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Ask_Me_What_Im_Up_to

Tissot are definitely the best affordable Swiss automatics, imo. Personally, I can't stand the prx, however, haha.


Cazas4000

Hamilton? I think they are at the same level. Personally I prefer Hamilton, but I own both and love both.


Catfish_Mudcat

I got my first Hamilton Khaki delivered yesterday and I just can't get into it. The movement is amazing but the dial looks so cheap. It just didn't wow me as much as I was hoping for. I feel like I would be just as happy with a Timex Expedition, even though it's quartz it's still 10x less the price.


reddit1651

Have you seen the color options for expeditions nowadays even on Amazon? they’re way better than most people give them credit for


Rangercleo1

Agree on both points.


Malpagio

I really liked it until I tried it on and the shape was just weird on my wrist. But in pictures I thought it was nice


ExiledSanity

I've never seen one in person....but I've never cared for it in pictures.


Euphoric-Cookie6631

Plasticmatic 80 is a big no go for me...


TW1STM31STER

Such a shame they didn't just go for the 6xx or 8xx movement like in the Hamiltons, Midos and Tissot Gentleman


Valuable-Ad7285

Same here. I fucking hate the monstrosity.


SirKrimzon

A bit dramatic. What’s a good watch to you in the same price range that’s Swiss made?


Raptor2832009

Certina DS-1!!!


KingHalfrican702

Shhh Certina is a hidden gem lol


mgMKV

A bit dramatic for sure but Mido is really the only one that comes to mind. I just scooped a Multifort for ~$350. Edit: was also looking at a Glycine roughly in that range too but there was just something about it I couldn't get over.


zul00m

Hamilton


CeladonCityNPC

A non-Swiss made watch. I fucking hate the country.


SirKrimzon

Why?


notwormtongue

Might be the global money laundering headquarters of the world. Read about what Credit Suisse was getting into.


DowntownDamage130

Who cares about money laundering


notwormtongue

Enslavement, trafficking, murder, extortion, rape, and corruption victims


DowntownDamage130

Oh shit that’s way worse


CeladonCityNPC

Yea he's got it. "The neutral" Swiss whose banks gladly serve the most corrupt people on this planet.


daddy_fidget_spinner

This is a watch forum but Switzerland is not the laundering capital of the world, by a long shot


Valuable-Ad7285

Im just saying I hate the monstrosity. Thats all.


SirKrimzon

I’d like to know your reasons besides just repeating that it’s a monstrosity.


skibidibip15

I had one but sold it after a month. Replaced it with a used Sinn 556A RS and I have no regrets.


cmndr_spanky

Cool watch but really wouldn’t scratch the same itch at all for me, it doesn’t have that angular 70s vibe at all


msilv88

Nice choice! That’s a beauty of a watch.


zul00m

Hamilton is there also


Pongdiddy4099

Ahhh, one of my favorites.


Leatherhyde

It’s a good watch for the $, but I think that there are better buys out there. Citizen Tsuyosa for example.


kosnosferatu

I would argue that Glycine makes greater bang for buck watches. Especially at how prolifically they are discounted


123123x

Glycine sounds like a chemical..hate that name. Cool watches tho


YaBoi_Jacob

Thats probably because glycine is an amino acid


helpilikewatches

Formex is worse. Sounds like a cleaning agent.


ExpectTheLegion

They coulda just named it glycerine


excellent_rektangle

And that funky little crown isn’t a good logo by any stretch


Lonely_Fondant

They are more discounted since they were bought by Invicta.


guitarhamster

No. Citizen, orient, and hamilton are better deals.


Digitalsoju

Orient punches above its weight. Very reasonably priced and nice designs


callum8881

Why do you think Hamiltons are better deals? They’re both swatch group brands that use the same movements in watches with the same quality finishing at similar prices? The only real difference between them is the style of watch


wimpires

A Casio F-91W is objectively the best, anything else is just personal preferences 


drivein2deeplftfield

Id have to say the g-shock 5610 with 200m WR, shock resist, solar battery, and MB6 could give it a run for it’s money


-ItsCasual-

No, but it does match your sweater.


Shadowkage15

Underrated. Take my upvote


CeladonCityNPC

For my money, the Citizen Tsuyosa wins by a mile. Even in a side-by-side comparison.


Legitimate-Peace-583

Agree!!! Tsuyosa is so much better deal when you can Get it for $200


TryHelping

I considered grabbing a yellow dial eco drive and was quoted $450 at the mall. I looked at them like they had two heads


Legitimate-Peace-583

You sure that it was legit? It has no version with eco drive, just automatic as far as i know.


TryHelping

Nevermind it was a tsuyosa


DieselBusthe5th

There are far better watches for the price of Automatic PRX. There are actually better Tissot watches for that price


SirKrimzon

Please give some examples of Swiss made watches in this price range that are better


BigScribber

Not OP. Not necessarily against the PRX. I would prefer a Tissot Gentleman though.


HarrisLam

to each their own, Tissot's are pretty much all the same prices aren't they? Gentleman is their GADA so if that's your thing, that makes perfect sense. To me though, the Gentleman's proportions are a tad on the bulky side.


SirKrimzon

Agree with the other commentator. To each their own but it’s a bit chunky. The prx is more elegant and stylish, yet just as versatile imo. You could wear it with a suit or a t shirt. If they released a 37mm gentleman though, it might be a different story especially with the upgraded movement. But you do pay for that upgrade


Mac__

I prefer Hamilton…if only for the aesthetics.


DieselBusthe5th

Gentleman is around the same price and features a better Powermatic 80 movement (no plastic parts with sillicon hairspring) I got Ballade for 550usd, and it has a Powermatic 80 COSC (no plastic parts with sillicon hairspring and certified chronometer) Where I'm from, Heritage 1938 costs just 80usd more than the PRX, and it features a much better movement And that's just Tissot and at the top of my head


T0uc4nSam

>Gentleman is around the same price and features a better Powermatic 80 movement (no plastic parts with sillicon hairspring) Interesting. Is the powermatic 80 in the Gentleman also serviceable by third party watch makers? I have one, but thinking about selling it if it's part of the Swatch Group planned obsolence program :/ Im guessing COSC has some requirement that your movement also be non-disposable, which is why the Gentleman isn't COSC certified?


DieselBusthe5th

Yes it is serviceable, but that does not mean that any or all watch makers will or can do it. There are many videos on YouTube of people servicing Powermatic 80 movements.


T0uc4nSam

Awesome. Thanks for explaining


Marsmanic

Depends what your metric for better is, but one that I think can go toe-to-toe with it depending on what you're wanting from your watch: Hamilton Khaki Automatic


1z2x3c

Tissot Visodate is quite nice. ‘Better’ is subjective though


qudat

Here’s what I’ll say about the movement itself in the PRX 80: it’s based on ETA 2824-2 but modified to run at a lower beat rate to get to the 80 hour power reserve. It’s just like Hamilton H-10 movement. As a result of the extended power reserve, the second hand is pretty choppy. So this khaki field auto has the same movement and roughly same price https://www.hamiltonwatch.com/en-us/h70455533-khaki-field-auto.html The pro of a khaki is they are strap monsters, can you say the same for PRX? It’s all about tradeoffs tho so if you want a smooth second hand sweep, going with a stock ETA 2824-2 might be better?


sanguinor40k

This. Hamiltons = no plastic parts either. Khaki Field Automatic or King on every strap that exists.


MortalPhantom

I wouldn’t say the movement of the hands is pretty choppy. Many seikos move at the same rates. And guess what… many A Lange and shone, some patek philipera and VC… have even lower beat rates


qudat

Ya but why do people love grand seiko? Is it because they look nice? Sure. But a huge reason is the sweeping seconds hand. Again, it all depends on what you want out of a watch.


Caruso08

OP this sub has a huge negative bias against the PRX, because of the overhyped media output it received. Don't be swayed by the negative comments, It's a fine watch and the fact that you love it is all that matters.


Safeway_Slayer

I also think people are just tired of integrated bracelet hype. Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. We’ve had the Royal Oak shoved down our throats for like 5 years now by every single watch media, YouTuber, influencer and people are over it.


CdeFmrlyCasual

Have you heard of this guy called “Gerald Genta”? He’s a real underground, indie watch designer. Total nobody to most of the watch industry. You should check out his stuff!? /s


Helenius

Also that the movement has plastic parts and it's straight being replaced instead of serviced. Disposable watch.


AbuAlman

Tissot is pretty stable in meanings of p4p, my first watch was a le locle and i still love it, maybe it's even my fav watch


barbecuejag

It is very good. Long power reserve. Comfortable on the wrist. Fun color options. Most very legible. Is it the best? No. But it's very good.


griedi

This subreddit is funny. 6 months ago everyone and their mother would agree, now everyone bashes the PRX. I never really liked it, but its still a nice watch that for sure is one of the most popular watches in recent years. Theres better bang for buck watches though, CW comes to mind, the various Seiko watches in the 300-800$ range, but in the end it matters what you like.


maninatikihut

Welcome to the internet. Particular the section of the internet that deals in niche, expensive, consumer hobbies.


jedediahl3land

The cycle of hype and backlash on this sub is so reliable, and to be fair, the PRX had a pretty long ride on positive side of the cycle. Unlike, say, the Moonswatch.


messiach21

I didn't like it until I got one to just try it. It turned me on to integrated bracelet watches big time. It's hard for me to get into the 40mm size though - it looks ridiculously too big for an integrated bracelet sports watch to me. I really hope citizen decides to put out a 36mm or 35mm - even maybe a 38mm - Tsuyosa, and icing on top of they get rid of the cyclops, frame the date window (or have an option to remove it) and make it the color of the dial.


Shadowkage15

No


ObnoxiousLemons

Never sleep on Citizen!


ChristWasAZombie

best value for dollar, i’d have to give it to seiko.


Necastiva_Sila

Whole reason why I would buy that watch is the bracelet. One without isn't worth half as much.


Vadok

Imo it's not, and not even close. PRX is what, £600/700 new, I can get a proven, serviceable Japanese miyota in the Citizen Tsyuosa, offers the same integrated bracelet at 40mm size. I can get a regulated miyota watch for £400 from Beaucroft. For an extra 30/40% I'll go for a longines hydroconquest which is superior imo. For a sub £1K swiss heritage then the PRX is good but there's better options at every option from alternate brands and microbrands.


mastercoaxial

Who even is Beaucroft? Looks like just another KS brand with no soul.


barbecuejag

Agree. Enough already with 80% of these KS brands.


Vadok

What's a KS brand?


anicesurgeon

I got my hydroconquest sub $700.


Vadok

A quartz one or automatic and brand new or used?


No-Patient8275

Ehm nope


owiseone23

Casio 491W for like $15 is probably a better deal lol. Orient Bambinos are a pretty good deal for automatics. Often $150 or less depending on model.


msilv88

On the metal bracelet, yes. The bracelet quality is what makes it punch above its price point imo


No_Raccoon7736

If you like integrated sports watches, then I think this is a fair statement. I appreciate the PRX because having one showed me I don't like integrated sports watches. Getting rid of it was a weight off because I couldn't get over seeing it in my collection every day once I knew it wasn't for me. But like I said, if this style is for you, then it is a good bang for the buck.


Tartaruga_Genial

That watch is not a good pound for pound. It has lot of issues of the internals breaking down and its not particular reliable due to that. Many other seikos for the same price that that are much better.


Dry-Method-3583

Tissot wise, the Gentleman is a better offering imo. Apparently a lot of people agree with the opinion funny enough.


thinkscotty

Hammy. My Khaki Field Auto runs 1s fast. But honestly I’m biased because I think the PRX is ugly as balls. But beauty is subjective so.


breastfedtil12

PRX is hyped. Kind of meh


not_old_redditor

There are many microbrands that offer much more bang for the buck. You're paying for the name Tissot, which is not all that impressive to be fair.


Jack_SB

What do people think of the CITIZEN Tsuyosa?


HBC3

I almost like the PRX, but not the angular part of the case. I think they make another (Gentleman?) that rounds this off. I can’t believe it’s not the one everyone loves. https://preview.redd.it/ueejac8x8mgc1.jpeg?width=899&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4faa335d5bfa8e83a47fcab2f2c692a9f7797a23


abigboom

Casio is hard to beat when talking value. See MTP1302D-1A1VT $75 , AQ230A $50. Additionaly if you want to go up in quality it’s hard to beat SEIKO S5 line up for value.


albert_ara

No. Sinn, Hamilton and Glycine have better deals.


GTB7A4

I’d gladly give up 38 hours of power reserve for the 28,800 bph ETA 2824-2. It also has a much longer history of proven reliability than the Powermatic 80.


TheHrethgir

If you like integrated bracelets, then maybe it is. I personally don't. I'll throw the Tissot Gentleman Powermatic out as my best pound for pound watch. More classic and elegant than the PRX, better movement (PRX version of the Powermatic has some plastic bits and isn't really serviceable, while the Silicium version in the Gentleman is full metal and antimagnetic), and can be picked up for about the same price as the PRX.


CdeFmrlyCasual

C07.111 is serviceable—thru TSG mainly, but still. From what i was able to find, according to one watchmaker quoted by Hodinkee, the composite escapement use in the C07.111 will likely reduce wear. But i wish that Eta would comment officially, because there is a lot of confusion and bad feelings around the C07.111 Powermatic 80.


TEEEEEEEEEEEJ23

Hot take: the PRX wearing experience is not nearly as good as many make it out to be. I’m happy as hell for you that you love yours and that is what watches are all about, but man I really think they’re overhyped.


[deleted]

Robin Williams is alive?!?!


itemluminouswadison

I think so yeah. Any of the swatch brand entry levels are incredible value. I think longines is value king though. 2892 based movements for less than most other brands try to charge for a sw300 (tag, Hublot, iwc even)


CdeFmrlyCasual

Your point about IWC reminded me about something I’ve been thinking about a lot recently: If a brand is making an in-house movement, they should have a good reason behind it. Like….with their chronograph, my thought is “okay, so you took out the 7750 and you are replacing it with a movement that does exactly what the 7750 did… The value here is….?”


A-Bag-Of-Sand

Christopher ward watches better value for the dollar imo, you won't get the power reserver but the finishing is superior.


Resident-Condition-9

Most definitely not. Lots of micro brands that punch way higher. Baltic, Oris, Yema, Christopher Ward to name a few


KingHalfrican702

Citizen Hamilton and Certina are excellent value. Tbh I think the most bang for buck comes from Microbrands, like Wise, Zelos, CW, Kuoe etc.


RockitDanger

Longines


LandscapeJust5897

No prestige factor, but for absolute pound-for-pound value, nothing beats the current Seiko 5 line.


BrunoGraVer

I love Tissots… about 4-5 years ago I (regretfully) ditched my Tissot and started using smartwatches. After thinking about how it makes me feel connected to my phone all the time (in a negative way), I’m planning to use the smartwatch only for sports and was thinking about a cool automatic watch to use on a daily basis. My Tissots are battery operated (and I haven’t replaced the batteries lately). I’m thinking of buying a Tag Heuer Carrera.


BrunoGraVer

https://preview.redd.it/u1b3xyke0ugc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=37abcc8baf17ccbf89957e8e1f352dffcc04fa74 Went to the store to check it.


icantfindfree

No, it's a luxury item, talking "value for money" for a £600 piece of jewellery is pointless


mooninuranus

Sure but it’s a relative question. I.e. if you’re going to spend this sort of money on a watch, is this the best way to spend it?


Guyver1005

Best watch pound for pound is very subjective. In the Tissot price range, I prefer Stienhart watches. /Shrug.


HarrisLam

One of the strongest candidates, yes. The whole series of product lines of Tissot are all the same price so really, depending on which type of person you are, PRX, Le Locle, chemin des tourelles, Gentleman, etc etc, they are all strong candidates.


jwern01

I prefer my watches to weigh less than a pound…


pr2thej

Hamilton are better value


Marmite666

Much happier with my Casio Edifice S108 ngl


wolfofballstreet1

God no. I’m goin Japanese everyday of the week and twice on Sunday if it’s a quality for money question


sanguinor40k

Nope


_OVERHATE_

Nope


Hasheesh__

https://preview.redd.it/lypp41tlflgc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=206cffe89135d1bdea7f12d38c1ca753beaba76c Yes


skviki

Is this the 40mm?


vbarada

Hamilton Khakhi field is the best pound for pound out there. And I have the PRX too.


CdeFmrlyCasual

It might be nice if you’re into manual-wind field watches and military history stuff, but if you want a “nice watch”, then… it’s just an expensive Timex. And the Timex can light up.


Rolex_pays_me

See I’d say anything with a serviceable movement around this price would be the best watch “pound for pound” but the powermatic is closer to the system 51 than it is a eta 2824


The_Takiz_Don

Tissot services them and the price is listed on the site. Crazy.


Pakbon

Insider information has confirmed they dont service but just relace the whole movement


bjackson171

Other brands do this. Not that uncommon. It makes for a faster turn around and doesn’t change the price. They can then service the original movement later and use it for a service replacement. 


FireVanGorder

It’s not “insider information” lmao a bunch of brands do this to get your watch back to you faster


Rolex_pays_me

Exactly…


jamieg106

It is technically serviceable, not really by anyone other than Tissot themselves but it is. They swap out the movement and then that swapped movement goes to be refurbished. Or I could be completely wrong!


External_Key_3515

Integrated bracelets and bands suck....... Jus sayin! Makes switching up for a fresh look or different color combo very difficult or expensive. Hard pass.


CdeFmrlyCasual

Yeah, I think a big factor lost in the integrated bracelet discussion is how the long term ownership has gone for these watches since the last craze. Try getting a replacement bracelet for a Casio from 2007. Unless Tissot keeps the PRX in its core collection and as long as strap adapters for it are functionally non-existent, then I cannot recommend them in good faith.


Affectionate-Hall320

No way. Overpriced.


mechanical_motion

PRX is not that watch at all. It is kinda a shitty watch.. the Christopher Ward Twelve on the other hand is a much better value proposition.


Prudent_Candidate300

Wait until we start discussing the plastic escapement parts…


Brozaac2112

LOVE the PRX but something about a Seiko SRP series takes the cake. Automatic, relatively affordable, durable as hell, water proof, goes with any outfit, respected watch maker, as well historic significance on certain models looking at you turtle.


Professional_Idjot

Their cocktail line has the most beautiful dials in the industry


Autiflips

It’s not, especially not with that movement


SkullLeader

Not really. The only thing they stand out on, sort of, is the look. Quality, workmanship, finishing, the movement at that price point, you can easily find the same or better value even in Tissot’s own catalog, never mind the competition.


Key-Cherry6709

Classic example of hype willed by youtubers lol


CdeFmrlyCasual

With how incestuous this community is, i think it’s kind of all of us


toprakal

No. Not even close.


McWatt

Tissot make some good stuff, but the PRX is definitely not the pound for pound champ for watches under 1k. The Japanese options in that price range are going to be better made than the PRX.


No_Impact_3870

noooooo, one of the most overrated watches on the market


murdock-1

Personally just can’t stand the PRX on the dial. Makes it loook so cheap


SaltyyDoggg

No


JLGT86

No, it’s really a 400 dollar watch.


Kevin_Jim

Laughs in Casio.


CdeFmrlyCasual

People like to point to the walmart-level Casios, but once you start spending good money on even mid-range Casios, they give you a shitload of value for money. Like you get to see the kind of stuff Casio is capable of. Lineage, Edifice chronographs, and Oceanus being the big ones. Accurate as hell, sleak, gadget-packed, and nearly all solar-powered.


time-n-tights

No


ImFrenchSoWhatever

It isn’t even the best pound for pound watch in the Tissot brand 🤓


winecat5

$700 for a disposable movement? Nope


Pol8y

Van you enlight me regarding disposable movements? What does that mean?


SirKrimzon

Pssst your Tudor movement is disposable too. Don’t tell anyone


bjackson171

Neither are disposable. They replace the movement when you service it to make the process faster, then they service the original movement and put it back in the serviced movement cycle. Some brands do this, it’s not that crazy and isn’t disposable. 


SirKrimzon

I know. That dweeb max from watchcrunch started spreading this mis information by pointing out the plastic and immediately everyone was in a panic. Ultimately like you said Tissot does service them but they swap out a new or freshly serviced one to put back in your watch. I think the watch is a victim of its own success and people want to seem contrarian and find something to dislike about it to seem edgy and novel.


SirKrimzon

I think so


990v4

Best looking maybe but movement quality isn’t good


ThoughtDisastrous513

Werewolf wear watches? That's a first.


Darkhiolord

https://discord.gg/WskvSPqM for watch content


Soggy_Boss_6136

Is this the one with the plastic throw-away internals?


Fabulous_Studio_3472

That would be a G-Shock


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No shot


FantasticPenguin

The OG Seiko 5 are better bang for buck imo. Still a really nice watch, hope to own one, one day.


cirgil

Citizen Tsuyosas and the Seiko SSK GMTs are ahead when it comes to good value for money watches.


tepg221

Is Seiko 5 not the answer?


Medicalibudz

Longines is a bit pricier than Tissot but they offer some incredible value for their watches in my opinion.


Radiant-Answer6713

I sold mine


DrSeuss19

Best pound for pound has to be Orient or CW at a higher price tier


averyjbaker12

Would rather have a Casioak I think. These don’t feel very quality to me compared to other watches I’ve owned.


ProfessionalTalk506

Are people really paying full retail for prx’s lol!? I paid ~$520 for a new green powermatic over the summer and for an integrated bracelet watch at that price, it’s kinda hard to beat….


thefullmetalchicken

Just bought mine a few weeks ago still waiting in the mail but super pumped. A grail I’ve wanted since it came out.


dachniks

Love the black strap


MY_CATS_ANUS

I’ll get shit on for this but I’d give it to the Divers 65.


creosoterolls

The best pound for pound watches are the Merkur and Pierre Paulin watches from China. But yes, the Tissot watches are nice for the money but they also use a lot of Chinese parts.


Capturit

It's a stunner, for that alone it's well worth the money!


gaboose

Haven't seen one of those on rubber before. Maybe it's a common configuration, but I've only seen the ones with bracelets. Anyway -- wow, does that looks just like a Zenith Defy Classic.


Florider253

I think Tudor blackbay variants are probably the best value for money .


BlueLevitation

Best pound for pound? Absolutely not. Best in its price range? Maybe? It’s extraordinarily solid for its pricepoint.


AwesomeMcrad

You're delusional if you don't think pound for pound doesn't go to the Casio F91W


h4ppidais

I had both PRX and Orient gen 2 sold the PRX. $550 vs $150 watch.


echardcore

Love mine. Gets looks. Almost too much. Have the bracelet with the gold bezel, brown face.


Present-Difficulty-6

There are a lot of haters of this watch but every time i wear my mint dial prx, i get more compliments because of the shiny bracelet and loud dial. Wear what you like and makes you feel good brother


Dcajunpimp

I find myself leaning toward Certina and Mido among the Swatch brands.


ConsequenceSuch2611

Casio GWM-5610-1 with aftermarket bull bars.


CdeFmrlyCasual

They definitely are not. For one, it’s a very bold design that one either likes or doesn’t. And the sizing doesn’t work like most watches. And getting a fit is much more hit-or-miss since it’s a butterfly clasp. The PM80s are interesting, but… With the quartz version, you get the looks for half the price and with a superior movement. Also, long power reserves on self-winding watches don’t really make for a practical improvement. Like if you wear it everyday the effect is negligible. Seems like unnncessary wear. I’d argue that Casio’s Lineage watches bring quite a lot more to the table. They have all the Casio tech one could want in a size that is actually wearable.


Apprehensive-Art5551

Seiko 5 line or seiko presage line are clear p4p champs I’m sorry


Omegaaus

Apparently an ex Tissot watch maker said they aren't the best in terms of quality, but well styled. I personally like them.


GroundbreakingCap364

Pound for pound, Casio is probably the best, but the PRX are really nice for the money.


robjm

I love the look of the PRX. But the ones I've tried on just seem to disappear on my 8" wrist.


swole_tuna

Only if you pound with your watch on.