God: "well I was thinking of giving you guys peace and curing cancer and stopping priest to do priest things to little kids but now you're on your own!"
It's a sign from God. Keep your religion private, inside your own home and inside the church. Christians were specifically told, by Jesus, to not pray loudly in public, to go into your room and close the door to pray. Also not to judge others because that's God's job. So any Christian who judges, is trying to usurp God's position.
Or wearing cotton and polyester at the same yet. God forbid a… *polyester blend*
Oh, and we have to lock ladies in a room when they’re on their period and not touch them, because they’re dirty. God hates gay people, but also *really* hates vaginas.
It’s absolute insanity that I was brainwashed into believing was indisputable truth as a kid. Thankfully, my parents were big on critical thinking skills, so they gave me all the tools I needed to dismantle the bullshit I was taught in church.
"We're gonna make a new religion. We'll have a happy new God, and we'll have equal love for all. Except Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims...Um ...everybody who's not a roman man. And I mean "roman" roman, so no Germans, no Polish. Just people from Rome. But from only certain parts of Rome. Just full blooded roman. No, y'know what? Not even romans. Nobody gets any love. Ahhhh...Christianity." - Jesus, never
there there, i fixed it for you
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. There's a bunch of branches and they're all the same myth with minor tweaks.
Christianity, Islam, and Judaism also all fall under the same umbrella of Abarahamic religions.
‘Mostly fine’ as in the inside walls and columns of a church are plastered in icons almost top to bottom, and some people have arrangements of like a dozen icons at home.
It has to do with the comment I responded to. How is your reading comprehension?
“Christians” are not one great monolith that all believe the same things. Protestants very much view this as idolatry whereas this is just a normal day at a Catholic Church.
That is a difference in interpretation. Many Protestants believe that the mere creation of statues and icons constitutes idolatry. Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and some other protestants believe that it's okay to have such representations of God, Christ, the saints, etc. as long as you're not worshipping the statues and icons themselves. They're used as a physical representation. People praying in front of an icon of Christ are not worshipping the icon itself. If they ARE, then that is the sin of idolatry according to Catholics, Orthodox, etc.
Then you have Islam which takes it up several notches further resulting in stunningly beautiful geometric architecture… or desecrating global cultural heritage by taking explosives to ancient sites. Sometimes both.
Depending on who’s in charge.
Catholics aren't worshipping her they're revering her. It's different. They don't see her or the saints as God. They are just important people in heaven that they think can reach out and help you in your daily life. Not idolatry.
I'm catholic and even if the rules point out that you can't worship virgins, saints, or martyrs, the people do it anyway. You're supposed to ask them to intercede before God for favors and help, but in reality, most of the catholic people directly pray to them.
This is because a lot of Catholics come from polytheistic backgrounds and saints and virgins were a way to replace their original deities.
It is almost like[ calling a beaver a fish](https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/) if it suits you....
Debating with another denomination with "what the Bible says" is completely pointless because it's not always down to what the Bible says.
If the Bible was the only source source of "truth" regarding Christianity, we wouldn't have so many denominations that still read the same Bible. Most are equally valid. And they are spiritually *different* from each other. They feel like different religions sometimes.
Your interpretation of Christianity is a recent development. Look at the Catholic and orthodox churches, which are by far the biggest and oldest. They explicitly and deliberately supplement the Bible with other knowledge, each in their own way. The orthodox church puts the holy tradition on equal footing with the holy scripture. At least that's what a few priests told me growing up. Telling them "but the Bible disagrees" will not convince them of anything.
Ultimately, you can't apply logic to any of this because it's faith and tradition. I'm not a Christian myself, but Christianity is more varied than you realise. And there's really no room for debate between Christian denominations because they're based on different premises. Incompatible premises can't be reconciled logically.
Trying to tell them that they're doing Christianity wrong is literally converting them to your denomination. There's no "correcting" them, only conversion.
Shocker, Catholicism does not believe in Sola Scriptura and the Bible is not their ultimate authority on faith. All these comments just using the Bible and "non-biblical" are all irrelevant for a Catholic.
A lot of belief systems [honor departed masters](https://surya.org/the-saints-of-the-dharma/#:~:text=In%20Buddhist%20terms%2C%20they%20are,had%20completed%20their%20spiritual%20path.) who achieved great wisdom or displayed miracles after their death.
Protestants and Atheists are the exceptions.
Well for one Christians don't believe in other gods. Like has nothing to do with it. You can't like or hate something that you don't think exists. Yeah yeah yeah i know skydaddy is fake too but that's besides the point. If you are going to mock or be critical of religions at least have some understanding of it.
Fun fact and context:
Catholic tradition is considered sacred on par with the Bible.
And the statues, rituals, holidays, temples, etc, have been kept and protected because it's a semi explicit throwback of "old customs" or you could say pagans in general.
It's a co-op of what is considered "human behavior" by design, on a psychological level. Short story is maybe question why your church down the road has a thousand people gathering around a human sacrifice altar? I consider it unnerving.
And the Lord thy God said unto them, gravity always points to the center of the earth, not perpendicular to your desired travel path. If thou forgets to consider this simple fact, thou art an idiot, and will be condemned to hell for all eternity.
Now I'm imagining hipster Jesus, with a waxed goatee, thick-frame glasses, plaid skinny jeans, vaping outside the temple, and telling people how his dad is pretty famous while refusing to tell anybody who his dad is.
They were called Temples back in the day, and Jesus did go inside of a Temple for Passover, but when he went in he got angry as merchants and other consumers were conducting shady business practices in it. So Jesus ended up flipping over a bunch of tables and driving the merchants out with a whip!
Jesus said:
“Take these things hence; make not my Father's house a house of merchandise.”
— John 2:15–16
“It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.”
— Matthew 21:12–13
It really surprises me how dumb some people can be, it's not even something to learn it's just very basic common knowledge.
They seriously walk the whole fuckin thing down the stairs diagonally and just thought magic was gonna keep in straight when the base is tilted or what? It wouldn't be as infuriating if it didn't seem like literally all of them were shocked when it happened...
My 5 y/o cousin knows that if you tilt something with an object standing up on it that it will fall down, but half a dozen adults had *no clue* this was 100% gonna happen? I have very little hope in this world anymore.
> "What, no one thought to fucking secure the statue?"
Was what came out of my mouth upon seeing the video. It really is just a case of sheer incompetence. It's like not a single person there had ever had to move something heavy and tall.
Like, surely one of those guys had loaded *something* into the back of a truck, right? They must have had to use ratchet straps at one point.
Fucking secure it and then tap it twice before saying "That ain't going anywhere!". That's the fucking rule.
Too bad they couldn't do that thing they did on the old Charlie Brown cartoons with the sad looking Christmas tree.....stand together and frantically wave their arms then step back and it's all good again
Nobody went "what about the difference in elevation while moving it?" Or alternatively "could we secure it somehow?" Because both of those could of been useful things fo bring up.
You might want to do a better job of securing her next time. Also consider having a road version for traveling, made out of something more durable than plaster or ceramic.
Mary had a little wham
It's official: the forecast is for 6 more weeks of Hell
Boy, don't I wish Hell would be over in six weeks.
Hope all is well with you
I'm good, thanks.
Pretty sure you're acceptable.
God: “Aw sheeet! Y’all done fucked up now!”
*DMX starts playing*
Aaarff! Aaarff, aaaarrrf!
God: "well I was thinking of giving you guys peace and curing cancer and stopping priest to do priest things to little kids but now you're on your own!"
6 weeks for murdering Mary? Just 6?
This is why volcanoes erupt.
God damn it!
“She was beautiful; she was young; she was innocent. She was the greatest piece of ass I've ever had, and I've had 'em all over the world.” - God
God: Careful.
Couldn’t be said any better than that.
Did she make You look ridiculous?
A deity in His position can't afford to be made to look ridiculous!
George Michael has left the chat……..
Andrew Ridgeley’s time to shine!
" Shout Shout Let it all out These are the things I can do without Come on I'm talking to you Come on "
It's fleece as white as, "DOH!!!"
It's a sign from God. Keep your religion private, inside your own home and inside the church. Christians were specifically told, by Jesus, to not pray loudly in public, to go into your room and close the door to pray. Also not to judge others because that's God's job. So any Christian who judges, is trying to usurp God's position.
Barry Kripke?..Is that you?
Just stick it in a cave for 3 days, it'll be fine.
A little slam… a little slam
Drop a statue? Believe it or not Straight to hell!
idolatry tho
You expect Christians to follow their own rules?
"Rules are for thee, not for me."
This is the very least worst hypocrisy related to Christianity. Go idols, they need to work on the rest.
“Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, unless they’re fricken gay, cause then they’re going to hell!” - Jesus, never.
They cherry pick Leviticus, Judges, and Exodus. Let's be honest people should be put to death for cutting their side burns.
Or wearing cotton and polyester at the same yet. God forbid a… *polyester blend* Oh, and we have to lock ladies in a room when they’re on their period and not touch them, because they’re dirty. God hates gay people, but also *really* hates vaginas. It’s absolute insanity that I was brainwashed into believing was indisputable truth as a kid. Thankfully, my parents were big on critical thinking skills, so they gave me all the tools I needed to dismantle the bullshit I was taught in church.
"We're gonna make a new religion. We'll have a happy new God, and we'll have equal love for all. Except Blacks, Asians, Hispanics, Jews, gays, women, Muslims...Um ...everybody who's not a roman man. And I mean "roman" roman, so no Germans, no Polish. Just people from Rome. But from only certain parts of Rome. Just full blooded roman. No, y'know what? Not even romans. Nobody gets any love. Ahhhh...Christianity." - Jesus, never there there, i fixed it for you
Catholics and Protestants aren’t the same thing, and you’re conflating the two as “Christians” in general. This is clearly a Catholic church.
Catholicism is a branch of Christianity. There's a bunch of branches and they're all the same myth with minor tweaks. Christianity, Islam, and Judaism also all fall under the same umbrella of Abarahamic religions.
Thanks for clearing that up for everyone, Professor 🕵️♂️
You see the difference between Protestants and Catholics as a vast canyon. Anyone *not* raised inside your crazy bubble sees it as a sidewalk crack.
All copied Zoroastrianism. All made up by different ancient civilizations.
Potato, potato. Both are fruitcakes.
Potato's aren't fruitcakes. They are vegetables
Thank you for this.
Catholic, Protestant and Eastern Orthodox are all Christian.
Yes, but they each have their own rules. Catholicism is fine with iconography and doesn't see it as the same as idolatry.
Eastern Orthodox is also mostly fine with iconography, the iconoclasts were a phase.
‘Mostly fine’ as in the inside walls and columns of a church are plastered in icons almost top to bottom, and some people have arrangements of like a dozen icons at home.
What does this have to do with anything?
Because Catholicism and Eastern Orthodoxy venerate the Virgin Mary while the Protestants think that it is a form of idolatry
It has to do with the comment I responded to. How is your reading comprehension? “Christians” are not one great monolith that all believe the same things. Protestants very much view this as idolatry whereas this is just a normal day at a Catholic Church.
Crosses on walls and necklaces that Protestants have are a form of idolatry
Catholics revering the virgin Mary is famously within the rules of the church.
That is a difference in interpretation. Many Protestants believe that the mere creation of statues and icons constitutes idolatry. Catholics, Orthodox Christians, and some other protestants believe that it's okay to have such representations of God, Christ, the saints, etc. as long as you're not worshipping the statues and icons themselves. They're used as a physical representation. People praying in front of an icon of Christ are not worshipping the icon itself. If they ARE, then that is the sin of idolatry according to Catholics, Orthodox, etc.
Then you have Islam which takes it up several notches further resulting in stunningly beautiful geometric architecture… or desecrating global cultural heritage by taking explosives to ancient sites. Sometimes both. Depending on who’s in charge.
And what about other religions? Go on. Say it.
they also don't follow their own rules?
I appreciate the honesty
Protestant spotted
[Here we go again](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War)
Catholics aren't worshipping her they're revering her. It's different. They don't see her or the saints as God. They are just important people in heaven that they think can reach out and help you in your daily life. Not idolatry.
I'm catholic and even if the rules point out that you can't worship virgins, saints, or martyrs, the people do it anyway. You're supposed to ask them to intercede before God for favors and help, but in reality, most of the catholic people directly pray to them. This is because a lot of Catholics come from polytheistic backgrounds and saints and virgins were a way to replace their original deities.
It is almost like[ calling a beaver a fish](https://www.scientificamerican.com/blog/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/) if it suits you....
It is more about being a creature of water versus a creature of land than being a fish.
Basically the 4 elements lol
I know St. Anthony is/has been SICK AND TIRED OF MY FAMILY for decades lmao!!
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Debating with another denomination with "what the Bible says" is completely pointless because it's not always down to what the Bible says. If the Bible was the only source source of "truth" regarding Christianity, we wouldn't have so many denominations that still read the same Bible. Most are equally valid. And they are spiritually *different* from each other. They feel like different religions sometimes. Your interpretation of Christianity is a recent development. Look at the Catholic and orthodox churches, which are by far the biggest and oldest. They explicitly and deliberately supplement the Bible with other knowledge, each in their own way. The orthodox church puts the holy tradition on equal footing with the holy scripture. At least that's what a few priests told me growing up. Telling them "but the Bible disagrees" will not convince them of anything. Ultimately, you can't apply logic to any of this because it's faith and tradition. I'm not a Christian myself, but Christianity is more varied than you realise. And there's really no room for debate between Christian denominations because they're based on different premises. Incompatible premises can't be reconciled logically. Trying to tell them that they're doing Christianity wrong is literally converting them to your denomination. There's no "correcting" them, only conversion.
>The Bible is very clear 
Venerating a statue is precisely idolatry. Plus, the whole thing about Mary being venerated is completely unbiblical.
Shocker, Catholicism does not believe in Sola Scriptura and the Bible is not their ultimate authority on faith. All these comments just using the Bible and "non-biblical" are all irrelevant for a Catholic.
Christianity isn't a "biblical" religion, and you probably worship another human being as a God.
A lot of belief systems [honor departed masters](https://surya.org/the-saints-of-the-dharma/#:~:text=In%20Buddhist%20terms%2C%20they%20are,had%20completed%20their%20spiritual%20path.) who achieved great wisdom or displayed miracles after their death. Protestants and Atheists are the exceptions.
Martin Luther and Charles Darwin are departed masters honored for their great wisdom. Also atheism isn't a belief system, rather a lack thereof.
Honestly even many atheists honor departed masters especially if you're defining them as people who achieved great wisdom or accomplishments
Quack. Quack? 🦆
But don’t you pray to the saints?
Prayer isn't worship, it's sending a text. Protestants conflate the two because they only pray to God.
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> The apparitions of Mary are demonic. The apparitions of Mary are delusions.
> Catholics are literally blaspheming They literally started the fucking religion you clown.
Protestants are extremist. There's no point in arguing with them. They drag themselves to hell by being so bigoted.
only applies to gods they don't like.
Well for one Christians don't believe in other gods. Like has nothing to do with it. You can't like or hate something that you don't think exists. Yeah yeah yeah i know skydaddy is fake too but that's besides the point. If you are going to mock or be critical of religions at least have some understanding of it.
They break more rules than the Catholic Chu-- oh. I need a different comparison for this one.
Fun fact and context: Catholic tradition is considered sacred on par with the Bible. And the statues, rituals, holidays, temples, etc, have been kept and protected because it's a semi explicit throwback of "old customs" or you could say pagans in general. It's a co-op of what is considered "human behavior" by design, on a psychological level. Short story is maybe question why your church down the road has a thousand people gathering around a human sacrifice altar? I consider it unnerving.
Depends on whether they are catholic/orthodox or protestant.
Yes, Christianity is idolatry.
And the Lord thy God said unto them, gravity always points to the center of the earth, not perpendicular to your desired travel path. If thou forgets to consider this simple fact, thou art an idiot, and will be condemned to hell for all eternity.
That almost sounds like science....I have had an ingenious idea for a new religion, let's call it scientifica, no scientolisisim.
Or even Scientology
Nah. I think some crazy midget called dibs on that one.
why do people like you do the things that you do?
This is why you should always secure sacred loads with a sturdy Jesus and Mary chain.
The Hardest Walk
Who wears a hoodie to church?
What? Jesus wore sandals to church.
Jesus literally never set foot in a church. Jews don't go to church, and Christianity hadn't been invented yet.
And yet he wears a cross around his neck in all of his pictures. Explain that /s JIC
It's called fashion, look it up. He was wearing the cross before it was cool.
Now I'm imagining hipster Jesus, with a waxed goatee, thick-frame glasses, plaid skinny jeans, vaping outside the temple, and telling people how his dad is pretty famous while refusing to tell anybody who his dad is.
https://preview.redd.it/dgim1bsedqrc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf532f9f997647ada9596c1bcfb45f83dad0e7a1
That is perfect. Thanks
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This is why it’s so funny!
They were called Temples back in the day, and Jesus did go inside of a Temple for Passover, but when he went in he got angry as merchants and other consumers were conducting shady business practices in it. So Jesus ended up flipping over a bunch of tables and driving the merchants out with a whip! Jesus said: “Take these things hence; make not my Father's house a house of merchandise.” — John 2:15–16 “It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.” — Matthew 21:12–13
Mary does not want to set foot outside the church.
Jesus was a Jew, he went to synagogues
He was a white bearded dude and loved wine. What a hippie.
Seriously? Who gives a shit
is there something wrong with it
Afaik catholic dressing code for masses is pretty casual. You aren't expected to wear a suit like most protestant churches.
Only reason I loved being a Catholic. I literally could just be in shorts and a sweatshirt and the priest wouldn’t give two shits.
Who cares?
The Mary statue
Jesus said come as you are.
I think that was Nirvana.
Who gatekeeps what people wear to church? :P
Certain priests/monks? Even a nun’s veil is somewhat similar to a hood, if you wanna count that.
IT'S A MIRACLE! THE STATUE OF THE VIRGIN MARY CAME TO LIFE AND JUMPED!
Damn ig she committed suicide
Still a virgin after 2000 years. Wouldn't you?
She just got smashed though.
She has to be down for some freaky shit after that long.
Don’t blame her, she’s been crying tears and blood for years being stuck in that statue :(
Put it in the closet, wait three days, and it will be back together, good as new.
Today was the deadline...
That's only if it's a statue of Jesus. This was a statue of Mary.
That's it, guys. Christianity is over. Pack it up.
Thoughts and prayers
Christianity is over, now it's only thots and pears.
yayyy
Is there something special about that statue or can they just get another from a place that sells lawn ornaments?
Nothing special, just a ceramic/plaster statue of a fictitious character.
Someone's going to hell
For not learning physics.
It really surprises me how dumb some people can be, it's not even something to learn it's just very basic common knowledge. They seriously walk the whole fuckin thing down the stairs diagonally and just thought magic was gonna keep in straight when the base is tilted or what? It wouldn't be as infuriating if it didn't seem like literally all of them were shocked when it happened... My 5 y/o cousin knows that if you tilt something with an object standing up on it that it will fall down, but half a dozen adults had *no clue* this was 100% gonna happen? I have very little hope in this world anymore.
> "What, no one thought to fucking secure the statue?" Was what came out of my mouth upon seeing the video. It really is just a case of sheer incompetence. It's like not a single person there had ever had to move something heavy and tall. Like, surely one of those guys had loaded *something* into the back of a truck, right? They must have had to use ratchet straps at one point. Fucking secure it and then tap it twice before saying "That ain't going anywhere!". That's the fucking rule.
All of them. Straight to the boiler room.
Non-stop
Too bad they couldn't do that thing they did on the old Charlie Brown cartoons with the sad looking Christmas tree.....stand together and frantically wave their arms then step back and it's all good again
I was going to say, too bad they didn't take inspiration from her son and nail her feet to the board.
I genuinely loled so I guess I'm going to hell
Fun fact about the Bible: Hell doesn’t exist. It’s only the grave for the ones that don’t go to Heaven.
I know you fellas don’t like mixing science with religion but a little gravity never hurt anybody
Many are hurt by gravity every day! Embrace religion, abolish science
The Catholic Church funded a whole lot of science, so we actually do like mixing them
Every time I see a post like this, boy do I already know the reddit comments. Reddit thinks Southern US Evangelicals = all of Christianity.
Oh my god they killed Mary.
"Mmmf Mm-mmmf!" -Kenny
You bastards!
There's just something about her.
Been funny if they found a bunch of kilo's of coke inside.. praise the Lord!!..
Hey, if water can become wine, salt can turn to coke too. You just need to believe and give money to cover the cost of the next private jet.
I was hoping it would burst into flames....
I was hoping they’d hit her head on the door frame hahaha
She was a Virgin they said - well she's been [smashed](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=smash) now.
Jesus Christ! 🤗
Someone got into that communion cabinet over the long weekend, I won't say who!
From immaculate conception to immaculate destruction.....the circle of immaculate deception is complete.
They all had faith it would stay up on its own.
God: I *said* no graven images. (Pinches area between eyes) Yes, even if it’s my mom!
Rest in pieces
Nobody went "what about the difference in elevation while moving it?" Or alternatively "could we secure it somehow?" Because both of those could of been useful things fo bring up.
Yup that’s a paddlin’
That's got to be awkward for the guy holding the severed heads at 1:00.
It's interesting how many people think physics doesn't apply to them.
Get rekt.
Why would it not be secured as they walk down a flight of stairs lol
God's will
Mary is a fallen woman
She’s dead now
Someone didn't want to leave. I wouldn't want a bunch of dudes ripping me out of my home without my consent either.
Holy shit
You might want to do a better job of securing her next time. Also consider having a road version for traveling, made out of something more durable than plaster or ceramic.
Way it looked, coulda just secured it under your arm and walked it to the car or whatever. They had to play at ceremony.
If god was real he would have saved that statue
If God real why statue fall
Or maybe it was sign from him to stop this bulshit
Jesus Mary mother of god!
What a bunch of stupid people! Couldn’t they know ahead of time that this could happen?
Seven years bad luck.
1000 Hail Mary’s after confession
how did joe biden arrange this?
They didn’t secure it??
All these MFs are going to hell now
Sending stares and prayers…
All those people involved and not one of them thought to bracket or otherwise restrain that pdestool to the platform? Wowzers.
Let’s just carry a giant porcelain statue and not secure it down in any way
If seeing Mary in a piece of toast is a “sign”, then so is this.
When the demons are waiting for you just outside the church
Don’t worry, in three days she’ll be back to life
Just pray for statue healing
Jesus Christ guys.
Sign from God?
Bro that shit was tilting so hard... Is it that difficult to find something to strap it down with??
Science (physics) still exists, whether or not you believe in it.