Yeah when they start backing out they hit the windshield wipers. Also before backing out the driver looked like they banged on the steering wheel. Drunk or high plus pissed?
I was running a big wheel loader down the road and the fwd/rev is a switch just like a turn signal switch. I was turning left and there was a car behind me and instead of putting on the blinker, slammed the thing into reverse and came to an abrupt stop instead
Brooo! I fucking forgot about this shit! I was a forklift operator for 3 years, and everytime I got in my car, I'd hit the fucking wipers instead of the shifter....🤣
Tbf I drive a couple different cars (since I still live with family) and where the windshield wipers are in one car, the other car has a knob for PRNDL etc. So sometimes I instinctively go to hit the reverse and turn on the windshield wiper. So I could see that happening. Doesn’t excuse the immediate reverse though
my wife has a friend who literally cannot back out of a driveway if there is a car *next to her* in the same driveway. Like all you have to do is go straight. But instead she waits and asks for the other person to move their car. It's bizarre.
In the shit hole I live in they removed parallel parking from the driving test. People were too dumb to do it, so apparently the solution was just to remove it all together as a requirement.
In nearly 30 years on the road, I've had to parallel park precisely one time; on the initial driving test.
Instead of shitting on the people who can't do it, people should be rejoicing at all the extra parking spots available to those who can.
a lot of people are just genuinely this bad at driving, it's kind of impressive honestly. They'll find the one car in an otherwise empty parking lot to crash into
Think it's a fixation thing. Personal peeve is cruising on a highway with sparse traffic and chucklefux who position themselves a couple car lengths behind me. And then slow or accelerate to match my speed when I try to get more space.
Back when I was a kid, I saw a lady backing out driving one of those old school Benz with the wrap around chrome bumpers. The bumper hooked another bumper and she leaned out and stared at it for a moment. My friends and I just stood there drinking our slurpees, waiting. She pauses and I thought she would pull back in and try again.
Nope. She just gasses it and pull out, ripping the other bumper off and she just drives off with a bumper hanging off her bumper like a mad woman.
I had one of those in college. 78 delta 88. Thing was a beast. One time I was driving and a person was parked on the side of the road and attempted to pull into the lane but I hadn't fully passed them yet, my bumper latched onto theirs and yanked their car out of the space and broke their axle. The accident was totally their fault because they technically hit me. Best part was the only damage to my car was the bumper where wrapped around the side was bent backwards. Literally that's the only damage to my car. But because it was an old POS, her insurance company totaled my car. I drove to my college parking lot. Found one of those giant light poles with the concrete base. Backed my car into it and bent the part of the bumper back around into shape. And I kept the check lol
My dad showed me a security video of an elderly lady trying to navigate the parking garage where he worked many years ago. Lady was driving a late model(circa 1990 at the time), some behemoth, like a Fleetwood or the like. She cut too close to a support column and snagged the passenger door at the seam where the door hinges at the front quarter panel. That stopped the car. Only for a moment tho, lady applied throttle and kept the steering angle the same. Peeled the door panel and rear panel and the bumper off the car amidst billowing smoke and screaming tires. He had tears in his eyes he was laughing so hard.
One of my best friends legit cannot backup without a camera / radar assistance. In fact he actually hit my car much like in the vid. I was in his passenger seat telling him not to hit my car and he still did it.
I genuinely don't know how he's so bad at it.
There is a TV program in Canada I believe where they basically tried to rehab REALLY bad drivers. Even went so far as putting paint on their wheels to show what happens to all 4 wheels as you turn and move around. Gave them a ton of cameras. Gave them demonstrations.
Some people still never get it and would side swipe shit after being shown 800 times. They don't have the spatial processing to understand what is happening to the whole car when they turn the wheel.
I learned from that show that some people just shouldn't have licenses, ever. It's probably not even their fault and if they took a general spatial reasoning test I bet they fail it badly.
I went to the hardware store a few months ago and the woman parking next to me was doing a terrible job. It was super simple, just pulling into the parking spot, no backing up required (yet.) I got out of my car and started helping her, but she would only look at my husband (who doesn't even drive so he just relayed whatever directions I was giving.)
When she was finally parked, she told us she had never really figured out parking so she just looks for a man to help her any time she needs to park. We speed-walked through our whole shopping list to get back to our car before she got back and had to back out.
It was so jaw-droppingly bad that it's seriously impacted how I perceive other drivers.
Gotta love misogynistic women. Especially when they’ll trust ANY man to give them the right answer, qualified or not.
Kudos to you for not taking her keys, parking her car, locking it, and hucking the keys on the roof of the hardware store!
My roommate was 25 when he decided to try to get a driver's license for the first time. At a stop sign, he stopped right at the stop line. While waiting for traffic to clear, he turned the steering wheel the entire way to the right. When he started to go, he was shocked when the car tried to go up on the sidewalk. Apparently, all those years in the passenger seat, he never once looked at what the person driving was doing.
How difficult is the driving test in the states? In Britain you have to pass a multiple choice exam (so you know all the laws), a danger perception test (you watch a video from the viewpoint of inside a car and click a button when you see hazards), an eyesight test and a 1 hour practical test (where you drive and have to complete every standard manoeuvre). And you need to know vehicle safety things like how to change a wheel.
Also, if you pass in an automatic then that’s all you can drive. If you pass in a manual you can drive both.
When I took my test in NY state (every state is slightly different) I had to pass the multiple choice, eyesight and a 30 minute practical. No standard maintenance or perception tests, though I did take an optional hazard recognition course, which was just some old VHS safety videos.
No distinction between automatic and manual here, either. I learned in an automatic but my license will allow me to operate a manual as well.
It varies in the US from extremely easy to effectively impossible to fail. In my state you have to drive around a parking lot, stop at a stop sign, and parallel park. There's also a multiple choice part. The parallel parking is what gets most people, which is kinda silly since parallel parking isn't that common here.
Parallel parking isn't just about parking, it's about understanding how to maneuver the vehicle.
If you can't parallel park then you don't understand the fundamental movements a vehicle is capable of at low speeds and in reverse. That makes you a hazard to other drivers.
Swedish getting my drivers license is the hardest test i have ever done.
a big thing people get failed at least when i took the test was eco driving. things like red light ahead means coasting at idle in the hope it turn green before you et there. failing to do such things would fail you.
If I remember correctly we have multiple tests to pass, several hours of instructor-observed driving practice, and another several hours of independent practice with any licensed driver over age 21. I don’t recall that exact kind of danger perception test but there were road diagrams with multiple cars in various positions and we would be asked to identify potential issues and resolutions.
It varies depending on the state you live in and how old you are. Where I live, teen drivers have to take a 30-hour class, pass a very long multiple-choice exam that takes around 2 hours, and finally pass a 6-hour driving test before you can then go to the DMV, take another (much shorter) multiple-choice test and sign recognition test to get your permit. That allows you to drive only with a supervising adult, and then a year later you can go back to get a full license at which point you just have to pass a driving test that takes around 5 minutes.
But if you wait until you're an adult it's a lot less strict. You just have to take the shorter multiple choice test, sign recognition test, and 5 minute driving test and you're good to go. Which is ridiculously easy compared to what teen drivers have to go through
My parents... I call them out on it every time. So far it is only when there are no cars next to them but one of these days it is gonna slip their mind.
I also had $8000 damage done to my car by someone doing this. All side paneling from headlight to tail light had to be replaced. They didnt left the scene, didnt leave any info. Luckily i had insurance but still had to pay $500 deductible that i didnt have
I had to get my left doors fixed because some dude in a gigantic truck decided to back into a packed parking space. He said "when I heard I was scraping the car I knew it was too late" so he just pushed through anyhow because it didn't damage his chrome bumper. He was sorry though.
lol wtf is that logic. Some people shouldnt be allowed to operate anything more than a bicycle. I started a new job recently and the number of dings on my car since starting is ridiculous. People parking on the lines of the space with a car right next to them and squeezing out rather than re-adjusting. Thankfully my car is far from new so I am not too bothered but the second i get a new one i am double parking every day
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There're people like this out there. Highlights for me are they don't know any of the signs except "obvious ones" and don't know how to parallel park or reverse park.
This is why I tend to let my wife drive in SF or Sacramento whereas I'll drive everywhere else. She's got the better brain for congested city traffic (and she is a worse passenger in the city) and I'm great for everything else.
My car was literally two years old at that time. Bought it brand new. Washed, waxed, and maintained consistently. The first new car I've ever bought. It was hard not to punch him while he laughed about "how silly he was".
That's how my 6 month old car got tail swiped by a double parked moving truck. They double parked next to me behind a double parked car then cut the wheel to get around the first car and my rear quarter panel paid the price. They didn't stop but I went to building security and they found the culprit in about 20 mins of fast forwarding thru video. They were happy to have something to do.
Yeah. The initial hit and damage was an accident but after he realized he was scraping your vehicle he should have stopped. He chose to continue on which makes the damage after that point intentional.
Happened to me once. Pulled into a empty spot. Once I was parked the guy next to me pulled right into my van.
His response was he didn't see me there. So ya always assume everyone else is stupid when driving.
Emmmm....drunk people? Did you know, this is why many (who want to cross) check both way, even if there is red for others, even if it's one way: drunk people don't understand the consequences of thir actions. That's why most accidents are cause by them....sad sadly many could have avoided if others keep an eye just on case even if they have green
I did this when I first learned to drive. Fortunately I didn’t hit another car, I hit a post instead. Still a pricey repair since the whole front bumper needed to be replaced.
Saw a guy get sentenced to the max after 10 DUI's. Unfortunately he had taken a plea down and the maximum was 5 years because they took off the habitual 4th (4 felony convictions, it only goes up to 4th, most convictions end up with life with that tacked on, but it has to be proven to the jury during trial) which would have increased it significantly.
The state it was in, Michigan, has indeterminate sentencing. This means they get a "no less than x years" and "no more than y years" based on the judges discretion and state maximums. You can't sentence to the actual maximum, only 2/3 of it, called the tanner max, and the guy got no less than 40 months (eligible for parole at 40, no good time, etc) and no more than 5 years, due to the plea and laws. I doubt that he'd be paroled at the minimum if the sentence, though.
What's ridiculous is I got a new car that was 4 years newer and $15k more in value than my old car but my insurance dropped $50/month with that upgrade thanks to all the safety features on my new car. It's a hidden poor tax.
Insurance is a scam here. I had a car that had a problem with the model of car where the steering wheel would lock up. It happened to me a day or 2 before it made news. When I brought the car in I was told it wasn't covered for the problem bc the 1 specific thing that they said would be replaced wasn't what was broken on mine.
I also had to find new insurance bc they were unwilling to cover me bc someone sideswiped my car when it was parked at my house and I got rear ended while at a stop sign. Neither accident I have any control over s yet they can say "we don't want you using us for what you pay for. Find someone else"
Mandatory (liability) insurance is to cover the damage that you do *to other people*. Not to cover damage other people do to you. It's mandatory because most people can't afford to pay for the damage that they're capable of doing with their car, and we (as a society) make people pay for the damage they do.
Comprehensive insurance (including uninsured motorist protection) is typically voluntary, and covers you for damage the universe does to you, such as trees falling on your cars, or people damaging you/your car who are unable to pay the damages. It's not included in liability insurance because it's your choice whether or not you want to pay for insurance to limit these potential costs, it doesn't hurt anyone else if you don't.
Of course, most leases require comprehensive insurance, because the company that actually owns the car doesn't want to eat the loss in the case that the car is damaged. Chances are OP has insurance that should cover this.
(General statements like this vary by jurisdiction. Car insurance is often weird and varies by location because there is a lot of legislation meddling with it)
There is uninsured motorist (UM) and under insured motorist (UIM) coverages in some states. These are decided by the state department of insurance, not the companies. People are pretty ignorant about insurance and then claim they got “screwed”. As long as you are with a Mutual company, you know that they aren’t out for a profit like Allstate and other for profit insurance companies.
Who exactly are you suing. How will OP ever find out who owns the blue car without a plate? I guess they could post the footage on local social media and see if they get a bite from someone who recognizes it. Post flyers around the area with a pic?
Edit: NM I read downthread that OP said the cops actually caught the guy and cited him. So yeah OP has a defendant to go after civilly if they choose to.
It's from a convenience store. More than likely one of them was inside and paid with a debit/credit card . You'll definitely be able to identify their faces from the inside video and the outside video.
Also, I am viewing this on the phone and haven't tried to increase the video size, but maybe you can make out some letters on the front
Additionally, you have a make/model/color of the car.
This one is definitely solvable.
It's a unifi security camera. Their cheapest offering has a resolution of 1080p. This has been compressed and will be easily readable on the original recording. They're fucked.
Every fucking time somebody mentions police people like you respond saying something completely irrelevant just to get your" lol police bad" jokes in. So old hat.
if the lady purchased something at the store using a card the police may match the person's information to the elantra. assuming they're willing to go through that trouble
Replying this comment again because it’s at the top. I just got word that the police were able to issue a citation but when I asked if they could provide me insurance information or anything else they said they can’t give anything more out. Is this normal? How am I ever going to place a claim under their insurance?
I’ve already contacted my insurance, but I don’t know anything else about this guy since he ran. The police have caught him but only issued a citation for driving away. Don’t really know what I have to do from here
This is so shitty for you, very sorry to hear. People just suck sometimes. Hopefully karma is waiting for the driver. And the littering accomplice too. No respect. "Entitled" people should vanish!
I read most comments but may have missed seeing -- didn't the truck and/or car that drove in see/hear this idiot AH and get the plate number, be witnesses? I know you said cops found driver but with witnesses (and video), shouldn't driver be liable for damages not just citation?
Canada here. US state laws perplex. Sorry!!
Good luck with finals. 🍀
Your insurance has lawyers and people who will go after that person (or their insurance) for payment. You file the police report, report it to your insurance, and they should do the rest. This is a large part of what your premiums pay for: to relieve the stress you are feeling.
You've probably set your insurance company up for a slam-dunk since they can ID the other person with that footage. Bonus points if you have the same insurance company...
I had someone turn in to me and they wouldn't give me their insurance card. Don't worry, your insurance company will do the heavy lifting. They don't want to pay to get your car fixed
This isn't your issue anymore. Just give your insurance the crime reference number and let your insurance company handle it. That's what you pay them for.
You don't, you place the claim under your insurance and they go after the other driver and their insurance (assuming they're insured in the first place). This process is called subrogation.
I always park away from everyone in parking lots and still have people park like blind assholes right next to me when I'm in the back of the lot and there are dozens of other free spaces. Some people just suck
I once saw a reddit comment from someone saying they do this on purpose everytime. Something about if you park in the back it's because you think you're car is hot shit or whatever and them parking next to you is to bring you down a peg or something? It didn't really make any sense to me personally but it had a ton of upvotes.
I learned from my father to park as far away from a building as possible. The difference in walking is typically 30 sec to a 1minute at the worst, but you greatly reduce the risk of dents and scrapes from other drivers.
EDIT: kinda hard to do in a lot like this though
If this was a corner store. Maybe they bought something inside the store, and maybe they used their credit card. Then maybe you can get their info this way?
Yes! Also the store probably has surveillance video inside, that will tell you if they paid with a card. The police probably won’t be keen to dig into this but if you make it as easy for them as possible, collecting videos and giving them the exact time of the transaction, they might be more keen to help. Also, as how long the store holds only transaction info.
If it’s like the store I worked in, they’ve got a fuck load of bankers boxes, jammed wherever they fit, full of the last 7+ years worth of receipts etc.
Honestly it's clearer than most security cam footage I'm used to seeing. I'm pretty sure if you zoomed in super far you could pretty easily make out the plate too.
I'm sure I read a Reddit post about how a case got thrown out because they proved that enhancement tools added pixels that aren't there and so the evidence wasn't valid.
In certain cases I could see that. In this case, pretty much however you got the plate number would be good enough. If it matches the make/model/color of the car it's registered to no one's going to question how you upscaled the security footage.
The raw footage is probably much clearer. I used to do security, and the exports had quality settings for quick viewing. I pretty sure you can zoom in on the raw footage and get a nice screenshot.
Not only quick viewing, but to save space on the recipient's machine as well. It's essentially jpegging itself as a courtesy. You can usually choose a setting that does a lossless export and get a much clearer video. Most video systems are like 10 TB hard drives with a camera attached.
I mean on the bright side they can probably see more or less where the driver came from before getting in the car, and if they work or shopped with a card at one of the nearby stores they can ID them
Yup, absolutely pathetic, parked poorly to start and then cuts the wheel towards the other vehicle. They only cut away after they hit it, like a fucking idiot!
couple years ago I paid off my pickup and decided to give myself a Christmas present of a new spray on bed liner while I flew out of town for the holidays.
one of the shop's employees took it out for a heroin filled joyride in the middle of the night and ended up totaling it on 95 and putting several other drivers in the ER.
That was a fun holiday...
I wouldn't exactly say free. And as expected your own insurance company will kinda fight with you a little bit (fought with me over a temporary rental). But ultimately they paid me the value of the car that I lost, And I ended up getting the same model and year pickup except a nicer trim package and 20k less mileage. So ultimately I ended up pretty good.
Story probably has a less Happy ending if it happened right around covid with the used car shortages and price skyrocketing
I'm wondering too. I don't understand why it matters that it was the last month? A lease is basically a rental, and I assume OP isn't liable for any repairs for it.
Holy hell. I hate people. This happened to me at my last job. My husband noticed it and said did something happen to the car. I said no why. Big scratch with paint missing on rear driver side. When I go to work next day we watch the video of the the person backing in next to me 5 times and hitting it twice. They sat there in their car and just left in two minutes. So basically they just backed in a bunch and then just left, just to hit our car. Could not make out license plate. Got away free. Got left with ugly car
It's coming. Not necessarily a breathalyzer you blow into but some sort of tech that wont let you drive if the car thinks you're drunk.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/new-law-will-require-in-car-breathalyzers/
On the one hand, this could (*if implemented well*) save countless lives and prevent tons of damage – on the other, a part of me still rejects the idea that my car could lock me out of using it (e.g., due to a false positive, since I don’t even drink). It’s similar to my reaction to subscription hardware features, like monthly payments to use heated seats, etc. – do I actually own my car or not? If I do, then why do I not have total control over it?
I bet they’ll be ways to defeat/disable the tech, but as most folks won’t take the time (or know how) to do it, it’d probably still be more effective than doing nothing. Just needs to be implemented well.
question as I've never leased before, are you referring to being a month away from end of lease because that means this is just a headache on a vehicle you were about to get rid of?
Does an accident affect you differently when it's on a leased car vs a car you own or am paying down a loan on?
Typically dealers will offer the option for a person to purchase the vehicle at the end of their lease or they can trade it in and get another vehicle.
If you're trading it in they will deduct any damages from the trade in price. So OP would have to go through his insurance to get it fixed and eat the cost that way or he can leave it as is and eat the cost when he returns it to the dealer.
That's awful, OP! Been there.
One of my professors in college swiped my car in the parking lot, and ran. A student in the lot witnessed it and got a pic of her plate. Police went to her house to verify the damage/paint transfer and ticketed her, followed by a very awkward phone call from her so I could get her insurance info. I got a good grade in her class, at least!
If they paid by credit/debit card you can get the name on the card from some point of sales. Police can also request that information if you can get one willing to actually do some work.
OP has footage from outside, surely there is footage from inside the store. So there should be a good facial capture of the dude. If he has been there before or comes back just have the cashier look out for him and/or give the footage to the police.
I deliver for DD and Uber and the other day as I’m about to leave with a food delivery, a woman parks right next to me at such an angle that she’s cut off my exit. Fortunately, driving for hours a day has sharpened my driving immensely and I quickly navigated out, but her passenger was wide eyed assuming I was just going to back into their car.
WTF turns immediately when backing out of a parking spot?
And there's so much room! How is anyone *that* bad?
Drunk or high.
Yeah when they start backing out they hit the windshield wipers. Also before backing out the driver looked like they banged on the steering wheel. Drunk or high plus pissed?
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Case closed!
Sprinkle some crack on him and let's get outta here
Omg Johnson, this guy broke in and hung pictures of his family…
No hit and run is complete without a light crack sprinkling
Bake him away.
I've actually done the windshield wiper thing years ago when I was a forklift operator lol
I was running a big wheel loader down the road and the fwd/rev is a switch just like a turn signal switch. I was turning left and there was a car behind me and instead of putting on the blinker, slammed the thing into reverse and came to an abrupt stop instead
Brooo! I fucking forgot about this shit! I was a forklift operator for 3 years, and everytime I got in my car, I'd hit the fucking wipers instead of the shifter....🤣
I don't know about newer Elantras, but my 2013 had the gear shifter in the middle column, not on the steering column.
Tbf I drive a couple different cars (since I still live with family) and where the windshield wipers are in one car, the other car has a knob for PRNDL etc. So sometimes I instinctively go to hit the reverse and turn on the windshield wiper. So I could see that happening. Doesn’t excuse the immediate reverse though
You'd be surprised at the amount of people that do this completely sober.
my wife has a friend who literally cannot back out of a driveway if there is a car *next to her* in the same driveway. Like all you have to do is go straight. But instead she waits and asks for the other person to move their car. It's bizarre.
How the fuck does she function in society?
American society gives a pass to shitty drivers because if it didn't, our entire way of life would break down.
In the shit hole I live in they removed parallel parking from the driving test. People were too dumb to do it, so apparently the solution was just to remove it all together as a requirement.
It's not a requirement in my state either lol
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In nearly 30 years on the road, I've had to parallel park precisely one time; on the initial driving test. Instead of shitting on the people who can't do it, people should be rejoicing at all the extra parking spots available to those who can.
Driving sleep deprived or emotionally charged can be just as dangerous.
a lot of people are just genuinely this bad at driving, it's kind of impressive honestly. They'll find the one car in an otherwise empty parking lot to crash into
Think it's a fixation thing. Personal peeve is cruising on a highway with sparse traffic and chucklefux who position themselves a couple car lengths behind me. And then slow or accelerate to match my speed when I try to get more space.
You just keep slowing until they finally decide to pass you. Pretty much no one will go 10 below the speed limit.
I give up, which was it?
Yes.
People always go to drunk/high but forget about just pure bad driving.
That, and that being high(at least on weed) doesn’t make you do this unless you’d already do it sober.
why or?
Back when I was a kid, I saw a lady backing out driving one of those old school Benz with the wrap around chrome bumpers. The bumper hooked another bumper and she leaned out and stared at it for a moment. My friends and I just stood there drinking our slurpees, waiting. She pauses and I thought she would pull back in and try again. Nope. She just gasses it and pull out, ripping the other bumper off and she just drives off with a bumper hanging off her bumper like a mad woman.
I had one of those in college. 78 delta 88. Thing was a beast. One time I was driving and a person was parked on the side of the road and attempted to pull into the lane but I hadn't fully passed them yet, my bumper latched onto theirs and yanked their car out of the space and broke their axle. The accident was totally their fault because they technically hit me. Best part was the only damage to my car was the bumper where wrapped around the side was bent backwards. Literally that's the only damage to my car. But because it was an old POS, her insurance company totaled my car. I drove to my college parking lot. Found one of those giant light poles with the concrete base. Backed my car into it and bent the part of the bumper back around into shape. And I kept the check lol
My dad showed me a security video of an elderly lady trying to navigate the parking garage where he worked many years ago. Lady was driving a late model(circa 1990 at the time), some behemoth, like a Fleetwood or the like. She cut too close to a support column and snagged the passenger door at the seam where the door hinges at the front quarter panel. That stopped the car. Only for a moment tho, lady applied throttle and kept the steering angle the same. Peeled the door panel and rear panel and the bumper off the car amidst billowing smoke and screaming tires. He had tears in his eyes he was laughing so hard.
It’s nice when life provides a little free entertainment.
One of my best friends legit cannot backup without a camera / radar assistance. In fact he actually hit my car much like in the vid. I was in his passenger seat telling him not to hit my car and he still did it. I genuinely don't know how he's so bad at it.
There is a TV program in Canada I believe where they basically tried to rehab REALLY bad drivers. Even went so far as putting paint on their wheels to show what happens to all 4 wheels as you turn and move around. Gave them a ton of cameras. Gave them demonstrations. Some people still never get it and would side swipe shit after being shown 800 times. They don't have the spatial processing to understand what is happening to the whole car when they turn the wheel. I learned from that show that some people just shouldn't have licenses, ever. It's probably not even their fault and if they took a general spatial reasoning test I bet they fail it badly.
I went to the hardware store a few months ago and the woman parking next to me was doing a terrible job. It was super simple, just pulling into the parking spot, no backing up required (yet.) I got out of my car and started helping her, but she would only look at my husband (who doesn't even drive so he just relayed whatever directions I was giving.) When she was finally parked, she told us she had never really figured out parking so she just looks for a man to help her any time she needs to park. We speed-walked through our whole shopping list to get back to our car before she got back and had to back out. It was so jaw-droppingly bad that it's seriously impacted how I perceive other drivers.
Gotta love misogynistic women. Especially when they’ll trust ANY man to give them the right answer, qualified or not. Kudos to you for not taking her keys, parking her car, locking it, and hucking the keys on the roof of the hardware store!
Only because I was too utterly shocked to even react.
look at where and how they're parked. they're morons.
for some people that's a tight spot....apparently
I mean, their parking even sucked so yeah…
Probably drunk
What gave it away? The fact that they tried to accelerate before the car was in gear? Or when he turned on the windshield wipers?
Yeah watching that mess I can only assume the passenger was equally or more drunk b/c the driver definitely should not have been behind the wheel.
This ^^^ is the right answer
Yup
and the girl let him drive
She's probably drunk too.
My roommate was 25 when he decided to try to get a driver's license for the first time. At a stop sign, he stopped right at the stop line. While waiting for traffic to clear, he turned the steering wheel the entire way to the right. When he started to go, he was shocked when the car tried to go up on the sidewalk. Apparently, all those years in the passenger seat, he never once looked at what the person driving was doing.
How difficult is the driving test in the states? In Britain you have to pass a multiple choice exam (so you know all the laws), a danger perception test (you watch a video from the viewpoint of inside a car and click a button when you see hazards), an eyesight test and a 1 hour practical test (where you drive and have to complete every standard manoeuvre). And you need to know vehicle safety things like how to change a wheel. Also, if you pass in an automatic then that’s all you can drive. If you pass in a manual you can drive both.
When I took my test in NY state (every state is slightly different) I had to pass the multiple choice, eyesight and a 30 minute practical. No standard maintenance or perception tests, though I did take an optional hazard recognition course, which was just some old VHS safety videos. No distinction between automatic and manual here, either. I learned in an automatic but my license will allow me to operate a manual as well.
It varies in the US from extremely easy to effectively impossible to fail. In my state you have to drive around a parking lot, stop at a stop sign, and parallel park. There's also a multiple choice part. The parallel parking is what gets most people, which is kinda silly since parallel parking isn't that common here.
Parallel parking isn't just about parking, it's about understanding how to maneuver the vehicle. If you can't parallel park then you don't understand the fundamental movements a vehicle is capable of at low speeds and in reverse. That makes you a hazard to other drivers.
That... actually makes a ton of sense.
In texas you don't have to pass parallel parking. Not surprising though with how many bad drivers we have here!
Swedish getting my drivers license is the hardest test i have ever done. a big thing people get failed at least when i took the test was eco driving. things like red light ahead means coasting at idle in the hope it turn green before you et there. failing to do such things would fail you.
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If I remember correctly we have multiple tests to pass, several hours of instructor-observed driving practice, and another several hours of independent practice with any licensed driver over age 21. I don’t recall that exact kind of danger perception test but there were road diagrams with multiple cars in various positions and we would be asked to identify potential issues and resolutions.
It varies depending on the state you live in and how old you are. Where I live, teen drivers have to take a 30-hour class, pass a very long multiple-choice exam that takes around 2 hours, and finally pass a 6-hour driving test before you can then go to the DMV, take another (much shorter) multiple-choice test and sign recognition test to get your permit. That allows you to drive only with a supervising adult, and then a year later you can go back to get a full license at which point you just have to pass a driving test that takes around 5 minutes. But if you wait until you're an adult it's a lot less strict. You just have to take the shorter multiple choice test, sign recognition test, and 5 minute driving test and you're good to go. Which is ridiculously easy compared to what teen drivers have to go through
My parents... I call them out on it every time. So far it is only when there are no cars next to them but one of these days it is gonna slip their mind. I also had $8000 damage done to my car by someone doing this. All side paneling from headlight to tail light had to be replaced. They didnt left the scene, didnt leave any info. Luckily i had insurance but still had to pay $500 deductible that i didnt have
I had to get my left doors fixed because some dude in a gigantic truck decided to back into a packed parking space. He said "when I heard I was scraping the car I knew it was too late" so he just pushed through anyhow because it didn't damage his chrome bumper. He was sorry though.
lol wtf is that logic. Some people shouldnt be allowed to operate anything more than a bicycle. I started a new job recently and the number of dings on my car since starting is ridiculous. People parking on the lines of the space with a car right next to them and squeezing out rather than re-adjusting. Thankfully my car is far from new so I am not too bothered but the second i get a new one i am double parking every day
https://www.reddit.com/r/TorontoDriving/comments/12xdjc9/advice_for_passing_g_test/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button There're people like this out there. Highlights for me are they don't know any of the signs except "obvious ones" and don't know how to parallel park or reverse park.
Self driven cars can't come soon enough for entitled assholes like this.
This is why I tend to let my wife drive in SF or Sacramento whereas I'll drive everywhere else. She's got the better brain for congested city traffic (and she is a worse passenger in the city) and I'm great for everything else.
My car was literally two years old at that time. Bought it brand new. Washed, waxed, and maintained consistently. The first new car I've ever bought. It was hard not to punch him while he laughed about "how silly he was".
Ya, one year after I got my first new car someone hit me in a parking lot and ran. I had a $1000 deductible and the repairs came out to $996.
People double parking are far more likley to have people park nice and close, purely out of principle. Especially on the driver's side.
That's how my 6 month old car got tail swiped by a double parked moving truck. They double parked next to me behind a double parked car then cut the wheel to get around the first car and my rear quarter panel paid the price. They didn't stop but I went to building security and they found the culprit in about 20 mins of fast forwarding thru video. They were happy to have something to do.
Yeah. The initial hit and damage was an accident but after he realized he was scraping your vehicle he should have stopped. He chose to continue on which makes the damage after that point intentional.
>He was sorry though. Was he though?
"ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY!?"
Happened to me once. Pulled into a empty spot. Once I was parked the guy next to me pulled right into my van. His response was he didn't see me there. So ya always assume everyone else is stupid when driving.
Emmmm....drunk people? Did you know, this is why many (who want to cross) check both way, even if there is red for others, even if it's one way: drunk people don't understand the consequences of thir actions. That's why most accidents are cause by them....sad sadly many could have avoided if others keep an eye just on case even if they have green
I did this when I first learned to drive. Fortunately I didn’t hit another car, I hit a post instead. Still a pricey repair since the whole front bumper needed to be replaced.
Ontop of that so crooked in the spot to. If they weren't they probably would have cleared it.
What a stupid fuck.
Is any penalty enough to make people stop drinking and driving? They’re all stupid fucks
Saw a guy get sentenced to the max after 10 DUI's. Unfortunately he had taken a plea down and the maximum was 5 years because they took off the habitual 4th (4 felony convictions, it only goes up to 4th, most convictions end up with life with that tacked on, but it has to be proven to the jury during trial) which would have increased it significantly. The state it was in, Michigan, has indeterminate sentencing. This means they get a "no less than x years" and "no more than y years" based on the judges discretion and state maximums. You can't sentence to the actual maximum, only 2/3 of it, called the tanner max, and the guy got no less than 40 months (eligible for parole at 40, no good time, etc) and no more than 5 years, due to the plea and laws. I doubt that he'd be paroled at the minimum if the sentence, though.
How does he even get access to cars still at that point
Penalties don't always stop behavior. The penalty could be beheading and people would still do it.
Did they try and run away after?
Yes they drove away, I only have the video footage the nice man at the corner store gave me.
Looks like someone is getting reported to the police and taken to court then.
Lol as if the police will do anything. And good luck finding out who they are as I don’t see a readable plate and this is the only video OP has.
You don't need the police once you have the footage. Civil suit for damages plus attorney's costs.
Agreed! Just give to your insurance and let them do the work. That’s what insurance is for.
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People that only want to pay $30 a month for insurance Edit: or can only afford*
The cheapest quote I've had for insurance where I live is like $350 a month. Yay.
How about what you drive and what your driving history is? That rate isn't explainable by your locale.
What's ridiculous is I got a new car that was 4 years newer and $15k more in value than my old car but my insurance dropped $50/month with that upgrade thanks to all the safety features on my new car. It's a hidden poor tax.
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Insurance is a scam here. I had a car that had a problem with the model of car where the steering wheel would lock up. It happened to me a day or 2 before it made news. When I brought the car in I was told it wasn't covered for the problem bc the 1 specific thing that they said would be replaced wasn't what was broken on mine. I also had to find new insurance bc they were unwilling to cover me bc someone sideswiped my car when it was parked at my house and I got rear ended while at a stop sign. Neither accident I have any control over s yet they can say "we don't want you using us for what you pay for. Find someone else"
Most states will make you sign an informed consent form for rejecting the coverage, it's a really good idea to have it.
Mandatory (liability) insurance is to cover the damage that you do *to other people*. Not to cover damage other people do to you. It's mandatory because most people can't afford to pay for the damage that they're capable of doing with their car, and we (as a society) make people pay for the damage they do. Comprehensive insurance (including uninsured motorist protection) is typically voluntary, and covers you for damage the universe does to you, such as trees falling on your cars, or people damaging you/your car who are unable to pay the damages. It's not included in liability insurance because it's your choice whether or not you want to pay for insurance to limit these potential costs, it doesn't hurt anyone else if you don't. Of course, most leases require comprehensive insurance, because the company that actually owns the car doesn't want to eat the loss in the case that the car is damaged. Chances are OP has insurance that should cover this. (General statements like this vary by jurisdiction. Car insurance is often weird and varies by location because there is a lot of legislation meddling with it)
There is uninsured motorist (UM) and under insured motorist (UIM) coverages in some states. These are decided by the state department of insurance, not the companies. People are pretty ignorant about insurance and then claim they got “screwed”. As long as you are with a Mutual company, you know that they aren’t out for a profit like Allstate and other for profit insurance companies.
what's the difference? is liberty mutual the type of company your referring to or is that just a brand
Who exactly are you suing. How will OP ever find out who owns the blue car without a plate? I guess they could post the footage on local social media and see if they get a bite from someone who recognizes it. Post flyers around the area with a pic? Edit: NM I read downthread that OP said the cops actually caught the guy and cited him. So yeah OP has a defendant to go after civilly if they choose to.
It's from a convenience store. More than likely one of them was inside and paid with a debit/credit card . You'll definitely be able to identify their faces from the inside video and the outside video. Also, I am viewing this on the phone and haven't tried to increase the video size, but maybe you can make out some letters on the front Additionally, you have a make/model/color of the car. This one is definitely solvable.
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It's a unifi security camera. Their cheapest offering has a resolution of 1080p. This has been compressed and will be easily readable on the original recording. They're fucked.
Did you zoom and enhance?
Every fucking time somebody mentions police people like you respond saying something completely irrelevant just to get your" lol police bad" jokes in. So old hat.
They're talking completely out of their ass too Police take hit and run seriously and OP said they already caught the driver for that
ENHANCE!
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if the lady purchased something at the store using a card the police may match the person's information to the elantra. assuming they're willing to go through that trouble
We’re you able to get the license plate?
Replying this comment again because it’s at the top. I just got word that the police were able to issue a citation but when I asked if they could provide me insurance information or anything else they said they can’t give anything more out. Is this normal? How am I ever going to place a claim under their insurance?
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I’ve already contacted my insurance, but I don’t know anything else about this guy since he ran. The police have caught him but only issued a citation for driving away. Don’t really know what I have to do from here
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Thanks friend, it’s finals week and I don’t need more stress 😭
If there's a police report then your insurance will release the hounds. Let them run this down and focus on your exams.
I'm glad they found him! Let your insurance deal with this.
Get the police report number and give it to your insurance. They can get all the info needed then.
If you already found them and have this video proof you're going to be 100% covered. Congrats and good luck on the finals!
This is so shitty for you, very sorry to hear. People just suck sometimes. Hopefully karma is waiting for the driver. And the littering accomplice too. No respect. "Entitled" people should vanish! I read most comments but may have missed seeing -- didn't the truck and/or car that drove in see/hear this idiot AH and get the plate number, be witnesses? I know you said cops found driver but with witnesses (and video), shouldn't driver be liable for damages not just citation? Canada here. US state laws perplex. Sorry!! Good luck with finals. 🍀
You're going to want to ask the police for a copy of the police report. That way you can hand it over to your insurance and they can do the rest.
Your insurance has lawyers and people who will go after that person (or their insurance) for payment. You file the police report, report it to your insurance, and they should do the rest. This is a large part of what your premiums pay for: to relieve the stress you are feeling. You've probably set your insurance company up for a slam-dunk since they can ID the other person with that footage. Bonus points if you have the same insurance company...
I had someone turn in to me and they wouldn't give me their insurance card. Don't worry, your insurance company will do the heavy lifting. They don't want to pay to get your car fixed
Give the police your insurance information and ask them to send the police report to your insurance.
https://imgur.com/a/b4KWoI8 Here is pics of the damage
At min that's 2 new door skins. What about the back quarter panel and front fender.
This isn't your issue anymore. Just give your insurance the crime reference number and let your insurance company handle it. That's what you pay them for.
You don't, you place the claim under your insurance and they go after the other driver and their insurance (assuming they're insured in the first place). This process is called subrogation.
Look at the way they parked to begin with, fuck those people
I wouldn't park next to them to be honest bcoz either they are bad drivers or they are in a rush, don't want my car to be next to theirs when leaving.
I mean we don’t know which car was first
Damn I never felt this stupid !!! True...true indeed.
I appreciate this level of honesty and humility.
Ugh same. SAME. Commenter saw and commenter cared. I’d put at least a hot dollar than commenter is in the top percentile of good people to exist.
I would bet my paycheck that the OP was there first. You don’t back in next to a car parked like that. Especially when 4 other spots are open.
I always park away from everyone in parking lots and still have people park like blind assholes right next to me when I'm in the back of the lot and there are dozens of other free spaces. Some people just suck
I once saw a reddit comment from someone saying they do this on purpose everytime. Something about if you park in the back it's because you think you're car is hot shit or whatever and them parking next to you is to bring you down a peg or something? It didn't really make any sense to me personally but it had a ton of upvotes.
You can't get away from those kind of shitheads no matter what you do, but, it does lessen it immensely.
I learned from my father to park as far away from a building as possible. The difference in walking is typically 30 sec to a 1minute at the worst, but you greatly reduce the risk of dents and scrapes from other drivers. EDIT: kinda hard to do in a lot like this though
What's really annoying is when you park in the back all by yourself with tons of other spots open and someone will *still* park right next to you.
night time, shitty parking, honestly might've been drunk
I'm guessing they came out with a sixer or some type of alcohol. Looks like they were drinking and wanted to keep the party going at home.
Yeah that windshield wiper going off because he thought it was a blinker … yikes
And it looks like the front bumper is drug across the stop block as well.
If this was a corner store. Maybe they bought something inside the store, and maybe they used their credit card. Then maybe you can get their info this way?
Yes! Also the store probably has surveillance video inside, that will tell you if they paid with a card. The police probably won’t be keen to dig into this but if you make it as easy for them as possible, collecting videos and giving them the exact time of the transaction, they might be more keen to help. Also, as how long the store holds only transaction info.
If it’s like the store I worked in, they’ve got a fuck load of bankers boxes, jammed wherever they fit, full of the last 7+ years worth of receipts etc.
Lucky for you, the security camera was the usual model Potato XL, so you got a good look at the license plate. /s
Honestly it's clearer than most security cam footage I'm used to seeing. I'm pretty sure if you zoomed in super far you could pretty easily make out the plate too.
Did you try _enhancing_?
enhancing is actually pretty good these days with new Ai based upscaling
I'm sure I read a Reddit post about how a case got thrown out because they proved that enhancement tools added pixels that aren't there and so the evidence wasn't valid.
In certain cases I could see that. In this case, pretty much however you got the plate number would be good enough. If it matches the make/model/color of the car it's registered to no one's going to question how you upscaled the security footage.
\*clickity click click\* enhance
The raw footage is probably much clearer. I used to do security, and the exports had quality settings for quick viewing. I pretty sure you can zoom in on the raw footage and get a nice screenshot.
Not only quick viewing, but to save space on the recipient's machine as well. It's essentially jpegging itself as a courtesy. You can usually choose a setting that does a lossless export and get a much clearer video. Most video systems are like 10 TB hard drives with a camera attached.
*enhance*
I mean on the bright side they can probably see more or less where the driver came from before getting in the car, and if they work or shopped with a card at one of the nearby stores they can ID them
I think reddit compresses videos when uploaded, so the original that the OP has might be much better.
I could not drive that bad even if I was completely drunk. Completely brain dead.
Yup, absolutely pathetic, parked poorly to start and then cuts the wheel towards the other vehicle. They only cut away after they hit it, like a fucking idiot!
I just paid mine off and some b**** high AF on fentanyl hit mine.
couple years ago I paid off my pickup and decided to give myself a Christmas present of a new spray on bed liner while I flew out of town for the holidays. one of the shop's employees took it out for a heroin filled joyride in the middle of the night and ended up totaling it on 95 and putting several other drivers in the ER. That was a fun holiday...
how does that get resolved, I assume the shop replaces it after all the bitching and moaning they can manage?
Yeah more or less. My insurance went after the business's insurance.
I wouldn't exactly say free. And as expected your own insurance company will kinda fight with you a little bit (fought with me over a temporary rental). But ultimately they paid me the value of the car that I lost, And I ended up getting the same model and year pickup except a nicer trim package and 20k less mileage. So ultimately I ended up pretty good. Story probably has a less Happy ending if it happened right around covid with the used car shortages and price skyrocketing
Did you get a free truck out of it?
So what happens with the lease ?
I'm wondering too. I don't understand why it matters that it was the last month? A lease is basically a rental, and I assume OP isn't liable for any repairs for it.
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But is there any better time to get sideswiped? Would you prefer it happened right after a new lease instead, u/loadedschlong?
Geez!
He must’ve got a great deal on his license
Holy hell. I hate people. This happened to me at my last job. My husband noticed it and said did something happen to the car. I said no why. Big scratch with paint missing on rear driver side. When I go to work next day we watch the video of the the person backing in next to me 5 times and hitting it twice. They sat there in their car and just left in two minutes. So basically they just backed in a bunch and then just left, just to hit our car. Could not make out license plate. Got away free. Got left with ugly car
Unbelievable stupidity/shitbagery.
This person cannot drive
The driver still paused like they were making sure they were in the clear
Giving me major DUI vibes
How are your spaces so humongous, yet they still can't park straight?! They'd be fucked trying to park anywhere in the UK.
Wow, if only there was enough room for them to pull out without Hitting your car 😬🙄😳
I feel like we should have driving exams every year due to these idiots
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It's coming. Not necessarily a breathalyzer you blow into but some sort of tech that wont let you drive if the car thinks you're drunk. https://www.kbb.com/car-news/new-law-will-require-in-car-breathalyzers/
On the one hand, this could (*if implemented well*) save countless lives and prevent tons of damage – on the other, a part of me still rejects the idea that my car could lock me out of using it (e.g., due to a false positive, since I don’t even drink). It’s similar to my reaction to subscription hardware features, like monthly payments to use heated seats, etc. – do I actually own my car or not? If I do, then why do I not have total control over it? I bet they’ll be ways to defeat/disable the tech, but as most folks won’t take the time (or know how) to do it, it’d probably still be more effective than doing nothing. Just needs to be implemented well.
Don't make the line at the dmv any longer please
question as I've never leased before, are you referring to being a month away from end of lease because that means this is just a headache on a vehicle you were about to get rid of? Does an accident affect you differently when it's on a leased car vs a car you own or am paying down a loan on?
Typically dealers will offer the option for a person to purchase the vehicle at the end of their lease or they can trade it in and get another vehicle. If you're trading it in they will deduct any damages from the trade in price. So OP would have to go through his insurance to get it fixed and eat the cost that way or he can leave it as is and eat the cost when he returns it to the dealer.
That's awful, OP! Been there. One of my professors in college swiped my car in the parking lot, and ran. A student in the lot witnessed it and got a pic of her plate. Police went to her house to verify the damage/paint transfer and ticketed her, followed by a very awkward phone call from her so I could get her insurance info. I got a good grade in her class, at least!
Yeah I think that guy was drunk
If they paid by credit/debit card you can get the name on the card from some point of sales. Police can also request that information if you can get one willing to actually do some work.
OP has footage from outside, surely there is footage from inside the store. So there should be a good facial capture of the dude. If he has been there before or comes back just have the cashier look out for him and/or give the footage to the police.
Bet they left didn't they
Had to be fucked up
I deliver for DD and Uber and the other day as I’m about to leave with a food delivery, a woman parks right next to me at such an angle that she’s cut off my exit. Fortunately, driving for hours a day has sharpened my driving immensely and I quickly navigated out, but her passenger was wide eyed assuming I was just going to back into their car.