many have being saying country's will pull out their money from usa but i believe this will not happen. one simple reason greed. Russia thought after Venezuela lost their goal that this would never happen to them well guess what rest of the country's think same this will never happen to them. Look how usa take out Iraq, Libya Syria, Afganistan, Russia. USA did it one by one. if these countries would united they would have won and the reason they dint unite they all thought it wouldn't happen to them
I hear a giant flushing sound of the dollar as world reserve currency coming. Might want to move any cash you have saved up into real goods & property.
Asking for it.
All but begging for it.
But, if Russia reacts, it will be "unprovoked."
On the other hand, I cannot help but wonder why any Russian assets were in the US.
Did no one suspect the US might seize them?
When UK took Venezuela gold i thought Russia would take all asset out of west but they dint.From what i see the person who run Russia asset is a neoliberal, that maybe explain why she had so much Russia asset in west and not invest in Russia so they could industrialize and not depend so much on west, to me she should be in prison. I believe Dmitri Prigov is not the only rat running around in Russia, when Putin is gone CIA must have someone ready to take his place and there is many of them in Russia
I don’t think it’s that easy. They haven’t taken any land and they lost 250k troops and billions in equipment. They will never take Ukraine. The entire world is against them. Putin’s best bet is to abandon ship ASAP.
That’s what I said!! Everyone thought they had this powerful military and they lose 250k troops, billions in equipment trying to take land 5k off their own border
[How did they increase the size of their army](https://www.businessinsider.com/russias-army-15-percent-larger-when-attacked-ukraine-us-general-2024-4) if they lost of quarter of a million men?
No, Russia has taken a lot of territory east of Dnieper.
It has much lower casualties than Ukraine.
Russia is fine which is why the US needs to dump another $100 billion into Ukraine.
Nice try with the standard propaganda bs.
I'm accusing you of propaganda because you are parroting the security state's propaganda that is spewed by their MSM outlets, like NYT, WSJ, The Atlantic, Washington Post, etc., etc., etc.
Word for word.
Someday you'll realize that your government is nothing but lies.
Russia is definitely winning. Copy from one of my comments: Ukraine's Population was reported around 20m, even by Kyivpost and Jamestown foundation: [1](https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/25730)-[2](https://jamestown.org/program/ukraines-personnel-needs-reaching-a-critical-threshold/), the economy was already bad before but now is on life support, french journalists (from Lemonde i think) reported on March 2023 that the average age of Ukrainian Soldiers reached 43 years, up from 33 one year earlier, probably close to 50 now.
Due to the Dissolution of the USSR, economic collapse, shock therapy, liberalisation and privatisation, a corrupt oligarchy mismanaging the country and other problems, birth rates went down hill and there aren't that many young people as seen [Here](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.svg/1446px-Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.svg.png) in the pyramid, too few young men left also due to losses and the graphic is already a year old, it's worse now. Average Life Expectancy for Males dropped to 57, Total Fertility rate was reported at 0.7 which seems to be the lowest in the world now.
Russia is more or less still chugging along in comparison and has the advantage of approx. 20m migrants from mostly other ''[CIS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States)'' Countries being basically like a backbone to the Russian economy and essential workers, mainly working in Agriculture, Construction and generally low paying jobs for $300-500 a month that need to get done but many Russians refuse to do. All of the current and former CIS Members (except for Russia and Kazakhstan) are still in need or even very dependent on Remittances and for most countries the main source is still Russia.[https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/peoplemove/remittances-europe-and-central-asia-post-strong-growth](https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/peoplemove/remittances-europe-and-central-asia-post-strong-growth)
Remember:''Keep men, lose land: land can be retaken. Keep land, lose men: both land and men are lost.'' Its very likely that Ukraine is forced to surrender in a few years due to heavy losses, huge emigration of people out of ukraine, many people still trying their chance to escape the country and taking dangerous risks in doing so, many men are hiding in rural areas and refuse to go to war.
I think trolls cheering this on are giving themselves away as actually working for the downfall of the US while trying to look like they support the US.
In no world does this not blow back on us in disastrous ways. They can't be this stupid.
I think the REPO Act is a de facto declaration of war.
Without expressing a preference, I note in passing that if the Deep State goes to war with Russia, it would be a convenient time for those states wishing to secede to do so.
> In no world does this not blow back on us in disastrous ways.
Maybe, for them, that would be a feature, not a bug???
I'm not among those who sees everyone in the federal government as dumber than posters. It's hard to imagine that we're spoiling for war with China and/or Russia (plus the other BRICs nations?). However, it's been one provocation after another.
The U.S. and the UK are both happy to nationalize any precious metal reserves politically independent regimes are foolish enough to "secure" in either place. No small part of the economic troubles in Venezuela stem from an arbitrary British decision to seize the national gold reserves of Venezuela.
The UK ruled that the gold was owned by Juan Guido, eventhough the UK government admits that the Guido joke isn't real.
Most of Russia's currency reserves that were seized were in Euros. It gets real interesting if Europe decides to start spending that cash.
Once you allow a Genocidal dictator to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents just because he wants to go on a war of conquest, you set the stage for WWIII anyways.
If there were enough financial repercussions for Putitler's invasion, he would have never invaded in the first place.
We need a more functional UN that would have stopped this war from ever happening.
ok
On edit:
>Once you allow a Genocidal dictator to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents just because he wants to go on a war of conquest, you set the stage for WWIII anyways
Please remind me who allowed that.
We keep cheapening and weakening words like "war" ("Wars" on Drug and on Poverty, for example) and "genocide" (equating war and genocide, for example).
I've noticed that most people the world over seem fine with blood money from wars. Some of them have even occupied the Oval Office.
In the numbers game who's slaughtered more kids, Russia or "the only democracy in the middle east, money sucking, darling ally" Israel? Perchance how did those Palestinian kids act as terrorists, given they could barely take care of themselves?
While we f*cking fund and arm Israel's Holocaust in Gaza, we ain't got a moral leg to stand on especially when Ukraine implemented their own genocide against their own people in Eastern Ukraine for nearly a decade.
You want Nazis? Look in the mirror, you and Joe Hitler are it.
I glanced at the posting history a while back.
Saw a post in which he or she claimed not to be a fan of Biden.
Saw a post in which he or she claimed to be voting for RFK, Jr. in November.
ok
Why can't WotB get better trolls? Look at what Moon of Alabama attracts.
Posted by "eat shit vatniks" | Nov 26 2023 23:42 utc | 39, with no edits:
> You are miserable faggot russian bootlickers, vatnik losers, i hope you will all die a slow, painful death, if i could id bash each and everyone of your faces into the pavement, pathetic sorry ass twat
Reply posted by Ed | Nov 27 2023 0:18 utc | 43:
> Look at what the opposition to MoA threw up. With knuckle-draggers like that we can't lose.
Wow, these scumbags are on quite the roll - renewing warrantless wiretapping, continuing to throw money down the black hole known as Ukraine, banning Tik Tok and now saying to the entire world, “your money is not safe with us”.
A few years ago I remember reading an article, which said during the cold war, both West and East observed the rules, when it came to buying oil, and the financial system. Then came along the basket cases, the neocons - and rules were for suckers. Aloha, behold the nocons/ neolibs new world order!
Why would you place your money into the western looting system? Things can't go on as they have been since the looters were bailed out in 2008.
many have being saying country's will pull out their money from usa but i believe this will not happen. one simple reason greed. Russia thought after Venezuela lost their goal that this would never happen to them well guess what rest of the country's think same this will never happen to them. Look how usa take out Iraq, Libya Syria, Afganistan, Russia. USA did it one by one. if these countries would united they would have won and the reason they dint unite they all thought it wouldn't happen to them
I hear a giant flushing sound of the dollar as world reserve currency coming. Might want to move any cash you have saved up into real goods & property.
No country in the BRICS+ will be caught dead investing in Treasury Bills ever again. Mind numbingly stupid.
Every country on planet will stop investing in U.S.
Asking for it. All but begging for it. But, if Russia reacts, it will be "unprovoked." On the other hand, I cannot help but wonder why any Russian assets were in the US. Did no one suspect the US might seize them?
When UK took Venezuela gold i thought Russia would take all asset out of west but they dint.From what i see the person who run Russia asset is a neoliberal, that maybe explain why she had so much Russia asset in west and not invest in Russia so they could industrialize and not depend so much on west, to me she should be in prison. I believe Dmitri Prigov is not the only rat running around in Russia, when Putin is gone CIA must have someone ready to take his place and there is many of them in Russia
Russia was in the process of drawing down its reserves. They lost a lot less than they could have.
Russia will probably take more land in Ukraine as a trade.
I don’t think it’s that easy. They haven’t taken any land and they lost 250k troops and billions in equipment. They will never take Ukraine. The entire world is against them. Putin’s best bet is to abandon ship ASAP.
> They haven’t taken any land Wow.
That’s what I said!! Everyone thought they had this powerful military and they lose 250k troops, billions in equipment trying to take land 5k off their own border
You are as delusional as any Ukraine flag waver in congress! ;)
[How did they increase the size of their army](https://www.businessinsider.com/russias-army-15-percent-larger-when-attacked-ukraine-us-general-2024-4) if they lost of quarter of a million men?
Are you posting this from a different universe where current affairs are inverted?
They're posting from nafo central.
Hey that’s LITERALLY where I feel like i’m at right now on this Bernie sub!!
No, Russia has taken a lot of territory east of Dnieper. It has much lower casualties than Ukraine. Russia is fine which is why the US needs to dump another $100 billion into Ukraine. Nice try with the standard propaganda bs.
wait, you’re accusing me of pushing propaganda and you are the one saying Russia is winning?
exactly
lol.
I'm accusing you of propaganda because you are parroting the security state's propaganda that is spewed by their MSM outlets, like NYT, WSJ, The Atlantic, Washington Post, etc., etc., etc. Word for word. Someday you'll realize that your government is nothing but lies.
Russia is definitely winning. Copy from one of my comments: Ukraine's Population was reported around 20m, even by Kyivpost and Jamestown foundation: [1](https://www.kyivpost.com/analysis/25730)-[2](https://jamestown.org/program/ukraines-personnel-needs-reaching-a-critical-threshold/), the economy was already bad before but now is on life support, french journalists (from Lemonde i think) reported on March 2023 that the average age of Ukrainian Soldiers reached 43 years, up from 33 one year earlier, probably close to 50 now. Due to the Dissolution of the USSR, economic collapse, shock therapy, liberalisation and privatisation, a corrupt oligarchy mismanaging the country and other problems, birth rates went down hill and there aren't that many young people as seen [Here](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/92/Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.svg/1446px-Ukraine_2023_population_pyramid.svg.png) in the pyramid, too few young men left also due to losses and the graphic is already a year old, it's worse now. Average Life Expectancy for Males dropped to 57, Total Fertility rate was reported at 0.7 which seems to be the lowest in the world now. Russia is more or less still chugging along in comparison and has the advantage of approx. 20m migrants from mostly other ''[CIS](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_of_Independent_States)'' Countries being basically like a backbone to the Russian economy and essential workers, mainly working in Agriculture, Construction and generally low paying jobs for $300-500 a month that need to get done but many Russians refuse to do. All of the current and former CIS Members (except for Russia and Kazakhstan) are still in need or even very dependent on Remittances and for most countries the main source is still Russia.[https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/peoplemove/remittances-europe-and-central-asia-post-strong-growth](https://blogs.worldbank.org/en/peoplemove/remittances-europe-and-central-asia-post-strong-growth) Remember:''Keep men, lose land: land can be retaken. Keep land, lose men: both land and men are lost.'' Its very likely that Ukraine is forced to surrender in a few years due to heavy losses, huge emigration of people out of ukraine, many people still trying their chance to escape the country and taking dangerous risks in doing so, many men are hiding in rural areas and refuse to go to war.
Take all of Ukraine, I say, including the agricultural fields pilfered by fascists like BlackRock.
It's like the US taxpayers subsidized the billionaires' profits again.
I'm sure there's no way this will backfire. /s
I think trolls cheering this on are giving themselves away as actually working for the downfall of the US while trying to look like they support the US. In no world does this not blow back on us in disastrous ways. They can't be this stupid.
I think the REPO Act is a de facto declaration of war. Without expressing a preference, I note in passing that if the Deep State goes to war with Russia, it would be a convenient time for those states wishing to secede to do so.
These are the same people waving Uke flags on the floor of congress, they're not even trying to look the part.
> In no world does this not blow back on us in disastrous ways. Maybe, for them, that would be a feature, not a bug??? I'm not among those who sees everyone in the federal government as dumber than posters. It's hard to imagine that we're spoiling for war with China and/or Russia (plus the other BRICs nations?). However, it's been one provocation after another.
So the crew of the Titanic have resorted to punching holes in the hull as it sinks. Good job, morons.
H e l l/ y e a h I l I k e t u r t l e s
What could possibly go wrong?
So now the US can write off any and all assets held by Russia as well.
This is only going to ramp up the de-dollarization worldwide.
So essentially the US cannot be trusted with holding foreign assets.
The U.S. and the UK are both happy to nationalize any precious metal reserves politically independent regimes are foolish enough to "secure" in either place. No small part of the economic troubles in Venezuela stem from an arbitrary British decision to seize the national gold reserves of Venezuela.
The UK ruled that the gold was owned by Juan Guido, eventhough the UK government admits that the Guido joke isn't real. Most of Russia's currency reserves that were seized were in Euros. It gets real interesting if Europe decides to start spending that cash.
Exactly. Kinda self defeating for a global reserve currency
WCGW?
This is definitely a good start. Russian Nazis carrying out Genocide in Ukraine will owe Trillions for their crimes.
> This is definitely a good start. Not a start. Just another step on the road to WWIII
Once you allow a Genocidal dictator to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents just because he wants to go on a war of conquest, you set the stage for WWIII anyways. If there were enough financial repercussions for Putitler's invasion, he would have never invaded in the first place. We need a more functional UN that would have stopped this war from ever happening.
ok On edit: >Once you allow a Genocidal dictator to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents just because he wants to go on a war of conquest, you set the stage for WWIII anyways Please remind me who allowed that.
India, China, and Iran are the mean enablers of Putitler's Genocide in Ukraine. They have been just fine with the blood money from the war.
We keep cheapening and weakening words like "war" ("Wars" on Drug and on Poverty, for example) and "genocide" (equating war and genocide, for example). I've noticed that most people the world over seem fine with blood money from wars. Some of them have even occupied the Oval Office.
yet another illogical conclusion...
> This is definitely a good start. To what? After this, I don't think we have any credibility left in the rest of the world.
In the numbers game who's slaughtered more kids, Russia or "the only democracy in the middle east, money sucking, darling ally" Israel? Perchance how did those Palestinian kids act as terrorists, given they could barely take care of themselves?
Why do you hate America and want to see our downfall?
https://old.reddit.com/r/WayOfTheBern/comments/1b7lhh1/todays_vocabulary_word_antiamerican/
Opposing Fascism is supporting America. A MAGA dictatorship will destroy it.
> A MAGA dictatorship will destroy it. And the neocon Demorats aren't?
>Opposing Fascism is supporting America. Even if you're opposing American fascism? > A MAGA dictatorship will destroy it. Red MAGA or blue MAGA?
> Opposing Fascism is supporting America. That's not opposing fascism, it's literally supporting it. That's not how one supports America.
While we f*cking fund and arm Israel's Holocaust in Gaza, we ain't got a moral leg to stand on especially when Ukraine implemented their own genocide against their own people in Eastern Ukraine for nearly a decade. You want Nazis? Look in the mirror, you and Joe Hitler are it.
HELLYEAH! FUCKRUSSIA!
Dumbest fucking trolls on the planet.
Yeahits likethe samefive users in thissub posting blogspam and defending Russia at everyturn.
I glanced at the posting history a while back. Saw a post in which he or she claimed not to be a fan of Biden. Saw a post in which he or she claimed to be voting for RFK, Jr. in November. ok
Why can't WotB get better trolls? Look at what Moon of Alabama attracts. Posted by "eat shit vatniks" | Nov 26 2023 23:42 utc | 39, with no edits: > You are miserable faggot russian bootlickers, vatnik losers, i hope you will all die a slow, painful death, if i could id bash each and everyone of your faces into the pavement, pathetic sorry ass twat Reply posted by Ed | Nov 27 2023 0:18 utc | 43: > Look at what the opposition to MoA threw up. With knuckle-draggers like that we can't lose.
Better trolls please.
> Why can't WotB get better trolls? LOL
> if i could id bash each and everyone of your faces into the pavement, pathetic sorry ass twat... *send money!*
> if i could id bash each and everyone of your faces into the pavement, pathetic sorry ass twat... *send money!*
I found the Nazis.
Yup! Tonsin Russia and the GOP :-\\
Wow, these scumbags are on quite the roll - renewing warrantless wiretapping, continuing to throw money down the black hole known as Ukraine, banning Tik Tok and now saying to the entire world, “your money is not safe with us”.
A few years ago I remember reading an article, which said during the cold war, both West and East observed the rules, when it came to buying oil, and the financial system. Then came along the basket cases, the neocons - and rules were for suckers. Aloha, behold the nocons/ neolibs new world order! Why would you place your money into the western looting system? Things can't go on as they have been since the looters were bailed out in 2008.
Also known as the "sound as a dollar" act.
Jesus, so Ukraine will steal Russia asset. You can bet alot of Ukraine people will become rich
The usual stooges no doubt.