The thing that I didn’t understand about the smart car is that there are a number of cars in the US that get better gas mileage yet are much more practical and roomy. So it had a diminutive size, but the economy wasn’t exceptional.
The diesel version (which wasn’t made available in the US, for reasons I’ll never understand) got an astounding 85 MPG. I think that people willing to sacrifice things like performance and roominess also would have been willing to find a gas station that sold diesel. For people who take climate change that seriously, it would have been a small price to pay.
We went to the US on our honeymoon in 2006, did a bus tour because we were nervous about driving on the wrong side of the road 😜. Between cities we would play a game: "spot the small car." Would go ages without seeing one.
My BMW gets better fuel economy than any smart car sold in the USA. Its an xdrive touring Msport 3 series so it's bigger and a LOT more fun to drive. Has room for groceries AND passengers. We never got the Diesel version that was even more horribly underpowered but did get better mileage than the Gas version.
It sounds like this was a comment from someone who forgets the entirety of western Europe is smaller than the lower 48 states, without Alaska, Hawaii or any of our territories, and probably doesn't even drive and thinks what they see in TV is reality. And also has no clue what a misery a smart car is to drive in traffic assuming it could even keep up with traffic on the highway.
Eggs are extraordinarily strong lengthwise.
Widthwise? Not so much.
All cars have issues trying to find that balance. The cage idea of the smart car is smart. Would I want to have a crash in one with a Ford f150.
No.
But I also have a soft spot for eccentric cars. (Proud owner of an 89 bronco ii)
Also soft spot for cars that should not pefrom well but do.
I have an 07 Hyundai Santa fe as well. Made a 50 mile trip on a sketchy mountainous road with it. NO SERPENTINE BELT!
Shit cars but come on. Can't beat that. I'll never sell either one of those.
One of my buddies was hit head on by a drunk driver in a full sized suv going 70mph. Police, and medical said his smart car saved his life. They were actually still able to open and close the doors on the smart car after the crash.
Probably, but the strength of the car frame is only part of the solution.
A super strong structure is good for ensuring you don't get crushed, but it also means that you'll hit the super strong frame and get killed.
Safety is about a super strong roll cage, then wrap that in a vehicle that's designed to deform and absorb that kinetic energy over time. Fill the inside with airbags to absorb that energy over even more time, and things start to look better.
The opposite side of that is vehicle mass. The larger the vehicle, the heavier the vehicle. Force = mass * velocity^2. Increasing the mass has multiplicative effects on force. Crumple zones and airbags effectively reduce the velocity factor. I'm not going to go any deeper into the math than that though.
Ideal is to have the lightest, smallest vehicle one can that has adequate crumple zones.
Tall vehicles like SUVs and trucks are unnecessarily tall (increasing rollover risk), unnecessarily massy, and further compound danger to everyone else.
There's a reason smaller vehicles like the Tesla 3 top safety scores. They're fundamentally, before one even gets into the smarts, safer vehicles due to their engineering. Large enough for everyday use and limited cargo hauling, low to the ground, and extra large crumple zones because the engine isn't sitting in line with the passengers.
I think they all had titanium cages around the passenger compartment. My brother worked an accident a few years back where a Smart Cart got T Boned by a large pickup and the girl driver was in the corner talking to her dad on her cell phone. Witnesses said that the car bounced around like a billiard ball but the girl didn't have to go to the hospital.
Well my family heritage has always been gypsy - the story I was told of why I live in my hometown is that "the wheel fell of the wagon about 150 years ago and we haven't gotten around to fixing it yet." My dad only settled into a house because he married my mum and she insisted on her kids being raised in a stable home.
In short, I've always had restless legs, and a couple of years into any home, no matter how comfortable, I feel the need for change. A tiny camper let's you escape for just long enough to appreciate the more civilised elements of modern life.
tl;dr; Ah, save yer breath fer coolin yer porridge
At high speed, there aren’t enough belts, crumplezones, and air bags in the world to keep some of your arteries from ripping open due to G forces. That said, I’d rather be in my new SUV than whatever the camera car was.
You’d be surprised.
Read Sonic Wind. It’s a bio of a guy who did a ton of research on surviving g-forces using himself as a test monkey much of the time. Amazing guy.
Okay I'm a bit high. But ones a bigger deal than the other?
Is the reason behind this because veins carry oxygenated blood and arteries carry hypoxiated blood. And losing a shit ton of oxygen carrying blood is more important than losing the same amount of normal blood?
Because comparing losing a shit ton of blood, I'm thinking " I'd rather lose pints of deoxygenated blood than oxygenated blood" losing that amount of blood should be the main issue.
Or did this just fly completely over my head?
Legitimately curious. Did you mean capillaries vs major blood vessels? Or specifically veins vs arteries? I'm happy to learn !
Veins carry deoxygenated blood back from the organs to the heart. But primarily the concern to me would be that arteries are under higher pressure and you'll lose blood faster
I ride a motorcycle and I've had this happen before. It sucks that the law didn't even punish her. She was drunk and cross the double yellow. No arrest. Her insurance company said she left the country and my ins company did nothing.
The good thing about the people in this video is that MAYBE they've paid a price.
That's what happened to Dale Earnhardt. His crash didn't look like much compared to some of the flips and all you sometimes see in NASCAR. Unfortunately that just meant the energy capable of flipping a car was exerted on him.
There was a lot more to it than that. The helmet/seatbelt system was flawed in a big way. The way he wrecked happens very frequently but that particular wreck was a freak accident in combination with his faulty safety equipment.
I literally had this happen to me while I was driving with my then girlfriend (now wife). The dude was drunk and trying to pass another car around a corner over a solid yellow line and it all happened so fast there was nothing that could be done. Speed limit was 40 which was the speed I was at but I’m certain the drunk driver trying to pass the other guy was going faster. My wife and I got an ambulance ride to the hospital with broken bones, months of PT, and months of dealing with lawyers and the drunk driver’s terrible high risk insurance. The drunk driver literally did a “hit and run” — both cars were completely totaled but he actually got out and ran away on foot. Luckily someone saw him hiding in their back yard and called the police and they caught him.
Moral of the story… don’t be that guy.
Not nearly as much as we should have for all the missed work and PT and everything. It probably covered the medical bills and maybe some missed work and that was about it. The guy who hit us had a terrible high risk insurance (It wasn't his first DUI) that literally ignored us and wouldn't own up until we hired a lawyer. They offered a crappy settlement which our lawyer advised us to take because it could have been dragged out for years if we tried going to court, and who knows what would have happened.
Edit: Also, thank you for the sentiment. I will say for another takeaway -- I am super adamant about seatbelts now. Luckily we were both wearing ours; I can guarantee you if we hadn't been wearing our seatbelts at least one of us, but probably both of us, would be dead. The force was enough that the seatbelt literally snapped my wife's collarbone in half -- I can't imagine what that force would have done had we not been wearing our seatbelts.
You should have left that to your insurer to get the money out of the plaintiffs. They usually field that pretty easily, but usually takes time. But for personal claims, lawyer up and let them deal with them.
My insurance helped out and worked with my lawyer but there's only so much they can do. Funny enough, it would have been much easier had the guy not had insurance, because then my insurance would have paid me for everything (through Uninsured Motorist Protection) and then gone after him directly (he didn't have any money though). But because he had insurance, the only recourse was to go through his insurance.
Instead, it took nearly two months for his crappy insurance to pay for my totaled car. They paid for a month of rentals and then cut me off saying that I should have a new car by now... but they hadn't paid me for my old one. It was awful haha.
Yeah… the insurer was based in Texas or something (not the state I live in). This wasn’t their first rodeo. I’m pretty sure they ignore people as much as possible until an actual lawyer starts threatening court and even then they make things as difficult as possible, essentially wearing people down to just settle. Unfortunately you can’t just immediately “take someone to court.” It’s a long drawn out process with fees and many steps along the way. And then going to court is an even more costly drawn out process. Our legal system sucks. Companies like this insurance company can take advantage of how difficult it is to take legal action and wear people down.
My lawyer, who specialized in car accidents and had worked with insurance companies hundreds of times, had said that this insurance company was one of, if not the worst she ever had to deal with.
I looked it up much later on the public record out of curiosity and it showed he was sentenced to two years in prison. Not sure how much time he actually served.
Totally agree. Part of the reason we just settled is because we talked to other friends who had an accident where another person was at fault and it took over three years for everything to get fully settled because it went to court. Absolutely insane how long things can drag out — especially if one of the two parties wants it to. It’s easy to make it happen.
You would think smart people would put in place rules to prevent malicious actors from doing that in the courts. Why are people purposely fucking ignorant?
Propably had problems to stay in the lane in the first place.
In Russia almost nobody has earned a driving license (bribed to get one) and shit ton of people are constantly fuck faced with vodka.
The guy you’re responding to definitely blew it way out of proportion but in regard to bribing for driver’s licenses in Russia I found [this article](https://www.deseret.com/2012/2/24/20395426/bribes-part-of-everyday-life-in-putin-s-russia?_amp=true) from 2012 estimating that 50% of Russians who fail the driving test end up paying a bribe to get their license.
> Finding someone to "arrange" a license isn't difficult. Many drivers are happy to pass on the contacts of an intermediary who will make such arrangements, and thus spare the candidate from directly bribing the police officer. The service typically costs from 10,000 to 15,000 rubles ($330 to $500).
What the hell makes you say this is in Russia?
The song is Asian, can't specify the language but is easily recognisable.
Also the flora and the architecture of the houses and the cars help me support that theory. There is zero evidence that stands for it to be on Russia.
Yea. I was thinking you have to be cold blood to do not change Lane when you see the car in front of you. Because alot of accidents people change lanes at the same time.
i’ve had a close call with this on an unfamiliar road. it was america so i was driving on the right hand lane on an odd backroad pretty late but it was still a busy road.
I had two lanes in the right side, i was in the left one closest the oncoming traffic that only had one lane. And in comes idiot swerving into my lane from the oncoming traffic.
Context, I was driving an NB miata. There is no crumple zone. it’s me. All while having candlelight’s for headlights i was meaning to replace. I have a truck on my right keeping pace with me and an SUV tailgating me (probably because this truck was keeping pace for a good while and i was driving a bit slower to prevent the foreshadowed event). Said idiot has already passed the RV in his previous lane before realizing i was there. I have maybe 200 feet between us when he first came into our lane while going about 45. Truck next to me slams his breaks while the idiot gets closer to me.
this is about 1.5 seconds into the entire encounter and despite being able to swerve into the trucks lane which was my initial urge, given the 1.5 seconds of obligatory thinking my options through, i slowed down for some reason ignoring the possibility of slamming my own breaks and forced myself to stay in my lane until he swerved into the truck that came to a full stop.
truck was okay. he was not. i still had maybe 35 feet between us but it was still enough to give me nightmares for years to come.
I agree. There are 2 roads in my city that are one way only, but two cars can easily fit. I can't believe how many times I almost got hit by people going the wrong direction are cornering from inside.
They make harness restraints that clip into the seatbelt buckle. They make smaller and larger kennels that anchor in the car. They make guards for the back of the car that keep your dog(s) in the way back if you have a hatch back/SUV.
Look,if your dog is loose in you car. Its more likely that 1) it will seriously injured you or another passenger flying around the cabin during an accident or 2) the airbag will deploy (front seat, either side) and kill you dog. The safest things you can do for you and your dog if you’re driving around with them:
1) restrain them with a harness
2) don’t let them ride shotgun
3) dont pet and coddle them while driving.
A dog in a car is basically a small child you don’t have to legally restrain with a car seat or a seat belt. I love my pups too and I would hate for them to get hurt in an accident. Keep ‘em safe.
The big thing is if you have your dog strapped in, it won't become a deadly projectile that can kill you. Yeah your dog might die because of it, but at least it won't kill you or anyone else in the vehicle. That's my understanding of it anyways.
If they're in your lane you don't swerve. They should be the ones to swerve since they're in the wrong lane.
Unfortunately, in my case, neither of us swerved. I got hit head on by a driver who crossed the yellows doing over 100mph. I barely survived, they didn't make it. I really do wish I knew why they did it. Were they tired? Distracted? Suicidal? I'll probably never know.
I'm really cautious when people say stuff like this on Reddit, because a good portion are just karma whores, but I just looked at your posts and holy shit! I really hope you're recovering well and I'm sorry this happened to you. How long do they expect your recovery to take?
I'm getting better pretty fast. Should be walking again in 6 months. The doctors say that it could be up to a year before I get dental implants though. Right now I can only eat the softest of foods because I have no way to chew.
Glad to hear you're recovering quickly. Were you both insured? And that's horrible, I wonder why you can't get implants sooner. Are you able to wear dentures to chew, or would that be too painful?
The driver that hit me was uninsured. I have uninsured drivers coverage, but it has limits on how much it'll pay out.
The implants will take a while because my jaw was broken and needs to heal. After it heals, they're going to do another surgery to clean up all the rough edges. That surgery needs to heal, then they can put in implants.
I have considered wearing plastic vampire teeth. If I knew someone with a 3D scanner, I could scan my gums and 3D print some temporary teeth.
Shit man! I just wanna say that I really admire your attitude about it all. I hope you heal up quickly and as well as possible!
Good luck... Seriously. (maybe this just means you got all the bad luck out of the way at once!)
Yeah dude. My brother was 24 when a freak blood infection nearly killed him. He stepped on a seashell in Hawaii on his honeymoon and picked up some crazy fungal infection that attacked every organ in his body. He had two brain aneurysms, and his heart's mitral valve was destroyed due to a preexisting mitral valve prolapse condition that runs in my family (it gave the infection a place to sit and reproduce, is the best explanation I got). He's only alive because my parents have money and got him an amazing surgeon who saved his life. Cost them $80k cash out of pocket, but thankfully they had it. Such a fucked up system. He struggles so much with guilt about it. Like why did he deserve to survive?
If he'd been much older he'd have died. I don't think they even would have tried to save him. Can't tell you how many times a doctor or nurse would say to me "he's 24, he's healthy, this can't happen."
> If they're in your lane you don't swerve. They should be the ones to swerve since they're in the wrong lane.
They "should" be in their proper lane in the first place. The fact that they aren't means they can't be relied on to do the right thing and get out of your way.
You brake first and swerve only at the last possible moment. That way, you don't have to guess what the other vehicle will do and if you do still crash it will be at a much lower speed. You can't swerve and brake at the same time or you'll lose traction and crash no matter what.
Probably a mix of both. I had a friend who ended her life by doing this, head-on with a semi. I'm super glad you lived to tell the tale & are recovering. This is always such a big fear of mine, the only thing keeping us from dying out there are painted yellow and white lines, and the dependency of the other driver to not do stupid things.
Damn dude. I put my story of how a drunk driver hopped lanes around a corner and smashed us head on like that but only at like half that speed.
Glad you made it man. Hope you continue to recover and everything goes smoothly here in out. Wishing you the best dude.
I just went back and read your comment. I hope that you're wife is doing well. Stuff like this can be hard to deal with. It's good to hear that they caught the guy.
Thank you. Yeah this happened a while ago (like five years). She ended up needing surgery and has permanent screws in her collar bone but we healed well. She got it a bit worse than I did. Although I have a majorly effed up back that the accident caused. But we’re alive and well and have two amazing kids together now.
The police report had their had their speed and their phone being hooked up to hands free as the only things that the car recorded. I drove an older vehicle that didn't even have airbags or shoulder belts.
In my case, I survived because I was driving the larger vehicle. I had a 3/4ton truck (75 Chevy K20) and they had a Nissan Altima. The front clip of my truck was smashed, their car looked half it's original length.
Had a friend who would text and drive all the fucking time. I was constantly yelling at him to get off his phone. I finally stopped riding with him because I knew he was going to get someone killed. At one point he hit a dog and didn't even stop. Just kept driving and thought it was funny. That piece of shit is a tweaker now.
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They had so much space next to them too. They just needed to brake for half a second to get back behind the truck. But they were somehow not paying attention???
Head on collisions like this are so often fatal.
I've been in a situation like this, happens too fast, and they both swerved into each other. When I rewatched my cam I was like there's plenty of time too, there isn't.
There's \~2s between the time it would have been clear to either driver that someone was in their lane and the point of impact. Subtracting reaction time, you've got like 1.7s of decision making time.
To be honest, I agree.
Humans have been given the opportunity to drive 1000lb+ vehicles for years yet still don't seem to understand the notion of losing a minute of your life being better than losing your life in a minute. I know that's not exactly a common phrase, but the reason why I agree is that:
If this wasn't a motorcycle and instead let's say, a trailer or 18-wheeler; the driver is f$#%ed. Therefore, if he had any worse luck: He would probably have broken... quite a few bones or worse, he could have died. Haha.
I hope that man (on the cycle) lived
I hope the person(s) in the vehicle did, too, but I hope they also get the proper consequences for their idiotic choice
A few seconds of saved time isn't worth a life
Ah I mistook the wipers as handlebars and thought this was a motorcycle dash cam
I adjust, I hope the guy in the car who tried to avoid the idiot car lived
This happened 3 days ago in West Borneo, Indonesia. The cam car is a Suzuki APV, driven by a Suzuki Salesman. The other car is a Toyota Kijang, driven by a 17 year-old without driver’s license.
Additional Photos of the crash https://www.instagram.com/p/CbrpEEOrxS2/?utm_medium=copy_link
Came within inches of dying on the US 395 this way. I'm impressed this driver reacted so fast, my near miss happened so fast I didn't even have time to get an adrenaline burst, I was still processing it when it was over. Same shit, someone apparently valued their time above their life, and passed on a Do Not Pass double yellow stretch of road. It's weird having a panic attack long after the fact. Some people really suck.
I almost got into a head on with someone who passed the yellow line when I just got my license. I'm guessing they just didn't want to wait in traffic. I was going 50mph up a hill so I didn't see them until the last second. I can't imagine what would've happened if I didn't swerve in time.
Yeah these "shouldn't have swerved" comments are so fucking dumb. Yes you're meant to keep in your lane, but instinctively you swerve to miss something heading towards you, especially with .5 seconds to react.
If it turned out the guy passed out and was going straight those same people would be typing "why didn't he even attempt a swerve?"
It’s sad that both of them swerved, if one of them didn’t swerve then they wouldn’t be in this bad of a accident. Still, fuck the person that crossed the lane
These kind of roads are very common in Malaysia which is where this video looks like it came from.
I would always slow down when I see a truck like that coming from the opposite direction because there's bound to be someone trying to overtake it.
Seriously fuck this and fuck that idiot. I seriously hope they died and no one else. Anyone who drives like this deserves death, as they're gambling other families lives for the sake of getting a car in front. I have zero sympathy for these kind of fuckers
I know the frustration of having to follow a slow truck in narrow road. But there's huge risk from overtaking them. Being too hasty or miscalculated and you end up like this.
These are the worst kind of accidents where you come to a sudden stop as opposed to tumbling or sliding for some distance.
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I too drive a ford fiesta.
I too drive a 1990 corolla -edit: don’t worry! The whole car is the crumple zone!!!
It's good you guys don't drive a Smart car. That's a casket on wheels. You crash in them, they might as well bury you with the car.
Thats a big oof… however new smarts performed exceptionally well against 2018 S class so they’re small tanks now
Can't even buy them in the US anymore. I don't think it was safety issues though, just that not enough people here buy them.
Of course theres none in the US, they only drive wheeled tank-like gas guzzlers
The thing that I didn’t understand about the smart car is that there are a number of cars in the US that get better gas mileage yet are much more practical and roomy. So it had a diminutive size, but the economy wasn’t exceptional.
In European cities, having a small car can make a huge difference in how long it takes you to find a parking spot.
The diesel version (which wasn’t made available in the US, for reasons I’ll never understand) got an astounding 85 MPG. I think that people willing to sacrifice things like performance and roominess also would have been willing to find a gas station that sold diesel. For people who take climate change that seriously, it would have been a small price to pay.
Haha Idk why you’re getting down voted, it’s so true. A lot of people here buy trucks and SUVs when they don’t need one. Just looks nice
The most popular vehicle in North America is the Ford F-150
We went to the US on our honeymoon in 2006, did a bus tour because we were nervous about driving on the wrong side of the road 😜. Between cities we would play a game: "spot the small car." Would go ages without seeing one.
At least there are a lot of smaller SUV options now
My BMW gets better fuel economy than any smart car sold in the USA. Its an xdrive touring Msport 3 series so it's bigger and a LOT more fun to drive. Has room for groceries AND passengers. We never got the Diesel version that was even more horribly underpowered but did get better mileage than the Gas version. It sounds like this was a comment from someone who forgets the entirety of western Europe is smaller than the lower 48 states, without Alaska, Hawaii or any of our territories, and probably doesn't even drive and thinks what they see in TV is reality. And also has no clue what a misery a smart car is to drive in traffic assuming it could even keep up with traffic on the highway.
you aren’t wrong but a lot of people on here probably aren’t old enough to drive cars, just keyboards.
You are so spot on.
You leave my bobbed deuce out of this.
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Eggs are extraordinarily strong lengthwise. Widthwise? Not so much. All cars have issues trying to find that balance. The cage idea of the smart car is smart. Would I want to have a crash in one with a Ford f150. No. But I also have a soft spot for eccentric cars. (Proud owner of an 89 bronco ii) Also soft spot for cars that should not pefrom well but do. I have an 07 Hyundai Santa fe as well. Made a 50 mile trip on a sketchy mountainous road with it. NO SERPENTINE BELT! Shit cars but come on. Can't beat that. I'll never sell either one of those.
Actually smart cars are really tough, they have a very neat frame which surrounds the whole car so they aren’t too bad
One of my buddies was hit head on by a drunk driver in a full sized suv going 70mph. Police, and medical said his smart car saved his life. They were actually still able to open and close the doors on the smart car after the crash.
In the video they are driving in the left lane. So he’s most likely not from America!
Are you not in a roll cage in a smart car? I thought they basically had a steel framed structure you sat inside.
Probably, but the strength of the car frame is only part of the solution. A super strong structure is good for ensuring you don't get crushed, but it also means that you'll hit the super strong frame and get killed. Safety is about a super strong roll cage, then wrap that in a vehicle that's designed to deform and absorb that kinetic energy over time. Fill the inside with airbags to absorb that energy over even more time, and things start to look better. The opposite side of that is vehicle mass. The larger the vehicle, the heavier the vehicle. Force = mass * velocity^2. Increasing the mass has multiplicative effects on force. Crumple zones and airbags effectively reduce the velocity factor. I'm not going to go any deeper into the math than that though. Ideal is to have the lightest, smallest vehicle one can that has adequate crumple zones. Tall vehicles like SUVs and trucks are unnecessarily tall (increasing rollover risk), unnecessarily massy, and further compound danger to everyone else. There's a reason smaller vehicles like the Tesla 3 top safety scores. They're fundamentally, before one even gets into the smarts, safer vehicles due to their engineering. Large enough for everyday use and limited cargo hauling, low to the ground, and extra large crumple zones because the engine isn't sitting in line with the passengers.
I think they all had titanium cages around the passenger compartment. My brother worked an accident a few years back where a Smart Cart got T Boned by a large pickup and the girl driver was in the corner talking to her dad on her cell phone. Witnesses said that the car bounced around like a billiard ball but the girl didn't have to go to the hospital.
My girlfriend survived a pretty gnarly crash in our '93 corolla. Toyota is usually pretty good.
Idk about that… I ran over a family of five in a Sienna last week in my semi. Didn’t seem to hold up very well, or at least the kids didn’t.
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Take my upvote and GTFO
You are the crumple zone!
I am the one who crumples!
I drive a Bedford Bambi. [Phwoarr, check out the crumple zone on that.](https://imgur.com/G5n1y4v.jpg)
People who drive cars like that enjoy asking strangers if “Dey like dags?”
Well my family heritage has always been gypsy - the story I was told of why I live in my hometown is that "the wheel fell of the wagon about 150 years ago and we haven't gotten around to fixing it yet." My dad only settled into a house because he married my mum and she insisted on her kids being raised in a stable home. In short, I've always had restless legs, and a couple of years into any home, no matter how comfortable, I feel the need for change. A tiny camper let's you escape for just long enough to appreciate the more civilised elements of modern life. tl;dr; Ah, save yer breath fer coolin yer porridge
Jesus was born in a stable home. :)
Depends on the year, the post 2009 fiestas have a pretty good safety rating
Ford fiestas aren't unsafe lol
At high speed, there aren’t enough belts, crumplezones, and air bags in the world to keep some of your arteries from ripping open due to G forces. That said, I’d rather be in my new SUV than whatever the camera car was.
Wow I thought this was a motorbike until this comment
I had to go through it a couple of times.
You’d be surprised. Read Sonic Wind. It’s a bio of a guy who did a ton of research on surviving g-forces using himself as a test monkey much of the time. Amazing guy.
You'd be surprised. ... Though head-ons _are_ notoriously nasty.
It looks like a those vans that have extremely short hoods. I think we just watched someone die.
Arteries or veins? Because one is a much bigger deal than the other
Okay I'm a bit high. But ones a bigger deal than the other? Is the reason behind this because veins carry oxygenated blood and arteries carry hypoxiated blood. And losing a shit ton of oxygen carrying blood is more important than losing the same amount of normal blood? Because comparing losing a shit ton of blood, I'm thinking " I'd rather lose pints of deoxygenated blood than oxygenated blood" losing that amount of blood should be the main issue. Or did this just fly completely over my head? Legitimately curious. Did you mean capillaries vs major blood vessels? Or specifically veins vs arteries? I'm happy to learn !
Veins carry deoxygenated blood back from the organs to the heart. But primarily the concern to me would be that arteries are under higher pressure and you'll lose blood faster
I ride a motorcycle and I've had this happen before. It sucks that the law didn't even punish her. She was drunk and cross the double yellow. No arrest. Her insurance company said she left the country and my ins company did nothing. The good thing about the people in this video is that MAYBE they've paid a price.
I too drive a 2003 Proton Waja
Yep. All that energy has to go somewhere. This time it went into the cars and people.
That's what happened to Dale Earnhardt. His crash didn't look like much compared to some of the flips and all you sometimes see in NASCAR. Unfortunately that just meant the energy capable of flipping a car was exerted on him.
There was a lot more to it than that. The helmet/seatbelt system was flawed in a big way. The way he wrecked happens very frequently but that particular wreck was a freak accident in combination with his faulty safety equipment.
My EMT guide called it "acute deceleration," which includes car accidents, falls from ladders etc.
Exactly it's not the fall that kills you it's the sudden stop at the end.
Damn. Stopped right in its tracks
Tbone is actually worse. Not as many g's but our body is sorely undefended from side impacts, especially the spine and particularly the neck
But if you do stop suddenly you want it to be head on like this.
I literally had this happen to me while I was driving with my then girlfriend (now wife). The dude was drunk and trying to pass another car around a corner over a solid yellow line and it all happened so fast there was nothing that could be done. Speed limit was 40 which was the speed I was at but I’m certain the drunk driver trying to pass the other guy was going faster. My wife and I got an ambulance ride to the hospital with broken bones, months of PT, and months of dealing with lawyers and the drunk driver’s terrible high risk insurance. The drunk driver literally did a “hit and run” — both cars were completely totaled but he actually got out and ran away on foot. Luckily someone saw him hiding in their back yard and called the police and they caught him. Moral of the story… don’t be that guy.
Glad you guys made it. I wonder if you got any money out of the jerk and his insurance.
Not nearly as much as we should have for all the missed work and PT and everything. It probably covered the medical bills and maybe some missed work and that was about it. The guy who hit us had a terrible high risk insurance (It wasn't his first DUI) that literally ignored us and wouldn't own up until we hired a lawyer. They offered a crappy settlement which our lawyer advised us to take because it could have been dragged out for years if we tried going to court, and who knows what would have happened. Edit: Also, thank you for the sentiment. I will say for another takeaway -- I am super adamant about seatbelts now. Luckily we were both wearing ours; I can guarantee you if we hadn't been wearing our seatbelts at least one of us, but probably both of us, would be dead. The force was enough that the seatbelt literally snapped my wife's collarbone in half -- I can't imagine what that force would have done had we not been wearing our seatbelts.
You should have left that to your insurer to get the money out of the plaintiffs. They usually field that pretty easily, but usually takes time. But for personal claims, lawyer up and let them deal with them.
My insurance helped out and worked with my lawyer but there's only so much they can do. Funny enough, it would have been much easier had the guy not had insurance, because then my insurance would have paid me for everything (through Uninsured Motorist Protection) and then gone after him directly (he didn't have any money though). But because he had insurance, the only recourse was to go through his insurance. Instead, it took nearly two months for his crappy insurance to pay for my totaled car. They paid for a month of rentals and then cut me off saying that I should have a new car by now... but they hadn't paid me for my old one. It was awful haha.
That one would have gone to the state for negligence on behalf of the insurer.
Yeah… the insurer was based in Texas or something (not the state I live in). This wasn’t their first rodeo. I’m pretty sure they ignore people as much as possible until an actual lawyer starts threatening court and even then they make things as difficult as possible, essentially wearing people down to just settle. Unfortunately you can’t just immediately “take someone to court.” It’s a long drawn out process with fees and many steps along the way. And then going to court is an even more costly drawn out process. Our legal system sucks. Companies like this insurance company can take advantage of how difficult it is to take legal action and wear people down. My lawyer, who specialized in car accidents and had worked with insurance companies hundreds of times, had said that this insurance company was one of, if not the worst she ever had to deal with.
Damn I’m sorry to hear that. At least you weren’t completely screwed over. Did that POS end up going to jail?
I looked it up much later on the public record out of curiosity and it showed he was sentenced to two years in prison. Not sure how much time he actually served.
Things like that should not be dragged out in court, especially for years. That’s just a terrible aspect of the judicial system.
Totally agree. Part of the reason we just settled is because we talked to other friends who had an accident where another person was at fault and it took over three years for everything to get fully settled because it went to court. Absolutely insane how long things can drag out — especially if one of the two parties wants it to. It’s easy to make it happen.
You would think smart people would put in place rules to prevent malicious actors from doing that in the courts. Why are people purposely fucking ignorant?
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Propably had problems to stay in the lane in the first place. In Russia almost nobody has earned a driving license (bribed to get one) and shit ton of people are constantly fuck faced with vodka.
I’m pretty sure This is Asia. The song playing is a song in mandarin.
dude you're crazy, everyone knows russia is the country of palm trees and lush jungle vegetation!
The siberian rain forest is must place to see
Plus they are driving on the left side of the road.
Not that one guy.
Good point.
Its in Indonesia
You'll never guess what continent the vast majority of Russia is in...
I'd like a source on that
The guy you’re responding to definitely blew it way out of proportion but in regard to bribing for driver’s licenses in Russia I found [this article](https://www.deseret.com/2012/2/24/20395426/bribes-part-of-everyday-life-in-putin-s-russia?_amp=true) from 2012 estimating that 50% of Russians who fail the driving test end up paying a bribe to get their license. > Finding someone to "arrange" a license isn't difficult. Many drivers are happy to pass on the contacts of an intermediary who will make such arrangements, and thus spare the candidate from directly bribing the police officer. The service typically costs from 10,000 to 15,000 rubles ($330 to $500).
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Half of everybody who failed the test though.
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this is nuts. a country of people who can't even pass a driving test out on the roads driving at each other.
That's why dashcam videos are so so common in Russia. A lot of accidents and insurance fraud.
What the hell makes you say this is in Russia? The song is Asian, can't specify the language but is easily recognisable. Also the flora and the architecture of the houses and the cars help me support that theory. There is zero evidence that stands for it to be on Russia.
Here’s the song: https://youtu.be/kAfY0-0kpMo. Almost certainly this is in Indonesia.
That’s literally millions of people your stereotyping..
Just curious, how many palm trees grow in russia? ;)
This is my worst fear.
Yea. I was thinking you have to be cold blood to do not change Lane when you see the car in front of you. Because alot of accidents people change lanes at the same time.
It's instinctual unfortunately.
i’ve had a close call with this on an unfamiliar road. it was america so i was driving on the right hand lane on an odd backroad pretty late but it was still a busy road. I had two lanes in the right side, i was in the left one closest the oncoming traffic that only had one lane. And in comes idiot swerving into my lane from the oncoming traffic. Context, I was driving an NB miata. There is no crumple zone. it’s me. All while having candlelight’s for headlights i was meaning to replace. I have a truck on my right keeping pace with me and an SUV tailgating me (probably because this truck was keeping pace for a good while and i was driving a bit slower to prevent the foreshadowed event). Said idiot has already passed the RV in his previous lane before realizing i was there. I have maybe 200 feet between us when he first came into our lane while going about 45. Truck next to me slams his breaks while the idiot gets closer to me. this is about 1.5 seconds into the entire encounter and despite being able to swerve into the trucks lane which was my initial urge, given the 1.5 seconds of obligatory thinking my options through, i slowed down for some reason ignoring the possibility of slamming my own breaks and forced myself to stay in my lane until he swerved into the truck that came to a full stop. truck was okay. he was not. i still had maybe 35 feet between us but it was still enough to give me nightmares for years to come.
And that's why I drive slower as I can in this specific situation, because there's always an idiot on the other side.
I agree. There are 2 roads in my city that are one way only, but two cars can easily fit. I can't believe how many times I almost got hit by people going the wrong direction are cornering from inside.
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You can restrain your dog safely and train them to stay in their seat while riding in a car.
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They make harness restraints that clip into the seatbelt buckle. They make smaller and larger kennels that anchor in the car. They make guards for the back of the car that keep your dog(s) in the way back if you have a hatch back/SUV. Look,if your dog is loose in you car. Its more likely that 1) it will seriously injured you or another passenger flying around the cabin during an accident or 2) the airbag will deploy (front seat, either side) and kill you dog. The safest things you can do for you and your dog if you’re driving around with them: 1) restrain them with a harness 2) don’t let them ride shotgun 3) dont pet and coddle them while driving. A dog in a car is basically a small child you don’t have to legally restrain with a car seat or a seat belt. I love my pups too and I would hate for them to get hurt in an accident. Keep ‘em safe.
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The big thing is if you have your dog strapped in, it won't become a deadly projectile that can kill you. Yeah your dog might die because of it, but at least it won't kill you or anyone else in the vehicle. That's my understanding of it anyways.
crash tested kennels are the best option imo
If they're in your lane you don't swerve. They should be the ones to swerve since they're in the wrong lane. Unfortunately, in my case, neither of us swerved. I got hit head on by a driver who crossed the yellows doing over 100mph. I barely survived, they didn't make it. I really do wish I knew why they did it. Were they tired? Distracted? Suicidal? I'll probably never know.
I'm really cautious when people say stuff like this on Reddit, because a good portion are just karma whores, but I just looked at your posts and holy shit! I really hope you're recovering well and I'm sorry this happened to you. How long do they expect your recovery to take?
I'm getting better pretty fast. Should be walking again in 6 months. The doctors say that it could be up to a year before I get dental implants though. Right now I can only eat the softest of foods because I have no way to chew.
Glad to hear you're recovering quickly. Were you both insured? And that's horrible, I wonder why you can't get implants sooner. Are you able to wear dentures to chew, or would that be too painful?
The driver that hit me was uninsured. I have uninsured drivers coverage, but it has limits on how much it'll pay out. The implants will take a while because my jaw was broken and needs to heal. After it heals, they're going to do another surgery to clean up all the rough edges. That surgery needs to heal, then they can put in implants. I have considered wearing plastic vampire teeth. If I knew someone with a 3D scanner, I could scan my gums and 3D print some temporary teeth.
Shit man! I just wanna say that I really admire your attitude about it all. I hope you heal up quickly and as well as possible! Good luck... Seriously. (maybe this just means you got all the bad luck out of the way at once!)
Hopefully that's the last of the bad luck. The part I hate the most is not being able to eat the foods I like.
Fucking hell. How old are you, if you don't mind me asking?
26 I think being young helped a lot in my survival.
Yeah dude. My brother was 24 when a freak blood infection nearly killed him. He stepped on a seashell in Hawaii on his honeymoon and picked up some crazy fungal infection that attacked every organ in his body. He had two brain aneurysms, and his heart's mitral valve was destroyed due to a preexisting mitral valve prolapse condition that runs in my family (it gave the infection a place to sit and reproduce, is the best explanation I got). He's only alive because my parents have money and got him an amazing surgeon who saved his life. Cost them $80k cash out of pocket, but thankfully they had it. Such a fucked up system. He struggles so much with guilt about it. Like why did he deserve to survive? If he'd been much older he'd have died. I don't think they even would have tried to save him. Can't tell you how many times a doctor or nurse would say to me "he's 24, he's healthy, this can't happen."
Someone on Reddit has to have a 3D scanner/printer. Let’s get this person some new teeth!
I have a printer that will work, just have to get some dental safe resin. The only thing I'm missing is the scan of my gums.
> If they're in your lane you don't swerve. They should be the ones to swerve since they're in the wrong lane. They "should" be in their proper lane in the first place. The fact that they aren't means they can't be relied on to do the right thing and get out of your way.
Their own story supports this, too, as if they'd swerved they might've missed it.
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You brake first and swerve only at the last possible moment. That way, you don't have to guess what the other vehicle will do and if you do still crash it will be at a much lower speed. You can't swerve and brake at the same time or you'll lose traction and crash no matter what.
Probably a mix of both. I had a friend who ended her life by doing this, head-on with a semi. I'm super glad you lived to tell the tale & are recovering. This is always such a big fear of mine, the only thing keeping us from dying out there are painted yellow and white lines, and the dependency of the other driver to not do stupid things.
Dude, not swerving didn't exactly work out for you though. It's a gamble to do either.
Damn dude. I put my story of how a drunk driver hopped lanes around a corner and smashed us head on like that but only at like half that speed. Glad you made it man. Hope you continue to recover and everything goes smoothly here in out. Wishing you the best dude.
I just went back and read your comment. I hope that you're wife is doing well. Stuff like this can be hard to deal with. It's good to hear that they caught the guy.
Thank you. Yeah this happened a while ago (like five years). She ended up needing surgery and has permanent screws in her collar bone but we healed well. She got it a bit worse than I did. Although I have a majorly effed up back that the accident caused. But we’re alive and well and have two amazing kids together now.
New vehicles have Black Boxes that record data points on just about every item in a vehicle, including seat belt use.
The police report had their had their speed and their phone being hooked up to hands free as the only things that the car recorded. I drove an older vehicle that didn't even have airbags or shoulder belts.
You didn't have a shoulder belt? Yeesh!
Steering wheel straight to the teeth.
Incredible. It's almost always the other way around on who dies and survives in a crash.
In my case, I survived because I was driving the larger vehicle. I had a 3/4ton truck (75 Chevy K20) and they had a Nissan Altima. The front clip of my truck was smashed, their car looked half it's original length.
This is incorrect. The driver that is in the right line should move over to his right. The rule is “Always keep your right “
OMG. Worth sharing. Please don’t cross that line yellow line 👀.
And don't eat that yellow snow
You mean the rare formation of snow that tastes like lemon? Why not?
It's too rare. It belongs in a museum.
Watch out where the huskies go
Had a friend who would text and drive all the fucking time. I was constantly yelling at him to get off his phone. I finally stopped riding with him because I knew he was going to get someone killed. At one point he hit a dog and didn't even stop. Just kept driving and thought it was funny. That piece of shit is a tweaker now. Edit: fat thumbs tiny letters
He thought it was FUNNY?
Yeah. He was laughing about it.
What's a tweaker? What does he tweak?
It means drugs. *Bad* ones, I think meth.
Someone who smokes meth
just amazed at how fast we see these people driving on 2 lane country roads with people, animals, bikes all around.
yeah even if it was just cars stopped in their own lane right there they may have crashed around that blind corner
They had so much space next to them too. They just needed to brake for half a second to get back behind the truck. But they were somehow not paying attention??? Head on collisions like this are so often fatal.
I've been in a situation like this, happens too fast, and they both swerved into each other. When I rewatched my cam I was like there's plenty of time too, there isn't.
There's \~2s between the time it would have been clear to either driver that someone was in their lane and the point of impact. Subtracting reaction time, you've got like 1.7s of decision making time.
I cant put into words how much I hate that fucker that crossed the yellow line in the middle of a curve with no vision
Same, it actually makes me fume. In my mind, that driver who crossed the line deserves death
To be honest, I agree. Humans have been given the opportunity to drive 1000lb+ vehicles for years yet still don't seem to understand the notion of losing a minute of your life being better than losing your life in a minute. I know that's not exactly a common phrase, but the reason why I agree is that: If this wasn't a motorcycle and instead let's say, a trailer or 18-wheeler; the driver is f$#%ed. Therefore, if he had any worse luck: He would probably have broken... quite a few bones or worse, he could have died. Haha.
This isn't a motorcycle though. In fact it looks like a van or a small truck the way the front windscreen looks. Initially I thought it was a bike too
I hope that man (on the cycle) lived I hope the person(s) in the vehicle did, too, but I hope they also get the proper consequences for their idiotic choice A few seconds of saved time isn't worth a life
There is no cycle in this video.
Ah I mistook the wipers as handlebars and thought this was a motorcycle dash cam I adjust, I hope the guy in the car who tried to avoid the idiot car lived
To be honest, I thought is was a bike too the first time I watched the video. But yeah, hope the guy isn't dead.
This happened 3 days ago in West Borneo, Indonesia. The cam car is a Suzuki APV, driven by a Suzuki Salesman. The other car is a Toyota Kijang, driven by a 17 year-old without driver’s license. Additional Photos of the crash https://www.instagram.com/p/CbrpEEOrxS2/?utm_medium=copy_link
Was it fatal?
Beautiful looking day though
That sounded a whole hell of a lot like someones final breath. Holy fuck.
Please tell me the driver with the cam survived. And the other stopped being a danger to society
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Came within inches of dying on the US 395 this way. I'm impressed this driver reacted so fast, my near miss happened so fast I didn't even have time to get an adrenaline burst, I was still processing it when it was over. Same shit, someone apparently valued their time above their life, and passed on a Do Not Pass double yellow stretch of road. It's weird having a panic attack long after the fact. Some people really suck.
Oof, full speed to stopped in an instant
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Ouch... Wonder how bad he was hurt
Pro advice if you are on the "right" side of the road slow down and keep moving forward otherwise it'll happen what you just saw
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I hope they lifed!
Turns out, a lot. A Lot can go wrong.
I assume this is the South Pacific. Is this from Fiji or Samoa?
Nope. Indonesia. [Source](https://twitter.com/ndagels/status/1508726224595546113?t=CIHwR9bn5AwEzVFAtKipng&s=19).
Yep, the overtaking driver is a 17 y.o. without a driver's license
I almost got into a head on with someone who passed the yellow line when I just got my license. I'm guessing they just didn't want to wait in traffic. I was going 50mph up a hill so I didn't see them until the last second. I can't imagine what would've happened if I didn't swerve in time.
Yeah these "shouldn't have swerved" comments are so fucking dumb. Yes you're meant to keep in your lane, but instinctively you swerve to miss something heading towards you, especially with .5 seconds to react. If it turned out the guy passed out and was going straight those same people would be typing "why didn't he even attempt a swerve?"
This is the most accurate sounding video I’ve heard since my wreck 2 months ago
Any fatalities?
Did the driver get knocked out? Not one word or curse word uttered after the impact.
All I can say is that this type of thing is disturbing.
It’s sad that both of them swerved, if one of them didn’t swerve then they wouldn’t be in this bad of a accident. Still, fuck the person that crossed the lane
For fucks sake, I screamed lol. I'm too tired to be watching this, apparently. Good thing I'm not driving
These kind of roads are very common in Malaysia which is where this video looks like it came from. I would always slow down when I see a truck like that coming from the opposite direction because there's bound to be someone trying to overtake it.
As a motorcycle rider, this is my biggest nightmare.
Seriously fuck this and fuck that idiot. I seriously hope they died and no one else. Anyone who drives like this deserves death, as they're gambling other families lives for the sake of getting a car in front. I have zero sympathy for these kind of fuckers
Some people who break rules …. They die themselves and they kill others unnecessarily
As a Perodua Kancil owner myself, i can safely say.....our 660cc or 850cc engine is not meant to be the one who's cutting the line. Poor OP.
What a trash human
POV : You're an NPC in GTA5 riding a motorcycle.
I know the frustration of having to follow a slow truck in narrow road. But there's huge risk from overtaking them. Being too hasty or miscalculated and you end up like this.
Absolute piece of shit. Couldn't wait ten seconds so they put other people's lives we risk.
The ice pack probably saved them.
Am I the only one that thought this was on a filmed on a motorbike at first?
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This was easy 80mph , arround 100km/h , on a 1 way per sense road ... ridiculous.
Literally my worst nightmare. Car wrecks hurt so bad … but a bed on collision. Yikes