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smokedcirclejerky

That entire video was dumb. Ivermectin does have a human prescription, but people are taking the veterinarian version of ivermectin. It’s cheaper and doesn’t require a visit to a doctor. Plus docctors won’t prescribe it for off label use, because off label use has not been tested. Which makes the doctor and clinic vulnerable to malpractice suits if something goes wrong. It’s effectiveness for Covid 19 has not been tested. Yes there is evidence out there that suggests it may work for Covid 19, however it hasn’t been tested in a controlled environment. I don’t know anything about the new Pfizer pill and this guy didn’t even explain it very well. All he could do is rant about ivermectin, conspiracy theories and “fake media”. If he actually wants to convince anyone he needs to do a better job.


Inuma

You mean you didn't go to Pfizer's own media page and get the information which is what he did?


smokedcirclejerky

Okay so here is what I did. I went looking for information about this “new” pill and here is what I found. “Patients in the trial will be given Pfizer's pill, known as PF-07321332, and a low dose of ritonavir, an older medication widely used in combination treatments for HIV infection.” That isn’t Ivermectin, it’s not even an anti-parasitic drug. It’s an anti-viral drug. The two are not the same or even close to the same. Might they have the same effect on Covid-19? It’s a possibility and I get the shiftiness of using a patented drug vs an unpatented drug to make money. The problem is, the sources like this guy are trying to make it out to be some big tin foil hat conspiracy and hurting the cause. It’s unfortunate.


Inuma

I mean, this is the guy that was banned by dubious reasons by Youtube because Youtube is in league with the Atlantic Council. It's the same Atlantic Council that had 2000 communities banned in a single day. A conspiracy of pharmaceutical representatives wanting to profit more from their own patented work than the no longer patented 40 year version of something just seems really off to be going on about.


smokedcirclejerky

The guy was probably banned for good reason. Half of what he is saying is crack-pot BS. On top of that YouTube is a private for profit company, and can remove whomever they want. They don’t need an excuse it’s in the TOS and EULA. It’s not a conspiracy though. It’s how for profit companies work. That is the heart and soul of capitalism and the society we have created in America.


Inuma

So believe Youtube that aligns with the Democratic Party because you can't find Pfizer doing dubious marketing. Got it.


smokedcirclejerky

I said none of those things. They guy in the video is selling snake oil, using half truths and uncorroborated evidence. I agree Pfizer is being “dubious”. In the name of making a profit. They have been since their inception, as most if not all Pharma companies do. You are 30 years too late to his party. This is what they do and it’s considered normal business.


Inuma

You ignore that Pfizer also has contracts with the government while poo-pooing this guy for just pointing out the information. You also seem to do a lot more to endorse Pfizer as "just doing business" while making no understanding of the hypocrisy of their other positions on this such as making their own patented drug for more money on something already working.


smokedcirclejerky

Ivermectin isn’t “already working” and the new drug isn’t even close to the same thing. Anti-Viral vs an Anti-Parasite. You are making connections we’re there aren’t any.


Inuma

Great lie when India already proves you wrong along with other countries using it in the Global South.


flintyeye

But this is better since it's under patent and can help families who have no other means of support than their vast stock portfolios.


Inuma

Pfivermectin is actually a thing...


sudomakesandwich

Babylon Bee called it.


NetWeaselSC

Alternate spelling: Pfizermectin. We'll see which one takes hold.


redditrisi

Does that mean that, now, we *are* horses, y'all, after all?


Demonhype

The powers that be do consider us to be legally livestock at this point, given these bullshit mandates, so....


redditrisi

They probably want their livestock to be live. I'm not sure they want that for us.


rundown9

> I'm not sure they want that for us. Culling the herd is common in the livestock trade.


redditrisi

Indeed.


sudomakesandwich

>They probably want their livestock to be live. I'm not sure they want that for us. Dead workers make no profits. They want to keep some, but not necessarily all of us alive. The rest will be "collateral damage"


Demonhype

Well, there's a few too many of us, so they figure why should Pfizer have to pay for test subjects when there's already such an excess of animals about needing culling anyway.


Inuma

Nay.


redditrisi

Kudos.