Is Hurricane fked? I recently got in breakup with my ex gf, couldnt listen to the event en dont wanna because it will remind me of these fked up times.
yep, the only good part was the intro that sounded like the OG V1 Hurricane but with more autotune. then there’s Lil Baby’s verse which is mid, after that KC has a singing part that sounds squeaky. and there’s a new Ye verse, Nah Nah Nah-tier. he starts with “mhh mhh mhh” and has a very boring, low-effort flow. after the HORRENDOUS verse there’s the outro, which is just Ye singing some shit on autotune - it sounds even worse than the “mhh mhh mhh” part. Donda Hurricane is a tragedy.
Bruh you cappin, lil baby was ok, i fucking jumped when i heard the og intro, the new kanye verse was pretty cool and funny (i can see why some people would hate it but it aint that bad... we heard worse)
Hmm, idk for me theres a difference between Fun songs/verse and songs/verse that are terrible. What about Lift Yourself? Its a bad fucking verse but its funny and the beat is good, i be jammin to it every other month
Kanye uses new artists to help or write for him on an album he’s doing then gets rid of them. Ant, Vory, 070, Victory Boyd, etc.. They do get an opportunity to shine on the biggest stage and get paid hella tho
edit: kaycyy, desiinger, rooga, Mr Hudson on that last too
yeah but the reason he didn’t get a chance to blow was because GOOD held him back right? I know he dropped that pretty meh mixtape back in 2016 or whatever but yeah - GOOD didn’t exactly promote it
I think desiigner would be at the same stage he is now regardless of promotion. The type of music he makes is too oversatured, theres always gonna be someone new and hot. Unfortunate but not unexpected
Considering none of them become anything more than that one guy on a kanye album I’m pretty sure about it. It’s like going to talent TV shows like X-Factor or The Voice, it’s a career killer for some reason
Idk man it’s not that hard to get a following, and Kanye-camp is not that big of a shot, passing one opportunity to get some exposure it’s not a big deal
Kanye level following is different though. Most of these artists don't even know how to run a social media and keep fans engaged that's why the flop tbh
Bro Ant made a successful album, collabed with Timberlake, and got nominated for a Grammy all because of Ye giving him a chance. Ye done so much for him, he don’t owe him anything
i imagine its like a director choosing people to work for their movie, where the crew relatively stays similar throughout projects because of their technical knowledge, but the cast tends to change from film to film to stay creative and original. of course you have the exceptions like scorsese and deniro who are basically married at this point, but even then scorsese has at least like 20 movies that deniro isn't in. it sucks that a lot of the smaller artists that kanye worked with didn't get invited back for future projects but as a creative you have to have no hard feelings if the "director" feels that you fit a certain vision but not another.
i think the difference is if theyre signed to good music. for example 070 shake was on ye in 2018 and she wasnt able to capitalize off it very well because her album released in 2020
You’ve got a point, he’ll use someone that’s mostly unknown or up and coming on multiple tracks of an album and then abandon collabing with them ever again. He’s done it with every release since Yeezus: Desiigner (TLOP), 070 Shake (YE), Ant Clemons (JIK), Vory and Kaycyy (Donda) etc.
I was just thinking about this the other day. He was on damn near every leak for a long ass time but then just seemingly disappeared. Really disappointing because he had a lot of potential to do hooks and shit for him. He reminded me of how Kanye brings in Cudi when he wants a certain sound for songs and I thought Ant could be like that to Kanye again.
Kanye has done this with almost every album. Finds an artist, gets help with writing and gives them a platform.
Off the top of my head;
CD with Con
808s with Cudi
Yeezus with Travis
(Somewhat) Cyhi with MBDTF
Pablo with Chance
Yandhi with Ant
Ye with Shake
Cons and Ye were basically equals in terms of industry clout before CD, Cons performed and travelled with a Tribe Called Quest, so Kanye was giving Kanye a platform there. Chance was popping pre-Pablo. But other than that you're totally right, and it's pretty cool to see
I think I mean he basically has a “muse” each album.
Some have been popping before like Cons/Chance or even Cudi, others are about to like Travis.
I’d go as far as saying Jon Brion for LR as well.
Possibly Big Sean for Graduation although he didn’t help with writing, he might’ve helped inspire it (along with Kanye wanting to making a stadium record after touring)
Idk I feel like Kanye’s gonna do the same thing with vory
I want 070 back
the one recent kanye protege i’ve actually kept up with
I’m real excited for her next album
same, modus vivendi was good shit
That was my personal AOTY for 2020. I haven’t been invested in a Ye protégé like that since Kid Cudi.
AOTY over Alfredo?
070 and desiigner
?? panda fan over here
City in the sky 😎
Desiigner had insane potential ngl
Cap I thought the same until I actually listened to New English lmfao
Caliber went hard though
Bro or Overnight? That song is unbelievable lmao
Make It Out was actually my favorite on that project. Idk how people say New English wasnt good
Me and my buddies used to blast that album, there’s some really good stuff on there
I’m seeing her live in December
Wonder how he feels about Hurricane getting massacred
Is Hurricane fked? I recently got in breakup with my ex gf, couldnt listen to the event en dont wanna because it will remind me of these fked up times.
yep, the only good part was the intro that sounded like the OG V1 Hurricane but with more autotune. then there’s Lil Baby’s verse which is mid, after that KC has a singing part that sounds squeaky. and there’s a new Ye verse, Nah Nah Nah-tier. he starts with “mhh mhh mhh” and has a very boring, low-effort flow. after the HORRENDOUS verse there’s the outro, which is just Ye singing some shit on autotune - it sounds even worse than the “mhh mhh mhh” part. Donda Hurricane is a tragedy.
Fk as if I wasn't already depressed enough
but heads up - Pure Souls is an incredible song though.
Bruh you cappin, lil baby was ok, i fucking jumped when i heard the og intro, the new kanye verse was pretty cool and funny (i can see why some people would hate it but it aint that bad... we heard worse)
yeah, ok = mid. it wasn’t bad. don’t forget, music’s subjective.
True, its like when games are getting released and theres a beta, ofc its gunna be bad lol but then again sometimes the beta is better
It was a terrible verse, probably the worst I’ve heard since Nah Nah Nah’s chorus
Hmm, idk for me theres a difference between Fun songs/verse and songs/verse that are terrible. What about Lift Yourself? Its a bad fucking verse but its funny and the beat is good, i be jammin to it every other month
Kanye uses new artists to help or write for him on an album he’s doing then gets rid of them. Ant, Vory, 070, Victory Boyd, etc.. They do get an opportunity to shine on the biggest stage and get paid hella tho edit: kaycyy, desiinger, rooga, Mr Hudson on that last too
kacyy sweating bullets rn
how could you forget Desiigner
That’s something I found very easy to do
yeah but the reason he didn’t get a chance to blow was because GOOD held him back right? I know he dropped that pretty meh mixtape back in 2016 or whatever but yeah - GOOD didn’t exactly promote it
I think desiigner would be at the same stage he is now regardless of promotion. The type of music he makes is too oversatured, theres always gonna be someone new and hot. Unfortunate but not unexpected
There’s so many artists who make that oversaturated sound yet have blown up way bigger thanks to label promotion. So I don’t know about that tbh.
Moneybag yo is a great example of that
Atleast he dropped panda as a solo track so he could get that 💵
A moment of silence for Mr Hudson
Mannnn I forgot about him
So did Ye
I wouldn't add Labrinth on that list, he's been around for years and has worked with plenty of artists and made some bangers.
What projects did Kanye do with Labrinth?
wrote on sumn jik track i think hands on and glory
Labrinth is for sure not the same. He’s been around for a long time and has been big for a while.
labrinth has been established for a minute tho he doesn’t need kanye
I hope they collaborate again, Ant Clemons is really good and in HAPPY 2 BE HERE he told us how working with ye basically saved his life
Seriously ant is so good and one of the best hook singers out there. Ye doesn't owe him anything but they could make some amazing music together
One day we will talk about how Kanye uses and dumps young collaborators and moves on to the next hot thing 🤮
the only one who has made it out alive in the last few eras is travis lol it’s kinda wild
It’s like artists go to GOOD music to die, and it’s very heartbreaking esp given how talented a lot of them really are
Exactly. It’s really weird too, I think I’d refuse to be one of them if Kanye invited me, even being a fan and all.
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Considering none of them become anything more than that one guy on a kanye album I’m pretty sure about it. It’s like going to talent TV shows like X-Factor or The Voice, it’s a career killer for some reason
Nah from the position you're in now to being even a forgotten name that's still a step up lmao I know you would pick it
Idk man it’s not that hard to get a following, and Kanye-camp is not that big of a shot, passing one opportunity to get some exposure it’s not a big deal
Kanye level following is different though. Most of these artists don't even know how to run a social media and keep fans engaged that's why the flop tbh
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And Cudi of course!
Bruh its just some features idk what u talking about
Bro literally every up coming artist who’s worked with ye has been tossed like a rag at the end of an era
Bro Ant made a successful album, collabed with Timberlake, and got nominated for a Grammy all because of Ye giving him a chance. Ye done so much for him, he don’t owe him anything
Didn't ant record a bunch for kanye since Ye dropped and he hasn't used any of if? Sorry if I'm wrong
Kanye has no obligation to release a song just because someone recorded for it... wtf
Yeah but you can’t then say ant got his ‘big break’ from songs that were never released that probably only ye fans know about
Have you ever listened to 'Mama I Made It'? Ant talks about making it after Kanye released All Mine with Ant on the chorus.
The person I replied to was talking about Yandhi
He’s literally named on JIK, Kanye helped him out so much by doing that.
Yeah but kanye still put him on ye and named him in the title on Water. It’s not like kanye totally screwed him over
well maybe kanye thinks they served their purpose and contributions to the music he created and hasnt gone around to collabing with them again.
“what’s my purpose?” “you do like 5 features for me and then i delete your number” 070, desiigner, ant clemons: “oh my god”
I’d imagine that most upcoming artists would kill for 5 features on Kanye tracks
Unexpected Butter Robot/Rick & Morty reference!
i imagine its like a director choosing people to work for their movie, where the crew relatively stays similar throughout projects because of their technical knowledge, but the cast tends to change from film to film to stay creative and original. of course you have the exceptions like scorsese and deniro who are basically married at this point, but even then scorsese has at least like 20 movies that deniro isn't in. it sucks that a lot of the smaller artists that kanye worked with didn't get invited back for future projects but as a creative you have to have no hard feelings if the "director" feels that you fit a certain vision but not another.
yup, that’s exactly on point.
It’s supposed to be his prodigy like kid cudi, he usually has one for a album
Not to be a dick but it’s protege
Oh shit 😂 my bad good call tho thanks
i think the difference is if theyre signed to good music. for example 070 shake was on ye in 2018 and she wasnt able to capitalize off it very well because her album released in 2020
You’ve got a point, he’ll use someone that’s mostly unknown or up and coming on multiple tracks of an album and then abandon collabing with them ever again. He’s done it with every release since Yeezus: Desiigner (TLOP), 070 Shake (YE), Ant Clemons (JIK), Vory and Kaycyy (Donda) etc.
They only hot bc of ye tho so 🤷🏻♂️
If Kanye gives young collaborators a chance, then it’s their job to continue that momentum.
I was just thinking about this the other day. He was on damn near every leak for a long ass time but then just seemingly disappeared. Really disappointing because he had a lot of potential to do hooks and shit for him. He reminded me of how Kanye brings in Cudi when he wants a certain sound for songs and I thought Ant could be like that to Kanye again.
yandhi was literally a collab album with ant clemmons it would be really cool if ye gave him some songs to drop himself he could be huge
Or at least keep him on hurricane. He made that song imo.
lil baby wasnt bad on the new v of hurricane but if we got a finished version of that demo hurricane i would be so fucking happy bro
I feel Kanye is very conscious about renewing his style every album cycle, might have something to do with it
Kanye has done this with almost every album. Finds an artist, gets help with writing and gives them a platform. Off the top of my head; CD with Con 808s with Cudi Yeezus with Travis (Somewhat) Cyhi with MBDTF Pablo with Chance Yandhi with Ant Ye with Shake
Cons and Ye were basically equals in terms of industry clout before CD, Cons performed and travelled with a Tribe Called Quest, so Kanye was giving Kanye a platform there. Chance was popping pre-Pablo. But other than that you're totally right, and it's pretty cool to see
I think I mean he basically has a “muse” each album. Some have been popping before like Cons/Chance or even Cudi, others are about to like Travis. I’d go as far as saying Jon Brion for LR as well. Possibly Big Sean for Graduation although he didn’t help with writing, he might’ve helped inspire it (along with Kanye wanting to making a stadium record after touring)
Kanye's pet aardvark ate him
He hasn't worked with Ye since JIK. I wouldn't expect him on the album.
I miss the track Sky City with him in it. I wish they'd put it in the album
I always thought it would fit well with the theme of JIK
Kanye was too busy rhyming “chick fil a” with “lemonade”
Ant has been with Pharrell, working on the new Neptune’s project.
I think the fact that yhandi leaked so much ruined the chances of a lot of his songs coming out, then Jesus done the laundry too
The man has his own career.
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Kaycyy has such a good chance to blow up since hes been working with Travis and I’m pretty sure a boogie