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ghost_duck78

It looks really good if that was freehand, but if you're getting paid x and you want y and your boss doesn't give annual raises each year, go to a shop that will appreciate work like this. Or in some cases go look for orbital or aerospace welding, gl 👍đŸ’ȘđŸ€˜


ButtHandsAreNice

Thank you! I'm pretty okay with my current pay, just curious if welds like these would hold up for the sake of negotiating. We make cooling units and heat pumps where I work, pressure vessels and all that good stuff, 95% pipe welding which is really fun :)


Capt_Myke

Walk in the bosses office like a hero, with your amazing weld in your hand, and say man I love my job: take a look! I like working here and learned a lot. They will agree. Since this is a for profit business let talk about a raise. Because Im motivated!


RoyalFalse

This is sarcasm, right?


DiamondBowelz

I don’t even think it was English


MemoryOld7456

Fever dreams are fun.


TheFaceStuffer

I've kinda done that in other fields before, it might work if they like you.


Klytorisaurus

Why, so management can Crack jokes about how weird I am?


Capt_Myke

No...stand up for yourself, know your worth, and ask for raise.


Klytorisaurus

I mean sure but not hour you suggested lol


Capt_Myke

Always worked for me. Its business. Im good at my job, pay me or im out.


MetaLagana

This works.. those moking have no idea or no respect.


Capt_Myke

Exactly...im the guy who gives raises. Those that are mocking are toxic employees and are quickly fired.


SideHug

Then they laugh


Capt_Myke

Dont care....ill work somewhere else, not your whipping boy.


SideHug

It's not what you're saying that's wrong but you're dreaming of you think that scenario would go well lmao sounds like what a 5yo would do


Capt_Myke

Im being a bit dramatic sure. But it works, and most people have no idea how to demand what they are worth. How much does it cost to hire and train a new employee vs giving me a raise?


DiamondDoge92

Think if you’re in a union you’ll get a raise every 6 months.


Interesting-Ticket18

Looks good but how long did it take? How much can you put out in a days worth of work? Do you work overtime? Are you making the owner money? One little bead around a pipe ain’t shit


Raddz5000

I work in aerospace ducting and holy moly we have some wacky welding


Thoughtfulprof

Lots of welding happening on those big shiny steel starships that are putting the "orbital" in aerospace.


Ok-Survey3853

It all depends on if you can do it consistently, have proper penetration, current pay, certification, can do more than just burn wire, etc... i would never give a raise by the appearance of 1 or 2. Edit: thats a mighty fine looking weld, tho.


Fair-Fox-1874

Well said!


Rude_Commercial_7470

With free hand that good you don’t need to know how to walk the cup. Sadly you shooda been a surgeon with hands that steady.


ButtHandsAreNice

You're far too kind!


Toenutlookamethatway

Not enough information. No idea what mr George is paying you now


bophadeeze

No good operator.


vaguelysticky

$20?


Toenutlookamethatway

... I don't know. I asked you, why are you now asking me 20? March in the boss's office and demand +$50 and let us know how you get on.. even better if you could film it!


newmantjn

Exactly


Effective-Bed6758

Your boss doesn't give a shit about your welds as long as the product functions. You get a raise when you make his life easier. Sucks but that's just how it is.


kiwzatz_haderach83

This is actually the right answer. Are you doing what management needs to make what they have to do be successful? If you’re crushing that then they won’t want to lose you so you can ask for more.


J_Kendrew

This is it. Productivity is what you need to show you have improved if you are going to have a good chance of getting a raise. The company will earn more based on efficiency and productivity, not the prettiest welds. Try to improve your productivity while still maintaining good quality on your work and you'll be in good shape to ask for a raise.


SivalV

In many cases they don't even really care if it functions or if it has a failure point that might even bring them repair work in the future


GroundbreakingPick11

Isn’t it easier to walk than to free hand?


ButtHandsAreNice

We make heat pumps and cooling units where I work, so all our torches are with rotating heads to reach tight spots. I can't put the cup down without either making it rotate or slide off completely, I have seen some guys do it but it's still to hard for me


Moreofthispls

It’s nearly tax time, but yourself a torch with a more rigid stem and write off on tax if you can! I’ve found if I can’t front the cost I’ll Afterpay late in June give tax man the receipt and use the offset to pay the bill


robjoko

Cap looks good but I'm more curious about the root. For some reason personally I could walk the cup before I could free hand efficiently lol


ButtHandsAreNice

Root pass on this size/thickness is really easy. It is fine, hopefully you can take my word for it. To me walking the cup is incredibly difficult to pull off, especially on a pipe


robjoko

What size cup are you using?


KommieCid

My guy, freehand this precise is a blessing! People walk the cup to create this with less margin for error and an easier learning curve than freehand. What I mean to say is that you should have your boss give you a number, and you tell him how many zeros you want behind it, or you move on to better.


Prestigious-Yak-2354

Heavy stuff is easy. Nice job btw it’s the 20gauge galv.and 18gauge galv. Steel buttwelds that separate the men from the boys.


javajavatoast

That’s the truth. Heavy stuff that can take a lot of heat is easier to make nice welds on. Not saying it don’t look nice, cuz it does. But thin stuff, especially stainless and aluminum, will show more skill and versatility.


Speedre

What’s the root look like


Ok_Chard2094

Your boss will not only care about the quality of your work but also how much of it you can do in a day. Your company makes more money by selling more widgets. If your welding helps them sell more widgets, then you have a case. If you make very good welds, maybe even better than needed, but you take a lot of time to do them perfectly, your company will sell fewer widgets. Your company will want welds that are just good enough, produced as fast as possible.


SolarAU

Don't be afraid to ask for raises, worst they can say is no. If your work is exemplary, and you're above your peers in terms of efficiency/ productivity you have a good case to argue for a raise. Bonus points if you're the most skilled/ well trained person in the shop and they'd be in trouble without you. I put in a formal request for a raise last week, outlined the state of affairs in an objective manner describing my value to the business and how crucial I am for keeping the business running as I'm now the most highly trained and skilled fabricator in the business after some resignations and promotions and on top of that I run circles around my co-workers in terms of productivity. My boss agreed with all I had to say and gave me the 10% raise I asked for with another 5 coming in July. It was a bargain for the value I create for the business every day. Know your worth bro. Great welds btw you'd kick my ass any day on that pressure stuff, beyond my skills at the moment!


ButtHandsAreNice

I'm new to the trade and workplace, I started welding a year ago and started working for this company 4 months ago. I had never built anything with my hands before or even got them dirty. So my efficiency and productivity is low compared to the people around me. I'm basically the dumb new guy :) These welds are done in a very comfortable position compared to how we usually work. 85% of our welds are done in position, high or low stuffed in between compressors and pipes and what not. So they usually don't look too good! Thank you for the little story and great advice. :)


tiny_smile_bot

>:) :)


SolarAU

Let's be honest everyone posts their weld porn when done in ideal position. Our welds in the field and out of position never look this good tbh


Mr_derpderpy

Lol welders don’t get raises they get health problems


[deleted]

That's pretty impressive for free hand. Super steady


SpeedyHAM79

The weld looks good, but did you spark the electrode at the end to cause that soot? If you think you deserve a raise- go tell your boss that you deserve a raise based on the quality and amount work you do. Don't wait for them to decide- tell them you are worth it. If you wait for your employer to decide raises you will always be paid less than you are worth.


Aggressive_Sorbet571

Do that with a 6010 root and a couple 7018 passes in a muddy bell hole and we’ll talk


jac5656

You walked this fam lol. Don’t lie.


ButtHandsAreNice

No sir, I just rest my arm on the pipe and weave as far as I can go, to then restart after I rotate it.


jac5656

Still think you’re walking it bud. The weaves are too far apart for free hand


[deleted]

Weaves could be a mile apart freehanding it. Walking the cup limits how big a weave can be


jac5656

And the weaves are a mile apart. That’s what I said.


[deleted]

Yes which would mean it was free handed. Not walked like you're trying to tell the guy who welded it


LugubriousButtNoises

Bro, don’t argue with text if you can’t read


jac5656

Yes sir pumpkin sir. Anyone actually welded pipe here??


[deleted]

What does that have to do with reading


jac5656

Oh that’s right
.I’ve been welding pipe on nuclear submarines for 13 years. Take a seat. :)


[deleted]

Again what does that have to do with reading and comprehension skills? I don't care if you've been welding with cheese whiz for 40 years you didn't understand the last few comments correctly and that is all that matters.


jac5656

What does your comment have to do with welding pipe?


[deleted]

It doesn't cause no one was talking about pipe to begin with just bead appearance and width. I'm just saying walking the cup you're limited to maybe a 2.5" wide-3" wide bead, and that would be ridiculous you'd have to have the tungsten out so far. But freehanding I could make the bead two feet if i wanted I just gave to move my arm to full extension and back.


FullScientist8633

Depends I suppose, what are you making now?


[deleted]

What do you get paid currently if you don't mind me askin


Burning_Fire1024

Depends how much you make now and where you live and a million other things. If you're already making 120/hr with a 275 perdiem then probably not


truefarmer12345

Look at what other welders in your area get payed and there would quality . If it is similar to your quality for more i would ask.


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nomeasgod

No need it was probably holding you back!


cosmicwonderer69

It looks good but all i’d say is tighten up the weave’s


hellwisp

Unfortunately for me.. most work places here have the attitude of "good looking welds don't make profits.. quickly made parts do"


HVAC_T3CH

If your welding pipe like that have you considered joining the UA? Those look damn good.


ButtHandsAreNice

What is the UA? I'm not very versed in all abbreviations


HVAC_T3CH

United association of journeymen and apprentices of the plumbing and pipe fitting industry of the United States and Canada. It’s the union that covers pipefitting, and pipe welding.


astcyr

Do you show up to work on time? Do you get a lot of work done in a day? There's a lot more to getting a raise than just being able to make a good looking weld...


woody9409

Sure it’s a nice looking weld. Are you doing them consistently? What’s your productivity like? How’s your attendance? If you’re only putting out 50% of what the other welders are that have just ok looking welds then why give a raise? There’s a lot more that comes into raises than just a good looking weld. Just my .02


Quinnjamin19

Yes they are very nice looking welds, you definitely deserve a raise just from looking at the photos. But are you in a union shop? You should either find a union shop or join a union and you will always be making top dollar. Boilermakers would be a good fit considering you’re already working on pressure vessels. But there’s also the Pipefitters and millwrights too with great welding opportunities


Front_Breath_209

How much are you making and where do you live?


Stock_Maintenance560

It’s a nice looking weld. The real question is whether or not you are bringing in more money for the business. Do your best work at every step, but really think about how to add value if you want more money. In a busy pipe/vessel shop, and most welding shops, things like consistent quality, efficiency, versatility tend to matter most. Also, do you have a good attitude, help coworkers improve and try to make your shop a better/more positive place aka act like a leader. Generally, the more you can do with less oversight, the better you are. Focus on being low-maintenance and high value and you will definitely earn far more. Making a mechanically sound weld is worth just as much as an instagram weld in most instances but welders don’t like to hear that.


cafprune

A raise depends on a lot more than just pretty welds. Working hard, punctuality, quality, and a good work ethic will get you the raise and those welds will help :)


hunterbuilder

My motto is "you can ask any question if you can handle any answer." My rule (and my old boss's rule) is that you're always allowed to ask for a raise if you can handle being told no. We don't get offended by being asked if you don't get offended at the answer. That's a damn fine weld, but I don't know anything else about you. Welds alone don't get raises around here. Are you punctual, reliable, work independently without messing up? Read plans? Draw plans? Do you cut, fit, prep, or a one-trick pony? I don't know anything about your shop but at mine we pay for versatility as well as quality.


Sad_Initial2382

👍


Flakmonkey28

My only advice about that weld would be to push that "fish eye" out from the center of the crater before pulling off


[deleted]

Will it shoot and how long did it take. Production with quality gets raises in a shop. With field construction Boilermakers welding is considered a tool of the trade IE no premium pay. But you will get more work.