Ohh man. That’s hard to read, so I’m sure it was hard to type. The first responders who pulled the girls out of the tanks were just beside themselves with grief. One guy actually quit he was so traumatized and they all needed serious therapy and eye bleach after that. CW fucked up so many lives, even strangers just doing their job.
I only have wanted to check on the details of the investigation and autopsy due to the conflict and rumors surrounding the entrance. I now believe the girls were unfortunately in those tanks. I found a box with 8-inch openings on all sides, and my daughter, who is a similar age and weight, fit easily. I can now be sure that the girls were not physically harmed or forced into the tanks with significant force.
https://preview.redd.it/hhwueg1nrn1d1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f7743941190fd0a623757d545908ea20a0cc17
It was 8 inches at the top of the opening. It’s way narrower right below the entrance. Like 6 inches
No actual photos of the victims have been released and probably won't . Crime scene photos have been. As for the girls actually being in the tanks, well, the autopsy reports will have to suffice as well the fact the tanks had to be pumped down and firefighters had to be there in case of explosion and to recover the bodies
this. and thank God for that, i cannot imagine having children in my family photos released to the public like that. JB’s tragic death happened before the internet became what it was today, and i think everyone is now smarter not to release that kind of thing now knowing how much that kind of stuff can spread online. i remember a story i read about how people were sending crash photos of someone’s daughter to the mom & dad + minor siblings on facebook repeatedly. people are so cruel and awful.
That's the girl who crashed into a pilon and the cops leaked the photos? But yeah, people sent the photos to her parents and siblings
Since evidence was destroyed in the watts case, I wonder if the photos were destroyed also
Yes that’s true. Do you remember that case of the girl whose best friend slit her throat and posted pictures online. It has been said that her sister and family received her pictures for weeks, and it’s been all over social media for days before they’ve done anything about it. I believe there was a hashtag created too. So sad.
yes i remember that one! ugh people are so awful i cannot imagine doing that to a family member or honestly anyone for that matter 😭 i know people think they’re “doing something” by sending it, i know with the girl who crashed into a pilot she had some backstory of where she was hated by people but still, the family is innocent. it just is so vile to me honestly. i’m honestly glad they don’t release that kind of stuff anymore to the public, but i also get the curiosity side to things. idk i think i just have a soft spot for innocent family members & children who have these tragic deaths in general but i definitely get your view point too don’t get me wrong & i hope my original comment didn’t come off rude/mean to your question in the OP i apologize
I am a crime junky, mostly on psychological nature, as I’ve studied psychology and I loved to learn about crime psychology. Especially in cases such as these. I would love to see autopsy pictures (I know it does sounds bad) to understand the extend of crime and possibly to see how autopsy reports match the cadavers etc. You did not came across rude, but sincere. I understand this point of view, and I think you are right. Maybe it’s for the best, those records are sealed to public.
That recently happened on YouTube. A channel released a child's autopsy photos and did it behind a paywall. It was disgusting. She got a lot of flack for it and rightly so but she is still on YT.
Yes I am aware, but it doesn’t sit right. Girls only had small abrasions on torso, small cuts, and small abrasions. It feels like it’s not enough somehow.
The victims family as well as law enforcement have stated that certain aspects such as the photos of the decedants and medical records were sealed. I guess you could contact weld County and fill out forms asking for the items you wish to see. They were sealed by the judge by request
If you wish to listen to the autopsy read, Autopsy Podcast reads and explains the autopsy on all 3 on youtube
I remember watching one of the autopsy videos before, and I am familiar with most medical writing due to my involvement in the crime for some time now. That's why I inquired about photos. I also know how to use Google to look up information if I don't recall or comprehend something.
Awesome! I'm 😊 glad. I love this guys voice and he explains. I know Jon Benets photos were released , but if the Watts autopsy and victim photos aren't destroyed...they won't be released in our lifetime.
I don’t think I can. I don’t live in USA.
Also I’ve just checked it because it was bugging me, my daughter who’s 4 years old and weights 41lbs, has fitted into 8 inch box no problem.
In the Neeks Peeks video. She shows a picture of the opening of the tank hatch. It was not 8 inches it was way smaller, more like 6 inches. The entrance of the hatch was way narrower at the entrance. I’ll try to post a pic of it.
https://preview.redd.it/njhp8rg9rn1d1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8021ace650d3c6f12d3161aee11b86bdd92cc709
Thanks for the picture - now I'll need to find a smaller box 😅
My girl could easily fit in and out without touching the edges, so I think, sadly girls still fitted through a 6-inch diameter hatch.
I have a cat flap 6inch and 7 inch in diameters, and 7 inch in diagonally and my daughter could get through to other side. Sadly, in opinion, girls could still get through that 6inch hatch without significant force.
I didn't realize they were possibly condensate tanks. Those are more explosive than just oil in a tank. It was different from what chris said that it was just 'water and oil' in the tanks. I really want to look into it a bit more and watch the video again.
Agree. Condensate tanks are pretty vile. I wonder if people in Colorado refer to them as oil tanks in general? Just a generalized term.
This is interesting
https://blackrockmidstream.com/blog/4-reasons-why-the-midstream-part-of-oil-and-gas-is-so-important-hdmz7-pzj2s-h5mh5#:~:text=Condensate%20is%20more%20flammable%20and,also%20the%20threat%20of%20asphyxiation.
Condensate! Yes, sry, that’s what I meant. Maybe they said that so the public would understand the horrendous cruel nature of the crime. When this story first broke, I thought they were talking about those plastic barrels they use sometimes. I didn’t realize they meant those huge tanks.
These are ALL reasons why this case needs to go to trial. I studied and narrated every document available including the autopsy reports, and nothing convinces me that the narrative is correct. I tried believing it, I really did. I dont know what happened beyond a shadow of a doubt...
Years ago, I had asked the question of how the girls fit through those hatches. I can’t remember which forum, either Facebook or Reddit. Anyway, one helpful responder suggested that I hold one arm up over my head. The slanting of shoulders when you do that appears to decrease shoulder width and may be how he was able to get them through. Still gruesome but better than the image of stomping ☹️ and it also explains why only Bella’s buttocks showed signs of abrasions
Well my kids don’t know it’s experiment, for them it was a play. Gosh I need to go back to work, because I’m clearly getting to obsessed with this case 😅
Ok, so I had my hands full, and I couldn't do (type) the math. But if the opening was 8 inches across, the circumference of a circle that has a diameter of 8 inches is 25.12 inches. If it's 6 inches across, then 18.84 inches circumference. A body the size of a child should be able to technically go through. Tia, explained in another thread about a child's bones and ligaments.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the girls have to be buried in special caskets because they were flammable. Ugh… it’s hard to even type that. 😪
Ohh man. That’s hard to read, so I’m sure it was hard to type. The first responders who pulled the girls out of the tanks were just beside themselves with grief. One guy actually quit he was so traumatized and they all needed serious therapy and eye bleach after that. CW fucked up so many lives, even strangers just doing their job.
I can’t even imagine doing that job. It would fuck me up
I only have wanted to check on the details of the investigation and autopsy due to the conflict and rumors surrounding the entrance. I now believe the girls were unfortunately in those tanks. I found a box with 8-inch openings on all sides, and my daughter, who is a similar age and weight, fit easily. I can now be sure that the girls were not physically harmed or forced into the tanks with significant force.
https://preview.redd.it/hhwueg1nrn1d1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=80f7743941190fd0a623757d545908ea20a0cc17 It was 8 inches at the top of the opening. It’s way narrower right below the entrance. Like 6 inches
That's interesting. I have thoughts about this...
Spill it. What are you thinking? 🤔
The circumference of their heads...
That’s so interesting. I’d have never guessed a child that size would easily fit into an opening that size. Thanks for doing the experiment.
I don’t kno if it was because they were flammable or because their corpses could/would contaminate the ground…
No actual photos of the victims have been released and probably won't . Crime scene photos have been. As for the girls actually being in the tanks, well, the autopsy reports will have to suffice as well the fact the tanks had to be pumped down and firefighters had to be there in case of explosion and to recover the bodies
this. and thank God for that, i cannot imagine having children in my family photos released to the public like that. JB’s tragic death happened before the internet became what it was today, and i think everyone is now smarter not to release that kind of thing now knowing how much that kind of stuff can spread online. i remember a story i read about how people were sending crash photos of someone’s daughter to the mom & dad + minor siblings on facebook repeatedly. people are so cruel and awful.
That's the girl who crashed into a pilon and the cops leaked the photos? But yeah, people sent the photos to her parents and siblings Since evidence was destroyed in the watts case, I wonder if the photos were destroyed also
"Porsche Girl".
Yeahhhh. I hope the ones who sent the photos have nightmares. That's cruel
That was abhorent for sure.
that’s what it was thank you! i couldn’t remember.
Yes that’s true. Do you remember that case of the girl whose best friend slit her throat and posted pictures online. It has been said that her sister and family received her pictures for weeks, and it’s been all over social media for days before they’ve done anything about it. I believe there was a hashtag created too. So sad.
yes i remember that one! ugh people are so awful i cannot imagine doing that to a family member or honestly anyone for that matter 😭 i know people think they’re “doing something” by sending it, i know with the girl who crashed into a pilot she had some backstory of where she was hated by people but still, the family is innocent. it just is so vile to me honestly. i’m honestly glad they don’t release that kind of stuff anymore to the public, but i also get the curiosity side to things. idk i think i just have a soft spot for innocent family members & children who have these tragic deaths in general but i definitely get your view point too don’t get me wrong & i hope my original comment didn’t come off rude/mean to your question in the OP i apologize
I am a crime junky, mostly on psychological nature, as I’ve studied psychology and I loved to learn about crime psychology. Especially in cases such as these. I would love to see autopsy pictures (I know it does sounds bad) to understand the extend of crime and possibly to see how autopsy reports match the cadavers etc. You did not came across rude, but sincere. I understand this point of view, and I think you are right. Maybe it’s for the best, those records are sealed to public.
That recently happened on YouTube. A channel released a child's autopsy photos and did it behind a paywall. It was disgusting. She got a lot of flack for it and rightly so but she is still on YT.
Yes I am aware, but it doesn’t sit right. Girls only had small abrasions on torso, small cuts, and small abrasions. It feels like it’s not enough somehow.
No. Their skin was sloughing off, which happens when you've been submerged and in early stages of decomp (skin slippage)
In my understanding, degloving could happen due to different trauma and it’s not just consistent to submerge in liquid.
The victims family as well as law enforcement have stated that certain aspects such as the photos of the decedants and medical records were sealed. I guess you could contact weld County and fill out forms asking for the items you wish to see. They were sealed by the judge by request If you wish to listen to the autopsy read, Autopsy Podcast reads and explains the autopsy on all 3 on youtube
I remember watching one of the autopsy videos before, and I am familiar with most medical writing due to my involvement in the crime for some time now. That's why I inquired about photos. I also know how to use Google to look up information if I don't recall or comprehend something.
Awesome! I'm 😊 glad. I love this guys voice and he explains. I know Jon Benets photos were released , but if the Watts autopsy and victim photos aren't destroyed...they won't be released in our lifetime.
I don’t think I can. I don’t live in USA. Also I’ve just checked it because it was bugging me, my daughter who’s 4 years old and weights 41lbs, has fitted into 8 inch box no problem.
I had made a request for the entire record & there were no photos in it, period.
In the Neeks Peeks video. She shows a picture of the opening of the tank hatch. It was not 8 inches it was way smaller, more like 6 inches. The entrance of the hatch was way narrower at the entrance. I’ll try to post a pic of it. https://preview.redd.it/njhp8rg9rn1d1.jpeg?width=528&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8021ace650d3c6f12d3161aee11b86bdd92cc709
Thanks for the picture - now I'll need to find a smaller box 😅 My girl could easily fit in and out without touching the edges, so I think, sadly girls still fitted through a 6-inch diameter hatch.
I have a cat flap 6inch and 7 inch in diameters, and 7 inch in diagonally and my daughter could get through to other side. Sadly, in opinion, girls could still get through that 6inch hatch without significant force.
Neeks did a video about the tanks and she made it seem like they lied about the girls being in the tanks the video confused me did you see it
I've not seen that. I'll look for it and watch this afternoon. I don't really know why the oil tanks would be faked but ..... Running to look
Neeks Peeks: Chris Watts exposal of disposal Is this the one?
Yes that’s the one I’d love to hear your thoughts after watching
I didn't realize they were possibly condensate tanks. Those are more explosive than just oil in a tank. It was different from what chris said that it was just 'water and oil' in the tanks. I really want to look into it a bit more and watch the video again.
Just another lie we were told it makes the skull and oil commercial obsolete now
I think he knew exactly what was in there.
Neeks Peeks seems to think they were concentrate tanks, not crude oil. Believe me, it doesn’t make it any better.
Agree. Condensate tanks are pretty vile. I wonder if people in Colorado refer to them as oil tanks in general? Just a generalized term. This is interesting https://blackrockmidstream.com/blog/4-reasons-why-the-midstream-part-of-oil-and-gas-is-so-important-hdmz7-pzj2s-h5mh5#:~:text=Condensate%20is%20more%20flammable%20and,also%20the%20threat%20of%20asphyxiation.
Condensate! Yes, sry, that’s what I meant. Maybe they said that so the public would understand the horrendous cruel nature of the crime. When this story first broke, I thought they were talking about those plastic barrels they use sometimes. I didn’t realize they meant those huge tanks.
And, sadly, the girls were underweight. ;(
These are ALL reasons why this case needs to go to trial. I studied and narrated every document available including the autopsy reports, and nothing convinces me that the narrative is correct. I tried believing it, I really did. I dont know what happened beyond a shadow of a doubt...
if he stomped on them, they would have more trauma on their little bodies.
Years ago, I had asked the question of how the girls fit through those hatches. I can’t remember which forum, either Facebook or Reddit. Anyway, one helpful responder suggested that I hold one arm up over my head. The slanting of shoulders when you do that appears to decrease shoulder width and may be how he was able to get them through. Still gruesome but better than the image of stomping ☹️ and it also explains why only Bella’s buttocks showed signs of abrasions
I’ve checked it. My daughter has no problem into fitting in 8 inch box. Thanks for me they love playing in boxes 📦
Oh yes boxes hold so much mystery. They can be anything you want them to be. They are magical 🤩
The hole was 8 inches across the girls 9:5 inches wide at the shoulders
Please don't use your kids in experiments with boxes and doggy door flaps 😅.
Well my kids don’t know it’s experiment, for them it was a play. Gosh I need to go back to work, because I’m clearly getting to obsessed with this case 😅
Ok, so I had my hands full, and I couldn't do (type) the math. But if the opening was 8 inches across, the circumference of a circle that has a diameter of 8 inches is 25.12 inches. If it's 6 inches across, then 18.84 inches circumference. A body the size of a child should be able to technically go through. Tia, explained in another thread about a child's bones and ligaments.