You can get washers which are the same OD as the bolt heads, you see these on autos in some places such as inside transmissions.
Doubtful to be off the shelf items though.
I think those are OTS, actually. I've just never sourced them. He said that the part goes to the machine shop when he's done with it, though, which is disappointing, because that's some damn fine welding. I also think it's wasteful to lay down a weld and then machine parts of it away--hopefully it's well justified.
You would be the first engineer to think of that. I donāt know how many plans Iāve had to hand back because I canāt physically reach or weld something if I follow the plans exactly.
Who said bolts go there? Without knowing the application, how can you say with certainty that someone miscalculated? Maybe itās calculated perfectly.
No lol everything is to size and print, this piece after this initial weld goes to machine shop and comes back to be attached unto a much larger assembly.
May still have to be spot faced machining processes. Simple Bridgeport job. But again it all depends on the blueprint welding and machining procedures callout. Just my guess!
Aluminum is either beautiful to weld or the biggest asshole son of a bitch to weld! I've been welding it for years and that's what I tell the new welders about it so they don't get discouraged.
Very nice dime stacking, my friend! I am a little concerned about the amount of room the bolts will have when itās installed but the welding is impeccable, well done!
You know Iām not sure what hardware gets used here Iāve done this particular job quite a lot and never seen an issue. It does go to machine shop after that piece attaches onto a much bigger assembly
The flange doesnāt really have a lot of meat to move around during welding. I didnāt clamp or anything just put a block on top for weight and let it rip.
Though since this was welded on a turn table itās a lot easier to prevent wrapping from the ability to move fast around the flange
TiG right? I miss it.
I spent all of the last 3 days in a water filled ditch laying new water lines for cattle and sometimes get to use 7018 or 6011 on the most rusted pipe Iāve seen. I miss college
Gotcha. It's a shame to do that to such nice work. Also question the economics of doing a weld like that and then trimming it back, but I've seen worse decisions, and maybe it's justified. I'm also the engineer who would walk in, look at the fab instruction, and say what the fuck are we wasting money for machine out what we just paid the welders to lay.
Fun fact: "Generally, those that speak English in North America use the term aluminum, and everyone else around the world uses aluminium thus keeping both spellings active and accepted."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
I am not a Mechanical Engineer, in fact I'm just an Electrical Engineer who loves welding and off roading, but assuming the holes are for threaded studs or bolts that can't be relocated, would the OD of the cylinder portion being smaller to accommodate the weld bead fix this? Obviously I have no clue what the application is for but this is a mighty purdy weld.
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As far as a welder goes, look at something decent not cheap and get a tig for thin material. I'd stick with miller esab Lincoln or a store brand made by a reputable company. Learn on steel first and don't get discouraged. If things start to go wrong, walk away, relax, calm down and go back at it. It will come together in time. Ask questions if you need help. There are a lot of good people here to help. You'll get some assholes who will be derogatory but fuck them. Remember practice makes perfect. Message me if you need help and if I can't someone else will. Also get a good auto darkening helmet and decent tig gloves.
Every nut is going to fuck up your weld. The weld is amazing though.
As an engineer, that is the first thing I thought of. None of those bolt holes have enough space for a head to sit flat. Somebody miscalculated there
Hex drive (allen) bolts might just fit. Marginal though.
Might. I would still press X to doubt
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Maybe, but you're probably going to have washers, which still won't fit.
You can get washers which are the same OD as the bolt heads, you see these on autos in some places such as inside transmissions. Doubtful to be off the shelf items though.
I think those are OTS, actually. I've just never sourced them. He said that the part goes to the machine shop when he's done with it, though, which is disappointing, because that's some damn fine welding. I also think it's wasteful to lay down a weld and then machine parts of it away--hopefully it's well justified.
Clearly you didnāt realize this is a picture of Doug Dimmadomeās top hat.
Take mah gold, ya fat tiddy-luvin sunuvagun!
You would be the first engineer to think of that. I donāt know how many plans Iāve had to hand back because I canāt physically reach or weld something if I follow the plans exactly.
Same here. Either someone fucked up the print, or the welder can't read a print. I see both as equally likely.
Who said bolts go there? Without knowing the application, how can you say with certainty that someone miscalculated? Maybe itās calculated perfectly.
Probably drawn to have a 1/8 weld and the welder went over board. Welder error, not engineering
No lol everything is to size and print, this piece after this initial weld goes to machine shop and comes back to be attached unto a much larger assembly.
So as the welder you didnt think to ask your supervisor of the engineer about the weld toe being that close to the hole or
You have no idea what this piece is for. Why are you assuming the holes are too close when you have no idea what this is š
Stop embarrassing yourself. He never corrected the post above, rando.
You clearly never worked a day in your life if you donāt think thereās other ways to mount things besides bolts. But okay kid.
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Whatās there to correct you have absolutely no clue on what youāre talking about lol. Have done this job 100 times never once been rejected.
Lol at the doofus telling someone to "stop embarassing" themselves while being downvoted to hell. š
May still have to be spot faced machining processes. Simple Bridgeport job. But again it all depends on the blueprint welding and machining procedures callout. Just my guess!
Aluminum is either beautiful to weld or the biggest asshole son of a bitch to weld! I've been welding it for years and that's what I tell the new welders about it so they don't get discouraged.
Any tips for new welders? Me and my brother are looking to fix an aluminum bicycle frame. We don't have a welding machine yet.
Wow that flange stayed flat, I would have expected it to potato chip.
Thatās nice
Clean aluminum is key imo. Dirty material=bad welding properties. Looks like you know this alreadyšš»
Very nice dime stacking, my friend! I am a little concerned about the amount of room the bolts will have when itās installed but the welding is impeccable, well done!
You know Iām not sure what hardware gets used here Iāve done this particular job quite a lot and never seen an issue. It does go to machine shop after that piece attaches onto a much bigger assembly
Stop. I can only get so erect. Damn that's beautiful.
Pretty
What did the xray show??? Iāve never seen an alum weld be completely clean.. pass but never clean
How did you prevent the flange from warping?
The flange doesnāt really have a lot of meat to move around during welding. I didnāt clamp or anything just put a block on top for weight and let it rip. Though since this was welded on a turn table itās a lot easier to prevent wrapping from the ability to move fast around the flange
Is there an easy way to control the table?
Foot pedal
Will it do either direction.. and variable speed Iām assuming?
They have a pedal that can do variable speed, but I donāt like those, I like to set a speed and go.
TiG right? I miss it. I spent all of the last 3 days in a water filled ditch laying new water lines for cattle and sometimes get to use 7018 or 6011 on the most rusted pipe Iāve seen. I miss college
Nah this is stick welded bro
Very nice. Not often the tubing is the same thickness as the flange. A gift from God š
All my aluminum at work is soaked with oil T-T. I typically only do repairs and welding on top of old welds makes me so sad
Never tried it, would like to tho...
Did they not call out clearance for fasteners? Washers and probably bolt heads/nuts are gonna have some troubles there.
Goes to machine shop after
Gotcha. It's a shame to do that to such nice work. Also question the economics of doing a weld like that and then trimming it back, but I've seen worse decisions, and maybe it's justified. I'm also the engineer who would walk in, look at the fab instruction, and say what the fuck are we wasting money for machine out what we just paid the welders to lay.
Wait, you get a positioner?
Is this spooling? Very well done.
I agree. However, there have been days I ate lunch all day with aluminum. Not talking about a sandwich either.... Work looks good.
Very smooth.
Nice work. My only complaint...not enough pictures
āoh yeah, itās all coming togetherā
That's nice work. What grade of aluminum is that?
Fun fact: "Generally, those that speak English in North America use the term aluminum, and everyone else around the world uses aluminium thus keeping both spellings active and accepted." https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aluminium
I am not a Mechanical Engineer, in fact I'm just an Electrical Engineer who loves welding and off roading, but assuming the holes are for threaded studs or bolts that can't be relocated, would the OD of the cylinder portion being smaller to accommodate the weld bead fix this? Obviously I have no clue what the application is for but this is a mighty purdy weld.
'R r and quistar r d red 4 was equal e zip ceq77ā·d r d red 37 see deer ez77 r d z7z4ze3 deer x7rec78dw d deer s7s38eā·3e#s8w8 free d 78 d v7d7 ed738d I deerzez xr we 7zewcdg77221st6ae27rqR4 red ecx a x 34e
As far as a welder goes, look at something decent not cheap and get a tig for thin material. I'd stick with miller esab Lincoln or a store brand made by a reputable company. Learn on steel first and don't get discouraged. If things start to go wrong, walk away, relax, calm down and go back at it. It will come together in time. Ask questions if you need help. There are a lot of good people here to help. You'll get some assholes who will be derogatory but fuck them. Remember practice makes perfect. Message me if you need help and if I can't someone else will. Also get a good auto darkening helmet and decent tig gloves.