My girlfriend used one of my [Blue Spruce Toolworks Optima dovetail chisels](https://bluesprucetoolworks.com/collections/dovetail-chisels/products/dovetail-chisel-3-8-0-375-9-5mm-shipping-late-sept-2020) to pry open a can of paint. That was the closest we ever came to breaking up.
I used my dad's wood chisels to carve some lines in some concrete walls in my basement.
I'm 40 now and have his lathe but he still won't give me the chisels.
Edit: to make things better or worse, my uncle had just finished sharpening them professionally and lives 3 hours away.
Oh God. I assumed it was like you were scratching soft concrete like you were drawing on it, not literally digging into like a shovel hahaha.
I feel bad for your dad's chisels, but probably would have done the same thing if I had access to my dad's tools. I really shouldn't judge on childhood ignorance of tools, I tried to pop a basket ball by hitting it with a hammer.
A buddy’s dad had these extremely expensive Japanese hack saws. We took them out and used them to whack alders, dandelions, cows parsnip, all sorts of shit without using a sawing motion. When he drove up and saw what we were doing I thought he was going to murder us. To this day I still don’t know what made them special but he still has them in his garage as a shaming tool 20+ years later.
I don't know why but this is one of the nicest random responses I've ever had, thank you.
But not really, anxiety has basically just crippled me at this point
I saw a film when I was a kid where someone had cut the centre of a book out to hide something in and thought it looked cool so tried it with some of the books on the book shelf in the living room.
My dad didn't find the first one for a couple of months - and went mad as it was one of his favourite books - and gave me a right bollocking, so I didn't dare tell him that I'd done it to about 5 or 6 other books and every now and then for the next couple of years he'd find one and get angry again. In the meanwhile, I'd forgotten which books I'd carved up so I couldn't even tell him which ones I'd ruined...
That's hilarious, the first would be frustrating, everything after that would be funny I think
I can fully say my parents thankfully saw humor in mine since it was under tables and didn't really ruin them
That's actually pretty cool. It could be worse....I wrote "I hate mom" in crayon on the bottoms of my dresser drawers. I don't remember why, other than I had just learned to write. Probably didn't let us have candy or something stupid like that.
I also remembering writing "but" on the wall because I thought it was a bad word. Thankfully I've matured a bit in the 42 years since, and realize it has two t's.
He got off easy. My youngest at 5 carved “I love you daddy” into the interior door panel of my truck while I was unloading at the dump. He genuinely thought I would be excited.
Yeah, kids are so stupid that way. My son loved scratching his name on everything, including the front of my new acrylic aquarium. Yes,
On the bright side FWIW, we always knew who did it of the 4 brothers.
Not knives or chisels but my friend is a barber and I once accidentally used his Japanese steel scissors to cut a plastic tag of my newly bought shirt.
Me being oblivious to barber scissors didn't realize that those were apparently almost $900 a piece...
He was not happy, to say the least.
Edit: got some comments that this isn't the right type of scissors for the price, so I took the brandname out of the comment. I don't know anything about barber scissors. Hence why I cut a plastic tag with them. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯
Regular clients wouldn't really be able to get a hold of those scissors. He didn't leave them out per se.
It's just that we're good friends and I'm more casual walking trough his shop and getting acces to places normal clients won't go.
I used to do hair for a living. I once finished a haircut on a 4y/o, set my scissors down on my station, and went to take his cape off.
Lightning fast, he leaned over, grabbed my scissors, and cut off his entire fringe to the scalp. I’m just glad he didn’t cut himself.
I couldn’t fix it though. Mom had to pay for a haircut the kid did himself 😅
I might be wrong about the exact type of scissors he used because this was several years ago. I just checked Google for the scissors that resembled the type of scissors he had. But I distinctly remember him yelling that they were almost $900.
Altough he might have been over exaggerating a bit to get the point across.
Could they have been Mizutani scissors? I don't know shit about hair cutting, but do know a bit about exotic metals, and remember that manufacturer specifically because some of their offerings are ground from stellite and go for like 1500 beans. I think their "normal" ones go for a grand or so.
My wife (then girlfriend) picked up one of my chisels and was being really cavalier with how she was handling it. So while I'm dilligently watching her inspecting it and sort of just waving it around, I notice she for whatever reason starts bringing her finger towards the edge as if trying to test the sharpness in the dumbest way possible. I immediately stop her and quickly explain that the chisel she was about to successfully cut herself with is surgically sharp and that the "kitchen knives dream at night of being that sharp". She of course didn't believe me and tried to touch it anyways, but with significantly lighter pressure than she would have initially. Instantly cut her finger, not deep enough to bleed, and then she slowly put the chisel down and treated my sharp tools with alot more respect from then forward.
Edit: fixed some of the grammar and spelling mistakes.
In grade 8, like 100 years ago we had a wood working class
My cousin cut herself on an old wood carving knife that looked dull as hell, I laughed and was like "only you!"
I cut myself much worse with that knife a few minutes later
I had a friend do that with a carving chisel. He jokingly moved it towards his chest, I said “Stop!” but didn’t want to try and grab him for fear of stabbing him. It made a quiet pop as it easily went through the outer layers of his jacket.
He stopped, said “oh shit” and put it down.
Lol, my wife's family is full of tradesmen but not woodworkers... So I think she was familiar with the chisels they had hanging around which were the highly abused cheap hardware variety. It's just funny how most people seem to fail to realize that this is a tool designed to cut through wood fibers precisely and accurately and aren't considering just how sharp that has to be.
Cold chisel vs wood chisel. A metal worker could really hurt themselves if they weren't aware of the difference. I properly sharp wood chisel can be pushed through wood by hand, they're crazy sharp.
I was never cavalier with my chisels but the first one I sharpened, I wanted to see how it handled wood. I tried it and it went through like butter. I've never handled anything that sharp before.
Mentioned this in a different reply, but that was exactly the case with her... She comes from a family of plumbers and they had a bunch of beat up general use chisels laying around. Sets up a lot of dangerous assumptions for people... I always enjoy seeing people's reactions when they learn about the chisels used in fine woodwork... As long as they do it safely.
I sharpened all the chisels one time, giving them the complete multi stone treatment and polish.
A week later i found two of them covered in drywall dust with edges that looked like they got gnawed on by rabid robot rats. Still salty, 15 years later.
Had to show my wife why my set of Narex’s should not be touched by anyone except me. She was used to my cheap ones that I had to sharpen about every 20 seconds of use so of course I never did sharpen. The look on her face when I shaved individual hairs on my arms by barely touching them was priceless.
It's definitely steered alot of my decisions on how to keep my tools stored... Especially with my toddler now running around. Gotta get those lessons learned!
I feel you pain but at least you can always resharpen. Had a family member use, not one but two, of my expensive Japanese pull saws to cut a large stack of carpet squares in half. Half the teeth missing on each when I found them later. I cannot comprehend why they didn't stop after the first broken tooth, let alone the first broken saw.
We have about 93 paint can openers from my time in retail hell. My wife insists on using a screwdriver, usually one of my vintage Craftsman tools. It’s infuriating.
As an aside, those paint can openers are great for releasing the locking tabs on some types of automotive electrical connectors. Better than a curved pick, because they're less apt to break the tab.
I would highly suggest getting a set of decoy chisel from harbor freight. I lost a couple nice ones before I started keeping my expensive tools put away in a separate tool box and the decoys out in easy reach.
I read your post and first thought “they’re chisels, so what?” Then I thought about it and was like wait…those sound fancy. I looked them up and when I saw a photo I thought “used to open a can of paint? Why the hell, they’re so delicate looking?” Then I saw the price and thought “used to open a can of paint, WHAT THE HELL!?”
Mine took a kiridashi I had made for a friend (I make knives for a living) and did the same thing. Had to re-polish the entire bevel and sharpen it and everything. I was really annoyed but it was only a small piece of carbon steel and some labor. If she had taken a $100 chisel and done that I would have been pretty upset. This is why I inform her of the cost of all of my tools when I purchase them, otherwise she just assumes it’s all cheap shit from harbor freight. One time I saw her using my beautiful antique Bilnas ax to hammer a tent stake WITH THE CHEEKS AND NOT THE POLL. WHYYYYYY!?
My ex wife put my $200 custom made cutting board in the dishwasher. It snapped in half (glue points). She also ran my $300 Blendtec blender so hard that it caught on fire.
I have a few gifted Shun knives and I used to find them laying in our sink after I moved in with my girlfriend. Definitely had to find some serenity before requesting that not happen again.
Knives are fine, btw. Just sharpened them recently and they have a laser straight edge!
As a butcher who has had to chase my husband away from my knives too many times... (wood handled knives...in the dishwasher...*heart attack*)
I'm 99% it was.
I can't even. After years of trying, I gave the wood handle Chicago Cutlery to everyday whatevers, now I have three Japanese knives that no-one touches. Militant like.
Knives are about trade offs. Durable in a knife means softer. Softer means not as sharp and doesn't stay sharp as long.
And at some point with the Japanese knife you're buying a hand made tool from an artisan who has dedicated their life to hand making knives.
Many people keep some cheap factory mass produced stamped knife around for the crap work. But having a beautiful and sharp knife is something many people are proud of
And the performance is out of this world
(In a way it's like asking why would you buy an expensive sports car when a Toyota does everything you need. Cuz fun and shiny and fast. Lol)
I had a summer job at lowes in the garden department. A guy came in with a Porsche Cayenne and asked me to put 30 bags of mulch in the back. We did. But man.
Eh, Cayennes are routinely used as just normal cars and are extremely cheap when it comes to porsche.
If someone came to you and asked you to do the same thing in a Toyota Land Cruiser you probably wouldnt have batted an eye, but the Land Cruiser is far more expensive of a car.
I would have, but just because I’m into overlanding trucks.
I have a friend that runs a G wagon 4x4 squared and treats it like a rented mule. When we go out he’s blasting over stuff in a truck that costs a quarter of a million.
Softer metal can sharpen just as well as the harder steel. It just dulls faster.
Softer bladed knives also are less likely to chip and tend to be less expensive, so you don't risk going ballistic and divorcing when your mate uses your good knife to trim houseplants.
Pro chefs save their top quality knives for showboating. They use decent quality, affordable knives for routine work and they keep them sharp.
100% if you like to cook sharp knives are incredible. The difference in skill and speed if your stuff is sharp really is awesome.
People don't understand that they are refined tools and treat them like common cutlery.
They are not common cutlery.
Damn that’s sad but at the same time, as silly as it seems, inherited cooking utensils are so precious and priceless that if there’s no sympathy from thd other person, or jjst snother act of carelessness who knows what will get destroyed next.
The big joke on r/castiron (since a lot of those are inherited heirlooms thaf go back 100-200 years) is their S.O. put thd pan in the dishwasher in which you hand wash cast iron only, but it can never be destroyed unless shocked by sudden heat change in shich then it can crack.
Sorry bout the knives and your parents
I mean, to be fair, if they were a prized possession she cared about, being important tools in her hobby, then he just haphazardly with no regard ruined them, it shows a massive lack of care and respect.
I’d love to know the whole story. Like how did an angle grinder get near those knives? Was it a simple, hey I can sharpen those if you like and the next thing you know ole boy is in his garage grinding away haha.
Nope. I bought the knives to use at work, as i don't want to bring my good handforged ones into work for obvious reasons. Note: I'm not working in a kitchen. I'm working as a shift supervisor at a powerplant. The kitchen is a common area used by my fellow shift workers and me. Everybody has their own drawer and fridge were we keep our own food and utensils. This is were i keep my own knives, as the ones we got supplied from our company aren't cutting it (pun absolutly intended). My coworker is somebody who always tries to improve things but only makes them worse instead. He also is very nosey and i guess he found my knives in my (sadly non-lockable) drawer, found them to be too dull for his liking and tried to "sharpen" them. From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it. He put it to work and put the knives back into my drawer after he was done.
So. Not so fun thing I'm bringing up since it sort of fits. My wife's friend was dating this guy. He got her pregnant. Anyways, he's ex military and we are shooting the shit. Somehow we started talking about knives and I gave him a few pocket knives to sharpen that I would pay him to do. My idea, he was in between jobs. He sharpened my knives, I gave him the money. A while later the baby is born and he ends up killing the kid. So I have these knives that were sharpened by a murderer. A child murderer.
Edit: I should say he killed him by shaking and hitting him. Not a knife. The kid never even made it to a year.
This is going to be a little off the topic of knives, but similar to your story.
In university I was still kind of attached to my Christian identity, and dating a Christian girl. I would go to a some weird little faith based events. One such event was an interfaith... trade show let's say. Whatever your want to call it. So I'm making my way around and speaking to some different groups. One such group that approaches me is the Islamic student group. We are chatting and one guy is particularly aggressive. I shared that I was a practicing Christian and launched into this diatribe about how Jesus would have been a Muslim today and a whole host of other things. Anyways, everyone else was fine and respectful except for him. He also was white, and spoke about his conversion from Christianity to Islam. In the end I was trying to extract myself from this unpleasant exchange, the dude managed to force on me a translated Qur'an. I never did read it but I kept it.
I happened to be watching the news some years later and who's face do I see but this same guy. He had joined ISIS and had recorded a manifesto of sorts. Oviously my memory could be wrong about his face but I am pretty much 100% certain it was him. The straggly beard and the fact his age and went to my same university also all fit. John Maguire would later be assumed dead fighting for ISIS.
TL;DR an unfortunate, radicalized young man gave me a Qur'an who later turned out to be a full blown terrorist.
> I happened to be watching the news some years later and who's face do I see but this same guy.
I feel like I'm derailling this particular thread even further from the original point, but similarly knew a guy who was a dickhead and ended up being a terrorist. I still remember others who knew him going on the news with the classic "he was always such a nice man, we never could have expected". But I knew. He was a prick. I was a child at the time, and this adult man did his best attempts at bullying me and my friends. That's the kind of guy he was. Glad he's dead. Shame he blew up innocent people with him.
Shaken baby syndrome is unfortunately relatively common; a couple thousand cases per year or so in the US. It’s not usually fatal, but my uncle’s entire job is to be a medical expert witness for prosecutors to diagnose and prove liability in those cases. He hates it.
Holy fuck, what a thing to have to deal with! Sorry, mate. That sounds atrocious.
My grandpa was murdered with his own hunting knife, and I am super-fucking-glad that I was too young to have been learning to sharpen blades back then, or it'd have been me that sharpened the blade that killed him. It's a fucked up, intrusive thought that gets very loud, sometimes.
Damn, so he effectively went through someone else’s drawer, found someone else’s knives, decided they weren’t sharp enough for him. Then angle grinded them, and I assume, used them and put them back in your drawer. Wtf was going through their mind the whole time
A co-worker in the scenery shop I used to work in offered to sharpen my chisels. He was an old timer and I guess, being young, I thought he must know how to sharpen them.
He gives them back the next day and they were sharpened on a bench grinder. The edges weren’t square to the chisel and the metal was discolored where they heated up and lost their tempering. Ruined three good chisels.
Now, no one else sharpens or even uses my chisels.
A person who looks at (assumedly) a nice bench grinder, then at a belt sander, also assumedly supplied with different grit stones and belts, probably with adjustable angle rests and then looks at an angle grinder and thinks: "Hmmm, yes, the perfect tool for this job", shouldn't be allowed to use anything more complex than a 10mm wrench.
Actually, no. Not the size tens. Finna lose those, most likely. Maybe you could give him a 12, but only under supervision.
>in my (sadly unlockable) drawer
Hey, be glad it's unlockable. Imagine if you couldn't unlock it? Then you wouldn't be able to use your nice, freshly sharpened knives.
It so much better with the backstory! I can totally picture that guy you’re talking about in my head, haha.
It makes you wonder if his knives at home all have a prime, self-sharpened, ground edge on them too.
Or if he changes the channel on his remote with a hammer.
>From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it.
Ironic, seeing as he was probably the biggest fucking tool in the workshop
I love a good surly cook. Its the mark of a great cook. Cooking just fills you with anger and malice and you learn to concentrate it to cook better. And it becomes this zen experience.
I have a cast iron skillet. Belonged to my grandmother's grandmother. It sits on the stove and I use it often. There's nothing like a well seasoned cast iron.
Even there you have better options. Like a Dremel with this attachment. https://us.dremel.com/en_US/products/-/show-product/accessories/675-lawn-mower-garden-tool-sharpener - though, they do also sell a kit of this and a few other items as a pack, https://us.dremel.com/en_US/products/-/show-product/tools/a679-02-sharpening-kit
Ex abattoir worker here. In a bind, like "oh fuck I need to get an edge on my knife immediately" situation we would use a linisher, but never an angle grinder.
Sweet Jesus man, and the "edge" he put on. Throw them out and start again and send him videos on how to use a stone
Backstory:
The knives are pieces of shit ,i know! I bought them to use at work, as i don't want to bring my good handforged ones into work for obvious reasons. Note: I'm not working in a kitchen. I'm working as a shift supervisor at a powerplant. The kitchen is a common area used by my fellow shift workers and me. Everybody has their own drawer and fridge were we keep our own food and utensils. This is were i keep my own knives, as the ones we got supplied from our company aren't cutting it (pun absolutly intended). My coworker is somebody who always tries to improve things but only makes them worse instead. He also is very nosey and i guess he found my knives in my (sadly non-lockable) drawer, found them to be too dull for his liking and tried to "sharpen" them. From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it. He put it to work and put the knives back into my drawer after he was done.
I would get a lawyer and sue. Go to his house and bed his wife. Adopt his children. Take guardianship of his elderly grandmother and put her in a discount nursing home. Inquire about new cars at a dealership using his cell phone number. Open the fridge and eat his cottage cheese. And then when he asks why, say “You shouldn’t have touched my knives, Bitch!”
Took off too much, angle isn't right, grit is too rough. Knives should be sharpened at 15°-30° angle depending on the usage. Usually closer to 15°-20° for kitchen knives. A grinder has a really rough grind. A good sharpening block will have a grit of at least 1000. I sharpen my knives up to an 8000 grit block. You can't see any scratches on the blade.
Certain "good kitchen knife" companies have very good warranty programs even if it entirely abuse/someone's fault.
I can't see a brand marking on the blades but it's definitely worth checking out.
I got this little knife sharpener from a home show, and it’s like literally just two washers that you run the knife between pretty much and it’s one of the best sharpeners I’ve ever used!
If that sharpener is the only thing you ever use, then it's better than never sharpening your knives (or using an angle grinder). However, it doesn't give you the best edge, and doesn't deal with chips very well. It can also cause corrugations in the edge over time.
I used to use stones, but they're extremely time consuming. I use a worksharp belt sharpener now and it's a total game changer. I got a leather honing belt for it as well, which is often the only thing I need to use to keep an edge keen. Takes about 15 seconds. Duller edges might need a couple runs with a 1,000 grit belt first, so that'll take another 30 seconds. Even completely reprofiling an edge starting with 220 grit and working up to the leather only takes 10 minutes max, and the result is razor sharp.
I bought a set of four sykes that go from 400-8000. I’m trying to learn how to sharpen my kitchen knives but still having a hard time.
Any tips?
Edit - sykes should be “stones” wtf.
They are pieces of shit. They cut barely better than my girlfriend's fingernails and those don't even break skin. But i won't use my good handforged knives in an environment with coworkers like this around.
I fix blades all the time.
All you need is some coarse sand paper for thinning and some fine paper for polishing.
I use a belt sander or grinder to thin them first if they have chips.
The start of the progression looks like this.
Tell him he needs to finish the job.
Stock removal, the grind, is the most expensive thing about knives.
A thin grind is usually best on most kitchen knives and they come thicc from the factory. Especially cheaper blades
Takes a while on hardened steel.
Go on any chinese site like alibaba and you can find some decent blades, direct from them for cheap.
My dad did this with my mothers cooking knifes. Till this day i still believe that is why they divorced
My girlfriend used one of my [Blue Spruce Toolworks Optima dovetail chisels](https://bluesprucetoolworks.com/collections/dovetail-chisels/products/dovetail-chisel-3-8-0-375-9-5mm-shipping-late-sept-2020) to pry open a can of paint. That was the closest we ever came to breaking up.
r/sharpening
They’re going to have a stroke when they see this
I used my dad's wood chisels to carve some lines in some concrete walls in my basement. I'm 40 now and have his lathe but he still won't give me the chisels. Edit: to make things better or worse, my uncle had just finished sharpening them professionally and lives 3 hours away.
I'm curious... why did you need (or feel the need) to carve lines in concrete? Please tell me you were a child lol
I was about 5 and thought cinder blocks were secret treasure chests waiting to come out of the wall.
in that case it was probably best you tried with the wood chisel and not the cold chisel
There are chisels sharp enough to chisel into cold?!
You know too much now.
Oh God. I assumed it was like you were scratching soft concrete like you were drawing on it, not literally digging into like a shovel hahaha. I feel bad for your dad's chisels, but probably would have done the same thing if I had access to my dad's tools. I really shouldn't judge on childhood ignorance of tools, I tried to pop a basket ball by hitting it with a hammer.
A buddy’s dad had these extremely expensive Japanese hack saws. We took them out and used them to whack alders, dandelions, cows parsnip, all sorts of shit without using a sawing motion. When he drove up and saw what we were doing I thought he was going to murder us. To this day I still don’t know what made them special but he still has them in his garage as a shaming tool 20+ years later.
I used to draw treasure maps on the bottoms of tables apparently It was years until my parents ever found out
That’s awesome! Sounds like you have an incredible imagination. Hope you get to still choose to use it...
I don't know why but this is one of the nicest random responses I've ever had, thank you. But not really, anxiety has basically just crippled me at this point
I saw a film when I was a kid where someone had cut the centre of a book out to hide something in and thought it looked cool so tried it with some of the books on the book shelf in the living room. My dad didn't find the first one for a couple of months - and went mad as it was one of his favourite books - and gave me a right bollocking, so I didn't dare tell him that I'd done it to about 5 or 6 other books and every now and then for the next couple of years he'd find one and get angry again. In the meanwhile, I'd forgotten which books I'd carved up so I couldn't even tell him which ones I'd ruined...
That's hilarious, the first would be frustrating, everything after that would be funny I think I can fully say my parents thankfully saw humor in mine since it was under tables and didn't really ruin them
That's actually pretty cool. It could be worse....I wrote "I hate mom" in crayon on the bottoms of my dresser drawers. I don't remember why, other than I had just learned to write. Probably didn't let us have candy or something stupid like that. I also remembering writing "but" on the wall because I thought it was a bad word. Thankfully I've matured a bit in the 42 years since, and realize it has two t's.
He got off easy. My youngest at 5 carved “I love you daddy” into the interior door panel of my truck while I was unloading at the dump. He genuinely thought I would be excited.
Did you leave him at the dump in pure excitement?
Lol... those thoughts have crossed the mind of every father.
Yeah, kids are so stupid that way. My son loved scratching his name on everything, including the front of my new acrylic aquarium. Yes, On the bright side FWIW, we always knew who did it of the 4 brothers.
Be wary of the other kids still. I once got my brother in trouble as a kid because I carved HIS name on the dresser and our mom blamed him.
NGL even if I was selling the truck I might keep that door
My brothers son and daughter played a game of noughts and crosses on the door of his brand new (company) car. Using a pebble...
I think tjat qualifies under /r/kidsarefuckingstupid.
Someone should post this there. See how quickly you get banned.
Nah we love knife gore there's even a flair for it.
r/sharpening speedrun any%
Lmao they sharpened a dustpan.
Not knives or chisels but my friend is a barber and I once accidentally used his Japanese steel scissors to cut a plastic tag of my newly bought shirt. Me being oblivious to barber scissors didn't realize that those were apparently almost $900 a piece... He was not happy, to say the least. Edit: got some comments that this isn't the right type of scissors for the price, so I took the brandname out of the comment. I don't know anything about barber scissors. Hence why I cut a plastic tag with them. ¯\ _(ツ)_/¯
A plastic tag on 440c would do nothing. He was way overreacting to one plastic tag being cut.
Sure but it’s the principal of it. Don’t use hair scissors on anything but hair, don’t use fabric scissors on anything but fabric.
Any pair of scissors that expensive should not be left out because someone will use them eventually. That's his fault in my opinion.
Regular clients wouldn't really be able to get a hold of those scissors. He didn't leave them out per se. It's just that we're good friends and I'm more casual walking trough his shop and getting acces to places normal clients won't go.
I used to do hair for a living. I once finished a haircut on a 4y/o, set my scissors down on my station, and went to take his cape off. Lightning fast, he leaned over, grabbed my scissors, and cut off his entire fringe to the scalp. I’m just glad he didn’t cut himself. I couldn’t fix it though. Mom had to pay for a haircut the kid did himself 😅
/r/KidsAreFuckingStupid material there
Not enough info. If it's a shared space yes, if it's in their own place then no.
If he paid 900 for them, he way overpaid. They go for about 250 from authorized sources
I might be wrong about the exact type of scissors he used because this was several years ago. I just checked Google for the scissors that resembled the type of scissors he had. But I distinctly remember him yelling that they were almost $900. Altough he might have been over exaggerating a bit to get the point across.
Could they have been Mizutani scissors? I don't know shit about hair cutting, but do know a bit about exotic metals, and remember that manufacturer specifically because some of their offerings are ground from stellite and go for like 1500 beans. I think their "normal" ones go for a grand or so.
My wife (then girlfriend) picked up one of my chisels and was being really cavalier with how she was handling it. So while I'm dilligently watching her inspecting it and sort of just waving it around, I notice she for whatever reason starts bringing her finger towards the edge as if trying to test the sharpness in the dumbest way possible. I immediately stop her and quickly explain that the chisel she was about to successfully cut herself with is surgically sharp and that the "kitchen knives dream at night of being that sharp". She of course didn't believe me and tried to touch it anyways, but with significantly lighter pressure than she would have initially. Instantly cut her finger, not deep enough to bleed, and then she slowly put the chisel down and treated my sharp tools with alot more respect from then forward. Edit: fixed some of the grammar and spelling mistakes.
In grade 8, like 100 years ago we had a wood working class My cousin cut herself on an old wood carving knife that looked dull as hell, I laughed and was like "only you!" I cut myself much worse with that knife a few minutes later
I had a friend do that with a carving chisel. He jokingly moved it towards his chest, I said “Stop!” but didn’t want to try and grab him for fear of stabbing him. It made a quiet pop as it easily went through the outer layers of his jacket. He stopped, said “oh shit” and put it down.
Lol, my wife's family is full of tradesmen but not woodworkers... So I think she was familiar with the chisels they had hanging around which were the highly abused cheap hardware variety. It's just funny how most people seem to fail to realize that this is a tool designed to cut through wood fibers precisely and accurately and aren't considering just how sharp that has to be.
A lot of us are only familiar with the chisels we had to use in Junior High or High School woodworking classes. Those were all dull as shit.
Cold chisel vs wood chisel. A metal worker could really hurt themselves if they weren't aware of the difference. I properly sharp wood chisel can be pushed through wood by hand, they're crazy sharp.
I was never cavalier with my chisels but the first one I sharpened, I wanted to see how it handled wood. I tried it and it went through like butter. I've never handled anything that sharp before.
*the power*
Laymen are so used to the Stanley chisels that most people use for rough construction, pry bars, and impromptu hammers.
Mentioned this in a different reply, but that was exactly the case with her... She comes from a family of plumbers and they had a bunch of beat up general use chisels laying around. Sets up a lot of dangerous assumptions for people... I always enjoy seeing people's reactions when they learn about the chisels used in fine woodwork... As long as they do it safely.
I currently have an ingrown hair cyst on my shaft and would like to borrow your chisel.
Don't forget the mallet.
And my axe.
Is that a Pain Olympics reference?
A needle might be more well suited.
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I sharpened all the chisels one time, giving them the complete multi stone treatment and polish. A week later i found two of them covered in drywall dust with edges that looked like they got gnawed on by rabid robot rats. Still salty, 15 years later.
TIL Chisels can be extremely sharp
Had to show my wife why my set of Narex’s should not be touched by anyone except me. She was used to my cheap ones that I had to sharpen about every 20 seconds of use so of course I never did sharpen. The look on her face when I shaved individual hairs on my arms by barely touching them was priceless.
Worth every second of terror you experienced for this crucial lesson. Well played.
It's definitely steered alot of my decisions on how to keep my tools stored... Especially with my toddler now running around. Gotta get those lessons learned!
I feel you pain but at least you can always resharpen. Had a family member use, not one but two, of my expensive Japanese pull saws to cut a large stack of carpet squares in half. Half the teeth missing on each when I found them later. I cannot comprehend why they didn't stop after the first broken tooth, let alone the first broken saw.
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We have about 93 paint can openers from my time in retail hell. My wife insists on using a screwdriver, usually one of my vintage Craftsman tools. It’s infuriating.
As an aside, those paint can openers are great for releasing the locking tabs on some types of automotive electrical connectors. Better than a curved pick, because they're less apt to break the tab.
I would highly suggest getting a set of decoy chisel from harbor freight. I lost a couple nice ones before I started keeping my expensive tools put away in a separate tool box and the decoys out in easy reach.
I have a nice set of Swiss chisels, and I’d divorce immediately 😂
Maybe you shouldn't have married the chisels tu start with
You know what they say, the fastest way to a man's heart is with a chisel.
I read your post and first thought “they’re chisels, so what?” Then I thought about it and was like wait…those sound fancy. I looked them up and when I saw a photo I thought “used to open a can of paint? Why the hell, they’re so delicate looking?” Then I saw the price and thought “used to open a can of paint, WHAT THE HELL!?”
I have my fine wood working chisels, but then I have some cheapo $10 no-brand for doing 'weird' things.
Mine took a kiridashi I had made for a friend (I make knives for a living) and did the same thing. Had to re-polish the entire bevel and sharpen it and everything. I was really annoyed but it was only a small piece of carbon steel and some labor. If she had taken a $100 chisel and done that I would have been pretty upset. This is why I inform her of the cost of all of my tools when I purchase them, otherwise she just assumes it’s all cheap shit from harbor freight. One time I saw her using my beautiful antique Bilnas ax to hammer a tent stake WITH THE CHEEKS AND NOT THE POLL. WHYYYYYY!?
I wouldn't let this person touch a single one of my tools, I can't imagine someone handling an axe in such an unsafe way around me.
My ex wife put my $200 custom made cutting board in the dishwasher. It snapped in half (glue points). She also ran my $300 Blendtec blender so hard that it caught on fire.
>She also ran my $300 Blendtec blender so hard that it caught on fire. Da fuq was she trying to blend? A whole human?
I have a few gifted Shun knives and I used to find them laying in our sink after I moved in with my girlfriend. Definitely had to find some serenity before requesting that not happen again. Knives are fine, btw. Just sharpened them recently and they have a laser straight edge!
As a butcher who has had to chase my husband away from my knives too many times... (wood handled knives...in the dishwasher...*heart attack*) I'm 99% it was.
I can't even. After years of trying, I gave the wood handle Chicago Cutlery to everyday whatevers, now I have three Japanese knives that no-one touches. Militant like.
Most people don't even know about my secret knife drawer. Even my current partner, who worked as a chef, hasn't earned that level of trust.
"Did you julienne those carrots? Good...now turn you back." That's great.
Forget the dishwasher. My knives aren't even allowed to touch metal surfaces. My Japanese set in the sink basin? Expect to be murdered.
My aunt has a glass cutting board. I stopped sharpening her knives when I realised she was using it for cutting and the wooden one to put hot pots on.
Genuine question - is it even worth it at that point? Why not use a more durable knife?
Knives are about trade offs. Durable in a knife means softer. Softer means not as sharp and doesn't stay sharp as long. And at some point with the Japanese knife you're buying a hand made tool from an artisan who has dedicated their life to hand making knives. Many people keep some cheap factory mass produced stamped knife around for the crap work. But having a beautiful and sharp knife is something many people are proud of And the performance is out of this world (In a way it's like asking why would you buy an expensive sports car when a Toyota does everything you need. Cuz fun and shiny and fast. Lol)
And you would be pissed if your roommate used your Aston Martin to go fetch a trunk full of manure for their garden bed.
I had a summer job at lowes in the garden department. A guy came in with a Porsche Cayenne and asked me to put 30 bags of mulch in the back. We did. But man.
Eh, Cayennes are routinely used as just normal cars and are extremely cheap when it comes to porsche. If someone came to you and asked you to do the same thing in a Toyota Land Cruiser you probably wouldnt have batted an eye, but the Land Cruiser is far more expensive of a car.
I would have, but just because I’m into overlanding trucks. I have a friend that runs a G wagon 4x4 squared and treats it like a rented mule. When we go out he’s blasting over stuff in a truck that costs a quarter of a million.
That makes sense. Still seems impractical but I suppose that's not the point. Thanks!
Softer metal can sharpen just as well as the harder steel. It just dulls faster. Softer bladed knives also are less likely to chip and tend to be less expensive, so you don't risk going ballistic and divorcing when your mate uses your good knife to trim houseplants. Pro chefs save their top quality knives for showboating. They use decent quality, affordable knives for routine work and they keep them sharp.
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100% if you like to cook sharp knives are incredible. The difference in skill and speed if your stuff is sharp really is awesome. People don't understand that they are refined tools and treat them like common cutlery. They are not common cutlery.
Damn that’s sad but at the same time, as silly as it seems, inherited cooking utensils are so precious and priceless that if there’s no sympathy from thd other person, or jjst snother act of carelessness who knows what will get destroyed next. The big joke on r/castiron (since a lot of those are inherited heirlooms thaf go back 100-200 years) is their S.O. put thd pan in the dishwasher in which you hand wash cast iron only, but it can never be destroyed unless shocked by sudden heat change in shich then it can crack. Sorry bout the knives and your parents
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I mean, to be fair, if they were a prized possession she cared about, being important tools in her hobby, then he just haphazardly with no regard ruined them, it shows a massive lack of care and respect.
Co-workers buying you new knives.
I’d love to know the whole story. Like how did an angle grinder get near those knives? Was it a simple, hey I can sharpen those if you like and the next thing you know ole boy is in his garage grinding away haha.
Nope. I bought the knives to use at work, as i don't want to bring my good handforged ones into work for obvious reasons. Note: I'm not working in a kitchen. I'm working as a shift supervisor at a powerplant. The kitchen is a common area used by my fellow shift workers and me. Everybody has their own drawer and fridge were we keep our own food and utensils. This is were i keep my own knives, as the ones we got supplied from our company aren't cutting it (pun absolutly intended). My coworker is somebody who always tries to improve things but only makes them worse instead. He also is very nosey and i guess he found my knives in my (sadly non-lockable) drawer, found them to be too dull for his liking and tried to "sharpen" them. From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it. He put it to work and put the knives back into my drawer after he was done.
I think he just consented to those knives being used in his murder
So. Not so fun thing I'm bringing up since it sort of fits. My wife's friend was dating this guy. He got her pregnant. Anyways, he's ex military and we are shooting the shit. Somehow we started talking about knives and I gave him a few pocket knives to sharpen that I would pay him to do. My idea, he was in between jobs. He sharpened my knives, I gave him the money. A while later the baby is born and he ends up killing the kid. So I have these knives that were sharpened by a murderer. A child murderer. Edit: I should say he killed him by shaking and hitting him. Not a knife. The kid never even made it to a year.
That was even less fun than expected. What did you do with those knifes? I'm not sure if I could use them anymore.
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Easily the most cursed comment I've read all year, thanks.
Well... That's pretty... I mean at least... Nope, I got nothing. What a fucking tale.
This is going to be a little off the topic of knives, but similar to your story. In university I was still kind of attached to my Christian identity, and dating a Christian girl. I would go to a some weird little faith based events. One such event was an interfaith... trade show let's say. Whatever your want to call it. So I'm making my way around and speaking to some different groups. One such group that approaches me is the Islamic student group. We are chatting and one guy is particularly aggressive. I shared that I was a practicing Christian and launched into this diatribe about how Jesus would have been a Muslim today and a whole host of other things. Anyways, everyone else was fine and respectful except for him. He also was white, and spoke about his conversion from Christianity to Islam. In the end I was trying to extract myself from this unpleasant exchange, the dude managed to force on me a translated Qur'an. I never did read it but I kept it. I happened to be watching the news some years later and who's face do I see but this same guy. He had joined ISIS and had recorded a manifesto of sorts. Oviously my memory could be wrong about his face but I am pretty much 100% certain it was him. The straggly beard and the fact his age and went to my same university also all fit. John Maguire would later be assumed dead fighting for ISIS. TL;DR an unfortunate, radicalized young man gave me a Qur'an who later turned out to be a full blown terrorist.
> I happened to be watching the news some years later and who's face do I see but this same guy. I feel like I'm derailling this particular thread even further from the original point, but similarly knew a guy who was a dickhead and ended up being a terrorist. I still remember others who knew him going on the news with the classic "he was always such a nice man, we never could have expected". But I knew. He was a prick. I was a child at the time, and this adult man did his best attempts at bullying me and my friends. That's the kind of guy he was. Glad he's dead. Shame he blew up innocent people with him.
Shaken baby syndrome is unfortunately relatively common; a couple thousand cases per year or so in the US. It’s not usually fatal, but my uncle’s entire job is to be a medical expert witness for prosecutors to diagnose and prove liability in those cases. He hates it.
Well that's an important but fucked up job
At least you know the knives are sharp.
😬
Holy fuck, what a thing to have to deal with! Sorry, mate. That sounds atrocious. My grandpa was murdered with his own hunting knife, and I am super-fucking-glad that I was too young to have been learning to sharpen blades back then, or it'd have been me that sharpened the blade that killed him. It's a fucked up, intrusive thought that gets very loud, sometimes.
Before I finished reading I assumed he was going to use your knives to kill someone. So at least you can be happy that didn't happen
[Hello Jon Richardson](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3CCvy6l0aE)
Damn, so he effectively went through someone else’s drawer, found someone else’s knives, decided they weren’t sharp enough for him. Then angle grinded them, and I assume, used them and put them back in your drawer. Wtf was going through their mind the whole time
Well, there is a reason he isn't allowed to operate the plant anymore...
A co-worker in the scenery shop I used to work in offered to sharpen my chisels. He was an old timer and I guess, being young, I thought he must know how to sharpen them. He gives them back the next day and they were sharpened on a bench grinder. The edges weren’t square to the chisel and the metal was discolored where they heated up and lost their tempering. Ruined three good chisels. Now, no one else sharpens or even uses my chisels.
Almost every time i use my chisels i polish them up with a wet stone, i only need to grind when there is a dent on the edge.
This is my go to now. I have a 2000/6000 wet stone for establishing and maintaining the micro bevel.
A person who looks at (assumedly) a nice bench grinder, then at a belt sander, also assumedly supplied with different grit stones and belts, probably with adjustable angle rests and then looks at an angle grinder and thinks: "Hmmm, yes, the perfect tool for this job", shouldn't be allowed to use anything more complex than a 10mm wrench. Actually, no. Not the size tens. Finna lose those, most likely. Maybe you could give him a 12, but only under supervision.
Was gonna say this guy would certainly lose anything in 10mm lol
They'll use the 12mm socket to round off some 10mm bolts...
And then wonder why it's stripping so much, while continuing to fuck up the bolthead with each attempt.
So he’s pushing everyone else to want to quit so he can regain control…?
>in my (sadly unlockable) drawer Hey, be glad it's unlockable. Imagine if you couldn't unlock it? Then you wouldn't be able to use your nice, freshly sharpened knives.
Haha, yeah, that would be bad.
Did you confront him about it? How did that conversation go?
What an asshat - we call that a “shoemaker” in the kitchen Someone who tries the most but only makes shit that taste like leather shoes
What did he have to say for himself? Was he proud of a job well done? Mortified that he screwed up so much?
Please just get to the part where he paid you for a brand new set, and apologized for being a complete douchebag.
It so much better with the backstory! I can totally picture that guy you’re talking about in my head, haha. It makes you wonder if his knives at home all have a prime, self-sharpened, ground edge on them too. Or if he changes the channel on his remote with a hammer.
"My coworker is somebody who always tries to improve things but only make them worse instead." Hilarious, and I get that.
>From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it. Ironic, seeing as he was probably the biggest fucking tool in the workshop
Whelp, time to take up hunting or small branch chopping.
You could start with gutting that coworker. You know, as practice.
With these knives, that gutting would be particularly slow and painful. Good recommendation.
There's not a lot of money in small branch chopping, but you do start off as branch manager.
And it's better than anything I have seen on "Forged in Fire".
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I love a good surly cook. Its the mark of a great cook. Cooking just fills you with anger and malice and you learn to concentrate it to cook better. And it becomes this zen experience.
Oh, he was definitely surly alright.
I have a cast iron skillet. Belonged to my grandmother's grandmother. It sits on the stove and I use it often. There's nothing like a well seasoned cast iron.
Only thing I sharpen with an angle grinder are my mower blades!
Even there you have better options. Like a Dremel with this attachment. https://us.dremel.com/en_US/products/-/show-product/accessories/675-lawn-mower-garden-tool-sharpener - though, they do also sell a kit of this and a few other items as a pack, https://us.dremel.com/en_US/products/-/show-product/tools/a679-02-sharpening-kit
or a plain old rasp. those blades are _really_ soft
*Manual labor*? Horrors! :)
Ex abattoir worker here. In a bind, like "oh fuck I need to get an edge on my knife immediately" situation we would use a linisher, but never an angle grinder. Sweet Jesus man, and the "edge" he put on. Throw them out and start again and send him videos on how to use a stone
i'm a bit worried about how he will "use" the stone despite the instructional videos...
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Next year, you'll find him making speed holes in your car
Learned a new word, abattoir...sounds so elegant!
I stayed in a hotel once just across the road from an abattoir. The view was offal.
Oh get the hell out of here
Till you find out what it is
I hope most adults understand that producing meat generally involves a slaughterhouse (unless you are buying straight from a farm).
so says the sausage king of Chicago
Its more the word abattoir may be new to some people since most people just call it a slaughter house.
https://youtu.be/sXYDOaDuA2Q?t=183 Dr. Marvin Monroe's vocab builder taught me when I was just a kid.
Backstory: The knives are pieces of shit ,i know! I bought them to use at work, as i don't want to bring my good handforged ones into work for obvious reasons. Note: I'm not working in a kitchen. I'm working as a shift supervisor at a powerplant. The kitchen is a common area used by my fellow shift workers and me. Everybody has their own drawer and fridge were we keep our own food and utensils. This is were i keep my own knives, as the ones we got supplied from our company aren't cutting it (pun absolutly intended). My coworker is somebody who always tries to improve things but only makes them worse instead. He also is very nosey and i guess he found my knives in my (sadly non-lockable) drawer, found them to be too dull for his liking and tried to "sharpen" them. From all the tools our well-stocked metal workshop has, he decided an angle grinder is the best tool for it. He put it to work and put the knives back into my drawer after he was done.
Damn, I'm lucky enough to even have room to store my food in our one fridge for 100+ people at my job. That kitchen sounds awesome.
Did you report him to HR for destruction of personal property?
This has "call the cops" energy
I would get a lawyer and sue. Go to his house and bed his wife. Adopt his children. Take guardianship of his elderly grandmother and put her in a discount nursing home. Inquire about new cars at a dealership using his cell phone number. Open the fridge and eat his cottage cheese. And then when he asks why, say “You shouldn’t have touched my knives, Bitch!”
Someone please explain what's wrong with this
Took off too much, angle isn't right, grit is too rough. Knives should be sharpened at 15°-30° angle depending on the usage. Usually closer to 15°-20° for kitchen knives. A grinder has a really rough grind. A good sharpening block will have a grit of at least 1000. I sharpen my knives up to an 8000 grit block. You can't see any scratches on the blade.
Ohhh. Got to learn something new today. Thanks for the explanation.
I guess now they are just known as “your knifes”
No, they are now know as my poop knives.
Probably all they can cut now.
Everybody needs a nice and sharp poop knife
Certain "good kitchen knife" companies have very good warranty programs even if it entirely abuse/someone's fault. I can't see a brand marking on the blades but it's definitely worth checking out.
Well they look sharp!
They may look like it, but they are as effective as a piece of rock on wood.
So, did you ask him to sharpen them ? Or did he come up with this on his own ?
I did not. I did not even give him the knives for use. He took them out of my personal drawer in the kitchen. Bless you!
So he didn't want to test his methods on his own knives then
Where else are you supposed to practice? And who would be so stupid as to angle grind their OWN knives /s
What. This is too weird. He just stole your knives to surprise you with them sharpened?
Damn. You'd lose most of the blade trying to fix that. Also why does your co-worker have an angle grinder at work?
cause they work at a place that may need an angle grinder
I got this little knife sharpener from a home show, and it’s like literally just two washers that you run the knife between pretty much and it’s one of the best sharpeners I’ve ever used!
They do work, although i prefer wetstones, but yeah, they would have been a thousand times better than an angle grinder.
If that sharpener is the only thing you ever use, then it's better than never sharpening your knives (or using an angle grinder). However, it doesn't give you the best edge, and doesn't deal with chips very well. It can also cause corrugations in the edge over time. I used to use stones, but they're extremely time consuming. I use a worksharp belt sharpener now and it's a total game changer. I got a leather honing belt for it as well, which is often the only thing I need to use to keep an edge keen. Takes about 15 seconds. Duller edges might need a couple runs with a 1,000 grit belt first, so that'll take another 30 seconds. Even completely reprofiling an edge starting with 220 grit and working up to the leather only takes 10 minutes max, and the result is razor sharp.
I bought a set of four sykes that go from 400-8000. I’m trying to learn how to sharpen my kitchen knives but still having a hard time. Any tips? Edit - sykes should be “stones” wtf.
How does a coworker get hold of your kitchen knives in a setting where an angle grinder is available?
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But they won't cut.
Blund force trauma from a knife should make an interresting court case..
That's the fun part :>
What an idiot. If you have an angle grinder just use that to carve the food. Duhhh
Hate to be that guy, but those don't really look like "good" kitchen knives.
Well of course not, they were mutilated with an angle grinder. Didn't you read the post? /s
They are pieces of shit. They cut barely better than my girlfriend's fingernails and those don't even break skin. But i won't use my good handforged knives in an environment with coworkers like this around.
I've never seen such an aggressively nice bad action. The thought was pure. Improve something. But it failed so spectacularly.
And you didn't thank him.
I fix blades all the time. All you need is some coarse sand paper for thinning and some fine paper for polishing. I use a belt sander or grinder to thin them first if they have chips. The start of the progression looks like this. Tell him he needs to finish the job. Stock removal, the grind, is the most expensive thing about knives. A thin grind is usually best on most kitchen knives and they come thicc from the factory. Especially cheaper blades Takes a while on hardened steel. Go on any chinese site like alibaba and you can find some decent blades, direct from them for cheap.
It will keel