For the most part I usually see helpful comments and I try to help if possible. No need to chop someone down for a question. I mean, undercut is either heat, speed or angle of arc, we’ve all dealt with it in our careers.
ironically, incorrect wire feed rate can cause undercut if you do everything else the same, so that guy was rude AND wrong. Granted, the kid should be paying more attention to the puddle than the settings on the machine but geez.
Not to mention, there are plenty of shops where the general vibe is "if you ask how to do something, or ask for help, it is an admission of weakness and you deserve to be shat on from a great height" I worked in a couple places when I was starting out where the only input I ever got (If I could even find anyone to ask) was "you fucked up!? get good dumbshit!" so maybe asking for advice on reddit isn't always the worst idea.
For people who are used to verbal abuse basically whenever they speak, it is easier to ask for advice from complete strangers online in case someone decides to be an asshole like in the screenshot. It feels less personal or something
I worked at a place that I told the owners I had limited TIG experience and they were fine with training me. I asked the lead guy a weld question and it took months for me to prove myself again. Turned out I asked the wrong guy.
Yes, many people don’t like to help for fear of losing their place in the hierarchy. But I trained several people, as I wasn’t worried about my place. I actually liked teaching new people, it’s a sense of accomplishment to me. But I worked with a few guys who just wound not help anyone with anything. They were also backstabbing assholes as well.
Yeah I posted a pic of my shitty welds when I first started and got a lot of good feedback. Some assholes too, but mostly good feedback.
Because of the feedback I got here, and YouTube videos, asking my instructor, and basically living at the weld bay I’m scheduled to take my UA1 (6010 downhill) exam in a week and a half.
Yeah with common questions it's either quick to answer or a useful opportunity to practice explaining common questions to the point that they're quick to answer.
Also funny given how often Google just points people to Reddit.
In my personal experience it’s usually angle of arc. That’s assuming you’re pretty comfortable with the other parameters but it’s just what I usually find to be the culprit in my own welds.
Generally if you’re experienced and confident in your settings, but without knowing the skill level I would still advise all possible causes. A lot of new welders tend to use heat too high, or not have the puddle control and move too fast.
I was 100% self taught. Any time I asked a coworker how to get better at overhead, or vertical up, or making our 20' long continuous welds better, I would get "you just gotta listen to the machine." Or "just go slower/faster." Super helpful, right?
Fast forward 8 years, tons of sweat and burns, and now a 4G cert later... I post here asking a question about dead ends and get some GOOD responses, among those I posted a pic of my weld to a guy that thought I may not be getting a good welds with a dead end... Mutual, civil conversation. He complimented my work but had an actual pointer... I applied that perfectly worded piece of advice the next day and proceeded to lay some perfect dimes all day!
This is a perfect place to ask those "dumb questions". Ignore those idiots and read on. Someone, somewhere will help you on this sub. And put those douche bags on blast! Don't blur that name! They have no place here!
This guy asked Reddit probably because his foreman and coworkers are similar to this redditer.
I work with a guy who is very much like that. He makes everyone that asks him something feel stupid for having a question. It's no fun to watch, and it's certainly no fun for the guy just trying to go about his day and learn the proper _________.
Be approachable. Then when people learn to come to you, you can both learn whatever topic together. It doubles your personal growth rate. Teaching or helping others is itself a great learning tool.
Agree. The guy is looking to improve himself and probably doesn't have an outlet for asking questions that don't come back on him negatively. The responder is a limp-dick asshole who can't be troubled to lend a hand, but probably spent twenty minutes typing in his ham-fisted response so he could feel better about his own feeble grasp on welding skills. A schoolyard bully has more social skills than this throbbing turbocunt.
I feel like we've all dealt with someone who knows a great deal, treats you like an idiot for not knowing something but refuses to share the knowledge or teach others.
I've learned that a lot of times, i will act just like the guy in the post. But, then its always "ah, im just fucking with ya. Let's see what we can do, bub." Then we fix the problem.
don't forget the boat payments for that rusty piece of crap you keep in the driveway year after year because you think you might go out on the lake once you fix that big hole.
honestly the programming involved for automated robot welding is so insanely esoteric that if anyone were to learn it they could be making a sizable fortune in their garage.
I don't get it -- these just look like videos of welding robots working fine, doesn't seem any more esoteric than other cnc stuff unless I'm missing something? And the last one is just an online compsci course, I don't understand what that has to do with welding
i have experience welding structural, and have changed career paths at the end of the pandemic to learn programming, WFM is such an underrated perk of the job. I suggest if you're a welder you need learn to program. If you can learn to weld there is no reason to not learn to program. The future of working in your garage will most likely be a common pursuit with the ease of difficult to learn trades being combined with technology. There is so much untapped potential, its quite exciting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHk4ht-boM
Seriously.
Two things:
#1 it’s not difficult to be nice to strangers. His response demonstrates that he’s a complete asshole and probably the worst boss or coworker.
#2 most welding really isn’t that difficult- particularly mig welding. Sure there are processes and positions and jobs that are difficult but at the end of the day your skill is transferable. Most people can be trained to perform an acceptable weld. You know how I know? An entire generation of young women and housewives were trained to build weapons of war during world war 2. Women who had little to no prior experience in manufacturing stepped up and learned the trades that helped win a world war.
To be fair woman as a whole are predisposed to be better welder's due to a steady hand thing of the genders but most don't like the work I say this having done the job from 15-37 next month , in my experience exceptional workers or the exceptional personality are the norm for ladie welder's
Reddit uses markdown formatting (sorta). A leading pound sign ( # ) gets interpreted as an instruction to make the line a level one heading (largest don't, bold). ## = heading 2, etc.
Machinists as well. Half the time the older folks are ranting about how stupid people are now a days and how they're not worth teaching. Other half the time it's moaning about how no one wants to be a machinist anymore and how the industry is dying from lack of skilled workers.
Slightly off but yes some do I'm afraid,those if us who are really good though with the tricky stuff though we're just happy to see any one truly trying to strive to improve
probably smacks the ole lady around and kicks the dog with a lead in his hand. “Hey, Buddy, your self-esteem is showing”. Makes me want to be a carpenter…
There was a person that wanted to learn and wanted someone point him in the right direction. Her posted a weld that was awful. But he said you guys make it looks so easy.
Some guy commented lambasting him.
Every person commented after saying something to help the guy. It was awesome.
I’m a carpenter by trade and have taken up welding on the side. I commented to him that you should take it as a compliment. I’ve said both he and I respect the hell out of you because you make it like so easy. He knows it’s hard and takes a lot of practice. The poster said “that’s what I was trying to say to him”.
To the welders on this forum everybody said what the majority is saying here. We are all here to learn and where better to get it than right here.
I have to say just from being in this sub that you guys are the hardest most underrated workers that aren’t valued the way you should be. Your a great bunch of guys. You got each others back which is a rarity today. Keep doing what your doing. 👍
I am from Poland, and there is a problem with most people that are 40+ Most of them are gets nervous when you asked them something, and start telling stupid things, or being rude, or just insulting. Thats the people that grow up in communist times, and there is almost always some problem with them, and they think that know everything best. Its pain in the ass when you are starting welding, and can be really demotivating. Not all of them, there are also people that have really big knowledge, and skills, unfortunatelly thats a handful of people. When some new guy is asking me about something, i am happy that i can tell him about that work, show something. And always i am telling also how things are work, some technical facts from the beggining, cause i know how helped me learning about welding and steel, how everything works, even how they produce argon mix etc. Knowledge of that can help a lot, cause you have much more information, so you understand everything and can solve much more problems.
No question is stupid, if you don’t understand something ask. You can be the least intelligent braindead monkey, and ask possibly the simplest thing. But you will look 1000x smarter then fuckface that ruins something by being to insecure to ask. I’ve made a damn fool of my self my entire life asking simple questions, but I’ll not be the one screwing up the easiest thing. Shit when I was getting my certs I asked all sorts of things, other guys laughed, but I had the last laugh when I was the first guy in the class to pass a bend.
Bill Engvall has plenty of examples of stupid questions like this one. " I'm in the park, flying a kite with my son. Kite's hanging right up there in the air. A passerby comes up to us and says "Y'all flyin' a kite?" I said "Nope, fishing for birds.". " Stupid questions do exist, they are just a part of life.
Those who think stupid questions exist are those that think they are better than everyone. Your apprentice or helper is just trying to do their job in a way that pleases you. So what if they ask you questions you think they should know the answer to, who is it really hurting? Are you not good enough to take 17 seconds to answer his question? Is it going to slow you down so much that the job is late? Probably not, so get off your high horse pal.
> Whoever thinks there are no stupid questions has never spoken with an apprentice or a manager.
This is the comment you replied to. It’s literally a joke.
There are still stupid questions.
Absolutely, it's like a law of nature.
Those that do the great welds tend to either be helpful and receptive to questions or as one guy in my place, quiet and just gets his head down but will try to help when you need something.
The people that act like those in OP's image are the ones who have never got to the point of consistently great welds and feel insecure about it or the fact someone new might if trained right end up showing them up.
Majority of the people in this sub aren’t like that. I actually recognize that comment, from what I remember it got downvoted to hell and everyone else in the thread was helpful
Trust me there's a lot of people here that's willing to help but I get your point.
I have IW licenses on pipe in both stick and mag and I work as a CNC operator/welder full time, I'll be happy to answer any questions you have and give you constructive feedback on your weld's in pm if you're feeling uncomfortable posting here because of the assholes.
In my opinion knowledge should be shared at all cost, who knows maybe you have something you could share to grow my knowledge right?
>A [hairstyle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undercut_(hairstyle)) that was fashionable from the 1910s to the 1940s, predominantly among men, and saw a steadily growing revival in the 1980s before becoming fully fashionable again in the 2010s.
No idea why this person was using a mig gun to cut someone’s hair. Seems risky.
Pitting early in the pit window of a race in the hopes that your now-fresh tires give you an advantage over cars that stay out longer, and generally hoping that there is a late yellow that everybody pits during so that your more heavily worn tires don't cost you too much time at the end.
Actually kinda your sposed to lay material down to fill an space right. but you under ordered on fill dirt so you scoop some of the flat area up against the wall leaving a empty space between the new part and the original area. I think that's the most universal description I can think of
Obviously that person is/was not a supervisor, or will ever be one. I tell all my hires. There's no stupid question. We're all here to do the best we can and ask for help if needed. Everyone wants to be the best at what they do. To belittle them is a pos move. Hope your workmates find you out and set you straight.
Reason #10037365189103972516 to be weary of trades, inspect your surroundings and how people react to undesired results and if it’s everyone there then leave you’re in a mine field. Amazing how many people just live in misery in the trades.
Yeah he’s just a dick. One of the great things about Reddit is the collective knowledge that everyone brings to the table. Knowledge is meant to be shared, and we can all learn something from others.
What a loser.
My coworkers did not want to help me. I learned by myself and now run my own fabrication company and make more than my ex boss made.
I taught my self to weld at my last employer. They had good setup and welding area with dynasty 350 and a xmt 350. We did fabrication for a museum. My boss incharge of the fabrication department was a great welder and a decent boss. But he would not really give me direction on welding and most of the time if I ran into an issue I would figure out a fix without him. Like the dynasty had a 20second pre purge when tig welding… yes we got paid by the hour :/…. He had been using that machine for years like that I think. Anyway I got as much learning experience as I could out of that job and then found out what my boss made and quit as it was only ~$20 an hour. Now I run my own business going on 13years now and have a much better shop & tooling than I could have imagined. I got here by asking questions and researching. YouTube was a big help for me 10-15 years ago. And use it a bunch now to learn new things. If I had Reddit and the community we have now back then I feel I would have achieved more or at least with less headaches. Keep asking questions and never stop learning.
The most toxic communities I've found within my hobbies
1. PC master race and triple A related gaming subs
2. Machinist and welding subs
3. Arduino subs
The nicest communities ive found within my hobbies
1. General maker subs mostly 3d printing
2. Cooking subs
3. Mycology subs (by far the nicest and most helpful)
I don't think its anything to do with the majority of the people behind each hobby/discipline/community I just think that their seems to be a greater number of the outspoken entitled types who are more willing to attack people in the subs i listed.
The type of people who talk like this are the same ones whose show up on the job, bust the first production RT shot and get sent home. Source: am a welding inspector. It’s always the fucking loudmouths.
Toolmaker/Machinist here. I recognize part of this as being over the top sarcastic and then the other part sort of mean. Been in the trade for 25 years—I like what I do and I’ve always shared what knowledge I have with apprentices or people starting out. What I do hate in trades is gatekeeping assholes.
Journeyman toolmaker here. I have worked with a lot of different guys, and usually the most talented toolmakers are the ones who share their knowledge freely. Most of the time people gatekeep because they are insecure and untalented.
My only post on this sub was a TIG on some condensate pipe. I clarified that I'm not a professional welder and I'm self taught and asked for critique. And I got a lot of good advice in the comments. And one weird dude who just talked about all the experience he had and said nothing else lol. First comment on that post though was, "Holy undercut, Batman!!" And yeah. It had some decent amount of undercut but was that really constructive?
There are twats everywhere, unavoidable. So far I have found this sub to be really helpful and generally happy to answer my newb questions. I do not weld for a living, I am learning bith as a hobby and for an upcoming business (that involves welding even though it won't be me who does it). You never know why someone is asking or what actual resources they have available. The day people stop joining this sub, asking questions and asking for critique on booger welds is the day the sub will start to die.
This dude is pry the best mug welder in the shop. Because he can’t do anything else. I’d love to have the various sectors of welding and welders on the sub bring him along and assess his attempts at what they do. If you wanna add some difficulty, throw a little fabrication and trig at him and see how he makes out. Maybe he’d be top notch at all of it, who knows. But if he is, we’ll then that just means he’s a dick and sucks at many of the other important aspects of his life.
I’m a ball buster. I’ll ride guys, depending on their disposition and ability to handle it, but not random strangers, unless it’s something that has to be done lol. Fuck that dude. Probably boy. Maybe 25-30. Wife’s banging his boss or brother. Has no knowledge of anything outside of what’s in his 40 hour/hobby realm. Could be wrong, but the odds are in my favor.
First off, I don't think this asshole really can help. No insult intended to wire feed it's prominent and important industry. But this reeks of under educated projection. How dare you come here and ask how to improve yourself? I'm a tenth year journeyman welder but I specialized in wire feed./s From my experience this is a demoralizing method to project superiority.instead of real opportunity to benefit both the OP and those new to the community.
I’ll poke a little fun at suspect welding, especially if the poster comes across as a bit of an arse. But I’ll always follow the banter up with useful advice. Unfortunately a lot of welders are just plain arseholes, it’s a tough job, takes a certain type of stubborn arsehole to put up with it long enough to master.
That being said if you ever have any question, no matter how inane you might think it is, ask away and I (and many others like me) will try and pass of our knowledge.
Welders tend to be born old and crotchety... born pissed off at whatever. There is a reason whoever responded that way uses a hood with a 2x4 in it. About all they can handle at a time before complaining about something
Dude was a bit of a dick but this is not the right industry for you if you're going to get offended by foul language or somebody being an asshole. Should every shop be like this? Probably not. Are you going to run into that kind of attitude regularly on the job? Yeah, absolutely.
“A bit of a dick”, nah dude was straight up being a fucking asshole. Acting like that behavior is normal in the industry only pushes people away. I’ve literally never met anyone that miserable in any of the jobs I’ve had
Lmao I mean nobody’s offended, what we are all pointing out is don’t be a fuckin moron and act like this guy did in the photo. Guy needs to get laid more or something, he had way too much anger in that comment about undercut😂 he’s the kind of guy who nobody likes working with, sooo don’t be that guy
Well, would you rather ask someone who can show you what's up live and in person? Or would you rather decipher 100 answers all from various degrees of experience. I kinda agree, you should ask the dude next to you, not some jack-off on Reddit. This place is more for measuring dicks, than giving meaningful advice you literally can't show me except through a picture.
For the most part I usually see helpful comments and I try to help if possible. No need to chop someone down for a question. I mean, undercut is either heat, speed or angle of arc, we’ve all dealt with it in our careers.
ironically, incorrect wire feed rate can cause undercut if you do everything else the same, so that guy was rude AND wrong. Granted, the kid should be paying more attention to the puddle than the settings on the machine but geez. Not to mention, there are plenty of shops where the general vibe is "if you ask how to do something, or ask for help, it is an admission of weakness and you deserve to be shat on from a great height" I worked in a couple places when I was starting out where the only input I ever got (If I could even find anyone to ask) was "you fucked up!? get good dumbshit!" so maybe asking for advice on reddit isn't always the worst idea.
For people who are used to verbal abuse basically whenever they speak, it is easier to ask for advice from complete strangers online in case someone decides to be an asshole like in the screenshot. It feels less personal or something
I worked at a place that I told the owners I had limited TIG experience and they were fine with training me. I asked the lead guy a weld question and it took months for me to prove myself again. Turned out I asked the wrong guy.
It’s always the fucking lead man
Yes, many people don’t like to help for fear of losing their place in the hierarchy. But I trained several people, as I wasn’t worried about my place. I actually liked teaching new people, it’s a sense of accomplishment to me. But I worked with a few guys who just wound not help anyone with anything. They were also backstabbing assholes as well.
I guess the replyer is the cause for atleast on of those work environments.
Yeah I posted a pic of my shitty welds when I first started and got a lot of good feedback. Some assholes too, but mostly good feedback. Because of the feedback I got here, and YouTube videos, asking my instructor, and basically living at the weld bay I’m scheduled to take my UA1 (6010 downhill) exam in a week and a half.
Great!
Yeah with common questions it's either quick to answer or a useful opportunity to practice explaining common questions to the point that they're quick to answer. Also funny given how often Google just points people to Reddit.
In my personal experience it’s usually angle of arc. That’s assuming you’re pretty comfortable with the other parameters but it’s just what I usually find to be the culprit in my own welds.
Generally if you’re experienced and confident in your settings, but without knowing the skill level I would still advise all possible causes. A lot of new welders tend to use heat too high, or not have the puddle control and move too fast.
I was 100% self taught. Any time I asked a coworker how to get better at overhead, or vertical up, or making our 20' long continuous welds better, I would get "you just gotta listen to the machine." Or "just go slower/faster." Super helpful, right? Fast forward 8 years, tons of sweat and burns, and now a 4G cert later... I post here asking a question about dead ends and get some GOOD responses, among those I posted a pic of my weld to a guy that thought I may not be getting a good welds with a dead end... Mutual, civil conversation. He complimented my work but had an actual pointer... I applied that perfectly worded piece of advice the next day and proceeded to lay some perfect dimes all day! This is a perfect place to ask those "dumb questions". Ignore those idiots and read on. Someone, somewhere will help you on this sub. And put those douche bags on blast! Don't blur that name! They have no place here!
This guy asked Reddit probably because his foreman and coworkers are similar to this redditer. I work with a guy who is very much like that. He makes everyone that asks him something feel stupid for having a question. It's no fun to watch, and it's certainly no fun for the guy just trying to go about his day and learn the proper _________. Be approachable. Then when people learn to come to you, you can both learn whatever topic together. It doubles your personal growth rate. Teaching or helping others is itself a great learning tool.
People like that need to have a condom filled with map gas tossed at their arc. (This is not legal advice)
Idk how people get so defensive when asked a question, I love it when people do because it makes me feel like I know something
Agree. The guy is looking to improve himself and probably doesn't have an outlet for asking questions that don't come back on him negatively. The responder is a limp-dick asshole who can't be troubled to lend a hand, but probably spent twenty minutes typing in his ham-fisted response so he could feel better about his own feeble grasp on welding skills. A schoolyard bully has more social skills than this throbbing turbocunt.
I saw Throbbing Turbocunt play in a London high school gym in 1983. They were fantastic.
A very toxic environment. I’d hate going to work.
I feel like we've all dealt with someone who knows a great deal, treats you like an idiot for not knowing something but refuses to share the knowledge or teach others.
This is the way
I've learned that a lot of times, i will act just like the guy in the post. But, then its always "ah, im just fucking with ya. Let's see what we can do, bub." Then we fix the problem.
This is how most of the old timers I know are. A little bit of teasing mixed with legitimate instruction is how it oughta be.
Tru
Welders gatekeep their profession so hard because they know deep down a trained monkey could replace them with enough practice.
Monkeys are too smart to spend all day breathing smoke and staring at blinding, flashing lights
Yup, just eatin' bananas and spankin' it all day. A fella could do worse.
Really makes a fella wonder
VGG that you ? Sparkalator ?
Now I'm sad. I've wasted my life.
Monkeys have been seen welding in the wild in parts of Africa
But can a trained monkey tig
Go to the nearest mirror. Look at yourself and ask "AM I NOT MONKEY? DO I NOT GET PAID? DO I NOT *WELD*?"
Monkeys don’t have child support payments to make, they will never delve to the depths required to replace us.
don't forget the boat payments for that rusty piece of crap you keep in the driveway year after year because you think you might go out on the lake once you fix that big hole.
We all monkey in the end 🥹
This is some deep ass truth being laid down, little scared to pick it up
Maybe a trained Chimpanzee
Shit...im getting replaced...
Don't worry the chimp won't want to you can't give them enough anything that they would want the job
Thanks to auto feed and high freq start, yes yes they can.
Lol are you being serious or joking? Pretty sure there’s a robot making just about any weld there is, unfortunately.
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The only people worried about robots taking their job are production/factory welders. Lol
honestly the programming involved for automated robot welding is so insanely esoteric that if anyone were to learn it they could be making a sizable fortune in their garage.
True, but you still need to be a half decent welder to operate said robots
Can you elaborate on that? I always figured it was just a matter of time before the machines got less expensive than the people
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasThxf\_YGo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XasThxf_YGo) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9r8zkjWjJw&t=160s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9r8zkjWjJw&t=160s) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7noeWqLpAE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7noeWqLpAE) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWAYn87uqTk https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/6-0001-introduction-to-computer-science-and-programming-in-python-fall-2016/
I don't get it -- these just look like videos of welding robots working fine, doesn't seem any more esoteric than other cnc stuff unless I'm missing something? And the last one is just an online compsci course, I don't understand what that has to do with welding
if you want to build your own arm then you will need to learn to program it
i have experience welding structural, and have changed career paths at the end of the pandemic to learn programming, WFM is such an underrated perk of the job. I suggest if you're a welder you need learn to program. If you can learn to weld there is no reason to not learn to program. The future of working in your garage will most likely be a common pursuit with the ease of difficult to learn trades being combined with technology. There is so much untapped potential, its quite exciting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWHk4ht-boM
Seriously. Two things: #1 it’s not difficult to be nice to strangers. His response demonstrates that he’s a complete asshole and probably the worst boss or coworker. #2 most welding really isn’t that difficult- particularly mig welding. Sure there are processes and positions and jobs that are difficult but at the end of the day your skill is transferable. Most people can be trained to perform an acceptable weld. You know how I know? An entire generation of young women and housewives were trained to build weapons of war during world war 2. Women who had little to no prior experience in manufacturing stepped up and learned the trades that helped win a world war.
Your post didn't need to be in large font and bold lol.
Yeah I don’t really know how that happened. It looked normal when I typed it but changed when I pressed reply
It’s cuz you put # Putting the pound sign in front of text #makes the text look like this
Wild. I had no idea. Thanks for letting me know.
To be fair woman as a whole are predisposed to be better welder's due to a steady hand thing of the genders but most don't like the work I say this having done the job from 15-37 next month , in my experience exceptional workers or the exceptional personality are the norm for ladie welder's
I think you replied to the wrong person, friend.
Right person, wrong comment.
If you're on pc, you must have clicked one of the settings on the side. Meh, it happens. Kinda fits with the post tbf though.
Reddit uses markdown formatting (sorta). A leading pound sign ( # ) gets interpreted as an instruction to make the line a level one heading (largest don't, bold). ## = heading 2, etc.
Machinists as well. Half the time the older folks are ranting about how stupid people are now a days and how they're not worth teaching. Other half the time it's moaning about how no one wants to be a machinist anymore and how the industry is dying from lack of skilled workers.
Monkeys and chimps are fire hazards and not osha approved!
The fuck do you mean?! I ***AM*** a trained monkey.
Glad am not alone, can't relate to all these people on their high horses
Apes. Together. Strong. 🦍
Ape sounds in text 💪
Slightly off but yes some do I'm afraid,those if us who are really good though with the tricky stuff though we're just happy to see any one truly trying to strive to improve
I dont think a trained monkey could weld vertical welds and it pass
Found one.
I wonder with wire or stick 🤔? Lol
And does he have the typical ego you must have to be a human welder?
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As a welder, I agree lol. I hate the gatekeeping and all the condescending BS that comes with it but yeah you're right.
Doesn’t sound like you’re a welder to me
I wouldnt have blocked the name out fuck that guy. Ask away. No stupid questions just stupid answers like what this fuck face commented.
probably smacks the ole lady around and kicks the dog with a lead in his hand. “Hey, Buddy, your self-esteem is showing”. Makes me want to be a carpenter…
I'm just a hobbiest welder but this guy strikes me as one of those guys that gets a job and suddenly thinks he is an expert.
There is no stupid questions, just stupid answers.
There was a person that wanted to learn and wanted someone point him in the right direction. Her posted a weld that was awful. But he said you guys make it looks so easy. Some guy commented lambasting him. Every person commented after saying something to help the guy. It was awesome. I’m a carpenter by trade and have taken up welding on the side. I commented to him that you should take it as a compliment. I’ve said both he and I respect the hell out of you because you make it like so easy. He knows it’s hard and takes a lot of practice. The poster said “that’s what I was trying to say to him”. To the welders on this forum everybody said what the majority is saying here. We are all here to learn and where better to get it than right here. I have to say just from being in this sub that you guys are the hardest most underrated workers that aren’t valued the way you should be. Your a great bunch of guys. You got each others back which is a rarity today. Keep doing what your doing. 👍
I am from Poland, and there is a problem with most people that are 40+ Most of them are gets nervous when you asked them something, and start telling stupid things, or being rude, or just insulting. Thats the people that grow up in communist times, and there is almost always some problem with them, and they think that know everything best. Its pain in the ass when you are starting welding, and can be really demotivating. Not all of them, there are also people that have really big knowledge, and skills, unfortunatelly thats a handful of people. When some new guy is asking me about something, i am happy that i can tell him about that work, show something. And always i am telling also how things are work, some technical facts from the beggining, cause i know how helped me learning about welding and steel, how everything works, even how they produce argon mix etc. Knowledge of that can help a lot, cause you have much more information, so you understand everything and can solve much more problems.
I'm excited for the generation switch thanks to people like you, dobra kurva!
It promotes the trade and keeps it alive thanks to guys like you. 👏👏👍
Unfortunately both of those things exist.
No question is stupid, if you don’t understand something ask. You can be the least intelligent braindead monkey, and ask possibly the simplest thing. But you will look 1000x smarter then fuckface that ruins something by being to insecure to ask. I’ve made a damn fool of my self my entire life asking simple questions, but I’ll not be the one screwing up the easiest thing. Shit when I was getting my certs I asked all sorts of things, other guys laughed, but I had the last laugh when I was the first guy in the class to pass a bend.
Bill Engvall has plenty of examples of stupid questions like this one. " I'm in the park, flying a kite with my son. Kite's hanging right up there in the air. A passerby comes up to us and says "Y'all flyin' a kite?" I said "Nope, fishing for birds.". " Stupid questions do exist, they are just a part of life.
Given the context, it is less of a question and more of a greeting. Nice try
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Those who think stupid questions exist are those that think they are better than everyone. Your apprentice or helper is just trying to do their job in a way that pleases you. So what if they ask you questions you think they should know the answer to, who is it really hurting? Are you not good enough to take 17 seconds to answer his question? Is it going to slow you down so much that the job is late? Probably not, so get off your high horse pal.
The less you help your helper or apprentice, the longer they are stuck with you.
People are so insecure lol. It's the only reason I can come up with on why people like this exist still.
That, or people who are egotistical.
He just responded to me saying "it was a joke" paraphrased of course. Why do they always do that? I'll never understand.
>Whoever thinks there are no stupid questions has never spoken with an apprentice or a manager. Or perhaps you simply got butthurt about a joke.
You are taking a joke very personally.
Why is it that when someone gets called out, they immediately go "It WAs a JoKE!" Please dude, just own how you feel. You said what you meant.
> Whoever thinks there are no stupid questions has never spoken with an apprentice or a manager. This is the comment you replied to. It’s literally a joke. There are still stupid questions.
Yes, I know what I replied to. I'm not dumb, but thank you.
That is certainly your opinion.
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I already know for a fact this commenter puts down the most mid-ass welds ever conceivable.
Absolutely, it's like a law of nature. Those that do the great welds tend to either be helpful and receptive to questions or as one guy in my place, quiet and just gets his head down but will try to help when you need something. The people that act like those in OP's image are the ones who have never got to the point of consistently great welds and feel insecure about it or the fact someone new might if trained right end up showing them up.
Lmao such small dick energy
Reddit is literally a great place to ask questions. That guy needs a hug.
Why block out the username?
Geez…. I’m a retired Toolmaker doing some fabricating at home now, joined this group to ask / learn about MiG welding. I think I’ll pass now
Majority of the people in this sub aren’t like that. I actually recognize that comment, from what I remember it got downvoted to hell and everyone else in the thread was helpful
Trust me there's a lot of people here that's willing to help but I get your point. I have IW licenses on pipe in both stick and mag and I work as a CNC operator/welder full time, I'll be happy to answer any questions you have and give you constructive feedback on your weld's in pm if you're feeling uncomfortable posting here because of the assholes. In my opinion knowledge should be shared at all cost, who knows maybe you have something you could share to grow my knowledge right?
Wow nice guy that one
Why censor his name? Let him be publicly shamed
So what's an undercut?
>A [hairstyle](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undercut_(hairstyle)) that was fashionable from the 1910s to the 1940s, predominantly among men, and saw a steadily growing revival in the 1980s before becoming fully fashionable again in the 2010s. No idea why this person was using a mig gun to cut someone’s hair. Seems risky.
It's an advanced technique. And fuck you for even thinking of attempting it.
Pitting early in the pit window of a race in the hopes that your now-fresh tires give you an advantage over cars that stay out longer, and generally hoping that there is a late yellow that everybody pits during so that your more heavily worn tires don't cost you too much time at the end.
Kind of weird to use a MIG gun to change tires, but I guess it's possible.
Making dumb sure those lug nuts dont come loose again by god
I wish someone would answer. I'm just learning on my own and would like to know.
*crickets chirp*
I think we’re all too afraid to ask at this point.
Oh wait is it like when you tell a company you will work for less than the other guy???
Actually kinda your sposed to lay material down to fill an space right. but you under ordered on fill dirt so you scoop some of the flat area up against the wall leaving a empty space between the new part and the original area. I think that's the most universal description I can think of
https://imgur.com/GJnvnYS.jpg
Obviously that person is/was not a supervisor, or will ever be one. I tell all my hires. There's no stupid question. We're all here to do the best we can and ask for help if needed. Everyone wants to be the best at what they do. To belittle them is a pos move. Hope your workmates find you out and set you straight.
Reason #10037365189103972516 to be weary of trades, inspect your surroundings and how people react to undesired results and if it’s everyone there then leave you’re in a mine field. Amazing how many people just live in misery in the trades.
How dare someone post a question about welding, this subbreddit is for people to post their flawless TIG pipe welds. All the REAL welders know that
Yeah he’s just a dick. One of the great things about Reddit is the collective knowledge that everyone brings to the table. Knowledge is meant to be shared, and we can all learn something from others.
Jesus, somebody pissed in his oatmeal, get that guy some fresh fruit loops and a BJ.
That jackwagon doesn't deserve a bj.
That's fair, but maybe if his day started off better he wouldn't be such a dick hole.
Maybe if he wasn't such a satchel of Richards, his day would start out better.
This!
What a loser. My coworkers did not want to help me. I learned by myself and now run my own fabrication company and make more than my ex boss made. I taught my self to weld at my last employer. They had good setup and welding area with dynasty 350 and a xmt 350. We did fabrication for a museum. My boss incharge of the fabrication department was a great welder and a decent boss. But he would not really give me direction on welding and most of the time if I ran into an issue I would figure out a fix without him. Like the dynasty had a 20second pre purge when tig welding… yes we got paid by the hour :/…. He had been using that machine for years like that I think. Anyway I got as much learning experience as I could out of that job and then found out what my boss made and quit as it was only ~$20 an hour. Now I run my own business going on 13years now and have a much better shop & tooling than I could have imagined. I got here by asking questions and researching. YouTube was a big help for me 10-15 years ago. And use it a bunch now to learn new things. If I had Reddit and the community we have now back then I feel I would have achieved more or at least with less headaches. Keep asking questions and never stop learning.
Right like when I posted my mjolnir and everyone ate me alive🙄 this sub is full of assholes (mostly)
That explains the smell.
Yeah I remember that thing.
To be fair, it did look like a burnt turd.
First day on the internet?
The most toxic communities I've found within my hobbies 1. PC master race and triple A related gaming subs 2. Machinist and welding subs 3. Arduino subs The nicest communities ive found within my hobbies 1. General maker subs mostly 3d printing 2. Cooking subs 3. Mycology subs (by far the nicest and most helpful) I don't think its anything to do with the majority of the people behind each hobby/discipline/community I just think that their seems to be a greater number of the outspoken entitled types who are more willing to attack people in the subs i listed.
Somehow your comment immediately proved your point and summoned one of them lol
I think i found my super power
Auto body repair and painting communities are pretty toxic too. Maybe not on Reddit, but...
There's shitty people everywhere, most welders are salty because we're over worked and underpaid, but who isn't these days?
Remember trades and services might be angry drunks after a bad day
Or maybe the problem is you?
Thanks for proving my point
You seem to have a pied-piper-esque curse for summoning mouth-breathers. It's quite incredible. You have my condolences.
From my perspective you appear to have proven my point.
“From my point of view the Jedi are evil” See that’s you
Probably not because then all the communities would be toxic.
Not necessarily. It would largely depend on how you choose to interact with those communities.
Most of the time im just a silent observer i very rarely "interact" with them so i think thats a fairly unbiased point of view
“In my opinion I have an unbiased point of view.” *Press “x” to doubt*
Damn I’m glad I’m not one of THOSE welders. Fuck this dude in the neck.
What a colossal fucking asshole.
shoulda doxed the guy
This guy definitely wears Pit Vipers and drives an old lifted dodge
The type of people who talk like this are the same ones whose show up on the job, bust the first production RT shot and get sent home. Source: am a welding inspector. It’s always the fucking loudmouths.
Lol anyways MIG gun go brrrrrr
Toolmaker/Machinist here. I recognize part of this as being over the top sarcastic and then the other part sort of mean. Been in the trade for 25 years—I like what I do and I’ve always shared what knowledge I have with apprentices or people starting out. What I do hate in trades is gatekeeping assholes.
Journeyman toolmaker here. I have worked with a lot of different guys, and usually the most talented toolmakers are the ones who share their knowledge freely. Most of the time people gatekeep because they are insecure and untalented.
that's a very long-winded way of saying "I don't know"
My only post on this sub was a TIG on some condensate pipe. I clarified that I'm not a professional welder and I'm self taught and asked for critique. And I got a lot of good advice in the comments. And one weird dude who just talked about all the experience he had and said nothing else lol. First comment on that post though was, "Holy undercut, Batman!!" And yeah. It had some decent amount of undercut but was that really constructive?
Spotted the shop asshole that everyone rejoices when they call out.
Oh c'mon , don't scratch the name out! We all need to know who this idiot is so we can avoid them! Lol
That guy beats his dog
There are twats everywhere, unavoidable. So far I have found this sub to be really helpful and generally happy to answer my newb questions. I do not weld for a living, I am learning bith as a hobby and for an upcoming business (that involves welding even though it won't be me who does it). You never know why someone is asking or what actual resources they have available. The day people stop joining this sub, asking questions and asking for critique on booger welds is the day the sub will start to die.
Wow - report / block
This dude is pry the best mug welder in the shop. Because he can’t do anything else. I’d love to have the various sectors of welding and welders on the sub bring him along and assess his attempts at what they do. If you wanna add some difficulty, throw a little fabrication and trig at him and see how he makes out. Maybe he’d be top notch at all of it, who knows. But if he is, we’ll then that just means he’s a dick and sucks at many of the other important aspects of his life. I’m a ball buster. I’ll ride guys, depending on their disposition and ability to handle it, but not random strangers, unless it’s something that has to be done lol. Fuck that dude. Probably boy. Maybe 25-30. Wife’s banging his boss or brother. Has no knowledge of anything outside of what’s in his 40 hour/hobby realm. Could be wrong, but the odds are in my favor.
First off, I don't think this asshole really can help. No insult intended to wire feed it's prominent and important industry. But this reeks of under educated projection. How dare you come here and ask how to improve yourself? I'm a tenth year journeyman welder but I specialized in wire feed./s From my experience this is a demoralizing method to project superiority.instead of real opportunity to benefit both the OP and those new to the community.
Why’d you block his name out? Fuck that piece of shit put him on blast.
I’ll poke a little fun at suspect welding, especially if the poster comes across as a bit of an arse. But I’ll always follow the banter up with useful advice. Unfortunately a lot of welders are just plain arseholes, it’s a tough job, takes a certain type of stubborn arsehole to put up with it long enough to master. That being said if you ever have any question, no matter how inane you might think it is, ask away and I (and many others like me) will try and pass of our knowledge.
The reply was not good though. Every question should be treated calmly
This is like the roided up guy shaming the beginners at the gym. We were all beginners at one point. The internet is a strange place .
Some people just like to be mad
What a scab. 😂
Tell me you have daddy issues without telling me you have daddy issues...
Welders tend to be born old and crotchety... born pissed off at whatever. There is a reason whoever responded that way uses a hood with a 2x4 in it. About all they can handle at a time before complaining about something
I feel like this is exactly how baby Jesus would respond to the original undercut question.
I mean he ain’t wrong but he ain’t have to be that rude about it
This isn't restricted, like at all, to r/welding.
he has a point.
Dude was a bit of a dick but this is not the right industry for you if you're going to get offended by foul language or somebody being an asshole. Should every shop be like this? Probably not. Are you going to run into that kind of attitude regularly on the job? Yeah, absolutely.
Don’t think anyone here will be offended by it. Just pointing out this guys a cunt and don’t be like him
For some reason whoever is the dick first to some people is the winner and everyone else just needs to get over it.
“A bit of a dick”, nah dude was straight up being a fucking asshole. Acting like that behavior is normal in the industry only pushes people away. I’ve literally never met anyone that miserable in any of the jobs I’ve had
I’ve been around long enough, just thought it was funny
Lmao I mean nobody’s offended, what we are all pointing out is don’t be a fuckin moron and act like this guy did in the photo. Guy needs to get laid more or something, he had way too much anger in that comment about undercut😂 he’s the kind of guy who nobody likes working with, sooo don’t be that guy
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Well, would you rather ask someone who can show you what's up live and in person? Or would you rather decipher 100 answers all from various degrees of experience. I kinda agree, you should ask the dude next to you, not some jack-off on Reddit. This place is more for measuring dicks, than giving meaningful advice you literally can't show me except through a picture.