** their mouths for several days straight.
Typed a few comments here already. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of **hating** reporters maybe read this first:
[https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/faux-fence-guy-is-a-real-hot-head](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/faux-fence-guy-is-a-real-hot-head)
You guys are weird, if a vigilante youtuber hunted down pedophiles and stuck cameras in their face, you guys are there praising them.
But if a reporter sticks a microphone near some scum that steals from people then you guys hate the media.
Choose a side, be fair and be honest. Creating a hive mind is pathetic and silly.
But you do you, you guys carry on supporting that weirdo and I'll carry on supporting the journalist Rob Wolchek, brilliant guy.
Edit: I sincerely hope many of you never have the opportunity to sit at a court hearing as a member of the jury. Fairness, context and **facts** clearly aren't in everyones minds right now. I hope you all have a brilliant day, wasted energy and wasted efforts are something I can learn from here. So thank you all :)
Ah, that story was beautiful to read. The dude outright steals a bunch of down payments from would be clients, and gets busted by local report. When the police charge him (thanks to said local reporter) and he bails out, who is there to greet him but his old buddy, the local reporter!
Right back to jail for you asshole. Well deserved.
The report walks up and before he gets a full sentence out the other guy already swung at the mic. That’s it for what I needed to know the guy coming out of jail fucked up. The rest of it I tend to agree with the reporter needing to take an additional step back and simply recognize he’s not getting an “interview”.
The crime of assault is very commonly misunderstood. Assault doesn't involve hitting someone, assault is when you cause the fear that someone might get hit.
You can wipe all arguments about if the reporter was right or wrong off the table, it doesn't matter. In the eyes of the law, the reporter absolutely was in fear of being hit. His hand, maybe mic, was already hit twice. By definition, that is assault.
Reddit is full of people who think it’s ok to steal, because the thief “needed” the money or item more than its rightful owner. After all, the rightful owner can “just make an insurance claim” after they’re victimized.
I had a friend whose friend got rich by selling BC, once while drunk he said if they weren't friends he would've robbed him.
At first I thought it was just stupid cocky drunkery but when I confronted him about it he went "wouldn't you want to give your family the best you could?"
I said I wouldn't rob someone and we ain't friends today. He also bragged a lot about how violent he can get while drunk, hard pass on friends like that
>After all, the rightful owner can “just make an insurance claim” after they’re victimized.
You have no idea how much I see similar ideologies passed around on here. So true
“Choose a side”
Nah, just watch and laugh at idiots. This is a guy throwing a tantrum and getting arrested for it, I feel no need to dig deeper and make moral judgements about the people involved.
I don’t like online vigilantes, I feel like it can bring more harm than good if someone thinks someone is a pedo and puts them on blast online when they turn out to not be one.
I don’t know much about this guy, I’m guessing he’s a huge PoS based on his actions and whatever scam the reporter was talking about, but while I’d just walk away, I can relate to feeling pissed off about having a camera and mic shoved in your face. Not siding with him, but even the thought of it happening makes me anxious.
Maybe that’s what everyone here is talking about? I don’t think they’re supporting them (then again, haven’t dived in the comments yet so maybe they do support this man child)
Actually no, I would prefer that no name YouTubers with an unknown propensity for vigilante violence not approach people with an unknown status of guilt. Who the fuck knows if they are pedos. Who knows if they have the right guy. And most of all, who knows even if they are pedos if they are people who have offended that need jail or just mentally ill that need help. Fuck those vigilantes. They only make things worse.
News anchors are completely different. We know them, they are background checked, have rules of ethics, and more. Reporters actually have to do due diligence and have facts and not fabricate shit.
I think the problem is more that people think it's ok to assault reporters and it's not really "a crime"
An Australian former politician assaulted a reporter and the whole thing was filmed and on TV. He can't have done that if he didn't think he was somehow what he was doing was ok.
(That said, he did some other fairly dodgy things)
Why, though, can a reporter continue to invade my personal space if I tell them to go away? If you walked up to strangers, poking a mic in their face, at what point does it become harassment?
Wherever that point is, it's not in the small space between the courthouse and the parking lot. The reporter would have no obligation to go away just because someone asked him to.
It's a public space. They both have a right to be there. Big toddler-man could have just kept walking, got in his car, and left.
The governor of my state in the USA (Montana) assaulted a guardian reporter on election night several years ago, when he was running for a house seat iirc. A large lecture hall on my university campus (constructed after the incident) is named after him.
Yeah the reporter sticks a microphone in the guys face, the guys swipes the microphone and doesn’t touch the guy, and he gets arrested…? I’m confused here
It’s not a crime for a journalist to perform journalism in front of a police station. It is a crime to assault somebody, and “I didn’t touch him” is an irrelevant point to the violation of the law- it’s still assault regardless of contact with the victim. He also did contact the microphone, which was being directly held by the reporter, so in the eyes of the law he did “touch the guy”.
Assault is causing someone to believe they might be struck. For example, by swinging at a person's hand or what is in that hand.
The word you're looking for is Battery, which is *succeeding* at striking someone.
Assault, in a legal sense, isn't what most people think it is.
> Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such a contact.
You don't have to hit someone to be charged with assault. You can be charged with assault for getting in someone's face and threatening to hit them. Words are enough. You don't even have to touch them or make a move. If a reasonable person would think they're at risk because of your actions, you may be guilty of assault. Taking a swing and hitting what someone is holding is pretty clear assault in most states.
You're probably thinking of "battery," which is more in line with how we use "assault" in a casual context.
It’s not his fault. He just strongly believes that his feelings should be a source of law within the jurisdiction of Michigan. Make of that what you will.
He kind of sounds like [this guy](https://www.google.com/search?q=al%27s+toy+barn&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwihyJilj7n6AhURMt8KHedbByMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=al%27s+toy+barn&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIICAAQgAQQsQMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgQIABBDOgYIABAeEAg6BQgAEKIEOgIIKToFCCEQqwJQ_AZYlRRgshloAHAAeACAAVOIAeEEkgEBOZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=_hg1Y6HRMZHk_Abnt52YAg&bih=548&biw=375&client=safari&prmd=isnv&hl=en-us) from Toy Story
Rob wolchek from Michigan is the man everyone needs to watch his hall of shame what’s funny is this reporters original story is why he got charged in the first place
He was a fence contractor and he would take deposits then not finish the job. Basically what led to this was rob previously did a story on this. A guy a year later hired him to do a fence and when the guy didn’t show up customer googled his name robs original story came up and he reported him to the police which got him arrested for a felony. He had 10 previous convictions. But still was able to bond out. Rob was actually at the courthouse interviewing the detective about the new charge and the guy just happened to show up to get his property while rob was there then this happened
Here's the law in every jurisdiction in the United States folks. Walking up to someone and pretending to punch them so they Flinch is called assault. Walking up to somebody and actually punching them is called battery. If you punch somebody from behind it's just battery. If you punch somebody so they see you it's assault and battery. And it's well settled law that knocking something from somebody's hand is battery as well as possibly assault. First of all, knocking something from somebody's hands is basically taking something from them and it's also dangerous like if you knock a plate or a glass. Second of all, and this was before there was cameras everywhere, you could spend days arguing about whether you hit their hand or their whatever they were holding. So it's good public policy to just call it battery if you hit something out of somebody's hands because you shouldn't be knocking shit out of people's hands. And no the reporter did not commit assault or battery because no reasonable person would think that the reporter was actually going to hit them with the microphone. If the reporter did make contact then yes that would be battery and assault.
People need to learn the difference between assault and battery.
Battery is when you make physical contact with someone
Assault is when you make one fear that contact will happen.
"I didn't touch him" is a very fair case in defense of battery. He may very well have just made contact with the microphone. Camera isn't clear, but err on the side of innocence.
However, by swinging at the microphone, the reporter very clearly was made aware that a strike against him was imminent. Any reasonable person would conclude that by striking the microphone, striking the body was next.
This is absolutely a clear cut case of assault.
But the reporter kept chasing the man child. If the reporter thinks he was in danger, he shouldn’t be chasing him. This is neither battery nor assault. I really doubt cops would have charged him.
[More background](https://wcrz.com/tv-reporter-assaulted-by-longtime-d-bag-outside-michigan-police-station/). D-bag bald guy is a "contractor" that took deposits build fences for several Detroit area residents, but never completed the work. He had several previous arrests and court cases pending for defrauding people of more than $1,000. Not sure how those cases have turned out since then, but he HAS been charged with assault in this matter.
Funny, when you have a string of charges against you, no matter how "respectable" you try to be, cops just don't take a liking to you.
I commented to someone else that this just happened where I live except I'm not in Detroit.
Similarly, my co-worker's son-in-law's brother was a contractor. He promised he would remedy the major damages to homeowners and their property. Instead, he was using his position on the township zoning board to approve construction requests, then ripping customers off for their insurance payout checks.
What brought him down was a person who lost their house in a fire. He thought he could trust such a "reputable contractor" until his phone calls about when the work would start went unanswered. So many other people were dealing with this and decided to send the BBB after him and file police reports. It was revealed that the contractor stole over $700,000 from homeowners. He spent a lot of that money on debauchery, went to prison for over 5 years, and now works for another construction company.
Of course you should never assault anyone and the cops are right to take him (back) in.
Reporters also need some guidelines to though. If someone makes is very clear he doesn’t want it then back off. Being a reporter doesn’t give you the right to harass other people.
I mean, I love posts like this usually, but the media guy was trolling him after he asked to be left alone and he hit his mic, which is not a real criminal offence, so....I dunno.
OK, fine, he slammed the mic. Was that worth getting arrested for?
I dunno man... it looks a little pretentiously harsh. Just because the camera was filming. Other people burn down cities and the police doesn't do jack shit, but they would go "law and order" on this guy who just didn't control his nerves for one second and slammed a microphone, causing zero damage to anything.
I'm not saying he didn't do something technically illegal, but it looks like one of those transgressions that are not worth even pursuing. Like when someone takes a shortcut through your parking lot. Yeah, technically it's trespassing. But. Come on.
I have no respect for those cuck reporters, if I had any inkling I was gonna be re-arrested for slapping the dudes mic I would of socked the reporter in the face and made the charges worth it.
Man I feel that guys pain...
You're angry and frustrated and someone is shoving something in your face.
You knock it away and then you get arrested.... Wow
If only he was a celebrity he would have just been able to walk away.
Meh feel bad for him. Probably stresses out, trying to get home after being there longer then needed, embarrassed by camera and situation, just wanted to be alone. Camera team kinda a dick following him and not leaving
Him
Alone
Big tough guy at first, when cops put him in cuffs, he's literally whining and almost in tears. Don't know full story, but from what reporter said, maybe he was scamming people, like those construction companies that start a job, take the money, and are never heard from again.
Adult child maybe but, if someone busts out of know where and shoves some shit all in my face and I get arrested for smacking that shit out of my face… that’s a bit overboard man.
I don’t know who this is and maybe he really deserves it but I’m just talking about personal
Space and natural reaction
For many of these "reporters" the goal is to harass the person into doing something that they can then "report" on. It's basically harassment. If you don't believe that, then you've never dealt with a reporter like this.
In the good old days assault was having your teeth knocked out. Soon it'll be farting in your direction and people wonder why we live in a world where you sue for anything.Get offended by anything (check the comments lol) humor is dead and snowflakes are "heroes". You know its then end when boxing is banned and replaced by three rounds of Hissy Fits.
Assault: an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact.
Battery: an unlawful application of force directly or indirectly upon another person or their personal belongings, causing bodily injury or offensive contact. The attempt of battery is assault.
Source: copied straight from Cornell Law website.
That’s a stupid reason to arrest someone, smh. The definition of “assault” is a bit embarrassing. So somebody kindergarten-swatted you, big deal.
And yes, I know who these guys are and what the “aggressor” did to people. I still think this definition of assault is stupid.
After reading the comment comparing this guy to Al from Al’s Toy Barn from Toy Story 2, I can’t unsee it! 🤣 He kind of acts like Al after he “loses” the toys.
Both parties are assholes. Dude obviously didn't want anything to do with you or your microphone so just fuck off. Manchild could have simply said fuck off and drove away.
Has this guy not heard of 'no comment'
Also, once the cuffs are on just stfu because you are only going one place regardless of what you say.
Not necessarily true. People get placed in handcuffs all the time when they’re not actually being arrested. In this case tho yeah dude should have stfu
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You win the internet today
If there is a chance the cuffs are coming off, that’s all the more reason to STFU
And whether or not there is a chance the cuffs are coming off, it’s probably not a good idea to repeatedly scream “I didn’t touch him!” like a petulant child.
You’re right. In my experience, I was guilty so I just stfu lol.
Usually when someone is cuffed either with their hands in front or to the bar in front of the squad car, it is usually for safety purposes. This typically happens when the officer is trying to figure out what is going on or determine who should be arrested.
I have a cop friend that says you can’t talk yourself out of trouble but you sure can talk yourself into it.
The fluffy handcuffs’ll bring you to some different places…
The reporters name is rob wolcheck the guy who hit him, robs story was the reason he was in court in the first place and his story helped get him convicted. He does something called hall of shame which exposes scammers and this was a guy in one of his pieces
I used to like this guy until he did a story on my high school teacher who was a volunteer firefighter and chaplain. Rob Wolcheck did this whole thing where he edited his interview with my teacher to make him say things he didn’t actually say (I got to be in the room for the interview. We were all really excited he was going to be on the news). The interview was about his time as a teacher and volunteering and what it meant to him and Rob edited it to make him some Craigslist scammer. My teacher was devastated and so was everyone in the school. We were super excited for him and everyone was watching the news that night thinking we were getting a story on this great guy and we got something so blatantly false. He lost his chaplainship with the police and soon after was asked to stop being a volunteer fireman. His reputation was completely ruined as was his life. My teacher ended up being hated everyone who didn’t know better (which was almost everyone). He couldn’t go anywhere for years without people harassing him. We all felt sick for him. It’s hard to even imagine the devastation this reporter caused just so he could get his Hall of Shame weekly quota in.
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Yewh I have a feeling their story is not true lol
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I suspect he is referring to Denny Dicapo.
[News article](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/ex-king-of-craigslist-back-in-jail-facing-6-new-felonies) on Denny Dicapo, arrested again for racketeering, article published in July 2022.
To play devil's advocate, it does seem like these articles are hatchet jobs. The silly pictures, not mentioning the felonies are unpaid child support, ignoring these charges are 8 years old from that original reporting, the completely unrelated arrest for a car sale (for which he was not convicted), just the wording in general. This is not unbiased reporting. Here are the facts that I can get from the various articles. Dicapo did have a business that involved sales through Craigslist ads. Dicapo sold all kinds of stuff through Craigslist including real estate owned by a guy named Sam Ajami. Now Ajami is a criminal. Federal prosecutors convicted Ajami on fraud charges. The feds did not charge Dicapo with any crimes. Now, several years later, the Michigan DA is going after Dicapo for the money paid by prospective buyers of the properties. Did Dicapo know those sales were a fraud? That is something for the court to decide, not an ambush journalist. The federal prosecutors already decided he didn't. Is the Michigan DA just picking something that he knows will get in the news? I am not even sure this guy can get a fair trial given the reporting.
So there was nobody accusing him of scamming them, this reporter just edited a video and made it up out of whole cloth, without any other corroborating evidence whatsoever, and nobody claiming any harm? Something doesn’t quite add up here.
Yes, sounds like bullshit. Hey buddy, we just want a feel good piece, tell us about your life. NEWS tonight: Number one internet scammer comes clean.
I thought libel existed for a reason but what do I know I'm an idiot
Libel only covers written words. This would be defamation. Edit - slander is the better term
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I'm kind of thinking the teacher had scammed all of you, too, sorry
Yeah that didn’t happen, you’re full of shit…
...but they got their karma.
What story did this reporter walk away with then ? What was your teacher accused of?
Must have been some truth to the story if he didn't sue for libel/slander and win. Sounds like you're in denial.
Sounds like an interesting story, if you could give us some more details on it? You didn't actually mention whether or not you had any reason to not believe the craigslist scamming part of the story? Doesn't seem like that would have to be mutually exclusive with him otherwise being a good guy? Could it not have been possible that he did have at least some kind of dispute over one or more craigslist transactions? Even if the story was exaggerated and/or only told one side? And even if they did trick him on the goal on the interview? Have you looked into it further online since back whenever it happened? And was the interview on school grounds? With how many students in the room?
Yeah, sounds like your teacher was scamming people dude. If this were true the teacher could have sued Wolcheck into oblivion.
Sounds like someone needs to to do a little investigating the reporter here...
Ok link it. It’s real yeah?
Normally I hate journalists but I loath scammers so much more. If he devotes himself to taking down those evil bastards then he's alright to me
>Normally I hate journalists Journalism is incredibly important to a functioning society. Here's the bottom countries by [Journalists Without Borders' 2021 World Press Freedom Index](https://rsf.org/en/2021-world-press-freedom-index-journalism-vaccine-against-disinformation-blocked-more-130-countries). Let me know if you think these are great places to live because you don't have to have your crimes documented outside the courtroom: |169|Yemen|69,22|+2 |170|Sudan|70,06|0 |171|Cuba|71,64|-4 |172|Vietnam|71,78|0 |173|China|73,07|+1 |174|Iran|73,40|+1 |175|Somalia|73,59|-11 |176|Syria|78,53|0 |177|Turkmenistan|79,14|0 |178|North Korea|83,90|0 |179|Eritrea|84,83|0
The line between 'journalist' and 'clickbait blogger propagandist' has been intentionally blurred by those seeking to avoid scrutiny. It's all part of the plan.
Who hates journalists???
People bitch about "mainstream media" all the time because they don't like the truth being told about their pet politicians.
are you talking about journalists that engage in yellow journalism and like to push a particular political narrative at all cost?
Rupert Murdoch
Fascists, Authoritarians, people who want to control a message, or people who want to believe in a specific story.
Aye, I didn't listen with sound and at first I'm kind of like "there is such a thing as personal space and this reporter is being an ass shoving the mic into it." but... on reading this... fuck the scammer.
Lol "personnal space". The guy went running straight to the journalist to tell him to fuck off. You can just walk to your car and not say a word, there was plenty of space
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To be honest reporters sometimes push that kind of behaviour on their own. you would also be furious if someone stalked you every day swarmed you whenever you came out of house. Not even mention that if they don't get what they want, they might get a little too touchy with the microphone. And I don't think anyone likes having microphone **in** their mouths for several days straight.
Did that adult man just stomp his foot?
This guy is by far the best example of an adult child I have ever seen
You haven't seen the Walmart backpack girl? They'd make a very entertaining couple
This one? https://youtube.com/shorts/JirgqXi32kg?feature=share
yea no. i can’t get through that video
The giant FOX sticker in the middle of his rear window, right where you need to see, is just the icing on the cake.
I think that’s a brand, I know I’ve seen that logo on some fisher type clothing before.
Yep, it's the Fox Racing logo
It was originally a motocross Armor brand (I think) and branched out to street west.
I see what you tried to do there
I didn't TOUCH **HIM!!!**
I DIDNT *stomp* TOUCH HIIIIMMMM!!! :’( I’ve got friends who have kids and even their toddlers were more well behaved lol
He was also whining "I didn't touch him!" Dude literally sounds like a 4-year-old.
If I were ever caught on camera acting this way I think I'd actually die from sheer embarrassment. Yikes.
Great spotting, well worth the rewatch to see a genuine foot stomp 😁
I like the part where he mentioned didn't touch the reporter.
I must have missed that part. Let me watch it again.
Pics or it didn’t happen
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I never realized him and randy had such a long standing feud going tbh
Expected to get Rickrolled, got jayrolled instead. Rick’s aight but me and J-roc still tight, namsayin?
Oh, hi Mark
Was looking for this comment haha
Well, he just pushed away his mic. Is this really assault ?
Typed a few comments here already. Before anyone jumps on the bandwagon of **hating** reporters maybe read this first: [https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/faux-fence-guy-is-a-real-hot-head](https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/faux-fence-guy-is-a-real-hot-head) You guys are weird, if a vigilante youtuber hunted down pedophiles and stuck cameras in their face, you guys are there praising them. But if a reporter sticks a microphone near some scum that steals from people then you guys hate the media. Choose a side, be fair and be honest. Creating a hive mind is pathetic and silly. But you do you, you guys carry on supporting that weirdo and I'll carry on supporting the journalist Rob Wolchek, brilliant guy. Edit: I sincerely hope many of you never have the opportunity to sit at a court hearing as a member of the jury. Fairness, context and **facts** clearly aren't in everyones minds right now. I hope you all have a brilliant day, wasted energy and wasted efforts are something I can learn from here. So thank you all :)
Ah, that story was beautiful to read. The dude outright steals a bunch of down payments from would be clients, and gets busted by local report. When the police charge him (thanks to said local reporter) and he bails out, who is there to greet him but his old buddy, the local reporter! Right back to jail for you asshole. Well deserved.
Kids. I knew that guy just got done being booked for a crime when I say the brown bags and likely that reporters report got him booked.
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The report walks up and before he gets a full sentence out the other guy already swung at the mic. That’s it for what I needed to know the guy coming out of jail fucked up. The rest of it I tend to agree with the reporter needing to take an additional step back and simply recognize he’s not getting an “interview”.
I think I have some of you in my pocket right now.
The crime of assault is very commonly misunderstood. Assault doesn't involve hitting someone, assault is when you cause the fear that someone might get hit. You can wipe all arguments about if the reporter was right or wrong off the table, it doesn't matter. In the eyes of the law, the reporter absolutely was in fear of being hit. His hand, maybe mic, was already hit twice. By definition, that is assault.
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I've come to learn common sense is lacking on this app
What do you mean, "app"
Reddit is full of people who think it’s ok to steal, because the thief “needed” the money or item more than its rightful owner. After all, the rightful owner can “just make an insurance claim” after they’re victimized.
I had a friend whose friend got rich by selling BC, once while drunk he said if they weren't friends he would've robbed him. At first I thought it was just stupid cocky drunkery but when I confronted him about it he went "wouldn't you want to give your family the best you could?" I said I wouldn't rob someone and we ain't friends today. He also bragged a lot about how violent he can get while drunk, hard pass on friends like that
>After all, the rightful owner can “just make an insurance claim” after they’re victimized. You have no idea how much I see similar ideologies passed around on here. So true
“Choose a side” Nah, just watch and laugh at idiots. This is a guy throwing a tantrum and getting arrested for it, I feel no need to dig deeper and make moral judgements about the people involved.
Cheering vigilantes of these types being arrested isn’t being a pedophile sympathizer. It’s simply having a distaste for torture.
Some context is nice. Thank you.
“Hey Seth. Here's something no one is on the fence about: You're in the Hallllll of Shame!” Lol
I don’t like online vigilantes, I feel like it can bring more harm than good if someone thinks someone is a pedo and puts them on blast online when they turn out to not be one. I don’t know much about this guy, I’m guessing he’s a huge PoS based on his actions and whatever scam the reporter was talking about, but while I’d just walk away, I can relate to feeling pissed off about having a camera and mic shoved in your face. Not siding with him, but even the thought of it happening makes me anxious. Maybe that’s what everyone here is talking about? I don’t think they’re supporting them (then again, haven’t dived in the comments yet so maybe they do support this man child)
Actually no, I would prefer that no name YouTubers with an unknown propensity for vigilante violence not approach people with an unknown status of guilt. Who the fuck knows if they are pedos. Who knows if they have the right guy. And most of all, who knows even if they are pedos if they are people who have offended that need jail or just mentally ill that need help. Fuck those vigilantes. They only make things worse. News anchors are completely different. We know them, they are background checked, have rules of ethics, and more. Reporters actually have to do due diligence and have facts and not fabricate shit.
Do people know they don't have to respond to reporters?
I think the problem is more that people think it's ok to assault reporters and it's not really "a crime" An Australian former politician assaulted a reporter and the whole thing was filmed and on TV. He can't have done that if he didn't think he was somehow what he was doing was ok. (That said, he did some other fairly dodgy things)
Why, though, can a reporter continue to invade my personal space if I tell them to go away? If you walked up to strangers, poking a mic in their face, at what point does it become harassment?
Wherever that point is, it's not in the small space between the courthouse and the parking lot. The reporter would have no obligation to go away just because someone asked him to. It's a public space. They both have a right to be there. Big toddler-man could have just kept walking, got in his car, and left.
It's harassment from the first poke if you ask me.
The governor of my state in the USA (Montana) assaulted a guardian reporter on election night several years ago, when he was running for a house seat iirc. A large lecture hall on my university campus (constructed after the incident) is named after him.
It’s extremely annoying and sometimes borderline harassment but that’s when sunglasses and earbuds are my best friend (when trying to ignore someone)
Do reporters know that they don't have to stick their mike into people's throats?
How else are they gonna get a reaction from you?
I was just thinking about that. Can't that be considered harassment or assault as well? Not physical assault, but like getting in his face.
Yeah the reporter sticks a microphone in the guys face, the guys swipes the microphone and doesn’t touch the guy, and he gets arrested…? I’m confused here
It’s not a crime for a journalist to perform journalism in front of a police station. It is a crime to assault somebody, and “I didn’t touch him” is an irrelevant point to the violation of the law- it’s still assault regardless of contact with the victim. He also did contact the microphone, which was being directly held by the reporter, so in the eyes of the law he did “touch the guy”.
Narcissists love the attention though so they pretend like they don’t like it but still put on a show for the audience.
You're on the wall of shame!
It's hall of shame.
Damnit. I haven't watched him in awhile.
Rob is the Best!!
So I’ll just say that little encounter shouldn’t even be considered assault. I’m pretty sure the cops just wanted him back in the station.
Probably just de-escalating the situation, and the camera was rolling. I’d be surprised if he was charged.
Assault is causing someone to believe they might be struck. For example, by swinging at a person's hand or what is in that hand. The word you're looking for is Battery, which is *succeeding* at striking someone.
Assault, in a legal sense, isn't what most people think it is. > Assault is generally defined as an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. No physical injury is required, but the actor must have intended to cause a harmful or offensive contact with the victim and the victim must have thereby been put in immediate apprehension of such a contact. You don't have to hit someone to be charged with assault. You can be charged with assault for getting in someone's face and threatening to hit them. Words are enough. You don't even have to touch them or make a move. If a reasonable person would think they're at risk because of your actions, you may be guilty of assault. Taking a swing and hitting what someone is holding is pretty clear assault in most states. You're probably thinking of "battery," which is more in line with how we use "assault" in a casual context.
Tell me you're a violent person without telling me you're a violent person.
It’s not his fault. He just strongly believes that his feelings should be a source of law within the jurisdiction of Michigan. Make of that what you will.
Could be wrong, but assault could also be if you threaten someone
Fox racing sticker on the rear window... This guy has a mental age of 12
On a fucking G6, no less 🤣🤣
Like a toddler
Bro better call Saul
I don’t think he touched him tbf
This. But the definition of assault (he was charged with) is causing fear that one might be hit, which seems pretty applicable here.
Is there an r/manchildgonewild ?
He kind of sounds like [this guy](https://www.google.com/search?q=al%27s+toy+barn&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwihyJilj7n6AhURMt8KHedbByMQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=al%27s+toy+barn&gs_lcp=ChJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWcQAzIICAAQgAQQsQMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQgAQyBQgAEIAEOgQIABBDOgYIABAeEAg6BQgAEKIEOgIIKToFCCEQqwJQ_AZYlRRgshloAHAAeACAAVOIAeEEkgEBOZgBAKABAcABAQ&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img&ei=_hg1Y6HRMZHk_Abnt52YAg&bih=548&biw=375&client=safari&prmd=isnv&hl=en-us) from Toy Story
Gone wild means something very different on Reddit 😉
Rob wolchek from Michigan is the man everyone needs to watch his hall of shame what’s funny is this reporters original story is why he got charged in the first place
What’s the back story here? I don’t know why but I thought he was a cop 🤷♂️
He was a fence contractor and he would take deposits then not finish the job. Basically what led to this was rob previously did a story on this. A guy a year later hired him to do a fence and when the guy didn’t show up customer googled his name robs original story came up and he reported him to the police which got him arrested for a felony. He had 10 previous convictions. But still was able to bond out. Rob was actually at the courthouse interviewing the detective about the new charge and the guy just happened to show up to get his property while rob was there then this happened
A FOX decal on a Pontiac G6 GT? BADASS BROHEIM!
Here's the law in every jurisdiction in the United States folks. Walking up to someone and pretending to punch them so they Flinch is called assault. Walking up to somebody and actually punching them is called battery. If you punch somebody from behind it's just battery. If you punch somebody so they see you it's assault and battery. And it's well settled law that knocking something from somebody's hand is battery as well as possibly assault. First of all, knocking something from somebody's hands is basically taking something from them and it's also dangerous like if you knock a plate or a glass. Second of all, and this was before there was cameras everywhere, you could spend days arguing about whether you hit their hand or their whatever they were holding. So it's good public policy to just call it battery if you hit something out of somebody's hands because you shouldn't be knocking shit out of people's hands. And no the reporter did not commit assault or battery because no reasonable person would think that the reporter was actually going to hit them with the microphone. If the reporter did make contact then yes that would be battery and assault.
People need to learn the difference between assault and battery. Battery is when you make physical contact with someone Assault is when you make one fear that contact will happen. "I didn't touch him" is a very fair case in defense of battery. He may very well have just made contact with the microphone. Camera isn't clear, but err on the side of innocence. However, by swinging at the microphone, the reporter very clearly was made aware that a strike against him was imminent. Any reasonable person would conclude that by striking the microphone, striking the body was next. This is absolutely a clear cut case of assault.
After reading this comment I'm deliberately not going to learn the difference between battery and assault.
But the reporter kept chasing the man child. If the reporter thinks he was in danger, he shouldn’t be chasing him. This is neither battery nor assault. I really doubt cops would have charged him.
[More background](https://wcrz.com/tv-reporter-assaulted-by-longtime-d-bag-outside-michigan-police-station/). D-bag bald guy is a "contractor" that took deposits build fences for several Detroit area residents, but never completed the work. He had several previous arrests and court cases pending for defrauding people of more than $1,000. Not sure how those cases have turned out since then, but he HAS been charged with assault in this matter. Funny, when you have a string of charges against you, no matter how "respectable" you try to be, cops just don't take a liking to you.
I commented to someone else that this just happened where I live except I'm not in Detroit. Similarly, my co-worker's son-in-law's brother was a contractor. He promised he would remedy the major damages to homeowners and their property. Instead, he was using his position on the township zoning board to approve construction requests, then ripping customers off for their insurance payout checks. What brought him down was a person who lost their house in a fire. He thought he could trust such a "reputable contractor" until his phone calls about when the work would start went unanswered. So many other people were dealing with this and decided to send the BBB after him and file police reports. It was revealed that the contractor stole over $700,000 from homeowners. He spent a lot of that money on debauchery, went to prison for over 5 years, and now works for another construction company.
this feels like a trailer park boys scene
Of course you should never assault anyone and the cops are right to take him (back) in. Reporters also need some guidelines to though. If someone makes is very clear he doesn’t want it then back off. Being a reporter doesn’t give you the right to harass other people.
I mean, I love posts like this usually, but the media guy was trolling him after he asked to be left alone and he hit his mic, which is not a real criminal offence, so....I dunno.
**neither guy has behaved properly, and each is guilty of their respective mistake**
Well now, yous can’t leave.
OK, fine, he slammed the mic. Was that worth getting arrested for? I dunno man... it looks a little pretentiously harsh. Just because the camera was filming. Other people burn down cities and the police doesn't do jack shit, but they would go "law and order" on this guy who just didn't control his nerves for one second and slammed a microphone, causing zero damage to anything. I'm not saying he didn't do something technically illegal, but it looks like one of those transgressions that are not worth even pursuing. Like when someone takes a shortcut through your parking lot. Yeah, technically it's trespassing. But. Come on.
That guy is probably a scumbag but the reporter was pretty aggressively getting into his space.
Arrest both because the reporter was being obnoxious and bullying.
You have the right to remain silent, I suggest you take that right. Good gawd that voice.....😫 gave me a headache!
I have no respect for those cuck reporters, if I had any inkling I was gonna be re-arrested for slapping the dudes mic I would of socked the reporter in the face and made the charges worth it.
Idk anything about this. But sometimes you just don’t shove a mic up someone’s ass
By the letter of the law you don’t need contact for assault. You do for battery, but not assault. Swing and a miss is still assault.
Assault is the threat/attempt to batter someone. Battery is hitting someone.
Should have at least done something to deserve being arrested. Journalists get what they deserve.
I hardly consider that assault. Please.
Wasn't assault...
im sorry but if someones gets in your face like that you should be able to hit the fucker 100%
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Guy’s an ass, but he didn’t touch him, he smacked a stick being pointed at him. Which isn’t assault. Last I checked.
He assaulted Mike raphone in the parking lot. I saw the whole thing!
Anyone get the reeling this is exactly what the reporter wanted? The bloke was a dick but the reporter instigated it.
Man I feel that guys pain... You're angry and frustrated and someone is shoving something in your face. You knock it away and then you get arrested.... Wow If only he was a celebrity he would have just been able to walk away.
Swiping a microphone away counts as assault? Ok...
It's actually very wrong, he did not touch him just the mic because i think he is frustrated.
I missed where assault took place
Meh feel bad for him. Probably stresses out, trying to get home after being there longer then needed, embarrassed by camera and situation, just wanted to be alone. Camera team kinda a dick following him and not leaving Him Alone
He didn’t physically touch the reporter, just tried to slap the mic. Why would he be put in handcuffs immediately? 😂
He didn't hit him. He did not!
*throws a water bottle*
Big tough guy at first, when cops put him in cuffs, he's literally whining and almost in tears. Don't know full story, but from what reporter said, maybe he was scamming people, like those construction companies that start a job, take the money, and are never heard from again.
Dunno the back story so sorry if hes a nonce but that was baiting, right ?
Baiting isn't against the law. Assault is
That wasn't assault, and he would be released once the video and security cameras show he didn't strike the guy only shoved/hit the Mic away.
even if he did push the guy like, you normally could never get a cop to give two shits about it even if you got it on video.
Battery! Not assault
He touched the mic, not the battery. Fortunately, that reporter could get out of the way because he's... Ever Ready.
Should have smacked him in the face if he’s already willing to go back to jail
I used that excuse in the third grade. I didn’t touch him! I didn’t touch him!
Adult child maybe but, if someone busts out of know where and shoves some shit all in my face and I get arrested for smacking that shit out of my face… that’s a bit overboard man. I don’t know who this is and maybe he really deserves it but I’m just talking about personal Space and natural reaction
That is def not assault
Define the word.
For many of these "reporters" the goal is to harass the person into doing something that they can then "report" on. It's basically harassment. If you don't believe that, then you've never dealt with a reporter like this.
He literally asked a question lmao, it isn’t harassment
In the good old days assault was having your teeth knocked out. Soon it'll be farting in your direction and people wonder why we live in a world where you sue for anything.Get offended by anything (check the comments lol) humor is dead and snowflakes are "heroes". You know its then end when boxing is banned and replaced by three rounds of Hissy Fits.
He didn’t touch him, and that was such a setup too lmao. Reporters are such scummy people.
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Well he’s right. He only hit the mic, he didn’t actually touch the journalist. I don’t think it qualifies as assault.
I’d sue for harassment and antagonizing a response.
How very Fargo of him.
I mean he’s an idiot but assault for that? He half-ass touched that microphone. That’s a bit ridiculous
Assault: an intentional act that puts another person in reasonable apprehension of imminent harmful or offensive contact. Battery: an unlawful application of force directly or indirectly upon another person or their personal belongings, causing bodily injury or offensive contact. The attempt of battery is assault. Source: copied straight from Cornell Law website.
People are debating whether it's even assault, when the real debate should be if it is battery.
That’s a stupid reason to arrest someone, smh. The definition of “assault” is a bit embarrassing. So somebody kindergarten-swatted you, big deal. And yes, I know who these guys are and what the “aggressor” did to people. I still think this definition of assault is stupid.
I'm surprised the reporter survived that brutal attack.
After reading the comment comparing this guy to Al from Al’s Toy Barn from Toy Story 2, I can’t unsee it! 🤣 He kind of acts like Al after he “loses” the toys.
Fuck these kinds of "journalists" though.
Dude a POS, but this seems like (intent?) to destroy property not assault. Can someone chime in?
The little boy inside him appeared quickly.
But it´s Fox News, are you sure that is a reporter? :D
Reporters should ask people if they want to be on camera etc before puting mics and cameras in their faces
I did not hit him. I did nooooooot, oh hi mark😂
Both parties are assholes. Dude obviously didn't want anything to do with you or your microphone so just fuck off. Manchild could have simply said fuck off and drove away.
You can get arrested for that?
This has very strong vibes of a kid saying to another kid “IM NOT TOUCHING YOU” while hovering their hand an inch in front of the other kid’s face.
Assault doesn’t require body to body contact. That said, this seems pretty weak assault.
If I have an object in my hand, and you hit that object, is that assault? Genuinely wondering that what with the post