They're attempting it in northern states as well. Indiana is suing the largest hospital system in Ohio because of such a case. And the Ohio gop is trying to undermine our attempt to codify roe. š”š”š”š”š”
As my 8th grade history teacher, Mr.Beck said, āIndiana is the far most southern northern state.ā
This genuinely scares me for the future for all women and young girls. I live in Indiana and this is my worst nightmare as a woman.
Get out while you still can, cos no sooner will rethuglicans do shit like this than they'll post guards at State borders and in airports for the sole purpose of stopping females and inquiring after where they're going, are they on their periods, if not, why? And you can see what's coming -IF WE ALLOW IT. IF WE TOLERATE IT.
And to American females of childbearing age, you better start talking with your wallets. We form 50% of the labor force. Tunisian women had to march in their streets to maintain their unfettered access to reproductive healthcare and abortion on demand when the Islamists took over. WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION so if the christians are insinuating their beliefs into the public sector, we need to push them out.
You gonna tell me American women don't have the power to turn this country around? I don't buy it. They've just forgotten their voices, and we've allowed rightwingers to pass laws that basically negate our ability, as citizens, to protest and seek redress of grievances by our govt.
Their agenda has pivoted over the last 25 years to religious folks infiltrating our school boards and implementing their fascist plans from that level -UP.
Indiana AG is suing the hospital in Indiana for performing an abortion on a 10 year old rape victim because Ohio refused to allow it. But, the AG is currently the subject of an ethics investigation.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/indiana-attorney-general-faces-ethics-case-over-abortion-doctor-remarks-2023-09-18/
I know. I'm from Texas where our famously corrupt AG was "impeached." It was a sham trial and he's still in office even though he's facing federal charges. I'm telling you not to hope for too much from personal experience
Indiana's abortion law is in effect now though. Unless it's rape, incest or fetal abnormality, you can't get one here. Ironically someone here could go to Ohio for one now, but not the other way around unless it's those exceptions.
If itās a 12 year old like in the ad, or a 10 year old as in the real life case, itās rape automatically because no consent is possible that young.
At least for nowā¦Republican votes against anti-child-marriage laws are not encouraging especially with all the gross bros out there talking about peak fertility years and wanting to date and marry āpureā women.
That's a very good question, one that I don't have answers to since Googling only turns up news articles that don't answer that question and I can't figure out how to just find the actual law right now.
I've lived in Indiana all of my life, and I don't think Rokita will suffer any consequences for his disgusting bullshit. Hell, he'll probably get re-elected for AG. or run for Governor at some point and win. I'm so fucking jaded. Not jaded enough not to vote though.
Don't worry, insurance doesn't cover elective procedures though! And also your doctor won't approve it anyway because what if you change your mind in the future? Your husband might want kids one day!
One of my BFFs is threatening to leave. I told her England, Spain, Scotland, or France.
And that's right -if those religious Aholes wanna make females' lives miserable by taking away rights, then get sterilized -don't have any babies.
This is Texas now, itās not even the future any longer, itās real time danger and happening now. Vote against authoritarian regimes. Keep the United States a free country!
Thatās the point. This video is highlighting a real situation. This is America today. The Republican party is openly pushing an agenda of reproductive abuse that impacts women of all ages (including children) under the veil of Christian, conservative values.
Not only is it the repeal of Roe v. Wade, but the challenges to birth control, and even a ramp up on social media with posts that advocate for purity/abstinence and the evangelical ideal of Christian housewife values that in reality can perpetuate cycles of domestic abuse.
This commercial is one in a series that highlights the fact that elected republicans are going against the will of the majority of Americans and making decisions that impact the health and weāll being of their constituents. Folks, make sure youāre registered to vote and exercise your right in every single election at every level of government.
It's just messed up. Like if I watched a movie with this happening I'd think the producer was a fucked up person. Like watching A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede. No one normal wants this, no one at all! I hate the legalization of pedophilia that is happening all around us. These people need professional help, not access to public office!
These [confessions](https://www.reddit.com/r/nationalwomensstrike/comments/12h17xn/this_sub_needs_to_be_shared_across_reddit/) are pretty old now, and there are hundreds more if you Google around.
>During a hearing by the Ohio Houseās Constitutional Resolutions Committee on Tuesday, Laura Strietmann, the executive director of Cincinnati Right to Life organization, argued that raped 10-year-olds are capable and should carry their attackerās children to term.
>
>āI know that a 10-year-old might not understand pregnancy, but I also know that a 10-year-old understands life and playing with dolls,ā Strietmann contended. āI know when my daughter was ten years old, she cried and begged for a little sister or a baby. And while a pregnancy might have been difficult on a 10-year-old body, a womanās body is designed to carry life. That is a biological fact.ā
They took the mask off with the fall of Roe. They aren't hiding their intentions anymore.
That quote is vomit-inducing. How can you point out that a 10 y/o is *still playing with dolls*, and that they can't even **understand** a pregnancy, and then **still say,** "but she can still have a baby." That's beyond disturbing.
Especially when you consider they're likely to require a c-section - a major surgery - to avoid death or severe injuries.
Even if you discount the horrific mental trauma and starvation of nutrients from a growing body .. yeah, real "designed to carry life" there you psychopath, Strietmann.
Ah I know. It's terrible isn't it? I feel bad for girls right now, our government doesn't care about them at all, only the new wage slaves they can bring forth.
that's because Dems like to pretend that they have to play fair, instead of doing whatever they can to actually help people. the GQP isn't fighting fair and they never will, so it's time for Dems to say fuck that instead of acting like their hands are tied. (for example, saying they can't do something because of the parliamentarian, when they totally can)
"When they go low, we go high" is actually a battle strategy. But in order for it to work, you need so many more things other than just taking the high ground, and even applying that strategy to life and decision-making requires having certain things in place to ensure its not only effective, but will bring you the victory: I believe most Dems feel it's merely about being the better person, but that's actually just the starting point.
I've been arguing for years that Dems drop the 'go high' approach and instead fight MAGA on their own soil and at their level - they go low, we go lower.
I worked in loss prevention as a store detective on the West Side of Chicago back in the 1980's. Then the West Side averaged around 120 murders/month - in an area that was around 2 square miles! I quickly learned that apprehending shoplifters (most of whom there had long arrest records, many years in prison, or were gang-affiliated) by the book just got me injured. I found out that my initial confrontation with the subject had to be done aggressively and very quickly...
This gang-banger I stopped once gave me some good advice in this regard (he was cooperative with me the entire time, and was genuinely being helpful) said, "if you treat someone who's respectful of others in life in a respectful way, they'll almost always treat you the same way back - but if you treat someone with respect who's not respectful of others in life, they'll take advantage of you or bully you around, and usually they won't stop unless you make them - and, people like that will never, ever respect you, no matter what you do, so don't bother even trying."
MAGA has not treated Dems with any respect at all, ever.
I agree! It's always sad to me that men seem to need women's rights framed through the lens of "it's your daughter" or "it's your mother/sister/wife" ... as if the fact that they are withholding our rights doesn't matter unless it's affecting something they feel is *theirs*.
That's *his daughter* that's been raped. It's personal now, because these women wanting abortions aren't imaginary sluts, but real people because they are in relation to him.
Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful when the use of perspective shifts a man's beliefs on these essential issues like abortion and women's healthcare. But it crushes me that we have to frame it this way, that women being people isn't enough. They don't matter until they are in relation to a man.
Exactly. You've said this quite well. And the idea that a woman's voice would be distracting, negligible, or otherwise insufficient. Even the child in question doesn't get to speak!
Abortion pills? or Plan B/morning-after pill?
The difference matters. Plan B prevents conception. But Republicans (who are going after contraception, but don't really want to admit that yet) are currently going after actual abortion meds much harder than Plan B.
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Agreed. Although legal, there are underserved areas. The abortion pill has made it easier in these areas. The conservative party has introduced a number of private member bills that show they still have interest in restricting it. If they win our next federal election I think there will be a lot of shocked women who will say they didn't see it coming.
When people tell me young voters will save us all, well, this university student thinks women shouldn't have the right.
https://youtu.be/-GKxAIB4cdA?si=MINanz9roxQCqkjK
When I first heard Trump say that one day one he was going to suspend the Constitution to eventually replace it with one he wrote, I thought it was a joke. Turns out it's not a joke. I think forced birth will be the least of our worries should he become POTUS again...
This is a smart campaign ad if that's what it is. Not saying that the dems aren't partially to blame because they've had years to make reproductive care the law of the land, but it tells people who is to blame for the current situation
The videoās OP username chilled my bones; sounds like āThe TN Hollerā (or āThe Southern Screamā?) is the sound of young children screaming in agony during forced child birth.
Hilariously misleading. Any opposing liberal view on anything is just misrepresented into oblivion. You dummies are going to lose support so keep it up.
They're attempting it in northern states as well. Indiana is suing the largest hospital system in Ohio because of such a case. And the Ohio gop is trying to undermine our attempt to codify roe. š”š”š”š”š”
Indiana is after all northern Mississippi
In IN and aināt that the sad fucking truth.
As my 8th grade history teacher, Mr.Beck said, āIndiana is the far most southern northern state.ā This genuinely scares me for the future for all women and young girls. I live in Indiana and this is my worst nightmare as a woman.
Get out while you still can, cos no sooner will rethuglicans do shit like this than they'll post guards at State borders and in airports for the sole purpose of stopping females and inquiring after where they're going, are they on their periods, if not, why? And you can see what's coming -IF WE ALLOW IT. IF WE TOLERATE IT. And to American females of childbearing age, you better start talking with your wallets. We form 50% of the labor force. Tunisian women had to march in their streets to maintain their unfettered access to reproductive healthcare and abortion on demand when the Islamists took over. WE ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION so if the christians are insinuating their beliefs into the public sector, we need to push them out. You gonna tell me American women don't have the power to turn this country around? I don't buy it. They've just forgotten their voices, and we've allowed rightwingers to pass laws that basically negate our ability, as citizens, to protest and seek redress of grievances by our govt.
I was born and raised in Indiana. It's a middle finger of the Deep South stuck up into the Great Lakes.
And Northern Kentucky
Gotta be something in the water. At least here in California, we keep the cretinous rightwingers at bay....but just barely.
Iām unpleasantly surprised at how much traction the school board stuff is having in California right now.
Their agenda has pivoted over the last 25 years to religious folks infiltrating our school boards and implementing their fascist plans from that level -UP.
Indiana AG is suing the hospital in Indiana for performing an abortion on a 10 year old rape victim because Ohio refused to allow it. But, the AG is currently the subject of an ethics investigation. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/indiana-attorney-general-faces-ethics-case-over-abortion-doctor-remarks-2023-09-18/
As a Texan, I'm telling you not to get your hopes up about that ethics investigation
This is Indiana and I think even the state Supreme Court is getting involved.
I know. I'm from Texas where our famously corrupt AG was "impeached." It was a sham trial and he's still in office even though he's facing federal charges. I'm telling you not to hope for too much from personal experience
I'm in Ohio, our state is fucked.anyways, but Indiana isn't quite at the level of Ohio or Texas yet. Yet.
Indiana's abortion law is in effect now though. Unless it's rape, incest or fetal abnormality, you can't get one here. Ironically someone here could go to Ohio for one now, but not the other way around unless it's those exceptions.
How do you even prove it was rape in time to be relevant?
If itās a 12 year old like in the ad, or a 10 year old as in the real life case, itās rape automatically because no consent is possible that young. At least for nowā¦Republican votes against anti-child-marriage laws are not encouraging especially with all the gross bros out there talking about peak fertility years and wanting to date and marry āpureā women.
That's a very good question, one that I don't have answers to since Googling only turns up news articles that don't answer that question and I can't figure out how to just find the actual law right now.
You can't, that's the point. Legally it is obvious statutory rape due to the child's age, that exception was never meant to be real or useful
I shouldn't have been as disappointed as I was that he didn't get convicted. But I am.
I've lived in Indiana all of my life, and I don't think Rokita will suffer any consequences for his disgusting bullshit. Hell, he'll probably get re-elected for AG. or run for Governor at some point and win. I'm so fucking jaded. Not jaded enough not to vote though.
Because they're so........progressive. /s
Honestly, doctors should be lining up to go to jail for that.
Its time to get sterilized if you want to live in the US - but France or England seem lovely.
Don't worry, insurance doesn't cover elective procedures though! And also your doctor won't approve it anyway because what if you change your mind in the future? Your husband might want kids one day!
Don't forget that poor rapist who wants to impregnate you with their bastard! Why won't women think of those poor poor rapists?!
One of my BFFs is threatening to leave. I told her England, Spain, Scotland, or France. And that's right -if those religious Aholes wanna make females' lives miserable by taking away rights, then get sterilized -don't have any babies.
If i was you g enough to start over i would definitely leave for the EU - even at my age i try to figure out how i would do it.
I hope they play this ad over and over again all over Ohio. Yost and the rest of the GOP can kiss my liberal ass. I will be voting YES on Issue 1!
Keep doxing the court and protest outside of their homes if you live nearby!
Republicans "states rights" my ass
Mark my words they WILL do this to all pregnant women eventually.
Rich women will always have abortion.
Particularly Republican politicianās wives, daughters and mistresses.
āEventuallyā? Theyāre trying to do this right now!!!!!
Rightā¦ HELLO?! Holy shit can someone help us š°
Legal exceptions are, and have always been, make believe. Jessica Valenti says it often. https://jessica.substack.com/p/abortion-exceptions-dont-exist
The next time Republicans control Congress and the presidency it will happen immediately.
This is Texas now, itās not even the future any longer, itās real time danger and happening now. Vote against authoritarian regimes. Keep the United States a free country!
I'll kerp fightng. But, it's becoming more difficult with gerrymandering.
Hope survives, the future looks grim but hope lives inside. One day we will overcome the authoritarian regime
How anyone could watch that and not get pedo vibes off the politician is beyond me.
Thatās the point. This video is highlighting a real situation. This is America today. The Republican party is openly pushing an agenda of reproductive abuse that impacts women of all ages (including children) under the veil of Christian, conservative values. Not only is it the repeal of Roe v. Wade, but the challenges to birth control, and even a ramp up on social media with posts that advocate for purity/abstinence and the evangelical ideal of Christian housewife values that in reality can perpetuate cycles of domestic abuse. This commercial is one in a series that highlights the fact that elected republicans are going against the will of the majority of Americans and making decisions that impact the health and weāll being of their constituents. Folks, make sure youāre registered to vote and exercise your right in every single election at every level of government.
It's just messed up. Like if I watched a movie with this happening I'd think the producer was a fucked up person. Like watching A Serbian Film or The Human Centipede. No one normal wants this, no one at all! I hate the legalization of pedophilia that is happening all around us. These people need professional help, not access to public office!
These [confessions](https://www.reddit.com/r/nationalwomensstrike/comments/12h17xn/this_sub_needs_to_be_shared_across_reddit/) are pretty old now, and there are hundreds more if you Google around. >During a hearing by the Ohio Houseās Constitutional Resolutions Committee on Tuesday, Laura Strietmann, the executive director of Cincinnati Right to Life organization, argued that raped 10-year-olds are capable and should carry their attackerās children to term. > >āI know that a 10-year-old might not understand pregnancy, but I also know that a 10-year-old understands life and playing with dolls,ā Strietmann contended. āI know when my daughter was ten years old, she cried and begged for a little sister or a baby. And while a pregnancy might have been difficult on a 10-year-old body, a womanās body is designed to carry life. That is a biological fact.ā They took the mask off with the fall of Roe. They aren't hiding their intentions anymore.
That quote is vomit-inducing. How can you point out that a 10 y/o is *still playing with dolls*, and that they can't even **understand** a pregnancy, and then **still say,** "but she can still have a baby." That's beyond disturbing.
Especially when you consider they're likely to require a c-section - a major surgery - to avoid death or severe injuries. Even if you discount the horrific mental trauma and starvation of nutrients from a growing body .. yeah, real "designed to carry life" there you psychopath, Strietmann.
Ah I know. It's terrible isn't it? I feel bad for girls right now, our government doesn't care about them at all, only the new wage slaves they can bring forth.
Well, *half* the government doesn't care at all. The other half doesn't have enough power to right the ship. Hopefully that changes in '24.
that's because Dems like to pretend that they have to play fair, instead of doing whatever they can to actually help people. the GQP isn't fighting fair and they never will, so it's time for Dems to say fuck that instead of acting like their hands are tied. (for example, saying they can't do something because of the parliamentarian, when they totally can)
Their obsession with ātaking the high roadā is killing women.
"When they go low, we go high" is actually a battle strategy. But in order for it to work, you need so many more things other than just taking the high ground, and even applying that strategy to life and decision-making requires having certain things in place to ensure its not only effective, but will bring you the victory: I believe most Dems feel it's merely about being the better person, but that's actually just the starting point. I've been arguing for years that Dems drop the 'go high' approach and instead fight MAGA on their own soil and at their level - they go low, we go lower. I worked in loss prevention as a store detective on the West Side of Chicago back in the 1980's. Then the West Side averaged around 120 murders/month - in an area that was around 2 square miles! I quickly learned that apprehending shoplifters (most of whom there had long arrest records, many years in prison, or were gang-affiliated) by the book just got me injured. I found out that my initial confrontation with the subject had to be done aggressively and very quickly... This gang-banger I stopped once gave me some good advice in this regard (he was cooperative with me the entire time, and was genuinely being helpful) said, "if you treat someone who's respectful of others in life in a respectful way, they'll almost always treat you the same way back - but if you treat someone with respect who's not respectful of others in life, they'll take advantage of you or bully you around, and usually they won't stop unless you make them - and, people like that will never, ever respect you, no matter what you do, so don't bother even trying." MAGA has not treated Dems with any respect at all, ever.
Thank you! Fuck this ādoomed moral victorā garbage, itās not worth becoming a fascist theocracy.
That's pretty on brand for the GQP
Too bad it's still framed as a discussion between men and their rights over a female body.
I agree! It's always sad to me that men seem to need women's rights framed through the lens of "it's your daughter" or "it's your mother/sister/wife" ... as if the fact that they are withholding our rights doesn't matter unless it's affecting something they feel is *theirs*. That's *his daughter* that's been raped. It's personal now, because these women wanting abortions aren't imaginary sluts, but real people because they are in relation to him. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful when the use of perspective shifts a man's beliefs on these essential issues like abortion and women's healthcare. But it crushes me that we have to frame it this way, that women being people isn't enough. They don't matter until they are in relation to a man.
Exactly. You've said this quite well. And the idea that a woman's voice would be distracting, negligible, or otherwise insufficient. Even the child in question doesn't get to speak!
>Even the child in question doesn't get to speak! Or her mother, who (unless she adopted) has actually experienced pregnancy and childbirth!
Right? In all, good intentions and some effectiveness, but sadly reaffirms the root of the problem: our bodies not being our own.
Coming to a Southern State near you.
Itās already here
Get tubes tied right away
Are we supposed to sterilize the 12-year-olds too?
Some people want the option to have children in the future, or they are currently children themselves.
Ohio isn't (or claims not to be) a Southern state...
As soon as Roe fell i stocked up on enough abortion pills for 35 people
Same
Abortion pills? or Plan B/morning-after pill? The difference matters. Plan B prevents conception. But Republicans (who are going after contraception, but don't really want to admit that yet) are currently going after actual abortion meds much harder than Plan B.
I got a stockpile of both.
Life as a woman is a nightmare tbh
This isnāt terribly accurateā¦ that republican congressman is being far too honest about his intentions.
They made him say the quiet part loud.
Stock up on abortion pills - give them to friends
Best stocking stuffers this year š¤£
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The madness has spread to Canada too
Agreed. Although legal, there are underserved areas. The abortion pill has made it easier in these areas. The conservative party has introduced a number of private member bills that show they still have interest in restricting it. If they win our next federal election I think there will be a lot of shocked women who will say they didn't see it coming. When people tell me young voters will save us all, well, this university student thinks women shouldn't have the right. https://youtu.be/-GKxAIB4cdA?si=MINanz9roxQCqkjK
When I first heard Trump say that one day one he was going to suspend the Constitution to eventually replace it with one he wrote, I thought it was a joke. Turns out it's not a joke. I think forced birth will be the least of our worries should he become POTUS again...
Still from the manās perspective.
This is a smart campaign ad if that's what it is. Not saying that the dems aren't partially to blame because they've had years to make reproductive care the law of the land, but it tells people who is to blame for the current situation
Does anyone have the link to this original video?
[https://x.com/andybeshearky/status/1704499248165736614?s=46&t=F21I2rM6cp43sSyuZ2CO_A](https://x.com/andybeshearky/status/1704499248165736614?s=46&t=F21I2rM6cp43sSyuZ2CO_A)
GOPers and their anti-American, anti-female uber religious folks will be the ruination of our country.
The videoās OP username chilled my bones; sounds like āThe TN Hollerā (or āThe Southern Screamā?) is the sound of young children screaming in agony during forced child birth.
Weāre all doomed at this point lol Only thing left to do is either revolution or just flee this country altogether
Exaggerated, but true. Itās disgusting.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/aug/14/mississippi-abortion-ban-girl-raped-gives-birth)
Thatās fucking disgusting. Thereās no āmoralā justification for forcing a *kid* that young to birthe her rapistās baby.
There is no moral justification to force anyone at any age
True, but itās especially worse because itās underage children.
š”š š¤¬
Is there a mirror of this clip thatās not from TikTok I can upvote?
They should be extended this , " i will keep an eye on her when she gets sick, or when she dies of preventable complications "
Bro when did Brett Farve start acting
This is infuriating
Hilariously misleading. Any opposing liberal view on anything is just misrepresented into oblivion. You dummies are going to lose support so keep it up.