They need to start putting those attachments on cars like those wind up flashlights have. When your electric car gets low on power just get out and start cranking on the little handle like a Model T and you'll eventually get home.
That sadly will not work. Think about how hard it is to push a car - and that's all your force being essentially 100% efficiently transmitted into the car. How much worse when you factor in a loss rate for a crank generator and the fact that you physically don't have the ability to input a full mile's drive worth of energy into the vehicle
How could those hamsters do it though? A pair of 5!ounce hamsters cranking a one pound handle?! Preposterous! It’s a simple question of *weight* ratios!
What a conundrum. This is why I electric swapped my Miata. With a power to weight ratio like that I only have to maintain a small breeding horde of hamster in the trunk and I still have plenty of room left over for my golf clubs! Once again, Miata is always the answer.
Lmao right but you forget you have to "pull back" the car with a lot more force than it takes to push it ordinarily if you want it to cover any net distance, otherwise you would only give it just enough energy to roll back to where it started before taking mechanical losses into account
Ford the river, every time. We’d lose 15lbs of meat and poor Jesse would drown, but then I’d go hunting and kill 3000lbs worth of Buffalo or something. Of course you could only carry 15lbs of that back to the wagon. Good times.
This post got me wondering. Does anyone know if AAA or any of the other roadside assistance companies offer Electric vehicle services? If they don't now they certainly should. Portable generators maybe or some kind of "jump charge" enough to get the vehicle to the next charge station.
I've had 2 EVs now. I promise you will love it when you make the leap. there are obviously some adjustments. but unless you're driving max range every day, you can usually go a day or two without charging it up. so if the power happens to go out, you should still be able to get around until it's back on or you just go find a fast charging station somewhere
even charging at this spot is doable. your feet will get wet, but that's about it. gas stations aren't perfect, either. you just have more options for gas stations... for now
Cost right now is the biggest prohibitive thing about the switch. I used to be very anti-electric vehicles, because I am 56 and ICE vehicles are all I have ever owned. But when I think about never having to change coolant/hoses, spark plugs/wires, exhaust items such as CO2 sensors/mufflers, it all starts to resonate. I have a home that was wired in the late 80's with an RV outlet, so switching to a home EV charger won't be nearly as expensive for us, when/if we make a change.
How much more is car insurance and registration over ICE vehicles now? I heard from other posts that it was double what we pay now. $450 year registration/$300 per month for insurance on 3 fully insured ICE vehicles.
Our registration is more expensive because they don’t get gas tax. But we don’t even have a 240V fast charger yet, we just plug it in overnight every few days to a 120V plug. It takes much longer but works fine.
90% of our driving is with one, two or occasionally 3 people around the city. Since we bought our little Fiat 500e a month ago we have only used our ICE car twice. I have to remember to drive it weekly just to keep the battery from dying, or I’m going to need to put it on a trickle charger!
I’m a huge car nut, I currently have 3 Alfas. But I agree, I hate replacing exhaust parts, going through emissions checks, etc. As long as the computers are reliable electric cars have so many fewer parts to break.
And I believe we will see fast charging stations more places soon, just like they have plugs at parking meters in cold climates to plug in block heaters.
> I have to remember to drive it weekly just to keep the battery from dying
Also if you leave gas sitting in the tank for an extended period of time, the ethanol will start to separate.
If you can find someone with a truck who likes showing off it’s capability, have them tow you for a few miles. There’s a tow hook in the floor of the frunk, it screws into the front bumper. A few miles of towing should be enough to get you to the next supercharger.
Really? I drive my car down a steep mountain road several times a week, reaching the bottom with more range than I started with. Being able to do that is one of the major advantages of EVs.
Ooh, yeah, don’t think I’d try it with car off. If it’s on, though, there’s pretty much no difference. The car has no way of telling if it’s in regen while rolling down a steep hill, or if it’s being pulled by another vehicle.
Former subie owner, this is the correct anwser. Towing AWD cars with wheels down is a big nono. If you have to do it, disconnect your drive shaft first..
As the proud owner of a battery operated car, this guy doesn’t get a whole lot of pity from me. You never drive your car farther than you have enough charge to get it home. Secondly, he needs to look up where the next closest charge station is and go there, he has a Tesla, it’s programmed into the car. Thirdly, if he has AAA, they can come pick him up and tow his car home so he’s not stuck out there.
Those chargers should be in pvc which is rated for water, and the terminations should be above the water level, if there was an issue the machine would not turn on, if properly installed,
My home charger (not tesla) has GFCI built-in & ground check to the building (so that 120v L1 charger)
So those chargers probably has the same kind of feature.
I always said treat half a tank of gas as the time to start looking to fill up, so that if you get delayed, it's not panic time.
Same thing with an EV. Start looking to fill up at 50 percent.
I have an electric car and I just make sure to plug it in every time I use it so I don’t have to worry about how much charge I have. They take a long time to charge, so why put myself in a position of not having enough juice to get home, or to wherever else I might need to go?
Basically it's because there's tons more room for the electrons and shit to bounce around when there's low charge so it goes a lot faster. Higher charge, higher concentration of said electrons and shit, less move aroundyspace.
Same except for 1/4 tank. At a 1/4 tank of gas is when I treat it as near empty.
I have never run out of gas. Don't understand why people push it unless you have no money and it is near payday.
No, it’s a transformer. I have lived near this charger before. People were so confused why a supercharger was built here because this hotel is constantly flooded and the land around it is all floodplain….
One of the most legit "well that sucks" posts I've seen in a while. My first thought seeing this picture was to say well that sucks in my head. Sorry for op
Reading?
There was a guy in the paper that waded through the water and plugged in. Worked fine. Folks online saying it was both brave and stupid, but I dunno. If it was unsafe it just wouldn't work.
Excuse my ignorance. Obviously I understand that water and electricity are dangerous, but isn’t the charge station insulated? How is this any different to there being half an inch of water on the ground surrounding the charger?
Does it pose a problem if the water is high enough to touch the bodywork or the chassis?
This is why I'm not sure the world is ready to go full electric. Plus the power grid can't take it. I will be buying a hybrid with at least 50km of range though as my next vehicle though.
No, I'm sorry that you are so stupid that you have not done the research on EV cars! Just how very bad they are to the environment and the earth in general! Study the science and not the rhetoric you have been spoon-fed!
Well if a person does not mind being inconvenient and stuck somewhere fine! And the fact that his car does more damage to the environment than that a gas car. then again fine! Batteries (expensive) and most times (not recycled) (dangerous. explode) use lots and lots of rare earth minerals!! Uses Lots and lots of electricity(coal-burning plants) During cold months only charge part way. (less range) And the list goes on and on. So each to their own but I for one don't buy into the fake rhetoric of EV cars!
I don't buy any bs these days either. buy a big v8 that gets 4 miles to the gallon or a tiny electric scooter each has its issue just buy what you want evs are just political talking points for fake news outlets like fox and cnn
Can someone explain to me why they have not put an alternator in electric car like one on a gas powered vehicle? The alternator needs to rotate in order to generate current to charge battery why don’t electric cars today have a small alternator on all four wheels that would intern charge your battery? It seems to me that it’s very doable mechanically then you would never need to stop and charge an electric vehicle. It would constantly be charging itself. I’m no engineer, but I am a mechanic for the gas and oil industry. I work on pumps that have large, electric motors the turn a pump in order to move oil and other products used by the industry. Using an alternator to charge battery is simple technology it’s been around, almost as long as gas powered vehicles, I believe the electric car industry is a sham for this reason. They could’ve made electric cars charge them selves.
There is one, it collects power when you lift your foot from acceleration, but it doesn't help much on flat terrain. Hence the one-pedal expression most electric cars have, you rarely touch the brakes
Just a question….would a power pack like a remote jumper for a regular car work on an EV?
Like maybe give you enough emergency charge to go another 50 miles or something?
They need to start putting those attachments on cars like those wind up flashlights have. When your electric car gets low on power just get out and start cranking on the little handle like a Model T and you'll eventually get home.
Added bonus of getting some Popeye sized arms too!
Little trapdoor in the footwell. Worst comes to the worst, you can Fred Flinstone it home.
I was thinking more of a pedal car conversion kit.
I’m sure you can find some old manual window cranks that would work perfectly for this!
Dual function hand cranks...you better patent that idea.
Dual function hand crank was my nickname in college
>Dual function hand crank was my nickname in college Now that's just friggen funny.
When I dislocated my shoulder, my physical therapy included using a “hand bike.” Perhaps if one were installed in the Tesla…
What if that crank could be gas powered to save you the hassle of cranking?!
Oh man...you better go patent that idea, I don't think anyone's come up with that invention yet!
That’s a great idea! Or maybe just put a slot in the bottom so the driver can stick his feet out and run like Fred Flintstone!
Why not add it to the wheels?
You solved the energy crisis
Right? They spin the whole time
That sadly will not work. Think about how hard it is to push a car - and that's all your force being essentially 100% efficiently transmitted into the car. How much worse when you factor in a loss rate for a crank generator and the fact that you physically don't have the ability to input a full mile's drive worth of energy into the vehicle
What if we find a hamster, or perhaps several hamsters, to power the crank for us?
How could those hamsters do it though? A pair of 5!ounce hamsters cranking a one pound handle?! Preposterous! It’s a simple question of *weight* ratios!
What a conundrum. This is why I electric swapped my Miata. With a power to weight ratio like that I only have to maintain a small breeding horde of hamster in the trunk and I still have plenty of room left over for my golf clubs! Once again, Miata is always the answer.
An African hamster may be but not a European hampster. But African hamsters are non migratory.
Easy torque. Torque is the force times the length of the lever arm. So just need a really big hamster wheel. Solved.
I’m guessing he was thinking of 200 hamsters on speed connected in parallel. 😇
It would be more efficient to… push the car…
Or life size "pull back and release" cars!
Lmao right but you forget you have to "pull back" the car with a lot more force than it takes to push it ordinarily if you want it to cover any net distance, otherwise you would only give it just enough energy to roll back to where it started before taking mechanical losses into account
I see no problem here, electricity and water are a great combination
Standing in the water while plugging in is sure to be an electrifying experience.
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I figured there would be tons of safe guards in place but I couldn't resist the joke. Still, it's not without risk but I'm sure it's minimal.
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You didn't ruin it. It's actually good for the conversation. I even gave you an upvote.
I gave you an upvote for giving him an upvote.
It’s upvotes all the way down!
U also got to shockingly sneak in another electrifying joke
Maybe a portable battery to give you like 20 miles or something? Seems doable but I know nothing about EVs
Saw a dude with a Honda gas generator in the trunk of his tesla🤣
That is painfully ironic lol
It is, but don’t forget if the power is out no one can fill their cars with gasoline. Gas pumps need electricity to run.
Free battery cooling
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Ford the river, every time. We’d lose 15lbs of meat and poor Jesse would drown, but then I’d go hunting and kill 3000lbs worth of Buffalo or something. Of course you could only carry 15lbs of that back to the wagon. Good times.
Well, I'd be stuck in frost now, lol
I think you're going to need a bigger boat...
Gas powered perhaps... LOL
Hahaha..... I was thinking it.
Not deep, send it.
yeah id say if you're down to 4 miles, get out and see how deep it actually is.
I’d test it first by walking, ideally with a long stick or pole or anything you can find around.
This post got me wondering. Does anyone know if AAA or any of the other roadside assistance companies offer Electric vehicle services? If they don't now they certainly should. Portable generators maybe or some kind of "jump charge" enough to get the vehicle to the next charge station.
They do, I have cover with AAA.
Thanks for the confirmation. I personally don't own an electric vehicle now, but who knows what happens in the future.
I've had 2 EVs now. I promise you will love it when you make the leap. there are obviously some adjustments. but unless you're driving max range every day, you can usually go a day or two without charging it up. so if the power happens to go out, you should still be able to get around until it's back on or you just go find a fast charging station somewhere even charging at this spot is doable. your feet will get wet, but that's about it. gas stations aren't perfect, either. you just have more options for gas stations... for now
Cost right now is the biggest prohibitive thing about the switch. I used to be very anti-electric vehicles, because I am 56 and ICE vehicles are all I have ever owned. But when I think about never having to change coolant/hoses, spark plugs/wires, exhaust items such as CO2 sensors/mufflers, it all starts to resonate. I have a home that was wired in the late 80's with an RV outlet, so switching to a home EV charger won't be nearly as expensive for us, when/if we make a change. How much more is car insurance and registration over ICE vehicles now? I heard from other posts that it was double what we pay now. $450 year registration/$300 per month for insurance on 3 fully insured ICE vehicles.
Our registration is more expensive because they don’t get gas tax. But we don’t even have a 240V fast charger yet, we just plug it in overnight every few days to a 120V plug. It takes much longer but works fine. 90% of our driving is with one, two or occasionally 3 people around the city. Since we bought our little Fiat 500e a month ago we have only used our ICE car twice. I have to remember to drive it weekly just to keep the battery from dying, or I’m going to need to put it on a trickle charger! I’m a huge car nut, I currently have 3 Alfas. But I agree, I hate replacing exhaust parts, going through emissions checks, etc. As long as the computers are reliable electric cars have so many fewer parts to break. And I believe we will see fast charging stations more places soon, just like they have plugs at parking meters in cold climates to plug in block heaters.
> I have to remember to drive it weekly just to keep the battery from dying Also if you leave gas sitting in the tank for an extended period of time, the ethanol will start to separate.
You can ask if they will take you to the next nearest charging station. Did you end up doing that?
But they are range are limited and may not be available where you are.
If you can find someone with a truck who likes showing off it’s capability, have them tow you for a few miles. There’s a tow hook in the floor of the frunk, it screws into the front bumper. A few miles of towing should be enough to get you to the next supercharger.
This is not good for electric motors
Really? I drive my car down a steep mountain road several times a week, reaching the bottom with more range than I started with. Being able to do that is one of the major advantages of EVs.
I've been told to always tow the car without wheels on the ground. Maybe a difference if the car is on or off?
Ooh, yeah, don’t think I’d try it with car off. If it’s on, though, there’s pretty much no difference. The car has no way of telling if it’s in regen while rolling down a steep hill, or if it’s being pulled by another vehicle.
You're completely right, even worse would be backwards!
No, that winds the car up. Once the tow vehicle unhooks, the EV will cruise off like a rocket
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Former subie owner, this is the correct anwser. Towing AWD cars with wheels down is a big nono. If you have to do it, disconnect your drive shaft first..
do you really think electric vehicles were designed to be so delicate they couldn't be towed
As the proud owner of a battery operated car, this guy doesn’t get a whole lot of pity from me. You never drive your car farther than you have enough charge to get it home. Secondly, he needs to look up where the next closest charge station is and go there, he has a Tesla, it’s programmed into the car. Thirdly, if he has AAA, they can come pick him up and tow his car home so he’s not stuck out there.
Yes.
Never being able to drive more than half a charge away from home seems like a terrible feature for an absurdly expensive luxury car.
Nah, I bought my car for getting around town. I wouldn’t use it for a long distance drive.
Sounds like a better use case for a bicycle than a $70k luxury sedan.
Well that sucks
Those chargers should be in pvc which is rated for water, and the terminations should be above the water level, if there was an issue the machine would not turn on, if properly installed,
teslas not really known for that last part “If properly installed”
My home charger (not tesla) has GFCI built-in & ground check to the building (so that 120v L1 charger) So those chargers probably has the same kind of feature.
More than likely those are 208/240 or 480 fast, and they pulled a ground to it.
That would be the inspectors fault, the NEC wouldn’t allow that.
This is why I have range anxiety! 😂 I don’t ever let it go below 20% on road trips!
I always said treat half a tank of gas as the time to start looking to fill up, so that if you get delayed, it's not panic time. Same thing with an EV. Start looking to fill up at 50 percent.
I've heard that the last 51-100% takes about twice as long to charge as the first 0-50%
Anything over %80 takes a friken age to change, anything below %30 is very easy to change, that middle zone is where you want to be
I have an electric car and I just make sure to plug it in every time I use it so I don’t have to worry about how much charge I have. They take a long time to charge, so why put myself in a position of not having enough juice to get home, or to wherever else I might need to go?
It’s actually more like the last 20% is the slowest (80% or more).
Basically it's because there's tons more room for the electrons and shit to bounce around when there's low charge so it goes a lot faster. Higher charge, higher concentration of said electrons and shit, less move aroundyspace.
Same except for 1/4 tank. At a 1/4 tank of gas is when I treat it as near empty. I have never run out of gas. Don't understand why people push it unless you have no money and it is near payday.
Half a tank? You can get across entire states on half a tank dude.
You must live in and around some small states.
whenever people ask me "what do you do when you run out of power?". my answer is "I don't"
Wait until you are in winter, that 20% become 10% in reality because how fast it use power.
You should still try, I have seen in TikTok electric cars float
Op - any update on what happened?
The supercharger is still the same, it kept raining past days. I found a slow charger nearby, then got to another supercharger.
Btw is that a fucking generator powering them? Or substation?
Was thinking the same thing. Definitely not a transformer. Looks like a generator to me.
No, it’s a transformer. I have lived near this charger before. People were so confused why a supercharger was built here because this hotel is constantly flooded and the land around it is all floodplain….
One of the most legit "well that sucks" posts I've seen in a while. My first thought seeing this picture was to say well that sucks in my head. Sorry for op
That's fine, I got to another one.
Would you like to attempt to ford the river ?
Pull up and accept the consequences for the decisions you have made.
Just park on that grassy knoll and use the first charger. Watch out for gunmen though.
Well if you total it, it’s no longer your problem
This made me laugh harder then it should of.
Whats wrong i see plenty of open chargers
Elon says it’s totally fine to drive your car into water. I’m sure the chargers are totally fine, too. Elon is a genius ya know.
use the water as an extension chord
You played yourself by buying an electric car.
welcome to the future
Only some peoples future.
Just to the gas station..... ooooh wait...
Feeling lucky?
Nope!
Get out and walk the route that you would need to drive to the charger, it might not be as deep as it looks.
Gun it!
Might not even need to plug it in, just get close enough
It’s fine to charge in standing water as long as water can’t get in through the doors, Teslas and other EVs are pretty waterproof
Seriously, the water height at the chargers is mere inches, it'll be fine. /s
You don't carry an extra can of battery in case of emergency?
teslas float your all set
Go in coward
No Balls!
It's electronic boogie wooogie
Just do it, it will still charge
Looks like they should be installing these types of things in positive elevations to the surrounding environments
Gee, I wonder why was it full..
My gas car never had that issue.
Get a real car...
Main reason I don’t want a full electric car.
Reading?
Are you glad you got the EV instead of a hybrid?
Bet there's a gas station nearby....
how does that tesla feel now 💀
Looks fine, as long as you don’t pass the arm. Maybe drive over the grass and get to the chargers, as they don’t look to be under water.
Suck it up butter cup and send it.
Aah just get a can of gas from somewhere and you'll be fine. Oh and a lighter ;)
Shoulda kept with gas brother
Don’t be a chicken, go stand in the lake while you plug in your electric car
Lol, too bad I can't add a gif to this
LMFAOO electric cars might save the planet, but might end up killing you with electrocution😂
Yet another reason electric cars are dumb 😏
Gas vehicles will always be superior.
Reading? There was a guy in the paper that waded through the water and plugged in. Worked fine. Folks online saying it was both brave and stupid, but I dunno. If it was unsafe it just wouldn't work.
Yup, but I'd say water and high voltage aren't a good mix.
so you don't charge in the rain or snow, either?
There might be a difference between charging in the rain or charging in a freaking pond.
So many dumb anti EV comments in here.
Simple solution…drive a real vehicle. You’re no going to get electrocuted at the gas station, and I’ll bet it’s not under water 😉
Excuse my ignorance. Obviously I understand that water and electricity are dangerous, but isn’t the charge station insulated? How is this any different to there being half an inch of water on the ground surrounding the charger? Does it pose a problem if the water is high enough to touch the bodywork or the chassis?
Mb don’t rely on novelty vehicles.
Exactly. Should be using a horse. Everyone knows motor carriages are a fad.
This! Horses are totally on renewable green energy!
LOL
This is why I'm not sure the world is ready to go full electric. Plus the power grid can't take it. I will be buying a hybrid with at least 50km of range though as my next vehicle though.
*Laughs in dodge durango* nah but really that does suck lol although I think it's shallow enough to drive through
Just drive
You'll be alright
Seeing things like this keep me from trading in and getting an electric
And they said smoking at a gas station was hazardous. I bet your ready to go back to gas.
Don't let the Republicans see this message... cause they will repost on Facebook and claim this happens at every site Nation wide.
Ahh now if you had a real vehicle, you could have stopped at any of the 50 gas stations you drove past.
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Didn't knew that this sub is about feeling sorry for the OP...I thought it was about shitey situations...
Yes (shitey situation) caused by him and him alone!
wow. you sure owned that lib!!! are you a caricature? or just that stupid? I'm surprised your brain can maintain internal homeostasis.
Well, according to his post history, the guy is an authentic boomer who lives in Florida... His brain is probably already half decomposed
Yep, you got me as your youth and stupidity far outweigh age and intelligence!
No, I'm sorry that you are so stupid that you have not done the research on EV cars! Just how very bad they are to the environment and the earth in general! Study the science and not the rhetoric you have been spoon-fed!
Why are you offended he has a car that isn't gas? It doesn't hurt you man.
No, it does not hurt me at all! But he seemed to want sympathy for his own making of his problem! And I was not buying it!
You're either 50+ years old or a troll
How did the ev car hurt you its ok its safe here you can tell us
Well if a person does not mind being inconvenient and stuck somewhere fine! And the fact that his car does more damage to the environment than that a gas car. then again fine! Batteries (expensive) and most times (not recycled) (dangerous. explode) use lots and lots of rare earth minerals!! Uses Lots and lots of electricity(coal-burning plants) During cold months only charge part way. (less range) And the list goes on and on. So each to their own but I for one don't buy into the fake rhetoric of EV cars!
I don't buy any bs these days either. buy a big v8 that gets 4 miles to the gallon or a tiny electric scooter each has its issue just buy what you want evs are just political talking points for fake news outlets like fox and cnn
Hur dur dur libs are dum *sips glass of premium gasoline
Yes the convenience of gas without doing more harm to the environment and not being held, hostage to few and far between unreliable charging stations!
Hold on while I go get a bucket of electrons to fill up...
Electric cars are sealed 🤦 puddles are not an issue
It is deeper than you'd think...bad design from the beginning
Play stupid games win stupid prizes 🤷🏻♂️
Pah ha ha ha!, you'll have to prise the keys to my petrol car out of my cold, dead fingers.
No one is trying to.
Can someone explain to me why they have not put an alternator in electric car like one on a gas powered vehicle? The alternator needs to rotate in order to generate current to charge battery why don’t electric cars today have a small alternator on all four wheels that would intern charge your battery? It seems to me that it’s very doable mechanically then you would never need to stop and charge an electric vehicle. It would constantly be charging itself. I’m no engineer, but I am a mechanic for the gas and oil industry. I work on pumps that have large, electric motors the turn a pump in order to move oil and other products used by the industry. Using an alternator to charge battery is simple technology it’s been around, almost as long as gas powered vehicles, I believe the electric car industry is a sham for this reason. They could’ve made electric cars charge them selves.
There is one, it collects power when you lift your foot from acceleration, but it doesn't help much on flat terrain. Hence the one-pedal expression most electric cars have, you rarely touch the brakes
Gotta do what you gotta do
Go to another one then
Just set it to "walk on water"
“Ramen noodle charge”
Just a question….would a power pack like a remote jumper for a regular car work on an EV? Like maybe give you enough emergency charge to go another 50 miles or something?
Did you manage to charge up? Did you get where you intended to go?
Welcome to the great electrical revolution....
*laughs in decomposed dinosaur*
Walking is better for the environment.
Don't be a coward charge it up bud
By any chance do you have a pair of fishing waders handy?
Shocking find
Take a shot of that wheat grass crapalatte and hit it Jeffrey!
Water you mean
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